Nightcap - Nightcap - Unc & Ocho react to Dak & Cowboys dominating Commanders, 49ers class of NFC, Teyana-Iman drama

Episode Date: November 24, 2023

On a Thanksgiving episode of Nightcap, Shannon Sharpe & Chad "Ochocinco" Johnson react to Brock Purdy & the San Francisco 49ers taking on Geno Smith and the Seattle Seahawks (6:15), Dak Prescott's monster game in the Dallas Cowboys win over the Washington Commanders (14:15), Jordan Love leading the Green Bay Packers over Jared Goff and the Detroit Lions (43:15), Jim Irsay's controversial comments (55:30), Teyana Taylor fling for divorce from Iman Shumpert (01:16:00) and much much more! (Timestamps may vary based on advertisements.) #Club #Volume #HerdSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Green Bay was very, very impressive. We're going to get to them a little later. But let's talk about the Seahawks and the 49ers. They went out there, the 49ers did, got the ball, goes right down the field, scored a touchdown, and they didn't look back. So what was some of your takeaways from this ballgame? All right, my first takeaway, forget stats,

forget what the 49ers did today as a whole as far as the game is concerned. The 49ers team collectively is almost unfair when everybody is healthy. Debo, IU, Trent Williams, then on defense, that's secondary, Jadavious Ward. Everything else they got going on, they had everybody

in goddamn clamps. And to me, in comparison for me, I'm not even a basketball fan but i remember hearing all the gripes about people let's say uh comparison to the golden state warriors when they had kevin durant where it was almost fair from obviously now from an offensive standpoint but also the defense and just as good so when you think about the 49ers for me specifically when i think about the 49ers every team in the NFL has an identity either your offense is great or your defense is great it's never both but when it comes to the goddamn 49ers on both sides of the ball they are equally as yoked and it's almost unfair if they don't win the Super Bowl this year then something is wrong they look

they look really good they really man Purdy obviously you said he was 21 for 30 for 29 yards he had a td uh unfortunate unfortunate interception yeah debo samuels was an animal man yeah he was the animal today and picked up where he left off as he obviously he's been back a few games due to injury that he had i don't like the fact they didn't use brandon iuk enough enough today and uh he was he was kind of left out. He had a touchdown. I like to consider that. I call that garbage time.

I consider that garbage time. Other than that, man, that's crazy. I don't even know what to say about the 49ers because I see no weakness in that team unless people are injured. When people are injured, then it doesn't look too good. It doesn't fare off as well as it does when everybody is healthy. Well, you know that the great equalizer come playoff time is injuries or turnovers. And as long as they take care of them, and the game probably got a little closer than what it should have been,

considering that they had that pick six right at the midway through the third quarter. And, you know, see how to miss the field goal right before the half. That really hurt them. But when you look at the 49ers, the field goal right before the half. Yeah. That really hurt him. But when you look at the 49ers, the way they can run the football now with Christian McCaffrey, you mentioned Debo, George Kittle, Brandon Ayuk, C-Mac in the passing game, Debo, offensive line is solid. Yeah.

And when Purdy plays like this this because the thing is with him and if you watch him you've got to make him uncomfortable you've got to make him make every throw every possession matter if you let him get out and he can relax because man that throw to Ayuk with that half roll and throw back that deep bang

man Ocho that was nice you can't walk a ball better to a player than what he did from 25 yards away that was that was that semi roll that was an unbelievable throw great catch get the ball into the end zone but you're right i thought i thought uh kyle shanahan did a great job of calling the game run sprinkle in christian mccaffrey on the arrow route out of the backfield. Run some more. Hey, we're going to talk to the Debo. The 49ers went in there, and that's what you do on a short week

against a division opponent. You go in, you get them down early, you take care of business, and now we don't play for 10 days. So guess what? You're off. I understand you probably was away from your families on Thanksgiving. But guess what? You got Friday, Saturday, and Sundayay off ocho oh yeah so you're probably gonna have thanksgiving

most of these players will probably have thanksgiving tomorrow when they get home tomorrow yeah but guess what now hey baby hey i got two days off i'll see y'all monday kyle probably have to do it like mike you'll probably come in monday by, get your run in, get your lift in, watch the tape. Hey, we're getting ready, getting ready for next week. Listen, they ready. They ready. And they deserve it. They deserve. They deserve to have those days off. The defense, the defense have what they had six sacks tonight. Yeah. Both again, two sacks. I mean, with their hard way. And I just yeah. Hard, great, hard grave as well.

What they're doing on both sides of the ball is commendable. It's commendable. And most of the time I've seen Shanahan continuously, continuously have great success in the offseason. Great success. I mean, offseason, great success in season. But come playoff time, can they still keep this momentum going where both sides of the ball, they're playing exceptionally well. And you mentioned about making Brock Purdy uncomfortable. But when I watch him in the pocket, he looks so relaxed. He looks so poised. He looks like someone that belongs there, and he's been doing it for a very long time. So the rush doesn't faze him. The blitzing doesn't faze him. And he always has those outlets for him to make sure they stay efficient offensively.

Yeah, they look good. They look good. And that's what you want to see. I think right now, I think it's the Eagles. When you really look at it, we'll talk about this after we get through, but the Eagles and the 49ers

and followed by the Cowboys seem to be the cream of the crop in the NFC. Ah, give that. It seems to be the cream of the crop right now. The Eagles, they haven't been as dominating as they were last year. But all I know, Ocho, is they find a way to win the ballgames. And at the end of the day, when you don't play your best football

and you still find ways to win, as long as you're not making the mistakes, because that's what's – hey, look, we're not running the football as well. We're not – but as long as you're not turning it over, you could, hey, a block here, a missed block. Hey, we get this block. We got to, instead of a five-yard run, we got a 25-yard run. Instead of a 14-yard run, we got a 20-yard touchdown. Those are things that you can overcome.

But I like the way they're playing. But the 49ers, the 49ers look really impressive today. The Cowboys dominate the Commanders, 45-10. Dak Prescott, 22-32, 3-31, four touchdowns. Clean game, no turnovers. Touchdown, the CD Lamb, Brandon Cooks, Rico Didel, Kavante Turpin. Cowboys are now 8-3, won five of the last six. Let me take Dak.

Dak started the game. When he hit Ferguson against that Tampa 2, you can't throw a ball better than that over the middle to start the game. I mean, all Ferguson did was he's thinking, stop.

See, Ocho, see, man, come on. That's where he leads. Come on now. Come on. You know good. Come on. Let's have a look. I understand you want to troll a little bit, but let's have a real conversation. I'm an elite. Come on now. Come on. You know good. Come on. Let's have a look. I understand you want to troll a little bit, but let's have a real conversation. I'm not a troll. So you're saying Dak is elite? You know goddamn well he's elite.

Didn't you just talk about that throw he just made? So I've seen Tim Tebow make throws. Hold on. Stop it. Stop it. So Tim Tebow, you said a throw. Don't you do that. You said a throw make you elite. You just mentioned a throw that Dak made that only the elite quarterback

can do consistently. Let's stay on target. What are we talking about? Have you seen him make that throw consistently? Have you seen him go deep into the playoffs consistently? Have you not seen him lead the league in interception consistently? We talking about the day. That's the pass, right? We talking about the pass. I right we talk about the past that's not what you're saying we talk about the game today

phenomenal game yes but you didn't let me do what you wanted to do you want to try to troll so i gotta take it now because i want to make sure you give dak his flowers i'm gonna make sure you give it to him today bro are you listening ocho instead of trying to get the fan i understand you want to get the people on your side but i said that can play well they're on my side regardless i know and i know you like that i like that too i like when they cheer for you that means they're gonna come to nightcap because we're gonna give them him something to laugh and talk about. That 22-32, 3-31, four touchdowns. Clean game. Clean game.

Clean. You can't play much better than what he played. I saw one throw got away from him and he did immediately. My bad, B. Cooks. My bad. I legend that one. I could have put that one on you. Clean game. Cowboys 8-3. Look, they played the Giants twice. We know what the Giants did. We know look they played the giants twice we know what the

giants here we know what the commanders are we know what the the patriots but the thing that i like the best about what the cowboys are doing when they're playing these teams that they're better than and they should be they're dominating them it's not a close ball game see you beat you beat washington 17 20 you beat was Washington 23 20 when you're so much better talent wise now I'm like hold on what's going on but when you beat a team 45 10 you beat a team 40 to nothing you beat a team like they're beating them it says that you know what guys they're peaking they're rounding into shape and I know it's against inferior competition but what I want to do is to see you guys get going

now is go time inferior? what do you mean inferior competition? the Giants Ocho stop this Ocho you know damn well all teams aren't created equal stop saying that this the NFL alright

I could have swore the other 53 dudes on the other side of the team regardless of who they were playing for were getting paid millions of dollars to play a goddamn game. So in other words, by your estimation, every quarterback in the NFL is Patrick Mahomes because all the quarterbacks get paid. All the defensive linemen are Joey Bosa and Michael Parsons. So what are you saying?

But I'm saying it's the NFL. It's the best of the best. It's the goddamn 1% of the game. So to call that team inferior just because they're losing or they're below 500, then the Cowboys... So all teams, players are equal, top to bottom. Now you just told me the 49ers. You just told me

the 49ers. I don't see how they lose. When you name all those defensive players. when you name all those offensive players. The makeup of the players on the team is what makes them that goddamn great. So the makeup of the Giants. Are the makeup of the Giants like that? Are the makeup like the Patriots like that? Are the makeup like the Commanders like that?

Why not? You just said it. So what is it? I need you to make up your mind. You got to pick a side now because you keep jumping in and over the fence. I'm not jumping over the fence. I'm just telling you it's the elite of the elite. It's the best of the best. And I just don't like the inferior comment because they are still

professional players playing at the highest level. They are the 1% in the world. Are there not levels? So all professionals are equal. So everybody in the NBA is LeBron James because they're in the NBA. No, that's an individual. Individual. So every team in the NBA at the time was the Golden State Warriors.

Every team in the NBA was the Chicago Bulls or the Los Angeles Lakers because they're in the NBA. No. I see where you're going with it, but you they're in the NBA. No. I see where you're going with it, but you understand what I'm saying. No, I don't. I don't like using the word inferior when it comes to an opponent that is also a team that is not well-constructed to compete against the better teams.

I like that better. I don't like the word inferior. A team that is not constructed to the magnitude of the Cowboys having to lose because the Cowboys have the better teams. I like that better. I don't like the word inferior. A team that is not constructed to the magnitude of the Cowboys having to lose because the Cowboys have the better players. I like that better.

I don't like the word inferior. It makes it sound like they don't even belong in the NFL. How did you deduce that? I'm just telling you I don't like your wordplay. I didn't like your wordplay on discussing the fact

that a team that are below 500 that the Cowboys have been able to beat. That's all. That's all. But you can continue. That's all. I just don't like your wordplay on discussing the fact that a team that are below 500, the Cowboys have been able to beat. That's all. That's all. But you can continue. That's all. I just don't like the word inferior. So what would it turn?

It makes them feel less than none to me. No, Ocho. Ocho. Yes, sir. All teams aren't created equal. Although you're in the NFL, there's a reason. They're starters. They're backups.

They're special teams players. A lot of times the guys on the special teams and i started out on special teams i wasn't to the level that i needed to be to become a starter once i became a starter that meant my play went up and i was able to be a starter everybody everybody isn't on that level even though you're a starter that doesn't mean i was a starting tight end but there are tight ends on other teams that wasn't the equivalent or there's quarterbacks that wasn't the equivalent of a start over patrick mahomes or even a dac prescott but what i'm saying is is that just because a team is constructed of 53 and now i think they have 20 uh uh uh uh practice squad guys

it's not the same that That's all I'm saying. I get what you're saying. You're saying, well, you're saying that because you used the term inferior, I'm making it seem like guys don't belong. No, they belong. You belong because you know the NFL ain't no charity case. Can you help us win?

