Nightcap - Nightcap - Titans beat Dolphins, Giants upset Packers & Unc's named no. 1 most entertaining sports media member

Episode Date: December 12, 2023

Shannon Sharpe and Chad "Ochocinco" Johnson react to Tommy Devito and the New York Giants upsetting Jordan Love and the Green Bay Packers, the Tennessee Titans beating the Miami Dolphins, Shannon Sharpe named Complex's #1 sports media personality and much more! 00:00 - Introduction05:50 - Titans beat Dolphins14:40 - Giants beat Packers32:00 - Andy Reid forgives Kadarius Toney45:00 - Kyle Shanahan gets under DK Metcalf's skin52:00 - Unc wins award from Complez1:02:00 - The influence of big money1:21:30 - Undisputed/First Take opportunity1:30:00 - Much more Nightcap! #Volume #Club  See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Oh, we gonna go to a game and say Corsair? Oh boy. Oh boy. I ain't said Corsair to lick a game in about 22 years now. How about February of 19 never? No, I'm saying you've never sat courtside of the liquor game, period, let alone.

No, no, no. Remember I told you I sat courtside next to Denzel. I took my son. My son was maybe eight years old. No, no lie. No lie. No lie. I know I play around a lot, but I sat courtside next to Denzel. I took my son. My son was maybe eight, about eight years old. No, no, no lie. No lie.

No lie. I know I play around a lot, but I sat courtside with Denzel. And matter of fact, let me, oh, you know what? This is when it was.

Cause Denzel got on me when I was, I was disgruntled with the Bengals organization. And I was trying, and I was trying to like wiggle my way up out of there. And it ain't working. He, he, he got on my ass about that bullshit. Like he got on my ass.

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Let's get it. The Titans beat the Dolphins. They were down by 14 points with three minutes to go. And if I'm not mistaken, teams down by 14 points with three minutes to go in the fourth quarter had lost 767 consecutive games until tonight. The Dolphins lose 28-27. Tua played terrible the last two drives.

That's on him, Ocho. That's on him. He played bad. He played bad. It's 33, and he throws a swing pass seven yards behind the line of scrimmage.

Bro, you push the ball down the field, you get the first down. Why would you throw a six-yard route behind the line so the guy can try to get three yards he's already he's down nine yards Ocho yeah but I mean we've seen we've seen that swing pass that same pass behind the line of scrimmage sometimes hit and sometimes

go for a long way if you're in the first one you got to think about it now. You're in a two-minute situation. In actuality, you're in a one-minute situation. Time is not on your side because guess what? You get tackled in bounds. Now, all of a sudden, tick, tick, tick, tick, tick, tick, tick, tick, tick, tick. So there is no benefit in that situation when you're throwing the ball behind the line of scrimmage. But give the Tennessee Titans credit, though. Give them credit, though.

Go ahead. We will give the Titans credit, but this is one of the reasons, small example, on why a player by the name of Tyreek Hill belongs in the MVP conversation. Tyreek Hill

goes out and the entire offense Completely changes Yes And it's different It's different The dynamic of the The excitement and the energy

And the oh my god What's going to happen next Or the holding your breath Every time they snap the ball Because you never know What's going to happen Right It's out the window

It's out the window. It's out the window. That alone, today, tonight, showed you how special Tyreek is to that offense and just the NFL in general on what he brings to the table when he's playing.

What tonight showed me, Ocho, is when a team gets physical with the Dolphins, they bow down. Right. And we know one thing about the Tennessee Titans and Brable. They are a physical football team.

They're going to play physical. Now, they might not win some games, but you're going to know you've been in a fight now. You might win the fight, but you don't want to fight them again. You've been in a situation like, oh yeah, I got it, but damn, I don't want to fight him no more. That's what you get when you play the Tennessee Titans. He's an old school coach

I played against Braybill and although he wasn't the most athletic you knew you had a fight on your hand he was an old school linebacker he was tough at the point of attack he could set the edge, he understood his responsibility and if he was supposed to be to the flat, he was in the flat

if he's supposed to be hooked, he's going to be in the hook if he's supposed to carry you up the seam he's going to carry you up the seam. If he's supposed to be hooked, he's going to be in the hook. If he's supposed to carry you up the seam, he's going to carry you up the seam. And if he's supposed to sit the edge, you're not going to hook him. Every time he was as fundamentally sound as

any backer that I've ever faced. And his teams, they don't normally beat themselves. That's that Coach Belichick. We can't beat ourselves. It's that Coach Belichick. And we're like, look, we can't beat ourselves. Yeah, it's hard enough to win football games. It's a lot harder when you beat yourself. So give them guys credit.

Will Levis, 23 of 38, 327, one touchdown, one in the seventh. Can you imagine what DeAndre Hopkins could have done for the Kansas City Chiefs? Can you imagine him? Man, listen. Did you? DeHop went off tonight. DeHop went off tonight. So, are we under...

Is it too late? Obviously, it's too late. Ain't nothing you can do. I mean, we can't even go on the Chiefs right now because I'm still kind of hurt about the play yesterday. Once you look at it and read the frame, you know, we can't even go on the Chiefs right now because I'm still kind of hurt about the play yesterday Once you look at it and freeze the frame you see just how far offside Kedarious Tony Woods

Yeah, we'll get on that But when you watch this game and you look at the Dolphins and what we've said we've said, Ocho, we want to see them step up against competition because anytime they played anybody that was on their level of above,

they've lost. Now we see them playing a team in the Tennessee Titans who's fighting, trying to gain some traction and get into the playoffs. And they come to their home and down 14 with three minutes to go and beat the Dolphins. Yeah. Again, again, and there are so many different ways

and so many different things that people can say. They can dissect the game. They can be critical. They can be analytical of the game and say, well, you're up by 14. You're supposed to win the game. My whole thing is I'm going to say

is the fact that Tyreek Hill was not playing and the offense sputtered. The offense struggled. They didn't move the ball as efficient up and down the field as I think they should. And the big plays that they're normally used to having, they weren't there. They weren't there. I'm counting Tyreek maybe two or three goddamn touchdowns. I seen him walking with McDonald's in his hand. I said, you know what? You might as well strike out the van. You might as well strike out the van because he might as well strike up the van

because he going for about 250 or something like that. And when I saw the ankle roll... Ocho, but think about this. The offense is going to stall. To a foam of the ball at the three-yard line.

Going in. But that's not his fault, though. You got somebody missing a goddamn assignment. That dude came through. Somebody missed an assignment. He could... That was a three-step drop. You got somebody missing a goddamn assignment. That dude came through. Somebody missed an assignment. That was a three-step job. He couldn't even throw the ball.

The one thing that we're taught is that don't exacerbate a bad situation. If somebody missed their block, hold on to the ball. The last thing you want to do is that because someone whiffed their block, now all of a sudden you turn it over. Because in worst-case scenario, we believe we take at least three points off the board. And you know points are a premium in the league, especially this time of year. And so that's the one thing. But he's always been loose with the ball.

Even when guys don't come clean, he's always loose with the ball. His hands, I don very, his hands, I don't think his hands are ginormous, but I think he has a problem holding onto the football when he comes in contact with the defender. Yeah. I mean, it's,

I, he was getting ready to throw the ball. He was getting ready to throw it and be, and he kind of pulled it back just a tad bit and it was still right here at the chest plate and dude came in the time where it was too late and he could he couldn't even put it up he didn't he never had even have a chance to security none donated ten dollars and said oh today you said two of lamar jackson for quarterback play i think it's safe to say lamar is the best quarterback in the afc it's a fluid situation and you do, that's one thing about sports.

You have to update your resume. Now, we can't. Now, if Tua comes back and throws for, I don't know who they play next week. I think Buffalo. Buffalo plays the Cowboys. They got the Jets. So if Tua comes back and throws four touchdowns, Lamar throws one touchdown, are we going to go flip-flop?

We can't do that. It's a fluid situation based on what we have. But you have to understand. Now, if you'd have asked me that today, of course I would have took Lamar, like you're doing, because I noticed you didn't tweet me this today. You ain't text this today. You got my handle. You never said anything until after the fact.

See, you got the great, you got the magnificent sign of hindsight, which is a magnificent sign because you know based on what has already been discussed. It's easy. Ocho, man, it's easy to say what you could have done knowing the outcome already. Okay, Ocho, you know

how your career played. You say, man, if I had done this, done that, done this, man, ain't no telling how many yards I could have had. Well, yes, either do that now. So, we appreciate you watching. That's all I care about,

Zachary. Appreciate you commenting. Appreciate you watching the show. We appreciate that. Entering today, Tua had 24 touchdowns, 14 total turnovers. CJ Stroud had 24 touchdowns, 14 total turnovers. C.J. Stroud had 20 touchdowns, passing touchdowns, 9 turnovers. Lamar Jackson had 16 touchdowns, 12 total turnovers. So coming into tonight, he was 8 touchdowns and 2 turnovers.

He had 8 more passing touchdowns and 2 more turnovers. So I don't think it's far-fetched to say that Tua had played into a standstill, if not played a little better. Now, I'm not saying that the Dolphins are better than the Ravens. That was a whole different conversation. But again, Zachary, appreciate you watching. Tommy DeVito, Giants defeat the Packers 24-22. DeVito and the Giants have won three straight games. Undrafted rookie free agent Tommy DeVito marched the Giants down the Packers 24-22. DeVito and the Giants have won three straight games. Undrafted rookie free agent Tommy DeVito marched the Giants down the field,

got them in position to kick the game-winning field goal. He completed Ocho, four straight passes for 53 yards, including a 32-yard touchdown, a 32-yard pass down the right sideline to Wondell Robinson. The Packers lost Monday night, snapped Green Bay's 16-game win streak in December game. The Packers hadn't lost a December game since week 17, 2018, the final game before Matt LaFleur retired as head coach.

What did you like or what didn't you like about what you saw? Let's go with the Giants. What did you like about what you saw from the Giants besides them winning the game? That's always a positive. But what did you like about the Giants? Right. I think Tommy DeVito. Tommy DeVito coming in clutch. Tommy DeVito

coming in clutch when it mattered most. Obviously, the numbers weren't staggering throughout the game. He was only 17, but 21 for 158. But when it mattered most, what did he do? He willed them to a win. And obviously we know in Green Bay, head coach, listen, December,

they don't lose. So obviously if you're a gambler man, if you're a bet man, who are you betting on to win the game? Now I'm sure everybody named my everybody named mama, had the Green Bay Packers and Jordan Love to go in there and win because it's the Giants. The Giants aren't playing well.

They haven't really played well all year. But Tommy DeVito has been decent. He's been somewhat efficient in trying to will them to wins. And that's what he was able to do tonight. I don't think it's a stretch. But if you look at these last three games, it's hard for me to say that Tommy DeVito hadn't played better than Daniel Jones played at any point three games this year. I'm not saying he's the future.

I'm not saying he's the answer. But if you look at any three-game stretch that Jones played this year, and you look at Danny DeVito, Tommy DeVito over the last three games, it's hard, Ocho, it's hard to say he hasn't played better than Daniel Jones.

Right. That's tough. That's tough right there. And I think even with Tommy DeVito playing somewhat well and playing somewhat decent, obviously getting the win tonight. That's the same offensive line. That's the same offensive line that we was criticizing when they said Daniel Jones didn't have time to throw.

Those are the same receivers that Daniel Jones was throwing to that, that Tommy DeVito somehow is finding a way to get them to football. Yes. I have a question. Are you saying that they should, I don't think, I don't think Daniel Jones is coming back this year. And if I don't,

for me, even if he, nah, but I said switch, I meant like a actual switch. Oh, so you're talking about next year? Well, I think you put the job up.

You saw what Kyle Shanahan did. What did Kyle Shanahan do with Brock Purdy? What did he do? One guy was the third. They moved heaven and earth to get him. Third pick in the draft. The other guy was the seventh rounder. Missed the irrelevant. Okay. He said, guess what?

Well, can you still do that? Because the situation is kind of different. You just paid Daniel Jones, I think, for your 90 million or something like that. Can you still do that when you factor in the money? The money part basically tells you Daniel Jones has to be the starter. No, he doesn't have to be the starter. This is a pay for play business. Because think about what the 49ers mortgage.

