Nightcap - Super Bowl LX Radio Row Day 1: Part 1 - Reaction to Steelers OC hire + Terrell Davis Joins!

Episode Date: February 4, 2026

Join NFL Legends James "Deebo" Harrison and Joe Haden LIVE from San Francisco Radio Row ahead of Super Bowl LX featuring Sam Darnold and the Seattle Seahawks vs. Drake Maye and the New England Patriots. Deebo & Joe react to the Pittsburgh Steelers expecting to hire Brian Angelichio as OC, and NFL Hall of Famers Terrell Davis joins! (Timestamps may vary based on advertisements.) #Club #NightcapSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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We had a good time Yesterday too man Great time Took you over there Across that little bridge The little low bridge You know what I'm saying You're a wild man

You're a wild man And I know This is what makes me Understand you too I'm understanding You getting to know You were starting to really hang out You are

when I think about when I was asking like, what would Deboe want to do? I'm like, yeah, what about to do? We're going to the Golden State Bridge and we're going to walk across it. Yeah. We're going to the Golden Gate Bridge. I wouldn't have been, I wouldn't have did it with anybody but you. So I appreciate that, Debo. Yeah, listen, you got, I told you, I'm a little, I'm a little afraid of heights,

but you were so scared that it was like easy for me. Like, I go after my fears, Joe, that's what I do. You attack that fear. I do it. I attack over. You asked, you said that you were afraid of heights, but you were acting like you was going to jump over. You were too close to the edge for me, Dibov. No.

You're wilding. I'm trying to get you just to touch it. If I'm doing that, I got you to touch the edge. I got you to walk over there. No, sir. No, sir. Not me. Like, it's easy work, Joe.

I'm afraid of heights. Bungy court. We're jumping off. That's what you said next. Next, I'm going to watch you. You bungee and I sky. I skydive. I said skydive him first before Bunger.

I skydive with you first and then we'll be a bungee. No. You'll skydive with me and I'm going to watch you bungee. No, no, no, no, no, no. There's no way. There's no way. You got to go skydive, but you ain't go bun jump? Because I'm going to know, I'm going to know for sure.

Sooner I jump out, I'm pulling my shoot. If my shoot don't work, pulling the second shoot. You can't jump as soon as you. You can't pull as soon as you jump out, dude. Why? It's going to get caught up in the plane and everything. I mean, not instantly. Like, I'm going to be allowed to that.

You can't single jump by yourself the first time. You got a tandem jump. You're going to have a man. Oh, I need it. That's even better. That's even better. Wow. Yeah.

Yeah. Exactly. That's even better. Pause. So I told you, Paul. You nasty dog. Come on, man. How you doing no, bro?

You're good? You know I'm good, man. Come on, man. Hey, good, last night, too. Hey, great. We went to two steakhouse. We went to a water bar, and then we hit up Maestro. That was a steakhousehouse out.

That was a seafood drink. But, Maestro's. Mastroes. Mastroos is on point. Great steak. Had that, had that good, what was that came especially like? Yeah, you did. Yeah, you did.

Yeah, you did. I went, I went a little tequila, you know, on the rock. You went a little both. I went a little both. Double double fade. That's what my eyes are a little red. That's what I'm. Yeah. Okay.

Good times, though. Definitely good times, brother. Let's jump on into this, man. Yes, sir, yes, sir. It is looking like distiller's are going to be hiring Brian Angelico. Okay. For the OC. Okay.

I guess he was the passing coordinator over there in Minnesota. Mm-hmm. They actually did pretty good. I was checking it out, like 22, 22, 23, 24, something like that, 25. They just kind of, but they had a quarterback that was, uh. Yeah. So what do you think of that? What do you think of that?

I, this all, Mike McCarthy is calling the plays. You know what I'm saying? So if he likes to OC and he thinks that he's going to be able to figure it out and he's, he just knows I like Mark McCarthy knows. Whoever he picks is on him. So that's your offensive coordinator, but you still call him the play. So you and him better be on the same page. So I'm geeked for whoever he hires because, he knows what's on the line.

If he likes him, I love him. You know what I'm saying? That's what I feel. I don't know too much about him, but I feel like Mike McCarthy knows what he needs to do to get that offense right, and he's calling the plays. So you're going to bring people that on your same wavelength, for sure.