Can you help us win now or do we believe you can help us win down the road? That now or do we believe you can help us win down the road right that's how you get on a roster they've got to see something like you know what he might be a year away but i think if i keep him in the system i think this kid can be good yeah so when i use the term no it's not it's not a knock to say oh this guy doesn't belong in the league you're in the league. You belong. Now, there have been some guys that's kind of stolen over here years,

but that's neither here nor there. But I'm just looking at the teams that they beat and how they've beaten them. That's what I'm looking at. Look, like I said, it's not so much, Ocho, that you win the game, but how did you look in winning the game? Yeah. Go ahead. go ahead I have I know you want to I know you want to I know you want to give this big bouquet of flowers to the Cowboys take off with it I said the deck I said the deck that's all I said the deck because

the defense is going to do what the defense has been doing obviously there have been some trip ups there haven't been some games where they have fallen and that's that was my next question to you I want to ask you a question okay what do you think about the teams, right? We talk about the domination of the Cowboys. And most of the team that they dominated and played extremely well against have been teams below 500 or maybe right at 500. And the team that have winning records,

they haven't been able to beat. So I want to know, what is the next step for the Cowboys and what do they need to do to beat the team that are above 500 that they should win, which is similar to playoff games, which they're going to have to face in about three or four more weeks. Two of the teams that they beat, what do they have?

Outstanding offensive lines. You look at the 49ers, you look at the Eagles. They lost to the Cardinals, had a couple of bad plays. The Cardinals played well above what we've seen them play with Joshua Dobbs, Joshua Dobbs. And we've seen Joshua Dobbs go to Minnesota and win a couple of games, get hot and win some games. The thing is,

is that what they were able, what Philly was able to do, the 49ers was able to do was to lock up that offensive line and not let continuous pressure, not let sacks get the purdy, not only get the Jalen hurts. And on the flip side, what were they able to do? Get the Dak Prescott Eagles. Right. And, and the Purdy, not get the Jalen Hurts. And on the flip side, what were they able to do?

Get the Dak Prescott, Eagles, and the 49ers. So you've got to be able to block their front. You've got to. If you can't block that front, you can't beat them. And you've got to get Dak off that spot. Now, Dak has done a great job. Dak has used his legs. Mike McCarthy's done a great job calling the game.

He's moving them out of the pocket a lot more. He's asking him, hey, bro, if it's not their takeoff, we've got to put more pressure on the defense because the last year and a half, people don't think you run anymore. They don't think you're the way. And I thought he looked lumbersome some of the time when he's taken off.

But over the last couple of weeks, Dak has looked good running the football. He looked like he did pre-injury before he broke that ankle. But that's what you got to do against the Cowboys. You got to find a way to neutralize their pressure, but you got to be able to get pressure.

What, the 49ers could run the football? Eagles ran the football somewhat, but it's hard to really say Ocho when you're dealing with a division opponent. And that's why I give Cowboys credit also, because of the division opponent no matter how bad they are they usually give you a little fight and they gave him a little

fight for a little while but you see the talent level just rise to the top and you see they take off against the Giants you see them take off against the commanders and that's what you're supposed to do but the Cowboys look the Eagles to do what they did to go in there and basically be down the

entire game and arrowhead and find a way to win that game you saw the 49ers go on the road against a division opponent in a short week and dominate that game you see the cowboys although they come home haven't trailed the entire season they've been tied but they haven't trailed the entire season man that a those are the three best teams and i think right now after watching detroit to play and we're going to get into that game a little bit they're head and shoulders it's like eagles i would have eagles a 49ers cowboys and then down you go detroit you know go other teams like that but right now the eagles cowboys and the 49ers up here and no one else in the nfc is close to those teams what you think i like it i like i

mean you're right you're right you're right you're just curious i was just trying to think of what would be the next step for the cowboys they play so they play exceptionally well in season and they obviously in the first round they they obviously they falter you know things go wrong they don't go the way they should as opposed to how they do like right now and all i think about is all the time people continuously harping and harping and harping and harping and always saying you know what this is our year this is this is our year this is our year and this is one of the years now that i'm doing stuff like this and shows like this with you.

Now I'm paying attention to everything. I'm paying attention to all teams, not just the damn Dolphins and the Bengals, obviously, where I played and obviously where I grew up. Now I'm locked in on everybody. I'm like, oh, shit. Right. This is good. Now I'm actually focusing on Dak. I'm actually watching.

Well, I always watch all the receivers, but now I'm watching the totality of all games, offensively and defensively. And so I'm like, you know what? The way they look look right now how in the hell they should win a goddamn Super Bowl I'm just the way I'm looking at the landscape everything to this point if you keep this up obviously the season it's not a sprint it's a marathon and you got to peak at the right time the way they goddamn playing right now I'm thinking after looking at looking statistically the team that they beat and demolished have been below 500 so i was just curious what your answer would be on what do they need to do to beat those teams that are good like the eagles yeah the team that they will face

in the nfc they get the eagles again in their building i think they got buffalo in their building so we'll find out a little bit more about the Cowboys at this point. Ocho. Look, we've seen Dak Prescott win a rookie of the year. We've seen him have great regular season. Now he's only going to be measured by the success or non-success that he has in the post season.

Right. I don't care if Dak throws for 5,000 yards. Now he's got to go far in the playoffs because that's what he's up against. Because what he's measured against is the other great quarterbacks that have won in Dallas. The other great quarterbacks that are playing currently. So, if you think about it, there's only a handful. I think it's Mahomes and Rodgers are the only quarterbacks to have MVPs. I think it's my homes and Rogers are the only ones that have Super Bowl.

Am I correct? Oh, Jerry. No, Jerry Goff didn't win. Matthew Stafford won. So there's only like two or three quarterbacks that have MVPs and Super Bowls that are active, that are active. So it's crazy. Just imagine now it's going to change because they're not, listen,

at the end of the day, you can say that defense, and they're only going to go as far as Mike on that defense, Dak's going to have to play well in order for them to win a Super Bowl or to win playoff games in order to get to the Super Bowl. And I'm not saying he has to go 22 or 32 for 331 and four touchdowns, but he's going to have to play well because in a lot of games in the postseason, he hasn't played well. The last two years against the 49ers, he didn't play well.

That year they came out here to the Coliseum and played the Rams. He didn't play well. He went to his rookie year and I, okay, you chalk that up, but we saw him go to Lambeau, do a demolition job. And when they came, came home, had the division ground there, and we saw him go to Lambeau, do a demolition job. And when they came, came home, had the division ground there. And we saw what happened. So he's only going to be measured by he's, he's past the point of regular season.

He's at the point now. Okay. Now, Dak. Okay. Show me what you got. Show me what you got in the post season. That's how he's going to be measured. And rightfully so check this out.

The Ron bland. I haven't seen anything like this. Hey boy, NFL single season record for interception returns for a touchdown. rightfully so. Check this out. Deron Bland. I haven't seen anything like this. Hey, boy. NFL single season record for interception returns for a touchdown. He got his fifth pick six touchdown. Ocho, we've seen guys. We've seen

guys that, man, if he'd have held on to that, that would have been a pick six. Oh, he'd have went to the house. He ain't missing. He ain't dropping nothing. And the funny thing about it is this i want people to understand how elite and how great this is what deron bland is doing the game of football offensively is all about timing yes router time you have to be able to either gamble or either guess right or be extremely great at your technique, reading your keys, using your eyes, knowing when to break, having film studies,

studying enough film to know what's coming in front of you to be able to get a, be able to be two steps ahead of the offense and knowing what's coming based on down a distance, based on alignment, stuff like that. Dude, I went back and watched all the, all the picks. This is lined up, literal coverage, and making a break on the ball and going the other way with it.

There ain't no tip balls. Oh, it's a ball in the air. He is literally locking up, reading his keys, making a break on the ball, and going to the house. It's unbelievable. Ocho, the ball is on the out. A lot of them have been out routes.

The ball is a tad behind. A bit behind, that's all you need. And you know all the out route, Ocho, that's going to the house if you're behind now. You better throw that ball so either he catch it or it's incomplete out of bounds. Incomplete out of bounds, yeah. Because if you miss, he's on his hip now. Oh, yeah.

The question is, can he hold on to it? And he hadn't missed. Because last week he got one against Carolina. The dude intercepted the ball, did a somersault, got up off the ground and ran it back for a touchdown. But do you understand how good you got to be? Because here's the thing. I can only get a pick if they throw the ball my way.

Yeah. They keep testing him. They keep testing him. Yes. I mean, the dude has more pick sixes than a lot of your top receiver has touchdown catches. Yeah. Ocho.

That's crazy. I mean, when I think of top DBs, I'm not thinking of him. But he has to be in the defensive player to your conversation. With those, how do you overlook him, Ocho? You can't because he's done something there there have been many players some of the some of the greats that have played in this game the head of have a total of even hall of famers have a total of six or five pick sixes throughout their career yeah career he's done it in a season alone he's at five right now right

oh you can't if you play if you play the video game you play madden if you played madden for 17 weeks and you had a complete season you can't get five interceptments on the goddamn video game let alone thinking about doing it in real life right that's how good that's how amazing what he's done the feat that he's reached and accomplished this season is crazy but you know it's a lack of respect for him because i mean time would go games they wouldn't even throw the ball his way reavers would go game they wouldn't throw his way champ bailey rod wilson some of the greats but you're they're underestimating this guy he's only in his second year and so they're like oh we're gonna test him

we ain't gonna mess with stephanie gilmore who was a former defensive player of the year oh we ain't gonna mess with him. Okay. Pretty soon he's going to – pretty soon. Now what you do, and the funny thing about it, this is a great thing for them going into the postseason. Yeah, oh, yeah. This is a great thing going into the postseason because now what you're scared – you ain't throwing Gilmore's way, but goddamn, we know if we throw him bland side, you know what?

There's a chance it might get picked. But I know what teams are probably going to do because you're not going to face receivers that are that goddamn shifty that can actually, I call it getting open on the muscle, where you don't need the offensive coordinator's help. Yeah. You don't need them to scheme you. I need to go beat you.

Yeah, you don't have to scheme you up. They're going to condense the splits, condense the splits and force him to back up and find ways. You got to use motion, do all type of tricks, be able to throw the ball in the Cowboys. You got to be able to do something because right now, what he's done to this point is crazy. It's so – listen, I'm so amazed at what he's done so far.

I had to send him a tweet. I sent Derron Bland a tweet. I said, man, listen, man, young fella, when the offseason comes, we got to line that shit up because I want to see what that shit – I want to see what that shit like. That's how good it is. But if you think about it, from the looksseason comes, we got to line that shit up. Because I want to see what that shit like. That's how good it is. But if you think about it, from the looks of it, he don't look like he's not a press corner.

He's off. Yeah. Yeah. But you missed. To me, and you can attest to this being a receiver, it's much easier when you got a dude off. To me, all you got to do is run, step on his toes, and beat him out of transition and make a play on the ball. And he's to do it off to me all you got to do is run step on his toes and beat him out of transition and make a play on the ball because he's still he's still picking it off he

guessing he don't know what i'm got i know what i got because i can run the speed out i can run the end i can run the i can run the dig i can run the goal i can run the bang hey now i understand i understand he he's trying to guess formation wise okay okay this formation this down in distance this area of the field they like to do this but I'm studying tape looking at his looking at where he's positioned oh okay he's positioned like this you

try to take that bang away oh okay I think I can run the eye hey this is how he played he played me heavy inside so it's gonna be hard for me to get inside. Hey, we're going to do some things now. You're not just going to sit and just drive on the out route now. That ain't going to happen.

