Nightcap - Nightcap - Taylor Swift, Broncos-Dolphins Near History, and Cowboys-Cardinals

Episode Date: September 25, 2023

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I'm your favorite unk, Shannon Sharp. He's your favorite number 85, Chad Ochocinco Johnson. And let's jump right into it. The Dolphins dropped a 70 spot. They gave up 50 nugget and a 20 for free. 70 points, something I never thought I would see in an NFL game. And the Dolphins had an opportunity to kick a field goal, a 45, 46-yard field goal for the NFL record.

Should Miami have gone for the record? Consider the NFL is 103, 104 years of age. You would have scored. You know what? I think I would have. I think I would have. Hell yeah. I think Mike McDaniels, he made a statement.

Mike McDaniels made a statement. That offense made a statement for all the tour doubters, for all the offensive doubters on all the shenanigans they had to say about tour and had to say about the offense or that team in general. The statement was made today. Would they be able to keep up with this? And the funny thing about it is the fact that they put up a 70 ball. I'm going to call it a 70 ball.

They put up a 70 ball today. And you and I, not too long ago, we just talked about where you said how long, how recent or how often does it happen that you have a 300-yard passer and a 200-yard rusher. And not only does it. And they have a 150-yard receiver. Receiver. And not only did it happen, guess whose team it happened against?

Guess whose team? Let's ride, bronco what country nation bronco country yeah yeah no country for old men that's what it is the difference between you and i i've never been under the illusion that the broncos were super bowl contenders that the broncos were division winners see now if cincinnati were to get beat what is it what are the expectations for cincinnati oh are the expectations for Cincinnati? Oh, see, the expectations for Cincinnati are out that roof because that's what you've consistently shown for the past three years. I understand where you're going with that.

See, you see how I am? You see how free I'm going? I ain't got no expectations. Yes, sir. Yes, sir. Wait a minute. Wait a minute. You got to have expectations.

You know why you got to have expectations? Because you had someone that came in there with the Thor hammer coming down by the name of – what's the head coach's name again? Sean Payton. Sean Payton. He came in with Thor's hammer. This is how it's going to be? Nah, listen, Russell, that's not the way we're going to do things. You're going to do things my way.

You're not going to do it how you've done it in the past. And what happened? You can't – talk to me. Who's at fault? Because it showed when Russell Wilson fought. Who's at fault? Who are you going to do things my way. You're not going to do it how you've done it in the past. And what happens, you can't... Talk to me. Who's at fault? Because it showed when Russell Wilson fought. Who are you going to blame? Russell don't play defense. Here's the thing, Ocho. When you get 70s hung on you,

that's telling you your entire organization from top to bottom isn't good enough. The person that picks the talent, the people that coach the talent, the talent itself isn't good enough. because you got to think about it. Okay, you know, Russell got an opportunity to score too. It's not like one team get to score 70 and you can only

score 20. Russell could have gone out there and scored 70 also. I mean, wait a minute. Go ahead. The Broncos put up points now. 20! The Broncos put up points. 20! Man, you know, well, you know what, maybe not. The game has evolved and the game has changed. If you score 20 in our day, you should win the game.

Yeah, but they allowed you to play defense. You were hoping to get the, yeah, you could hope, okay, defense, you know, we scored 20. Defense is going to do this now with the spread open. It's basketball on grass. Right. 20 points, I mean, come on, man. But the thing is, look, we know what Miami possess.

See, I've never doubted Tua. The only concern should have been about Tua. Can he stay healthy? Yeah. That's the thing, Ochoa, because seemingly every time he gets sacked, he hurt his knee, he hurt his ankle, or he hits his head on the turf and then he has a concussion and he misses a game, or they bring him back in the game,

and it's lingering, and he misses more time. He's shown that when given an opportunity to stay healthy, protected in the pocket, he can distribute the football. Listen, his job is so easy. Yes! One of the things that people need to understand when it comes to coaches, when it comes to offensive coordinators, your job becomes extremely easy based on the personnel and the chess pieces you have to work with. Yes. What you have to work with. You know how they say

players get coaches fired? Yeah. These are the kind of players or a team assembled in this manner that get coaches pay raises. Yes. Well, it get coordinators get coordinators head coaching job. So the offensive coordinator

is now all of a sudden going to get a job. The receiver coach is going to become an offensive coordinator because you see the numbers that they're starting to put up.

It was kind of like when Green Bay had Brett Favre. Look at all the coaches, the Mariuchis, the Andy Reeds, the Mike Holmgrens, all those guys, even some of the defensive coordinators ended up getting jobs. Ray Lewis,

look at all the defensive people staff, from the Rex Ryan to the Mike Singletary to the who else? Jack Del Rio, Marvin Lewis, Mike Smith, Mike Nolan. Listen, it's just like Oprah. You get a job. You get a job.

You get a job. Everybody gets the opportunity. So this is a great thing. This is a great thing for the Dolphins. But where do the Broncos go from here? What do the Broncos do from here? I'm asking you. This is a great question.

I'm really not one that really asks the questions here, but what do the Broncos do from here? Well, they don't have any choice. This is the roster that you have. This is the coaches. This is the team that you have. The Penner and the Walton family has spent an enormous sum of money. Money is not the issue.

They purchased this team two years ago, and they gave Russell Wilson money when they didn't have to. They gave Sean Payton $18 to $20 million to turn this thing around. Well, damn it, turn it around. Now, it's going to take some time because this tells me

the talent that they have is not good enough, Ocho. You don't give up 70 points. You don't give up 70 points in an NFL game. 70 points is the most points since 1966. I was born in 68. I'm 55.

You weren't even thought of in 66. You were born in 78. I was born in 68. You were born in 78. As a matter of fact, you probably, hold on. I'm thinking you probably born in 80. I was born in 68. You were born in 78. As a matter of fact, you probably, hold on. I'm thinking you probably born in 80. I was born in 68, man, at Jackson Memorial Hospital at 308. Well, you can say whatever you want to say.

First of all, we both know you weren't born in those 68. So think about that. So that's what it tells me. Right, right. And see, me, I would have kicked the field goal because I do you a favor. See, when I beat you by a lot of points, Ocho, I tell you, your players aren't good enough. Your staff isn't good enough. See, if I kick a walk-off field goal, you actually think you had a chance.

If I beat you by a touchdown, you say, I got a chance. When I drop a 70-piece on you, that lets you know, now ownership is looking at everything from top to bottom. Top to bottom. Are they getting coached properly? Are they getting trained properly? Are they eating properly? Do we have the right personnel to do what's being asked of them?

There's a lot more questions than answers. The funny thing about it is what I want people to remember, that this is still the NFL. This is still the best of the best. This is still the 1% in the world that are playing at the highest level. Yes. The one thing I enjoy and love about the NFL is week to week, you can probably try to dictate games and who's going to win, but it's a toss up every weekend outside of maybe two or three

teams that will really dominate throughout an entire season and sometimes double up and lose, which happens to another team that we're going to get on later on in the show, but the Broncos are not as bad as what they displayed today. How about this, I'm going to give you a stat, Ochoa, and you tell me that. I'm going to give you a stat.

They're not that bad. In their last three road games with three different head coaches, they've been outscored 148 to 58. Three different head coaches. They've been outscored 148 to 58. Three different head coaches. Three road games. Now you tell me. Go. You know what? Sometimes

numbers don't always tell the whole story. Oh, the numbers tell the story. If I got 25 million in my bank account, you got zero dollars. What the numbers tell you? I got 25 in my bank account, you got $0. What the numbers tell you? I got $25 in my bank account, you got $0. So what's the number? That's a lot.

Exactly. That's a lot. 148. Hold on. Three different head coaches. Last three road games. Now you tell me. You know what?

I'm sitting here. I'm digging. I'm digging really hard. I know y'all. I'm sitting here. I'm digging. I'm digging. I know y'all. I know y'all. I'm looking for a positive in a way. I anticipate. I'm looking for one. I'm trying to find it. It's very difficult. I anticipated you was going to say, what's the problem?

So now I got to be able to counter your question. Ocho, 70 points in an NFL game? Let that sink in. You just told me this is the best of the best. This isn't Alabama against a D2 or an FCS or

a Division III team. This is supposed to be the top one percenters. It is, but remember, at times you have games like this. Maybe games like this where you don't get 70 hung on you, but you have 50 points, 55. Sometimes you have 60-point games. Thank you.

It doesn't happen. Think about it. It doesn't happen. Me, personally, I've never scored. It won't happen again for a while. That's your question. A game like this won't happen for a while. Have you ever scored in your career?