Also, a lot of these, well, everybody that I've seen had some sort of relationship with him in, you know, in the past where they worked with him. So I'm with you, man. And then just, like I said, just looking at his whole little setup the last four years over there, with Minnesota. Yeah.

He did well until they decided to throw the boy to the win and go with the brook. Yeah. Their offense man with us, Sam, they was doing good. Jefferson was always getting off. So, I mean, like with Jefferson said, if they would have kept Sam Darnold there, I don't think it would have,

I think it would have looked a lot better than it did now. For sure. They definitely had to look a lot better than it do now. What is this? The fourth different OC, the still is there that had The last, what? Four years, something like that?

Last four seasons? We need it. Yeah. We need it. We need it. We can't get nothing together. But then also the same point, like, maybe if they gave them another year,

they could have did something better, but I don't, I don't know. Are we trying to get that up? I don't think, I don't think. I don't think that. I don't think that people can hear you. I don't think the people can hear you, Debo. You almost got fired on too sweet.

Look. All right, I'll let you hear. That closer Why is so close here When we move it up higher You want me to block my face Anyway Listen

Like I was saying You know everything's happening In the real time It's real time It's real time It's real time I like this man I just can't

I got to stay I got to stay close Debo To the book of James What we say Slow Quick to listen Quick to listen

Slow to speak Slow to speak Slow to anger Come on slow to anger Hey Okay I'm gonna have to take my time Speaking of being

Slow to Slow to anger Listen man They had your boy Todd Munkin over there He told him they wasn't, you know, when they prepared for the Cleveland Browns, he said, I was, I wasn't chipping Jim Shores. He said, I was chipping Miles Garris.

So basically he's saying, listen, man, we're going to be good regardless. With or without you. But they ain't given, though, if we go do something with him and not something with him. Why is that? What's going on? So, I mean, Jim Sports kind of went hard, though. Like, I think he went, when they found out he wasn't getting the head coaching job, I think he was legitimately pissed.

So he's cleaning out his locker He's cleaning out his stuff Like acting like if I don't get the head coach job I'm out But then Monkin is awesome End of the day he knows the team likes him The team one of the miles Garrett had a really good relationship So he coming in that during like

Look end of the day I'm the head coach I'm going to be running this Jim Smores was the defensive coordinator I know you guys liked them But this is my show And end of the day we're going to still Miles we're going to still attack

I came here because of you guys I didn't come here because of the way Jim Schwartz was coaching guys like Miles you're still here Denzel Ward, you're still here. So I like the coach to be like, bump what Jim Swartz is talking about. If he's not here, this is my program,

and this is what we're going to do. So I think he's just trying to set the authority. Like, look, it's all good. I know the defense was good. Jim Swartz, I know y'all love him and everything, but end of the day, this is my ship. You know what I'm saying? And I need y'all to come on and come aboard.

So I think he's really just trying to show who's boss. Like, I'm like, Jim, I hear you. But this is my Cleveland Browns team. Miles Garrett, I got you. we're going to be good. So I think he was just doing that. So the team would support him, and they know where the buck stops. This is what I'm finding a little.

What you find it a little weird? A little weird is he's hiring or he's getting guys for the offensive side of the ball, but he ain't did nothing on defense yet with anybody. Why is that, Joe? I think they kind of still might be sitting off in the cut like, hey, maybe they could talk to him, get him to come back, Joe. I would hope so. I want Jim Swartz to come back.

But the vibe that he's giving off talking about some, I wasn't chipping Jim Swartz. Yeah, it's over with. I'm just saying, you're disrespectful now. I'm like, if you were trying to keep it wanted Jim Swartz to come back. He's not disrespect. Not disrespecting. But if you want somebody to come back and work for you,

I'm not saying that out in the media. That's not helping your case. That's looking like, yeah, I don't need you, brother. Who you got to realize, you know, he was a Ravens coach for a little while. I was talking So a guy that was, you know And now he's feeling a certain kind of way Yes, yes, legit

You know Stumped your feet up out of there You know You know took all your stuff Clean did like throwing your stuff In boxes loud Shaking it and everything while you're up Everybody you know

I'm out of here You know They didn't did what they didn't do Would you come back if you was Jim Schwartz Stucky Let me give you a real answer Yeah, give me a real answer. Let me sit back.