Yeah, I've watched some of his tape, and he reminds me of his transition is so quick. His feet are so quick. His hips are really, really good. He reminds me of Asante Samuel. Yeah. Asante Samuel and that T-step. I mean, Asante, I'm looking at Daron. I'm looking at Asante, the way

they play the game. Those first three steps of the receiver off the ball, he ain't even looking at the receiver. He's looking at the quarterback. Boom. He get eyes back on the receiver and he done took his three steps and he's settling.

Because every right out of the scene where he done picked the ball, the receiver, and he done took his three steps, and he's settling. He's settling because every run out of the scene where he done picked the ball, the receiver is giving away indicators, oh, I'm getting ready to break. Or they're raising to get up out the out route. Even though the ball is behind, he reading his keys, the goddamn receiver is giving everything away. Everything away. I don't mean to get into the technical stuff aspect of it,

but the thing is ocho they take the ball in the shotgun snap and the quarterback going three steps well which is like it's like a five or seven step drop but he's already in the gun so he's not doing conventional up under the center taking that deep seven step drop so he's in the gun he's only taking a couple of bounces back so he's like okay the ball finna come out yeah if you're a quarterback and you stop that means you're getting ready to throw the football throw the ball so why am i gonna keep backpedaling and you've already stopped your drop yeah it's just it's just it's just it's just common sense i see the way you angle i see the

way you angle okay you you're getting ready to break on something i gotta step on your toes and then i got i got i got to stack you because yeah i can't let you i just can't let you run me and push me to the side because that's where a lot of receivers make the mistake oh joe they run the go route and instead of stacking him putting him in a trail position you let him run beside you and all he's gonna do is just put listen and then say you know your quarterback gotta throw it listen perfect you gotta throw a perfect ball because the sideline is that the sideline is side, all he's going to do is just put and then say, you know, your quarterback got to throw it. Listen, perfect. You got to throw a perfect ball because the sideline is that the sideline is his best friend.

That's another defender. It is. You got you got to get into him. Everybody, everybody trying to use speed. They trying to just widen the release and get out. All they're doing is ride him, stand right on the hip and most and those that can play the ball, they look back and those that can't, they just play the hands. Nope. I'm trying to put you. I'm trying to stack you and

put you in a trail position. So now, the quarterback don't have this little spot right here. No, he got all this, all this, all this because you're in a trail position. You're behind me. But, you know, like you said, it's kind of like

when you're in television, Ocho, and they teach you how to read the prompter, they always tell you, you got more time than you think. Yeah. And that's one of the things I would tell the wide receivers. You got more time than you think. Time than you think, yeah.

Don't rush it. Because you rush it, quarterback, and think about it. Plus, Ocho, you got to let the quarterback hear the gun. You got to get the ball. Yeah. So you – You got to get that clock. He ain't got the ball yet.

Yeah. He ain't got the ball yeah yeah he got the ball yeah and every and every and the funny thing about it and this is no no no no no you know just my receivers i know y'all gonna see everybody doing the same release they hezy hezy skip skip off the line and just go hezy hezy skip skip and then go and the dbs ain't falling for it all they do is hit a shoulder pad and turn and run and ride you and turn and run everybody doing the same the same thing everybody yeah yeah everybody tried to do that davante that's the davante adams that's the basically hezy hezy skip skip and go and the thing see now they don't let you get that physical because back when i first got into the league if you hands it you run through your chest man they man they'll choke you

to death man listen and they come right up they come right up to here you you ever had you ever you ever played against dale carter yeah dc yeah oh he was he was at kansas city he actually became a teammate of mine in 99 but in kansas City, back, you know, Ocho, guys were what they call quick jam or freeze technique. Yeah. So they'd be up there. They'd be up there, let a press position, and then all of a sudden you see him open up like, okay, he fit.

Uh-uh. And come right back to you. Man, Dale Carter, man. I done seen Dale. I had to see Dale one time, man, when he was with the Ravens. And Dale jump jammed me, man, one time. It was a blocking play and caught me in my neck and I couldn't even move. I couldn't even move.

I was stuck in one spot. And he opened up like the snap was coming. I'm thinking, oh, it's a run play. He good. He finna bail out. Man, that ball snapped, man. He was in my chest so goddamn fast because i was relaxed because i knew it was a run play never again yeah oh yeah never again but guys don't

don't quick jam or freeze technique nearly as much as they used to back in the day i don't even think the cornets even allow them to play that technique so they're not out of position because you know if you miss yeah you you you you asked out oh yeah yeah because all he gonna do is he gonna throw that head up uh on that i think it was the second to the last touchdown maybe the last touchdown back had hit a turkey leg in a salvation army army thing right right when they scored a touchdown that went got the plastic bag had the turkey leg in there took a bite of it yeah now he gonna get fined extensively, but I like to sell it. I like to sell it. I love it.

So what did you think of Dak's celebration and what was your favorite celebration? You know what? The Salvation Army with the turkey leg in there was perfect. Obviously with the day being Thanksgiving, the NFL office, this is what the fans want. This is what the fans want to see. I don't think you should fine for stuff like this,

but he's probably going to get a significant fine. Because it's a prop. Remember they say, Ocho, they don't want you to use props. Yep, yep, yep. No props on the field. I wonder who started that. But needless to say, that was a great celebration. I enjoyed it.

And it goes with the theme of the day. It goes with the theme of the day. And goes with the theme of the day and the NFL should realize to this point you have to be a little bit more lenient allowing the players to have a little fun because this is great engagement and fun and entertainment for the fans. This is the entertainment business and stuff like that is exactly what the fans pay

those high price tickets for. You remember Joe Horn brought that cell phone. Joe Horn started y'all with that foolishness. Oh, yeah. Dude actually had to flip up under the goal post, scored a touchdown. That was classic.

That was classic. Yeah, I think that was Paul Tagliabue was in when that actually happened. Yeah. Because I think I might have still been in the league. So, yeah. Daniel just donated. Does Dak have to win a Super Bowl to be considered a Hall of Fame quarterback? No, there have been quarterbacks that's – they're not many that's in the Hall of Fame.

Warren didn't win a Super Bowl. Warren Moon, he didn't win a Super Bowl. But for the most part, Dan Marino didn't win a Super Bowl. But Danny is thought of as an elite quarterback. Danny is one of the 100 greatest players. He's on the 100th anniversary team. I think they picked seven quarterbacks. I think they picked seven.

Because if I'm not mistaken, I know Montana, Manning, Brady, Elway, and Marino. I know it's five. It might have been. No, Starback is one. So six. So I think they picked six or seven quarterbacks. All of them with the exception, I think Danny won at least one Super Bowl. Right.

They picked seven. They picked 10 quarterbacks. They picked 10 quarterbacks. They picked 10 quarterbacks. What about Troy? Aikman got to be in there somewhere, huh? No, Aikman, he wasn't one of the 100 greatest. Okay. Otto Graham was one, wasn't he?

Otto Graham? Otto Graham. For the Cleveland Browns, yeah. But back then, they didn't have Super Bowl. They had championships. Slinging Sammy Ball. Johnny U. But Johnny won a Super Bowl they had championships slinging Sammy Bob um Johnny you but John but Johnny won a Super Bowl remember he also the biggest upset when the uh the Jets upset the Colts uh but back then he

also won a championship so yeah I I don't I don't think he has I don't think he has to but he's gonna have to play and a lot of these guys if they didn't win the Super Bowl and and and I think I don't think uh Warren Warren didn't win an MVP but Danny was an MVP in 1984 first guy to throw he threw 48 touchdowns which was unheard of in that day threw for 5,000 yards which would be the equivalent of maybe even 6,000 yards considering the rules back then how you could attack the quarterback how you could punish the receiver. Oh, he would, in today's game, he would throw probably for 6,000 yards. The Packers beat the Lions 22-29-22.

Jordan Love, 22-32, 268, three touchdowns. Christian Woods, Christian Woods. Christian Watson, five catches, 94 yards and a touchdown. The Packers had a first-quarter defensive touchdown on a sack fumble caused by Rashawn Gary. On Jerry Goff, Jonathan Owens, who happens to be Simone Biles' husband, scooped and scored 27 yards.

Gary picked up three sacks in the win. Jerry Goff was 29 of 44, 332, two touchdowns, but he lost three fumbles. And remember, he got away with it. He had four turnovers last week. They had four turnovers, and they came back and win. You see? You gotta be careful. You gotta be careful

because you step up in competition, you turn the ball over, it's gonna bite you in the butt. And it really bit him in the butt. And I thought it was a little bit early for Dan Campbell to go for it on fourth down especially in your own area of the field because now if they stop you

they didn't feel go range they stopped you didn't feel go range Ocho and so but what do you take away from what you like about Jordan Love because he made some throws today Ocho yeah he made some throws today that I'm like hold on did you see him challenge i saw him last year and

i said i'm not saying he's going to be aaron rogers because i think aaron rogers you can make a case aaron rogers one of five greatest quarterbacks there as far as arm talent durant yeah he i mean you're talking about he marino mahomes as far as just arm talent just throwing the football he's there but Jordan Love made some throws last year I said hold on he reminds you a lot of a young Aaron Rodgers the way he can drop down the arm angles in which he can release the ball he made some throws today I think the Matt LaFleur I think Brian Gutekas the general manager and I think the CEO Mark Murphy, they're like, okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. I think

the fact of the matter is with them which made letting Aaron Rodgers go and understanding what they had waiting in the helm to take over this organization in Jordan Love. Obviously, he can throw from multiple angles. He can throw every throw from either hash. He's one of those quarterbacks in NFL

where the ball can be on the left hash. He can throw a 20, 18-yard comeback all the way to the opposite side of the field. That's the type of arm strength and arm talent that he does have. And obviously it showed today with some of the things that he was able to do. Christian Watson, the receivers have been really up and down, up and down for the Packers, you know, throughout the season. But when they get it together, when they continue to mesh, especially in the offseason, they get together and they come back next year,

they have a nice squad. They have a nice squad offensively. They young, the Ochoa and the receivers. You got to like them. You look at Christian Watson, Romeo Dobbs. Romeo Dobbs, man, the real deal. They all the real deal. I would like a little bit more out of the running game

so it doesn't put the onus of everything having to be done at the quarterback position and having to put the game in his his hands a little bit more efficient a little bit more efficiency in the run game i think they're gonna be fine obviously on the on the on the flip side of things this is a game where the damn lions couldn't overcome the turnover no you can't you can't you can't turn three times one time yes one time you know you can overcome but three and you lose all three of them that that that's that's not gonna work that's not gonna be that you can't turn three times. One time, yes. One time, you know you can overcome. But three, and you lose all three of them, that's not going to work. That's not going to be that. You can't play winning football like that. And the bigger problem is that they got points off your turnovers

because they got a scoop and scored. Their offense wasn't on the field. At least you can say, well, our defense came on the field and we could have stopped them and we got to return it right back over. But no, they got seven points out of your possession. And you can't. It's hard enough. It's hard enough for a team to win games when your offense isn't scoring.

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I got five on it. Hey, what'd win each winner wins one thousand dollars oh y'all for the winner thousand hey when y'all when y'all money man send me something hey when y'all win just send your boy 500 you know i don't even i don't even need i just need 20 throw something on the floor for me, baby. I'm going to pick it up now. Our first winner, at Kenobi Centauri. At Kenobi. K-N-O-B-I C-E-N-T-A-U-I-R at Kenobi Centauri. Our next one is

B-O-N-N-a-h underscore what triple a from ghana triple a from ghana oh we well he from ghana somebody way from ghana ghana yeah yeah uh hey our other one is uh my hero is My Hero Anthony Zero. Anthony Alacro Alacro Alacron Anthony Alacron My Hero Anthony Double Zero. Anthony Alacron You are a winner.