You played how many years you played? 12, 13? Yes, sir. Yes, sir. 12. How many times did y'all score 50 points in your 13-year career? I think 45 is the most we scored i've scored in my 14 years the most i've ever scored is 48 they got 70 and they had an opportunity

for a field goal to score the most points in the 103 104 year history of the nfl so don't tell me that happens often because in 140 years, there's only been a handful of times, maybe one hand, that a team has scored seven. So that doesn't happen often, don't you? Again, but that's why I said it doesn't happen. I said it doesn't happen that often. That's why you won't probably see that from the Broncos' defense.

Again, that's why I said it doesn't happen often because they are the best of the best. And what they're going to do is they're going to go back to the drawing board. They're going to make the necessary changes, see what went wrong, change what they need to do defensively. Because, again, how many times throughout a 17-game season are you facing the offense with Tyreek Hill? No, that doesn't happen.

How many times are you facing a team with the speed of Robbie Anderson, chosen Anderson, who comes in and goes for 69. They have a four by one team that can compete almost in the Olympics against any country outside of Jamaica and the USA. That's the kind of speed we're talking about and dealing with. Speed kills and

the Dolphins show that today. Now, the last three, okay, they had three road games. They've outscored 148 to 58. Only one of those games were the Dolphins. So the other two in which they've given up 78 points, what happened in that? Don't do me like that because you're stumping me like the swab right now. Because what I'm trying to tell you is that coaching is not where it needs to be.

The personnel is not where it needs to be. The personnel is not where it needs to be. Whoever put this team together and put the last couple of teams together is not good enough. And it's okay. Let me ask you a question, Ocho. How many times do you got to go to a restaurant, get horrible service, and the food doesn't taste good before you realize, you know what, I need to stop bringing my ass to this restaurant because it's not for me. So how many times do the Broncos got to keep trotting teams out there and getting blown out before

we realize this ain't what it needs to be? You make the necessary adjustments. The personnel, you have the best of the best on that defense. You have the best of the best. Understand. You You have the best of the best. You got pass or pass. Oh, he that boy.

He can only cover one. Look, they got some okay pieces, but they can't consistently get to the quarterback. And when you don't get to the quarterback, unless you're Deion Sanders, you're not going to hold up out there. The guys are too good. See, the reason why corner is so hard, Ocho, is because I'm asking you to do everything that a wide receiver does,

but I'm asking you to do it backwards. Backwards. Oh, yeah. You see, people, I know this is before your time, Ginger Rogers and Fred Astaire, the great couple. I remember Ginger Rogers and Fred Astaire. Okay, but think this out. She had the hardest job because she had to mimic every move he did backwards, and she had to do it in heels and a dress.

So her job was magnified. So I'm asking DBs to do everything a wide receiver does, but do it backwards without the knowledge. At least they choreographed it so she could rehearse. I can't rehearse what that receiver's going to do because I don't know. I might have an idea, but I don't know 100%. For me, when I looked at the Broncos and I watched a large chunk of this game until I just couldn't stomach it anymore,

they aren't talented enough to compete with the teams that they need to beat. It's really that simple. And I know the pinners. I know the Walton's. I've talked to them. This is unacceptable to them. When you're the Walmart family and you're one of the biggest empires, losing is not in their vocabulary.

Yeah, but this is a different ballgame. This is a different area that they're in. You might be able to win in business, but building a team and building a championship-caliber winning team is completely different. That might be territory that you're unfamiliar with. Let me ask you a question. It's going to take time.

You just said it's going to take time before we even started. Time? You just said that. Yeah, you said it's going to take time. Let me ask you a question. It's going to take time. You just said it's going to take time before we even started. Time? You just said that. Yeah, you said it's going to take time. Let me ask you a question. So what person going to give Ocho Cinco $18, $20 million and say, take your time and fix it? Well,

if you're giving Ocho $18, $20 million, you already know what you're getting when you pay me. You ain't going to have to wait for me. I'm going to deliver like Amazon. I tell you what, this is how I'm going to do it. I'm going to break it down for you. Your little smart car, it got some fame. And you pay the guy,

you pay a guy $5,000. He say, it's going to take some time. You say, how much time? I don't know, but it's going to take time. Nah, bro. It ain't going to work. When you say it like that, that's understandable. But listen, the way the NFL works in general,

there are 53 players on the roster. Right. There's only so much you can do. You really can't make any specific moves right now. We in week three. Oh, you know, you stuck. You stuck. Yeah, you stuck.

There's nobody to stop you. Exactly. There's no time. You can't hit the panic button. Because we got, what, 14 more games? You got 14 more games to go. Yeah, yeah. You go back to the drawing board, You got 14 more games to go. You go back to the drawing board, and you do what you got to do,

and you do what you do best. You do what you do best, and you got to work with what you got. When you play cards, I don't even gamble like that. But when you play poker and you get your hand, what you got to do with that hand? When you play spades, what you got to do with that hand? Looking at the Broncos' hand, I wish they could fold it. You ain't got to play it. Hey. Look at the Broncos hand. I wish they could fold it. You ain't got to play it.

Hey, they deal you them two cards. Sometimes they just go ahead and fold a hand. If I'm playing spades, if I ain't got no spades, I throw my card. I throw my hand in. I ain't playing. You got face cards. The name of the game is spades, and I ain't got any. Right.

Unfortunately, in this situation, you're absolutely correct. There's nobody on the street that can help the broncos out of this situation all the help that they're going to get is within that locker room and those coaches the coaches are gonna have you got to understand ocho you've never been beaten like that i've never been beaten like that. You got a 70 spot hung on you. Now, how does a coach come in front of you, stand on an apple crate or a cooler and look you in your face and say, hey guys, that was a tough one. We took that on the chin.

But hey, come in and bounce back. It's already hard when you lose by 10 or 14. Can you imagine losing by 50? You got beat by 50. But we in week three. We in week three. So there is time.

There's plenty of time. And don't do this. Don't do this to me either. Now, there's plenty of time to turn this ship around. There's plenty of time to turn this ship around. Ocho, think about it. A lot of times a team— The season ain't over.

We in week three now. No, no. But I'm just telling you. But a lot of times you go through the whole season, and when you accumulate, when you add up the points you scored versus the points that you give up, it might not be 70. They gave up 70 in a game with eight minutes to go. Theoretically, the Dolphins could have got a couple more touchdowns

if they had not taken their foot off the game. They could have. But listen, them dudes in that locker room, I guarantee you this. Not only are they playing for the Broncos organization, like you putting your film, your name is on the back of them jerseys. Your name is on the back of them jerseys.

So them boys definitely ain't finna lay down and ain't finna let nothing like that happen again. Because then you become what happens when it's time for you to move on from the Broncos and you were part of that team that got 70 hung on you. No, they're not going for that. They're not going for that because that's going to stay with you forever.

Oh, no, no, no, no. That's going to stay with you forever. Oh, you was part of that Broncos team or that Broncos defense? Yeah. That got 70 hung on them? Let me turn the film on. Can I use you? Can you help my team?

Ocho, you do. That's part of your resume. Ocho, you do realize that the losses linger longer than the wins. A loss hurts more than gratification and a win ever could. Because I won three Super Bowls after we lost to the Jags in the divisional round. And that loss still haunts me more than any satisfaction I got from a win. They got their work cut out for them to get over this. Because think about it. Ocho, what's your most lopsided loss?

Lopsided? Let's just say you lost 40- just say you lost 40 to 10 right right right oh they got beat by 50 yeah that's a madden score i see i see kid guy people score 70 in madden wait it's hard to score 70 mad unless you're playing on rookie mode now if you're playing on rookie mode you could put up 70 you playing on all Madden, you ain't putting up. What we saw today, this is for the people. I'm a gamer. I play Madden.

I'm a gamer. And I'm telling you now, if you are really good at the game, you might get 24 points, 24 points or 28 if you're playing against somebody that is equally as good as you. Putting up a 70 ball, yeah, maybe if you're five years old, two little kids playing, then you put up 70. Ain't nobody putting up no 70, no Madden game. So in other words, so what

Ocho just told you, ladies and gentlemen at home, that the Broncos was on rookie mode. That's what you just said. The Broncos was on rookie mode. They got a 70 piece put on them. Yeah, it was, for me, it was, I felt bad for one, Sean Payton, for Russell Wilson,

for Pat Sertain. I feel bad for the Broncos fans. My nephew out there. Listen, all them boys, but I'm telling you what's going to happen is they're going to turn around. They got plenty of time because you can't lay down. You can't lay down. You playing for... Well, I hope they get up because they laid down today. No, I need them to get up. I need them to get up now.

