Nightcap - Nightcap - Unc & Ocho react to Lions beat Rams, Dak Prescott & Cowboys get destroyed by Packers

Episode Date: January 15, 2024

Shannon Sharpe and Chad "Ochocinco" Johnson react to the Detroit Lions beating the Los Angeles Rams 24-34, Dak Prescott and the Dallas Cowboys losing 48-32 to Jordan Love and the Green Bay Packers, wi...ll Jerry Jones fire Mike McCarthy after an embarassing playoff defeat and much more! 00:00 - Introduction04:00 - Lions beat Rams16:00 - Jared Goff won the breakup20:00 - Cowboys lose to Packers38:00 - Is Jerry Jones to blame?48:00 - Is Jordan Love the new Aaron Rodgers01:00:00 - Could Jim Harbaugh or Bill Belichick fix this?01:41:00 - Can Packers upset 49ers?01:50:00 - Much more Nightcap! #Club #VolumeSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:02:31 Welcome to another episode of Nightcap. I'm your favorite sports unk, Shannon Sharp. He's your favorite number 85, route runner, extraordinaire, ring of fame, bingo legend. Ooh, I told you this. I've been trying to tell you this about your cowboys, Ocho,
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Starting point is 00:03:43 Valentine's Day we got the Super. We got Valentine's Day. We got the Super Bowl. We got President's Day. We got, what, St. Patrick's Day right around the corner. And I'm sure we got some birthdays out there. So please go out and get yourself a bottle for you or someone that you love. Ocho, I don't want to waste any time because I want to get to these games. And one of them was a doozy, and the other one was a laugher. The Lions hold on and beat the
Starting point is 00:04:06 rams get their first playoff win in 32 years the lions hosting their first playoff game in 30 years snap the longest in longest postseason win drought guess what and they're gonna get another another one this week because they're gonna face the winner of the tampa philly yeah no one working for stafford. We heard boos from the Detroit crowd when he took the field before and after the game. He played well, but it was not enough. Ocho, what were some of the things that you took away from this ballgame?
Starting point is 00:04:35 Listen, I really enjoyed the ballgame. I really enjoyed the ballgame as opposed to what we had to endure the first time. The first time around 4.30, around some time. Yeah, yeah. this was this was an offensive clinic this was an offensive clinic damn near all four quarters damn the awful quarters staffer looked good golf looked good they moved the ball up and down the field i thought it was going to be a 40 point game for me from each team you know we we didn't. We didn't get that high. We were damn near there. Puka Nakua went
Starting point is 00:05:07 crazy. Brother, wait, let me make sure. I don't want to say the name wrong. Amar St. Brown went crazy. Josh Renner went crazy. Obviously, the Lions coming out with the win today. I'm happy for golf. I'm happy for the culture shift
Starting point is 00:05:23 in which the Lions have been able to do or not the culture shift in which the Lions have been able to do, well, not the Lions, in which Dan Campbell has been able to do since he's gotten there. For a coach to be able to change a culture and turn it into a winning culture in such a short amount of time is unbelievable what he's been able to do.
Starting point is 00:05:41 He was just talking about biting kneecaps not too long ago. Now we're talking about we're in the playoffs after a 32-year hiatus. Right. Man, some good football was played today, man. Very good football. I know the Rams lost, but I'm just saying, there was some good football played today in that second goddamn game.
Starting point is 00:06:00 Matthew Stafford was 25 of 36, 350, 367, two touchdowns, no interceptions. Jerry Goff was 22 of 27, three 50, three 67, two touchdowns, no interceptions. Jerry golf was 22 or 27, two 77, one touchdown. As you mentioned, pulling a Puka Nakua had 10 targets, nine receptions, a buck 81,
Starting point is 00:06:14 which is the most receiving yards in a, in a game, a post-season game by rookie Armand St. Brown had nine targets, a buck 10 on seven catches. They could have called Holden. I thought they were going to call Holden on that last one, on that third down. He held it all the way through
Starting point is 00:06:30 it, Ocho. He got away with one. He did a great job. Go ahead. No, I was going to say he got away with it. Go ahead. And I thought they were going to call it. I don't know what the commentators, I know it was an NBC game, so I'm assuming it was Collinsworth and Tirico on the call.
Starting point is 00:06:47 It would have been interesting to hear what Collinsworth thought, but I thought he grabbed him. I thought he held him throughout the call, which would have given them a first down had they made the call. And who knows, that's a first down. Maybe you get a couple few extra yards. Now you get a try for a field goal, and maybe Detroit has to come down and get a field goal
Starting point is 00:07:05 or a touchdown to beat you. But that was a very well played game. I mean, yeah, you got to give the Lions credit because they've been waiting for this moment because this is a team now just what five years ago, six years ago, what they were 0-16 at one point. Oh, yeah. 0-16.
Starting point is 00:07:21 You lost all your games. All of them. Right right and now here they are with a hey you got another game you got a divisional game at home i can imagine it's gonna be it's gonna be if you thought it was loud and raucous for this wild card game can you imagine we have one win away from an nfc championship game that's crazy who would have thought this you made this move Matthew Stafford you said you know what Matthew hey we'll grant you you know we'll give you an opportunity to move
Starting point is 00:07:52 on we're going to take Jerry Goff and look at what they parlayed this in you get a Jamison Williams in the draft you get a Gibbs in the draft you parlayed that in some nice pieces and so now everybody's benefited. The Rams
Starting point is 00:08:08 like what they got. They won a Super Bowl. The Lions like what they got. They got a nice nucleus around Jared Goff, who's playing really good football. And as long as he stays clean, the Lions will be fine. They get into trouble when he turns the ball over, Ocho.
Starting point is 00:08:24 And they're not going to be able to overcome that because the team is going to get better, better as you go along. But give the Lions credit. They played really well. The Rams had a great season. But it ended in Detroit. Matthew Stafford did not get the homecoming, the win in the homecoming game that he thought he would.
Starting point is 00:08:40 But I thought he played exceptional. He took some shots. And the way he threw the ball man can he throw the ball or what people i like with go ahead yeah go ahead i like i like there's a term that i hear jay cutler use all the time he's a great ball spinner yes he's a great ball spinner and both of them both of them have fabulous arms, their mechanics, the arm angles, the ability to throw off balance, to be able to adjust based on what arm angles,
Starting point is 00:09:11 depending on who's in front of them. If there's somebody draped over the receiver, they could put it in a certain position where only the receiver can catch it. Wow. Really nice. Really nice. You watch Matthew Stafford,
Starting point is 00:09:21 and you watch him throw the balls. He can throw the ball over the top. Yeah. Then all of a sudden, he dropped down, he throws throws it three quarters he'll throw a completely sard arm and you like the one he threw to uh uh the little receiver who caught I mean there was no separation two two and he caught two two yes yeah he oh joe yeah they're not they're not grantee you they're not five quarterbacks that could have made that throw in that tight window right there than what
Starting point is 00:09:47 Matthew Stafford did. And like I said, he can flat out spin the football. Hey, did you see the no-look pass a couple times when he threw to the flat? He threw to the flat, but looking straight ahead? Yes. Slick.
Starting point is 00:10:02 I mean, look, we've seen Favre throw no-looks, but what must impress me is that this man threw a no look in the super bowl with the when the chips across the middle the middle of the field yeah i remember that on the third down yeah i remember that play i remember that play they rolled a safety down and he had to look him off he's like i ain't go i ain't going there. But he was impressive. They couldn't get a stop to get them the ball back, give the Lions offense credit.
Starting point is 00:10:32 The Lions offense, they did it because you know we can't give you the ball back in this situation because if we give you the ball back, there's a chance you're going to get the ball, the momentum, because now you have the momentum and you're probably going to go down and kick a field goal or at least an attempt to field goal with a chance to win the ball game. And so give the Lions credit.
Starting point is 00:10:50 Give Dan Campbell credit, that team, because they've come a long way. Now Detroit seems to be like a destination where free agents would want to go because they're winning. The culture, yeah, you know, hey, you got to have the right mentality to play for him now right because he's a he's a blue collar hard nose grind type of a coach right so hey you know what you're getting in when you go to Detroit because Detroit is blue column they they they car factories up there it's hard right it's hard up in Detroit right and that's the type of team that
Starting point is 00:11:22 he's built uh those guys believe in him. Jared Goff has Armond St. Brown. He didn't make the Pro Bowl, but he showed you why he's a first-team All-Pro. All-Pro, yeah. Most definitely. Let me ask you a question. Do you think, as players, what would matter to you more? What do you think
Starting point is 00:11:39 players value more? Being an All-Pro or going to the pro bowl what do you what do you think i'd rather be an all pro okay and personally because you remember ocho they don't go to hawaii anymore oh they go to orlando or they go to vegas and it's not the game anymore it's a skills competition yeah it ain't the same okay and i don't want people to take this the wrong way people are we're sharing the same it's a huge honor. But a lot of the luster has gone because you're not growing to Hawaii.
Starting point is 00:12:08 Going to Orlando? What the hell is that? I used to want to go. Man, I'll get me a Mai Tai. I'm going to get me a blue of wine. I'm going to be drinking out of pineapple. So you got an opportunity to take your significant other, your wife or your family. You go across to Hawaii. You get an opportunity to relax for a week.
Starting point is 00:12:23 Hell, you'll go to Orlando anytime. Yeah. You can go to Vegas anytime. Yeah, I don't think players will fully understand the joy and the pleasure it was to actually make the Pro Bowl and what an honor it was to make the Pro Bowl back during that time when we were playing. Listen, you think about that 10-hour flight, depending on where you're coming from, or maybe if you're already on the West Coast, you still got five hours to go. Yes. on where you're coming from or maybe maybe if you're already on the west coast you still got five hours ago yes family your friends being in hawaii the culture the experiences the traveling the uh the traveling the sightseeing some of the things you have to do and you get to take a part
Starting point is 00:12:56 in being over in hawaii for for a whole week and then you had the game on the back end listen it was it was it was an experience like no other in an honor you know and when you made the pro bowl back then like oh man and you oh so you remember now it used to be um the pro bowl was played after the super bowl right so a lot of times teams the guys that made it they were only coming off the super bowl right or sometimes there were the guys that lost the super bowl right and so a lot of times guys had appearances at the Super Bowl. So a lot of the guys that were playing in the game was coming from the Super Bowl.
Starting point is 00:13:32 Right. Yeah. And so, you know, a lot of times guys would get there early with their family. They might check in a day early or something like that just to get an opportunity to relax. And then by the time, you know, we arrived, you know, I would like if I wasn't actually playing in the obviously i would arrive but guys would already be there with
Starting point is 00:13:49 their family and they'd be sitting around watching the watching the game yeah yeah um but it was it was it was a great but i do i agree ocho i think the all pro is is a bigger honor right and i think because the game is no longer played uh in haw the lust of Ochoa, I get it. But they had to do away with the game because it wasn't tackle football anymore. It was an embarrassment. And I told the guys, and I said, look, I know you know, bro, I'm not old school, but it's tackle football. You can't just touch the guy on the butt and then talk about the guy. Stop.
Starting point is 00:14:24 That's not football. Matter of fact, when you think about it, you think about this. I'm thinking about the time when I played. I remember myself, Steve McNair, Peyton Manning, Ray Lewis, a couple of the fellas used to think the way the game is played now, it was somewhat like that a little bit. But we played serious. We thuddened. Yeah. We thuddened.
Starting point is 00:14:43 Well, we hit that fourth quarter. Yes. And Ray Lewis say, man, listen, it's money time. It thudding. Yeah. We thudding. Well, we hit that fourth quarter. Yes. And Ray Lewis say, man, listen, it's money time. It's go time. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:14:49 We need that money because we got to cover the expenses that we didn't have for the week we've been here. Oh, man, man,
Starting point is 00:14:55 man, people started playing, started playing serious. Well, we were playing serious. We weren't, we weren't bullshitting. Well,
Starting point is 00:15:01 that fourth quarter, the Pro Bowl back then, man, Sean Taylor coming down here. Oh, yeah, we hit the poor bribe of Mormon. But see, what happened, Ocho, is that the money increased. All of a sudden, it was $25,000, $50,000, I think $50,000, $75,000. I remember for my whole career, it was $10,000 to the winners. It was $5,000 to the losers.
Starting point is 00:15:22 That's it? But that was it. Damn. That was it. That was it, Ocho. That was it. And like you said, you know, everybody, you know, hey, ain't nobody trying to get embarrassed now. So don't be going out there trying to run around, hey, somebody
Starting point is 00:15:35 knocked you, you know, what, in the dirt. Right, right, right. So don't be out there trying to embarrass someone because they're going to get you now. But come fourth quarter, you automatically knew. It's go time. Button your chair strap up. Tie your shoulder pads up. Guys trying to get paid.
Starting point is 00:15:51 Oh, yeah. Like you said, guys had incurred expenses. They had brought family members over there. That room is $200 a night. You got about six or seven people at $200 a night and you feed them. So I got to recoup some of that money So I got to recoup some of that money. Yeah, some.
Starting point is 00:16:07 I got to recoup some of that money. But it was a great time to get an opportunity to sit around, talk football and get an opportunity to meet and hang out with guys that we normally wouldn't get an opportunity to hang out with and sit around and talk with. It's not like it is now. I mean, these guys now, they're a lot more. Guys socialize a lot more in today's game
Starting point is 00:16:26 than what they did back then. Well, obviously, you know, having social media also bridges the gap. It made it a lot easier for you not to have to be face-to-face. So even if you don't see each other during, I mean, after football season or during football season, social media bridges the gap anyway. So you're always right there in somebody's face regardless
Starting point is 00:16:41 even though it's via social media. Yep. Jared Goff is the first quarterback to ever win a playoff game against a team he previously started a playoff game for. So Jared Goff should be, he should be, I'm sure he's proud because he said it wasn't that he ended up because both were number one picks, Stafford for Detroit, Jared Goff for the Rams. It's not that it was how it was
Starting point is 00:17:06 done and even sean mcveigh said it could have been handled better right but at the end of the day oh joe and this is what i always tell people when you're trying to break up with someone and that person doesn't want to break up what's the easy way to do it there There is none. Jared Goff didn't want to be traded. He didn't want to leave LA. So what's an easier way to tell him, son, we think we are better without you. You tell your significant other. Ray will
Starting point is 00:17:35 tell you, Ocho, I think I could be better with someone else. Ain't no easy way to say that. Nah, ain't no easy way. So, you know, and he's like, you know, the chip will never leave, ain't no easy way. So, you know, and he's like, you know, Chip will never leave me. And Sean McVay saying, you know, hey, you know, we could have handled that situation
Starting point is 00:17:52 better. I just don't know of an easier way to sell someone you don't want them anymore. Yeah. If, Chad, if you can chime in and say what's an easier way when you want said individual. Now, if both of y'all don't want each other, it's easy to go, you know,
Starting point is 00:18:08 it's mutual interest. Right. But, but, when someone still wants to be there, and the other party, you know, hey, you know, I just can't, no, excuse me. I just want to say, you know, things haven't been going well
Starting point is 00:18:25 and I just I appreciate everything that you've done and yeah man ain't nobody trying to hear that old joke you can't get them years back you can't get them years back
Starting point is 00:18:33 and one thing you can't get back too you can't get back time yeah and I don't like it being wasted so basically you're wasting golf time
Starting point is 00:18:41 because you couldn't you couldn't see himself getting you over the hump but it was the right decision though wasn't see himself getting you over the hump. But it was the right decision though, wasn't it? It was the right decision because they won the Super Bowl. Yeah. That's tough, man. And you look at Stafford.
Starting point is 00:18:53 He got the all-time most receiving yards in a single season with Calvin Johnson. He got the triple crown. I believe if you look at Cooper Cupp's regular season, combined it with the playoffs, it's the greatest statistical season for a wide receiver in NFL history.
Starting point is 00:19:09 Then you tap in with Puka Nakua. Most receptions in the season for a rookie. Most receiving yards for a rookie. So Matthews, he's doing something, right? He's doing something, right? He is a spinner of the ball. He is a spinner of the ball he is a spinner of the ball he can he can do it yeah he can do it so congratulations to the lions you're moving on
Starting point is 00:19:32 you have another game uh in detroit yeah you get the winner of the philadelphia eagles and the tampa bay buccaneers yeah uh they have to feel good because think about it they was like man after they lost that game to Dallas, they dropped from the second to the third seed. And like, hey, we win this game. Dallas is going to do what they do. We're going to have to go on the road, either go to San Francisco or go to Dallas. Lo and behold, you never know, Ocho.