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before you I'll lie to you I just subscribed on all 18 of my email accounts serious? yeah so he gets something we got something Hambino coming your way also so Kenobi Centauri, you from Ghana.

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Listen, everybody that won. Everybody that won, all I need. I ain't going to, I'm going to see him. I'm going to text him a cash app. Just send me $5. Throw some on the floor for me. I'm going to pick it up. That's all I need.

That's all. Congratulations to y'all, man. I love you. The holidays are coming up. I think all five of y'all owe me something. And y'all know what they say. Money out of sight calls a fight. Pay up. Pay up. Pay up. I need it. I need it. Ocho say he want five, I want ten. So that's eight.

So you got nine and five coming. Everybody got nine and five. We good with that? I ain't ask for much. I ain't ask for much. Because I know if I get five from each one of you, man, that's $25. You know what I could do with $25 in today?

Today's economy? I can make that stretch for about two weeks. Well, see, here's the thing, Ocho. You getting five, that's $25. I'm getting $10. That fit it all. Fit it all. Good 50?

I'd do something with 50. I could flip that. I fit it all. Fit it all. Good 50? I'd do something with 50. I could flip that. I'd flip that. I'd flip that. What you gonna do with 50? Turn that 50 into what? 100? Man, I come back. Hey, I come back with 80. Tell you what I'm gonna come back with. I'm gonna come

back with old Honda. A Honda Civic. Well, yeah, about 96. Because you know a 96 Honda Civic will last you about 30 years. 88. The doors in the hood might not be matching, but it'll be

alright. It'll get you from point A to point B. You gotta get some gold BBSs on that thing. Some gold BBSs. Have it lowered. Yeah, lower that thing, man BBS have it Lord yeah lower that thing man put a little exhaust on there congratulations guys we really appreciate it please make sure you click

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40 winners will win $500. I don't know how much. 20,000. 20,000. We giving away $20,000, man. Uh, baby Pluto just donated this for Ocho.

What you want to ask Ocho, Baby Pluto? What's up, Baby Pluto? Hold on. He just donated $100 for Ocho? He donated $100. Man, that's what I'm talking about. Boy, you a real one, boy. You a real one. I appreciate that, homie. I salute

you. I salute you, man. You know what I can do with that $100? I'm behind on child support. That's going to my back pain. I appreciate that, boy. Man, look, I got a daughter in med school, man. I got a daughter in med school. Hey, boy, I salute

you, boy. Brother Pluto. Baby Pluto. Oh, baby Pluto, boy, don't make me start crying here in front of company, boy. Brother Pluto. Boy, you don't... Baby Pluto. Don't make me start... Oh, Baby Pluto. Don't make me start crying here in front of the company, man. Well, hey, I need Mama Jupiter to send me something. Baby Pluto just said, Ocho, $100. Mama Jupiter, send your boy something. Break me up.

I appreciate that, boy. You're a real one, boy. Shit, shoot me a tweet. Shoot me a DM, boy. I'm finna follow you, boy. I ain't never had nobody give me $100, boy. Especially right now, shoot. Times is rough, boy. oh joe i don't know if you saw this real one in an hbo in the hbo sport interview that aired tuesday ursa was asked if the arrest of 2014 driving under the influence of prescription drugs and some subsequent guilty plea which resulted in a six-game suspension from the nfl were a low point to which he responded no not

really because the arrest was wrong. Ursa went on to accuse the Indianapolis suburban police of Carmel police department of profiling him. I'm prejudiced against because I'm a rich white billionaire. If I was just an average guy down the block, they would not be pulling me over. They would not be pulling me in. Of course not.

Ursa said he had recently had hip surgery at the time, which made it difficult to walk and required him to take prescribed medication why the hell are you driving in he also said he played guilty to the misdemeanor because he just wanted to get it over with ursula asked if he knew how this this statement would sound to the public which he replied i don't care what it sounds like it's the truth you know You know, Andrea talking about Andrea, Andrea Mitchell. I could give it down what people think or how anything or how anything sounds or sounds like the truth is the truth. And I know the truth.

Then he went on to tweet at first tape to first take all night. If you don't give a damn. And so I'm asking if you didn't care, why are you tweeting that first take? So here's some of the facts of his arrest. He was pulled over at 11.40 p.m. by a police officer who observed a vehicle traveling 10 miles an hour in a 35 miles an hour zone. The car frequently made stops.

It would come to a complete stop on an open road, no stop sign, no traffic light. He was found to have multiple prescription drugs in his car. Xanax, Darbyshire, Valium, Ambien, Ativan, according to the arrest. He also

had $29,000 and a Toyota Highlander he was driving. Most of the cash found in the briefcase, laundry bag, which contained prescription drugs. Hold on. I'm not done. Let me tell you. A little fact. He also, one time, he had 400

tablets of Oxycontin during one 24-day period. He had 120 prescriptions filled in a single year. In 1995, Indianapolis police found his name among records of a doctor suspected of running a pill mill. So let this, let this people at home, I just want you to hear what I'm saying. He once got 400 Oxycontin pills in a 24-day span. And I think the pills were, what, 30 or 40 milligrams?

They were 40 milligrams. Oxycontin. I'm lost a little bit, Unc. I'm lost a little bit. So you got to catch me up. I'm not one that really takes pills or really gets stuff over the counter so i need to have a better understanding on what oxycontin is and what it does and why he had so many it's very addictive and it's a pain

it's a painkiller it's highly in pain i'm assuming this is from his hip surgery then okay here's the thing he had the hip surgery in June of one year. He was pulled over in April of the following year. Oh, Joe, see how I can speak to a little something about this here. Your boy had both of his hips replete paired. Okay.

So you know about it. The one thing they told me, they said, they said, we would like for you to take seven to 10 days before you drive. Yes. Yes. Okay. My head hard.

I ain't listen, but here's the thing. Oh, Joe, I had the first surgery. I had a luxury action and they weren't certain that the leisure reaction didn't come from the pain medication that they gave me. So the next hip surgery,

guess what? Oh, Joe, they gave the medication. I didn't take it. They didn't give me any pain medication that they gave me. So the next hip surgery, guess what? Oh, Joe, they gave the medication. I didn't take in. They didn't give me any pain medication. They put me under what I wrote. I took no pain medication.

So if you know you had hips or first of all, it's a whole, it's a whole thing about it. It's June. So it's almost a year. Oh, Joe, my second one, I was walking unassisted in seven days. The first one took me 12 days. So if you have hip surgery in June of one year,

how the hell are you still stumbling and falling and you're in pain the following year and 10 months later? Well, I think it's maybe because of his age i'm not sure i'm not gonna give him i'm just jim ursae at the time of the surgery was 52 yeah oh oh he oh he was young oh he was young jim ursae is 64 years old yes 64 ocho he don't look it but he's 64 right I'm 55 the search hold up he had to search so 2013 so he was 54 he was a year younger he's a year younger than what I am right now I had my surgeries at 53 and 54 hey it's kind of crazy some of the statements you read about him not caring obviously not caring and being that he's being profiled because he's a rich billionaire.

I mean, listen, there are a set of rules that we all have to live by. You know, those rules are the same for everybody in regards to who you are. Oh, Joe, yes. You know what would have happened if you or I try to get 400 Oxycontin pills in 24 days. Do you know what would happen to you and I if we got 127 prescriptions filled in a year? Do you know what's going to happen? And do you know what's going to happen to the doctor? He's going to lose his life. Can you tell me what would happen if you pay for him?

I mean, he has a 120 prescription. Ain't no doctor going to write him. First of all, that's over the top. Do you understand how many, 120 years old Joe? That's 10 scripts a month. Okay.

Right. You get 10 prescriptions per month. That's 120. Right. Okay. Of, of Oxycontin, of Valium,

of, of, of all, what was the drugs he had? Put it up on my screen, Ash. Put the drugs that he got scripts for. I'm learning

something new. Shit. The only thing I know about, all I know about is Tylenol and Advil. Nah, nah, nah, nah, nah. He was taking stuff stronger than Tylenol and Advil. But the problem that I have is that he tried to say, well, I come from nothing. Bro, Bob Ursae was his dad. He owned

the Indianapolis, first of all, they were the Baltimore Colts. He went to SMUu smu wasn't cheap then when he went to school it's not cheap now cheap now yeah he got named general manager of the of the baltimore indianapolis coast one month after they left in the middle of the night they left baltimore they packed up i remember that went to indy when it was he got yeah he got he got named general manager and for him to say he pulled himself up by his bootstraps bro do you understand that you were wearing christian louboutin bootstrap boots yeah do you understand see he's the type of guy that he's on third base but he didn't hit a triple right oh that's a good one that's a good analogy right just already there that that's a good that's a good analogy right there and i'm not saying and he talked about you know i i just hate bro

do you understand the perks that comes along with being wealthy, white and a billionaire? Oh, so we get some perks and we wealthy and black, but we don't get those kind of perks. No, it's different. Listen, and obviously when you're rich in general, when you're rich in general, at some point when you get enough money, at times we lose it. We lose a sense of reality. We lose a sense of reality and we somewhat become or feel invincible to the fact that we get to abide by our own set of rules and we are different than everybody else. And many times when we come or we have a run in with the law, they will humble you and you bring you back down to earth to help you realize that you are no different than anybody else regards to income or regards to how many zeros you have in your bank account yeah and most of the time if after enough red flags and you still not listen the man upstairs will humble you himself yeah look if he just oh joe if he just go ahead and

take his punishment said look i learned my lesson i've been dealing with addiction and addiction is, it is, it's a disease and it's something that I fight daily. I'm okay. I'm okay with that. But bro, you were not signaled out. Here's some of the scripts. He had Laura, Laura said,

Vicaprofen Xanax and Klonopin. What? Yes. Yes. Yeah. Yeah. I don't know what, but don't worry about a lot of the people out there understand what it is you ain't just getting those ocho so is this is the help with

with the pain the pain he's going through he's been to rehab he's trying to make it seem like he was dealing with and i'm not saying that he wasn't each person is different but if you know you had hip surgery why are you taking drugs and driving ignorance of the law is not an excuse you can't park in front of a fire hydrant and say well judge i didn't see the fire hydrant he's gonna tell you ignorance of the law is not an excuse you know you were told what when you take i don't know anybody out there you know when you when they tell you about taking painkillers what do they say do not drive or operate heavy machinery that's all it make you dry thank you make you drowsy thank you okay yes okay yes normally when you take painkillers you

sit your ass on the couch and you go lay down right who who thought like you know what man i got i'm in so much pain let me pop some of this Oxycontin let me talk to Ms. Darvish and I'm going to go for a drive so let it sink in what your hip hurting

got to do with you driving 10 miles an hour and stopping on an open highway and they came out can you give me the report what did the Carmel police say? And normally you would have thought, would it be

in Indianapolis and would it be in the police? And with him being Jim Irsay, most of the time, you let somebody go of that magnitude, especially a name like that. That is a representation of not just the Colts, but Indianapolis. Yeah. Oh,

Joe, it must've been bad. He must've been like really messed up, like drowsy or something. Well, he soon he got a car, but hopefully when you, when we're going to show the video, we're like,

when we, when people see this, see this, we're going to see the video. That ain't no pain. Cause I, like I said, I drove three,

three days after my second search, but i wouldn't take it but i didn't take any pain medication oh that's crazy but i but i also understood that they had already told me that mr sharp you're not going to give you anything because i had a very bad allergic reaction. I had to go to UCLA medical emergency for the first time. Right. Okay. Tim Green, the now retired Carmel, Indiana police chief, told USA Today Sports on Wednesday. Hold on.