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Not what was on the field, but what was up in the stands watching travis kelsey taylor swift was in the box with travis kelsey's mom uh donna kelsey cheering us cheering up i don't know what they are they might be an item they might become an item but all i know is when he caught that touchdown she said let's effing go let's go go. I like it. So what was your thought? So you said, okay, Taylor Swift might come to the game. We know who she is. We know what she represents. Oh, you know who Taylor Swift is.

You know who that is, huh? Oh, I know who Taylor Swift is. But you didn't know who Selena Gomez was. I know who she is. I don't know. I didn't know. I can't name any Taylor Swift songs. That's not my genre of music. But I know who Taylor Swift is. I don't know. I didn't know. I can't name any Taylor Swift songs. That's not my genre of music.

But I know who Taylor Swift is. I mean, she got her own group. Like, Beyonce have the Beehive. Taylor Swift got the Swifties. For real? Yeah! Oh, I didn't know that. I know she's one of the biggest

artists of our generation. I know that much. I understand her impact. She had a con, she had a concert here in Cincinnati. What a line, the line. She took over, took over the whole city.

I think she, I think she's sold out. So far, like three, just three consecutive nights. That man, listen, yeah,

she's one of the biggest. And I'm thinking nobody can touch her like going. She's selling it everywhere. Well, I think if we're talking about as far as touring wide, I think Beyonce might be the only one that's able to touch her as far as, you know,

recognition globally and being able to track an audience regardless to where you go. I mean, she's up there like that. I've seen Beyonce in concert. Now, I've never seen Taylor Swift, but Beyonce, that thing crazy. That thing electric.

Listen, I already know she put on a show. And the funny thing about it, there are a few of the routines I can do by heart, but that's a whole other topic. That's a whole other topic. But listen, that is, you know, to be Travis Kelsey and have someone, have a megastar like that attend your game as opposed to, you know, the whole world thinking you guys are dangerous. Well, we know why she attended the game.

Because she's had the opportunity to go... She's Taylor Swift. There's 15, 16 games going on every week. She didn't show up. She showed up in Kansas City. She's sitting in a box next to his mom. We know why she did that.

She's like, yeah, let's effing go. That my boo, that my baby did that. Y'all saw it. You think she, listen, let me,

she got excited when you scored that touchdown. Yeah. How often do you think she watched football? I'm going to be honest, I don't, I don't,

I don't think she watched it that much. She got too much, she got too much other ish going on in her life. She sat down on the Sunday, she sat down in her life. She sat up there getting excited like she knew what was going on. That's commendable. That is commendable. And just to have someone of that magnitude and that type of status

to come watch you play? Man, shh. Man, my hat's off to Trav. Patrick Mahomes said, I felt pressure to throw him a touchdown considering... Because she was in attendance. Yeah, because everybody wanted him to... So let me ask you a question. Mm-hmm.

If you... When you were playing... When you were playing... Oh, yeah. I done had some coming. I done had some... Wesley, you had a celebrity come especially for you? Yeah, especially for me. Boy, I had them coming. Boy, Sugar had them coming now. I had some coming. Wesley, you had a celebrity coming? Especially for you? Hey, yeah, especially for me, boy. I had them coming, boy.

Sugar had them coming now. Don't do me like that. Yes, Lord. So, who is coming? Hold on, hold on, hold on. I got my baby behind me, so I got to be careful. I got to be careful. Look, we all got a past.

We all, she understood who you were. You heard Shannon, right? We all got a past. Don't do that. You, boy, I tell you what. They should who you were. You heard Shannon, right? We all got a pass. Don't do that. You boy, I tell you what, they should call you the bus driver because you sure drive over somebody. You quick. You heard Shannon, did you?

This young'un ran over me and backed up. Nah, you good. You good. You good. Yeah, but... Did any of your teammates, did you or any of your teammates ever have a famous girlfriend? You know what? Not really. Not really.

Not to that, not to her magnitude. No. Hell no! No, not to that magnitude. And it was almost impossible. Obviously, during my day, and I can be honest about this, the people that I dated were more so people that come from my background. Yeah.

That come from my background, come from where I come from and understood what it took me to get to this point. Most of us- We didn't have the reach, Ocho. We didn't have the reach these guys got now. Social media is a game changer. Right. And one of the things that I always did

is I stuck to those that understood me. Right. So if I didn't have it all, if I didn't have nothing to offer, I would still have a chance with you. Does that make sense? Yes, it does. Right. So if I didn't have it all, if I didn't have nothing to offer, I would still have a chance with you. Does that make sense? Yes, it does. Absolutely.

So once I did make it and once I did get a little money, I didn't veer off into a lane that I knew was well off my track. Right. Yeah. I'm trying to say it the right way without being rude or disrespectful.

Okay. Yes, I get it. I stayed in my financial lane. Right. I acted my wage, if that makes sense. So let me ask you this. Who do you think, let's just say for the sake of argument, and that's what we're doing. We're not arguing, but we're having a conversation here.

Yes, sir. Who would be the biggest sports power couple ever? We got Brady and Gisele, even though they're separated. DeBoer, excuse me. Russ and Ciara. You had Kim K and Chris Humphries. Why not Kim K and Reggie Bush? I was just going to go to

Reggie Bush, also Miles Austin. D. Wade, Gabby Union. J-Lo, A-Rod. Justin Verlander, Kate Upton. David Beckham, Posh Spice, Victoria Beckham, Tony Romo, Jessica Simpson, Carmelo Anthony, Lala. Lala Anthony. The biggest, you didn't even name the biggest. You didn't even name the biggest of the biggest.

I mean, LeBron James and Savannah. No, no, no. I mean, no, that's his wife. People don't look at Savannah as a celebrity like a Gisele, like a Jessica Simpson or Victoria. Okay, okay. I see where you're going with this.

Well, obviously, a landslide, it would be Gisele and Tom. Oh, you think over Gisele and Tom. Okay. It would be Gisele and Tom. Oh, you think over David Beckham and Victoria? Yeah, absolutely. I don't know.

Football. Football. Yeah. Tell me what you want, what you really, really want. Yeah, you're right. You're right. But still, we talk about Gisele Bundchen. Yes.

Miss earning $44 million a year. She was one of the original angels. One of the original Victoria, Vicky. The top earning angel at that. That's a different ballgame. And so, okay, let's just say

for the sake of argument, her and Victoria are a push. Now, where do you have David Beckham and Tom Brady? Because you know soccer is global. Football is really just North America. Right. But the funny thing, I'm glad you said that. Even though you said Tom Brady is still a global icon, even outside of the States, because of who he is. You think Tom Brady bigger than a global icon, even outside of the States because of who he is.

You think Tom Brady bigger than David Beckham? Not as big as... No, I didn't say that. Don't do that. Don't do that. You know, I didn't say that, especially not on the other side of the world, but Tom Brady is still known to that magnitude.

Oh, yeah, he's huge. That's why he's on this list. But not bigger than David Beckham. David Beckham is a little notch right above Tom because of what he's done for the game in Europe. Oh, but Tom is, I mean... That's top tier. That's a different world.

So who would be, of the people that I named, who would be two? I want to get your thoughts out there also. So comment. I want Twitter and IG to get involved in this. Who do they think? Conradin, Gisele, Russ and Sierra, Kim K, Chris

Humphrey, Reggie Bush, Miles Austin. Nobody's going to remember who he is. D-Wade, Gabby Union. Miles Austin was a phenomenal receiver for the Cowboys. Bro, outside if you played and lived in Dallas, nobody's going to know who Miles Austin was.

He was. He was a very good receiver. Very good receiver. I think for this argument, let's kind of keep it specific. Justin Verlander, Kate Upton, David Beckham, Victoria, Posh Spice, Tony Romo, Jessica Simpson, Melo, and Lala. Is there anyone with – I mean, way back when Terry Bradshaw

married JoJo Starbuck. I know that was way before you guys' time. Yeah, that was before my time. But I'm going to say I'm going to go David Beckham and Posh Spice, Victoria Beckham now. I would say they would be one. I would say Brady and G go david beckham and posh spice victoria beckham now i would say they would be one i would say brady and giselle would be two would be two and then i would put d wade and gabby and gabby yeah yeah and then you know russell and sierra are somewhat fresh as opposed

to the longevity that carmelo and lala had, right. So I would put them and then right up under them. Then I would go with Russ and Ciara. Okay. That's about right, right? Yeah. Does that make sense? Yeah. I think the thing is, I think like J-Lo and A-Rod,

because J-Lo is an international also. J-Lo is ginormous because not only does she does music, she's in the movies. Movies, yeah. So that's what, that kind of, whoa, man, the movies, you know, hey. Right. That's what, because, you know, Ciara sings. Music is a universal language. Everybody, you know, can speak it.