Starting point is 00:19:56 Yeah. You never know. Now they get a second game at home. You never know, Ocho. You might get a third game at home, Ocho. You never know. Yeah. But you get that NFC championship at home. You never know, Ocho. You might get a third game at home, Ocho. You never know. Yeah, but you get that NFC Championship at home. Can you imagine? At home. Can you imagine?
Starting point is 00:20:13 Cowboys suffer. In my estimation, this is the most humiliating. This is the most pathetic. This is the most embarrassing loss, playoff loss for the Cowboys. Because Ocho, at one point in time, they were
Starting point is 00:20:28 down 48-16. Now, you can look at the final scores and, man, if you didn't watch the game, you're like, oh, okay, they were only two scores. Yeah, it was closer than you thought. No, it wasn't. No, it wasn't. Remember when the Cowboys beat the Commanders on Thanksgiving, 45-10?
Starting point is 00:20:43 Just what Jerry said. I don't know if I've had a day like this, and I'll include them all. I'll put the Super Bowls in there. I don't know if I've had a better day than with the Cowboys than today. Jerry said he thinks this year's Cowboys team could go all the way to the Super Bowl. Hold on. I got more for you, Ocho. Remember, Micah, in week one, we're making a statement. I've been trying to make. Hold on. I got more for you, Ocho. Remember, Micah, in week one, we're making a statement.
Starting point is 00:21:08 I've been trying to make, hold on. We're making the statement that I've been trying to make. We're the best defense in the National Football League. Today, Micah Parsons showed up in a Bobby Boucher jersey. Everybody know Waterboy. Bobby Boucher red shot. Now, if you show up in a Bobby Boucher jersey, you got a red shot Ocho Michael Parsons has
Starting point is 00:21:27 one quarterback pressure on 19 rushes the lowest pressure rate in a game in his NFL career the green but I kept telling you Ocho I tried to tell you about that defense. I tried to tell you all year about this Cowboys team.
Starting point is 00:21:49 I said, Ocho, if that defense do not turn you over, if they don't get scooping scores and pick sixes and set that offense up, I said, the marginals, Ocho, no, man, Dak, man, Dak, CD. Now, you look at the stats. Oh, they're going to have great stats. You look at these stats. Hold on, let me get it. Hold on, let me pull this up here i gotta get oh that threw for 400 yards cd look at what how many yards they had when the score was six minutes left in the ball game and the score
Starting point is 00:22:14 was 48 16 right what did that have yeah empty calories yeah you when you eat empty calories you get fat you get fat it's tough people gonna It's tough. People are going to look at you. It's tough. Aaron Jones had two rush touchdowns all year. He had three in one game. Yeah. 21 for a buck 18. Ran through him.
Starting point is 00:22:36 Went through him like farm water through a tourist. Yeah. You know what happens when you go out of the country and you drink water. What happens? It runs. It runs. As get it runs. As a matter of fact, that's how Aaron Jones went through them.
Starting point is 00:22:48 Anytime you go to Mexico, they tell you the first thing to do, don't drink the water. Montezuma's revenge. Listen, tonight, I even asked myself after watching the game,
Starting point is 00:22:59 the loss in itself, I felt bad for Cowboys fans. Oh, no, I don't. I felt bad because every year, stay with me, baby. Every year, it's the same thing. It's the same thing. This is our year.
Starting point is 00:23:13 The regular season goes beautiful. You win some of the games you're supposed to win. Okay, you have a few slip-ups, but then you get back on track and it puts all the fans in a position of hope. Then you have Jerry Jones.
Starting point is 00:23:28 Then you have Jerry Jones. He's always coming out. He's always at the forefront. He's always the focal point of everything that's going on. He does all the talking for the team. He knows the injuries. He reports who's going to play, who's not going to play. I mean, this is the best team we've ever had.
Starting point is 00:23:42 I think part of the problem is Jerry. In 28 years, they haven't won. They haven't won. They've had great seasons the past 20 years. But for some reason, Jerry Jones always being at the forefront, always being the focal point of the team. We know you're the owner. How about just taking a backseat for a change?
Starting point is 00:23:58 How about taking a backseat for a change and taking some of the pressure, the endured pressure that the team already going to have because they got the star on the helmet. We don't need you adding fuel to the fire. Just allow them boys to go out there and just play. I'm not saying that's the reason why they lost. I'm just saying, Jerry, let's try a different approach. He done tried everything.
Starting point is 00:24:16 Let's try a different approach for a change. After he done been nasty to Jimmy, talking about he going to put him and he'll put who he want in the ring of fame when he want to. He tried to change the mojo. He put Jimmy Johnson in the ring of fame trying to change the mojo. Didn't work. Right, right, right.
Starting point is 00:24:32 Oh, trying to change the karma. You know why you have bad karma? You got to always do right by people. Always. Always do right. And Mike McCarthy did not do right by Kellen Moore. Oh, I want to call the plays. We gonna run the ball more. We gonna run the ball.
Starting point is 00:24:48 You look worse this year than you did last two years with Kellen Moore calling the plays. You couldn't run the football. You didn't run the football and the defense. Oh, I'm so this pressure defense. I keep telling you you play that nickel defense with those safety
Starting point is 00:25:04 player linebackers, they ain't got enough bricks in their back pocket. So when them guards dig up on them and those tight ends get on those little small ass linebackers, those linebackers, their safety's really, you see what's happening? Aaron Jones getting eight, nine, ten yards a clip. That's what happened. You better have somebody that can drop anchor.
Starting point is 00:25:21 I mean, listen, we saw it when they played the Bills. We saw it when they played the Cardinals. How were they successful? You saw it when they played 49ers. When they played the 49ers. How were those teams successful, we saw it when they played the Bills. We saw it when they played the Cardinals. How were they successful? You saw it when they played 49ers. When they played the 49ers. How were those teams successful? You saw it when they played the Eagles. When the Eagles, yeah.
Starting point is 00:25:31 Running the ball. Running the ball. I mean, we're not talking about the outside. We're talking about straight, right downhill. Right downhill. Because defensively, they are a little undersized.
Starting point is 00:25:40 They're a little undersized. Sideline to sideline, oh man, they run with you all day. Like a 4x1 team. Like a 4x1 track team, they run with you all day. But tonight, listen, tonight's loss, it was, I hate using the word pathetic. I hate saying that. I hate saying it was humiliating.
Starting point is 00:25:58 I hate saying that. And I'm one, this is hard for me to do because you know how I am. I even tweeted when the game got out of hand, I say, Twitter, can y'all please find a reason? Give me something. Give me an idea because I know I'm going to go crazy on the Cowboys. Is there anything I can do? Is there anything I can say to defend what the fuck they put out there today? No.
Starting point is 00:26:17 There was nothing. Nothing. So I have no choice. My back is against the ball. And it pains me to have to say that shit was embarrassing. Yeah. For us. I'm a football fan, as a former player, because I thought this was our year. Look, I'm saying our year like I'm part of the Cowboys. I'm a fan of football, so I thought it was their year. I was excited. I was excited. I'm ready for that,
Starting point is 00:26:41 the motherfucking get to the goddamn promised land and get all these motherfuckers off his back. Y'all forgive me for cursing. Y'all stay with me for a little bit now because I'm upset. I thought it was our year. Why are you upset? Huh? I've been prepared.
Starting point is 00:26:54 Ocho, you see what I'm saying? I prepared you this. See, like you said, you want financial literacy. You want people to listen to you when you give them advice. Right, right. You want people to take your advice.
Starting point is 00:27:02 Right. I've been preparing you this for 19 weeks. I wanted to prove you wrong i want i wanted dac and that team and that offense and that defense to prove you wrong i wanted dac and that team and that offense to prove everything they say are wrong i wanted to prove stephen a smith wrong and at times it looked good throughout the season at times it looked good there. There were some slip-ups. There were some stalls. But I said, you know what? Come hell or high water, come playoff time, I guarantee you it was going to be a different Cowboys team.
Starting point is 00:27:32 Listen, the first series, something was off. The first series, the energy, the body language. Yeah, it was off. Green Bay was knee-deep in them. That's what was off. Green Bay got the ball and went right down the field. Ocho, do you know how demoralizing it is when the base of your team is the defense
Starting point is 00:27:49 and a young team that average 24 years of age gets the football and go right down the field? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. You got the football, Ocho. Think about it. You win the toss.
Starting point is 00:28:02 Yeah. You deferred. Yeah, you deferred. So why you defer you say i want my dogs out there the defense join us and give me all you got join us and give me all you got whatever you got give me give me some of that i keep telling people all along see people laugh when i say the cowboys are like duke freshman hoopers one and done oh that's what they are you know when you go to duke are you a basketball player? You're one and done.
Starting point is 00:28:25 You got to be good, though. Zion, Kyrie, Tatum, Ingram, they're one and done. You got to be that boy. Yeah. Yeah. Cowboys come to the playoff time, one and done. Yeah. They do all that yapping.
Starting point is 00:28:37 Yeah. Take you to church, T-Pain Church. Yeah. Man, this is embarrassing. They got a fountain water hung on them, a sprinkle me. Big time. Omo Fitty Burger, huh? At home.
Starting point is 00:28:53 Omo's a Fitty Burger. Oh, do you remember? We won 16 straight at home. We stole 50. We stole 127 points a game at home. Yeah. Man. I thought that's what we were going to get tonight.
Starting point is 00:29:11 I really thought that's what we were going to get tonight. I was boarding my plane, 430. I tell you no lie. I was leaving Atlanta. I said, baby, this is going to be the motherfucking day where I start on the helmet, shut everybody up. So I was ready. I'm excited for nightcap.
Starting point is 00:29:28 I'm excited for nightcap because I know I'm going to be able to fire back at everybody that says something negative about the Cowboys. As a fan, I wanted this for that. As someone on the outside looking in, and I understand what he has to deal with
Starting point is 00:29:42 because it's America's team. I remember Micahhi Parsons, Micah Parsons complaining earlier. Why y'all always on Dak's head? Why y'all always talk about him? Now we on your head, not my head.
Starting point is 00:29:52 Now you got all these other quarterbacks out here. Y'all don't treat, y'all don't treat them the same way y'all treat Dak. Now you have a better understanding on why. Now you have a better
Starting point is 00:30:00 understanding on why because for one, you got your owner that won't get out of the team's way in general. Bumping his gums. Always bumping his gum. And I hear people talk about, well, yeah, maybe they need to go get Bill Belichick.
Starting point is 00:30:13 You think Bill Belichick, he don't even let his own players talk. You think he's going to come to that madness over there? No. Where he have no power and Jerry Jones going to relinquish the power so he can build a team that he needs to to be adequate and compete week in and week out, especially in the playoffs. So this doesn't happen again?
Starting point is 00:30:31 Probably not. Them young boys was cooking. I don't care who the DBs were, whatever side they line up on. Romeo Dobbs said, give me him. Krispy Kreme one side. They said,
Starting point is 00:30:42 we got all the Krispy Kremes you want on one side. Barbecue chicken on the other. Yeah. Krispy Kreme one side. They said, we got all the Krispy Kremes you want on one side. Barbecue chicken on the other. Yeah. Dobbs, Watson, you know, Reed, Melvin. And you know what the funny thing is? When you're young, when you're young like that, when you're young like Jordan Love, and you're young like that supporting cat Jordan Love has to work with. Listen, we ain't even supposed to be here to begin with
Starting point is 00:31:05 and we ain't got nothing to worry about. So we just go out here and play free. You know what it feels like to play free? To have no worries? Hey, we ain't supposed to be here any goddamn where. It's no different than the motherfucking Texans. We're the pressure. We have nothing to lose.
Starting point is 00:31:20 We're not supposed to be here anyway. So it's easy to go out there and just play free. Free will, nothing to worry about and just have fun because at the end here anyway. So it's easy to go out there and just play free. Free will, nothing to worry about, and just have fun. Because at the end of the day, it's still football. On the other side, on the flip side of things, the Cowboys, look what all that comes with.
Starting point is 00:31:36 Offensively, why do they look so different today? Off the rip, the first series, something was off. Everybody's body language. You could tell something was off. Everybody's body language. You could tell something was off. CD and goddamn Dak. Listen, CD and Dak, they always in sync, especially
Starting point is 00:31:52 off the rip. Look at the numbers they put up the past five, six weeks ago. But all of a sudden, the night is different. In the game where it matters the fucking most. Oh, Joe. Oh, God forgive me. I keep cursing. My bad. My bad. I'm sorry. Oh, Joe. I know, because you hurt. You hurt. You want to come in here. You want to get on. Oh, God forgive me. I keep cursing. My bad. My bad. I'm sorry. Oh, Joe. I know because you hurt. You hurt.
Starting point is 00:32:06 You want to come in here. You want to get on. Oh, you want to come in here. Oh, God. I did. I ain't got no leverage. I ain't got no leverage. No.
Starting point is 00:32:15 No. No, you don't. And they knew. And I knew it. That pressure. You see what happens when you play at home? The only difference is that when you play at home and you lose, you got 85,000 fans leaving that stadium. And you see, they wanted home field.
Starting point is 00:32:32 We the number two seed. Okay, so now what you going to do with it? They get the ball and go down the field and score on it. Uh-oh. You punt. They get the ball and go back down the field. Uh-oh. Damn.
Starting point is 00:32:47 All of a sudden, they get the ball and go down again. field oh oh damn all of a sudden they get the ball and go down again oh oh oh oh and then we know when they go that motion and they try to run that three by one we know the first guy gonna go through and that gonna try to hit CD Savage passed it off say I ain't even worried about you throwing to Brandon Cook
Starting point is 00:33:02 because on film I've never seen you throw him that slam right from the spot you throw to CD you throw to the second guy he passed it off, say, I ain't even worried about you throwing to Brandon Cooks because on film, I've never seen you throw him that slam right from the slot. You throw the CD, you throw the second guy. He passed it off and boop boop. Came and got it. Came and got it. Uh, hello. How may I help you? Yes, I'd like to have a reservation for six. Uh, when will you be arriving?
Starting point is 00:33:18 I'm pulling up right now. You're the house he went. Yeah. Hey, listen. Oh, it hurt. They're very smart. Very smart on Safford's part. Listen, that ain't nothing but film study, understanding formation, and route recognition
Starting point is 00:33:31 and all what's coming. Because he sat right in between the one and the two. Yes! He could have went with Brandon Bakes right away. He let it go. Being nosy like a goddamn robber
Starting point is 00:33:41 and came on down. He beat CD to the goddamn ball. Right. Because here's the thing, Ocho. On film, I've never seen you throw Brandon Cooks the ball. Why would you throw a 5'6 or slant over the middle? Right. I know you trying to clear so that you
Starting point is 00:33:58 have the bigger window for the bigger receiver coming in behind you. Savage, pretend like, oh, yeah, I'm going to go. No, I'm not. I think I'll just stay right here and wait. And that's tough, man. That's tough. In a situation like that, Ocho, just don't drop it. Right.
Starting point is 00:34:14 Because the ball's coming. You're not going to do what you haven't done all year. And all year, what have they done in a situation like that? Throw the ball to CD. Yeah, throw the number two every time. Actually, they shouldn't even got a touchdown because DeAndre Campbell dropped another pick. Dak should have had three picks right before
Starting point is 00:34:29 the half. He undercut Jake Ferguson and dropped it. Matter of fact, then on the fourth down, the left guard moved. Yeah, they didn't call it. They didn't call it, though. They didn't call it. He moved. They didn't call it. But you know who pick was nice, though? Which was some great defense. O-O-A Jire. Boy, though? Which was some great defense. Oh, oh, hey, Jair.
Starting point is 00:34:46 Boy. And I tweeted before the game. I say I'm curious and I'm excited about the matchup today because I wonder if Jair and CeeDee Lamb, I wonder if he would follow. Like I said, I understand their strengths. And I know Jair is really, really good in man-to-man and being up there in bump and run.
Starting point is 00:35:01 And he showed you a small sample size of that in that bump and run play. Excuse. It was damn near a jerk release from the outside. Damn near a jerk release. And man, he was on that. He was on Brandon on that. But here's the thing.
