Nightcap - Nightcap Summer Sessions LIVE from Houston - Hour 2: Rick Ross, Terrell Owens join

Episode Date: August 28, 2024

Join Shannon Sharpe & Chad "Ochocinco" Johnson on their Nightcap Summer Sessions: LIVE from Houston. Unc & Ocho are joined by Rick Ross, Houston Texans legend Andre Johnson, NFL Hall of Famer ...Terrell Owens, Texans head coach DeMeco Ryans, and Ocho's fiancé Sharelle Rosado.05:58 - Sex or Next24:05 - Rick Ross46:30 - Terrell Owens(Timestamps may vary based on advertisements.)#Volume #ClubSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:05:29 Hey, I tell you what, Ochoa, if I were to pass away, they can't code the casket. Can't even go have a sunroof on it. Y'all better cream me, baby. That's a good one. Don't let nobody see me like this. Don't let them see me like this, Libby.
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Starting point is 00:06:39 around the venue Ro wants to help couples have great sex and sometimes that means using Ro's sparks. But other times that means asking your partner the right questions, which is exactly what we'll be doing, playing a little game called Sex or Next. So ladies, Ocho and I want to know, what do you do to turn your man on? So if you have some sexy ideas, step up to the mic, and we'll grade those ideas.
Starting point is 00:07:04 We'll say sex or next. So ladies, line up at the mic, down there, a single file line. And don't be shy. And give us some of your best ideas. Don't be shy. Alright, ladies, come on with it. Come on now, don't be scared now. Is anybody up there?
Starting point is 00:07:20 God dang, ladies! They boozy. Y'all don't do nothing. Ah, man. That's why I can't move to Houston. You see? Uh-huh. They bougie.
Starting point is 00:07:31 They bougie? They bougie. Come on. Come on down here. There's the mic right there. Come on. She coming. Just one idea.
Starting point is 00:07:39 A little idea. Anything I can take home? No, I ain't talking about her. Come on, come on down here. What's your name? Claudia. Okay, come on, Claudia. Oh, Lord have mercy.
Starting point is 00:07:58 Oh, that's a good one, because you know what comes with lobster? Condoms. What you think, Ocho? Next or next? Next. Next. Next.
Starting point is 00:08:11 All right, come on. Come on, ladies. I know y'all do something. Don't be shy. Why y'all so shy? And we don't judge. There's no judging here. Ain't nobody even here.
Starting point is 00:08:21 I mean, there you go. Come on. I know she gonna come with it. I know she got it. Ooh. Ooh. I know she gonna come with it. I know she got it. Woo! Woo! Come on. I already know.
Starting point is 00:08:29 I already know. I already know. Okay, so what works for me in my house? Right, right, right. I get out the shower, nothing on, but some cheekless panties. Okay. Okay. Dim the lights, put on my little sexy playlist, and he'sless panties. Okay. Okay. Dim the lights,
Starting point is 00:08:46 put on my little sexy playlist, and he's ready for me. Okay. She said she get out, she get out of the shower. Right. Shower up. Right, right.
Starting point is 00:08:58 Panties, I mean the panties on me, she basically just the real. Cheekless, cheekless. Yeah, yeah, just the real. Just the real. So it's something real nice to look at? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:09:06 Yeah, yeah, yeah. I like that. I like that. I like that. I like that. Six. Six. Six.
Starting point is 00:09:12 Yeah, I like that. I like that. I like that. You get a band? Give a band. I need my bottle. Come on. All right, all right, all right.
Starting point is 00:09:20 Okay. What's up? Uh-oh. Uh-oh. Uh-oh. We got another one coming tonight. We got uh-oh, we got another one coming today. We got another one coming, we got another one coming. Excuse me, okay.
Starting point is 00:09:33 Okay, okay, man, what's your name? My name is Sherelle Rosado. Okay. Hold on. But we beefing. That ain't got nothing to do with what she about to say. Y'all going to be beefing tomorrow, but she about to tell this. Ma'am, go ahead.
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Starting point is 00:10:13 It was for the show. Well, she ain't running, she ain't joking. Now, okay, go ahead, Rhea, tell us more. So, I went to the sex store, and I bought some butt plugs, and- Woo! Time out. Who you plugging? I went to the sex store and I bought some butt plugs. Time out. Who you plugging?
Starting point is 00:10:29 Who she plugging? She ain't plugging me. Ocho! Hold on. Shade, close your ears. Hold on. Who she plugging? Ocho, let her tell the story. But she acting like a plumber.
Starting point is 00:10:41 Ocho. Thank you. Go ahead, ma'am. And, you know, to get his attention, I, you know, did a little thing, put the butt plug in, and went and started twerking in front of him. Okay, okay, okay.
Starting point is 00:10:56 Okay, I remember that. I remember that. I remember that. That was about two years ago. So, I'm going to do it again tonight. What you going to do? Six, six, six, six, six. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:11:22 She brought her bag. She brought her bag with her. Because she know it was going down. Sir. What? She's not touching me. Okay. We got another one.
Starting point is 00:11:35 We got one more. Okay, up top. Hold on. Up top. Up top. Okay, ma'am. If you don't mind, your name? First of all, I don't know how I'm supposed to top that.
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Starting point is 00:12:00 building. I think about textures and stuff. So for me, I think about getting a stuff. So for me, I think about getting a nice warm cup of tea. And that transition between warm and body temperature and enveloping something in that experience
Starting point is 00:12:20 between the warm tea and... I need a little bit more details. We grown up here. You had to be 21 to get in. So come on with it. Come on now. I need you to color within the lines. No, we need to go outside the lines.
Starting point is 00:12:39 So, you know... You know, tea is a certain temperature. You know, you got to have the bag to extract the flavor. Right, right. But you got to have the flavor and then you have the hotness and then you transition and then you maybe have an ice cold cup of water. Next. Next. Next. Damn, really?
Starting point is 00:13:11 Okay. Next, ma'am. I'm sorry. Okay. We got one down here tomorrow. Ma'am? Step up to the mic. My name is Laricia Renee.
Starting point is 00:13:23 Hold on, hold on, hold on. What's your name again? Larissa Renee. Okay. Okay. I'm sorry. I don't know if this is a little ratchet. No, no.
Starting point is 00:13:31 I'm ratchet. I'm ratchet. Go ahead. Go ahead. I'm ratchet. I'm ratchet too. Because me and my little bae back there, I'm just saying, you know, we like to get nasty. Right, right, right.
Starting point is 00:13:42 And like it gets real spontaneous, you know. Come on, man. So whenever we at, whenever or however he want it, if he raise my hand up, you know, I know to bend over for him a little bit. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You know, and it's anywhere and everywhere. Like, if he say, hey, give me some hair right now, in the back of y'all.