Think about it. They didn't get the compensation back for what they gave up to get him. You know, you gave up, you gave up. I mean, you gave up, what, three ones? A two? How do you get that? And I think they got, what, a fifth or a sixth from the Cowboys? I think they got a fifth or a sixth round pick for Trey Lance.

Got it. That's crazy. That's one thing about this business. It used to be like that. The hot dollar guys had to play. Yeah. No more. No.

You always going to play, yeah. They got a fourth rounder. When they gave up three ones to get him,er when they gave up when they gave up three ones to get him right. Three. Think about it. They gave up three ones. That's

they got a fourth in return and some other compensation. And but here's the thing. I moved on from him. Tommy DeVito's on a rookie contract. Do you know the pieces that you can put around it?

And see, you remember you remember when I told you about, we were talking about the Chicago and Justin Fields. I say, but here's the, here's why, right? Because if you, if you keep Justin Fields, you're going to have to pay him somewhere between 250 and 300 million because he's going to, he's going to be in his fourth year of the contract. Yeah. Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.

He's going to be in the fourth year of his contract but is Justin Fields in a position to be able to set the market again and reset the market that's just the going rate that's just the going rate for a quarterback

no no no no no no no the going rate the top the top three top four top five quarterbacks set the market

like that. The growing rate, you have to fall in line based on production. They don't just pay you because that's what the market is. Daniel Jones got his money. He got $40 million. You think Justin Fields is going to take less than $40 million? Yeah. You got real quiet.

He ain't taking less than $40. Because guess what, Ocho? I signed my deal after he signed his. Inflation, which means the prices goes up. Right. Right. Yeah, but you have to understand, even with inflation,

that is only so much you can ask for because the first thing they're going to point to is they're going to point to your stats, they're going to point to your numbers. Well, listen, we can't send you too high regards to what inflation is because we're going to look at your resume, we're going to look to your numbers. Well, listen, we can't send you too high regards to what inflation is because, you know, we're going to look at your resume,

we're going to look at your production and what you've done for us. Now, you really don't warrant what you're asking for. I don't give a fuck what inflation say. I'm just telling you from the business side of stuff how the owner's going to look at it.

going to the rookie because I believe you can build around a guy that's on a rookie contract even though... And that's playing well. And get other pieces around him. Now I can come, I got DJ Moore.

I got Cole Komet. Now I can go back because I'm going to have my pick and I'm going to get Carolina's, which is the number one overall pick. So guess what? Hey, I package move my pick. Hey, I come back up and get next year's pick. I go get Marvin Harrison Jr.

I'll pair him with DJ Moore I'll pair him with Cole Kmet yeah and now all of a sudden yeah I've got weapons plus oh that's nasty yeah and plus all of that I believe based on the situation I think the Jets I think the Giants can use a quarterback I think the Giants can use a quarterback. I think the Raiders can use a quarterback. The Patriots can use a quarterback. The Steelers can use a quarterback. There are teams. Right. Whoa, whoa.

We just did Kenny Pickett. Just got there. The fans already picketing. And you talk about Kenny Pickett. They're picketing. Man, stop. You'd rather have Kenny Pickett over Justin Fields? You got to give the quarterback three years.

No, no, no. Don't give him the quarterback. No, Dad. You don't arrive until your third year. Would you rather have Kenny Pickett or Justin Fields? Make it a break a year. I like both of them. I like both of them, boys.

You can like somebody as a person, but as a quarterback, ain't nobody in their right mind taking Kenny Pickett over Justin Fields. I know what they need to do. I know what they need to do, but I don't mean to be off topic talking about another team and another quarterback

as far as the Steelers go, but they need to goddamn get George Pickett's the motherfucking ball. I'm sorry for cursing. I'm sorry for cursing, but that's the only way I'm going to get my point across and understanding the talent,

the talent that he is and what I know he can do, especially coming out. They ain't using that young fella the right way, man. He can change the game. At some point in time, even though you might not get used the right way, and I understand the frustration level, the way

he and Deontay Johnson, as Mike Tomlin likes to use, that's not solution-based because that type of behavior is not solving the problems. It's creating and exacerbating more of a problem. Tell me. I ain't even going to argue the fact.

I just understand winning cures all. So how does... And you have two players at the receiver position that are extremely, extremely good and can change the game. Those are the type of players that can make... Ocho froze. I think something happened to his Wi-Fi.

Damn, Ocho, pay your cable bill. Did you not put your credit card on file for incidentals damn I think he used the cheapest internet service man pay $20 to get the upgrade Ocho right now as you can see Ocho's having a little technical difficulties with his wifi but I think

Ocho what he's trying to say is that Deontay Johnson and George Pickens, they're frustrated. They're not getting the football, but they're the type of guys that can given the football, he believes they can solve a lot of the ills and the issues

that's going on with the Steelers' offense. They can. But I don't understand how moping and pouting, I don't understand how that helps the problem. That's my only thing. I just believe there's a right way and a wrong way to handle everything. Having played the game, and I get it, everybody is not, everybody is, you know, handle situation in crises,

or I wouldn't even consider this a crisis, but everybody handles situations different. And the way I handle situations might not be the way Ocho handles situations, might not be the way A receiver or B receiver or C receiver at someplace else, how they handle that situation. But I just, you know, my thing was always try to remain positive, make sure that, try to lead by example um understanding that hey yeah i want to catch the football and i do believe that i can you know given the opportunity i can make plays

but it doesn't always work out like that so uh we'll see how we'll see what happens with the steelers but right now they got bigger issues than wide receivers their quarterback play has been abysmal uh kenny pickett i do not believe is the answer. Like I said, I believe the Steelers fans are ready to picket him playing, and Trubisky is not much better. And the mere fact that someone thought that Mitchell Trubisky was better than Deshaun Watson

when they played in the same conference, and Deshaun Watson went to back-to-back national championship games and won the final in a walk-off play. You see Patrick Mahomes, I understand the Chiefs. Now that was a big risk for the Chiefs moving up from 27 to 10 to take Patrick Mahomes. But Andy saw something, says, you know what, with this guy, we can really expand this offense because they were really good with Alex Smith.

You know, they had Tyreek, had Travis Kelsey. They had some players, but they say, you know what? We can be Kareem Hunt. We can even be better if we had a quarterback that's willing to push the ball down the field. You know, I used to call Alex Smith, check down Alex. But when they got Patrick Mahomes, this offense went to another level. We got Ocho back yet? Ocho, log off and log back on. See what's going on with Ocho. Well, until Ocho gets back, Deshaun Jackson is feeling disrespected by the Eagles. D-Jack, number 10, is currently being

worn by a punter. D-Jack told Kay Adams, man, you see that? That's disrespectful, low-key. You got a punter wearing D-Jack's number oh my gosh man I guess I'm not as special as I thought I was uh I don't I don't necessarily believe it's that D-Jack but I mean did you want him to you know there's only I think what 10 jerseys that's retired I think there's only 10 jerseys. I mean, you're looking at Reggie White. You're looking at Tom Brokshaw. You're looking at Donovan McNabb.

You're looking at, rest his soul, excuse me, rest his soul, Reggie White also. Concrete Charlie, Chuck McNerrick, rest his soul. Jerome Boogie Brown. We know what tragically happened. He was well on his way. He was one of the premier defensive linemen when he tragically lost his life in a car accident. Van Buren.

I think he still has the record for the most passing yards in the game, right? 554? I think that's the record. I mean, look, I get it. All of us that we played and we had success at a at a team sometimes we overvalue

ourselves and sometimes I think we think we're more important than we actually are but I do think D-Jack is worthy of being in the ring of fame ring of honor and I think that's going to happen but D-Jack don't take it as a slight because the year I left,

they gave my number, they gave 84 away too. I was a four-time first-team All-Pro, seven Pro Bowls, and a two-time Super Bowl champ. And they gave my number to a guy. So it happens, D-Jack. Don't let that ruffle your feathers, bro.

You were a great Eagles player. You long to be remembered. An All-Pro at two different positions. You were All great Eagles player. You long to be remembered. An all pro at two different positions. You are all pro at wide receiver and punt returner in the same season. Not very many guys can say that. So you have a lot to be proud of for what you accomplished in Philly.

And so they're going to love you. And I promise you, every time they see the number 10, they're thinking D-Jack. Even though somebody is wearing that number, they're definitely thinking Deshaun Jackson. Is he back yet? Can we see what's going on?

We reached out. Kyle Shanahan targeted DK Metcalf. Kyle Shanahan encouraged his players to try to set DK off and try to get him to lose his cool in Sunday's game. Shanahan even prepared a set of video clips for his team that showed DK losing his cool in previous games. Shanahan told his players, we will get 14 to lose his mind. Christmas present for whomever gets it.

Wow. And I think DK understands that he's going to have to do a better job of controlling his temper because that's the word on the street. You can get DK frustrated and get him to get unsportsmanlike conduct penalties, and there's never a situation

in which an unsportsmanlike conduct penalty helps your team. Actually, it hurts your team. And in that situation, he got kicked out of the ballgame. And I understand he took a starting corner with him, but I think DK is a bigger loss than

D'Amador or Lenore. And you have to understand that. You have to understand the risk-reward. They're losing their second, third corner. You're losing your number one receiver. But DK is definitely going to have to do a better job of controlling his temper.

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get your podcasts. Okay, Ocho, we're going to go back backtrack. Did you hear me? Yes, we got you. You got me? Yeah, man. The Wi-Fi here in the hotel done cut off, man. Yeah, I keep telling you. Go ahead and update. Yeah, man. The Wi-Fi here in the hotel done cut off, man. Yeah, I keep telling you. Go ahead and update.

Look, you could upgrade Wi-Fi in the hotel for $20. You keep trying to dig the introductory Wi-Fi. No, not here. That's not where I'm at. That's not where I'm at. I'm staying at like a little motel. I get you. You could upgrade the Wi-Fi for an additional $20

instead of the introductory Wi-Fi. But they don't... They don't have that to choose from on the menu. They don't have that to choose from on the menu. But I apologize to y'all. That's watching.

That's my bad. I'm always trying to find loopholes and trying to cover... I keep telling you, be as cheap to me as you want to, but don't be cheap to yourself. Well, I'm always trying to find loopholes. Ocho, I keep telling you, be as cheap to you as you want to, but don't be cheap to yourself. Well, I'm a boy to be cheap to myself. That's why I find myself

in these predicaments like this. I apologize. But you robbing our fans. That's 10 minutes our fans didn't get to go back and forth between you and I. Right, but you know what's going to happen.

We're going to get our fans 10 more minutes back that they just missed. No no we're not no no no no we're not gonna do that yes yes i do i got nowhere to go uh i was before you left i uh yeah oh no we got to go to the uh andy reed andy reed uh said cadarious tony didn't check with the official although it did look like he did look to his left and check with the official but he did he should have waited for the official to confirm

actually when Kadarius came out and pointed to the official I saw the other angle right but all Kadarius had to do was he looked so damn fast when he lined up he should have looked back one more time. Actually, from the clip I saw, as a receiver,

you could see he covered the ball a little bit. You could see he covered the ball a little bit. So I think the problem, he won't have it again. Obviously, you don't make that type of mistake twice, even though it shouldn't happen because you own the ball. But it's very unfortunate for the Chiefs, you know, and when I saw that angle, I'm like, oh, shit, he did check with the ref.

But he was so far over the ball. He checked with the ref. But here's the thing. Normally, like, when you're outside the numbers, you ask, he can say 85 back up. You can hear, you can hear right there. But he was so far. Go ahead.

So it's... Right, you don't think it's up to the ref to at least acknowledge or scream? No. 819, back up, back up. In that situation, you're not going to be able to hear because he's so tight to the formation and the ref, that's the side judge. So he's on the sideline.

But like they said, we can give you a warning and say, but ultimately it's your responsibility to line up onside. And plus the thing is, if you notice, he's looking down. He can see the ball. He can, oh, he's like looking. And I think Andy Reid, once he saw how far he was over, he came back and changed his tune.