Starting point is 00:35:16 Cooks is a small receiver, so it's hard for him to play through contact. Right. Okay, I see. You see how when Jarhead came, how he turned him? So now, normally a big body, you're going to collide and everybody go their separate way in the
Starting point is 00:35:31 ball, hit the dirt or something. But Cooks is such a small receiver, it's hard for him to play through contact. So he needs space to operate in. You're asking an awful lot and he included. You're asking an awful lot. And he included.
Starting point is 00:35:46 Listen. You see that in shotgun. It takes two steps to pull up. You ain't ready to go from there. You're going to slam. You heard what you just said? Brandon Cook's got to create the space. You got to create the space.
Starting point is 00:36:02 If you're a smaller receiver, then you have to win. But what you do best, using your footwork, being able to transition, get in and out. Take Zaire Alexander somewhere he think you're going and bring his ass back on home.
Starting point is 00:36:14 Somewhere where you're not going to be. But he wasn't able to do that. He was impatient on the route and coming back in. Hell, he didn't sell it enough. Wasn't nobody buying that the first time. That's why Zaire was able
Starting point is 00:36:24 to beat him back inside. Zaire said, I ain't buying that, too. Four dollars. Second of all, Hocho, if you in the shotgun. Right. And Zaire, if you watch him, he's cluing. That gets the ball and pulls up. He ain't finna throw no goal.
Starting point is 00:36:37 No, no, no, no. He's going to slam. No. I'm driving. Right. I'm driving. And I got a five foot, I got a five foot six, five foot seven, 170 pound receiver. I'm going to play through him.
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Starting point is 00:40:09 We got 83,000 people live in the chat. Please, guys, if you're in the chat, make sure you hit that subscribe button. Make sure you hit that like button. Guys, we really appreciate this. 83,000? 83,000. Listen, I'd like to tell all 83,000 of you watching, this ain't really me. I don't curse like this. I'm a little upset. I apologize
Starting point is 00:40:28 for you on behalf of myself and my family. I apologize. I don't move like that. Yeah, but see, he don't want to listen to me. I try to prepare him. What I try to do, I try to prepare my co-host, which is Ocho. I try to prepare him for this moment. I said,
Starting point is 00:40:44 Ocho, you're going to get your hopes up. Every year you turn around, this is the Cowboys, this is their best chance. What's so different about this chance? I remember when they had 10 pro bowlers. I remember when they had Tony Romo, they had Marion the Barbarian, they had Jason Witten, they had T.O.,
Starting point is 00:41:00 they had D. Ware, they had 10 pro bowlers. So why was that? I remember when Dak, when they had, look at all the all pros, Tyron Smith is the all pro. The left guard is the all pro.
Starting point is 00:41:11 Zach Martin is an all pro. Your quarterback is an all pro. CD Lamb is an all pro. Y'all keep telling me this is their best chance. Every year is their best chance. Nobody has drafted more pro bowlers since 2010. Other than the Kansas city chiefs, the since 2010 other than the Kansas City Chiefs. The only difference is the Kansas City
Starting point is 00:41:27 Chiefs have been to three Super Bowls, one, two. The Cowboys ain't been to squad douche. Well, I know what the common denominator is on why things keep failing with the Cowboys. Guess who the problem is and why they keep losing? Guess who the motherfucking problem is and why they keep losing Every single year
Starting point is 00:41:45 28 years Guess who the common denominator is All the pieces to the puzzle Every year The Cowboys play good goddamn football And get sent the fuck home In the first round Guess who the problem is
Starting point is 00:41:54 Who? Guess who's still there No matter All the players change And they always have a successful Who? Jerry Say his name loud and clear.
Starting point is 00:42:05 You blaming Jerry? That's the problem. Jerry Jones is the reason why they can't get past the first round. That's the problem. Uh-uh. Oh, no. That's the elephant in the room.
Starting point is 00:42:17 That's the elephant in the room. The elephant in the room is that the big guy... Hold on. Wait a minute. We got a guy that's second-team all-pro. The quarterback, second-team all-pro. Did he look like a second-team a guy that's second team on pro. The quarterback, second team on pro. Did he look like a second team on pro?
Starting point is 00:42:27 Not tonight. No. Not tonight. In a game where it matters most. Listen, I'm with you. I'm with you when you're right. Stay with me. I'm with you when you're right.
Starting point is 00:42:36 DeRon Bland. He had five pick sixes. How he look today? Crispy cream. Crispy cream. It's one of them days. Some days you go to work, you ain't never had a bad day at work. Some days,
Starting point is 00:42:49 listen, matter of fact, you ever study for a test? Huh? I remember studying for the SAT. I remember studying for the SAT and I said, I know when I go and take this test, come game time, I'm finna pass this shit. Shit, boy, when I went and took
Starting point is 00:43:06 the SAT, I feel that motherfucker like a motherfucker. As much as I studied, sometimes you don't have the game you want to. Sometimes it don't happen. Listen, I had hopes and aspirations of going to University of Miami, a goddamn University of Florida or Florida State.
Starting point is 00:43:22 I took the SAT, boy, I ended up at Lentz University, NAIA, school out there in Lansing, Oklahoma. They could have gave you the answer to the SAT. You weren't passing it. You weren't passing that test. You and I both know you weren't passing the SAT, even with the answer.
Starting point is 00:43:37 You're going to write them both down wrong. Man, get out of here, man. I don't know what you're talking about. I was just trying to give you a good analogy, a good scenario. Ocho, you know in a game like this, your big guns,
Starting point is 00:43:52 what makes Tom great? See, people want to say, well, Tom played big in big moments. Always. That's what makes Mahomes play big in big moments. Aaron Rodgers didn'tomes plays big in big moments. Right. Aaron Rodgers didn't play big enough in big moments.
Starting point is 00:44:09 As great as he is in big moments, he hasn't played well as Mahomes. He hasn't played well as Brady. That's the difference. Brady played in big moments. It's hard. When you look at Brady, think about all the games, the playoff games that he played. Right, right. It's hard to go back and say you know what you might say two or three times Brady didn't have it but nine times out of ten or eight and a half times out of ten Brady brought his a game and you
Starting point is 00:44:36 know what you know you know the key thing is it's not just about Brady bringing his a game because Brady can't bring his a game because everybody else got to be on point too not only did Brady bring his a game but a supporting cast during those big moments and those big times in playoffs when it mattered most, they also came through. They also were on point. How many times in those big moments have those guys shown up though? See, Brady guys have been in those moments and they've shown up. Seemingly every time the Cowboys get in those big moments, they get one and done. The moments seem to be too big. See, that's why I keep telling y'all,
Starting point is 00:45:10 stop talking about, oh, this team reminds me of the Cowboys Super Bowl. No, they don't. No, they don't. Who said that? Who said that? Who said that? Jeremy said that foolishness. So who is the common denominator
Starting point is 00:45:23 every time the goddamn Cowboys get sent home that keep putting the pressure and giving us hope? I'm not even a Cowboy fan, but goddamn Jerry gave me hope. That's why I was standing on 10 about business about the Cowboys because of Jerry Jones. So Jerry let me down. He let all of us down.
Starting point is 00:45:43 Stop talking. Go to the background. Be an owner. We know who owns the Cowboys. We know that. Let them boys play football without you adding all the goddamn pressure
Starting point is 00:45:53 on top of them. Nah. I'm not excusing. I'm not excusing the bullshit they put, they showed tonight. I'm not excusing that. That's what the players.
Starting point is 00:46:00 Goddamn, Jerry, come on, man. No, no. 28 years. 28, you had plenty times. Nope. I done saw so many coaches get fired. I done saw them fire Garrett, Jason Garrett. Jason Garrett.
Starting point is 00:46:14 I done saw them fire so many different coaches and defensive coordinators. At some point in time, hold them sorry-ass defensive players accountable. They gave up 40, Walter. 48. 48. 48. 48. Green Bay went up and down the field until they put the backup quarterback in. Right.
Starting point is 00:46:30 Up and down the field. Let me tell you how little they thought of the Cowboys defense. On fourth and two, they go for it. Right. Instead of kicking the field goal and going up, what, 27? They say, nah, we gonna go at 35.
Starting point is 00:46:44 That was a statement. Somebody was making a statement. Somebody was making a statement. I'm not sure who the statement was to. No, we don't care about y'all because y'all do all that yapping. Y'all do all this talking. Ah, yeah, we this. We're going to be historic.
Starting point is 00:46:56 I don't know the historic defense that's giving up 48, 42, how many points they gave up against Philly. Buffalo went up and down the field against them. I don't know what historic defense ever did that. I have a question. I got an answer for you, too. Matter of fact, Chad, I have a question for y'all, too. So you can chime in on this.
Starting point is 00:47:16 Where do we go from here? Mike McCarthy has lost his job, obviously. What do you say? Yes? You think they're going to find? Man, I heard, if i'm not mistaken and don't don't get me wrong i don't i don't have no sources i'm the only source i know but i i did read somewhere that mike mccarthy's future depended on the outcome of this game and what
Starting point is 00:47:35 they did in the playoffs do you think he did enough to require him to return next year i i think i think they got exactly where i thought they would be i didn't expect them return next year? I think they got exactly where I thought they would be. I didn't expect them to go to the Super Bowl. You didn't expect them to go to the Super Bowl after the season they had? No. Because guess what? Guess how many games they won
Starting point is 00:47:58 last year, Ocho? Twelve. Ocho, guess how many games they won the year before that, Ocho? Twelve. So what was different about this year than last year? It was just one, it was 22. The other year was 23. And this year it was 24. The only thing changed was the year.
Starting point is 00:48:12 Nothing else changed. Your quarterback is the same. The players are the same. So you tell me what changed. Dan Quinn is still your defensive coordinator. Mike McCarthy is still your head coach. I'll see now. Because you remember, Kelly Moore, he wanted all these flashy stats.
Starting point is 00:48:27 He just wanted to throw the ball around. Hold on. If somebody throw the ball 60 times, you had 60 pass attempts, 21, 23, 24, 25. You had 85 plays. You ran double the amount of plays as the Packers. Well, some of that was on the back end in garbage time, though.
Starting point is 00:48:49 That's what I know. You know, the calorie that. See, we call these Prescottians. We call these Prescottians. When you look up there and say, man, that man threw for 400 yards. Go back and look and see how many yards he had when the score was 48-16.
Starting point is 00:49:07 See how many catches in yards CeeDee Lamb had when the score was 48-16. Because see, you're going to look at this. I mean, the man had 17 targets. I thought the man had a hole in his hand. Because every time that threw, it took... That pressure, Ocho.
Starting point is 00:49:21 That pressure. They got all them catches. The number one thing that kill a dream is expectations. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And guess who put the expectations on everybody? It wasn't the players.
Starting point is 00:49:36 The players weren't doing nothing. You believed in them. You believed in them. And you yelling at me. I said, Ocho, why you yelling at me? Oh, yeah. But you at me. I said, Ocho, why you yelling at me? Oh, yeah. You had me hot. You had me hot early in the season.
Starting point is 00:49:52 I was standing on business by them boys. I was saying, nah, I have no choice. But again, to me, the common denominator in 28 years always losing and going home with a first-round exit regardless of who the coaches are, offensively or defensively. There's one person that's still intact that seems to be the problem
Starting point is 00:50:08 on why they can't get over the goddamn hump, and that's brother Jerry Jones, who can't get out of his way. He can't get out of his way. Give me a little bit more air. I'm burning up here. Ocho. So, I want to know this.
Starting point is 00:50:20 We keep talking about Jerry. Jerry ain't made one, he ain't threw one pass. He ain't made one tackle. Jerry ain't made one. He ain't threw one pass. He ain't made one tackle. He ain't made one catch, one interception. At what point in time are you going to blame them a lemon offense and a lemon defense? Wait, I already blamed them already.
Starting point is 00:50:34 We went through them already. No, no, let's stay on them some more. We'll get to Jerry in a minute. Oh, you want to stay on them some more? Remember how when they was getting scooping scores and they celebrating? Yeah, yeah, they were looking good now. They were looking good. You want to stay on the boat? Remember how when they was getting scooping scores and they celebrate? Yeah. Yeah, they were looking good, man. They were looking good.
Starting point is 00:50:47 These young boys wouldn't drop the farting water on you. Yeah. Yeah. Jordan Love in his first playoff start in the first quarter. Yeah, you right. Did you see the man? I would like to tell Matt LaFleur, I got a perfect rating. Don't mess my perfect rating up.
Starting point is 00:51:07 He had a 158.3 in the tight end, dropped the ball, and dropped it down to 157.2. The man was perfect. The man was perfect. Look at the throws that he's making. Backfoot, both feet in the air. Speaking of that,
Starting point is 00:51:22 speaking of that, look at his arm angles. Look at his mechanics. Look at his mannerisms. Who in the hell that remind you of that used to be there? Aaron Rodgers. Same. They look fucking identical.
Starting point is 00:51:36 Throwing off the back foot. Throwing off the back foot. The arm angles. Throwing over top. Throwing from the side. If there's somebody in your way, in your vision, go on. Man, listen.
Starting point is 00:51:49 That touchdown that he threw on fourth down, did you see how he threw the ball? Yes. He threw it. Hey. Jordan Love is special. And I saw you tweet it. Ethan again, what kind of money Ethan again?
Starting point is 00:52:02 Top five money. Top five money. Top five money. Top five. Ooh. Hey, young bull. Nice. Young bull is nice. I want to give up the GM, Brian Gutekas,
Starting point is 00:52:16 because he zoomed up and went and got Jordan Love. Yeah. When Aaron Rodgers, that's what pissed Aaron Rodgers off. Yeah. He zoomed up and got him. And look at those receivers. The Watsons. The Romeo Dog. The Heat. The Melteds. look at those receivers, the Watsons, the Romeo Dolls, the Heath, the Meltons.
Starting point is 00:52:27 Look at those tight ends that he got. And he's doing it without one of his best off his line, David Bakhtiari, who's one of the premier left tackles. They got to look at what they've done defensively. Brian Gunekens, you deserve a lot of credit because not only for the way you drafted but the way you were willing to move on from Aaron Rodgers you said I'm not going to be
Starting point is 00:52:52 held hostage any longer that took balls Ocho you know at some point in time you get tired of somebody giving you look here you could be in a relationship but some point in time you're going to get tired of your partner giving you the ass to kiss so how much longer are you going to continue to giving you the ass to kiss. So how much longer are you going to continue to give me your ass to kiss
Starting point is 00:53:07 and I'm paying you $45, $50 million? You're not getting the results you want on the back end. What am I paying $50 million for? To get beat by Jimmy Garoppolo? To get beat by Tron Brady that come in there and turn the ball over three times? So what exactly am I paying for?
Starting point is 00:53:27 You're right. You're right. A guy that's going to espouse conspiracy theories? So what am I getting? You're right. I bet the locker room would appreciate it. I bet the locker room, I bet it's a more harmonious locker room.
Starting point is 00:53:46 I mean, he's a good teammate, I'm sure. I'm sure he's a good teammate. Okay, let you tell it. But them Cowboys hurt me, boy. They ain't hurt you. Why they hurt you? I'm just saying. Hey, Ocho, check this out.
Starting point is 00:53:59 Yeah. Did you know the Green Bay Packers have more playoff wins at AT&T Stadium 3 than the Cowboys do? How a road team got more playoff wins in your building? Right. That's like somebody coming in
Starting point is 00:54:14 and having more sex in your bed than you do and you live there. How that work on you? Damn. I don't like when you put it like that. I don't like what I'm saying to you. That's what I'm talking about.
Starting point is 00:54:26 That's rough there, boy. That's rough. That's rough. The Cowboys stunk it up, though, man. They stunk it up on both sides of the ball. Seven and a half point favorites. Damn, man. That's crazy.
Starting point is 00:54:41 That's crazy. But, Gravy, you believed in him. Listen, I mean, listen. I'm a visual person. I'm a visual learner. If you show me right, I'm going to believe what I see until you show me otherwise. See, they didn't show me otherwise until tonight. No, Ojo.
Starting point is 00:54:58 They didn't show me otherwise until tonight. So now, that shit hurt. Because this thing, because I was the one talking shit and taking up for everybody during the season. You were! You were! Matter of fact, me and you got into it. Shit, I was dead ass. We dead siblings, you know?