Slow. Slow. Quick to listen. Slow to listen. Slow to speak. What would you do if you were Jim Swartz? I'm tearing that motherfucker down. I'm going to burn it up on the way out.

You're not going to back. Yes. That right there, I wasn't chipping Jim Swartz. I was chipping Miles Garrett. That doesn't sound like Todd Monke and you want me to be on your team. So I wouldn't have said that if I was trying to keep him around. But also, see, that was ego. See, you got to be careful with the ego.

Eagle. Eagle, too. I know. Strife, you can't beat, listen. Let me slow back. Let me get back and see. God talked to me. He said, hey.

Come here. Yeah. I think I would have to sit back, have a real true conversation with myself. Mm-hmm. With ownership and then with the new coach. Mm-hmm. And make a thought-out decision. Thought-out decision.

From there. Now, if we could have that decision and I only got a year left on, mine and maybe it was okay we're going to give you a little bump a little bonus a little bonus in that bay you know stretch it out maybe a couple more

and you already live there I'm already there maybe I could stay okay I hope so because my players they want you my players come first like that's what

that's what brought me back in 2014 I he's Troy That's what brought me back out of retirement in 2014, because I was good. I was down. But they said, hey, bro, you know, you don't even need the money. So what you're talking about? Like, we need you.

You're my brother. Yeah. The relationships. You know what I'm saying? My kids call you uncle. Your kids call me. Like, the relationship, I was like, yeah, I'm back. I'm coming.

I got to do it. So sitting back, looking at it, I think it would be a more talked out decision. Instead of being a little hot. hot-headed about it, you know, you got to sit back, you know. Like Joe Burrell said, you know, everybody has a bad day. Joe said he, you know, he's happy over there in Cincinnati. I don't understand how he said, I just don't understand. He's happy in Cincinnati.

Debo, he's play. He plays, he's still in the league, and you know all of these, how they coach you up, how they coach you up. You can't just be out here saying everything, and you can't just be out here saying everything. and you can't just be out here saying how you really feel. No, he was saying how he really felt. Because look at it, his response was, yeah. He said, I think everybody has bad days, right? He said, everybody has a bad day.

Sometimes they fall on press conference day, you know? It happens. Like, come on, bro. That's what he said. He just had a bad day. He was in his feelings. He was in his feelings. He was feeling a certain way.

But, Joe, listen, you're just saying that. Joe, you're just saying that because, It's the right thing to say as a team player, Joe. Check your DM. You D-D-D-M-D? Joe, check your DM. I went to sports track. I looked at your contract.

It's the way we can correct this. And get him to see. You see who we got over there. We got McCarthy over there. Yes. See what he did. Daniel Rogers. Joe.

that would be the best thing possible ever, Debo. If the Steelers got Joe Burrow. D.A. I'm just saying. I'm just saying, I'm just saying it don't hurt to have a conversation. Jammy, you know what? The way things get started is you have to throw it out in the air. You got to put it out in the atmosphere.

It don't hurt to have the conversation. And I'm going to lie to you, though. I think Joe Burrow, like I said, he's not. happy there. So when he really said that stuff, when he was talking about the team and what was going on, that's genuine feelings. So he said everybody has a bad day. No, everybody has a point of when they're going to tell you

the honest truth and it might have slipped out. That's what I think. A hurt body or speak a sober mind. Come on, brother. Just like a drunk... Come on, man. With speaker sober. Come on, man. That stuff that's coming out of his mouth. He's not making it up. Like, it's just like, oh man, I said the hidden stuff out loud. I said the quiet thing out loud.

And now I got, oh, did I really say that? Oh, damn. And you're the franchise. So, you know, end of the day, Joe, you're, you got Jamar Chase, you got Hickin, so you have some good, you have some good, they got you pieces there on the offensive side of the ball. But when you're scoring 40 and you're losing and your defense keeps giving up all those points, that's not a good feeling. So, I mean, I'm with Joe Burrow. He comes to the Pittsburgh Steelers. That'd be far.