Starting point is 00:14:00 Well, say it, say it. Say it right now. Where you at? Who that? Say it. Put the light on here. Put the light on. Where you at? Who you at? Say it. Put the light on here. Put the light on here. You got to get nasty for your man, I'm just saying.
Starting point is 00:14:13 That's up. That man pay all them bills, let me tell you something. Whenever and however he wanted. Wherever. Well. Anywhere. That's up. Come here, come on. That's up, man. I'm going to give you the good news. Come on, daddy. I. Where? Anywhere. Come here, come on.
Starting point is 00:14:25 That's her man. I'm gonna give you the, hey. Come on, Daddy. I'm about to give this nigga a rim band myself. Yeah. She say, whenever, however, wherever. Yeah, he know. That's that Maxwell song, whenever, wherever, however.
Starting point is 00:14:42 Yeah, Okay. God! Boy, you got a winner. Boy, you the real deal, boy. Hey, you on Instagrams? Yes, sir. Hey, send me a DM. How you got her like that?
Starting point is 00:14:54 I got you. Hey, bro. I'm from Houston, man. Huh? Look at that. It's an H-Town thing, man. That right? Hey.
Starting point is 00:15:00 That right here? Hey, watch out. Right there, that's a winner for the ding-a-ling dinner. Boy, you a good one. You got, don't you let her go. Oh, okay. No, he didn't let you go. Why, dang it.
Starting point is 00:15:17 Ocho, you heard what she said? I ain't never heard that before. Ocho. I ain't never heard that before. She said if he raise her hand, he can get it. He said, she said wherever. When. However.
Starting point is 00:15:29 How. Where. On site. I ain't never heard that. On site. I ain't never heard that. I ain't never heard that. What's up, twin?
Starting point is 00:15:40 Before you go, I grew up on a farm. I was in 4-H. I went to the county fair, and I done been to the Serengeti. I ain't never heard no shit like that. God almighty, no. Sis, you got to give us something good to top that now. Oh, okay, we up top, we up top.
Starting point is 00:15:59 Oh, they got two. It's on? Yeah. Hey, y'all. Hey, how you doing? What's your name, ma'am? My name's Treasure. That's your people with you? Yeah, that's my man. Okay, come'all. Hey, how you doing? What's your name, ma'am? My name's Treasure. That's your people with you?
Starting point is 00:16:07 Yeah, that's my man. Okay, come on with it then. Okay, so me, personally, I love, I'm more of a touchy-feely, so I'll start off with a massage, you know. Turn him around on his back, get the oil, rub the lotion down, and then I'll turn him around. You know, we naked, of course. Okay, right. Turn him around, start at the chest, go to the neck, we naked, of course. Okay, right. Turn him around. Start at the chest.
Starting point is 00:16:27 Go to the neck, you know. Get him feeling good. Okay. And then start giving him a head off rip. So start going stupid. And then while I'm doing that, put a little arch. And then start twerking so he can see it. You feel me? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:16:41 And it's up from there. I got a visual myself. I'm just thinking about it. Come on, it's dangerous. Hey, hey, I'm going to be honest. I just got that last night. So now look, now look, now look. My name is Deontay, by the way.
Starting point is 00:16:55 OK, Deontay. So you can know. So she gave it from a female's perspective. I'm going to give something that I had to, like, counteract with after she did all that, because I wasn't going to get treated like that. You had me fucked up. I'm just joking.
Starting point is 00:17:04 OK. Now, Ocho, I know you're the type of person like me that to get treated like that. You got me fucked up. Okay. Now Ocho, I know you're the type of person like me that this might work for you. I got these grip socks on, right? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:17:11 Listen, listen. I got the grip socks on right now. Where you get them from? Oh, listen. I got kids. I got boys. They like to go
Starting point is 00:17:20 to these little jump worlds so they make you buy socks. You stole the people's socks? No, no. I bought these. I bought these. Okay. They was like $ make you buy the socks. You stole the people's socks? No, no, I bought these. I bought these. Okay. They was like 399 up there. You can get them anytime you want.
Starting point is 00:17:30 Okay, okay. How they work? They work, let me tell you like this. Now after she just did what she did, I ain't gonna lie, she handled her business. Right. Like you said, they got us fucked up. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:17:39 They got us fucked up, Ocho. So what I did was you take her, put her on the edge of the bed. Right. Edge of the bed. I got straight grip now at the bottom of the bed. I'm on the floor. You can't feel me.
Starting point is 00:17:47 You on the floor. You on the floor. You locked in. You locked in. I'm locked in. Yeah. I'm holding at the bottom, you know, ass hanging off the bed.
Starting point is 00:17:55 Yeah, just a little bit. Just a little bit. Just enough. Just a little bit, yeah. Just enough. Now, Ocho, this might be more your thing, more than Unk thing, but we here. Yeah. So once you got her up under there.
Starting point is 00:18:06 Yes, sir. Legs sticking up, right? Whoa. Take that big toe, put it in your mouth. Right, right. Put it in your mouth. Right. Put it in there.
Starting point is 00:18:15 Right. I'm a real one. I'm going to keep it real with y'all. I'm with you. I'm with you. I'm with you. Yeah. So you take that big toe.
Starting point is 00:18:23 Yeah. Put it in the mouth. Right. You don't do it like a, like a thumb. Keep it there for a second, caress it. At the same time, by the time you down there in this dust, it depends on how tall you is and how long you is at the same time. Right, right, right.
Starting point is 00:18:37 And you just start moving, man. By the time you get to moving, I guarantee it. It's waterworks, every time. I like that. I'm with you. I'm back. I'm back, I'm back. I'm back, I'm back. You better go. He been talking about waterworks.
Starting point is 00:18:49 I'm about to get in your ass. The waterworks coming every time. You missed the part about sucking the toes. Yeah, yeah, I had to do something. I got a call, I got an important call to entertain. But go ahead, I'm back for the waterworks. But listen, once that toe in there and you moving already, you penetrating in that toe,
Starting point is 00:19:05 give it about a good 30 seconds if you're doing it right. By the time you come out, you'll be soaking wet on the stomach, I'm telling you now. I like that. Hey, you got Instagrams? Yes, I do, sir. Send me the instructions.
Starting point is 00:19:16 Oh, I got you. Hey. I got you. I don't need instructions, send me the socks. Oh, hey, hey, your aunt, aunt got to do you one better. You give me the ball, I give you the socks, send me the socks. Oh, hey! Aja, unk, unk, I do you one better. You give me the bottle, I eat the socks, what's up? Okay, last but not least, lady, come on step to the mic. Oh, oh man, hey, that was funny.
Starting point is 00:19:40 What's your name, ma'am? My name is Aja. Aja. Aja, yeah. Hey, Aja, what up, twin? Hey, Aja, what up, twin? Okay, Aja, come on. Come on with it now. Hey, the last two been unbelievable. The you last, don't be... I got you. You got me? Okay.