Starting point is 00:55:15 You defended that! I'm about to ruin a friendship with my co-worker standing no business behind the players. Yes! You know, it put a strain on our relationship. Yes! Because you want that. You want that. That's top five. I don't want
Starting point is 00:55:29 nobody talking about that. Yeah, that's why it hurt. It hurt for me different. Even if you're a Cowboy fan, it's one thing to be a fan of the team, but it's another thing to be on the outside looking in and standing on business about certain individuals and players and not having the leverage to be able to to big up and talk that trash back so now everything you said now is coming to fruition and got me looking like a fool that shit got me tearing up
Starting point is 00:56:00 all right please make sure you hit that like button please make sure you hit that subscribe button because we want to make sure you get all the notifications to make sure that when we go live at any given moment that you don't miss Unc and Ocho going live we got Ocho we're riding 86,000 we're going to try to get
Starting point is 00:56:20 we're going to get 100 I'm going to get 100,000 tonight matter of fact if you're a Cowboys fan and you're in the chat bitch we're going to get 100. I'm going to get 100,000 tonight. Matter of fact, if you're a Cowboys fan and you're in the chat, bitch, we're going to be back next year. How about that? No, y'all, be back where? We're going to be back next year. We're going to get over the hump because I know Jerry Jones is going to see this.
Starting point is 00:56:36 Jerry Jones is going to see this. Jerry, I love you. I love the way you conduct business. Go ahead and get in the background letting the boys handle their business from now on. We don't need you at the forefront. We don't need you at the forefront. We don't need you at the forefront. Talk about nothing and this is the best team since 1995. Don't do none of that. Let the boys goddamn
Starting point is 00:56:51 play ball. From preseason to regular season, the playoffs, we know who own the team. Don't put no more added pressure than what already comes with the star on the helmet already. Bingo. Now, what's the problem be solved? I guarantee the problem be solved when Jerry stop doing that.
Starting point is 00:57:08 I guarantee you. I kid you not. And if I'm lying, I'm flying. And I'm sitting in this chair right now. I mean, Romeo Dobbs, he has six targets, six receptions, the buff 51, must grade. You know what? They got the, oh, what we call the throwback.
Starting point is 00:57:22 We call it O-ish throwback to the tight end. Because when the tight end comes from one side. The wide and the loop out. Right. And you leave it like, oh, O-ish, the tight end. That was a nice play. That was a nice play. Very nice play.
Starting point is 00:57:36 Man, Ocho, that was a beat down. Yeah. And you know what, Ocho? When you think about it, you lose a close ball game, you can make us like, okay. But when you get beat like they did on all sides of the ball, man, Jerry's doing some serious soul searching tonight. Well, I wouldn't be surprised if Mr. McCarthy's fired tomorrow. I wouldn't be surprised if Mr. McCarthy's fired tomorrow because I know I've heard the grumblings. I've seen the tweets from those that I would consider sources and saying his future depended on how they did today.
Starting point is 00:58:13 And what you saw today, you can't have that. You can't have that, especially with the standards that Jerry holds his team and franchise to. Man, Jerry don't care nothing about that, man. Jerry about them dollars. Jerry going to make the same amount of money whether they win a Super Bowl or not.
Starting point is 00:58:29 Right. Okay, you know what I mean. I guarantee you that was the most watched game to start of it. I mean, obviously, the game did get interesting that we see
Starting point is 00:58:39 because it's the Cowboys. So, Jerry going to make it money. Wait, but at some point... I just hope they didn't sell any more playoff tickets. You know, I hope y'all because it's the Cowboys. So Jerry going to make it money. I just hope they ain't sell any more playoff tickets. You know, I hope y'all ain't sell divisional playoff tickets because y'all got to get them folks a refund. They want their money back. No, that's crazy. All of them.
Starting point is 00:58:57 My barber, I'm going to get my hair cut, and I'm going to give you a shout out. Hey, Carly Booker, I know you're watching. Off the hook, oh, he calling me. How about the boy? How about the cowboy? I call him a date. Hello? Nah, you know who it is. You got call ID.
Starting point is 00:59:12 You know good way of shouting sharp shoulder for your phone, Carly Booker. Now everybody else, I'm like, y'all still them boys? That's okay, we better the Broncos. Oh, now all of a sudden it's about the Broncos, it's the Cowboys versus the Broncos. Y'all ain't said it all year. Y'all ain't mentioned nothing about no damn Broncos. now all of a sudden it's about the Broncos. It's the Cowboys versus the Broncos. Y'all ain't said it all year. Y'all ain't mentioned nothing about no damn
Starting point is 00:59:27 Broncos. Now all of a sudden, Green Bay done went and put foots in you. Jumped up in you knee deep. And now y'all want to talk about the Broncos. Oh, that's all right. That's all right. We better than this team. No, you're not. You're not better than Green Bay. Let's talk about what you did against the Green Bay Packers,
Starting point is 00:59:44 which was absolutely, that's a shame. Y'all ain't what the elephant left on the showground. And you know what the elephant left on the showground. A big old steaming pile. Ooh, that was awful. That was awful, Ocho. You never answer. What's next, though? What's next for who? What do
Starting point is 00:59:59 the Cowboys go from here? What changes need to be made? Well, you know what? They ain't got to go nowhere because they're already at home. They ain't got to board no plane or nothing. Show up tomorrow at 9 o'clock, get them hefty bags and clean your lockers out and get up out of town. Okay, well, what changes need to be made next year
Starting point is 01:00:16 to ensure the fans we won't have to go through this bullshit next year? You've been going through it for 28 years, 29 years. Now, what you mean? What changed? The goddamn Lions ain't won a playoff game in 32 and look what they did this year.
Starting point is 01:00:31 So how do we get the change in Dallas? In AT&T Stadium? I ain't tell you because I need something to talk about. I need material. Why would I tell you the sauce? Why would I tell you the secret sauce? Why would I be... Colonel Sanders doesn't give you the secret sauce? Uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh,
Starting point is 01:00:45 Colonel Sanders doesn't give you the secret recipe. Popeye don't give you the recipe to make chicken. I ain't gonna tell you what you need to do. The recipe for Colonel Sanders and the recipe for KFC is on YouTube. I could just go and Google it. No, you can't get it. What I need to do for the Cowboys to get over the hump, that you can't Google
Starting point is 01:01:01 that. I need you to tell me. I ain't gonna tell you. Cause I want, I won't material because i want to have next year i want 150 000 in the chat right yeah oh listen i got the answer to it and i can get 300 000 in the chat i know you want jerry to fall back on not only that i want jerry to fall back i want jerry to relinquish the power in making a decision making on who comes and who goes. And I want to get that young fella over there in Boulder.
Starting point is 01:01:31 I want to get a young fella over there in Boulder and let him come over there and handle shop. Oh, Prime? Huh? Come on now. Man, Prime ain't going to coach you. Come on now. Make it make sense. Listen, at many times,
Starting point is 01:01:48 Prime said, I want to be a leader of men that are in college, not men that are in the NFL. Jerry, go get Prime and let Prime have the same shift in culture that Dan Campbell has had
Starting point is 01:02:03 and provided for those in Detroit. If you want change, change starts with you, Jerry. If you want change, change starts with you. I'm not here to preach to you because it's Sunday, but I'm telling you, I know you're going to see this clip. They're going to send it to you. It's Ocho talking to you. Stay with me now.
Starting point is 01:02:18 Well, he'll have time. If you want change, it starts with you. He ain't got to work at no more game for him. He's going to have time. How much time? He's going to have time. They're going to have time on their hands. How much time? They ain't at no more game film. He going to have time. How much time? He going to have time. They going to have time on their hands. How much time?
Starting point is 01:02:28 They ain't got no more game plan. Ain't no more game planning. Ain't no more film breakdown. Ain't no more nothing. Yeah. You getting them hefty bags? Hey, I see y'all. Hey, anybody want to come on Nightcap?
Starting point is 01:02:40 Hey, we doing a live show. Thursday before the Super Bowl. Eddie Cowboy, Dak, CDeeDee, Micah. Eddie, y'all want to come on? Hey, y'all ain't got nothing but time. Y'all ain't going to be in the game. So, I know y'all going to be in Vegas. So, come on and holler at me.
Starting point is 01:02:55 Charm it up with your boy, Unc and Ocho. Have a good time. You enjoying this, huh? Nah, because I. You know what? I don't like to be a guy to say I told you so. God dang it, I told you so. I've been trying to tell you. But see, when I tell y'all something,
Starting point is 01:03:15 y'all say I'm a hater. Or you don't like that. Or you got something against black quarterbacks. Or you... Okay. Do y'all actually think... Hold on, I just want to know one thing. Do y'all actually think they just put me on TV because I look good or I got a booming voice?
Starting point is 01:03:32 I know what the hell I'm talking about. I studied the game. I'm telling you, I've tried to tell you all year, you never accept anything in a win you wouldn't in a loss. See, when you win, you accept things because you won. Because the old adage is winning cures all.
Starting point is 01:03:54 It does. And so you let things slide instead of correcting them. But that's not what I do. Oh, Shannon, you a hater. You don't know. You jealous. Oh, such and such better than you. All that's fine and true. Everybody that y'all say is better than me, fine.
Starting point is 01:04:10 It doesn't change the fact that more times than not, I'm right. And I was damn sure hoping you was wrong too because I was going to have a field day. I was ready for this game at 430. Well, you got rained out. I was hoping you was wrong. Well, you got rained out. I was hoping you was wrong. Yeah, you wanted to go outside. I was going to
Starting point is 01:04:29 bring up every comment, everything you ever said about the Cowboys from week one all the way to week goddamn 17 to the goddamn playoffs. Oh, you had receipts. Take that. What? Did I? Yeah. Huh? I got it written right down here where I take my notes. I had it. I can't even use it. Throw it in the trash notes I can't even use it throw it in the trash
Starting point is 01:04:47 I can't even use it it'll be good next year maybe can't even use it, it's all good though y'all remember field day we used to have the sack relay the 100 yard, the softball when I go to my kids school you got that buffalo weather
Starting point is 01:05:04 it's indoors, you can't go to field day you school. You got that Buffalo weather. It's indoors. You can't go to field day. You ain't going to have no field day with no... Oh, no, not this year. It's cool. It's cool. It's cool. It's cool.
Starting point is 01:05:12 It's cool. I'll be back next year. I know if I can get Jerry to listen and just suppress... Jerry will live. Jerry will live. Suppress himself. We know you that boy. We know you.
Starting point is 01:05:22 We know you. We know you the king of Dallas. Suppress yourself and allow others to make the decisions. No. That is the reason why you that boy. We know you. We know you. We know you the king of Dallas. Suppress yourself and allow others to make the decisions. That is the reason why you can't get over the hump. I want him to stay just like it is. Ocho. Ocho.
Starting point is 01:05:34 Come on, man. What? Don't you like this? Man, we got 89,000 in the chat. No, no, no, no, no, no, no. No, I don't like this. I want to see them boys win. I want to see Dak. I want to see Dak fucking succeed. They have an opportunity. Pass the regular this. I want to see them boys win. I want to see Dak. I want to see Dak fucking.
Starting point is 01:05:45 They had an opportunity. Pass the regular season. I want to see Dak. Listen, I would love for Jerry to have a motherfucking another Lombardi trophy. I would love for him to do it. No. But how is he going to do it? No.
Starting point is 01:05:58 The formula to do it is easy because your way ain't working. Jerry, your way is not working. He did Jimmy wrong. Get out the way. He did Jimmy wrong. He did Jimmy wrong. Talk reckless and then put him in there helping to break the curse. Nope. Because you didn't do it out of the kindness of your heart.
Starting point is 01:06:11 You didn't try to try to break the curse. You didn't do it because you thought he was worthy. You didn't do it because you thought he had earned it. You didn't do it because of that. You wanted to break the curse. You have started to believe that it was the Ruthian curse over the Red Sox before they broke it. That's why you did it. No.
Starting point is 01:06:30 Oh, I got another one. What about this? Since Prime is busy and Prime really can't come to the Cowboys right now, Prime needs to finish doing his due diligence at Colorado. What about Jim Harbaugh? Harbaugh and Jerry ain't compatible.
Starting point is 01:06:49 No? Well, Jerry and the Cowboys ain't compatible right now either because now we got another first-round exit after 28 years, so something got to give. Ocho, the Cowboys is Jerry. He's not going to have a coach that has a strong— Harbaugh is going to want control that's what we need
Starting point is 01:07:09 that's what we need and I'm saying we like I'm a cowboy but that's what we need I want to see change what's wrong with Harbaugh what's wrong with link rushing power we know you the owner
Starting point is 01:07:23 you got to get out the team's way. Because now, guess what? If somebody comes in and wins the Super Bowl, he don't get the credit. He don't get the credit because he's the owner no matter what. Ain't nobody giving no ownership. Clark Hunt won two of the last three Super Bowls. They give Patrick Mahomes and Andy Reid that credit. They ain't giving no Clark Hunt no credit.
Starting point is 01:07:42 They give Sean McVay, not Stan Kroenke, credit. Don't do that. Jerry want the credit. That's why. Think about it. He had Jimmy Johnson. He had Jimmy. He fired Jimmy after back-to-back Super Bowls.
Starting point is 01:07:53 Went in between. Then he got Parcells. That was the last coach he got. Then he had Dave Campo. He had a Chan Gailey. He had guys that just figure heads. Coach entitled. Got no say-so. You don't have no say over a 53-man Coach entitled. Right. Got no say so.
Starting point is 01:08:05 You don't have no say over the 53-man roster. You don't have no say over free agency. You don't have no say over the draft. So what the hell are you? You just called plays. And you called with Jerry Wong. You just answered the question. You just answered everything I've just been saying.
Starting point is 01:08:20 You just explained it right there for yourself in front of 80 goddamn thousand. You just said who the problem was without me even having to say it again. You just said it. I'm saying. He's the problem. He's in the way of the team. But owners don't fire themselves. Well, he doesn't have to say you don't have to fire yourself.
Starting point is 01:08:38 I said suppress. Fall to the back. Bring in a coach that knows what they're doing. Like Bill Belichick. That really won't happen because he can't be talking. Jim Harbaugh, Prime. Because Prime will come in and change that motherfucker like this in an instant. Let me ask you a question.
Starting point is 01:08:56 Let me ask you a question. When was the last time a person had power and ceded power out of the kindness of their heart? Ah, maybe not out of the kindness of their heart ah maybe not out of the kindness of your heart but understanding for the betterment of the team and the franchise and wanting to reach that end goal in which you had years ago what in 1995 yes okay understanding that you have then maybe maybe i have to do back up a little bit to get where i want to go because doing it my way isn't working it's goddamn common sense It ain't fucking rocket science because you just explained it just now perfectly, so eloquently.
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Starting point is 01:10:01 of Chez by Laportier. Ocho, look, this is humiliating. I mean, Ocho, the Packers got the ball and it's like, they about to score again. I mean, I just like, oh, they gonna score again. I called my sister. She said, by Shanna.
Starting point is 01:10:18 They didn't know. I said, it's over. I said, Cowboys can't stop them. They resigned to the fact. You can look at them and tell their body language. Right. Once they went down there and they got back-to-back, they got 14, 20. Yeah. It got rough.
Starting point is 01:10:32 It broke the spirit. It got rough. It broke the spirit. It got rough. And matter of fact, when a team goes up 14, you know, if you're clicking and you're in sync offensively, you ain't tripping. You ain't tripping.
Starting point is 01:10:44 But the first series, they wasn't in sync offensively, you ain't tripping. You ain't tripping. But the first series, they wasn't in sync at all. I'm a reader of body language. You can tell through facial expressions and your face mask through the helmet, oh, the boy's ready. Okay, the first drive didn't go as well. But when I seen Dak throw CD a ball
Starting point is 01:10:59 and CD went in sync and the ball went right through his hands like he didn't even see it. I was like, wait, somebody's disengaged. Somebody's disengaged. I'm not sure exactly who it is, but they disengaged. Not only are they disengaged, the mannerism and the body language ain't that of someone that's in a playoff game ready to come play football. It didn't look right.