But the movies, I think, is where I would give J-Lo a nod. I think J-Lo is a little bigger, a little bigger layup than than Ciara. She is. She is within within her own right, within her own right. And it's so funny because when we talk about and try to to to compare these people touch different demographics totally. Yeah. Totally different demographics. But, I mean, they're both love in their own right, you know, with respect to both of them. Yeah, yeah. Me, after seeing what transpired, look, everybody on this list is a quadrillion times bigger than Shannon Sharp.

I feel bad a lot of times when I would, if I go out and I take somebody in because that's not, I don't really think they signed up for that. Now, some people like, okay, cool,

I'm cool with that. But every time, Ocho, I mean, sometimes even you want to go to the store and throw on some holey shorts and some little bobs

or some, you know, some stuff. I don't want to have to. That's what I look like anyway. I ain't putting on no clothes for nobody. I mean, I'm sure there are some women that says, you know what? Just one time I like to go out

without a face full of makeup, with lashes. I don't think so. You don't think so? You think they won't? They won't now. Let me tell you, at that level, at that level, at that level,

you always notice how when it comes to paparazzi, they always end up in the same place where the slam be at. Like the slam don't have their PR. Well, this is where we going to show up. They're going to drop that hand. Yeah. Every time.

If you don't want to be seen, oh, it's very easy not to be seen. Right. It's very easy not to be seen. All that stuff is obviously it's planned. The relationships that are together, it makes sense. Obviously, business comes first before pleasure. You understand that. One hand feeds the other based on what you have going on in life.

That's just the way it works at that level. Then when it has run its course, that is normally when things break off. Oh, you know what? We forgot. I'm just being honest. We forgot one. We forgot Kendall Jenner and Devin Booker. They dated for a minute?

Yeah, I think that was short-lived, if I'm not mistaken. They had a nice little run. They had a nice 24-month run. No, I don't think it was that long. And I don't even know because I don't keep up with that area and I don't even know because I don't I don't keep I don't keep up with that that area

that area of of dating and stuff like that but I don't think there wasn't enough longevity the people that we've just named that we talked about we talked about they had a nice run

yeah yeah yeah okay I don't know Chris Kim K and Chris Humphrey that thing was 72 days

was it 72? yeah man man I had band-aids on longer than that I don't know. Kim K and Chris Humphrey have no doubt. That thing was 72 days. Was it 72? Yeah, man. Man, I had Band-Aids on longer than that. I think. Man. Listen, I don't want to say nothing wrong, man. Listen, I like Kim K.

Me, I like Kim K because what she's been able to do, you can say whatever you want to say about her. You can say she don't look good or she don't do this and this and that. All I know is that she's been... The best business? Man, wait, speaking of, where we going with this? You throwing?

No, I ain't doing nothing. There you go, bro. Bro, every time I give somebody kudos, bro, I ain't trying to holler at nobody, man. Okay, I'm just saying. Bro, I stay in my lane. I stay in my lane. Okay, okay, okay. I got you.

Okay, I'm just making a show. I'm just making a show. Let me know now. Let me know. Okay. Back in the day, now, me and Kory might have the butthead. I might have to see Kory and see what's up. Nah, man, I'm good over here, man.

I'm good. I'm just tripping. Okay, okay. Okay, no. Hold on. This is you because you've been doing all this talking. The Cowboys fought 28-16 to the Cardinals. The Arizona Cardinals beat the Dallas Cowboys.

You remember that? That bonded and that historic defense that you was just preaching about for the last two years. What happened? And don't forget me also talking about how well they played the first two games. And I said, again, week to week, this is the NFL. And you never know what's going to happen. What did I tell you?

Week in and week out. What did I tell you? I did say that. What did I tell you? Week in and week out. What did I tell you? I did say that. What did I tell you? I said, Ocho. I didn't say they were going to go undefeated. I just said they had a great defense. And they've showed that. It's on paper. Statistically, that's what it is. You do realize the Giants have won one

game. You realize the Jets have won one game. The Arizona Cardinals had won no games coming into this game i ask you a simple question as i ask america what happens when your defense doesn't get scooping scores or pick sixes what happens when your special teams doesn't get touchdowns or your defense pitch a shutout or get seven or eight sacks now i told you your offense i say look at your red that's often the game that has to pick up the slack and what did i tell you i told you your offense I said look at your Reds that's often the game that has to pick up the slack and what did I tell you

remember I told you Reds on offense you said but it was raining I said well it wasn't like the Giants were playing in the tent and then I said well okay what about the Jets you said well the Jets got a great defense okay now I want you to tell me one for five in the Reds on the day against Arizona

go what did Arizona have? That's not fair. That's not fair. The fair is when you go get candy apples, eat cotton candy, ride the merry-go-round. That would have fair. You understand that the opposing team, the Arizona Cardinals, them players, they get paid too.

You know that, huh? Do you realize? They get paid millions of dollars too to stop the opposing team. They were able to do that today. Do you know how long Joshua Dobbs has been in Arizona? You know how long Joshua Dobbs been playing the

quarterback position and hadn't had very many opportunities, but he's making the most of the one he has now. Say it again. So a guy that hadn't played very much in the NFL, hadn't had no opportunities, but just beat a historically great defense. Is that what you're telling me? American team, yes.

He had it. Listen, a squirrel get his nut every so often. Yeah. I don't want to take anything away from what the Arizona Cardinals did today, but are we, are we, are we praising them as if they're going to make a Superbowl run because they beat the Cowboys today?

No, we, I didn't, listen, I never said the Cowboys, we can go undefeated and, and do all this stuff. But what I've been trying to tell you,

everything, even, even kill. No, we can, and we got, we never know what's going to happen. No,

but what I was trying to explain to you and others, I say your offense, I say your defense is hiding infficiencies and inequities of your offense. You just – because 40-0. They had scored 70. The other team had 10. But you didn't realize that Dak Prescott had only counted for 14 points. 14 points.

Whoa, whoa, Shannon. You a hater. Nah, Shannon, just give it to you unfiltered. But also, remember what I said. Yes. At the beginning of seasons, a lot of these players don't play in the preseason. Yeah.

And I said, by the time, for offenses, it takes time to gel, get that time... Well, then why they have it in Miami? So how Miami keep on hanging up all these points? Miami averaging 40 points a game. Man, I could average 40 points a game too if I had a four by one track team. Listen to me.

Shannon, can you throw the ball? Can you throw the ball? Can you just be efficient and throw the ball? I'm too muscly. Let's say when you're younger and if you- Yeah, yeah, I can throw the ball. Yeah, I can throw it. Imagine you, I can put you in place of Tua

with that offense you got around him and that running game that you have and you would be able to facilitate the ball the same way he does and put up those same numbers.

Oh, Joe. So it's easy when you have that kind of... that kind of supporting cast around you. You got to let them boys get their timing up, man. I'm telling you.

That kid's going to be all right. They're going to be all right. Week four, week five is when every team hits their stride. I guess you're going to say there's something wrong with the Bengals too. Think about it. There's something wrong with the Bengals' offense too, huh?

What's wrong with your offense is your quarterback is dinged. You think something wrong with the Bengals' offense? Okay. You better hope your quarterback – Is Dak dinged? Dak ain't dinged, right? Nothing wrong with Dak? What is that telling you?

What is that telling you? It takes time for offenses to get in a rhythm and get their timing. You've seen seven years of Dak in this Cowboys offense. What haven't you seen? What more do you? Seven years is a large sample size. There are medical studies that don't take seven years, and they get evaluations.

You've got seven years, 16-plus games, and playoff games to evaluate Dak properly. Did you hear the Q word? Did you see the interception he threw? Did you see? Did you see the interception? Tell me who he was throwing it to. Now, there were three red jerseys around it and one white.

Now, I want you to tell me which guy you think came down with the ball. The middle linebacker that was watching Dak's eyes the whole way. Yeah, Dak was watching him. He watching Dak. So why you throw that ball, Ocho? So where was the ball supposed to go? Where would you want the ball to go? Not to the other team.

Well, normally, like, when we practice, let's try to throw it to the guys that have on the same color jersey as we do. Because, like, the scout team, they're going to have on the red jerseys or the jerseys the color of the team that we're playing. So what we try to do is not to throw it to them. Dak was in a position. He's trying to score as fast as possible.

There were three minutes and some change on the clock. I'm trying to get a touchdown as fast as possible to get my defense back out there because I believe my defense can get us the ball back and I can put that defense. Joshua Dobbs and James Conner go and Rondell Moore go up and down the field. That's it.