Now that's not to say the NFL didn't call him and say, Andy, you DA, you DA on this one. You DA on this one. Now, yeah, we're going to attack you a little bit, but you're wrong because your guy was offside. But he says, Andy says, I won't be giving up on Kadarius

Tony. He makes plays when he has the ball in his hand, and that's important. He's a young guy he doesn't he doesn't have a ton of experience but i think he's getting better every week um how about some guys that came out what about jamar chase have you ever heard uh his head coach say anything about he's not he's a young guy and he doesn't have a ton of experience you ever heard that what about devontae devontontae Smith was in that draft. What about Jalen Waddle?

Yeah. Everybody growth and everybody experience and the way they mature and play the game, everybody's different in the way they go about it. Armand St. Brown. But I do know that motherfucker there, nice. But this is what I want you to think about it now. He's a first round pick and the team that's nice. But this is what I want. Nice. Think about it now. He's a first-round pick,

and the team that originally drafted him gave up on him after 22 games. Ocho, they not giving up. You just said, make that money. They got to keep you a little longer. They not giving up on the first. Ocho, and you Brian Dayball, name one player that you've ever heard something

that could have gotten along with Brian Dayball or had something negative to say about Brian Dayball. Right. Right. At some point in time. Listen, young bull, young bull, young bull. Nice, man. Young bull is gangster.

He nasty with it, with the ball in his hands. I think the only thing stopping him right now is just a little bit of confidence. Because when he owns. But can he keep the ball in his hands? He's special with it. he's special with it. He's special with it. We just needed to be consistent. Once we get a consistent Cadareous Tony, man, shit, hell.

Watch out now. I'm just telling you. I believe you. I'm telling you. I know we see flashes of it, and then we have moments like what we had last night. You know, the offside. Sometimes we get the occasional drop here and there. But, man, with that boy his own, I'm not going to take nothing from him. I just know with his own, he's on.

I saw a flash. I guess it was a falling star or something. But I need something to shine bright all the time, Ocho. Right, right, right, right. Listen, I mean he trains And works for it to shine bright All the time, you know Sometimes it just don't happen like that for us

Sometimes it don't happen like that for us You know what Ocho heard the thing It's the same mistakes Ocho So what is it that he's missing It's the same mistakes He's consistently making the same mistakes He's consistently Making the same mistakes That's it

So he is consistent It's just making mistakes Little structural discipline Goes a long way He gonna get it He gonna get it right Young fella Young fella now

Cause you know When you was a young pup Now you made mistakes too Don't do that I remember you I remember when you was 25 How old was I? He might not be that old Probably about 23 He probably came out early Now you made mistakes too. Don't do that. I remember when you was 25. How old was he?

Probably about 23. He probably came out early. That's it. That's it? Oh, man. 23, man. Shit. Boy, you know what I was doing when I was 23?

Hopefully not making those kind of mistakes. Yeah, yeah. Same mistakes when I was 23 in Cincinnatiincinnati i'd never forget uh what what else i missed you missed uh yeah you got your tv on you got your tv on your tv your tv my who yeah can you turn it off yeah yeah why how you know yes that's on? Your TV. Your TV. My who? Yeah, can you turn it off? Yeah. Yeah, why? How you know? Yes. That's bad?

Ocho, can you please turn your TV off? I wouldn't be asking for my help. Okay, hold on. Oh, you can see the reflection of everything blinking huh here too but anyway uh it was it wasn't on it was everything on show we good we good now a lot better but i just think the thing is is that look i understand yes they're going to be growing pains but don't you if you keep making the same mistakes, either one or two things, either you having a problem

learning or you saying F it, which is I need to get to the root of the problem. That's all I'm saying. The root of the problem is doing it in practice and then just having it translate over into the game. Because when you do it in practice, you're doing it translate over into the game. Because when you do it in practice,

you're doing it to obviously have the results in game. Sometimes you make mistakes. Sometimes you drop balls. Sometimes, you know, like we saw, you line up in a very important, important moment.

And, you know, people see it as a bonehead play. Something that we learn in Pee Wee football. How the lineup cannot cover up the ball. Let me ask you a question, Ocho. Why did you practice? Yes, sir.

Yes. Why did you practice? Why did you guys practice? To get better at my craft. To get better at my craft. And so I can go out there and execute the game plan on Sunday. The way I looked at practice, I didn't practice so I got it right. I practiced so I couldn't get it wrong.

Right. There is a difference between the two. That's a good one. Right. And you have to be able because at practice, Ocho, you're never going to be able to simulate what's transpiring in the game, the 80,000 fans, the bumping, the officials. I mean, we have officials in

training camp, but once the training camp's over with, we don't have officials at practice anymore, Ocho. So now, I need to get myself in the right frame of mind. And I think the thing is, the thing that Mike man, it, whew,

you make the same mistake twice with Mike? Whatever the hell the thing is the thing that Mike man, it you make the same mistake twice with Mike whatever the hell the pain is because he's going to ask you so what did you do last night that got your mind focused that you can't focus on what you got going on right now

yeah yeah there's only one way to do it Ocho remember I've always said all the time get good or get gone now what you want to do you going to get good or you want to get gone because we're going to tolerate you until we can replace you

and that's with anything that's in any any relationship you know sometimes a female will let a guy talk to her any kind of way. A male will let a female talk to him any kind of way. And they'll tolerate said behavior.

Then all of a sudden, they can find somebody to step in. Boom. I'm good. Yeah. Hey, listen. Everything is replaceable in life. yeah hey listen every everything is replaceable

in life you know whether you're in business whether you're in sports whether you're in relationships and a lot of people feel that they're not replaceable but the man upstairs

will humble you real will humble you real quick yes will humble you real quick you know this unless especially after a certain period of time,

they're looking for your replacement. They're looking for it. Unless you're one of these elite, elite players, they're looking for your replacement.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. And then once you get to a certain age, you can be elite and they're still looking for your replacement. Looking for your replacement. Yeah. That's replacement. Yeah.

That's business. That's the, that's the nature of the business. D-Jack is feeling disrespected by the Eagles. I talked about this earlier, but I wanted to get your take. D-Jack's number 10 jersey is currently being worn by the punter. Braden,

uh, Brandon, Braden, man, Brandon, man. D-Jack told Kay Adams, man,

you see that? And that's kind of, that's disrespectful. Low key. You got a punter wearing D-Jack's number. Oh my gosh, man. I guess I'm not as special as I thought I was, man.

Yeah, man. D-Jack and what he did for the city of Philadelphia, man, during his time and his tenure there in Philadelphia was elite. You know,

he was a very, very, very, very dynamic player. One of the few players in the NFL during his time where when the ball is coming his way, you hold your breath. There are very few players

and of all time, the real motherfucking Holyfield. He's the real deal. So I understand how he feels and why he feels that way. You know? And I'm kind of different, though. I don't really like the comparison because I think D-Jack, you know,

to me is a much better player. So I understand where the bothersome comes from and allowing someone else to even wear the 10. But do the Philadelphia Eagles retire jerseys? I think they got 10 players retired. They got Donovan McNabb. You know, they got Reggie White. They got Donovan McNabb. You know, they got Reggie White. They got Steve Van Buren.

They got Tom Brookshire. I know you don't remember Tom Brookshire, but VBS was the first crew to have, but him and Summerall, all those guys. So they used to have a lineup doing color. They got Jerome. They got Boogie Brown. Jerome Brown.

You know what? He tragically lost his life in 92, about a week or a couple of days before his birthday in a car accident. Man. They got Concrete Charlie, rest his soul, Chuck McNary, the last two-way player, Reggie White, rest his soul, the minister of defense.

So they, yes. But, but the way for me, I remember when I left, I left Denver in 2000. I was a seven consecutive Pro Bowls, four first team All-Pros, and two-time Super Bowl champ. And I found out they gave my number to a wide receiver. But no matter who gets an 84, you go ask anybody in Denver, 84, they would tell you that's Shannon Sharpe's number. So I don't care who they put in that number.

I don't care who they put in it. Right. Bronco country, Shannon and 84. So, yeah, I get D-Jack. D-Jack, and that's what i said earlier oh joe is that no matter who they put in 10 they're gonna d jack is is 10 for them it's it's synonymous it's synonymous with him yeah same the same thing i think i think 85 i mean honestly i do oh joe oh oh oh you think you see is curtis yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay, that's fine.

Ain't nothing wrong with that because he's the original 85. Okay, that's fine. That's fine. But you have nothing to say, Ocho. Like I said, I'm old enough to remember Isaac Curtis. Ain't nothing wrong with that. I remember. I did my homework before I got there.

I did my homework. I know about it. He was the real deal. Let's see here. What else we got? Oh, check this out. Kyle Shanahan targeted DK. Kyle encouraged his players to try to set DK off

and try to get him to lose his cool in Sunday's game. Shanahan even prepared a set of video clips for his team that showed DK losing his cool in the previous game. Shanahan told his players, we'll get 14 to lose his mind. Christmas present for whomever gets him. Ocho, did you ever play against a guy or team that you knew you could exploit? You know what?

That's a great question. I like the way you said that. Obviously, Marvin Lewis didn't have any film or anything like that to show us. But what I did do was I played mental gymnastics. I did as much I played mental gymnastics. I did as much talking throughout the week. I did as much talking as I could in pregame

to try to get in guys' heads. If I can get you to engage with me in any way, whether it be nice, whether it be mean, then I know I'll have you beat a little bit. That gives me a little edge

mentally. Physically, you might be better than me. But I need to beat you in the middle game. That's where I'm going to win. I'm going to beat you in the middle game. If I can get ahead just a little bit and throw you off for real, just a tad bit,

that means I got you. That's the way I went about it. As far as, you got to understand the defenses I had to play against. Man, the 2,000 Ravens, them 2,000 Steelers. Even the Cleveland Browns back then, them boys were the real deal. So I needed them to be angry.

I needed you to be, be mad and trying to hurt me. That means you're not playing smart football. You trying to kill, you know, you trying to knock my head off. And that gives me an advantage and it gives me somewhat of an edge because you playing wild and free and reckless. As long as I'm, as long as i'm as long as i'm technically sound i'm gonna be okay yeah and that's the way i think the thing is is that dk has a history of getting unsportsmanlike conduct and so until he gets that under control guys are going to try

to bait him because normally it's a situation, he got thrown out of the game. Dumbledore, Lenore got thrown out. That's not equal. That's not equal value. And plus he has to understand Lenore. It's like, man, even though we're already down Ward, man, we get DK out of here. Oh, we good.

We Gucci. Yeah. It evens back up. And that was the thing Ocho see for me it's easy because guys want to shut me down

to say I got a pick I got a pick off Shannon Sharp or I didn't I didn't let him catch a pass so the guy

carried me up the scene you ain't getting nothing Sharp I said but you got the flat you see TD TD running you worried about what I got

I ain't supposed to I'm clear. Oh. Give him a nod. I give him a move to the post. You got the corner. Why you biting the move when you got the safety unit and you're in cover one? The safety gonna knock

my head off. You undercut the route. I'm going back to the seven. Uh-oh. See? Because you so caught up in trying to shut me down. Anxious. Now you getting out of your responsibility. But we play certain teams that we already know. We go into the game.

We're going to get an unsportsmanlike conduct against Kansas City. We're going to get the Raiders. Oh, we already knew. We already know it's going to happen. Shut up. You suck, too. He suck. You suck know it's going to happen. Shut up. You suck too. He suck. You suck.

All y'all suck. Man, shut up. Y'all talk too much. Well, do something about it. You ain't going to do nothing. All y'all going to do is talk. Y'all talking.

Watch this right here. Oh, man. I ain't need to score. I love that. It even felt better because now because I'm all tired because normally I don't have to run away. I won't TD. I won't need to score. I love that. It even felt better. Because now, because I'm all tired. Because normally, I don't have to run away.

I won't TD. I won't ride to score. So now, I got all the oxygen in my lungs. So now, I'm just talking the whole. Right, right, right. I'm in your ear. Told you y'all suck. Doing all that talking.

You talking like you like that. You not. You not. Now, see, me, you lucky he got you. Now, see, you keep talking to me, you going to. You not. You not. Now, see, me, you lucky he got you. Now, see, you keep talking to me, you're going to find your name on the waiver

when I come Monday. Now, keep talking. You know what I'm talking about? Keep talking. Now, watch what I do to you. Talk. Yeah, you see, you talk a different type of trash.