Starting point is 01:11:20 Something was off. There was a disconnect. I don't know what kind of Wi-Fi they was using AT&T tonight, but the Wi-Fi was off. There was a disconnect. I don't know what kind of Wi-Fi they was using AT&T tonight, but the Wi-Fi was off. There was a disconnect. But here's the thing, Ocho. When a lot of what you've been hanging your hat on,
Starting point is 01:11:34 we play at home, we do this. When have they ever been behind by this much at home? Oh, never. I think most of them have been behind by probably about seven points. So now you're down 14.
Starting point is 01:11:47 Now you're down 20. Now you're down 27. It's so funny. I'm on the plane. They were down 27, I think. I think the Packers had it. It was 27-something. And I had to think about, has there ever been a time where a team has come back from a deficit like this?
Starting point is 01:12:06 And I thought about the Chargers. I forgot who the Chargers played. The Chargers was... They played Jacksonville last year. Bingo. And they came back and won. So, you know what? I ain't tripping.
Starting point is 01:12:16 I ain't tripping. Man, I told the stewardess, Mr. You bring another Coke with no ice. I said, man, the Cowboys are going to come back and win this. I ain't even tripping. It's hard, Ocho the Cowboys going to come back and win this. I ain't even tripping. It's hard, Ocho. It's hard to come back if you don't create turnovers.
Starting point is 01:12:30 Yeah. Because here's the thing. You've got to shorten one of their possessions. Mm-hmm. Yeah. So because here's the thing. And the Cowboys, they scored three points, but it took them six and a half, seven minutes.
Starting point is 01:12:44 You've got to score in three minutes. But you can't let them go down and get a touchdown in six and a half, seven minutes. You got to score in three minutes, but you can't let them go down and get a touchdown in three and a half minutes. You got to stop them. Defensively, you got to come through defensively. So if you look at the way the game was going, you was like, unless Green Bay turns it over, they get a scooping score, a block field goal,
Starting point is 01:13:00 or a run back or something, the Cowboys are not going to have enough possessions. Right. Damn, man. That shit hurt. Hey, I think you better call Tyrone. Call him. Tell him to come home.
Starting point is 01:13:19 D Love said, Jared Jones is going to beg Bill Belichick to take over. Given three years, 100 million, Bill is the only one who can teach them boys how to win. If he can't fix it, no one can. Well, he's going to have to relinquish power. With Bill Belichick coming in there, you already know what Bill expects. You already know what Bill demands. Don't be asking for a bill if you're not willing to take a back seat to a bill Belichick does not want.
Starting point is 01:13:46 Do your job. Don't say nothing in front of camera and come to play. I know he not be not coming coming to owner that's gonna do that the complete opposite of Robert Kraft. Absolutely exactly. You're not coming to that circus. Absolutely not. Oh Joe, remember I told you all you have to Cowboys run run defense. Ojo, that's liability. Nah, they're going to clean that up. They'll clean that up. Because you click the thing. It's early. See, that's your thing, man. It's early. It was early.
Starting point is 01:14:13 You make adjustments as the season goes on. That's why I was saying it was early. This is how you be doing me. It's week five. It's week 10. But you got You gotta think The 49ers The Cowboys front line
Starting point is 01:14:29 In general They smaller Yes They build for speed They build for sideline To sideline They play the run On the way to the quarterback
Starting point is 01:14:36 Yeah there's no meat and potatoes They need They need some meat and potatoes In there They need to be in a situation Ocho Where they get you down So they can pin their ears back
Starting point is 01:14:45 so there's no threat of the run. Bingo. There you go. If I get you down 14-0, you at my mercy. Yeah. And you got to throw the ball because you got to get back in the game. They were 16th in run defense. Their pass defense was ranked fifth. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:15:02 Packers ran the ball for 143 yards and three touchdowns. Because the way they try to, what they do is that they play the run on the way to the quarterback. They're looking to attack your quarterback. Look at the teams that beat the Cowboys and look at what they ran, look at
Starting point is 01:15:17 what they beat them doing right down that small-ass nickel defense. The guys ain't got no bricks in their back pockets. You got safety players linebackers. And that's fine and good because it's great when you try to run, get on
Starting point is 01:15:34 the edges and run when you're trying to pass the ball. But when them big guards start scooping up on their ass and them tight ends get their hands on them little light-ass safeties and they start driving them like a Hugo. Yeah. That's tough. I mean,
Starting point is 01:15:50 there's really nothing you could do when you think about it, even with this. I like one of my alum, my favorite, Marquise Bell, who is somewhat a robber, a smaller size linebacker. What they would have to do because they were a small inside,
Starting point is 01:16:06 you got to be able to beat those guards and people pulling those tight ends and beat them to the point of attack. And if you can't, if they're able to get hands
Starting point is 01:16:13 on you first or you're not able to initiate, it's a wrap. Or get them before they can get square. Yeah. If they square you up,
Starting point is 01:16:20 I don't care if you beat them to the point. You ain't getting around that. You ain't getting around that. Especially once they get hands on you. Oh, shit. Yeah. I don't care if you beat them to the point. It wasn't a big line to square your ass up. You ain't getting around that. You ain't getting around that. Especially once they get hands on you. Oh, shit. Yeah. We ain't going nowhere.
Starting point is 01:16:30 We ain't going nowhere. But we going to fix it, though. Man, I wonder what the more. I gave Cowboy Nation what needs to happen for things to change. Now, we going to see what happens. I wonder what most of those old Cowboys, former Cowboys players be saying. There are a couple of them on our network.
Starting point is 01:16:45 It's the year of the Cowboys. Swagoo! How you doing out there, buddy? Michael Irvin. I know they hurting. They hurting. Man, you know Swagoo was up there sweating like a Pentecostal minister.
Starting point is 01:17:01 Talking about the Cowboys this, the Cowboys here. No, it's not. I love this. I love this. I love it. Man, me and Stevie, they going to have us tomorrow. I can't wait till tomorrow.
Starting point is 01:17:13 Hey, hey, can I come on there with y'all? I'm in the box. What the box mean? Like here, like what I'm doing right now. Right. I'm saying, you say you on first take tomorrow
Starting point is 01:17:27 Let me come on I could fly out there in the morning I could, listen I could fly to LA in the morning I could do first take with you and Stephen A Because you see I'm willing to critique like I And analyze like I did tonight
Starting point is 01:17:39 I stood on business Because they played pathetic It was horrible I did that so I could fly I could fly there with y'all. I could do first take tomorrow, and I could do inside the NFL on Tuesday. Boom. I got two birds with one stone.
Starting point is 01:17:50 I don't want you taking anything away from nightcap. I want your attention on nightcap. Right. Nightcap. But I'm nightcap and first take. I'm trying to diversify my portfolio, and I need you to help me diversify my portfolio. I got 37 jobs. If you can get me on first take,
Starting point is 01:18:07 that's 38. No. The more the better. Please. No, I don't want to just show up to L.A. and then interrupt studio and just walk in there
Starting point is 01:18:16 and sit down and just, you know, I talked to Bob Iger. Bob said, whenever you want to come, just come. So I'm asking you.
Starting point is 01:18:23 No, you need to talk to Steve and that ain't my show. Whose show is it? This just come. So I'm asking you. No, you need to talk to Stephen A. That ain't my show. Whose show is it? This is mine. I reached out to you and Doug about this right here. You need to talk to Stephen A about this. You need to talk to Stephen A and Jimmy Pacharo, Burt Magnus, Dave Roberts, and Stephen A.
Starting point is 01:18:39 Matter of fact, give me two seconds. Let me call Stephen A, see if Stephen let me on the show. Dak is now, Dak now is 2-5 in his playoff career. Tied for worst record by any quarterback in history with a minimum of five starts, along with Alex Smith and Billy Kilmer. Green Bay continues to have Dak Prescott's number. He has 10 career interceptions and six starts,
Starting point is 01:19:01 a 1-5 record against the Packers, the most career picks versus any team. He hasn't thrown 10 interceptions against any of his NFC East rivals. I don't like that. I don't like the way that sounds. We can do something about it, but it will have to be next year though. I can't do nothing about it this year. What you got in that cup, man? You feeling real good tonight year what you got in that cup man you feeling you feeling real good what you got in that cup
Starting point is 01:19:29 ain't nothing I feel good a little water that's water you said it was water yesterday that can't be no water now you acting different nah I'm happy oh so you happy
Starting point is 01:19:41 you happy the boys lost nah I ain't happy they lost what you happy the boys lost? Nah. I ain't happy they lost. What you happy about? But see, I just want them Cowboys fans to see when they were winning and I was trying to tell them there were things that I saw. Right. It was on my timeline.
Starting point is 01:19:56 Not my timeline. I mean, like somebody died. Right, right, right. I ain't got no Cowboys. Ain't nobody said nothing. Ain't no Cowboys. Somebody shouted, you suck. You make me sick. I don't get no cowboys. Ain't nobody saying nothing. Ain't no cowboys. Somebody shouting, you suck. You make me sick.
Starting point is 01:20:06 I don't get none of that. I mean, I still, I mean, let me see if my Twitter's still active. I hope, well, X,
Starting point is 01:20:13 I hope ain't nobody deactivating my account because I just want to know why, I just want to know why ain't no cowboy jumping on my timeline. Oh, so they was attacking you early in the season, huh? Yeah, they all attacking me.
Starting point is 01:20:26 Well, I mean, come on. I be cowboys. I mean, come on now. See? It's quiet. He who laughs last, laughs loudest. Hold on, I got to get me a drink. Let me get me some water.
Starting point is 01:20:46 Damn. Ain't nobody want to talk to us hey Cowboys y'all in the chat Cowboy fans y'all got some questions for me I got some questions for y'all uh y'all think I might get a Cowboy NFC
Starting point is 01:21:07 T-shirt? NFC champs T-shirt? We're going to get a Cowboy NFC champ T-shirt. You going to rub it in? Don't rub it in. Think about this. Jordan Love was two yards shy of having the exact same line stat line as CJ Stroud. Jordan Love was two yards shy of having the exact same line,
Starting point is 01:21:25 stat line, as C.J. Stroud. Jordan Love was 16-21, 272, three touchdowns, 157.2 passer rating. C.J. Stroud, 16-21, 274, three touchdowns, 157.2 QB rating. Passer rating. The league's in pretty good hands with a young quarterback. Yeah. Very, very good hand. That is the future.
Starting point is 01:21:47 That is the future. Most definitely. But that's the... That's the key. If you get that guy... Mm-hmm. He's your foundational piece that you can build anything that you want around it
Starting point is 01:22:07 did you hear what you just said though when you get that guy you know how difficult it is to find that guy yes especially one that you don't have to worry about for the next 10 years and you build around that piece that's the hard part that's the hard part especially when you're judging players coming from college playing against almost grown men, but playing against college kids and wondering, is this going to transition at the NFL level?
Starting point is 01:22:32 Is it going to drag? Sometimes it's a hit or miss. It's a hit or miss. Sometimes it had you questioning. No, to the point where they have a thing called first round bus. Yeah. Because sometimes scouts get it wrong.
Starting point is 01:22:44 Sometimes franchisees, they get it wrong it's not because it's not an exact science you can't say because okay the guy is prototypical he's six foot five 240 pounds he can run four six at the quarterback position he has a big time arm right you don't really i don't care what position he plays you really don't know what a player is going to be until you get him in your damn uniform. Yeah. And when you get him in your building and you put him in your uniform, that's only when you're going to find out what it's going to be because there've been a lot of guys that's been a hell of a college players get to
Starting point is 01:23:15 the NFL. You like, well, bro, what happened? Why can't you do it? And then there are guys that you really don't live on. Like,
Starting point is 01:23:22 you're a whole lot about, boom. And they take off. You're right. It's hard. It's kind of like horse racing. You breed the best to the best and hope for the best. All you can do is that, okay, I'm just hoping what I see on
Starting point is 01:23:40 tape, I'm looking at tape, Ocho. Okay, he goes to the combine. I think he's fast. I think he's explosive he runs fast he jumps high right hopefully he tests well because when i see him on tape he looks explosive michael parsons is a prime example if you watch michael parsons tape in college yeah and then you watch him go to the combine you like man this guy damn sure seems like can't miss but there have been other guys sometimes you get fooled like you what the guy's like man he ain't do nothing but then he comes and jumps out of the gym and he runs four three four two and you're like well i need to go back and look but like but damn but he doesn't play that fast yeah there are
Starting point is 01:24:21 some guys that don't play as fast as they are. And then there's some guys that play faster than what they run and what they time. Yeah, it happens all the time. Happens all the time. But this Ocho, like I said, you look at this,
Starting point is 01:24:39 he's like 48-32. But ladies and gentlemen, if you didn't watch the game, at one point this game was 48-16 with under six minutes to go. 48-16. That's tough. Hold on. What do we got? Juan Cardoza.
Starting point is 01:25:00 Should the Cowboys move on from Dak? Coaching staff fresh start with Lance. No. But here's the thing. It's going to get very interesting, Ocho. What, what, what? See, he want the bag. Well, he going to get the bag.
Starting point is 01:25:13 Michael Parsons wants the bag. He going to get the bag, too. It's enough money for everybody. It's enough money for everybody. Dak want the bag. Wait, we... Oh, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. Come on, come on.
Starting point is 01:25:23 Come on back to me now. I thought we just paid Dak two years ago, right? No? Mm-mm. This third year, coming up on that fourth year. That guy, he got a big old cap. Now, what's that cap number next year?
Starting point is 01:25:33 That cap number, 55 mil. Oh, yeah. Well, they gonna change it anyway. They gonna change it. He ain't going nowhere. They gonna give him a new deal. He right. So, guess what?
Starting point is 01:25:45 Michael Parsons is going to want to be the highest paid defensive player. He's deserving of such. Okay. C.D. Lamb is going to be the highest paid receiver. Okay. Tyreek at 31 million. So he's going to overlap Tyreek, you think? Look here.
Starting point is 01:25:59 Tyreek deal was two years ago. Right. Hey, hey, hey. Whoa, wait a minute. Ah. Right. Hey, I, well, wait, ah, yeah, but it's tough.
Starting point is 01:26:09 Whoa. You have been triloquist. Who ended up talking with you? I kind of heard like five or six different voices. Hold on. Listen, if, so if,
Starting point is 01:26:16 if, if he, if he resets the market, if CDs resets the market, then chase will have to reset it again. And then Jefferson comes back and resets it again. Mm. Mm. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.
Starting point is 01:26:26 So, man, what is the cap going to? See, that's a funny game. That's a funny game, right? Not a funny game. And I'm just saying in particular to timing of when the deals get done because there's some good fellas, some good fellas
Starting point is 01:26:41 that's going to have to reset the market and they're going to want to one-up each other. Yeah. So I think C.D. might want to wait out. Chase might want to wait out. They want to wait. But here's the thing. Justin and C.D. are about to hear their fifth-year option.
Starting point is 01:27:01 Remember, they're already four-year players. Chase is just— They're going to decline it, though. The team is going to decline their fifth- option. Remember, they're already four-year players. Chase is just... They're going to decline it, though. The team is going to decline their fifth year and make sure they get... No, they already picked it up. Oh, they picked it up? You mean you pick it up.
Starting point is 01:27:11 But they're going to tear that up anyway. They're going to tear that up anyway. They got to take care of them boys. That is the centerpiece as far as the receiving corps is concerned. But see, the thing is with Justin Jefferson, there is no quarterback. I believe Cousins number comes off the book. He's a free
Starting point is 01:27:27 agent. You can't leave Justin with no quarterback now. You can't do that. Look, they're going to go out and try to get a quarterback. Russell Wilson might be in play. No, no, no. I already told you where Russell Wilson is going. Russell Wilson is going to the Steelers. I already told
Starting point is 01:27:43 you that. My sources already told me. Now, when it happened, just know I told you here first. Look, I'm just saying the Broncos is like, okay, fine. They just don't. Look, it's going to be dead money. That's $85 million in dead money anyway. Yeah. But at least I can get some compensation for him.