McCarthy, get some wide receivers. defense I mean we could I mean we can bring one of them you know what I see you're trying to take you're trying to just swap

swat that's crazy I'm trying I'm trying to no man no no no I'm trying to win a Super Bowl that's the

that's the way we get we get Burrow we don't even need we don't need anybody else what's the goal the goal you heard what McCarthy

said you heard what he said he said he bring that seventh Lombard down the street from where he's starting at front of his house

in front of his old crib this is this is this is how supposed to go. Everything life it happens for a reason and it's a reason that he was unhappy then. It was a reason that we ended up getting

McCarthy. It's a reason that I'm just seeing it's just connecting to me. You know what I'm saying? After that McCarthy interview he got to show me something because I'm bought in. I'm bought in.

I told you Joe. At first I ain't going to lie. I was tripping, buddy. Yeah, you were. I'm back, I'm back, listen. You know who else stripping? Who? Your boy, Roger Goodell.

What is Goodell talking about? He said that, uh, referees did a, what was that word? Uh, what did he say it was a, what? He said he was amazed at how good the officials are. That's what he told him before. He was amazed at how good. I would say, how do you feel about that? that Devo, you're not amazed by how the referees are, how the referees have been performing?

He said how good. How good. But he also said, you know, we're going to ask some AI to it so we can get rid of the, you know, the obvious errors, you know. The obvious heirs, the egregious errors. Yeah. You don't need AI to do that. We all seen it. All you had to do was damn correct.

Yes. You could call from the office any other time, you know. Yes. Why couldn't you do it then? I don't know. I think the referees, though, bro. they need to be able to, they should do press conferences, and they should be held accountable after the games.

The same way we sit there and do that, they got to be able to fix up. Hey, yeah. Like, what kind of fucking call was that, brother? Did you not see that, John, when you were looking at your eyes on it? NFL, fans, the fans. Yeah. Y'all say y'all want that, that the rest have to do interviews.

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or wherever you get your podcasts. Use after each game, an account for their cause, they will do it. Because we account for our plays. Yeah, do it. I'm trying to tell y'all. Just do it. And I do like the fact, too, with the NFL, with that replay thing, how sometimes they just send it to the,

send it to the office and then they come back. I like the way it's going a lot faster. That helped us out because you sitting there on the side looking at the review. We know five minutes ago, we've seen the first replay two feet in. Say two feet in and then we're good to go. So I like the way they made it go a little bit faster with that. The AI with the ball placements. It's an inch and a half short.

That I don't know about that. Yeah, I don't. Because I can't tell like when I don't know. I think, well, see, you're going off of where they placed the ball, not that it was actually down there. So you're still going off the judgment of the ref Oh, yes, yes, yeah, yeah, you're right. So you can't switch that part,

but where the ball is, where the ball is. The measurement is the measurement. It is what it is. You can't get away from that. But if I'm Roger, I'm saying the same thing. If I'm Roger, I'm saying the, what? You're protecting the shield at all costs. If they're doing terrible, he's not going to come out there.

Everybody's, oh, man, these ruffs are doing their ass. No. He's going to come out there and be like, these reps are amazing. What are we talking about here? You know, it's human error. You know, everybody makes mistakes. We're going to try to fix that. But no, he's definitely not going to come out there and be,

because people already thinking that the games are rigged, the refs is out there just setting stuff up, terrible calls. He got a palet in. Hey, that's what the fans out here thinking when they see them checky goals. I can't hear it, though. I can't hear it, though. This is what I'm going to say. What you go say?

I'm protecting the shield. Mm-hmm. Don't rise to get like 40, 50 a year? Brother, at least. I'm protecting my pockets. Listen. One and a half per team. I would turn.

32 teams. Look like 60 million. I'll tell you right now. 670 million. 6.7 million. I might. They say, hey, we need you to be the next commission. We're going to give you 50 a year.

I might. I might have to turn my back. Turn your back where? On the NFLPA. Oh, for sure. Depot. Depot. I knew you.

it's like that. Man, for the 50. I'm going to tell you, I'm going to tell you, I'm going to go, and I'm going to do it, I'm going to do it the right way. I'm going to fly that plane that Roger gets, and now that that's 60 million. I'm going to use it so well. I'm going to help out the communities, everything. Everybody's going to be good, for sure. And I'm going to help out the NFLPA.