You know, mine was more of a, it's hard to explain it was more of an entertaining i'm a i'm a jig at you and jig at you but not in a negative way not in a malicious way i'm trying to hold a conversation with you man how the family how the kids doing man you and the wife you and the wife you're doing good if i can get you to engage in any type of conversation with me i was just playing my games i was just playing my games. I was just playing my games. And it worked. I was cool.

Look, I got into it with the linemen. Rest your soul, Cortez Kennedy. Man, me and Ted used to be going back and forth. Holy. As soon as the game over. That's a big boy, man. Sean, man, you crazy. How your brother do it?

How your family do it? We good. But we going back and forth. Same thing with Chester McLaughlin. Rest your soul. Man, I used to go, hey. See, I got into it normally with the linemen, the D linemen, because they was really the only ones that would go back and forth with me.

So, but our offensive linemen would get upset because now they teeing off on them. I ain't got to block them. Yeah. See, I got in trouble like that, too. I never forget, man I'd never forget when we played the Ravens you know I like to go

argue with Joey Porter I like to go argue with Joey Porter and uh Adelio Thomas and argue with Ray Lewis during the no when Bart

with Bart with Ray and I used to mess with the linemen Haloti Nata um Peter Boulware Peter Boulware there.

Yeah. Listen, I like to go talk trash to them during the TV timeout. I'm never in my huddle. I'm all in the Ravens or the Steelers huddle. And Big Willie had to get on me over and over and over. Ocho, man, get over here, man. You don't have to deal with them. You amping them up and ramping them up.

We got to deal with them. Ain't nothing wrong with that, don't you? I'm like, man, it's cool. I like Big Willie, baby. They put their pants on one leg at a time just like we do. I got to celebrate a little bit. Shannon.

Shannon Sharp was number one on Complex Most Entertaining Sports Media Personalities. I was one. Stephen A was two. Charles Barkley was three. Pat McAfee was four. Shaq was five. Cameron and Mason were six. Gilbert Arenas was seven. J.J. Reddick

was eight. Michael Irvin was nine. And Mina Kav was six. I mean, ten. Those were the top ten. And... Hey! We finna celebrate. Hold on. Hold on. What? Huh? and yeah hey we finna celebrate hold on we finna celebrate they say brand is dandy but liquor is quicker

yeah yeah when they say a loophole is better but uh I don't know that's it I finna get some of this donut though you know what Ocho it wasn't no look at the

killed old Bill it didn't even take his breath a little green hornet went up Bill's nose and tickled Bill to death

but you know it is nice and smooth nice and smooth Ocho you know I like to get by the fireplace you know

you don't really turn the fireplace on in California. Yeah. But, you know, you sit by the fireplace and you sit back and you reflect. Yeah. You reflect. And I know. Right. Yeah, I understand that 2023 didn't get off to the best start for me.

There were a lot of things that was going on, the situation that happened at the Lakers game, what was going on with me with Undisputed. But I remember, and I tweeted this, and if y'all go back and look, you can see, I said 2023 is going to be my year. Because my sister sent me a quote. She said, if you kneel before God, he will stand for you.

And if he stands for you, no one can stand against you. But this couldn't be possible without you. Look, I would be remiss if I didn't mention my six years and nine months at Undisputed and Skip giving me an opportunity because that's kind of where it started. I was able to formulate a personality, become relatable. And so I really appreciate Undisputed and Skip giving me that opportunity. And then Steve and I come in and I've only worked with Steve and A for about four months, and him giving me an opportunity.

And if you notice, I'm getting more and more comfortable. So I'm starting to be more and more like the Shannon that they saw in Undisputed. And then you and I get together. You and I have been working together for a little over three months. And so... Hey, but we're tearing this shit up now. There's a lot that went into this. And although

I'm number one, I couldn't have done this without Skip. I could not have done this without Stephen A. No, we. Okay, we number one. We number one. Next year, that's what needs to happen. We number one, okay. That's what needs to happen.

Yeah. Look, Cam and Mason here as a duo, they're actually the only duo on here. So we definitely need to be. We need to be. And I got no problem with that. We're going to be number one next year. Matter of fact, we're going to be, we need to be, and I got no problem with that. Kelsey, Kelsey and- We're going to be number one next year. Matter of fact, we're going to-

Okay, yeah, Kelsey, the Kelsey brothers are 21. So they're the only, they're the only brothers, they're the only combo. Everybody else are individuals. And so- We're going to be number one now.

Because what we're doing right now is sitting in such a short amount of time at the rate and the pace that we're going. Even after you got honorable mention, Ocho. Honorable mention. I got honorable mention? Yeah. Honorable mention. Candace Parker,

Matt Barnes and Stack, Marshawn Lynch, the Manning Brothers, and Jeff T. I got honorable mention. I ain't never won nothing in life, but I'll take that. You got honorable mention after three months. Imagine after you get an entire year up under your belt of doing this.

And we do what we do because we're only going to get better because we put this thing together last minute and really had no knowledge because I know I knew you, but we haven't spent a whole lot of time around each other.

So the chemistry that we've developed, we've developed that on the fly. Oh, listen, the chemistry was already there now. We cut from the same cloth. So when you look at it and you look at what we've been able to do thus far, like I said, the time that I spent on Undisputed, Jamie Horowitz, who's one of my bosses over at The Volume, when they came down, he was like, hey. And he said, you're going to be a star.

He said, with your quick wit, your hard work, you're going to be great. Stephen A says, look, my job is to take you to a level to make you bigger than what you already are. And if I can't do that, I failed you. He told me that. He says, I'm going to make sure

however big you are currently, my job is to make sure you're 2X, 3X that if you were to decide to leave. And then getting you, yes. Well, hold on. Hold on, man. I want to be double-XL2, man.

So y'all going to bring me on board? You got this doing this. Think about it. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Three months. Yeah.

So imagine, yeah. Yeah. Two months. Well, we've been doing it since September. Because we in the third month now. We launched the channel two months ago, but we've been doing it since September. Okay. Okay.

Okay. Okay. Shit. I want to be big, too. I want to be famous. Yeah, shit. I want to rub shoulders with the A-list. You look at the guys.

I mean, obviously, for me, Charles Barkley is the guy that i looked at because charles is from alabama and i said rural alabama held everything in alabama's rule it ain't no ain't no city parts of alabama everything in alabama's rule but it was him that could be his authentic self he played the sport he didn't have a problem criticizing players even though players it rubbed some players the wrong way. And I know he takes a lot of criticism because he never won a championship. But I'm a firm believer, Ocho, you can be a great player and not win a championship.

Greatness. And so for me, I mean, you're looking at one. I look at Pat McAfee and I look at the model which he was able to do. He's a punter. Punters don't normally ascend at the model, which he was able to do. He's a punter. Punters don't normally ascend to the level of which he's ascended to. And to see him go from doing a little thing in his, in his basement and having a little bit of this and that.

And all of a sudden he has 2.3 million subs. And also he's taken a model that take him gone from digital to take it into linear television. So you look at him. And so for me i'm like and i want pat mcafee having been around him a little while and talk to him i want him to succeed to show that this model can be successful so the bigger so the more successful he becomes that let guys that's in the space like you and i that, maybe there's a potential run that we could. But if it doesn't happen, Ocho, I'm cool with this being,

I'll be in our home right here. Right. But no, no, no, no, no. But that's not how it's going to be. I've already foreseen the future. But here's the thing, Ocho. I already know what's going to happen. Anything you touch, anything you touch, anything I've touched,

anything you've ever touched, it turns a goal. Whatever vision you have, it always comes to fruition. That's just the way God works. God has favor. He's always had favor for you, and he's always had favor for me. Now, when you put both of us together, now the dynamic duo and what we've been able to create in such a short amount of time needs to be a study done at Harvard. Because it's never been done this fast before. Ocho, but here's the thing.

What we do on nightcap is not cut out for linear television because if we take nightcap to linear television, we're going to have to dilute it too much. And that takes a- Yep, Ocho. Ocho, listen to me, Ocho. I'm telling you how linear television works. We can do this because we own digital. You think we could talk about what we talk about on television?

Yes. Can I say something? We could change the motherfucking landscape of linear television. By not changing. They're not going to, Ocho. You think they're going to let us talk about what I said about Meg Thee Stallion? Or what we talked about Miss Nasty B? Ocho You think They're going to let us Talk about what I said About Meg Thee Stallion Or what we talked about Miss Nasty B

Ocho come on now That's what TV is missing Unc They missing the They missing the real That's why digital Us You know

They missing Authentic Organic Material And content That's what we need We need to take a stand And get on linear TV

And just be us I'm going to let you take a stand and get on linear TV and just be us. I'm going to let you take your stand and you go to linear television. I'm going to stay right here on YouTube with this or we're going to have to get a different, we're going to have to do something else. But Nightcap in its form currently

does not exist on linear television. Right. And it's okay. Look at Howard Stern. Okay, all right. Howard Stern ain't been on linear. And when you see what- A. Exactly. A. Yeah. Yeah. Stern. Okay. All right. Howard Stern ain't been on. And when you see what. Hey.

Exactly. Yeah. Yeah. Hey. Yeah. That's a big boy. It's okay. Yeah.

You know, digital, they pay money too. Right. And you're getting more things. You get the Amazon. You get the Netflix. You get the Hulu. Hey, you got the YouTube. YouTube just purchased the NFL.

Right. The rights, the right for 10 years. So it's OK for me. I'm cool. I'm cool with it. Yeah, I feel you. But I think I think I just don't like the fact that we can't be on linear television and actually be organic because of that. Yeah, I know. But that's but that's what TV need. That's what TV need. television and actually be organic yourself because of the era.

Yeah, I know, but that's what TV need. That's what TV need. They need that raw, uncut, uncensored, just, they need, I'm not rude, I just say what everyone else is thinking. Yeah, see? That's what we

need right there. That's what we need right there. Think about this, Ocho. That's what we need right there. We got it right here. Think about this, Ocho. I feel you. I feel you. I'm just saying. I'm just looking at the bigger picture.

I'm looking at the bigger picture. You know Mr. Beast? He does $60 million a year. And he ain't on linear television. Oh, yeah, he nice. And they've been asking him to go to linear. He said, no, I'm good right here. Right. Let's not.

They'll try to change. What do you think they're going to do with us? You think they're going to let us talk about the subject that we talk about? How we talk about it? You think I will go back? You think I will be able to say a word of the three? You think I will be able to say saloon doors? Deep hearted, continuous.

Come on, Joe, man. We got to be real in our assessment. Okay, okay, okay. I was just saying, if we never knock the door down, it ain't going to ever open. Guess what? I got you. I'll build a house around the door.

We ain't got to knock it down. We ain't going to build a structure around the door. That's a wreck already. Check this out, Ojo. The heir to the retail empire, Hermes. That's how it's pronounced. Hermes. Hermes. He's planning to adopt his 51

year old gardener so he can pass his $11 billion fortune to him. He's the grandson of the founder of the fashion giant who owns 5.7% of the country. I mean, excuse me,

the company. Yes. Nicholas. Right. But you. Pooch. Nicholas Pooch. Wait. So he's given a small percentage

No He's given 11 billion dollars He wants to adopt him So he can leave 11 billion To the Gardner He has He doesn't have kids But he has siblings

And see This is And I'm going to see what you have to say about this Sometimes People think Because you're blood siblings and see this and i'm gonna see what you have to say about this sometimes people think because your blood but sometimes people that are not blood will treat you better than people that you say i share a bloodline with and and and then yeah there's an expectation where i'm your blood no matter how bad i should treat you i treat you yeah. Yeah. I'm entitled. No, you're not fit to treat me. You're not fit to treat me bad and think I'm going to leave what I've

accumulated to you. I wish I might. And when some, when somebody else is treating me better. So what's your take on that old joke? I mean, I like it. I like it.

It's, it's, it's a bit odd. It doesn't happen much But in life Especially when it comes to business And sometimes you have things going for yourself Let's say

You got a clothing business Your family Would be the first one to say Man Shoot me something and let me wear it Why not support? Why not support? Your biggest support is When you have something going on Are you selling the product Or anything you have going not support? Your biggest support

is when you have something going on or you're selling the product or anything you have going on in life. Your biggest support are the strangers that you don't even know.