Starting point is 00:19:54 I got you. So... So... Hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on now. Hold on. So when I'm in a mood, I'm gonna drink me some wine already, Taylor on, hold on. Hold on now, hold on. So when I'm in a mood, I'm going to drink me some wine already. Taylor Port, you know. You need only one.
Starting point is 00:20:10 Oh, you want that Taylor Port? Taylor Port. You want that Taylor Port? You want that Taylor Port? What's that? That's that wine, that Taylor Port. Okay. I don't drink, I'm sorry.
Starting point is 00:20:20 Okay. So I need about one and a half glasses of that. Okay. I'm from Tampa, so we like slow down music. Okay. So after my glass of wine, I start talking nasty to him. Ooh. Wait, what you be saying?
Starting point is 00:20:32 What you be saying? I just, I'm direct, so I just be like, I want to suck your dick. That's it. Straight up. Go ahead. Go ahead. Go ahead. And the thing,
Starting point is 00:20:51 the thing, if you really enjoying second dick, you don't have to hot tub. You don't have to do that. It's going to be dripping already. Okay. Hold on. Your mouth be watering like you about to put a hot tub? Yes. It's watering. So, I like slow down music because I'm from Tampa. be water like you might need to put on a cocktail? Yes. Water is wanted.
Starting point is 00:21:05 So I like slow down music, because I'm from Tampa. So I like slow down music. He know to turn it on. He's sitting on the couch. I pull it out, put it in my mouth already. You say he was sitting on the couch? He's sitting on the couch. He's sitting on the couch.
Starting point is 00:21:24 Like this? He's sitting on the couch. I's sitting on the couch. Like this? Like this? He's sitting on the couch. Okay. I take it out. Yeah. I put it in my mouth. It's already dripping. Dripping down the balls to the thighs.
Starting point is 00:21:34 Vroom. Everything. Panties to the side. I jump right on it. Right there. On the couch. On the spot. On the couch.
Starting point is 00:21:44 On the couch. You ain't lay down no towel. No, nothing. Raw. Raw. I like that. Raw. Raw. I like that.
Starting point is 00:21:56 Just saying. I like that. And then. Oh, it's more? And then, yeah. What are you doing? And then. No, I like it from the back. So, he'll it from the back, so he'll take me over the couch.
Starting point is 00:22:07 He'll take it over the couch. Right. And finish it there. Okay. Over the couch. So you don't want to come over on our couch. I'm just saying. Right, right.
Starting point is 00:22:19 I don't want to do that. Where he at? He here? He here? Where he at? I still see you. Where he at, here? Where he at? I stole a C-Roll! Get back here! That man beat you in spelling, ain't he going home to this? Ah, baby!
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Starting point is 00:28:54 All right, we got a very special, we got a very special guest. Very, very special guest. We weren't sure he was going to be able to make it, but he said, you know what? Big homie, I got you. Let's give it up for the biggest boss you ever saw, Mr. Rick Ross. Ross! My dog, man. Man, me and Ross, we got a song together. We got a little album coming out, a little EP.
Starting point is 00:29:21 I hope y'all ain't doing it tonight. You're right. He probably on them lemon pepper. All right, Pete, all the real niggas worldwide. Salute. Salute. Real shit. I ride for my niggas, dog. I ride for my niggas, dog. I ride for my niggas.
Starting point is 00:29:50 I slide for my niggas, dog. I ride for my niggas. Stay scheming. Niggas trying to get at me. I ride for my niggas tryna get at me Go High ride for my niggas Stanky man Niggas tryna get at me
Starting point is 00:30:15 Go High ride for my niggas Damn Life so short Damn I don't wanna go to court Damn Got a budget for the lawyer too Damn Life so short. Damn. I don't want to go to court. Damn.
Starting point is 00:30:28 Got a budget for the lawyer too. Damn. What's happening? What's happening? What's happening? What's happening? What's happening? What they do? Why should let me hold something?
Starting point is 00:30:44 Why should, you know? Let me hold something, boy. Shit, you know. Let me hold something. Boy, you can't. Yes. I'm proud of y'all, man. Y'all make some noise for these two right here, man. Boy, we appreciate you stopping by. Know you got a business schedule.
Starting point is 00:30:59 I follow you. I see what you got going on. Business, man, it's always business. And for you to take time out, to Grace, Ocho, and I, much respect. It's too easy. Tell us about the book. You got a book called The Perfect Day to Balls Up.
Starting point is 00:31:17 What made you write a book and the title? It was only right. Every day is a perfect opportunity to go to that next level, straight up and down. Perfect day to write a book, another collaboration, New York Times bestseller with my brother, Neil Belkin, you know what I mean? And it was just about taking it to that next level and make it clear as possible for that next generation of entrepreneurs, just so they know, yo, this is realistic, extremely
Starting point is 00:31:44 realistic. I had you on the podcast. You were one of my first guests on Club Shea Shea. And you were telling the story how you was always a hustler, that you would, hey, for a little extra money, you was washing cars. But for a little extra money, hey, I'm going to rearrange your cassettes. I'm going to put them banks in there in alphabetical orders. I'm going to do all this stuff. You always had that entrepreneur
Starting point is 00:32:07 skill. You always had the ability the foresight to see like you know what? The homie's going to like this. That's what it's all about. Take it to that next level. Whatever you got going on whoever your business partners are, surprise
Starting point is 00:32:24 them. Take them to that next level. You see, I got my brand up here. I want to try yours as well, but that's what it's all about. I got my homie Jeremy, Slippery Soap. He in here tonight. So it's just all about always sharing that platform with my team.
Starting point is 00:32:39 And that's what we do. We all see the progress. We all grow. You look back a decade later, God damn. Listen, you gotta think but we go way back, bro. We go way back. Way back.
Starting point is 00:32:53 So I'm trying to think, when I think about artists today, how important do you think it is for them to build their brand the way you have outside of the music industry? But the thing is, you had the success to be able to do it through music which made the transition that much easier right so how do you answer that question it's one thing about building a brand but you got to be good at the first part that is your profession
Starting point is 00:33:18 right right what we all got to accept and be realistic about it. It's like going to the league. Everybody won't make it to the Hall of Fame. You being an artist, everybody may not know how to go out and really become that product or sell products. It's a lot of huge artists that can sell records, but the young kids don't want to dress like
Starting point is 00:33:40 them, so they can't sell clothes. They can't sell shoes. Nigga won't even wear their socks you know i'm saying so everybody can't do everything but what you do want to make clear is the opportunities that are out there so if you're a young athlete you know i mean it's the nil the game changing right now but it's all about making sure you understand you are a business you the ceo of your life and every day you wake up you run it just like you would want to run your business though i'm how do you stay motivated bro after all these years you got everything
Starting point is 00:34:19 everything and i follow you on Instagrams you constantly though constantly always doing something new what motivates you after you have accomplished so much I'm gonna keep it real it ain't it ain't about a dollar sign it ain't about a dollar sign even though I feel like Rose deserved whatever it is he want and ain't nothing wrong with you feeling like that. Because you got to go get it though. You understand? Yeah, you got to go get it. I'm a huge dreamer. I dream of things that I never
Starting point is 00:34:54 you know, never fathom. But guess what? There's so much more to go. Whoever imagining your mid-forties or wherever you at, you under dig? Damn, we really just beginning. The paper really just coming. The experience really just kicking in.