I'm going to do it the right way. I'm going to be the commissioner that's looking out for the players. And I'm looking, but, no, y'all might get five. You go get five. After I get my 50. I'm going to be there for one year, for sure. You go get five, bro. No.

I'm going to tell you, I would do it the right way, Debo. Because end of the day, you got to look out for the owners. Yes. How can't you? Roger Goodell is at the end of the day. He is doing a good job. Because for the NFL. And for the players.

Brother, brother, brother, do you see the cap keep going up? It's not like it's another. It's 300 million. The cap do keep going up. If you can move over to pay a quarterback now, 70 million. The highest paid corner is 35. million. Receivers making $40 million. Like when you're in those

NFLPA meetings and all the other stuff, the bargaining agreements, all that, I mean, Joe, how much money get scraped off the top before they do the split? I understand what you're saying. I heard it was building. He can do... They say, hey, let us pull these two, three off,

and then we go split this. You can, we can still get more of the cake. We can definitely still get more of the pie. But you cannot tell me that, like, the way that it's increasing and the way that everybody's money keeps going up that he's not doing a good job because the owners he's doing a good job for him making them bread

but you got to look at these dude how many unions you know signed 10 year deal? I don't. Us, that's it. Because we foolish enough as the NFLPA leadership, they out of their mind, they over there working. Everybody, it seemed like everybody working to try and get a job over there.

In the NFL? In NFL. NFLPA, they seem like they're working to try and get a job at the NFL. You see a couple guys that switched over. All of a sudden, it was NFLPA. Now they hear over here, vice this, president, that, all that other stuff. Right, come on, man. I feel you.

I feel you. They can definitely do better. They can do better. But we can't say that doing a good job. Because his job is, as the commissioner, he works for the owners, obviously. But for the players, too, I'm looking at that money keep going up. And I know that we can get more. they chipping stuff off the top.

You know what I'm saying? They're getting more than their share. But I'm looking at the owner. You do like this right here. You know, you do a King Colby. You do like this, move this here, why you're doing all this here so you can grab him. That's what they're doing to us.

Y'all, you see, you're already there. Look, Joe. Look here, Joe. Don't you see this? Let me get out of that money right there. But only reason why I'm with you, I'm with you. But I just looking at when I was in the league, it was 13 and a half was the highest paid coin.

and now is 30. And that was seven years, eight years ago. So, like, you... When you was first in the league, Joe? No, when I signed my contract in 2017, highest paid corner in the league was $14 million a year in 17. Okay. And, no, that was in 14, 14, 14 to 15.

The highest paid was me, Sherman, and Pat. 10 years ago, everything's supposed to double. Well, it was 14, so now it's 30, so it would double. Okay. double. I take that then. You know? I take that. That's a night 30 ball in the corner, man. Receive is making 40. Quarterback, 60. In 2010, that's 16.

Yeah. Like, that's just, I mean, I understand. It's not, it's not, it's not like, oh, you go get all that. I can cut you. I feel you with the, righting the contracts of being able to get the money, getting guaranteed, Brett. All of these deals are basically, if you sign a five, four-year deal, it's two with the guarantee. So you sign a four-year deal. So you sign a four-fee. for 40 with 20 guaranteed It depends. How much you get guaranteed up front?

I know. And it may stretch it to three because if they They would try to do that. For sure. Kill them on the cap number. Yeah. It's always just so many different ways to manipulate that drug, though. If you got good players, I'm putting that joint to the signing bonus.

Yeah, but you still at some point, you got to cut that down. So if I say, all right, I'm going to give you, I'm going to give you a 30 million on a signed-a-bonds. I'll give you a three-year deal. Well, that sign-a-bonus is cut over those three years. now your salary is another 15, 20, like, now you got to break that down. We'll get to the contracts. We'll get to the contract because that's what I love.

I'm sports track. Dead ass. I'm sports track. You could be a GM. You could be the money man at least. I'm trying to tell you. I know the numbers and I know about the moving around, all of that. I love it.