Don't even know. You don't even know. Don't even know. Every time. It always happens like that because the people you do know, man,

we want your boy something. And you know black folk favorite line, boy, let your boy get a discount. They'll pay $6,000 for Louis Vuitton and won't pay $100 for your stuff. Oh, yeah.

Oh, never. Never. Because, you know, Louis Vuitton is a status symbol. It's an image. You know, it's a portrayal of I got money. I ain't got no problem with Louis. I ain't got no problem with either. I own Louis Vuitton luggage and gear.

But I'm just saying, for me, and you know, like a lot of times people hit me up. That's a lot of money though, huh? 11 billion? Wait, you see how much those earned man's bag costs? They got bags that cost, that start at like 25, 30000, $30,000 and go up to a million. A bag. Yeah. Yeah. Hey, listen, I did my homework now. You know

Christmas coming up. You heard about the Himalayan bag? Yes. Floyd Mayweather was the first person I ever saw with that bag. Well, actually, I saw Sotheby's auction went off way back for like $300,000. But Kim K got a Himalayan.

Floyd Mayweather got a Himalayan duffel. Yeah. I think Drake might have one too. I think Drake got one of the boys in the house. And Ocho, you just can't walk up in there and get one. I don't care how much money you got. Oh, no.

They got a list. You know who had to find out they had a list? Sure. Ask me how I know it's a list. Because Christmas coming up. Because when I tried to get something and I wasn't on it. That's how I knew it was a list.

That's how I knew it was a list, Ocho. Hey. They's like, you ain't on it, bro. Hey, that's a different word up there, man. That's a different word up there, man. You know? Ocho, sometimes manners and good

friends can get you things money can't buy. Mmm. Man, say that one more time for the people in case they missed it, man. Money can't buy. Man, say that one more time for the people in case they missed it. Sometimes manners and good friends can get you things money can't buy. Well, you lucky I ain't got my pen and paper with me. For sure, Ocho. I'm just...

And you never know. Ocho, I ain't gonna lie, Ocho. Since I've been on my own, and I'm not really on my own, but I'm just saying, as an entity trying to grow Shea Media, Shea Media, I've had more people reach out

and want to help me in a lot of different areas. Right. I like the way you conduct yourself. I like the way you speak. I like the way you treat people. I like the way you conduct yourself i like the way you speak i like the way you treat people i like the way you handle yourself i help you here well i know somebody over here let me put you in contact with them i know somebody over there a lot of what transpired of what you see going on somebody referred but, but I had no idea, had no knowledge of these people, Ocho. Right.

That's why I say be, Ocho. Man, that's dope. That's live. My grandfather used to say, boy, be careful. The toes you step on today might be connected to the foot,

on the leg, that lead to the butt. You got a kiss tomorrow. Be careful how you treat people. You never know. Come on now. You preach it. It ain't even Sunday now. The toes you step on today might be on the

foot connected to the leg that lead to the butt you got a kiss tomorrow. Be careful how you treat people. You never know how you treat somebody today and the position that they're in tomorrow. I had a young lady I met 20 plus years ago. 20. Yeah.

We kept in contact. She, hey, Shannon, we having a conversation. Would you be interested? Yes. Deal got done. 20 years. Might talk to got done. 20 years. Might talk to her once every four years. But she remembered she was at an entry level.

Her job was to come and to show me around and help things like that. But she got a higher job now. And she remembered how Shannon Sharpe treated her. Even though I was in the NFL how I was, she said, you know what? He didn't look down on me because I was in the position that I was in. That's how I say be careful how you treat people

because you never know. Yeah. Especially when you're high up. Especially when you're winning. Normally when you're winning and you got money and things are going really well for you, people tend to act funny you know they move differently because they make people when people have wealth and money you feel like you're invincible for some reason you feel like you you you yeah it's you against the world nobody nobody

tell you nothing nothing at all and know, sometimes you treat people bad. Sometimes you treat people bad because you feel you're better than others. I've never, ever, ever, ever. And I think this is a funny story. And this goes for people in the chat. This goes for people in the chat. I'm sure there are people that have crossed paths with me at some point that might be watching. I have a thing that I'm known for doing.

And I've been doing it for years, even when I was playing, is I have a thing for telling people I love you. Obviously, I tweet it every day, but if you ever met me in public, I tell people I love you and everybody get a hug and I introduce myself and act like I've known them for 30

years and I ain't seen them and I ain't never seen them a day in my life. But I always like to make people feel I always like to make people feel like I know them or they've known me for years because obviously during my playing days, you know, the media vilified me and I bought into it

and being the villain. So I just like to show people my true colors and my other side that really is me. You know, the fun, the loving, you know, the playful and people walk up to me and is me. You know, the fun, the loving, you know, the playful. And people walk up to me and like, man, listen, I ain't want to bother you. Before he even finish talking, man, I be like, man,

bring it here, man. Give me a fucking hug. Where you been at all these years, man? Yeah, just making people feel good. I think that's how you were raised. I just remember my grandmother always, you know, treat people with respect. For me remember my grandma, my grandmother always, you know, treat people with respect.

For me, Ocho, I've never, even from, and I think because I didn't have a whole lot. And even as I started to accumulate, I never thought I was better than someone else. I might think I could do my job better than you could do your job,

but that doesn't think I'm better than you because I have more than you. I might think I'm better at what I do as opposed to what you do, better than what you do, but I don't think I'm better than you because I have, because I'm on television, because I played in the NFL, because I got a gold jacket.

No, I'm not better than you because of that. Now, I think I do what I do right now on television. I don't think there's very many people out there. I don't think there's anybody that can do what I do better than what I do it. But that's just the way I was raised. And my grandmother's greatest enjoyment, it wasn't that she had two grandboys that made it to the NFL, that graduated college, that was making millions. Her greatest enjoyment

when people came and say, Mary, you did a great job with them boys. Because everybody, that's how they, you know, that's a Southern thing. That's how they respect. They ain't really,

I don't remember ever being called by name. Hell, I thought my name was boy. Hey, Mary, where them boys at? Mary, them boys. Barney, what about them boys? So that's just the way and i was like you know what that's my grandmother's crowning achievement was right right right right i mean

you you're your reflection your reflection you are reflecting how you turn out how you turn out and how you operate once you go on from under that umbrella in that nest is reflection of course i'm a reflection of mary and barney porter i'm a reflection of i grew up in on them. I'm a reflection of Mary and Barney Porter. I'm a reflection of, I grew up in Glenville. I'm a reflection of Savannah State. I'm proud because I'm one of their brightest. I understood no matter what transpired,

he went to Savannah State. He's from Glenville, Georgia. He was raised by his grandparents. My mom, man, you look, my mom, my mom, you know, called me. Well, now she just, I was like, look, whatever my mom needs, you don't have to clear it. It's a yes.

It's a yes. Right, right, right. And I know because my mom, mom, it's not a problem. It's okay. You know, we, mom, it's taken care of. Don't worry about it. Why are you calling me? Why is nobody?

Well, you know, I hate. No of don't worry about it why you calling me well you know I hate no don't hate as long my purpose and I told my grandmother I got y'all and when I say I got you I got you my brother my sister my mom I got y'all now the kids that's another story

y'all young but they know they know hey remember what I told you Ocho I'm last option not first choice store. Y'all young. But they know. They know. Hey, remember what I told you, Ocho. I'm last option, not first choice. Yeah. You know Christmas coming up, huh? Did your kids give you their

Christmas list? Yeah. Yeah? You getting everything on there? They ain't kids no more. They my kids but y'all grown now. Hey the days of the days of 10 and 15 things. All mine grown too now. Ocho the days of 10 and 15 things I want this this this this this this this those over. Ocho.

Oh you don't do that no more? Except my son who's married. Hell the girls they get down to everything they want anyway during the year. Oh, okay, okay, okay. All right. I think, I mean, just saying for me, obviously, you know, I have a tribe. I have a tribe. You know, all of mine combined together. The fact that we're in that social media era of wanting to be flashy and portray this image of doing this. You know what's funny?

Those, I have kids from them who have done one hell of a job. Because my kids haven't got caught up in that lifestyle of having to have the latest of the latest. Or to look like, oh, well, I got to look a certain way because of who my daddy is. They never got caught up in that. So they look the part. They look great. They're really good at,

what's the word I'm looking for? It's not what you wear, it's how you wear it. So when times like this come around, and I look at the Christmas list, and it's like 13, 14 items on one, I ain't got no problem. I ain't got no problem getting everything because we go the whole 11 months. Y'all barely asked me for nothing.

Y'all barely asked me for nothing. So come times like this, I'm excited because this is one of the few times of the year where I actually spend some damn money. You always said don't be cheap with myself, right? But that's how I've always been. But Christmas time? Yeah. I think the thing is, look, I can't wait

to see them faces on Christmas day. I can't wait for somebody else to take my role like a husband. That's what I'm looking for. Okay, okay, okay. But I think the thing is for the kids, I'm like, look, as long as you don't give your mom, because I know you're not going to give me

no problem, because I stayed. The one thing, I've always done a great job. I told all my kids, I say, our dynamic won't ever change. I said, I'm always going to be your dad. You're always going to be the child. I said, even if I'm old and feeble and you got

to take care of me, the dynamic will never change. I said, I don't ask for it. I demand your respect. Because I've done too much for you not to respect me. I said, look, I'm going to treat you like an adult and we can agree. You ask me my opinion, I'm going to give you my an adult and we can agree. You ask me my opinion.

I'm going to give you my honest opinion. But at the end of the day, you're grown. You make your own decisions. But I demand that you respect me. I demand that you respect your mom. That's all I ask for you. That's all I ask from you is to respect me and your mom. Right.

Now, your mom called and said she got a problem. Then you will have a problem with me. You're going to have a big-ass problem with me. Right. No. You ever had them issues, though? Because they might... No, no, no, no, no, no, no.

I was about to say that. Because they might pick up the phone and say, well, I'm having a problem with such and such. Put them on the phone. Okay, now what's the problem? Yeah. What's the problem? Leave that shit right in the bud phone don't make me get on the flight and come right you know what's funny you know what's funny is i'm the fun guy i'm the fun father and i'm never the one that has to do

the disciplining because mamas well um well they don't play that right i'm i'm those where i'm from nah they don't play that they don't play they don't play that and i think i was lucky i'm very fortunate you know and i say it from time to time all the time because i'm never in a space on a platform to to give them credit for the job that they have done with my kids. Yeah. But man, man, shit. Or then, you know, the thing was,

you want me to call your dad? No, don't call him. Hell of a job. No, don't call me. Don't today. You get it. There's nothing that you can... I'm the last resort.

It got to be something real serious. But if somebody pick up the phone and call me, it got to be real serious. You got everything that you wanted. I mean, we rolling dice. Man, we win the dice game, and they get these little electric scooters. Man, I think I spent like $3,000 on them electric scooters.

Got my girlfriend to send them to him. The mama said they can't have these. Yeah. Shannon, they ain't never driven anything in their life. These kids going to end up hurting themselves. I said, okay, what's the sell issue? Sell it. Just like that, sell it.

Just like that? You say I give them something and you say they can't have it I'm not going back and forth with you you say they not qualified to have it

sell it what am I arguing about stuff like that for you know you around them more than I right so you know

their capabilities more than I do I got no problem with that. I'm not going to go back and forth with you about, nah, I bought it. I'm their dad. It was never none of that. It was never that type of disagreement. Did we disagree?

Absolutely. Of course. But as I started to get older and the kids started to get older, it wasn't that big of a deal. You know, once you realize that you know what? We ain't doing nothing but hurting the kids.

I said, we arguing about petty stuff. Is it really that serious? Is it really that serious? They're like, nah. You know, it takes very mature woman or it takes a mature woman to actually get to that point where they don't want to argue about nothing

because it's a waste of time. Because sometimes you always ask in the chat, if you're married, if you have a boyfriend or you got a spouse, ask them. You want to be happy or you want to be right? Which one you want to be? You want to be happy or you want to be right? Because you can't get both. Sometimes you can't get both.