Hold on. Okay. I would just hope that he would reevaluate what he said there because he knows that's not the case in this manner. Let's just say some of the comments that he made without any type of evidence or proof. Bro, them people ain't pulling. Man, come on. Bro.

Right. With those kind of prescriptions, because normally you got to have who? Ocho, do you know how many 400 Oxycontin pills are if you got that you go into jail you're going to jail with 400 pills in 24 days for having pills

that are just for pain that's pain medicine you ain't no doctor writing you 400 of them do you know see you don't understand but when you get out there I want you to google oxycontin and see how addictive it is the pills is the the pill is the new thing now that's what people got people walk around here like zombies the pills is the new thing people selling get prescriptions and they selling them all right i'm i'm lost a little bit so they selling the pill so the people that are that are purchasing the, they're in some sort of pain or they're just addicted to having it because it gives you a certain feeling.

People will buy the pain or whatever you're going to. OK, let's just say I get a prescription. I got a prescription pill for Oxycontin, Darvacet, uh, hydrocodone. Hey man, man, I heard you, uh, you got some pills. What'd you need? Hey, let me get a, what you got? I got some Oxycontin. I got some hydrocodone. I got Darvish said, got what you need, what you need. Okay. Let me get that. I'll sell them to you. Now you walk around here like a zombie because you they not for you and you taking them in abundance people taking them they're crushing them they snorting them they doing all kind of stuff that's the thing that so here's the thing so it was never a problem

it's going to become illegal then it's been illegal pill mills are illegal he was he was getting scripts you can't get script you can't get 15 that's a pill mill that's illegal normally doctors lose their jobs if they do that they'll get this bar they'll get this oh so so when you get them in bulk it's illegal but as long as you get them and it's prescribed for you to actually take then it's not illegal based on small amounts ain't no show do you understand how many 400 pills are? I don't think you grasped the magnitude of 400 pills in 24 days. I know you got to

give it to me in a different terminology on something that I understand and know about. Okay, you know about Vicodin. You saw a player, your teammates take Vicodin. A Percocet. So imagine your teammate getting 400 Vicodin which is Oxycontin is probably two to three times stronger than those.

Getting 400 of those in 24 days. Okay. I think I got it. Yeah. So you got teammates. You know your teammates took. They took those percocet and those things of that nature because that's what they gave the football player.

Okay. He had 424 days. Money talks. I mean, obviously, people are that type of wealth. That's my point. They live a different lifestyle, and they have access and resources to any and everything. Thank you.

In bulk. But he was trying to say that being a wealthy white billionaire was some kind of drawback oh he profiled he clearly understands the privileges that that comes with isn't just this profile of the wealthy right bro i promise you if i get on wilshire boulevard and and they go get some call and the police come behind me that's a busy intersection I'm going 10 miles an hour and then all of a sudden I just stop and then I take off again

and I ain't at no traffic light I'm not at a stop sign a four way intersection a two way intersection I'm just stopping in the middle of the middle for no reason no joke what you think they gonna do okay every time okay so I just I just wish you just left well enough alone just own the mistake

that you made you have some issues you've been dealing with this for a long period of time and i understand uh that addiction is real i just had a conversation with rick flair who lost his son reed and you can see here the pain and the hurt of losing a child and so i empathize for anybody that's going through and if get please get the help that you need but in this situation i just wish jim ursae would have left this alone because he's not gonna get any sympathy because he's trying to like pretend like he had like he did nothing and they just profiled him and just pulled him over. Right. So

is he in trouble now? No. What happened all the way back then? No, no, no. He was suspended for six games. So he already did his time. He already did his time. Okay, okay, okay. And so my thing was, I don't even know why he wanted to rehash that don't you

you served your time you served your penalty why go back down that avenue okay yeah i saw i saw the tweet i saw the first take tweet i didn't really understand where it was coming from i i didn't know some other stuff about his his siblings died in a car crash and some of that's true some of that's not true um i think one of his one of his siblings had special needs they end up dying in 1999 and it wasn't in a car crash so he misspoke on a lot of stuff i'm not saying he's lying i'm just saying he misspoke the truth on some things um right but i don't understand why he would want to go down that path anyway. That's probably a very traumatic experience and try to re-drudge that up to elicit sympathy.

But he can just miss me on that one. I don't know him that well. I've met him on several occasions, but he gets no sympathy from me on this one. Greg Popovich tells the Spurs crowd to stop booing Kawhi. Kawhi was booed often during Wednesday game, particularly when he's at the free throw line. The boos were so loud and intense that Pop got

on the microphone at the scorer's table and implored the crowd to stop booing. Excuse me for a second. Can we stop all the booing? Let the guys play. Have a little class. It's not who we are. Knock off the booing. It didn't work. The boos grew louder. They didn't listen to pop? Nope.

See? He opposed the player, Ocho. Yeah, but fans are fickle. He was a spur. Yeah. He was a spur. He gave his all in all. Do you remember how he left? Do you remember how he left?

See? See what happened when I don't pay attention to basketball was there something wrong with his knee right it was something wrong yes yes i see i remember and he set out for a lot of games right he said he had he had a quad tendinosis yeah see so it was something that was going on in his quad and the spurs doctor said it was OK. Kawhi and his doctor says, no, it wasn't. And the thing that and see, this is what good coaches do. Coach could always iron fist Timmy D. He could always iron fist Tony Parker or Manu.

And he thought the same approach would work for Kawhi. But if you look at Kawhi's demeanor. Ocho, you can't do him like that. You can look at his demeanor. That ain't gonna work with him. And he's not a confrontational

guy. And I told him at the time, I remember when all this was going on, I said, Kawhi, never play for them again. Oh, they'll work it out. I said, no, he won't. How did you they'll work it out i said no he won't how did you how did you know they wouldn't play because the doctors know the doctor didn't side with him nope because something that tony parker said when tony parker said my my leg was tony parker tore his quad the previous year and came back to play before kawaii And he said in front of the media that my injury

was a thousand times worse than Kawhi. Why would he do that? There it is. Why would you even compare injuries to two completely different body types and people heal completely different and as your teammates, you don't want to throw your teammate under the bus like that. And I think they have a team

meeting or something and ask him, when are you going and i think they have a team meeting or something and ask him when are you going to play they have a team meeting and they put him under the lights and once that came out ocho i've been you know i've been pretty good in locker rooms i have a pretty good gauge of how to deal with people some people you pat them on the back some people you kick them in the butt some people you'll be facetious with i mean i'm used to tell guys hell my grandma could have caught that one bro how bad shot you crazy but yeah you know who to play with like that though but you know i'm getting my point across i'm like right but some guys you ride some guys you pat on the back some guys you're like bro god damn we all getting paid here right right right right you can't talk to everybody the same and the mark of a leader is to know who

to talk to how to talk to when to talk to them right and so i i just i just knew i just knew that wasn't gonna it said it didn't work the brew the booze grew louder he said he didn't he said he wasn't bothered by the booze and he said if i don't have that spur jersey on um they're probably gonna boo me for the rest of my career you're right you're right i don't he I don't have that Spurs jersey on they're probably going to boo me for the rest of my career. You're right. He probably don't even care though. He don't care. I know you remember when LeBron went back to Cleveland. Do you remember when he went back

to Cleveland from Miami? Oh yeah. That first game I remember that. Yes. I watched that. They didn't give two you know what. They didn't care. They didn't have it. But they built for that, though. People like LeBron, people like Kawhi. I ain't even heard Kawhi talk yet.

I heard him laugh before. I ain't even heard him talk yet. So I know he don't even care. Yeah, I know he don't care about none of that. It don't affect him in any way. But if I'm an opposing player, I've been very fortunate. I left Denver, and I went back. They cheered me. They didn't boo me. Even when i called a pass i don't remember them booing me when i called a pass i left left baltimore go back

to denver they cheered me i don't remember them booing me even when i called a pass uh but that's different i mean you know the thing was is that uh i didn't want to leave either place but circumstances is beyond my control. And the fans took that into consideration. Hey, and yeah, that's business. It is.

Tiana Taylor filed for divorce from Iman Shumpert, alleged infidelity and mental abuse. According to legal documents filed in Georgia, Tiana felt pressure to intentionally dim her light for her husband to try to have a harmonious and peaceful marriage. She accuses him of being extremely emotional and mentally abusive towards her, exhibiting cruel treatment and selfishness, crashing her Rolls Royce only to flee the scene, evading a second DUI. She also claims Iman was jealous whenever she'd get the spotlight, asking her not to work, then gripping that she wasn't earning enough money for their family. Damn.

While she downplayed the talk of infidelity in her public comments earlier this fall, writing to be 1,000% clear, infidelity ain't one of the reasons for our departure. TMZ reports cheating was very much a part of the divorce filing. What's your take on that, Ocho? Because you're kind of in a situation where a rail earns a nice living. Yeah. And go ahead.

I want to hear your talk. I'm going to follow. I'm going to go after you. I want to hear what you got to say. The first thing I was getting ready to say is the divorce rate. The divorce rate is super high high i'm not even to speak on tiana taylor and what iman went through how do we fix the issue how do we come down to the issue because the same things keep coming up over and over and over and over infidelity is

always a problem um uh money has always been a problem um else everybody has a different factor so many people are divorcing and every time people divorce there's always a different reason and most of the time the same common things always come up so the thing I want to know in the chat in the chat that you got you guys listen I think this is a great topic and I'm glad we're touching on this how do we fix the problem how do we get to the root of the problem what really is the problem in general is marriage is the traditional marriage what something that we all can do or do you do you do the type of marriage that that works for you it's it's it's um it's it's really a loaded question when you think about it when you think um it's it's really a loaded question when you think about it

when you think about it everybody portrays they're so happy when you look at pictures of iman and tiana everybody looks so happy we look at other people that have been that have been divorced they look at pictures everybody's so happy but we never know what's going on behind closed doors how do we make marriage work that's what i want to know how do we make it work forget the part of we're only we're seeing the finished product people ending people being over but what they show and what what they perceive to be is they they always show that they're happy and things are going perfect how do we fix the root of the fucking problem so it doesn't end in the goddamn well that's what that's that's what i want to know well that's what you do on social media everybody wants to do stuff on social media.

Post this, post that, or you did this, you do that. For me, you know, the thing is, Ocho, marriage, divorce used to be frowned upon. Man, it had to get really, really bad. Really, really, really, really bad for a man to leave the marriage or a woman to leave the marriage it's too easy now i mean hey you get mad you come home i don't like this and boom i'm gone right my thing is is that if what she's saying is true and i don't know that to be true yeah i don't i would be i would be honored if my partner my wife my significant other had income because you have to understand at one point in time, I was the dominating figure in the relationship. Right. And and I know it's hard. I mean, you know, and I look at I look at Tabitha.

Hey, Tabitha Chance, I know you watch because chance commented on my thing i look at chance and tabitha he he cool with being a stay-at-home dad he runs everything from from the background he's cool with that she loves that man immensely there's nothing that man could ask tab for that she wouldn't get or give him but he's okay with that amon you got to realize, Amon was an NBA player, first-round draft pick of the Knicks. He won an NBA championship. He was at the height. Deanna had to take the... I think it was something about taking

pictures. Now, you don't normally see that with a married couple. I couldn't imagine someone, LeBron and Savannah, walking the red carpet and they said, okay okay savannah can you step to the side we just want to take a picture lebron now your girlfriend that's one thing but that's that man that's his wife right so and and i you know what that i get it it's kind of like stedman

oprah oh stephan is fine in the background in the background yeah uh cory uh and chris jenner right he cool with the background right i think it's harder for a man if you've been at this level ocho you've been in the spotlight you've been the center of attention all of a sudden it's like hey we want to take a picture your wife and not you we want to speak to your wife i want to speak to your wife and not you right right i don't i haven't been i'm cool i'm cool i mean my thing is like i i think for me like when i go into if i go into a relationship okay are you gonna work you want to work you're working do you i mean okay you're gonna continue to work okay cool this cool. This is what I do. Hey, save yours.