I love it. So that's why I know with contracts and what we think people going to get. I'm trying to tell you, Debo, I'm one of the ones with that because I love it. love numbers. I love contracts. I love the way that should works. Tell me about D.K., you look at it? Yes. And they, they, they, they could have got away. They could have got out Scott Free for that, for that extra $30 million. But they being good Samaritans, you know what I'm saying, didn't do it. So they got another one year for that 30, then they guaranteed it. So that's, that's on, that's on. What's after, what's after that?

What's after that year then? I got to go, I got to go look back up the contract, but I did look at that. I did look at it. But I just know after this season, if I were the Steelers, I would have got, I would have had to let him go, brother. You're talking to answer my wife phone call. Hey, what's up? See, that's crazy. Man, got my wife on the line. Hey, how you doing? Baby, don't.

That's Debo. We all on the show. We're on the show. Yeah. Yep, we live. We live on air. He's talking to my wife. Yeah, this is, this is wife.

Hold on. Hold on. Here you go. I'll let you talk to him. Hold on. This man. Hey, babe. Hello.

You gotta put it to your ears, Joe I couldn't hear him Hello Hey, baby Yeah Don't want What's up So

I'm literally on the show He's on the show right now Hey look at me He gotta explain His self You know, he got You know what I'm trying To talk low

And all that Hey He make like hey No When I say When I say go Let's go He was going

He's telling me All this boss stuff You know But right now I love you I love you too I love you too I love you

I call you back I'm proud I'm so sorry I ain't called you last God I'm scared. You know? You was going to get whipped, huh?

I almost got a spanking. Yeah. Uh-huh. No, she was just making sure everything was good. Everything's good at the house. That's okay. Everything's good at the house. You know, kids, kids got school.

Two-hour delay. It's snowing back at the crib. Got to make sure everything's everything's everything. It's snowing to V? It's still icy. Icey. It's still icy. Like your neck.

Iceing entertainment. Like my teeth. Yeah. Yeah. You can't hide that money. Come on, man. You know, man, the league has been good to me. I can't carry the green.

on me, so I'm just go put it all in all on my body. No, no, no. You know, where the chain I had on that? You know, at the game, where that one at that? I wanted to wear some ice, too. Next episode, I'm going to bring you a chain to. Yeah. We're going to be both chained up.

Be chained up. Let me get a nine tooth on that thing, too. You know what I'm saying? I don't know about this. That's going to cost me. You know what I'm saying? No, you can wear my two three. You can borrow my two.

I'm going to print it off. I'm going to print it off. I'm going to get a paper nine, too, hang it on that thing. No, no, no, no. We're not going like that. Painted silver. A silver 9-2? Platinum.

Platinum. I'm a painted platinum. It's platinum. Yeah, I'm just going to change my number. 23. Yeah. When y'all hear it, y'all going to know it. You're going to know it's you.

They're going to know it's me. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Brought. I ain't going to lie to you, though, Debo. It's our first time out here in the radio. Radio. Radio Ro.

Good old Radio Row. seeing a lot of people. I'm a good people watcher, too. I know you, you just be singularly focused, and I'm going to let you know when people are walking by. I see my man Terrell Davis. You're looking because you actually scanning the area because you was nervous.

That's the difference. They don't check us for bombs. They don't check us for guns. They don't send dogs everywhere. I'm not worried about anybody in here running up on me with nothing but their hands. We can handle that. See, there we go.

You're talking about physical contact. I'm just saying there's a lot of, there's a lot, I'm a, I'm a, I'm a, I'm a fan of the game. Are you a fan of the game? I'm a fan of the game. You're a fan of the game. You're looking for like, I'm trying to, I got work to do. This is work. Okay.

No, for sure, for sure, for sure. You up here looking at everything else. And I'm on the phone with my wife. You're on the phone. You see that? That's why I keep this right here. So when my kids call, I do a quick hit. They hear it.

Oh, that on the show, you're on the show. And then I say, yeah, uh-huh, yeah. She's for the show. She got to do better. Yeah. Oh. She got to do better. You heard what he just said.

Sarah, he said you got to do that. She didn't even know. She didn't even know I was in the show. Wow. I'm just joking. You got to do. You heard, no, it ain't too late. It's too late.

It's too late now. Ah. That's live. Oh, man. If I could just see the chat now, Lord, I will know what they're saying. Boy, I want to know what they're saying right there. Oh, my God. You see if I can pull up.