Starting point is 00:35:12 Now it's time to apply all that and let's go to that next level. So I'm really, I'm still motivated. I really am. Obviously, when you get to this level, there was some failures. There was some non-successes. That's just a non-success at the time. Not many, though. How did, like, you getting knocked down, getting back up and says, okay, this didn't work, but the next thing's going to work.
Starting point is 00:35:40 Because I know how to accept certain things. I said this on my story this morning. Just because you may not have achieved or accomplished what you set out to accomplish, it doesn't necessarily mean you failed. You know what I mean? Sometimes you just got to redirect shit, reapply certain things, and then the shit can pop off for you. So you're going to take L's in the game. Anybody who think they're going to go shoot straight to the mountaintop and not take no losses, you got it fucked up because that's going to happen.
Starting point is 00:36:10 And believe it or not, we talking realistically in life, our biggest challenges have yet to come. So you better have your mind right. You did? Man, Ross. Y'all had the summer going crazy yeah we did what what i thought all y'all was like cool i'm gonna be honest on some rap shit it was no conspiracies
Starting point is 00:36:37 rosé name was said rosé i'm gonna jump off the porch that's what i do when they call rosé yeah yeah yeah you you i'm gonna jump off the porch. That's what I do. When they call Rosé, he coming. I'm going to jump off the porch and I'm going to have some fun. And that's what I did. I had some fun. How do you feel about the current state of hip hop right now? You know, I just feel like it's a lot of dope shit being made. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:37:05 We'll see where it go. As far as I ain't talking no controversy type shit. I'm just talking music. You know what I mean? It's some dope shit being made. We know the era I came up in. We know the ones who inspired me to always give them they flowers.
Starting point is 00:37:23 And there's some youngsters that's really hustling right now. I want to see them take it to that next level though. Because being successful making music is one thing, but really marketing yourself and making yourself a fucking iconic, worldwide, global giant. Making yourself a resource because that's what a lot of these youngsters
Starting point is 00:37:42 have potential to do. That's what I want to see them do. Did you always have that ambition? Like, yes, music is my entry, but I'm going, I see myself as more than a musician. I see myself as an entrepreneur.
Starting point is 00:37:57 I see myself as owning businesses outside of the music because, Ross, everybody knows you as Rosé, but your biggest entities ain't got nothing to do with music. Because, Ross, everybody knows you as Rosé, but your biggest entities ain't got nothing to do with music. Facts. That's without a doubt. Yeah, shout out to that lemon pepper, man.
Starting point is 00:38:15 You know what I'm saying? You know what I'm saying? But I always had a certain level of ambition. I did. Even when I couldn't dress good, I knew once my paper was right, I'm going to be fly. I'm going to be a fly fat nigga.
Starting point is 00:38:28 You know what I'm saying? That was just always in me. And that's just, that's how I got to go. You know what I'm saying? Every day I wake up, man, let's apply this shit. Let's apply this shit. You know what I mean? You want to be a boss? Make sure you're the best boss there is. Have
Starting point is 00:38:43 some understanding. Make sure you communicate. Every week, let's reiterate what the priorities are. You can't give nobody no room to, no, no, no, let's stay focused. This is how we got to do it, and that's what it is. So I knew once I had the opportunity, as soon as they let me in the motherfucking door, I'm going to go crazy. How do you determine who you respond to and who you don't? Because obviously, me, I'm in this space now and you get people taking pot shots
Starting point is 00:39:10 at you. But how does Raw stay like, okay, I'll respond to this. I'm going to let that stuff go. How do you determine what you're going to do? Is it something to gain for you? Somebody wake up and hate on Shea Shea, hate on Ocho. I mean, let's sit back. Let's sit back.
Starting point is 00:39:25 Okay. Let's sit back because not responding is a response when you a boss. Oh. You already said Ocho? Yeah, because I ain't responding. I ain't responding to real. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. Shit.
Starting point is 00:39:40 You know what I'm saying? That motherfucker might wake you up early in the morning to text you some bullshit. Hey, man. Man, get on that goddamn story and don't even try. That is a response. You know what I'm saying? So it's like, yo, to get a response from me, it has to be something really for me to gain. If you just a mark who woke up and want to say the biggest boss name because you like my sneakers or something homie
Starting point is 00:40:05 that's it man calm down tell us about bumble yeah bumble rum bumble rum this is the fastest moving bumble in the game make sure y'all check this out man what made you decide to get into the spirit game really it was just me being in the club. It only makes sense. If I'm in the club every night or if I'm in the club three, four times a week, it only makes sense. I'm enjoying myself. I'm having something to drink. And I find myself in New York City one night. I got a big record.
Starting point is 00:40:39 DJ Clue turned me on to Luke Belair. I woke up the next morning and said, what was that in that black bottle? I need some more of that. And that was just the beginning of me really. I met Brett Barish and really just, I just started repping everywhere I went. I wanted it with me.
Starting point is 00:40:56 And that was just the beginning of the relationship. Of all the songs you've made, you collab with some of the greatest artists of our generation. Do you have a favorite song that you've created? I can tell you my favorite. My favorite verse, Devil in a Blue Dress. Devil in a Blue Dress.
Starting point is 00:41:17 And my favorite song is Amsterdam. But I want to hear from the horse. Those are timeless. Those are timeless. I'm going to tell you, the reason why for me it's so hard to choose a favorite verse or a favorite record is because at certain times I'm in certain vibes. I may wake up one morning and I'm turnt all the way up and I want to hear John or it might be something that's just running through my mind or it might be one of those mornings I wake up and it's, you know, damn, it's a Santorini grease type of vibe. You know what I mean? So it's just it depends on what the vibe is.
Starting point is 00:41:57 You know, it's like getting dressed. Some days you want your shit. You know what I mean? Some days it's a little... I interviewed Khaled, and I talked to Khaled, and he said when he was coming up with this song that you, Wayne, Hov... And I forget who else was on it.
Starting point is 00:42:16 I think... Who else was on it? Yeah. He said he didn't let anybody else hear anybody else's voice. So you just... You did your thing, Weezy did voice so you just you did your thing we did his thing ho did his thing facts when you jump on a beat ross do you hear a beat okay obviously let you play they let you hear it as you're listening are you formulate like i'm gonna go
Starting point is 00:42:39 here i'm gonna go there soon as soon as soon as i I hear it, I already know what needs to be done. Now it's just how am I going to do it and execute it, present it. Because you know who on it. You know it, Ross. I didn't. Oh, that's right. You didn't know. I didn't know.