So yeah, that that one that all it takes is to get a score there. Let me tell you something. I'm going to play hypothetical. I'm going to be very hypothetical situation. Let's say Dak squeezes that ball in. Let's dac squeezes that ball in he catches that they get the ball back and that cowboy defense goes out and threes and out the cardinals hold on you know think about what you just said think about what you just said when they got that didn't happen i'm just saying what would

have happened what if okay what if no no that scenario, I would have need like when they got that interception, I would have needed the Cowboys to go three and out to make your point valid because what did the Cowboys, what did the Cardinals do? They ran the time off the clock. They ran the time out. So the Cowboys offense never touched the field again. Under what you just said, the Cowboys defense would have needed to produce a three and out for you to say, had Dak scored.

Because even they didn't score and the Cowboys defense didn't get the ball back. In a hypothetical situation, I think the circumstances would have been different. Had the Cowboys scored on that play. Hypothetically. I think. You like hypotheticals. Hypothetically. I think. You like hypotheticals? Hypothetically. No, I don't.

I don't because it already happened. I'm just trying to find a positive to keep the Cowboys fans happy. I like hypotheticals too. Hypothetically. You know what's funny? The Cowboys. What? You know what I like about the Cowboys?

We, or the media in general, Stephen A., you, and others, you know, the Cowboys are going to be in contention no matter what happened as a result of today's game. They're going to be in the playoffs. Yes. They're going to be in the playoffs, and they're going to have a great regular season no matter what. But you know why.

That's a fact. That's a fact. You think about what you just said. All the things that you said are true. Why it hurts so much when the Cowboys falter is because their fan base has set these ginormous expectations. Whoa, whoa, whoa. Is it their fan base? Is it their fan base?

Their fans are delusional. Is it their fan base or their owner? That's always in front of the camera that says these things. Hold on. That puts the pressure on the team. Their owner is is their owner. That's always in front of the camera. That says these things. Hold on. That puts the pressure on the team. Their owner is only one person. The Cowboys will have five of the ten. He is the face.

He's the face. He loves that. But the Cowboys will have five of the ten most watched games. So their fan base, there's no bigger following than the Cowboys fans. And so that's why when they lose. They're America's team. They have the moniker of America's team for a reason. Yeah.

Well, I mean, I thought we liked winners, and they hadn't won anything in 27 years. Think about how many championships New England has won since then. How many have over Homeboy won or the Broncos have won? So at some point in time, you don't get to hang on to a name forever. Well, it's still working. I mean, I guess you do. There are very few teams that can move the needle

when it comes to the media side of things. No, no, no, no. Nobody moves a needle like the Cowboys. Bingo. There's your answer. Nobody moves a needle like the Cowboys. Nobody moves a needle like the name LeBron James. Nobody moves a needle like, who else? Who else is a needle mover? I'm talking about for clicks, for eyes watching. Oh, well, with football, it was Brady. It was Brady. Oh, Brady. Oh football, it was Brady. It was Brady.

Oh, Brady. Oh, yeah. Most definitely. It was Donald. That's just the nature of the business. It's the way it is. Or you talk about soccer, you talk about Messi, or you talk about Ronaldo.

Messi or Cristiano. Yeah. Yeah. They move the needle. It's just the way it is. Especially in a negative light. Especially in a negative light. You do realize in the last two games,

the Cowboys have gone 3-4-11 in the red zone? Hmm. That's fixable. That's fixable. And you do know when you get to the red zone, it becomes that much more difficult to score. Just FYI. But you just said it's fixable.

So if it becomes that much more difficult, why do you make it seem like it's so fixable then? Well, it's fixable because all you got to do now is score from 30 on out. You don't have to worry about nothing. Oh, that's all you got to do. That's all you got to do, huh? Yeah. So scoring in the NFL is easy, huh?

No, I'm not what you do. At the points they put in the Dolphins just show you it's easy? No, if you look at the Dolphins, the Dolphins was hitting on their hands on the goalpost from 60 and 70. They wasn't even getting in the red zone. They was running through the red zone. Wait a minute. Now, we got some dogs over

there in them cowboy jerseys that can do the same thing. CeeDee Lamb could do the same thing. Michael Gallup is very efficient in intermediate and short routes. We do have a speed burner in Mr. Cooks, don't we? We do have

a burner too now. Don't do that. I'm talking about weed. I'm sorry. CD has played really well thus far this year. I'm sure he would like to get those opportunities like a Justin Jefferson or like a Keenan Allen. Keenan Allen got 18 targets today.

No, he had 20 targets, called 18 balls for 215. I don't know what it is, but Gallup and he and Dak hadn't got on the same page yet. And I think that needs to happen. So now that opens up CD a little bit more. I think he and Cook cooks need to get on the page a little better but they're running the football uh uh uh pollard has done a great job running the football they had a nice run game considering they had what two two three of their

starting offensive linemen out i mean there's nothing to complain about as far as running the football that just has to do a better job once he gets that team into the red zone of getting the ball into the end zone. Well, also, we can't put everything on deck, but also the plays that are called, maybe the plays that are being called aren't efficient enough to make scoring really easy. Sometimes you don't have to complicate things when you get in the red zone. Make it simple, understand the defense tendencies, and change up what you're doing as opposed to not what people are used to seeing. And then you'd probably get in the end zone a little bit more. You've got to be creative.

You've got to be creative. Let me ask you a question. Why do you study film? Simply for tendencies. So I know what to expect. Okay, thank you. So I know what to expect on down and distance. So all of a sudden now, you want a team to get into the game

and break all the tendencies, what they've been doing all year long. They might, we talked about this, they might break one or two, but they're not going to break, they're not going to junk

their whole game plan. Again, you don't have to not junk your whole game plan, but you want to know why you're 3-11 when you get in the red zone? Because you're not chaining up the goddamn tendencies

in the teams you're playing defensively, know what you're going to do once you get from the 20 inside. You just answered your own question. I'm not even a coordinator, and I can tell you what to do. All I'm going to say is this. Sometimes it's not the bait you're using, it's the fisherman.

I'm going to leave it at that. Come on, don't do that. I'm going to leave it at that. Don't do that. I'm just leaving it at that. Listen, there's no better fisherman out there than the one you got right now. How about that? Are you sure about that? There ain't no better fisherman. Oh, yeah. Show me one. I'm just leaving it at that. Listen, there's no better fisherman out there than the one you got right now. How about that? Are you sure about that? There ain't no better fisherman. Oh, yeah.

Show me one. Show me one. Name one. Ain't nothing out there. Don't do that. Don't do that. Because all you going to do is go get another fisherman and they're going to make the situation even worse. No, no, no. I'm just saying. So let me ask you a question. If we were to rank Dak, you think

Dak's the top 10 quarterback? Why do I have to rank him? I don't like putting numbers on people. Because that's what we do. Dank is a valuable quarterback to that Dallas franchise. All of them are valuable. What quarterback is invaluable? It's only 32

spots available at starting. You want a 32? You know how difficult it is to find a quality quarterback in the NFL? You know how difficult it is to find a quarterback? They got the most value. Wait. I have a question. Quick question for you.

Is there another quarterback that isn't on a team right now that can replace Dak and the Cowboys will still be a contender? Thank you! Period. So discussion is over. that isn't on the team right now that can replace Dak and the Cowboys will still be a contender. No. Thank you. Period. So discussion is over.

Discussion is over. There's no need to critique or ask him is he top 10 because he gives the Cowboys their best chance to win. And what chance is that? Thank you. Thank you. Considering the last seven years, what chance is that? Over the last seven years, what have you seen?

I've seen the Cowboys being contention every time and have a chance at lifting. You know what insanity is? But they fell short. But they fell short. They fell short. But every year, we have another opportunity at it, and that's what they got this year. Another opportunity at that Lombardi.

Doing the same thing over and over, hoping for a different result. Why do you think Tom Brady does the exact same thing every year? hoping for a different result why do you think tom brady does the exact same thing every year because he's been successful why do you think lebron james does the same thing every year because he's been successful i like that i like that analogy and i don't i don't like that i don't like the fact that you use two of the biggest icons that have been successful no but but what i'm saying here what i have... I have no comeback for those two. There's nothing I can say. What about Pat Mahone, boy?

He any good? Oh, yeah, he great. He's great. He also no disrespect. Ooh! Ooh! Ooh! Zach!

Jets fall to the Patriots 15-10. The Jets are so bad, the man was screaming and his teeth fell out of his mouth. The man, the man, the man ditches. He ready to catch them things. He's basically saying, Zach Wilson, you suck! Now, you told me. Now, Ocho, we had this thing.