Sometimes Ocho is better to be wrong and keep the peace. Then to be right and cause an argument. And once I realized that. It's OK. See, guys, it ain't that big of a deal. Come on. What we argue, what we what we actually arguing about. okay. I said, guys, it ain't that big of a deal. Come on. What are we arguing? What are we actually arguing about? Because when we created this,

there was no argument. There was no argument. But now, what? Come on now. Because at the end of the day, you know I'm going to always do, yeah, I'm disappointed that you put me through this, but I'm always going to do right by the kids. Always.

And so it wasn't always like this. It took some growing on my part and say, you know what? Because I had to be right, Ocho. No, you're not going to get the upper hand on me. F that. I'll spend my life.

Right, right, right. I ain't going to let you get the upper hand. And then I was like, you know what? It ain't worth it. It ain't even worth it. And so now we got great relationship.

You know, hey. That's growth. Happy Father's Day. Happy Mother's Day. I always ask the kids, how your mom doing? They doing good. But it took a process to get to where we got, Ocho. Because, you know, I'm playing football.

I'm trying to be the best I can. And I'm feeling like, bro, y'all trying to attack me. Y'all trying to take advantage of me. And maybe that wasn't the case, but I grew up fighting. So I ain't got no problem

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Your grandmother have been dancing in heaven right now. God be the glory. Keep moving forward. Yeah, Faith, you're absolutely right. But sometimes forward. Yeah, you're a fake. You're absolutely right. But sometimes you need someone to give you an opportunity. Skip was the first to gave me the opportunity because before I before anybody, I was the first athlete to do the debate format every single day. Now, there are a lot of people do it now, Ojo, but I was the first to sit across from a journalist and do this every day. But I knew I had to be exemplary because people that know me know how hard I work, know how much I study.

And if he couldn't do it, well, who's going to do it? So it cost me relationships because when I should have been going home, Ocho, to be with my partner, I wanted to stay because in the process of me flying, I was going to miss a game. Or I was going to miss something. So no, I sacrificed that to be good for others because I wanted to show we weren't dumb jocks. Be it football, be it baseball or basketball. We're more than that. That's what you know us for. But that's not who I am. And so that was my process.

And it cost me two relationships. And it was all while I was in Undisputed. But I wanted to be great at this. I wanted to be better at this than I was at football. Because football was natural. wanted to be great at this. I wanted to be better at this than I was at football because football became, football was natural. Yes, I am quick-witted. Yes, I can ad-lib.

Yes, I'm personable. Yes, I'm relatable. But to be able to, remember Ocho, you don't listen to always to respond. You listen to understand. So now, not only was I having it because now it's more conversational,

a little less debate. In a debate format, I've got to, now I got what I want to say, but I got to punch holes in your argument also. So I got to listen and tell it to what you're saying.

Punch holes in that all while retaining the information and getting my point out also. And so now I got to hold information. I got all the knowledge, chosen that all while retaining the information and getting my point out also. And then when you, and so now I got a whole information. I got all the knowledge, everything to spit out LeBron, to spit out Bird, to spit out Magic,

to spit out Jordan, to spit out Brady and Manning and this guy's stat, that guy's stat, and baseball and basketball and track and field and social issues. And in 1968 and in 1948 and this and that yeah it's not as easy as you think because everybody can't everybody when that red dot going on that camera everybody can't talk on cue and i got a producer in my ear that oh yeah turn it over to

him make sure you get that point in and that's it also that's also because I had great, Steve Owens was my first producer that produced my part of the show at Undisputed and then I got Ash who's right now the CP right here bro, she made sure

they made sure I was prepared because I said okay, this is what I want to say and it says okay and I'm like okay what do you think he's going to say so now we got to formulate Ocho we staying up two hours three hours now remember I got to be to work at 4 a.m. LeBron James comes to the Lakers the game is going

off at 10 30 11 o'clock now we're having conversation after the game and we're talking okay if I say this, what you thinking? What's his retort? So now I've got to hold all that information for 10 blocks. What he's going to say, what I think he's going to say, also what, so I can count it. But I also got to get my A and B points in also.

And so I've been very, very fortunate to have been surrounded by great people. That although I'm in front of the camera, it's the people behind the camera. CJ with Club Shay Shay does a great job of I think this person will be good. I think this person will be good. I think this person will be good. I think you should reach out to that person coming up with, with, with questions like, let's go in this direction.

I think we should start here and go there. I think we should start there and go here. Ash coming up with topics on this, making sure, uh, for first take, she got, she got,

she got a lot on the plate. She got a lot on the plate, but from the very first time, and I told her, I told her the very first time I met her, I said, if I get a show, and if I ever leave Undisputed, you're coming with me. And she looked at me like I was crazy. And even when

I went out on my own, I said, is she coming with me? She went in and said, hey. She put in a notice and said, I'm leaving. She called me. She said, Shannon, where we going? I said, I don't know. and said, hey, she put in a notice, said, I'm leaving. She called me, she said, Shannon, where are we going? I said, I don't know. She said, but wherever you go, I'll be there. She said, I like that.

She called me. I said, Asher, I don't know. I like that. It's July. Asher said, what are we doing? I don't know. She said, okay. She said, but I believe in you.

But I told her the very first time I met her, she'll tell you. I said, if I ever go on my own, you're going to produce my show. Oh, yeah. So, I'm a

loyalty guy. And if you're down with me, I got you forever. Yeah. Forever and ever. So, and I told her when I went to the volume,

I said, look, y'all can do whoever have the background. I say, but whatever I do, right. She's in charge. She speaks for me.

Don't call me. Now she, she knows me better than you do i said now when she says something it's coming from me if i ever have to call you're not gonna like the call i promise you so just let her handle it same thing with cj y'all let him handle it. Y'all talk to my sister, Shelly. She's the executive assistant. Don't call me. When you see my number pop up on your phone... It's a problem.

It's hell to pay. So, Ash Handle, Nightcap, and ESPN, CJ Handle's club, Shea Shea, Jordan Handle created the sign, and Shelly overseverseas Everything. But when you have to talk to me, I don't want to do no talking. I talk enough during the course of the week. Don't call me with no bull jive. And if they say, well, Shannon,

we can't get this done because they... Nah, I got to pick up the phone. But Ash does a great job letting me handle it. I think, you know, they didn't listen today, but I think tomorrow they'll get the idea. They'll get the idea. Nikki Grant, Shannon, you better celebrate your accomplishment

with your fine ass. And I see you just fine. Chadford, good night, Shannon, and only Shannon. Damn, won't you want to keep doing you like that? Nikki, Nikki, what? That's the same one. Give me, what? That's the same one. Give me your people. I see you drinking.

Nah, they ain't my people. Only people I know, only people I got is Real. Real think I'm fine. That's all that matter. Real say, I'm a 12 on the scale of 10. One to 10. You, you, you, you, Ochoa, of 10, one to 10. You afraid, Ocho?

You know, you 185. Not right now. See, I like, you know, I like that 180. 180. If you ain't 180, you ain't no lady coming to me. I like about two,

about two and a quarter. Two and a quarter. Two and a quarter? I'm talking about Ocho. You got the one leg up, and they tell you to pick the other one up. I said, I'm about to sit this one down. You know, yeah. Come on, Ocho. I've been saying

that's what I like. You like what you like. I like what I like. You know what I'm saying? See, Ocho it's a blessing and a curse hold on you can't hold your legs up at the same time girl I'm about to put this one down

the worst thing about having muscles is that everybody thinks you can pick them up but everybody ain't fun size Ocho you know what I'm saying, Ocho? Hold on, wait a minute now. You live all the way.

I saw you living all the way, but you have to understand I'm living those weights in a certain manner. Ocho, you know only 200 pounds like this here ain't easy. Yeah. Yeah.

That's different now. That's different. Yeah, we're going to be a pair of men in the hall, both of us, because I'm going to drop you and I'm going to throw my back out. yeah that's different that's a lot on your back both of us are out of here because I'm going to drop you and I'm going to throw my back out so hey Jadon

Young Smokey VP 17 donated $200 and he asked what specific team did you enjoy balling on most of your career Steelers Ocho, Chiefs did you circle balling on most of your career? Steelers, Ocho, Chiefs, did you circle them on the schedule?

Yeah, I wouldn't circle none of them boys, bro. That defense was one and two every year. Especially that Steelers defense. Well, they wouldn't shit the circle on that motherfucker there at all. Goddamn Ike Taylor, Deshae Townsend, Troy Palomaro,

Joy Porter, James Harrison. Circle who? Shit, I ain't circling shit. I leave that bitch with a circle around my eye. That's about it. We had a week. I'm just playing with my head.

We had a week. It was dedicated. Because when Mike came back, this is what happened. Mike got the job at the Raiders. He got fired 20 games into his first head coaching career. Al Davis owed Mike the money, but he wouldn't pay it. And he told him, you'll spend more money trying to recoup the money

than you do what I owe you. So when Mike told us, we took that personal. So Mike wanted to kick that. We want to beat him too. So we're going to beat you enough. We're going to make you get the money up. Kansas City, it was a dog fight.

Kansas City and the Raiders. Now, Seattle was also in our division. Seattle used to be in the AFC West. It was us, the Chargers, the Raiders, and the Chiefiders. Now, Seattle was also in our division. Seattle used to be in the AFC West. It was us, the Chargers, the Raiders, and the Chiefs. The Raiders and the Chiefs. Now, the Chargers, you know, they were tough. They had some good teams. We liked going to San Diego

because the weather was normally nice. The Kingdome, I don't know if you remember the Kingdome, but playing in the Kingdome, it was loud. So just imagine the 12th man indoors. Yes. The 12th man indoors. It was loud. So just imagine the 12th man indoors. Yes. The 12th man indoors. It was loud.

And there were defensive-based football teams. Man, it was hell. It was hell. They had Tez. They had Boogie Bryant. They had some good football players. Not only Tez is the one that you know about,

but they had some, I mean, Kenny Easy was before, he was gone before I got there. But they had some good teams. But the Raiders and the Chiefs, we'll fight them before the game, we'll fight them during the game, and we'll fight them after the game. We ain't like them.

We ain't like them. Now, check this out, Ocho. You know who started this with the Steelers and the Ravens. You know who started this with the Steelers and the Ravens. You know who started it, right? Who? I call Plexiglas.

Call it Plexiglas. I ain't care look I got the two thousand ravens what I care about what y'all gonna do what y'all gonna say yeah

and you know they had they had Joy they had I'm trying to think who else they had they had Earl Holmes one year they had

Kendrell Bell oh Earl but hey boy Earl was a thumper Kendrell Bell was a thumper boy boy them boys coming down here.

We're talking cash. They didn't like us. We didn't like them. And the thing was, Coach Cowan and Coach Belichick, they talking too. The Tennessee Titans with Coach Fisher and Brian Billing, they didn't like each other. We didn't like them.

Yeah. So you know me. And when I got to the Ravens Brian said I don't care what y'all say just know we got to back it up on Sunday for real hold on

yeah let me take my glasses off like you I said for real I can say whatever I want cause Mike didn't like you really talking like that now once I got on the field

he ain't like you saying bullet to Boris Storff during the course of the week he said once you get to the game I don't care what you say right but Brian said what you say you can say whatever you want to just know you get to the game, I don't care what you say. Right. But Brian said,

you can say whatever you want to. Just know you got to back it up. Oh, that right up my alley. Man, look here. You tell Plexiglas just to catch the ball and not worry about what we got going on over here. Right.

Man. The Beatles, me and Tequila, now me and Tequila used to work out. Yeah, me and Tekeo now me and Tekeo used to work out yeah me and Tekeo had to get paid so they was talking about

they said Tekeo Spikes is a is a poor man's Ray Lewis man I said you know what let me get this thing a little spy

cause right now this thing is going I said man comparing Tekeo to Ray Lewis is like comparing dude, where's my car to Titanic?

All that said it all. Not Tekeo, not Tekeo got to go off in the face. Not Tekeo got to say something to match what I said. We get to the middle of the field.

We dab each other. Good job, Sharp. I like, yeah, yeah. I figured you liked that. I figured you liked that. Because now, he, uh, dude, he bawled his ass off against us.