Starting point is 00:42:57 But if you know, let's say somebody asked you to do a feature. Right. And so you know who's going to be on it. Like, okay, they tell you, okay, Ross, we got you. We got X. We got Z. You know you got to go hard know who's going to be on it. Like, okay, they tell you, okay, Ross, we got you, we got X, we got Z. You know you got to go hard because they going hard
Starting point is 00:43:08 because boss on it. Right, right, right. They going, they hard. Yeah. So it most definitely, when you hear whoever the collaborator is or if they already on the record,
Starting point is 00:43:21 it most definitely affects how you approach certain vibes. You know what I mean? But when, I like when Cal is in the record. it most definitely affects how you approach certain vibes. You know what I mean? But I like when Khaled's in the record. Don't tell nobody. It's cool. I did my verse. He may have had it back in the next hour.
Starting point is 00:43:34 What? Yeah. Yeah, that's how we work. Yeah. That's how we work. About you. Yeah. Hey, you know, you heard me, huh?
Starting point is 00:43:42 You ain't know me at all? Me ain't know. we got a song. I like to hear his voice. That's a fact. No. No, that's a fact. We got a song. He really came to the studio, pulled up to the studio, and he really laid down his boss.
Starting point is 00:43:59 That's real. Boss, you should have charged him $10,000 to keep him at your studio. Now, when it drop and we go quadruple platinum, don't be trying to, oh, I believed in you. No, no, no. Yeah, I'm like that on the mic, man. Nah. Still, look, everybody know you do great work. My favorite song from you have and always will be Every Day I'm Hustling. Ooh.
Starting point is 00:44:26 Man, that means so much. That's my anthem. It means so much still to this day to me. I come out on the stage wherever I'm at. I just left overseas halfway across the world
Starting point is 00:44:37 that every day I'm hustling. Come on, that touch and resonate with all the real. It don't matter where you from, what color you are. You got to go get it. Because these streets and life, this shit don't care nothing about you.
Starting point is 00:44:51 Yeah. You grew up, and obviously you have close to people. And I think the hardest thing is is that when you have someone that's been around you when you weren't Rosé, when you wasn't a boss,
Starting point is 00:45:01 how do you determine who gets to remain in Rose's life if they're not adding anything to Rose's life? With me, it ain't always about what you adding to me. You know what I mean? Because everybody may not necessarily bring nothing to the table, but were you genuine when it wasn't nothing on the table? Were you there when it wasn't nothing on the table? You know what I mean? Yeah, so everybody may not bring nothing on the table. Were you there when it wasn't nothing on the table?
Starting point is 00:45:25 You know what I mean? Yeah, so everybody may not bring nothing to the table. But that's not how we going to judge your value. We going to judge the genuine love. Because it could be a motherfucker that really care about you more than anybody and ain't got shit to give you. You don't cut them off for nothing.
Starting point is 00:45:53 With everything that you've done, with everything that you've accomplished, what could possibly be next that you haven't touched already? What's next? I got a long list, motherfucker. You know
Starting point is 00:46:08 what I'm saying? And I'm just keeping it real. The list, it's long and it's going to stay long. Let's stay motivated. Let's stay busy. Let's keep moving. Let's keep hustling. You ain't going to win all the time, but let's keep going. Because like
Starting point is 00:46:24 I said, Rosé rose i jumped out here i didn't sign to no huge you know i ain't have no big team of producers that no we did this shit one record at a time one album at a time one play at a time and we done ran laps around motherfuckers that's what's up straight up music when is Rose going back in the studio when can we expect the next album? I'm back in the studio right now and you gonna have a new album from the boss in December, baby Yeah, yeah, we be hell we've been in the studio bitch Yeah here Is there anybody that you want to tell us that's on the album when you want to keep that low key for the time being?
Starting point is 00:47:04 Oh, I'm gonna give it all to tell us that's on the album or you want to keep that low key for the time being? Ocho. I'm going to give it all to you at the end of the year. You know what I mean? I'm most definitely, we cooking up. You know what I'm saying? Shout out to my homies out in Houston. Big Tony, Sauce Walker. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:47:15 We just did a couple records in the last few days. So I'm working with all the rooms. I ran out of questions. Rose, bro, for you to be before, for you to come back here, you just got back overseas and when we reached out
Starting point is 00:47:34 to you, you said, I'm not going to be able to make the Miami show, but I'll definitely catch you guys in Houston. Bro, that means the world to us
Starting point is 00:47:40 because you didn't have to do it. You had the perfect, I mean, it wasn't even an excuse. Bro, I'm going to be out of the the country but i will come back just for you guys and for this man to show up here in houston today after coming back overseas give him a round of applause yeah just go to show you the love that this man has and you know i talked to him i don't bother i don't bother him much.
Starting point is 00:48:05 I know he's on his thing, but hey, sometimes he'll hit me up and say, hey, big bro, I just love what you're doing. Keep up the great work. Hey, stay focused. He's like, mofo's trying to get you off your place, but stay focused, bro. I appreciate that.
Starting point is 00:48:19 That means a lot. Y'all know who it is. The biggest boss you ever saw, Ricky Rosé. Don't forget, we dropping in December. Fuck y'all thought. Nigga, we out here for sale. Where we at tonight? Wherever you at.
Starting point is 00:48:40 Hold on. I'm finna hit these streets with Ross. Here it is. Rick Ross, The Perfect Day to Balls Up, New York Times bestseller. Go out and get your copy. Here's the autograph. Here's how the autograph.
Starting point is 00:48:56 That's exclusive. The autograph. Bamboo. Rum. Woo! Wingstop. If you haven't seen it, next year the car show,
Starting point is 00:49:11 the car show's always in June, right? The car show's always June. Make sure you check out the Promised Land. Unbelievable. Unbelievable. Come ride the horses with me. Rick Ross, ladies and gentlemen. Thank you, bro.
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Starting point is 00:55:17 I gotta use the bathroom. Boy, you got kidneys like an old person. I gotta pee pee. Go ahead old person. I got a pee-pee. Go ahead. All right. I'm sorry. Lord have mercy.
Starting point is 00:55:31 You see what I go through with this? He ain't got no mic on. You good? You good? I'm filling in for my homie, Chad. Okay, that's what's up. What's up, everybody? What's up, Houston? What's good? You good? That's it? I'm filling in for my homie Chad. Okay, that's what's up. What's up, everybody? What's up, Houston? What's good?
Starting point is 00:55:50 Did you fly in for this, or are you here now? I'm here. I'm local. My daughter's at Prairie View. Okay. She's going to... Bebe! Who's home? Yeah, so my daughter, she's going into her junior year. So I'm here just to support her her last couple of years.