I said, Ocho, I say, it's a bad feeling. I say, guys in the locker, you told me. Now, Ocho, we had this thing. I said, Ocho, I say, it's a bad feeling. I say, guys in the locker room, you see, you can fool the media. You can fool the fans. But you know everybody in that locker room that could play. And no matter what the media said, no matter what the fans said, you know that guy can't play. That guy got y'all fooled. Zach Wilson can't play.

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One of the greatest defensive minds. Do you know who Zach Wilson played against today? He also played against a division. Listen to me. He played against a divisional opponent that is very familiar with what the Jets like to do. Those tendencies that I'm talking about. You know what Bill Belichick is great at doing? Taking away your number one weapon.

Confusing a young quarterback like Zach Wilson and making a game difficult for him to win. At what point in time? That is what you saw today. That's what you saw today. You know what I see? That's what you saw today. This is what I see.

I see you continuously make excuses because when it belongs to the Cowboys, listen. I didn't make an excuse. I'm just speaking facts because I watched the game. But hold on. If you're the quarterback, you got to get past that. You can't say, well, he lost because it was a great defense. Oh, a great coach. He lost because it was a

great defense. At what point in time are you supposed to win some of these games? It's a team sport, right? games? It's a team sport, right? Yes! It's a team sport. Yes! It's a team of 11 guys on each side of the ball

doing their job as one, as one unit, one band, one sound to get the job done. That defense gave up 13 points. That defense gave up 13 points. What was Zach Wilson on third down? Let me get this stat right quick. What was he? Because y'all ain't going to talk about it.

You ain't going to talk about my dog like he the problem. Oh, he the problem. Because here's the thing. If he's the answer, I question the question that you're asking. Now, if you're asking who's the quarterback for the Jets, Zach Wilson is the answer. But anything outside of that? Two of 14 on third down.

Two for 14. What was he the previous week? Two of 11? See, I got... Can I ask you a question? Yeah, of course. Can I ask you a question? Yeah of course Can I ask you a question? Sure

2 for 14 and 2 for 11 Were people getting open? All I know is that's what a man Sacked himself Were people getting open? Oh so now Gary Wilson Ain't getting open Now you just told me

Gary Wilson No no I said Gary Wilson is this dude. What is Bill Belichick? I'm glad you say that. What is Bill Belichick's greatest thing at doing when he plays a team? Taking away

their best what? And you know this. Taking away their best what? He tried to make you one-dimensional. Whatever you're good at, he's going to take it away. Just take Gary Wilson out the picture because the defense, when the defense for the Patriots line up, wherever Garrett Wilson goes, whichever side of the ball you go to, the defense lines up based on his alignment.

So he's out the picture. So that leaves everybody else. Y'all got to come to play. Next man up. He was one of 10 last week. He's not going to beat us. Right. But here's the thing.

You got a nice running team. I need everybody else to play their part. Ocho. We're not going to see him blame Zachary. I need y'all to help my quarterback. Ocho. I need y'all to help my quarterback. They don't believe in him.

They don't believe in him. They don't believe in him. And you know it. Listen to me. Can I take? Listen to me, please, real quick. Maybe I'm just built different. Maybe the way I think, if I have people, Can I take, listen to me, please, real quick. Maybe, maybe I'm just built different. Maybe, maybe the way I think,

if I have people, or I have, let's say if I play for the Jets right now. Yes. Let's say if I play for the Jets. Okay. Stay with me, please.

And I'm not trying to be funny. I ain't making no joke because now I'm talking football. If I play for the Jets, I would love to be in this situation right now where people don't believe in Zach Wilson. Because I'm going to show you. I'm going to show you on Sundays. Whenever we play, I'm going to show you. I'm going to show you on Sundays.

Whenever we play, I'm going to show you. Zach, come hell or high water. I got you. Ocho. I need the receivers in that room. Ocho. It's easy to flip the script on what's going on with Zach. Ocho.

I need y'all. You got to win for him. You got to. Ocho. You got to win for him. You do realize the organization traded first round picks for another quarterback. Now let's just say

for the sake of argument, you're there and they draft two receivers. They draft one receiver in the first round one year and another receiver or they go out in free agency and sign a big time free agency. Do they still believe in Ocho Cinco? Yes or no? I don't like that hypothetical. Don't put me in that situation because I wouldn't be in it.

I don't like that hypothetical. You love hypotheticals. Listen to what I'm saying. Okay, so there's remember I told you about organizations and teams right now the officer coordinators, Robert Sala, understanding the weaknesses that your quarterback has.

How do we mask his weaknesses? You can't. You can. You can mask whatever weaknesses it may be. Let's find ways to simplify things. You know what, Ocho? To make the offense more efficient. Ocho.

You have Garrett Wilson. You have Ocho. You have Garrett Wilson. You have Lazard. You have Cobb. You got Brees Hall. There's no reason you should be 2-4-11 or 3-4-14 under any circumstances with what you had to work with over there. You know what, Ocho? No reason.

Ocho, I'm going to tell you. I'm going to do it like this here. I'm going to invite you to enough events. I'm going to make you bring that ugly girl to the dance. I'm going to make you, I'm going to do it like this here. I'm going to invite you to enough events. I'm going to make you bring that ugly girl to the dance. I'm going to make you play that quarterback. I'm going to stop that run, and I'm going to make him participate in this game. So I'm going to invite you to a wedding. I'm going to invite you to a baby shower.

I'm going to invite you to a dance. I'm going to invite you to a family function. I'm going to invite you to a party. I'm going to invite you to, guess. I'm going to invite you to, guess what, the Christmas party at the office. I'm going to make you show that girl. I'm going to make you show that girl that you've been dating, that you've been

hiding. The world's going to see you. And so if I'm a defensive coordinator and I'm playing the Jets, I'm going to make that ugly girl show her face. And Zach Wilson is that girl. The game of football, week in and week out, between the offensive coordinator and the defensive coordinator, is nothing but a chess match.

Nothing but a chess match. You not going to sit and tell me my chess pieces over in New York are better than the chess pieces over in New England. I'm rocking with the... You just told me, Coach... You just told me Coach Belichick

is going to take away... Belichick ain't on the field. Belichick ain't on the field. Belichick ain't out on the field. No, you're not listening to me. He's not on the field. I'm talking mentally for the players that's on the field. Belichick ain't out on the field. No, you're not listening to me. He's not on the field. I'm talking mentally for the players that's on the field. Yes, Ocho. There ain't nothing

you doing finna stop me. Mentally. Everybody has a way they feel about Zach. For the simple fact I'm finna show y'all ain't nothing wrong with this, man. I'm winning every time for Bull. Every time. Every time I'm getting open on everything.

Zach, if you need some way to go with the ball, first down, I'm here. Second down, I'm here. Zach, if you want to switch up the play and call something that you might see, switch it up. I got you. Let me ask you a question.

When Coach Belichick came into this game today, it's going to be raining or just, it's going to start mist. It's going to start spitting. It's going to start spitting. A little rain is going to start coming. What you think Coach Belichick's number one priority was? Stop the run.

I want the ball in Zach Wilson's hand. That's where I want the ball. I want it in his hand. I do not want him putting the ball in Breeze Hall and Breeze Halls and Carter's and Dalvin Cook. I don't want them to get 40 touches. Hey, so basically, you're telling me they stack in the

box, right? Yeah. That's what you're telling me, right? That's what I'm telling you. You're telling me they stack in the box, right? And they roll in the safety on the side with Garrett Wilson, and they got somebody in Garrett Wilson's face. So what we got to do on the other side of the ball, that receiver? What we got to do? It don't matter what he does. What we got to do on the other side of the ball, that receiver, what we got to do, it don't matter what he does to do for Zach.

So we don't have to be two and 11 or three for 14. What we got to do as receivers for Zach Wilson to make sure we can get the media and the other pundits to stop talking shit about our quarterback. What we got to do, what he got to do. See, see what you keep saying. What does he got to do? At what point in time is it he? I tell you what, when it come time to go to the bank, it ain't no we, it's I. Now you keep telling me what we. What is he going to do? That's what I need you to tell me because I have yet to hear you offer an honest assessment

and say this is what Zach needs to do. You keep talking about Gary Wilson. You keep talking about Breeze Hall and Carter and Dalvin Cook. What about him? I have a question. Oh, yes. I got an answer. I have a question.