I probably should have kept my mind shut. Yeah. But it's too late now. You know, what's inside there, it's out there, Ocho. And to the,

oh yeah. You can't, listen, once you say it, you can't take it back. And if you talk it, you better walk it. If you talk it,

you better walk it. Me and Tequila, like I said, we worked out before. We worked out after that. Every time I see him, bro, how you doing, man? As a matter of fact, I just did his podcast last year in Arizona. Great dude, man. Georgia boys. You know, we ride hard for one another.

But we on the other team, we ride hard against each other too. But then we're going to come back together in the off team, we ride hard against each other too. But then we gonna come back together in the offseason. Right, right. Check this out. DJ JR says, Hey, Uncle Ocho, I was DJ at Channing Crowder's

bidet party. Ask Ocho for a photo and he gladly took one with me. Ocho, a real one. Great job, guys. You did that, Ocho? Man, you know, I take pictures with anybody, boy.

You know? But listen, my hair wasn't done. I take pictures with anybody, boy. You know? But listen, my hair wasn't done. I ain't had no lashes on. But you want a picture? Don't worry about it. I'll show that thing in color because they ain't going to see you. Did you let me out? Nah. That's why they got a bunch of filters. Even if you can't see me in your picture,

you can lighten it up. Even if you can't see me, you can lighten it up. They got to put that ring light on you. You know, technology. That's what I need to carry with me. When people want to take a picture, I need to put the ring light on my face. That's a good idea. My kids be using that.

I like that. Aaron Owens asked, why is LT considered the defensive goal and not Reggie White? It's close for me, but I can make the case that LT is the greatest defensive player, the greatest player

in NFL history. I mean, with that. You know what's funny? I done sat with LT twice already. You seen the picture I posted on Twitter? Yeah. When I go watch my soccer games At Twin Peaks

And Pumperwood Pines Lawrence Taylor come up there every time In a goddamn golf cart with his three buddies I done sat I done sat with Lawrence Two days in a row Before I flew back to fly here I'm trying to

remember what year that was. But Ricky Jackson played with the Saints and LT. Man, I joined LT and Ricky Jackson so hard. Ocho, man, they came out there. You know, LT liked to wear flip-flops.

He had on shorts and flip-flops. Right, right. Ashy as a mofo. Man, I told LT he needs some, his feet were so ashy and ankles so ashy, I said, you need some just for men for them. Not lotion, that joke needs some just for men. But that'll ash up off him.

Man, they feel like laughing. You know, that's what I, I used to go, I mean, I be, I mean, now it's kind of hard for me to get back. But I used to just I mean now it's kind of hard for me to get back but I used to just go Jones just the whole time me me, Mike Irvin we were young

guys Mike was funny too? dude with me and Mike get together cause we might start off on somebody but inevitably it's coming back to me and him going at each other. It's always been like that. It's always

going to be like that. And you know time be hanging it on. You know when time used to go back, time hanging it on. See, a lot of them guys didn't know I was there. Time always knew. Time knew I always had this. But a lot of people didn't know so that's the first time they

seeing me Jonan oh that's what I do oh I'm oh yes oh I've got a PhD in Jonan oh yeah for sure but I missed I missed going back and seeing the guys because I don't I don't really see the guys like and even when I go back to like alumni function when we go back for the the guys because I don't really see the guys like, and even when I go back to like alumni function when we go back for the only time that I really get back is for the Super Bowl for the Broncos when, you know, the anniversary. Right. I light them up. I light them up, Ocho.

I had to get them. Alec Hurst said one game to win. Everyone in their prime. Unk with LeBron, Ocho with Jordan. But, really? We're going to beat the dog. Wait, who?

I don't care what it is. Basketball, shooting pool, table tennis, what's that called? Cornhole. I don't care. Listen, whatever it is we play, whatever it is, if me and Jordan are teaming up against you and LeBron or anything,

whatever it is we play, you are the liability and the reason y'all gonna lose. You can't dribble. You can't shoot. You can't play table tennis. You can't shoot no pool. You can't bowl.

Man, we would wipe you out and everything. Ojo, did you know I have my own cue? I got my own cue, too. You heard the Minnesota fans. They call you boy Georgia Slim. I beat him. I beat Fats. I beat Miss Sconey.

Willie Miss Sconey. I beat Steve Miserac. Boy, you better stop playing with me. Gertrude Hostetter. Vivian Bibberall. The Black Widow. Stop playing with me. Go ahead, man. Come on, man.

Hey, who you be again? Minnesota Fats. Willie Miss Scone. Steve Miserac. What they... What they... What's your name? What they call you?

George S. Liam. They got you'd they, what'd they, Jordan Slim? What's your name, what'd they call you? Jordan Slim. They got you, man, you better stop playing. But, hey, Ojo, you better stop with me. Ojo, we beat the brakes up, y'all. Hey. Man, trust me, they had nothing, nothing with me and Jordan team, bro. And table tennis.

I'm telling you who the liability is. Oh, I'm the fan of table tennis. Oh, I'm the, I'm, don't do that. I'm Roger Federer on table tennis. Now, right was a fan of table tennis. Oh, I was a fan. Don't do that. I'm Roger Federer on table tennis. Now, right there, I'm going to stop you right there. I'm going to stop you right there. One thing you're not going to do is you ain't going to sit here and put no lives like that. He on God's green earth about beating me in no table tennis, boy.

I was the Charles Hadley table tennis champ in 1985 all the way to goddamn 1999. Ain't lost to nobody in Liberty City. That's what I'm saying, Liberty City. Don't do that. Everybody the king of the saying, Liberty City. Don't do that. Everybody the king of the block in Liberty City. Nah, boy, I come from the home of true Hamiltonian champions. What did you talk about, man?

The Chinese wanted me to come play for them. Yeah. You talking about they wanted you to come play for them? They didn't want me to play. I told them no I couldn't I couldn't betray my country You better stop playing with me

Man don't do that man No that's Table tennis Don't do that man Don't do that Shooting pool Don't do it to yourself Cornhole

Don't do it Don't do it to yourself First of all I know you can't play no pool Cause you don't even know How many balls are on the table. That's first of all. You ain't know nothing about no eight ball. You ain't know nothing about no nine ball.

You ain't know nothing about no six ball. You ain't know nothing. So stop. You not beating me in any of these games you talking about. What happened to that yellow box you had back in the day with the sound? Used to see you in Columbia, South Carolina. Nah, bro, I ain't had no box Chevy.

You know, I had a pickup truck. Got a pickup truck. Then my sophomore year, my brother bought me a 300ZX with T-Tox. Called it Z-Forge. Then I got a 300 Mercedes. White. Peanut butter goods. Yeah, for sure.

For sure. You're looking like Frank Lucas. I had the most expensive car on the yard. Back then. Okay. Money making bitch. I had a brother in the NFL. He made sure the pockets had the mumps.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, I was pockets had the mumps. Yeah. I was right. They couldn't say nothing. Brother gave me like, he's like, hey, bro, I'll tell you what I do. I give you $200 for every touchdown. If you have, I give you $500

for every 100 yards. I go get $204 touchdown. You know what I'm saying? So guess what? Me and the missus for every hundred yards. I go get 204 touchdowns. Look at that. You know what I'm saying? So guess what? Me and the missus, we at the hotel.

We at the hotel on Friday, Saturday night. In our season, yeah. How many got, yeah. We go to the movie after eight. Pack your bag. I tell on Wiz to pack your bag Friday. I'm picking you up at five o'clock. Go to the hotel. You don't freshen up. You know I gotta

freshen up. Go to the movie. You don't do it. You know we're doing to mess the bed up before we leave. Go to the movie. You know what I'm saying? Or go get something to eat. Back then I could go to the movies. I could go get something to eat and go to the movies. I can't do that now.

I'd be asleep. I'd be asleep. You know what I'm saying, Ocho? You know, a hotel back then, one would fit it all. Fit it all. Yeah. Oh, listen, that's one. I told you that. I told you about the one in Miami off Ochoa for $30, right? I'm just saying

if any point you want to, you know, go in there and say, I ain't bringing nothing. I got to bring my own pillow and linen. I ain't. Oh, no, they got pillows. It's called the Executive Palace. Real nice room.

Disco ball. The La Quinta Inn where I lay up at, dock my head in the La Quinta. Yeah, the old La Quinta. The La Quinta Inn. I spend it all night. Okay. Okay. I spend like three, four dollars.

You know, by the time I get, you know, I get Friday night, Saturday night, go out to dinner, both of those nights, go to the movies, because I've always been a movie guy. I spent, you know, I spent $2,000, $2.50. Mm-hmm. Mm. Yeah. Mm. Hey, boy, hey. That's a lot.

Why you don't call me Big Bang Hank? I have brand like that. Yeah. Oh, yeah? I kept. I kept Oz on. Yeah, you be spinning, huh? I kept Lee Jeans.

I kept Calvin Klein. I kept Darksiders. You better stop it. You better ask him. Huh? Yeah, I just... I just... I was simple, man.

I had a white A-Rab from... A-Rab... I had an all-white A-Rab T-shirt, man, from the gas station. That's all I had, man. Charm ain't play. Sterling Charm ain't... My brother...

My brother's been wearing sweats to class, but he going to make show, baby, bro. Crease jeans, everything. Everything went to the drug. What? Clean. You clean. wearing sweats to class, but he going to make show baby, bro. Crease jeans, everything. Everything went to the dry. What? Clean, you clean. Everything went to the cleaners. Curry cleaners back in Savannah.

Ask them. I've been bringing my stuff in there since I was a junior in college. Ain't nothing. I ain't I ain't wearing nothing but drawers and t-shirts since a junior in college. I ain't do no I ain't. I ain't. I ain't. I ain't. I ain't. I ain't. I ain't. I ain't. I ain't. I ain't. I ain't. I ain't. I ain't. I ain't. I ain't. I ain't. I ain't. I ain't. I ain't. I ain't. I ain't. I ain't. I ain't. I ain't. I ain't. I ain't. I ain't. I ain't. I ain't. I ain't. I ain't. I ain't. I ain't. I ain't.

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I ain't. I ain't. I ain't. I ain't. I ain't. I ain't. I ain't be an old. Stars jeans?

Stars, a shirt, eyes out, dry clean. Yeah. Yeah. Every time. You know,

old lady, watch the underwear and stuff like that because, you know, back then, them guys be stealing your stuff. Yeah.

Try to steal my stuff, Ojo. Tell my dad, man, bro, stop it. There's no damn way you ain't got no eyes on. I'm the only one that got the striped eyes on.

Come on, bro. Yeah. Come on, baby. Come on, baby. Ish. Before y'all make me act a fool up in here. Patrick Woolery asks, Uncle Ocho, not trying to be too deep,

but in one word or a few sentences, how would you summarize your 2023? And what's the most important lesson that you guys have learned go ahead ocho actually summarize my 2023 man it's been it's been a blessing it's been a blessing for me um see obviously i've i've come a long way i've come a long way man and i would have never envisioned life for me to be where it is now. It's been good.

I'm thankful. Obviously, the kids are doing well. Those are in college. The missus is doing well. I mean, just everything is going really well. It's going really well. And I just obviously thankful for you as well for allowing me to have this opportunity to be on here on Sundays, Mondays, and Thursdays. I enjoy it.

It gives me an opportunity to talk and show another side of me at times. And then also my authentic and organic side as well. So my 2023 has been amazing. And I'm hoping that it carries right on over into 2024. Man, my 2023 has been more than amazing um even in my in my wildest dreams i didn't envision all of this um well first of all i didn't envision um the situation that happened at undisputed but you know my sister used to always tell me boy sometime god closes doors he he over He already has one already open. And he said, sometimes God will open a door that no man can close.

And sometimes he'll close a door that no man can open. She said, just be ready. My 2023 has been great. Because I'm in a position now that I can help other people. And that's what I'm trying to do is to build up

while giving people opportunities. Just like someone helped me, my job is to help someone else. 2023 has been amazing. And it's only going to get better. Like you said, we're going to, 2023 is ending with a bang,

but we're going to roll this thing right over to 2024. And we got a late start because Ocho, people don't realize this. We threw this thing together in a matter of days. Hey, Ocho, man, Ocho. Hey, I called Doug.

I've been knowing Doug since Doug. Doug, fresh out of college. That's how long I've known Doug. Doug was fresh out of college. Dad said, bro, bring your... He's supposed to be watching me. I'm looking for him. He on the dance floor.