No, no, no, no, no, no. Hey, y'all, listen. I'm sorry, baby. I was going on. I was just, you know, I just got out of character. He wasn't lying. He was feeling itself. He'd been out here.

He'd been filling his cell. Like, he went over a bridge. He'd conquered his fear. He got back. He walking crazy, talking crazy. I mean. I'm not a big. I'm definitely, definitely afraid of heights for sure.

Heights is a fear of mine. But, uh, conquered it. And I love. And what about? Yes, he is in big trouble. No. No. Mm-hmm.

Yes. I see it right now. I'm going to make it up for it. I'm going to make it up when I get back. Oh. Something Louis. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. Something that really knows.

I'm thoughtful with it. Awful? Yeah, I'm handwritten letters. Handwritten letters, you know. Then we're going to go out. Yeah, you go out. Do a little hair, nails, toes. Then we're going to do the spa.

You go do them. yourself? No. She says she wanted a foot massage. Somebody said you need to massage her feet. I do that every day. I do that on the regular. So you need to massage her feet. I do it on the regular. My old lady, she gets a back massage and a foot massage every day. Okay. She literally just throw her a little back over to me. Massage my back. Throw a little foot over to me. Massage my foot. Oh. But I do that because I love her. That's good. I love her. That's good. Yes. Yes. That's what you should be doing.

That for sure. I mean, 12 years. That's my old lady, man. Twelve years? Twelve years. Twelve years of marriage, bro. Been together for 15 years, been married for 12. That's sound like your dad.

Your dad, come on. That's something. Man, come on. They, they're 37 years. Married 19 years old. And tell them how old you. Yes. Got married at 19.

19. 19. 19. Yes. Five boys. Five of them. Five of them. Me.

Josh, Jordan, Jacob, Jonathan. All J's. All J's. All Bibles. All of them. Joseph, Joshua, Jordan, Jacob, Jonathan. Yes. Bang, bang, bang, bang, bang.

Shut, wild out. Back to back to back to that. Back to back to back. Back to back. Back to back. My mom is violent. Oh, for real. Because she wanted a girl.

She wanted a girl. That's why they kept happening. He gave up. Boy, boy. Now, shot, I want a girl. Boy, I want a girl. Boy, I want a girl. Boy, I want a girl.

Boy. Girl dog. All right. Let me go get this dog. Let me go get this dog. I'm going to have six little rush grats running around this house, driving my mom crazy.

Yeah. Yeah. Yep, she was, we used to get out, but that was when none of that gentle parenting. But it was, we never just got, and the thing was this, I never got spank for no reason. I never got spank for no reason.

I wouldn't just walking inside the house and just getting smacked beside the head. I'd have got locked up. No, my parents. My parents were taken from my children, but it's not like, when I look, oh, yep, yeah. Intenture court, bro.

I'm not looking at it like And it wasn't It was much needed It was what I feel like I sound crazy when I say that Listen they don't understand Because You can't let the child abuse

I'm trying to tell you all this You can't let the children You can't let the children One of the asylum If she didn't hit me Nine times With that extension court I know it was nine times

It was only nine You count it I counted She hit me two times She hit me two times And she hit me another two times And I couldn't keep still Ah

Jumping up out of that thing Wow And you can't, you know, you can't move around. Hold on. Let that ass back down. She said, said on the last two, if you keep still for three, I might let you up. Oh, wow.

You talk. Oh, God. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Hey, bro. It wasn't for no reason. It wasn't for no reason. That's what happened.

That's what happened. That's what happened. So the time before that, I was like, I was like 14. Or I was 13. Last time I took a woman with 14, though. Right. So she goes, she whooped me with the belt. All my sisters and brothers are downstairs, right?

Yes. So she whipped me with the belt. You know how they whip me in the syllable. I told you, they talk to you. They're talking to you. They're talking to you. So I'm blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. As soon as you get done, I run downstairs.

It hurt? See? I ain't got a tear. She said, don't worry about that. I got something for your asses. You're tripping. You're tripping. I thought I was manned up.