Starting point is 00:56:10 So, yeah. Bro, you've been in L.A. for two years. I'm still in L.A. Okay. I'm still in L.A. I wouldn't say back and forth. But, yeah, I'm back and forth. Right.
Starting point is 00:56:19 So what is T.O. doing now? Man, I'm just being a dad, man. My son, he was with the Niners. He broke his hand, so he's not out of the woods. He still has a chance. So he's healing up right now. Right. So, yeah, so I've just been working out, training with him prior to pro day
Starting point is 00:56:37 and draft and all that good stuff. So he got signed with the Niners. He was doing really well. Right. Playing really better than some of the draft picks that they had. So broke his hand like a couple of weeks ago, so now he just has to heal up and then possibly be brought back on to the practice squad possibly.
Starting point is 00:56:52 Maybe around week two, three, or what have you. What's it like? You played the game at an extremely high level. Obviously, we want the best for our kids, but we don't necessarily push them in a direction that we want them to go because you had your career. You lived your life. Now I want my son to live here. What is it like to see your son follow in your footsteps, go to the team that drafted you and is doing well? Man, it was it's eerily similar in a lot of ways.
Starting point is 00:57:21 He started late. He didn't start until like maybe his 11th grade year in high school. Went to Bishop O'Dowd in California, Northern California. And just like my daughter, I mean, obviously they know who I am as they got older, but I never pressured or pushed them into the sports that they're playing now, even with my son. He wanted to be a basketball player. He realized like that's not his calling and so he didn't catch on to the sport too late and so i wanted to be a resource and be available to him if he wanted to pursue football as a career and so obviously like i said he started out at juco in a juco consta costa yeah uh in california then he went to fau for a couple of years lane kiffin left there
Starting point is 00:58:03 and went to old miss willie taggart came, and they didn't really give him an opportunity. He was a PWO, which is Preferred Walk-On. So he left there and went to Missouri State. So COVID year, his last two or three years, he played at Missouri State. And so played considerably well, not as a starter, but his numbers, like I said, and with his physical attributes attributes he was able to really capture the attention of some of the scouts that were there so because he got a late start he's been a couple of different places he really hasn't had a time had an opportunity to develop
Starting point is 00:58:34 assistant consistency and that's what you need to get good you need consistency you need stable need stability experience and that's what he lacks. And I'm very transparent with my son. Even with him being an undrafted free agent, I told him, like, look, it looks good on paper. Like, yo, you went to the team that I got drafted to. Again, you may not make it with the Niners because, like I said, it's a numbers game. Like I said, they may have other positions
Starting point is 00:59:04 that they may need to fill or what have you. I tell him look it would be great if you continue your career where I started but at the end of the day realistically it may not happen but when you go out there you practice hard you do all the little necessary things to make yourself visible to let them know that you have a skill set aside from the experience that he lacked with some of the draft picks. He's just as good as some of these draft picks. He just lacks the experience. But I told him, look,
Starting point is 00:59:31 it may be a numbers game to where they may not retain you, but you're auditioning for 31 other teams. Correct. Put good film out there. That's it. That's it. What's been circulating lately
Starting point is 00:59:43 is that Tyreek racing Noah Lyles. Tyreek, I don't know what much more attention that he needs. I mean, he already has enough attention as it is. But he's not beating Noah Lyles. I don't care what it is. What it is. We made a bet probably like three years ago. He said he would give me like 10 steps.
Starting point is 01:00:06 It was like nine yards, and we raced 100. 100 yards. He barely made up a yard. If I get a good start, I can beat Tyreek. And that's no cap. That's just me being realistic and understanding who I am and what my abilities are. You believe you got a great start. If you got a speed coach and says, oh we're gonna work with you for three months
Starting point is 01:00:28 and at the end oh no he ain't doing nothing but at the end of those three months and it says okay you race tyreek what you want to race him in a 40 a 60 100 what you want to race he has no chance in 100 because i'm i of those backers. You want to unwind. Yeah, I pick up at the end. 50 to 60, that's very competitive. But if I get a good start, he's going to have a problem. He's going to have a problem. But he's not beating Noah Lyles. That's not, no.
Starting point is 01:00:58 Why do you think he keeps challenging Noah Lyles? I don't know what much more attention that he needs. I don't know. But it's not possible. He's not about to beat an Olympic gold medalist. In nothing. Ocho think he can beat him in a 50.
Starting point is 01:01:14 Ocho ain't beating me in a 50. You slow. Ocho thinks Tyreek can beat Noah Lyles. No, he's not beating him in a 50. It's about a mindset. As football players, like I said, Tyreek is good football speed. Right. Hands down, he's one of the fastest in the NFL.
Starting point is 01:01:32 And there are some guys that will probably challenge him on that. Right. He didn't raise DK Metcalf. Mm-hmm. Why? If you're that fast, like, raise DK Metcalf. There's Marquise Goodwin, who was a track guy, Olympic guy. Why aren't you racing these guys? Xavier Worthy, who
Starting point is 01:01:48 just ran the fastest 40. Man, you're biting off a little bit more than you can chew when you're messing with Noah Lyles. Like, what is it? What is it you're trying to get out of this? But you're not beating Noah Lyles. You think he's beating Noah Lyles? I said in the 50 or 60, it'd be close. He's not. Because he get out so fast. And we've
Starting point is 01:02:04 been going at this for years. Yeah. You're not even faster than me. I would admit, you're quicker than me. No, you're not even a better receiver, B. Stop playing with me, boy. I'm Ocho, boy. It's me, boy.
Starting point is 01:02:17 I'm going to go sit on this couch with that. This is the yellow jacket couch over here. You know what I mean? Hey, homeboy. Hey, this the yellow jacket couch over here. Hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on. You buy yourself a... You know I got love for you.
Starting point is 01:02:35 I got a jacket, too. I made my own. So, look. Hey, it's 300... Listen, hold on, hold on. I had my own, too, before I got my real one. Nah, hold on. It's 300 of y'all.
Starting point is 01:02:45 It's only one of me, nigga. That's all good. That's good. Nah. Like you said. And I look better than you. Nah. Not happening.