I called Doug. I said, hey, Doug, man, check this out. I want to run something by Ocho. He's like, funny, man. Ocho already out. Ocho in Cali right now. Hey, you think we can do lunch? He's like, yeah.

I heat him up. Next day. Hey, bro bro i got this idea i'm thinking about doing x y and z he's like let's do it that's it that's how it happened i would love to tell you we had some elaborate that we were sitting down and we've been talking about this for months and months in two days we put this together and that's what's rocking so now and not no average no no sponsors and no not a whole lot of ads but now after people seeing what we do they're like okay we want to be a part of that and we welcome the opportunity for someone to be a part of what we have growing. And so 2023 has been great. 2024 is going to be even better.

All glory be to God, because without him, none of this is possible. And without you guys, because you make it possible and you make it worthwhile. So thank you, because a lot of you guys remember me from first take. And you follow me to ESPN. You follow me to Club Shea Shea. You follow me to Okinocho. And so we really, really appreciate what you guys have done for us. Eduardo Tapia asked, who wins a mile race between you two? Eduardo, I only lie to you, bro. If I'm doing anything besides walking, somebody chasing me.

And I promise you, if they chasing me, I'm doing like this here. Pow! Pow! Pow! Pow! Yeah, yeah. My running day is over. Ain't no more running for me, Ocho. I'm still running. I'm still running. I'm still running.

That's all I got. When he too bad, when he too repaired him, the doctor I'm still running I'm still running all the time we need two repaired hips the doctors say these hips will last you a long time Mr. Sharp if you don't run I say I ain't ran before I got them I damn sure ain't gonna run after I got them so it's a brisk walk for you boy

thank you Uncle Nocho for the podcast football laughs it's been helping me during these times with my mom going through cramps and treatment. Well, Alicia, keep your head up. Stay prayed up. Yeah. Hopefully it turns out well for your mom.

Mom, get well soon. Uncle Nocho, we're praying for you. And everybody out there, send a prayer out to Alicia for what her and her mom is going through right now. Mark Boo says, Unk, I got to tell you, last year was one of the toughest years for me. I'm only 27 years old. Being able to watch you on Undisputed every day helped me like no other. Shannon, you brought me to the light. Bro, I really appreciate that.

Mark, I appreciate your support. You guys have supported me from the jump. I really didn't know what to expect. I really didn't Mark I appreciate your support you guys have supported me from the jump I really didn't know what to explain I really didn't know how TV worked I didn't understand you know ratings and I didn't know am I going to be received because I was going with somebody that's the godfather of that

of that that format Skip kind of started Skip started that. So give him his credit. So I knew what I was up against, but people are like, well, can he do it?

They remember sports reporters, and they remember around the horn, and they remember all that. All those guys are journalists. Man, how's a former NFL player going to talk about basketball? How's he going to talk about baseball? how's he going to talk about track and field how's he going to talk about social issues

I'll show you I'll show you and yeah with the work Ocho if you put the work in you can get incrementally better and that was what I wanted to do. I didn't want to be... Anything is possible.

I didn't want to be a football guy that was talking basketball. I wanted to be a guy talking basketball. I wanted to be a guy that was talking sports. And you didn't know, you would have never known I didn't play that sport.

You put the work in, you put the time in, you become a student of the game. You don't know what you don't know. Pay attention, listen, you see, okay, see that? Okay, that's what that's called? That's called a pin down, okay? That's called a flare. Oh, okay. That's called a one-foot.

Oh, that's one eye. Oh, down. Okay. Let's call a flare. Oh, okay. Let's call a one. Oh, that's one. Oh, okay. Okay. Boom. Next thing, you know, it's second nature to you.

Football was second nature. Hey, look, I know cover one. I know Lurt, Robber. I know everything. Cover five,

cover four, cover six, kick, you know, I know a cover, a quarters. I get all that. I know it.

I know fronts over under shade hill cop nine wide nine seven five shade three get all that ocho get it but how do you get better at what you don't know because it's easy to talk about what you do know. Guys. That was the guy that said. How much? Oh, yeah. Please subscribe to our channel and drop us a review on Apple Podcast.

Thank you. Thank you. Thank you for clicking that like button. please make sure you hit that subscribe button how many people we had we had 17 000 i think we got up to a high of 20 tonight we got a high uh got up to a high of 20. ocho did you know that yeah yes yes sir look today what i'm doing right, what I did today is, is I got the chat going, right? I got my phone open and I put it on top of my computer. So I'm reading the chat at the same time and I've seen the...

That's a whole lot of people, man. 17,000, you know, reaching 20 at its peak. Man, that's good, man. Like that's really good. That's really good. I ain't really never been on no platform like this before. Ocho, we got four more minutes. We gonna make it to two hours a night, and then I gotta go to bed, man.

I mean, Ocho, I gotta get up in the morning. You gotta work. In the morning for what? Okay. I gotta work, too. Oh, okay. Check this out, Ocho. Uncle Ocho, need your advice, please.

I recently graduated from Florida State. Go Seminoles. My daughter graduated from Florida State also, my youngest. And I got a good paying job, but decided to move back

with my parents in order to save money. How do I date a woman at least... How do I date women living at least how do i date women living at home i don't know wait wait hold on hold on hold on hold on hold on hold on hold on your priorities all messed up you you think about what you just said you went back home with your parents to save money but you want to spend money to date women.

Now, I can see it. It's backwards. When you say women, I thought he had a woman. That still is backwards. First of all, I'm just trying, because you're going to have to spend money. You can't bring no woman into your parents' home that you're not married to. Man, focus on that money, man. The women are going to be Man. Focus on that money, man. The women going to be there.

Focus on your money. Get your money right. Get your money right. Get your situation right. Worry about the women later, man. Don't do that. You'll lose money chasing women. You'll never lose a woman chasing money.

Now, the thing is now, if I'm reading this correctly, I don't know how you bring a woman. So now you're going to have to get a hotel. Every time that you want to be intimate with this woman, you're going to need to get a hotel. Now, I understand the friggin' stuff. You know, you get the car. We all do

little car here and there. You know, I park in the driveway and do it. You know, make it look like a hydraulic. You know, it's dropping up and down. You know what I'm saying, Ocho? You know what I'm talking about, Ocho. Ain't nothing wrong with that. This my yard.

Y'all ain't got no business worrying about what's going on in my yard. It's private property. But I don't know how you're going to pull that off, you living at home. I get it. I get it. But like you said, Ocho, man, if you're trying to save money, the last thing on your mind should be women. Think about

how the first thing he asked, I move back home so I can save money. So save money and date women doesn't even go hand in hand. It makes no sense. It makes no sense at all.

Let's focus on what's important. Yeah. The saving money part. And the only way you're going to do it is locking in and having a little structure and a little discipline and understanding

the women are going to always be there, man. Ochoa, when he's going to graduate, Ochoa, you know, they be calling you. They be calling you talking about coming back to these streets. Nah. Nah.

Nah, nah. It ain't nothing in them streets. No more. Ain come back to these streets. Nah. Nah. Nah, nah. It ain't nothing in them streets. No more. Ain't nothing in them streets. But Ocho, man, you remember when you was 22, 23? Man, I was locked in, man. You know what I'm saying, Ocho? Man.

But, man, I just... I'm not going to... Let me knock on the door. Man, I just, I'm not going to, let me knock on the door. Man, Ocho, that I didn't come, that I wasn't in my 20s or my 30s with social media or I wasn't a teenager. Right. It wasn't for me, Ocho. It ain't for me. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. it wasn't for me Ocho it ain't for me yeah yeah

yeah yeah man that's what you mean man it's different it's a different world it's a it's a different world and I'm glad I have

the discipline I do now yeah I like that part real been a lifesaver for you. Because man, you know Ocho. Ocho to be in the street.

Ocho to be in the street. Ocho, we had another podcast in the streets called In the Streets. Man, listen. Yeah. That's exactly

where we would have been at. In the streets. But I needed, I needed, listen, we all, we all I needed I needed Listen We all We all need it man We all need a little structure and discipline And ain't nobody

Ain't nobody better for you in your life That can give you a little structure and discipline And a little guidance than a woman Right one The right one The right one Yeah man That shit does wonders

It's funny It's funny how life turned around She came into life For some reason I don't think it was around. She came into life for some reason. I don't think it was a coincidence. She came into life, man. Shit. I'm all over the place now.

I'm here. I'm there. I look up. There go a billboard there. Well, goddamn. I'm watching TV with her. Oh, shit. There go a commercial there.

I mean, shit. It's not. It ain't accident. It ain't no accident. That ain't number favor. He working. God working. He working on't number favor. He working. God working. He working on me too.

He working. See, I know you looking for me to say something smart with your... I ain't like that no more. I'm changed. I'm saved. Yeah. Me and you both.

Well, listen, I got baptized. It's wearing off. So I need... I'm ready for another one. Yeah, it's I got baptized. It's wearing off, so I'm ready for another one. Yeah, it's wearing off, though. But I think I was in a different type of water than what you was in. Her name was Niagara.

Niagara Falls, that is. Yeah. Yeah, I need to stop getting baptized. Yeah. But I'm happy for you, Ocho. I'm happy for you, Ocho. You don't want that kind of... Yeah, I appreciate it. Appreciate it.

It's been a long journey. It's been a long climb. Back up. Yeah. It's always enough of us. 23 has been great. God has been good. 24?

Your boy Shayshaw about to be out the door. Your boy going to be out like a scout on a new route. I'm gone. 24 going to be beautiful, man. It's going to be beautiful. Yeah. It's going to be beautiful. It's gonna be beautiful Yeah

It's gonna be beautiful You know Right around the corner Yeah About four weeks What three weeks Yeah It's over to the 10th

To the 12th right Yeah What you doing for New Year's You know I'm in the Bahamas For Junkanoo Where you at Where you gonna be

Where you Where you gonna be at You know I'm always in the Bahamas For New Year's For Junkanoo The Junkanoo. Where you at? Where you going to be at? You know, I'm always in the Bahamas for New Year's for Junkanoo. The Junkanoo parade. I don't know. Man, man. Where you going to be at when the ball drops? You know.

You know. I've been trying to shake the cover full dark. No, I normally sleep, man. Man, you ain't going to watch the ball drop? I said, I'm normally asleep, man. They be like, man, you ain't gonna watch the ball drop? I say, I'm gonna watch my eyelids drop on my eyeballs. That's the only balls I'm gonna watch drop. The eyelids on them. Man, I be going to bed, don't you?

I gotta get up in the morning. When is New Year's? Is that a weekend? It's on Sunday, matter of fact, because I gotta be... Sunday night? I gotta go to work on Monday. I can't stay up watching,

midnight. Like, I got to, I got to fly to Philly Monday for the show. I got to go, man, I got to go to bed.

See, Ocho, I was thinking, when I moved to California, I thought that the ball would drop on the East Coast, so at nine o'clock,

they was like nah you gotta stay up till midnight here I said midnight and I gotta be up at 3 o'clock I said y'all must be out there or am I man they come up man you wanna go I said no no uh uh I thought it was gonna be 9 o'clock I was like okay yeah I went up till 9 they was like nah

I said on the east coast it's already midnight. But you're going to tell me I got to wait until 12 and I got to get back up at three? Y'all, my... It ain't going to ever happen. It ain't happening. Guys, thank you for watching us and watching another episode of

Club Shazer Nightcap. Everyone commenting on LaPortier is hitting good. I ain't drunk yet, but I ain't got about 10 steps to take before I crash in the bed so if I don't make it to work tomorrow I'm going to make it to work

that's one thing I'm always going to be professional as a matter of fact I'm going to sit all three I'm going to sit both of my phones and my alarm clock make sure I get up I'm going to crash the set one day you know what I'm saying and clock. Make sure I get up. I'm going to crash the set one day. Don't get your bottle at right there. You know what, don't you? I'm going to send you

a bottle. I'm going to send you a real. I'm going to send you a bottle. You a real. Yeah, send her a bottle. We pinned the link, LaPortier link, at the top. Shade by LaPortier. Make sure you go out and get you a bottle for you or a loved one with the holidays right around the corner.

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