Yes. Let me further dissect the film, not the TV copy, the real film, so I can get a better assessment so I can answer this the right way. Because I'm watching the TV copy just like you're watching. Yes. I'm watching the TV copy just like you're watching and understanding based on what i can see what's going on but for me to get in depth and get a better understanding

on what's going on and why it's happening i'm somewhat just taking an educated guess obviously yes based on what i'm seeing on why he's two for 11 or three for 14 when you're two for 11 three or 14 that's that means because there's nowhere for you to throw the ball. There's nowhere for you to throw the ball. If I keep what I try to do, and obviously you want to try to keep a team in third and long. You let a team get third and three. You let key teams get in short and you want third and long. Ocho,

what made you great was your ability not only was you technically sound as far as running route, you could process information. You could see something and instantaneous knows where you wanted to go and where you needed to be. How well is he processing it properly? He looks, because a lot of times all I'm trying to do is give you an illusion of what you think you're going to get, and I'm never going to give you that.

So I got pre-snap tendencies. But I'm looking around like, I know what the pre-snap is telling me, but from this alignment, in this down and distance, in this area of the field, with this formation, that ain't what y'all normally do. Y'all joshing with me. Y'all normally go. I know y'all come out here in a shell coverage,

or you come out here in quarters. Right. But I believe y'all going to go to what y'all normally do, which y'all probably going to go to cover six, and y'all probably going to kick it, which is cover two one side, quarters on the back side. So I'm going to anticipate that, and I'll react to anything else you possibly give me.

So the ability to process that information quickly. Okay. I get a rush. I get away from the rush. I get my eyes down. Immediately, I got to get back up. Now, I know where they was going with the football. I know I had a comeback. I had an over.

You know, I had a dagger run or whatever the case may be. Now, I got to try to pick those up, Ocho. Something isn't firing. There's a disconnect somewhere because it seems like every time he's a deer in headlights. Well, maybe because he getting hit every time he dropped back, I would be a deer in headlights too after always getting hit over and over and over.

Listen, I don't have an answer. I'm just going to be honest. I don't have an answer. I'm just going to be honest. I don't have an answer for what's going on with them in New York, but I do know I've heard about the offensive line. I've heard rumblings about the offensive line, and some people have always said even when Aaron Rodgers was in there early on, he also had issues with getting hit early

because of the offensive line. That could play some type of factor. And it would mess up. It would also mess up the processing when you got to think about somebody sacking you before you can get into your goddamn drop. I think the thing is, though, what Aaron would have been smart enough

and where he messed up, that was a three-step drop. And you know on a three-step drop, Ocho, whatever side you work, you got to stay that side or let it go. Ain't no way you can go, okay, I got a three-step drop. I'm looking right. And then all of a sudden, I'm going to try to come back. It's too late. Guy going to get you. Right. And so

third or three or 24 on third down, the Jets got some work because Buffalo seemed to getting their traction and we know what Miami represents and we just saw the Patriots just beat them. So right now, they got an uphill climb to make. Tomorrow, the big day for you and your family. You're going into the Ring of Honor.

And if I'm not mistaken, I think Anthony Munoz, it's Ken Riley and Ken Anderson. Are they the only three? I think Big Willie, Isaac Curtis. Okay. is Ken Riley and Ken Anderson? Are they the only three? Is this three? I think Big Willie, Isaac Curtis. Okay. Isaac Curtis. Big Willie.

Isaac Curtis. Yeah, Big Willie, Anthony Munoz, and... Ken Anderson? I think Ken Anderson. Yes, sir. Yeah, Ken Anderson. So you're going to be the first five. So are you nervous?

What does this moment mean to Ocho? I mean, when I think about it, it really hasn't hit me yet. It hasn't hit me yet. Obviously, the fact that the Bengals are honoring me and letting me know what they think of all I've done for the organization. You know, the ups, the downs, you know, the highs, the lows, all the work I've put in, it means a lot. But it still hasn't hit me yet.

It'll probably hit me tomorrow night just to see that name go in that stadium. And I will revert back to... That's forever. Yeah, that's forever. I revert back to, I wasn't even supposed to get to this point. Statistically, the optics, the illusion of even making it to the NFL based on where I come from, it wasn't supposed to happen. So the fact that I was able to overcome all this stuff

throughout my childhood and actually get to this point, man, it's crazy. It's crazy. It's a lot of stuff I wouldn't talk about or bring up. But, man, it don't seem seem real and it just ain't, it ain't hit me yet. It probably hit me tomorrow. So, you got anything special?

Because, you know, when I went to the Ring of Honor, I skydived into the stadium. That's what I did. You skydived? That's what I did. What part did you get? I skydived from 14,000 out of a plane. You for real?

Mm-hmm. I ain't mad. Now look at it. Now look at all of a sudden. Listen, I don't play in the air. I don't play in the air because there ain't no telling what that parachute might want to do when I choose to get on there and try to

jump out of that plane. That ain't happening. But it's a Monday night game, and I can't parachute at nighttime anyway. You got to live a little bit. You got to live. I do. I'm going to let you. Hey, I want you to live. I want you to get outside of your shell.

Listen, but that's something I don't like. I want you to come with me to Cabo and swim with killer whales in the wild. Oh, so you want to be right next to the killer whale? No, I'm going to be in the water in a while. They don't attack humans in a while. It'll be some good moments for us. Just by looking at them attack humans in a while, then what?

I'll be that way like you said. But listen, you'll go out the way you want to, like a legend. No, I don't want to go out the way I want to be a legend. Oh, Shadow was attacked by killer whales. That ain't nothing on my appetite. I don't want that on my... You see what I mean? Why don't you live a little? See, I was attacked by Killer Woods. That ain't nothing on my appetite. You see what I mean? Why don't you live a little? See, I don't want to

parachute on the plane. Hey, I live. I came and made an entrance. Think about it. Nobody going to top that one. Yeah. They're not going to top it, but just the fact that it's me in that walk, when I have on them slacks, I'm having them slacks and even a nice little shirt. Yeah when I'm having them slacks, I'm having them slacks and ain't no nice little shirt.

Yeah, I mean, nice slacks, your 175-pound frame. I mean, you're going to be sharp. You're going to be sharp? Yeah, what's that? I'm going to be sharp. I'm 205, but listen, I'm going to be sharp. Let me tell you. You know how I know you don't wear 205?

Because when you walk, your back pockets shake hands. You got to be at least 200 pounds for your back pockets not to shake hands when you walk. your back pocket shake hands. You got to be at least 200 pounds for your back pockets not to shake hands when you walk. Your back pocket shake hands because you're a buck 60. Tell them how many you walk. When y'all see you walking, back pocket shaking hands. That's how small he is. Listen, don't do that.

Don't do that. Okay. You'll see. I'm going to be sharp, though. I'm going to be sharp. I'm going to be sharp. You're going to see everybody 205. I think. I'm going to be shocked, though. I'm going to be shocked. I'm going to be shocked. You're going to see everybody 205. I think, are you going to become emotional when you give that speech? Because like you said,

the statistics said that Ocho wasn't supposed to be here. Kid from Liberty City, the impoverished community wrote off, oh, you're not going to amount to anything. Look at where you are. How are you going to do this? Nobody from Liberty City has done this before.

What makes you think you're going to be different? You know what? I'm the only one. Well, there are others that are doing it that's in the lead, but I might be the first to have something like this happen. That's crazy. But I'm not going to cry. The glands that I have in my body

that allow tears to come, it ain't there. I had those taken out. You're tear ducts are gone. Yeah. They call tear ducts. I took them out. I had surgery a long time ago.

Why are you laughing? I'm just saying. I mean, you don't know because you haven't been in that moment when you hear 70,000 fans. And they're saying, and you see them drop that, and you see your name, Chad Ochocinco Johnson, 85. And from this year to this year and the fans are

Ocho Ocho all that what your mom has done to make to help you get to this moment your grandma your kids are going to be behind you when they go back and their grandkids and their kids and your grandkids

go back to that stadium and they see, that's Papa up there. Ooh. Yeah, I'm probably, yeah, ooh. Hey. It's different. And you see your kids because me, my daughter

started crying. So now all of a sudden, she starts to feel emotion. So anytime my kids start to cry, even though when they were getting... They just start flowing. It's a wrap for me. I'm going to tell them. I'm going to tell them. Make sure y'all hold tight.

Daddy don't want to become no mean. Y'all hold tight for me. Daddy don't want to become no mean. Yeah, okay. I probably will. I'll do my best to hold it in and take in that moment. You don't understand how dope that is,

though, Shannon, for real. And the people that are watching, if you understand my story, if you understand where I come from during that time, during the 80s and early 90s in Liberty City, man, boy, it's hard. Shannon, it's only two ways out, boys, either the streets or sports.