Starting point is 01:02:53 Not happening. Not happening. Is there anything in your NFL career, if you could go back and do over, what would it be? What would I do over? What would you do over? Anything anything i'm talking about from college high school nfl 49ers cowboys philly anything is there anything to your wish you could do over if if i could do it all over all over again i would
Starting point is 01:03:19 probably try i would probably have a better approach to the game and the position that i played i never really had that affection and love for it until after my third year in the national football league when i saw i made that catch against green bay right and then like two years after that they let jerry go and they asked me did they put me in a position to fill his shoes if I would have taken the approach to really like train like guys are doing now um off-season training running routes things of that nature I honestly would have been a better receiver but all I did in the offseason would play basketball my my only one season that I I worked on the field with other like quarterbacks and things of that nature was when I got traded from San Francisco
Starting point is 01:04:05 to Philly Donovan McNabb wanted to come to Arizona Brian Westbrook I think Todd Pinkston and some other guys Reno Mahe we went out there for like a few days just to kind of get acclimated each other yeah get some chemistry or whatever that was the only time that I ever did any off the field workouts during my playing career. I've done more so outside of that, working with my son and other guys than I ever did in my entire career. So if I would have done that, there's no telling what type of receiver that I would have become. What is the biggest misconception that people have of T.O.? Everybody says that T.O. ruined this locker room. He ruined that locker room.
Starting point is 01:04:46 I know you. We have a very similar background. You and I have talked a lot over the years. Not on television. We talk a lot more off television than we do on television. What is the biggest misconception that people have of Terrell Owens? Probably that I'm based on media portrayal, how they've covered me throughout the course of my career. Having to talk to certain players in the locker room, they said that I was arrogant, I was cocky.
Starting point is 01:05:14 But I was a very confident individual. I realized, like I said, coming from a small school, I wasn't drafted first or second round. So I did the little necessary things to become great. I was very fortunate to be drafted third round 89th pick to the San Francisco 49ers. I played with arguably the greatest receiver of all time in Jerry Rice. I saw that day in and day out firsthand what it took to be great. And I had two instrumental receiver coaches, Larry Kirksey and George Stewart. Those two individuals, man, I'll do anything for. They pushed me.
Starting point is 01:05:51 They saw me as a kid from small town, Alexander City, Alabama, small school, University of Tennessee at Chattanooga. They saw the emergence, the development of who I was to come and who I was to be. They saw it on an everyday basis from day one in training camp. Larry Kirksey and George Stewart, they pushed me. Every day we used to, on our Friday trips, going on away trips, driving, getting to the airport, he constantly told me, he's like, you can be that one day.
Starting point is 01:06:19 He was pointing at Jerry Rice. He said, you can be just as good, if not better than him. And so I honestly started to believe that. I didn't have a lot of confidence as with a skill set early on, but every day I worked, I kept working and working and working. And I became something I honestly didn't have. You really didn't have the confidence to know that I had in my ability, but I just kept working, just kind of chipping away and chipping away. But a lot of people are thinking I'm arrogant. I think I'm cocky based on what the media has said, even what you said about the locker room.
Starting point is 01:06:49 But you've never heard not one player say anything that can back up what some of these media and these analysts have always said about me. You've not heard not one player that say that I was arrogant or cocky because it just isn't true. Do you wish you could have had a better relationship with some of your coaches because this is what i tell guys i was like all the time a lot of times when you're at one location some of these coaches are going to go other places and get jobs right and then you're going to want the situation like you know what i i was that on the staff with t.o man let's.O. in here. Maybe he can help the young guys. Even if he can't give us 1,500 yards and 100 catches, he can give us 50, 60 catches and maybe 700 yards.
Starting point is 01:07:34 But the experience that he can teach these young guys. Do you wish you could have had a better relationship with some of your coaches, be it head coaches or position coaches? The relationship was what it was. Outside of that, you have to be a smart individual
Starting point is 01:07:48 to understand what I brought to every team that I play on. Bro, I was a five-time All-Pro pretty much with every team that I played with.
Starting point is 01:07:56 Even playing on the team with Chad. Like, this is no knock-and-chat. Chad was with Carson Palmer for nine, ten years. I came in only
Starting point is 01:08:04 with just a month or so of preparation and like I said, I ended up out playing Chad, but we played well together. That's no knock at you, Chad. I'm just saying. Hold on, hold on, hold on. I'm just saying. This couch is made for yellow jackets.
Starting point is 01:08:18 You can't come over here. But it's really a testament of what I brought to the game. You were the three players that were the first team all pro with three different teams. Absolutely. You, Prime, and Ted Hendricks. Yeah. And so with that being said, the coaches or any of those guys could have vouched for me.
Starting point is 01:08:36 They didn't even have jobs. It was a reason why they weren't in those positions to really vouch for me. But at the end of the day, like I said, my stats, my everything, it spoke for itself. Again, like I said, I was nominated in 2016 for my first nomination for a Hall of Fame. I didn't get in. We already went through that. In 2017, they did it again. And obviously, like I said, I went off on a tangent. I just did my own thing. So I honestly don't say or feel that I could have or wish I would have done anything different because I was me. And I'm unapologetically me. I've never had any off the field issues, no run ins with the law.
Starting point is 01:09:15 And there's a lot of individuals out there that gets those opportunities. But for as it came, as it pertained to me and it became to me, I never got those opportunities. So I can't say i can't say i can't say that i would do anything different but i'm better than him nah let me stop let me stop it's so funny everybody always asks me like where i rank you where you should should you be in the hall of fame no i don't want to be there you don't want to be there no because then i'd be like everybody else i got my own jacket well we were we were in that same boat at one point i had my own i had my own jacket too yeah until i you know until i actually got you know it's funny a lot of y'all might not know
Starting point is 01:09:54 obviously you see teo and i going back and forth taking shots at each other but this is my brother man we've been we've been cool man for how many years we going now well when we got when we first when i acquired my agent, we had the same agent at one point in time, we didn't really know each other. Yeah. I was, like I said, I admired you from afar. You were doing that.
Starting point is 01:10:14 You know what I mean? Like I said, we were kind of trendsetters in our own right. We used to celebrate after touchdowns, things of that nature. And then they kind of banned it for a while. And then they saw that that's what was needed in the National Football League because the viewership, the ratings, everything went down. Shot out the roof. When they stopped it.
Starting point is 01:10:34 They stopped to celebrate. And they saw that it was needed for the game. Him, myself, I just tried to play and have a lot of fun with the game. And that's what I wish I could have done is really, I know a lot of people saw the highlights, this and that and the other. But for me, it was work. I really wanted to get into that end zone because I wouldn't be able to entertain if I didn't score a touchdown.
Starting point is 01:10:56 So that was my motivation. And then my mom, too, like when I was in high school, you know, she went to a high school game. I had a couple of catches. And then I asked her, I'm like, yo, did you see my catches? And she was like, well, what number were you? So that's what motivated me. When I got to the Niners, I was like, I knew that I was like with one of the most historic franchises in the century.
Starting point is 01:11:14 We played prime time. I'm like, and I play special teams, too. And I'm like, I play third and fourth receiver. So third down situation. You know how it is. When you're not playing right away, you make sure you make the most of those third down situation. So I got in on a third down situation. I'm in the slot. We're playing the Cincinnati Bengals. That was my first touchdown against Ashley Ambrose. I did that. I was living in Atlanta at the time. I did the bank bank head bounce.