I mean, every relationship I've been in, my girlfriend ain't going to pay for anything. Ain't helping no rent. I take over her bills. You got a car note? I got that. You got an apartment? I got that.

Come on now. The only thing you pay for, your cell phone bill, you pay that. That's all you got right okay hey you know my um my mom want to come my family's coming okay i got him i'll fly him in i have a car service pick him up yeah well well you the one boy well you that boy huh you hear me i'm just i'm just i'm just old-fashioned i do a lot i ain't opening no doors so don't ask me i ain't gonna go around and open your door to get in the car or something like that open your damn door but for most of the stuff everything else i'm gonna take care of it that's just that's just that's just the way i am i'm not saying if another guy doesn't do that

i'm not saying he's wrong i know some guys guys like, hey, oh, shot, man, she got to pay for something. I'm good. I'm good. So that's just the way I handle it. I've never been in a situation where I've dated someone. I guess that was the equivalent of as far as facial recognition, name recognition as I am. But let's just say for the sake of argument, I dated someone that was the equivalent of me. And all of a sudden I wasn't doing what I was doing. Could I be okay with that? Yeah.

Hell yeah. I want to stay home, babe. You go and go on a red carpet by yourself. I'll be here waiting. Right, right, right, right. Cause I, I ain't, I ain't, I don't do stuff to try to get attention. That's that's, I don't do it.

I mean, I used to post my dogs all the time. I mean, I took a picture today. Jordan took a picture of my dog today, and I looked at the comment. Man, you got the dog at the table? Yes. Because I promise you, everybody that I would want to come to my house going to come to my house. You can't find five people that's ever been to my house

and had a meal that wasn't family bucket burns are probably the only two guys that's ever been to my house while food has been prepared sit down and eat and if you're not when I date women say look

the dog, they're going to get on the bed. They're going to get on the couch. They're going to sleep in the bed. The two little ones, they're going to sleep in the bed. I'm going to feed them table food. If you've got a problem with the dogs,

let me know. Now we can't, we can't do anything. I don't care how fine you are. I don't care how much money you make. Dogs ain't going to work. You, they live here. You visit it.

And you probably won't come back. You like that? So them dogs come before any woman that tries any of your kingdom. Any. Boy, you tough, boy. I ain't tough. I'm just saying, boy, you tough.

That's a good rule. But again, this is great. This is a great conversation, especially for the people watching people that are, that are couples, people that are already married, that are watching people that are maybe in, even in relationships. I think it all comes down to, to the one thing that a lot of us as, as men throughout, throughout time that we've all struggled with and being able to keep a woman happy long term. What does that entail? Is it possible to do? Many have failed. Many have tried

and many have failed. As for me, I think about my relationship in general and some of the ones I've had in the past. And what I've done now, I've come to the point to where I take bits in how others operate in relationships and in marriages and some of the things they do. I'm damn near somewhat of a copycat, if that makes sense. People that are married, Ryan Clark. I copy some of the things that Ryan does. He probably don't even know I even watch him and watch how he moves, watch it, watch how he conducts himself. Brother Shannon Crowder, a very,

very good friend of mine, very good friend of mine who I try to steal as much as I can from. And I absorb everything he does, the way he moves, the way he operates, the way he speaks, the way he conducts himself with his wife, with his woman,

Duke, Duke, you know, you know, Duke, remember Duke, Duke played the lead for a little bit duke i n i am nacho did i say that right yeah yeah yeah that man duke man if there was as a man you're not supposed to want to be like anybody but if there was one person

i wish i had that discipline earlier in life if i had his discipline and the way he moves and the way he operates when it comes to dealing with his woman and not playing no games in any other area, if it's not predicated to what he has going on in her, boy, listen. But I'd trade anything in the world to operate and move like that young fella there, man. That's somebody I look up to and they inspire me. As far as that, I try to keep myself surrounded by people that are in situations like myself. You know, so temptation, it's crazy out here. So I think surrounding myself by people who are in the same situation as me that want to move and that are going in the right direction as me. As far as being in a relationship, trying to build and all the other good stuff you know hanging out

with single people you know what you end up doing you end up doing single people things yes i i think the thing is marriage is so individual you have to do what works for you ocho um yeah maybe it's going on vacation maybe it's doing you know hey y'all work out together y'all go to church together there because it's kind of like parenting because each child is different each relationship is different so what works for you in rail might not work for me and my partner or it might not work for someone else and their partner so to try to say okay i'm gonna do this this and this because the old adage is okay uh the girl like well i won't uh such and such you know he takes his kids to school okay maybe he's in a position where he can go to go.

But let me ask you a question. In the process of taking the kids to school, is he taking you on vacation? Is he paying for everything? So you have to factor things like that in Ocho. So because you can't get everything, there is no perfect husband. There is no perfect wife. There is no perfect girlfriend or significant other. There is no such thing. We can strive to get it. But by the way, I'm asking, what is perfection? Yeah, it ain't no such thing. So we strive for something that no one because. Oh, 300. Why? Who said 300 had to be the perfect score in bowling? Who had to say 27 strikeouts had to be? So why couldn't it be 40? Right. So but for me me i look at a situation

no choice like look this works for me if it doesn't i'm gonna be up front this is what has to happen the dogs are not leaving the dogs are not going anywhere and that's so oh joe i don't get upset if a female civil shannon these are my non-negotiables i got no problem with that i have to seriously ask myself okay shannon you're saying you can do it i know you can do it for a week but can you do it for a month can you do it for six months can you do it for a year can you do it forever those are questions that you have to ask yourself and i know in in the beginning, a lot of times, like I said, when females would tell me when I was dating, I said, look, football is the most important thing.

Or I can be number two. Until they found out, man, this motherfucker, he too serious, man. All he want to eat is chicken breast and brown rice. We don't go out to eat no time. We don't do anything because all he does shannon you just left work you just watch film you tell me you watch film for two and a half hours why you got to watch film another two hours when you get home because that's how you become great this is how you make sure mary porter never has to eat what she ate the house doesn't leak anymore that my family never have to go back to that this is how

and so that's how i am and so i just tell them up front hey the dog these are these are some of the things i have i'll do whatever i can for you as far as monetary i'll i can only love you and that's the thing that's the hardest thingcho, is trying to communicate in someone's love language. Because as my therapist told me, she said, Shannon, she's speaking Spanish and you're loving her in Mandarin Chinese. She doesn't know what you're doing and you don't know what she's doing. So unless you learn her language or she learns your language, there is no communication and it's never going to work. Do you think, do you think at times we as men can get lost? We can lose a sense of ourself trying to please a woman too much because everything is predicated towards making her happy. Most of the time it's never really

ever, ever about us. Cause if you ask her what makes her happy and you just say, you just say, you ask her to name five things that make her happy and those five things she names will always be predicated to her and have nothing to do with you yes she want the bag i want he want the bag i want a man to take me here and i want him to do that i want him yeah yeah well they got you got to be the provider so so that the the old in question still remains unanswered to today. Was that is it possible? Is it possible to keep a woman happy long term? Whether it's a relationship, whether it's even a friendship, well, it's marriage. Is it possible, especially in today's climate and era that we're in where women like, wait, no, you know what?

He got one time. It doesn't come from any external thing. Go, Joe. Happiness comes from self. Happiness is not something you find it's something you create you you notice i said happiness is something you create it's not something you find self is not something that you found i hate when people say i found myself no you created self so me give i can give you whatever but at the end of the day you've got to be happy with you. You have to be happy with the person that you are. And I can I can be an accessory to your happiness. Right.

But I can never make you totally happy if you're unhappy with yourself. And that's what I've had to learn because I was looking for people to make me happy. But I wasn't happy with myself there were some things that I needed to figure out and then once I figured out that I said okay and I know and I look oh chill I'll be the first to admit I'm not an easy person to get along with because no because the thing is I had one of my exes told because all her friends like he must be so great to hang around he's so funny he's she said the person that you see on television he's nothing like that at home that him yeah and i'm not i'm very very quiet

at home i don't watch a whole lot of TV. Most of the things that I watch is on mute. And if it's not making me money, I don't really watch it anymore. I mean, I'll go home. I'll go home. And when I'm home and I wouldn't do anything,

when I was going on vacation, I was on another computer. I wouldn't cut the TV on. Well, when you cut the TV on. Real? Wouldn't even cut the TV on. I'd go get a massage, come home, stay in my room. I'd go get my nails done, come home, stay in my room. I'd go get

my hair cut, go home, stay in my room. My homeboy was telling you, Bucket, he's like, when I was playing Ocho, my homeboy would come up. He would say, Hey man, I'm gonna come on up. Cause I know you about to get training.

When I got into that mode, nobody came up. Nobody came to visit. That's how I am. And so I'm not an easy person to get along with. And I think the thing is that's probably the most reason. And people say, I got to,

I don't, I don't ask a whole lot. I mean, I think when people like, well, Shannon, you got too many rules well right if i'm i was gonna say i was gonna say that if all i ask is that you not pass gas in front of me or burp in front of me if that's too much okay or use the bathroom with a double thing no that's not that i i okay okay that that's a that's a non-negotiable for you maybe we're not for each other that's okay right i i okay okay that that is that's a if that's a non-negotiable for you maybe we not for each other that's okay right maybe i have some maybe i have some some quirks

um you know i had to you know get out of the habit of you know mama want to do a little something in the morning i had to get him brush my teeth right i can't we can't be doing that i can't be kissing you mouth smelling like get back oh no whoa whoa. Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. Wait a minute. Wait a minute, Nat. Wait a minute. Like, when it's time to get to the nitty gritty in the morning, you ain't got time. You don't have to.

You don't got time to be brushing your teeth. By that time, the mood is already gone. Ocho, man, I can't be in there kissing nobody breath smelling like Get Back. Hey, man, in the morning, ain't nothing about no kissing. Ocho, you out here like this here. Now, we going to work with you we gonna you know a lot of times i just you know i had to get out of that habit of thinking i'm like

everything had to be perfect yeah and and i think everybody's striving for that though but i just like okay this i mean you come i mean you look at you you go to my refrigerator all the labels are facing forward you go in my cupboards everything is facing a certain way you go everything is color coordinated hung up in my closets everything is everything is like like gotaca everything is so boom boom boom boom boom and then when it gets out of that okay what's the problem why is it like this and so that was the hardest thing but to get back on Tiana Taylor Ocho I hope I mean I don't know Iman I don't even I like damn sure don't know Tiana I mean I know who she is I know who he is I just

I just I just hope that wasn't the case that because I ain't trying to deal nobody like I want you to be your best I want you to be you and if I could accentuate that right I got I'll help what what you need yeah what you need hey chick say hey Shannon I want to go to I want to go to um you know what I want to go to real estate school. You know what I did, Ocho? I said, here, tell your mama to go too. Here's enough for both of y'all. That's how I am.

That's how I am. I don't expect nothing back. I don't do anything and expect it back. I've given my homeboys money. Hey, bro, when I give you money, man, Sean, come on, man. I don't want you, bro. You good.

You good. Right. That's just that's how I am, especially with. Yeah. I've broken up. I've broken up with females, Ocho. And it's like I see him like I said, well, you know, blah, blah, blah. I've been very fortunate, Ocho, to not after breaking up with somebody, not seeing them out with someone else.