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Starting point is 01:31:22 This was bad. This was the worst case scenario for the Cowboys, not only to lose, but to lose in the fashion in which they lost. Yeah. Because, you know, you could say, because you remember last time they lost, they said Green Bay, well, it was a fluky field goal. And you could say last time in the 49ers,
Starting point is 01:31:44 you could say, well, the guy didn't run down to the umpire. He needed to be Usain Bolt so he could sprint down the field behind Dak Prescott and spot the balls. You could make all the excuses. Yeah, when the time ran out on the clock, yeah. Ain't no excuses to be made, but that
Starting point is 01:32:00 ass whipping that you took. Yeah, they lost. They lost. They lost. They lost. Yeah, man. And they lost in horrific style. Horrific. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:32:10 Humility. And the fact that it was at home. The fact that it was at home and we had to endure that. Your fans saw that. Do you know what it's like to watch, I mean, to get beat down in front of your family? Yeah. I mean, you and y'all, I don't know. I ain't never lost nobody.
Starting point is 01:32:23 I ain't really. I ain't never fought nobody. I ain't really not. I ain't never fought nobody. Excuse me. Excuse me, chap. I ain't never fought nobody in front of my family. But it must be embarrassing. That's bad. If you get beat down in front of your girl.
Starting point is 01:32:34 That's bad. Or you get beat down in front of your family. Can you imagine getting beat up in front of your girl and then have to go home with her? That's going to talk crazy to you. Oh, yeah. And then. Oh, you raise your voice at me. Me. You ain't do that to him.
Starting point is 01:32:46 Yeah, dog. You know what I'm talking about, Ocho. Yeah, nobody talk to you. So now, when you're at the Cowboy Fair, see y'all. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Hey, that's crazy. That's how they are.
Starting point is 01:33:01 I mean, as soon as somebody check, you know, girl, now she gonna keep you in check. Yeah. Damn, I ready to talk shit tonight, man. Fuck, man. You better be talking about Armond St. Brown. Because you ain't got nothing to talk about until y'all got a faulted water. Time out, time out.
Starting point is 01:33:21 48. It's cool. Yeah. It's cool. We'll be back next year. We'll be back next year. We'll be back next year. I put it out there what changes need to be made. If they not made, I'm going to raise hell.
Starting point is 01:33:32 Oh, Joe. If the changes that I'm telling you aren't made for the Cowboys, the fans fucking deserve it. The players deserve it. And if they don't change, I'm going to raise hell. Now, give me the platform. Give me the platform. If it don't change, I'm going to raise hell. Now, give me the platform. Give me the platform. If it don't change, I'm going to raise hell.
Starting point is 01:33:49 Ocho, you make it seem like nobody else is going to try to make changes. Just because you make changes, that doesn't mean I don't put the Cowboys at the front of the line. There's one change that needs to be made. Who's in the way? One change. That's it. Nothing else.
Starting point is 01:34:04 The pieces of that puzzle... What about that defense? What about that defense? Let's it. Nothing else. The pieces of that puzzle What about that defense? Let's talk about that defense. Let's talk about that defense. They gave up 48 points. They gave up 48. I'm not sure. To a guy that's starting his first playoff game. I'm not sure if Dan Quinn is going to be there next year.
Starting point is 01:34:19 I'm not sure because if Mike McCarthy goes, that means his staff has to go. Someone else is going to have to come in there. Whoever comes in there to run that defense, they have great pieces to to go. So someone else is going to have to come in there. But whoever comes in there to run that defense, they have great pieces to work with. They have very good pieces. You got to understand, when you play the game of football, it's nothing but a chess match.
Starting point is 01:34:33 Can I put my best pieces against your pieces and make the right moves? That's all it comes down to. That's all it comes down to at the end of the day. You got to do that for four quarters. Oh, so now Dan Quinn don't know how to call defense. I say he don't know how to play chess. Stay with me now.
Starting point is 01:34:48 Oh. I say he don't know how to play chess. If I didn't know, I could have swore he was the D coordinator in Seattle. Was he the D coordinator in Seattle with the Legion of Boom? With the Legion of Boom? Well, shit, goddamn. Helen Keller could have been the goddamn D coordinator with the Legion of Boom, and they would have been straight.
Starting point is 01:35:02 They would have been fine. Oh, so now it's them, huh? Did you hear what I just said? Uh-huh. Ellen Keller could have been a D coordinator of the Legion of Boom and they would have still had the same results.
Starting point is 01:35:13 You would have still got the same results. Well, before Dan Quinn got there, y'all said Mike Nolan didn't know what the hell he was doing. And the D coordinator before that, y'all said he didn't know
Starting point is 01:35:23 what the hell he was doing. So who know what the hell they doing? I didn't say that. I didn't say that. I'm just trying to figure out who know what the hell they doing. And the D coordinator before that, y'all say he didn't know what the hell he was doing. So who know what the hell they doing? I didn't say that. I didn't say that. I'm just trying to figure out who know what the hell they doing. I'm looking forward to 2024 and what we need to do to get better. So they gave up 48 today. They gave
Starting point is 01:35:38 up 42 to San Francisco. How much they give up to Buffalo? Hey, look at the look at the offenses you naming too. We talk about prolific offenses.
Starting point is 01:35:50 Nice. Oh, Arizona. Arizona prolific too. Oh, no. Okay. Take that back. I call that a trap game. You know,
Starting point is 01:35:58 sometimes when you put your homeboys and y'all out and everybody got a girl you got to take one for the team. That's that one for the team. That Arizona game. That's that one for the team. Gave up 31 to Buffalo. Gave up and they got a girl, you got to take one for the team. That's that one for the team, that Arizona game. That's that one for the team.
Starting point is 01:36:05 Gave up 31 to Buffalo. Gave up. And they got beat by Arizona with Joshua Dobbs. Joshua Dobbs? He in the NASA flight program. He an astronaut. He said, you know what? He said, you know what?
Starting point is 01:36:22 I got a little part-time gig. I'm a full-time astronaut. I masquerade as a quarterback on the weekend. Watch what I do to the Cowboys. And did a number on the Cowboys. Yeah, you did. How many Phillies score on them? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:36:38 Well, the Philly game, it was a little closer than normal. A little closer than normal. They gave up 35 in the win to Seattle at home. You're right. 35. I want to know what this horse – see, I want to know this historic defense
Starting point is 01:37:00 because that's what I heard a lot of talk of. Historic. I heard a lot of talk of. Historic. I heard 2014 Seattle. I heard 2000 Ravens. I heard 85 Bears. I heard the 0-2 Bucks.
Starting point is 01:37:16 You know, they were playing historic. They were doing some historic things throughout the season. Against the Jets and Wilson, Zach Wilson. Against the Patriots and Mac Jones. Really? Really, Ocho? Really?
Starting point is 01:37:29 I don't remember the teams where they were playing, where they were making historic comments. But I'm just saying that they were. This is the NFL. You can't say, oh, it's the Jets. Or you can't say, oh, it's the Patriots. It's still the NFL. You don't give up 48 and 42. You don't do that.
Starting point is 01:37:49 Right. Right. You don't. You don't. And I can't fight for that. I can't fight for that. See, this is what I love so much about pro sports. You can't talk about it.
Starting point is 01:38:01 You got to be about it. See, you can't talk your way out of this. We got to play. See, while you over there talking about it you gotta be about it see you can't talk your way out of this we got the plate see while you over there talking about what you gonna do show me hmm hey we gonna put these pants on and I'm gonna come to your building at 1.30
Starting point is 01:38:17 4.30 the whole world gonna see oh I bet you there's a big audience man I bet you Fox's a big audience. Man, I bet you, I bet you Fox wanted to, the only thing
Starting point is 01:38:28 they couldn't flex out of it. When they got 48-16, they like, they wanted to go to the Westminster Dog Show.
Starting point is 01:38:36 Yeah. You know, you know the Packers 6-0 against the, you know the Packers 6-0 against the goddamn Cowboys at AT&T Stadium?
Starting point is 01:38:43 Yeah. 6-0. Every time they travel at AT&T Stadium? Yeah. 6-0. Every time they travel to AT&T, every time they travel to the Cowboys, they beat them. Mm-hmm. But see, this is why I love the beatdown, because there is no, oh, it was a lucky field goal,
Starting point is 01:39:00 or it was a bad call, or, oh, you remember, the dads called it, dads called it. Dads called it. Ain't none of that. There ain't nothing. There's nothing to be said. There's not one person can go on TV tomorrow and say the Cowboys were the better team.
Starting point is 01:39:18 They beat y'all down. Stop rubbing it in because I'm starting to tear up a little bit. That's all right. They beat y'all down. See, this is the way you beat somebody. See, you don't beat somebody and let somebody break it up.
Starting point is 01:39:37 My grandfather said, boy, you get a hold of somebody, you beat them and make them break loose. Right, right. See, you know what I'm saying? When the animals get fighting, when one of them get the best of it and one of them break loose. You know what I'm saying? When the animals get fighting, when one of them get the best of it, then one of them will break loose. You already know.
Starting point is 01:39:49 They beat the Cowboys so bad, made the Cowboys break loose. The refs couldn't even call it off. Beat the brakes off y'all, and the man jumped outside. So, you know, let that one slide. You see Matt LaFleur said, the left guard moved. The left guard moved.
Starting point is 01:40:05 He did. Try to give y'all a little momentum coming out of the half. Yeah. Packers said, don't worry about it. Matt LaFleur said, don't even worry about it. Hey, Jordan Love said,
Starting point is 01:40:14 hey, I got this. Yeah. Stop them. Guess what we did? Go right down the field. Whoop, whoop. You know, and I'm happy for Jordan Love, though.
Starting point is 01:40:23 I'm happy for Jordan Love. I'm happy that the Pack, though. I'm happy for Jordan Love. I'm happy that the Packers organization made the right call with moving on from Aaron Rodgers, finding their guy. Not just any guy. Not just a quarterback you have to worry about. You know what? Let's see.
Starting point is 01:40:37 Maybe he's him. Maybe he's not. Maybe we have to go in the draft. Maybe we have to get somebody in free agency. You found that guy. Houston Texans found their guy. It is very difficult for teams to find that guy because many teams are finding one right now a la the patriots because if the patriots had found their guy similar to how the texans have
Starting point is 01:40:53 and the packers have bill belichick wouldn't be going no motherfucking where well bill belichick made the mistake of hiring people that never called plays why was matt patricia and joe judge calling offensive plays? One's a special team coach and the other's a defensive coordinator. But see, that's when you're arrogant. You see, when you become so arrogant that you can think you can do no wrong, and that's Coach Belichick. Coach Belichick is arrogant because for him to think that he can take a
Starting point is 01:41:20 defensive guy and a special teams guy and make them OCs, that goes to arrogance in him. That's a flaw. a defensive guy and a special teams guy and make them OCs. That goes to arrogance and hemp. That's a flaw. Because sometimes we can get high off our own supply. We think that much of ourselves, Ocho. We got to be careful. I have a question.
Starting point is 01:41:40 Go ahead. When it comes to coaches, especially at the highest level, like the NFL. Yes. Aren't they equipped to coach all three phases of the game whether it be special teams offense and defense wouldn't they be adequate to be able to coach no or should they just be a specialty specifically for that that said coach marvin lewis was a defensive coach marvin lewis not calling offensive plays okay okay okay so matt patricia should had no reason being on the offensive side of the ball. He's never called an offensive
Starting point is 01:42:07 play. Okay, okay, okay. I was just curious. I was just curious. Most coaches, I'm assuming, especially with understanding and knowing of the game of both sides of the ball. You could understand it, Ocho, but there's a situation, okay, first
Starting point is 01:42:23 down, and I'm not really paying attention because I'm on the second down. What are we going to do on second down? And plus, I got to remember the coverage that they're running down the distance area of the field and formation on the field. That's a whole different ball game. Okay, okay. But you would think they're able to do it, especially at that level. I don't know. I'm just curious.
Starting point is 01:42:43 No. You think a professional football player can go on an NBA court? He's a professional, so he should be able to do it, right? I mean, well, you talking about me or you just saying... I'm talking about anybody. Oh. You think you could take
Starting point is 01:42:58 an NFL player right now and go out there and play real NBA basketball? Or do you think you could take Anthony Edwards and bring him to an NFL field? You think he can play right now? Get his ass broke up. That's about it. Thank you. Just because
Starting point is 01:43:14 I coach one side of the ball, that doesn't mean I can coach the other side of the ball. There's a reason I went to that side of the ball. Yeah. I see what you're saying. I see what you're saying. I see what you're saying. I like that.
Starting point is 01:43:27 DB said Green Bay gave them, gave it to them like they were on them diamonds. They did. They were the diamonds. Yeah. Hey, that was a good one. They did. DP, they put them on, they had them diamonds on them. That was a good one. Oh man. That was a good one. Whoever that was, that was a good one. They did. DP, they had them diamonds on them.
Starting point is 01:43:45 That was a good one. Oh, man. That was a good one. Whoever that was, that was a good one. DP. That was a good one. Unculture J. Hey, Unc, I saw someone posted on Twitter that when they die, they want the Cowboys to be their pallbearers so they can let them down
Starting point is 01:44:03 one last time. They do it. Let them down easy. They don't let you down easy. You already know you're going to get dropped. It's a shame. It's a shame that, because you know,
Starting point is 01:44:17 the Cowboys fans get so, and that's the thing, they're so delusional because every year after they win a couple of games, Ocho, what is it? This eye year. Yeah, yeah. And even Ocho, and Ocho, but it ain't hot at me. Yeah, that was it.
Starting point is 01:44:31 I tried to call Ocho, he wouldn't even accept my calls. I was hot, boy. I was hot. I said, well, damn, Ocho, I mean, it's just, we just, we just debating football, bro. It ain't that serious. Nah, that shit, I take that, I take that shit serious. I take it, when it comes to that shit serious. When it comes to defending these players,
Starting point is 01:44:47 when it comes to defending these players, well, I'm standing on business about all of them. Cowboys, I don't care who it is. Well, you should have told the Cowboys to stand on business. We're going to regroup. You said that last year
Starting point is 01:45:05 they've been saying that for 29 years now damn and guess who's still in the way man put that can down put that in the cup oh my bad my bad my bad I forgot I forgot my bad hold on Nikki Grant said Shannon Shannon gotta be the beginning of so many people's
Starting point is 01:45:26 villain origin stories he's my kind of petty I little petty I'm big petty when it comes to the Cowboys cause they deserve it Nikki you know they deserve it they deserve it cause they fans always
Starting point is 01:45:42 and everybody mentioned showing up. Oh, we them boys. We them boys. We this, we that. Y'all going home. The only difference between the Cowboys and all the other teams that didn't make the playoffs, they practiced one extra week.
Starting point is 01:46:02 They practiced one extra week. They practiced one extra week. They practice one extra week. They practice one extra week. Yeah. Everybody, they got them hefty bags. They're going to pull up there in them nice whips, them Lambo trucks, them ranges, you know, them Bentleys, them Rolls, them Cullinans. They're going to pull up there with the big old hefty bags.
Starting point is 01:46:21 All right, man. Peace out, man. Y'all going to the bowl, man. What you going to do with your Super Bowl ticket? I don't know, man. I'll let you know. I'll holler at you. Hey, dawg.
Starting point is 01:46:28 You going to the Super Bowl? Yeah, man. Hey, man. You going to such and such? Nah, you making plans that don't have nothing to do with football. Cancun on three or no? Yeah. I don't know.
Starting point is 01:46:43 Nah, man. You know. Hey, see, when you lose like this, you lay low for a minute. Yeah. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? Because, see, here's the thing. If you do too much celebrating, people gonna say that's why you lost
Starting point is 01:46:55 the game, because your mind went where it should have been. So you lay low. Right. Lay real low. Mm-hmm. Hey, you know, Dak talking about, you know, LV. Only thing on my mind is LV. I bought my girl an LV bag. Take it back.
Starting point is 01:47:13 Ain't no similarity between LV and LV that you spoke the destination of the Super Bowl. Take it back. That's a good one. That's a good one. But I see y'all out there. Look, any Cowboy players that want to join Ochoa and I on Nightcap, you can come here and sit down 10, 15 minutes.
Starting point is 01:47:31 Shoot the crowd with them, man. We welcome it. Come on. I'm going to stand on business with you. I got you. I got you. I got you. Who you want me to get? It ain't nothing but a Tex. They might be busy. I got you. Who you want me to get? It ain't nothing but a text. They might be busy. Tedjo Linton, do you think Green Bay can beat the 49ers next week? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:47:54 They can. Oh. They can. Come on now. You know what type of defense you need to beat the goddamn 49ers. There's only one team. There's only one team I've seen get them boys goddamn hell. Up and down the field.