There was no other alternate because I wasn't finna be no academic scholar. That ain't me. I'm just being honest. Man, the grandma, grandma and my mama,

man, especially my grandma, man, did a hell of a job. I really wish those two could have been there and that would probably be what hurt the most let's end

on this one um the buffaloes coach prime take their first loss on the road at oregon and uh we heard uh coach lanning's uh oregon's head coach pre-game speech they're doing what they do for clicks we're doing what we do for wins um what did you what did you make of the pre-game speech. They're doing what they do for clicks. We're doing what we do for wins. What did you make of the pregame speech, and are you okay with it? I love Prime. And what Prime has always done, and what he's never done,

is he's never changed. He's always been loud and boisterous about how he feels and what he feels, but he's never taken shots at another team, other coaches. What he's done is he's always lifted up his own players, himself, and whoever it is he's a part of at that time. Never say anything about another school's football program. His message has always been about people doubting,

about people doubting his team and what they can do. That's it. Right. That's it. Right. That is it. And what scares these coaches at this level, Power Five schools, Powerhouse schools, whatever it may be, these coaches need Deion the fail. People home watching this, listen to me close now. I ain't going to preach too often.

They need Deion the fail because they know recruiting is 90% of the game at this level. And who's not going to want to come play for Prime? Who's not going to want to come play for Prime? I agree. And it doesn't matter because in that press conference, Prime said one thing, y'all get your wins now and take advantage because I'm still coming. Because he understands. He understands. But what he was able to do in such a short amount of time, this is just the beginning. This is just the beginning for him.

Because the recruits, oh, they coming. Right. Oh, they coming. You know, I don't have a problem because we've all been a part of coaches that have said things. They've made those guys on the other side look like murderers and drug dealers and whatever the case may be, whatever to get us in a fever pitch to make us want to climb a wall.

Oregon should be the last team, considering they got 17,000 combination of uniforms, and it was all about clicks. It was all about likes because they weren't winning any games. The problem that I have, I think a lot of it, is that when I started hearing, when I started seeing on Twitter, is that I think Oregon and Coach Lanning

speaks for all of us, or they're doing this for the greater good, and that's coded. You saw that tweet? You saw that tweet? I didn't want to get into the racial undertone of some of the tweets that were being said. What do you mean Oregon and Coach Lanning speaks for us?

What does us mean? It's the undertone. The funny thing about it... This goes back to probably Jack Johnson. Goes back to Muhammad Ali. Black confidence drives a lot of people crazy. Because they want black people to like,

you got a job. You make money. You got this position. So when Muhammad Ali spoke black people to like you got a job you make money you got this position so when muhammad ali spoke about it i'm heavyweight i'm beautiful i'm the greatest how dare you you don't supposed to do that when jack johnson did what he did so we try to find ways to silence it so when prime says when he was but like he said y'all ain't competing against me y'all competing against my team yeah yeah so y'all try to take these me. Y'all competing against my team. Yeah. So y'all try to take these little personal barbs at me, and I ain't have no problem.

But then he got to halftime. I hope everybody that's been watching college football is still watching. I'm like, bro, really? That's how you really feel about that? But it's the thing about it. Prime is built for this. Of course. Prime is built for that. Yes. They've always talked about Prime because he's always been this way. He's always thing about it. Prime is built for this. Of course. Prime is built for that. Yes.

They've always talked about Prime because he's always been this way. He's always been this way. He understands what comes with the territory. And the funny thing, I want people to understand about this also, because you've already mentioned Jack Johnson, Muhammad Ali, on the way they carried themselves. This isn't a Dion issue. This isn't about Colorado.

This is an issue with whoever is up and winning at that specific moment and in time and getting all the praise and the love. Got to think what Colorado has been able to do or what the prime effect has been able to do. Wasn't nobody tuning in for Oregon? No. When's the last time you watched college football and say, oh, man, I can't wait to watch Oregon play. I can't wait to see what uniform they need. No. No. No. No, that's all it is.

Right. It's basically, you know what? Y'all having too much fun right now. Let's take our shots. But like Prime said, take them right now while you can. Right. Take advantage of it. I think Coach said it best.

He says, my confidence impacts your insecurities. So that's the crux of it. I love the, I've always said, when it comes to players like Prime, myself, and others that were very boisterous and flamboyant and expressed themselves in other ways that other people didn't see fit, or people, for that other people didn't see fit or people for that matter didn't see fit is I always told people I was I was never confident I was convinced it's a difference

because I already put the work in because if I didn't put the work in I wouldn't be doing no talking so I'm talking for a reason so what if I'm talking that lets you know I already and I know what I'm talking about and I know what I'm talking about. And I know what I'm talking about. So I'm not confident. I'm not cocky. I'm not arrogant. I'm not confident. I'm convinced. There's a huge difference. Look, nobody's shocked. Everybody knew top to bottom

Oregon had the better roster. And Coach Prime on first take said, I need seven, eight more dogs. Interior. He says, I'm seven, eight dogs away. Now, he probably gonna get 12. He probably gonna get 10 to 15 of them dogs. He says, I'm seven, eight dogs away. Now, he probably gonna get 12. He probably gonna get 10 to 15 of them dogs. Yeah. Recruiting is the

name of the game. And Coach Prime is great. He's great at being able to go into someone's home and tell them and talk to them and to appeal with the truth. Truth appeal with the truth. Truth.

With the truth. Not the lies to get you to come to this pool. If you're good enough, you're going to play. You don't want to come play for prime. You already know. Man, you already know what time it is. Yeah. Yes. We're out of time for tonight.

Thank you for joining Nightcap. I'm your favorite uncle, Shannon Sharp. He's your favorite number 85 going into the Ring of Honor, Cincinnati. Check him out tomorrow night. Chad Ocho Cinco. I got a question. This is a good one. Wait, we can't end?

I'm thinking about it. So this might be the next step or this might be a next step. If I'm going into the ring of honor and getting a jacket for the accolades and what I've done for the organization in Cincinnati, well, how about a gold jacket? What you think? What you think? I mean, you going to say a real estate?

I know Connor, Century 21, give out gold jackets. No, I'm saying what you think i mean you gonna say a real estate i know connor connor century 21 give out gold jackets nah i'm saying what you think you talk about going down the road to canton yeah because i'm i'm thinking about if you you talk about my era my era receivers right can you talk about my era receivers without mentioning me how many probls you got, Ocho? How many Pro Bowls you got? Five? Seven. Three-time All-Pro. 11,000. 67 TDs. Answer the question for me. Wait, wait, listen to me.

Listen to me real quick. Listen to me real quick. Yes. Outside of stats alone, the impact I had on the game and transitioning it in a certain way, in an entertaining motherfucking way, way beyond stats can entertaining motherfucking way.

Way beyond. Stats can't even fulfill that. Yeah, talk to me now. You were very entertaining, Ocho. But unfortunately, I don't believe your stats are going to be... They're not good enough? They're not going to be good enough to get you to the hall. Can I ask you a question?

Yes. There are many people that are in the hall that play receiver, and my stats are way better than theirs, Shane. I think the thing – So let me see it. Wait, wait, wait. How you going to move the goalpost?

Move the goalpost. No, but here's the thing. And I know some of those guys that are in the 70s was catching 30 and 40 balls a season. But in your era – So now I got to compare you. Look at the guys. What are their numbers in the era in which you played?

So you look at a guy like T.O. was in your era. T.O. had 150. Man, he is the best. Okay. Marvin Harrison. Okay. I'm just telling those, that's what you get. But look,

off the top of my head. When you talk about the best receivers in, listen, you can't talk, when you talk about the best receivers in my area, you can't even tell the story without me being a part of it. You can't. You just can't. Ocho, Ocho. You can't. I think you are very entertaining.

You can't. I am listening. Forget the entertaining part. I did, I did. I did what I was supposed to do on the field too. Ocho, Ocho, your numbers are not, your numbers are going to be insufficient as far as getting you into the Pro Football Hall of Fame.

Guess what? Guess what? Guess what? That's why I made my own jacket. And I don't care. That's why I made my own jacket. I ain't got time. Man, look here.

Enjoy tomorrow night. It's a very special occasion. Your family's going to love it. You'll never forget that moment because that's the team saying, you know what? We appreciate everything. The way you carried yourself on and off the field, we appreciate everything that you've done.

Job well done, Ocho Cinco. Appreciate it. Congratulations. Wait, we back tomorrow, right? We back tomorrow. Yeah, because tomorrow we going to be, we stayed a little serious the entire time. Tomorrow we going to, we're going to, we, we, we, we, we stayed a little serious the entire time. Tomorrow we're going to get jiggy.

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