Because we live totally different lives. I'm on one side of town. They're on the other side of town. I live in one state. They live in another state. So I don't really. Right. But if they ever need me.

Mm-hmm. I had this one. It ain't nothing. No. One chick, she called me. We were cool. Right. She's like, Shannon, I reallyannon i really need that's what you need

down payment on the house okay you good whoa whoa whoa whoa down payment down payment what you're 25 2500 oh sure let me tell you what i do because i like that i like that if you oh show if you cool with me you ain't got nothing to worry about let me tell you what i do because i like that i like that if you ocho if you cool with me you ain't got nothing to worry about let me tell you what i did when i was young i'm glad we friends then ocho when we were young when i was young i would test women because i wanted to see if you really like me and what you so i went to see this lady i ain't gonna tell you where i went to see that but i stay in the hotel and the last day he was coming back before i was getting ready to leave so i gave a five thousand and forty dollars and i know people at home say why you give a five thousand

and forty valet was twenty seven dollars and i wanted to see if she was going to take the forty dollars give the valet and let them keep them and keep the change what you think she did i know she hit you ass for the money for valet don't don't do that she charged it to the room so I'm out what were you lying I'm out I'm doing take it you you purposely gave her $40 that would have took care of valet she could have pocketed love five and she kept that her $40 that would have took care of the valet. She could have pocketed a little five and she kept that little $40. Yep.

That's a good test, Unc. That's a good one right there, bro. Let me tell you what I did. I did what I did one time. Once I told the chick, I said, I'm going to give you X amount of dollars. I gave her I gave her less than that

now I promise I'm gonna tell you what I told I said I'm gonna give you 10 bands for a birthday I gave her 10 bands for a birthday I said I'm gonna give you 10 bands for your birthday yes sir I gave her 8 but she didn't want it because I promised her 10.

Wait, what? She turned down 8,000 because you didn't give her 10 just because you said? She said I lied to her. You know, women, women big on principle now. You know how that is.

Women big on that. Listen, if you say you're going to do something, they big on that. I didn't see women. Women say, Listen, if you say you're going to do something, they big on that. I done seen women say, listen, if you say you're going to do something, do it. If you ain't going to stand on what you said you were going to do, why you even off in the first place? But I like, see, here's the thing. And this is how I am, Ocho.

The way my grandmother raised me is that be appreciative. Even if you don't get what you thought. And that's what, you know, look, and I think that that came from growing up how i grew up i know i was gonna ever get what i really asked for because we couldn't get it my mama got what she could i mean i was the first one of the first in glenville to have air jordans i was the first to have a walkman i mean we had a lot of stuff whatever my mama could get, we got it. Yeah. And so get it all right.

And my grandmother, whatever she could get, we got it. And so it taught me to be appreciative of whatever she gave me. And it rubs me to the one thing I hate. Any woman that's ever dealt with me if you ask them hopefully don't tell you but i hate ungratefulness i hate ungratefulness yeah appreciate what i give you and i'll give you more and most of the time you don't have to ask me ocho i'll just give it to you i'll just go give it to you yeah yeah yeah that's how i am you know that that's very hard in today in today's in today's era in in today's climate, because you got you got fellas now that obviously that lead with money and do so much right off the bat.

So when you when you reach somebody like you, someone like you who is a little bit more conscious of the way they give, then it's a little different because they expect it to be a certain way based on the individuals they dealt with before you came along. It's a little different. Yeah. You got you got you got fellas that's throwing that money because they got that fast money coming in and they move in different. So they can spend like that. So those that have to work hard for their money, they don't really appreciate you like that now. Yeah. So it's different types. It's different types. But I just hopefully, you know, I got daughters that are that are grown and and of dating age and i just like look and i just try to i just try to explain to them look they've been around they've been around me their whole life and they've grown accustomed to a certain thing a certain type of a lifestyle i said babe but what happens if you don't meet somebody the equivalent of your dad you You got to be OK with that. You got to be somebody that's going to love you, even if they can't provide what I what I provided you growing up.

You got to be OK with that. Right. You got to be OK with that. But yeah. And you got to be supportive of your husband and hopefully he's supportive of you. Yeah, that's that. That's that's that's the thing like i said ocho for the most part i like i said i haven't met anybody equivalent of me or you work look if i'm in a relationship ocho if you if you working you want to continue to work work baby right but you don't put anything towards the house save your money save yours the only thing you gotta pay the only thing you'll ever have to pay for is your own phone bill your phone bill that's it i got the car i got the insurance i got everything well that's that's why i see why you're so picky now because whoever you

pick ladies i know you're listening now oh doctor doctor oh alex trinidad alex trinidad donated a hundred dollars for your boy say this for you alex at i appreciate that i appreciate that good looking out real friends the doctor just donated another 500 happy thanksgiving hold on hold on hold on yeah he said happy thanksgiving i'd like to extend a self-care gift card to you for a facial and skin treatment at an LA-based skincare expert, Tracy Hudson. She's expecting to hear from you. Enjoy.

Oh, boy. I'm about to get these cucumbers under your eye. Hey, listen. Now, that's the third time now. Now, that's the third. Now, that's $1,500 now. That's $1, listen. Now, that's the third time now. Now, that's the third. Now, that's $1,500 now. That's $1,500.

That's $1,500 now. I ain't going to strike out. I ain't playing baseball. I ain't playing baseball, but I used to be good a softball player. Listen. I ain't never struck out, Ocho. My grandma said three times is the charm. Now, you keep on playing around, you're going to end up on a farm.

Ocho. Don't play no games now. Don't miss your blessing. You know what? Opportunity knocks or Grumbler complains about the noise. I ain't one to complain, Ocho. All right, now. Let me ask you a question.

Stay with me now. Stay with me. Knock, knock. Who there? Knock, knock. Who there, Ocho? The doctor. She there? She, knock. Who there, Ocho? The doctor. She there? She there.

She got a bag. She got a stethoscope. I ain't been breathing good lately. You might need to open up my airway, doc. Man, stop playing. Hey, listen. The man upstairs ain't going to give you too many more signs, man. He ain't going to give you too many more.

But back on that topic, man, with Tiana and Iman, man, it's unfortunate. I mean, many of our, what I consider and I call celebs, you know, I know both of them. It's very unfortunate. So many of them continue to break up. know both of them. It's very unfortunate. So many of them continue to break up. So many of them.

It's easy, Ocho. People don't want to fight no more. Ocho, you know how it is. I mean, back in the day. You fight for something? Yeah. Look, it's not like my grandmother and grandfather didn't argue a lot in front of us, but they would work it out.

People don't want to work it out now. The easy thing is to just believe. It's too many options social media has made us think there's so many options oh no it ain't nothing out there let me bring that back to you real quick

ain't nothing out there ain't nothing out there nah not like that cause if it was that good it'd be taken if it's what you thought it was if you what you thought it was you know you you'd it'd be it'd be taken and it'd be even if they're not taking with all with with all due respect to what's out there you know some people are still looking for their person and whatever that person may be whatever you envision your happiness to be it's out there and you're

going to continue looking for because you're looking for perfection you're looking for perfection you're looking for you know you want the best of the best and that's just not the way it works because that might not be in your cards i'm not sure what deck you playing with or you might want to shuffle but well you know what your man you know you say sometimes you got to deal the card you know you got to play the hand that you dealt but i ain't got no. I ain't got no face cards. I'm going to throw my hand in. You might as well throw it in.

But the way she blessing is Paige. You might as well throw it in. Yeah. Fold them. You know what, Ocho? You got to know when to fold them. That social media has been a blessing and a curse because it's allowed us to have our own platform like a nightcap, like a club. And it's allowed me opportunity to to to become

more recognizable whatever you want yeah whatever you want to envision yourself as being you can portray it on there until somebody see you in person yeah yeah but until somebody see you in person but i think the thing is is that when i was playing when i first got into the league to meet somebody from miami you damn they had you had to be in miami yeah if i wanted to meet somebody from cali or dallas or houston or wherever new york i had to be in those places now i just open up and i could just like damn oh yeah yeah social media has made the world very very very accessible has made everybody accessible has made everybody accessible it has you know and and the thing is like look everybody has somebody my grandmother always say boy everybody got somebody it's just to what extent

married fiance significant other boyfriend girlfriend ain't nobody just like that i ain't got nobody no Nah. Nah. So it's always something. There's always some type of title. There's always some type of something. And one of the scariest things that you can deal with is when you find somebody new and you're having to compete against their past. Because I remember my grandma always told me, boy, you're going to meet women and women are going to come into your life and they're going to always have somebody from their past

that will always have access to them. One person. Just one. You're right. Not a whole bunch of dudes. Not a whole bunch. No, I'm talking about. There's that one special person.

I don't care. I don't care what you, I don't care what she tell you. There will always be one person that will always have access to her, no matter what she says to you. Damn. And another thing she said was every time you date somebody,

you always have to remember you are really not the one she want to be with. The one she really want probably just wouldn't get his act together. Damn. And I'm saying them two things. It's stuck with me forever and ever and ever. And I, it's just always been in the back of my mind matter of fact real i know you're watching real i better be the one you wanted to because i

know you can see this but yeah man it's just just small things like that man if i don't let it bother me it doesn't deter anything i have going on right now but again keeping a woman happy iman and goddamn tiana it is unfortunate what they had what they had I wish them both the best of luck but for me like I told you and those that are watching I kind of hang around people that are in the same situation as I am to make sure I stay on point and um again if y'all don't know Duke you can follow Duke on Instagram that's that's somebody I look up to and want to be like and I'm waiting on you that's why i'm trying to get you a plus one because we i because we are together so much i need you in that same lane i'm in so i can steal from you and move accordingly

the way you do but i don't hang around nobody i don't hang around nobody but you you gotta you gotta start hanging around me because i'm i'm walking down the right path and i need you to walk i need i need i need a bad influence no i ain't unless unless you talk about eating that's about it laron lewis donated 20 10 dollars and said oh at this point give me your insta your insta i'll message real friend. Nah. Hell nah. James Coleman donated $5. Hey guys, what's your top three 80s action movies?

Top three 80s 80s action movies. Oh, that's a good one. Wait, let me think. Mad Max. What you know about Mad Max? Hey, what about Golden Child Golden Child ain't the 80s

that ain't no action movie man Golden Child was action what you talking about man yes with the little boy it was action oh lord have mercy action you think about what you want me to say Rambo yeah Rambo

Predator Predator ain't the 80. Yeah. Predator. Predator ain't the 80s though. Yeah, Predator. The first one. Okay, okay. Yeah, that's a good question. Okay. That's a good one. That's a good one. Rambo. What about, oh, I got one for you. What about Die Hard? I'm going to take you back.

Is Die Hard an action movie or is it a Christmas movie? That's a good question. It's an action movie. Yeah. It Christmas movie? That's a good question. It's an action movie. It just happened to be filmed around Christmas time. The setting was during Christmas time. What about why is it

slipping my mind? The movie with Arnold Schwarzenegger. Which one? Oh, Terminator? No, not even Terminator. He was Conan. God, Conan the Barbarian. no not it's not even not even terminator he was um conan god conan the barbarian god you took it right you took it right out my goddamn mouth conan the barbarian you remember that yes i do yes that was classic that was that was a good good action movie turnip king 31 donated 20 dollars uncle nocho what would you y'all prefer a dodge challenger i mean a dodge challenger hellcat or a track hawk and why i'm partial because when they reintroduced the uh hellcat in 2008

i got it they were numbered then they only came out with 6400 i had number 40 and when they came out with the hellcat um i think it was 2014 i got that one and so the last edition of the model they came out with they came out with a model called the black ghost they came out with a demon also and so uh i got that one so for me i'm kind of biased towards the challenger hellcat because i think it of the all the remakes it looks the most like the original challenger right all right for me uh if if you know me you know i drive a smart car i'm really not into speed i'm not going fast um if i had to take a choice um good friend of mine chief keith has a track hawk so i'd probably go with the track hawk because it looks cool um i i don't really drive fast i'm not into hell cats and

and dog cats and and what was what's the other one called a demon demon time demon time yeah i'm gonna get old school i'm gonna get old school if you're gonna get a chevy get a don't no i'm thinking about i'm thinking about like a 70 chevelle i'm gonna get a chevelle i like chevelle i like kudos get you get you a don't man man. I like the Ram Air, a GTO. I'm going to probably get something like that. Nah, you got to get you a don't, man. I don't want no don't, dude. I ain't from Florida.