Starting point is 01:48:11 Had Brock Purdy going crazy. And they out the AFC North. Oh, Joe. You know, turnovers make everything equal. Okay. I like, I like. Listen, the 49ers do too much offensively. And you got to have the personnel.
Starting point is 01:48:26 You got to have the personnel. Look at the personnel of the Ravens. And no disrespect to the Packers. Then look at the personnel of the Packers. It's different. They got great players. They got good players. But it's different. It's different.
Starting point is 01:48:40 The way they play football in the AFC North is different. I respect the NFC. I like the Packers. I like what they do. I like what they did tonight. But it's different. So what you trying to say? They got no chance?
Starting point is 01:48:54 Oh, shit. I'm sorry. My bad. My bad. My bad. My bad. Go ahead. You got to hit.
Starting point is 01:49:00 Damn it. My bad, man. Fuck. I'm talking like we in the street. My bad. I'm sorry. You got to hit a morpher in, man. Fuck. I'm talking like we in the street. My bad. I'm sorry. You got to hit a mofo in they mouth. Yes.
Starting point is 01:49:10 That's how them Ravens play. That's how the entire AFC North play. You got to hit a mofo in they mouth. Make them uncomfortable. Well, Cleveland ain't play like that. Nah. Who Cleveland hit yesterday? Yeah, I don't know.
Starting point is 01:49:20 I don't know what Cleveland that was. Because that's not the Cleveland we saw all year. Especially offensively. Not from goddamn Joe Flacco. I mean, defensively. I'm sorry that's not the Cleveland we saw all year, especially offensively. Not from goddamn Joe Flacco. I mean, defensively. I'm sorry. That's how we saw defensively. Them boys played some hell.
Starting point is 01:49:30 They played some hell of a football throughout the season. Joe Flacco, like you did say, when he did take over, he turns the ball over a lot. I said, Ocho, I love it. I said, but man, I'm telling you, man, that's what concerns me, man.
Starting point is 01:49:44 And what did he do? Turned the ball over. And you're not able to overcome that. You can't overcome that. Who picked sixes? What did Dak do? A pick six. Man, it's hard to overcome that.
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Starting point is 01:50:24 that's why you're here. We feel we have great content, but we like to show you love and appreciation because we understand that without you, there is no us. And I appreciate you. You think I'm foolish enough to think that, hey, the Cat Williams interview, you guys got that up to
Starting point is 01:50:39 48 million views. 48 million. In the next couple of days, we're going to hit 50 million. One of the, only Joe Rogan has two videos at 50 million plus. And for me to be able
Starting point is 01:50:56 to join that, that select, that few company, is because of you guys. So I really appreciate you watching the video. I know some of you guys, I mean, I've gotten messages of you guys. So I really appreciate you watching the video. I've known some of you guys. I mean,
Starting point is 01:51:07 I've gotten messages from you guys, DMs from you guys that you've watched it on multiple occasions. And I really, really appreciate that. And I appreciate you supporting nightcap because we didn't think we were going to grow as fast as we did guys. I'm going to be honest. I knew,
Starting point is 01:51:24 I knew Ocho and I, we had great chemistry. He wanted to do it. I wanted him to do it. I wanted to do it. But, guys, you don't know how something is going to be received until it's received. And so I want to say thank you from the bottom of my heart. And I'm going to get right back on these Cowboys again
Starting point is 01:51:41 because they stunk it up and they deserved it. Green Bay put both feet in them Jokers. Both feet. That's embarrassing, Ocho. You ought to be ashamed of yourself to say you supported the Cowboys. Listen, I'm not going to be ashamed because at times, sometimes you put your interest and you put your all into something. You put your all into something that you love
Starting point is 01:52:03 and something that you value and you see good in. And sometimes what you see, it doesn't turn out to be just that. Your expectations. You got to learn to manage your expectations. That's something that I always talk about and preach all the time. In this instance, I didn't get the results I wanted based on the way I stood on business for the Cowboys all season long. But again, I know who the problem is. I know who's standing in the way of them reaching the pinnacle of it, what it is they want to accomplish.
Starting point is 01:52:33 And I know who it is. And I've said it again, I ain't going to say it no more. So please, thank you for subscribing. Make sure you hit that subscribe button. Make sure you hit that like button because over the next couple of weeks, there are going to be times that we might not be scheduled,
Starting point is 01:52:47 but because something happened, Ocho and I will be going live that night. And so we want to make sure that you hit those notifications so that you will be alerted that when Ocho and I do. So please make sure you hit that subscribe button. Blind Pew asked, tell me how many quarterbacks aside from Mahomes and Burrell could have overcome that non-existent Cowboys defense.
Starting point is 01:53:07 Not many, especially now. The defense like that, you're going to have to match them score for score. Yeah. But if you turn it over, you're doomed because, you know, your defense not stopping. So. They're going to have to be flawless. One turnover. Because think about it. They, well, it was 7-0, 14-0,
Starting point is 01:53:32 and then all of a sudden they get a pick. I think they got the pick. I think Jair made it like 20, made it 20, missed the PAT. So now, in order for you to get back into the ball game they've already stolen one of your possessions so now in order for you to get back
Starting point is 01:53:52 you have to steal one of their possessions score and get a stop so it's hard I don't know not like that I mean how many times the green Bay punt? Twice? I know they punted when they bought the
Starting point is 01:54:07 back of the field three times. Maybe three times. Hmm. I think they punted three times. I could pull it out of here. Damn, I know that shit hurt. I know my boy is sitting at home sick right now, man. Damn.
Starting point is 01:54:27 Nah, don't be sick. What you sick for? That's crazy. Okay. We're going to be back next year, though. Oh, you promise? You sure? Oh, I know so. I know so because I told you what needs to happen. I'm never in this space. I'm never on this type of platform. I've never been given the chance to say what needs to happen. You have a team that hasn't won anything since, new quarterback, new head coach, new defensive coordinator.
Starting point is 01:55:06 Everything is changing, and the results continue to happen the same way. First round exit. First round exit. Great regular season. Great regular season. Awesome regular season. First round exit. First round exit. God damn, I wonder what the motherfucking problem is.
Starting point is 01:55:22 I wonder what it is. It's always the same person. Always at the forefront. Oh, he want all the attention. Oh, he making all the headlines. Oh, my helicopter. Oh, my team. Oh, Jerry's world. Oh, I got the biggest, biggest, biggest screen in, in, at all this, all the 32 stadiums.
Starting point is 01:55:37 Yeah. He's the problem. That, that's the problem. And take a back seat, relax, chill, keep your feet up. You know, chill on your yacht. Watch the game from your yacht. Watch the game from your yacht for a change. Don't even come to the game. Jay asks, much love, Uncle Nocho.
Starting point is 01:55:54 Man, watching these young quarterbacks teams put them in position makes me feel bad for Bryce Young. That's it. Boy, listen, that's a totally unfair for young Bull over there in Carolina. Yes. Totally unfair for young Bull, man, for what he has surrounding him. And that's no disrespect to what they have going on. But to go into a situation like that, you got to have the pieces around him for him to succeed. You got to.
Starting point is 01:56:21 You got to. You're dead in the water, man. You're absolutely right, Ochoa. You're dead in the water. You do. You do. You have to. You're dead in the water, man. You're absolutely right, Ochoa. You're dead in the water. You do. You do. You have to have an offensive line that's protected. And if you look at Green Bay, they did a great job of protecting.
Starting point is 01:56:32 And when he got some pressure, he was able to retreat, throw the ball sidearm, get the ball out, make big plays. You look at C.J. Stroud, line does a great job. They can run the football. Green Bay can run the football, take some pressure off him. So you do have to, when you have a young quarterback, you need to be able to run the football and to protect it. But if you look at those receivers that they got in Houston,
Starting point is 01:56:55 you look at the receivers that they got in Green Bay. And they're young. All of them young. They're first and second, you guys. Young. Nico Collins, cut the fool. Yes, I believe if Bryce Young gets some receivers, gets some O-line protection, I think he'll be just fine.
Starting point is 01:57:16 Nate asks, do coaches on staff that keep up with your tendencies and make sure you're not that easy for other teams to key on? Well, you break yourself down because at the midway point um we would all get a print out uh and it says okay we ran this play out of this formation we've got a break tendency so oh yeah oh yeah mike didn't play we broke everything down how many times we ran it from this formation how many times we ran it from this formation? How many times we ran it from that formation? How many times did this area of the field that we ran it? Down in distance that we ran it in?
Starting point is 01:57:52 Everything down to the tee. So you could break tendencies. Therefore, teams wouldn't be able to key on. And we took teams off too. Now, obviously, we weren't the only one that was breaking, trying to break tendencies right but at the end of the day whatever john feel whatever your players feel most comfortable with you'll run that play because you want them to feel their absolute best when you
Starting point is 01:58:17 call a play you want them to feel because that's normally what the quarterback has gone over you know okay what you okay you know you have all these plays, Ocho. You know, you have 100 and some plays. And the quarterback says, okay, here's 75 of the plays that I feel most comfortable with. I like these. Then you get your first 15. Okay, you get your first third down.
Starting point is 01:58:39 Okay, on your fourth down, you got your two-point play. You know, your four-meter offense. So, yes, Nate Nate you're absolutely right yes they're there you break that down and you look at tendencies because the one thing you do you want to break tendencies you see the Cowboys the Green Bay studied them they know they like to have the big receiver which is CD out wide and he's they have a big window so they ran Brandon cook through well we haven't seen on tape him hit brandon cooks as the first receiver going through savage passed it off now the only thing don't drop it that's gonna hit you in the chest with it don't drop it he didn't drop it. Dang.
Starting point is 01:59:27 Kenneth Sims says, really enjoy the show. Ocho is a Hall of Famer. He played in the division, mostly ran the ball outdoors along with Heinz Wars. It's not all about stats. It's about impact and attention to detail.
Starting point is 01:59:37 They both played in the era with Randy and T.O. What do you say? I say you right. I say you can see. I can see clearly now. The rain... Oh, shit.
Starting point is 01:59:51 I forgot. My bad. We can't do that. We can't do that. No, we sure can. Yeah, I forgot. Yeah. I like what you're saying.
Starting point is 02:00:00 Can you tell my girl, Kenta, happy birthday. She needs to give me oh she needs oh you say she needs to give me some tonight i got that blue diamond ready okay kenta don't do the right thing by the man yeah happy birthday kenta and matter of fact don't don't trouble kenta yeah of trouble. Hey, young bull, don't let off the leash. Don't let you getting something be your gift. Don't do that.
Starting point is 02:00:31 No, no, no, no. Don't let her get away with that. Don't let you getting something be the gift. Make sure she get you something. If she don't get you nothing for your birthday, boy, exit stage left. You hear me? I want better for you. Don't let him get away with that.
Starting point is 02:00:44 All the work you put in throughout the year. Boy, listen to me. If you don't get a gift, I need you to hit my DM. We're going to get you one. We're going to get you right. It's 2024. We're not selling for less. We want gifts in 2024. We want gifts in 2024. We want gifts? Yeah, yeah. We don't want what we've been getting all year as the gift. Because they love to use it.
Starting point is 02:01:14 They love their little poonanny as your gift. Nah, we ain't doing that. We grown. Yeah, who I ain't no gift? Nah. Uh-uh. Boy, hit me DM, boy. If you need to reset, I got you.
Starting point is 02:01:26 I got some down here that don't even know English. They holler at you. Boy, that. So what you think would be a good gift? Well, I mean, basic understanding in the economy, understanding the times that we're in. There's so many ways to be thoughtful. Sometimes it ain't even got to be about money. Create something, make something, you know, based on your
Starting point is 02:01:47 circumstances. I don't know your circumstances, but you got to get something nice. You got to be thoughtful depending on where you're at. I don't know what your money looking like, but if it ain't looking right, you got to do something. Yeah. This is for the women out there. You know, you got to do something. Stop trying to get a little... They try to package it off, they put
Starting point is 02:02:03 some large rates on it. Ooh, look what I got you. Nah, nah, nah. All you did was do something. Stop trying to get your little... They try to package it up. They put some large rates. Oh, look what I got you. Nah, nah, nah. All you did was dress down. Come on, Dad. I don't have it before. Nope. I want something new. Fellas, stop falling for that.
Starting point is 02:02:13 You've been hitting that same shit all year long. This is a day for you. Special day. Give me something new. Nope. Nope. Show me some thoughts. Show me your care.
Starting point is 02:02:20 I can't say, oh, baby, guess what I got you? I got you a black hammer this time. I got you a black hammer for a gift. You ain't going to go for that, so I ain't going for oh, baby, guess what I got you? I got you a black hammer this time. I got you a black hammer for a gift. You ain't going to go for that, so I ain't going for the hoo-ha gift. Nope, nope, nope. I'm tired. Hey, they think they take a shower, put that little Victoria's Secret stuff down,
Starting point is 02:02:37 and make a clean deal like it's new. That ain't new. I know that. Come on, man. Yeah, they drop rose petals. Who going to clean this shit? Who going to clean this mess up? You done dropped all the rose petals on my floor and got some candles.
Starting point is 02:02:48 All right, that's fine and good. Yeah, okay. I saw that in the movies too. But y'all, you going to clean this up too. The cleaning lady don't come until Tuesday. And it's Sunday. With my gift. Gift. Yes. Yes. What you spend on me. And don't use my money.
Starting point is 02:03:03 You take it out. And it's coming out of a package. Taking off lingerie ain't no unboxing. Uh-uh. Hmm. See, we think of the same thing. Joshua Romero says, Ocho, being a Cowboy fan is like eating at McDonald's. They advertise to look good, but rarely taste how it looks.
Starting point is 02:03:27 Also, Michael coming in like quarter to three for that paycheck. Michael be wide open about that check now. He going to want that money now. Yeah, they ain't got no choice. Three-time Pro Bowler, a two-time first-team All-Pro, a defensive rookie of the year. Yeah. So you got no choice.
Starting point is 02:03:43 You can't even play with him. You got no choice. And he's like 25. How old, Michael? 25 no choice. You can't even play with him. You got no choice. And he probably, and he like 25. How old, Michael? 25? Is Michael 25 yet? He probably 24.
Starting point is 02:03:50 How old is he? I think he about 24. Young boy, he gonna see two more. He 24. He gonna see two more deals. He'll be 25, he'll be 25 in May.
Starting point is 02:04:00 Oh, yeah. Back at the brink truck, baby. Oh, Michael, Michael about. Oh, Mike about to get $100 million to sign. I'm talking about, no, $100 million. I mean, sign about $100 million. Easily. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:04:16 Rightfully so. Based on the marketing, where we in the times we're in right now. Easily. And I'm here for it. Yeah. I'm here for it. Nah, don't be on our side, man. Don't be on our side. No, no, no, no. I'm here for it. Yeah. I'm here for it. Nuh-uh.
Starting point is 02:04:25 Don't be on our side, man. Don't be on our side. No, no, no, no. I'm for them to get paid. I want everybody to get paid. Okay. Don't get no discounts. Okay, yeah.
Starting point is 02:04:34 Because guess what? There's going to come a time players are going to cut you. Yeah. And they're going to have no sympathy. They ain't going to have none. Then you hear that knock at the door. Mm-mm.
Starting point is 02:04:47 So get your money. Playbook. Get all your money, Micah. Get all of it. All. CD. Hey. Say, my name's CD.
Starting point is 02:04:58 I need to see some zeros. A lot of them, Jaren. Lots of them. Highest paid. They coming. Because whoever signed first, they're only going lots of them highest paid they coming because whoever signed first they're only gonna be the highest paid receiver for a day yes because you know you know you know you know justin just jj coming behind uh uh uh chase coming a chase it is what it is oh joe it is what it is so i ain't got no problem with it. Get that money. Get that money, young boy. Ren asks,
Starting point is 02:05:28 really love watching y'all. Quick question. Why don't all teams have domes? That's good. Buffalo, Green Bay. Because I want the advantage. That's the advantage I have is the elements. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:05:44 Is it really an advantage, though, if you're putting your team in hot weather if the weather's really bad? Was it an advantage for Kansas City? Yeah, somewhat. Just like Miami has an advantage when the games are played in September, as hot as it is.