Starting point is 01:11:39 I knew my mom was watching the game. So there was no way she was going to miss that dance. So that's how I started the whole celebration thing. Some fun days, some fun days. I think he's one of the top three receivers to ever play the game. The best, appreciate it, thank you so much. Three players have been playing team all pro with three different teams, and he's one of them.
Starting point is 01:12:02 Give it up. T.O., T.O. Lorde. T.O., T.O. All right, T.O. T.O. Hey, anytime you need to take a pee break, man, just let me know, man. I got you, boy. Hey, where we going tonight? Where we going tonight?
Starting point is 01:12:21 I'm going to go back here and talk to Rae. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. We're going to talk to her first. Don't get that bottle upside your head, T.O. Fooling with Ocho. That's my dog. That's my dog. We back on schedule?
Starting point is 01:12:37 Okay. The next guy that's coming to the stage is a Houston rap legend, Trey the Truth. Yeah. Yay. Mr. Rap legend, Trey the Truth. Yeah. Yeah. What's going on, big homie? What's good with you? I love that I don't fuck for free. What's going on, big homie? What's good with you? First off, what's up to the city? H-Town, what go down, man?
Starting point is 01:13:17 I can't come here without blessing y'all, man. Tay, come bring me some gifts for the homies. Yeah, bring some gifts. Well, don't nobody ever give me shit. What you got? Where the gifts at? Hold on. He moving slow looking. You about to get on him, huh?
Starting point is 01:13:29 Hey, where we going tonight? I need somebody. Ah, damn. A few places, man. Oh, shit. Nah, you getting, just getting. Yeah, yeah. One for you and one for you, man.
Starting point is 01:13:46 Simple Southern Hospitality, man. Y' you and one for you, man. Simple Southern hospitality, man. Y'all see my bump box? Bump box. Houston rap legend, Trey the Truth. Bro, I mean, Houston, y'all got some heavyweights here in the rap game.
Starting point is 01:14:04 You know, obviously you had the you know, the Ghetto Boys. You got Meg, yourself. Give me your mile Rushmore Houston rap legend. Man, that'll be a hard one. Oh, you got, oh, I forgot Bun, Pimp C. That'll be hard. I think, man, you know, crazy or not, I would give my mile Rushmore to all the ones we lost. Because, you know, we got DJ Skool.
Starting point is 01:14:27 Yep. We got Pimp C. We got Fat Pat. Big Hawk. Big Pokey. Yeah. Man, keep going. Big Mo.
Starting point is 01:14:37 I mean, it's a long list of them. So my mom Rushmore would be to all the homies we lost. Go ahead. What impact did Brother J. Prince have on your life? A lot. From before we actually became family. Yes, sir.
Starting point is 01:14:53 Just motivation because, you know, you hear the rumors when you come up in the rap game about how the South wouldn't respect it or accept it. And he was dedicated to letting people know where we were from. And, you know, just to watch everything he went through,
Starting point is 01:15:09 even from the trials and tribulations, from being harassed from the laws to everything and still overcoming it, it made me get out there and say I could do the same or better. So definitely played a part. Yes, sir. Man, you got some size on you, bro. You play ball coming up? No, not at all.
Starting point is 01:15:27 God! Why you two fidgeting? Go get on the hit. I handle my business when it's time. That's all I know. So the next generation of rappers that's coming up, Houston rappers, you got Meg, you got Big X, Mexican O.T. What are you most excited about?
Starting point is 01:15:46 Man, I'm excited for Houston in general. You know, the thing is, there's so many that's on the front lines right now that you may see, whether it be social media, videos, just, actually, if you look at Houston right now, some of the biggest artists
Starting point is 01:16:01 in the world. We got Beyonce. True. You got Trav. You do have Meg, man. Shit, Yolanda Adams from here. That's the biggest ever, you know? But I think it's no cap at the top of how high a lot of these artists can get. I'd be more excited for like the street and underground rappers to finally get their recognition as opposed to the ones that had their chance mainstream.
Starting point is 01:16:32 Your hometown team, the Houston Texans. Yeah. CJ Stroud led by the great rookie quarterback last year coming into his sophomore season. What are you most excited about your Houston Texans? I think everybody in the city. We're at a point in time we wasn't too excited about the Texans. But we're definitely excited. Now you got CJ, you got Diggs, you got my little bro Tank Dale.
Starting point is 01:16:55 I mean, everybody doing their thing. And I think it's like a reinvention of the city, the same way with the Rockets, with the same young as coming in, doing their thing. So we got a bright future coming. Listen, Houston awarded you with your own day, trade day for your work in the community. Now, how does it feel to be honored, man,
Starting point is 01:17:14 for the community programs and work you've done here? It's a blessing, man. Even though they gave me the day, and which had just passed, I always made it a day to give back. So now, I think in Houston, I got seven holidays. So literally, and I got two keys to the city. So I don't think there's really much more
Starting point is 01:17:33 I can get from the city. You know, it's about just giving back for me, man. Yeah, that's loud. Who has the best barbecue in Houston? That's a hard one. Somebody just asked me that backstage. Well, I need to know
Starting point is 01:17:46 because I'm here for another day. What you say? Triple J. I was telling them, shit, we got more live or soul food
Starting point is 01:17:56 anyway than just barbecue, too. Okay, that's a good one. What's the best soul food spot? What's the best soul food? Because I'm going tomorrow. They got them everywhere
Starting point is 01:18:02 from Mickey's to Esther's to all kinds of. What's the best one? Which one y'all say? Who she say? They saying Mickey's. Mickey's.
Starting point is 01:18:12 Mickey's, definitely. Mickey's. Okay, I guess we're going to have to try Mickey's. What time you want to go tomorrow? As I get out of work. Where you work at? In the studio. All right, guys, give it up for your favorite Houston rapper,
Starting point is 01:18:28 Trey The Truth. Who's going tonight? Look, I'm tripping. I'm up here, and I ain't even plugging my business. My new album just dropped Friday, man. Make sure y'all grab it. Crowd control. A-Style, you know I love y'all to death. Let's get it, man. Make sure y'all grab it. Crowd Control. Ace Time, you know I love y'all to death.
Starting point is 01:18:46 Let's get it, man. Alright. If you are part of the meet and greet ticket, you have your ticket wristband on. Okay. We're going to meet for the meet and greets. Ocho and I are going to meet you. Meet and greet. Right there by the repeater. That concludes our show for tonight.
Starting point is 01:19:02 Ocho, we got something special for you. Wait. Hold on. We finna go? Yeah. We finna go for real, you bullshitting? No, we finna go. The show over? Yeah. We just started. If you want a signed bottle of La Portia, meet us by the bacon wings for you with your
Starting point is 01:19:18 gold wristband after the show to receive your bottle. That's it. That's it. Oh, wait. You got to say bye to the people. I just told them goodnight. Come on, drop it. We got something special for Ocho. What?
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