It don't matter. Get you a 73, man. Convertible, man. Peanut butter guts, man. I don't like peanut butter guts. Come on, man. I like either. I'm going to get it.

You drop the top back. Get you a get you drop drop the top back get your convertible drop the top back man 20 out of 26 inch all gold day and music blasting think about it you cover you dry you dry you in la ride down crenshaw man i used to have a convertible i mean in college my brother bought me a 300zx i had t-tops and then uh he gave me his uh i remember yeah he gave me um his sl he had a sl he gave me that convertible i had a bentley convertible look i don't i don't want no convertible i don't want to be seen you had a bentley convertible yeah bro bro you got i don't have a bentley had rolls had now just give me a little bmw my little. I'm going to keep it moving. You good. You good? And my black gold stuff, when I go home in Atlanta, I can drive that.

I'm good. Oh, you got all types. No, no, no. I had a 61 Lincoln. Yeah, I done had some. Well, you better than me. I've been driving my small cars since 2006. I got me a little Suburban right now for the kids, you know,

when we need to maneuver and make moves. Other than that, that's it. If I need something nice, I got all my luxury stuff. I got a rental car place down here, exotic motors, all my luxury stuff. You go out there and you rent, you come out, you come to Miami, you be stunned

and you think you stunned, but you really driving my shit. But anyway, that's it. Just make a little change. Ex-Emerald donated $10 and asked, what was the best athlete you guys went against? Greetings from Puerto Rico. Best athlete. Love the show, Uncle

Nocho. Puerto Rico got some things over there too, don't it? Who got the best one, Puerto Rico or Dominican? Best what? Food? Women. Oh, I don't know. I don't know, bro. Okay. Damn.

Hey, y'all jump in the chat. Who the best? Puerto Rico or Dominican? It closed, though. Yeah, I don't know. I ain't never been to Puerto Rico or Dominican. But I heard I ain't never been either, Ocho. But everybody talking about, hey, hey, hey, Sharp, man.

Hey, you need to get on. Bro, I'm telling you, bro. Yeah, I ain't never been over there, bro. They be feisty. All of them. Both of them feisty. I mean, they be talking. Real?

Yeah, they feisty. They might be a little bit too feisty for me. I'm a slow boogie. I'm slow motion over here. Yeah, I don't know nothing about that, bro. You on your own there, bro. I'm on my own? Oh, what rail?

What rail is it? Rail Puerto Rico. Oh, yeah, yeah, thank you? What rail is? Rail, Puerto Rico. Oh, thank you. Don't play with me, Ocho. I'm too big of a cat to be played with like a kitten. You know that. I know, but that's one topic I don't want no part of. Okay, okay. I appreciate it. I know she watching.

Baby, you watching? She watching. Matter of fact, the funny thing about it is she downstairs, right? She downstairs? No, I'm not kidding you. No, she's downstairs. But I got the key. I got both sets of keys so she can't get up. So she's watching from the car.

Yeah, so I ain't in for the play because I got to deal with that when she's walking the door. I know. You know what? I appreciate that. No problem. But I tell you what. Hey, guys that's watching. Dominican, Puerto Rico. Yeah, but I. Yeah, you can have that.

Emer wants to know who's the best athlete. I would probably say, obviously, time. But you know what, Ocho? I was in the league when Bo Jackson was in the league. Actually, he was on the Raiders when I was at the Broncos. And if you look at one of the plays, one of his long runs were against the Broncos. And it might have been like a week or two weeks

before he fractured his hip against the Bengals. So, man. Man. Bo, a time. The best athlete? It's got to be Bo a time. Yeah, for me athlete. It's gotta be Bo time. Yeah. For me,

it would have to, you have to be maybe prime time with champ Bailey. What's about pure athlete. Yeah. Crime or champ Bailey. Yeah. Yeah. Two percent.

Both, two, both of them play two, two position players. I mean, yeah, we haven't seen anything like that to this today. For me, unless you played against time

or you actually was on the sidelines when he played, you don't get an appreciation of it. You really don't. To see how he moved and how effortlessly he glided, it's kind of like I want to talk about this earlier, but I played on Thanksgiving, my rookie year. And guess who we played? The Lions.

Guess who the Lions had? Barry. Barry Sanders, yeah. So what do you think he did? Put on a show? Went crazy work. People say, oh, that was, no, no, no, no, no. There'll never, ever be another Barryry you're never gonna see a guy

start with two feet and take off and do what it's unbelievable to see it in person yeah i'm like it almost didn't it almost defies it devised defies gravity it defies logic it defies physics that his joints god only made one person that joints were like ball bearings and that he could the way he could bend and hug and maneuver it's almost like you see cats like when when the animal turns and he turned around like a cheetah and he's turning right there with him that's how barry ankle bone and his knees and his hips that's how they maneuvered like man if i stopped like hey if i was trying to start with both feet knee going there patella going over here hips going to it right hey i'm gonna shatter something like ice hitting the floor it's really that simple joe

yeah that's a good that's a good one that's a good one. That's a good one. Barry, he was special. Oh man, he, he was really bad. I'm fortunate. Like I got an opportunity to play, you know, like the old guard, you know,

Montana and Marino and Elway and Barry and Emmett and Jerry, some of the great defenders, DT, LT, uh, Bruce Reggie, uh, uh,

uh, time, you know, Ray in the modern year, Ray had Ray and Erlacher. And then Time you know Ray in the modern year had Ray and Erlacher and then you know I played Manning and Brady like whoa I kind of got it pretty good over here

my brother you know and then now you see these guys coming like okay but I think the era from when I played you look at the quarterbacks i mean montana was all on the old you know century team and manning and and marino and elway and brady so i got five with a t in i played in the era reggie bruce ray uh jerry rice i think randy Ray Jerry Rice I think Randy Moss was on that team I played against

played against Tony a lot of the offensive linemen I like I mean you know I think well you got Brady and Manning within that era you played against Ray I'm trying to think

Ed Reed I got played against Ed. Paulo Malo. Who else? Rod Wilson. I played against him. He's a teammate of mine. Who else? Shoot.

Damn, T.O. Trying to think who else. I'm talking about these are the elite of the elite so uh I forgot to ask you this I should have asked you this earlier so what was what you have for Thanksgiving today what the plate look like well you ain't see you ain't see my Thanksgiving

plate nah what it look like man tell somebody pull that up for you man real quick man what you had or somebody pull up Thanksgiving plate? Nah, what it look like? Man, tell somebody to pull that up for you, man, real quick, man. What you at? Or somebody... Nah, who? Pull up Ocho plate. Somebody sit at that plate, man, real quick, man.

Look at that plate, man. Look, you see the devil eggs? Man. The dirty rice? The dirty rice, the hams, the mac and cheese? Ocho. The ham, the turkey?

Dirty rice Thanksgiving now? Yeah, man. Devil eggs? Yeah, man. Devil eggs? Is that a Puerto Rican thing? Devil eggs? Nah, I just like devil eggs. Devil eggs is a delicacy. I know, but I'm saying-

It goes in any setting. I'm normally thinking like traditional Thanksgiving, like turkey, dressing, yams. I just said that. I don't like dressing. I got mashed potatoes on here. Yeah, look at that plate now. Fix your glasses so you can see good.

Okay. Yeah, you see it? You see that? I made that. I made the macaroni and the yams. I see that yam up there. I don't know. I don't know. Yeah, I see it? You see that? I made that. I made the macaroni and the yams. I see that. That ham up there. I don't know.

I don't know. Yeah, I made that. Who made the collard greens? What you got the collard greens? You got turkey necks, ham hocks, fatback, pigtails? A little ham hock. Okay. Rare, rare, rare, rare, rare made the collard greens.

I did everything else. You ain't do nothing. You can't cook. I did it. I did everything else. You can't boil water. Now, you know I can cook. Now, I went to Le Cordon Bleu. I ran for a lot of that. You ain't do nothing. You can't cook. I did it. I did everything else. You can't boil water. Now, you know I could cook. Now, I went to La Cordon Bleu right here in Fort Lauderdale.

Don't do that. I spent two years there before I flunked out. That means you can't cook. You know, you flunk out of something. That means you can't do it. No, I flunked out because I left. I left and went and found another job. No, no, no, no.

When you flunk out, that don't mean you left. All right. I didn't mean to use the word flunk. I felt like I did all that I can. I felt I did all I can and took as much information as I could to motherfucking survive and I left. So I didn't mean to say flunk. Yeah, I just left.

I just left. Oh yeah. Please make sure you click that subscribe button. Thank you for getting us to three. Where are we now? 331? We at 33.31. We really thank you. We'll be back tomorrow.

Tomorrow. Immediately following, I think it's Miami. Who does Miami play? Jets. Jets. We will be. So it's not going to be a typical time. The game comes on at three, right?

Yeah. So immediately following the game. Nah, probably, what, 5.30? Probably around 5.30. Give or take. Give or take a few minutes. So guess what? So Thursday, Friday, Monday, Tuesday, we're going to be

back at it. What happens if we hit that 350? What happens if we hit that 350 tomorrow? I don't know if we're going to hit 350 tomorrow. That's asking an awful lot, Ocho. No, it ain't. I'm going to push. I'm going to push. I'm going to go on Instagram. I'm going to go on Instagrams

and I'm going to tell everybody. I'm going to hit all my people and be like, man, tell all your homeboy, man. Yeah, that would be nice, but the drawing's got to be Monday because we already done told people it's going to be Monday. Okay, we told them Monday. Okay, say less. We can't give it to the people

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Appreciate you joining us tonight. I'm your favorite sports uncle, Shannon sharp. He's your favorite number 85. That plate didn't look too spiffy, but last it's all good. Last. The buffet.

Huh? You know what? Now next year, you know what? next year I might nah I can't cut it because you can't cook we're going to have it prepared we're going to have to have somebody world renowned

to whip us up turkey dressing mac and cheese sweet potatoes why would you have somebody world renowned when I can do all that myself you have somebody world renowned when I can do all that myself? You're not world renowned. I just showed you an example of that.

I am. I mean, hey, I can pull my own teeth. Why would I need to go to the dentist when I can pull my own teeth? Because that's what he went to school to do. Nah. I mean, YouTube, you can do everything. You don't need to go to do nah I mean YouTube you can do everything you don't need to go to no god damn dentist

if you need a root canal you can do it yourself right at home you know they say when you're in the law they say you can defend yourself in court but they say you know the person that defends himself in court he has a fool for a client you pull your own teeth you give yourself a root canal you got a fool for a client. You pull your own teeth. You give yourself a root canal.

You got a fool for a patient. Listen, I've done it before, but all right. Yeah, I pulled my own teeth too, but I happened to be six. Nah, I wasn't six. I was 23. Yeah, okay. I was 23. I was in training camp. DT, I can't

But anyway, we'll see you guys tomorrow. in training camp. DT, I can't. But anyway, I'm out. We'll see you guys tomorrow. Thank you for joining us for Nightcap. I'm Shannon Sharp and he's Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson. I love y'all.

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