Starting point is 02:06:01 Right. You know what? I have a question about that. What's up? You think about Kansas City, right? Kansas City, Cincinnati, other cold weather cities. I think Miami would have been
Starting point is 02:06:12 used to playing in the cold if it was like a normal Kansas City day. Right. But Kansas City and Miami... Yeah, if it was like 30 degrees, 20 degrees. That's normal.
Starting point is 02:06:21 But Kansas City and Miami were both at a disadvantage because of the elements. Kansas City ain't used to playing no goddamn negative anything. No, no, no. So the playing field was even when it comes to Mother Nature. That definitely wasn't no excuse.
Starting point is 02:06:37 They wanted it more. They looked like they wanted it more. Miami is their fault. They had a three-game lead over Buffalo. All they had to do was handle their business. It all would have been taken care of. It would have been at home. That's on them. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:06:49 They'd have been at home in nice 70-degree weather. Yeah. But they went to bed, and boom, that's what happened. But that's the thing. I was surprised because, you know, Minnesota used to play outside. Minnesota used to have a dome. That's right. Before they got a dome. Yeah, you're right. Everybody, with the exception of Detroit, everybody play outside. Minnesota used to have a dome. Before they got a dome.
Starting point is 02:07:05 Yeah, you're right. Everybody, with the exception of Detroit, everybody was outside. Mm-hmm. And so you know that. Minnesota is dreadful, boy. Oh, my goodness. That's like New York or New England. Times two.
Starting point is 02:07:21 Yeah. Oh, man. Hey, Green Bay. Think about it. You go in Green Bay, Chicago, Minnesota. Oh, man. Hey, Green Bay. Think about it. You go in Green Bay, Chicago, Minnesota. Oh, Chicago. I don't want no part of that. They need a dome because the goddamn Windy City, man, that's bad.
Starting point is 02:07:40 Eleni Reyes, no name and names, but they'll know who they are. What's the worst gift you ever received Shannon and Ocho I'm trying to think yeah that's a good one I don't I ask for what I want
Starting point is 02:08:00 I don't allow anyone to just buy anything because I'm very peculiar on some of the things that I like because I don't want you really wasting big money on things that I'm not going to like. I'm very peculiar. I really haven't ever gotten a bad gift because someone asked what it is
Starting point is 02:08:13 that I like and I tell you what it is. It's always something small and thoughtful that ain't going to cost much that I want. None of it costs much. Huh? It doesn't cost much. The stuff I like don't cost much. Man, You don't need to cost much. The stuff I like don't cost much. Man, I done spent 10, 15 bands on you.
Starting point is 02:08:29 You better get me something that costs at least $2,500. Or $5,000. Nah. You spent $10,000, $15,000 on who? Huh? On a woman? Yeah.
Starting point is 02:08:44 You spent that much on a woman? Yeah. You spend that much? What, you spend that much on a woman? I have, yeah. Yeah, what? Well, you better than me. Shit. Shit. I just, I'm just,
Starting point is 02:08:55 you know what, Ocho? I told you, Ocho, you know my gift? Yeah. Cash. Okay, okay, okay, okay. That way you buy what you want. Right, right, right, right, right.
Starting point is 02:09:04 Because, you know, women are iffy. Women are funny when it comes to buying stuff, you know. You look at me funny and I buy you something and your body language ain't reciprocating thank you. It is what it is, Ochoa. Oh, hell, that'll be the last time. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:09:21 Yeah, but you won't. That'll be the last time. I mean, my kids, my kids like, you know. The kids always call my sister and ask her, what should we get dad? Dad has everything. She say, well, he likes this, he wears this, he wears that. So the kids give me gifts. That's simple.
Starting point is 02:09:42 But me, like, when it comes to my mom, my sister, just give money. Hmm. That always works. You can't never go wrong now. You can't never go wrong when it comes to giving a gift for you. And you give money, you can't never go wrong. Because it allows them to be able to get what they want. Yeah, get what you want.
Starting point is 02:09:58 So you don't get it wrong. And plus, I like the fact because I don't want to give you a gift and you really needed the money to do something else with. You know what I'm saying, Ocho? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Or you take the gift that I do get you and you go get the money back. Yeah. But I'm like, look, my thing is, look, if it's the wrong color, you know, like, get the color you want. I got a couple, but I'm done. I'm done with that.
Starting point is 02:10:27 I ain't, look, just get what the hell you want and I'll give you the money and you can go buy your own gift. It's the thought that counts. I thought enough of you to go to my bank and get cash out and give it to you. Well, you better than me, bro. What?
Starting point is 02:10:43 What, 10, 15,000? Well, you know how much that is? I ain't spending that, boy, than me, bro. What? What, $10,000, $15,000? Well, you know how much that is? I ain't spending that. Boy, I ain't spending. Boy, shit. I ain't spending. I ain't spending that thing. Not no $10,000, $15,000.
Starting point is 02:10:56 Come on, Ojo. Stop being cheap. Stall them out, man. I'm not being cheap. I'm just being wise and understanding. If you spend $10,000, $15,000 that sets a precedent. So then they're going to always be looking for $10,000 or $15,000
Starting point is 02:11:10 and, you know, I can't... Well, here's the thing though, Ocho. Let me see. That might be a one-off because if things are not where they're supposed to be, that'll be the last Christmas you get. Hold on. Wait, so you spent $10,000, $15,000 and then it's a one-off and then it's gone?
Starting point is 02:11:26 Then you out your money? I don't care nothing about that, Ocho. I want peace. Shit, man. Shit. Shit. Hey. Why you tripping? You don't care?
Starting point is 02:11:44 Boy, you talking like Uncle Sam. Like you print money over there. I don't care. I print peace, though. Uh-uh. I can't. Oh, Joe, you can't put it right. You know what they tell you?
Starting point is 02:11:54 You don't pay him to stay. You pay him to leave. Huh? There you go. See? You don't pay him to stay. You pay him to leave. But $10,000, $15,000, that's too much
Starting point is 02:12:03 because the Uber ain't cost that much. Uber ain't number $10. Mm- much. Uber ain't number $10. Uber ain't number $10. But, Ocho, the thing is, look, if I spend that kind of time with you, you know, look, hopefully, you know, you think enough of me, I think enough of you.
Starting point is 02:12:21 We're going to spend time together. You're going to protect me. I'm going to protect you. We're going to be cool. When we go our ways, we go our ways. We don't speak ill of each other. As a matter of fact, nobody will ever know that I even talked to you. I don't like that. I don't like that. I don't like that. What? You want people to know you talked to old lady? I'm just saying, I just don't like the fact they're spending that kind of money and that individual
Starting point is 02:12:49 has the nerve and the audacity to go these separate ways because things don't work out. I don't like that. Yeah, hell, I don't want them to stay. Well, do you get your money back? No. What do you mean you don't get your money back?
Starting point is 02:12:59 So you've invested $10,000, $15,000 into somebody and your money going like that. It's okay, It's okay. During these times and this economic crisis, you can't stand to take a loss like that. We can't stand to take a loss like that.
Starting point is 02:13:13 I ain't taking no loss. I ain't taking no loss. I'm fine. Oh, it's a loss. I ain't no loss. I know you're fine, but you can't get that money back. I ain't trying to.
Starting point is 02:13:21 It's two things. I don't want them back either. You can't get back time. You can't get back that money. And I don't want them back either. Damn. That's an investment right there too, man. It ain't no investment.
Starting point is 02:13:34 Baby. Baby. She asleep. 10, 15, she die. Hey. Come here. Oh, shit. That's tough, boy.
Starting point is 02:13:50 So, and like, y'all don't talk no more at all? You don't even ask for your money back? You don't get the gifts back? You're not an Indian giver? I've never asked for a gift back. Oh, shit. Never.
Starting point is 02:14:00 I don't want it. What the hell am I doing? Boy, listen. You know how it felt. Obviously, we're in the time now where you get BBLs and women want makeovers and enhancements, breasts. Boy, I'm just saying. I'm just hypothetically speaking. If I was to be with somebody and I was to help with the makeover and the upkeep and the details and making you look the part
Starting point is 02:14:25 and good about yourself. And you think you're going to leave me and take everything I paid for and give it to the next man. Uh-uh, baby, let me get that ass and give me that ass and tell you before you go. Oh, you got me fucked up. You think you finna have Jerome
Starting point is 02:14:41 sucking on and hitting what I pay for? Oh, no, baby. Before you leave that house today, put them ass and titties on my table and go on about your business. Then you can go. But see, that's why you have to be careful
Starting point is 02:14:55 when you do breast augmentations or you do things for a woman to accentuate her body. Because my grandpa used to say all the time, boy, you be careful fattening frogs for another snake to eat. Man, you know what? Where's my goddamn...
Starting point is 02:15:12 So, you're going to get the BBL and you get fillers and you get breast augmentation. Let me give him a pen now. That was a good one. Let me give him a pen. Boy, you know I ain't finna let that one right there go to waste, boy. I ain't finna let that one go to waste. Say that one more time. You better be careful
Starting point is 02:15:35 fattening frogs for another snake to eat. So you get them lip fillers and you get all that Botox and you get breast augmentation and you get BBL Botox and you get breast augmentation and you get BBL. Right. Mm-hmm. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:15:48 You get the hip. You get, you know, they get the hip. They got hip dip. So, you know, they get that fixed. Okay. Just know. Listen,
Starting point is 02:15:57 I'm not even, I'm not playing with you because I spend anything on any type of enhancements to make you look at Paul so you feel better about yourself. Mommy makeovers, all that. If we don't work out,
Starting point is 02:16:11 as God is my witness, as Jesus got the will, you leaving that shit with me. Take that ass out, get them titties, and leave that shit on the table. I promise. Hey, hey.
Starting point is 02:16:21 No, first of all. Hey, hey. I'm not going to play to get you. If you ever thought about it, make sure you leave it on the table before you go. Arielle was already stacked before you met her. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:16:38 Yeah. I'm just saying. Just throwing that out there. But that ain't you. You didn't do that. She worked for that. How are you going to tell her to leave something she had before she met you? I'm just saying Just throwing that out there But that ain't you You didn't do that She worked for that Huh? How you gonna tell her To leave something she had Before she met you? I put that work in
Starting point is 02:16:50 That ain't nothing but the hips That ain't nothing but the hips That's my work That's my due diligence Don't do that Don't do that Oh that was a baby That's a baby that got
Starting point is 02:16:58 Them hips to spray like that Yeah yeah You dope You dope You dope You ignorant My baby My baby done cursed me I told her She told me shut the hell up Yeah, you dope. You dope. You dope. You ignorant. My baby done cursed me.
Starting point is 02:17:09 I told her, she told me, shut the hell up. Yeah. Yeah, you feel a real secret. What time it is? It ain't number 120. She don't need to be sleeping no way. She got to say she got to work in the morning. She ain't got to go nowhere.
Starting point is 02:17:24 She ain't got to go nowhere? It's Monday. I got to leave town. Oh, it's Martin Luther King, Dr. King holiday tomorrow. Bingo, it's a holiday. Good. That means the streets will be empty tomorrow when we go to work. Yeah, they will. The airport should be empty too
Starting point is 02:17:39 when I leave. Yeah, that definitely should be the case. No, but Ochoa, look, I mean, I've had women to give me things back and said, you know. Right. Because they say, well, I don't want it because it will remind me of you. Of you.
Starting point is 02:17:55 Okay, I like that. So guess what? My sister, Rocky, Louis, Gucci, I ain't got no problem with Gucci. Mm-hmm. I ain't got no problem with it. Okay, fine. My sister take it.
Starting point is 02:18:12 But I've never requested, had a bought, purchased a gift in my gift-giving days and says, okay, we break up and I give me this. I've never been like that. Yeah, that's the end of it. Well, you better than me, young.
Starting point is 02:18:23 You better than me. I remember I had the 64 box of crayons. I had the 64 box of crayons in kindergarten. And I used to share. I had this girl I used to like. I never forget. You liked her. Yeah, I liked her.
Starting point is 02:18:37 So I had that 64 box of crayons. And I gave her a few of the red shades of the crayon. You know, red was my favorite color back then. I gave her a few of the red shades and said, you. You know, red was my favorite color back then. I gave her a few of the red shades and said, you know what? I like you. I want you to have this. And I seen her. I'll never forget.
Starting point is 02:18:50 We went to PE class and she was over there, you know, kiki and ha ha ha with David. And we came back from PE. You took the crayons back. I took my goddamn crayons back. You ain't finna play in front of my face. And that's where it all started. And from that moment on,
Starting point is 02:19:06 I never let a woman play in front of my face like that again. You know, where you didn't value what I brought to the table. I brought red crayons. You ain't bringing
Starting point is 02:19:15 no more crayons. Well, you know what red, the 64 box of Crayola crayons was back then? He might have brought a Capri Sun. But that was royalty. Boy, you was royalty
Starting point is 02:19:24 if you had that 64 box of crayons. He might have brought... Wait. Sun. But that was royalty. Boy, you was royalty if you had that 64 box of crayons. He might have brought... Wait. With a sharpen and a bat? Yeah. What if he brought Capri Sun and two graham crackers? He trumped you. Nah.
Starting point is 02:19:34 Nah. Not in kindergarten. He ain't had that. They fed us. You remember them little juices? Them little blassy little juice? Oh, quarter juice. We call them quarter juice.
Starting point is 02:19:43 Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Quarter juice. He got the graham cracker and the quarter juice. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You got to grab the quarter juice. Yeah. Drop your crayons.
Starting point is 02:19:49 Hey, that's a good one. Yeah. Hey, that's a good one. Nah, but I ain't taking nothing back. We good. I got you. Well, you know,
Starting point is 02:19:56 there's some people that's like that. I'm just, you know, just playing around. I'm not like that. You know, if you get something, you know, it is. Yeah, I don't want
Starting point is 02:20:05 it back yeah yeah it's cool yeah thank you man thank you for watching another episode of nightcap i'm your favorite sports uh shannon sharp he's your favorite number 85. Hey, wait. Who is this? Who is this? You know who this is? Oka Choa? Hey. He was so good, his mama had to name him twice.
Starting point is 02:20:37 J.J. Okocha. Okocha? The greatest Nigerian soccer player of all time. I'm just throwing it out there. I don't know. You don't know who it is. I ain't into no soccer. Yeah, he that boy. I just leave it like that.
Starting point is 02:20:52 Go ahead. You can finish. You can finish. Yeah, please make sure you hit that like button. Make sure you hit that subscribe button. Thank you for joining us for another episode of Nightcap. I'm your favorite sports ump, Shannon Sharp. He's your favorite number 85. Route runner extraordinaire.
Starting point is 02:21:05 We've also pinned Shea by LaPortia at the top of the chat. Make sure with the holidays right around the corner, make sure you go out and get yourself a bottle or for someone that you love. To recap what happened this afternoon, the Lions beat the Rams 24-23 and spoiled Matthew Stafford's return. Now they'll face the winner of the Eagles-Tampa Bay game
Starting point is 02:21:28 because the Green Bay Packers did a demolition job on the Cowboys, beat the Cowboys 48-32. And by winning that game, they're off to San Francisco next week. So the Cowboys lose 48-32 at home. The Lions win 24-23. Spoiled map. Staffers return. Thank you again for joining us.
Starting point is 02:21:50 We'll see you again. I don't know when, but maybe tomorrow. Huh? Tomorrow. Okay. We'll see you again tomorrow. We on tomorrow? We on tomorrow.
Starting point is 02:22:02 I see y'all tomorrow. Oh, we got two games. We got two games tomorrow night. Yeah, at 430. 430, 8 o'clock. Yes, yes. We'll see you tomorrow night. The Bill We on tomorrow. I see y'all tomorrow. Oh, we got two games. We got, they got two games tomorrow night. Yeah, at 4.30, 4.30, 8 o'clock. Yes, yes. We'll see you tomorrow night. The Bill Steelers tomorrow. And I can, ooh, that's going to be worse.
Starting point is 02:22:12 That's going to be worse than Tampa, the worst in the Kansas City, because they say the weather is not, it's going to be unrelenting. Oh, so it didn't clear up yet? Mm-mm. But what was the point of changing the game if the weather's still going to be the same?
Starting point is 02:22:23 Because they thought it was going to clear up. And the weather said, we ain't cooperating. They should have just moved it. They just went to a neutral location. Simple. Problem solved. No. Well, good luck with that. We'll see you tomorrow after tomorrow's ballgame.
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