I ain't know about the escalation. You. You are like my brother I'm crying soon as I think I'm about to get a weapon I'm instantly crying Ah

No she's gonna tell you I don't want to hear them tears right now You weren't crying when you was doing what you did I know I know but I'm not faking that hard stuff This is not the time to be hard Because that's how you're going to get escalated on I didn't know the escalation That's how you're going to get flipped on

I didn't know the escalation Oh But you know what hurt me the most I was 16 I got caught up I'm like, all right, then I'm going to have to go on here and take this stenture cord. I ain't tripping. Let's go.

Get to the house. Da-da-da-da-da. You're on punishment. And that mother car ain't going nowhere. Hmm? What's that? What that mean? That mean you go to school and back home.

And you don't go nowhere else. What about what I want to go soon? No. It's punishment. You ain't. allowed to go nowhere. I said, hey, let me get that ass with me. She said, uh-uh, uh-uh. Uh-uh. No, yeah, because now she knows, you don't care about that. It's what you're going to hurt your film. I was like, let me get that whip.

Yes. Uh-uh. No. No. No. No. Yeah, so that was the last time, 16. I ever got caught. I was getting better. I was a smooth criminal. See, depot. Yeah. I wasn't doing too much of nothing when I was a kid. My dad was on our ass. So hard. I started working out in the seventh grade. Me and my dad and my brother. So gym, gym, gym, gym, workout, workout. Was no real clubbing. Was no going out like that in high school.

So me and my dad, my dad really got me and my brother. I heard some stories about from college. I'll just say that. When I got to college, I'm not going to lie. We was that step gator days. With a good old person, good old, yeah, it was an amazing time. Yeah, had a blast. Amazing time.

Yeah, we was out there. That was before. That was no Twitter, no Instagram. We had my roommate with Cam Newton. We had Percy out there, Chris Rainey, Dunlop. Squad. Balling. Living.

No. Living. Living. Yeah. That was no. A little time in Cincinnati. Yeah. You know what I'm saying?

I ain't going to say that. Pre-N-I-L. Yeah. We couldn't even get a free haircut out there legally. But you know how that was. Yeah. So crazy, bro. So crazy.

I ain't had none of that. I went to Kent State. You know what I'm saying? I feel bad, yeah. Ah, yeah. Good old Kent State. Listen, it was a drinking school with a football problem, they said. They said it was a drinking school with football problem.

Did you play with Cribs, right? Yeah, he was my quarterback. Okay, yeah, yeah. He's my quarterback. I just know Cribs went there, you went there, and Julian Edelman went there? Gates went there, but he played basketball. Oh. Yeah.

He didn't play football there at all? Nope. He didn't play football at all. And then he went to the Hall of Fame. That's best tight in. That's crazy. Yep. Yeah, for sure.

So I'm going to say, who's your favorite, who's your favorite teammate in college? Oh, Sean Olmsted. Sean Ompstead, okay. We're still cool today, yeah. Oh, that's my, that's my kids, that's my kids' got five. Oh, man. Yeah. Damn, where he live?

Ohio. Ohio? Okay. Yeah. My first roommate out there was Cam Newton when I first got to Florida. So that's my dog. Him and Major Wright play safety for the Bears. Okay.

Yeah, good dude. Real good dudes. What about pro? Pro? Cleveland. Cleveland? I'm going to have to go with, man. Probably my boy, T.J. Ward, safety.

Went to Oregon. We got drafted together in 2010. He was third-round pick. Yeah, that's my good man. I think he out here, too. So I'm probably link up with him. him out here. Okay.

Good. He left from, he left from, damn, I wish they would have resigned my man when we was in Cleveland. He ended up going to Denver won the Super Bowl.

So he got him a ring. Yeah. Always. He didn't, he wasn't upset about that. He wasn't upset at all. No. He was mad, though,

because this is what, because he wanted to resign, because that's when we was going to be able to build something. That's what we messed up. We wasn't going to be able to build. We was. We was so fire.

Y'all can't build nothing. And then we just couldn't, we just didn't retain the task. We just started getting rid of people. It was crazy. Josh Bia, man, we... Bust the screen, me, T.J. Ward.

Deshawn Gibson. The Browns, my Browns, people know these guys. I understand what you're saying, but, you know, y'all can't... Y'all can get pieces, but y'all can't put it all together. You don't know how to, man. Y'all been doing this forever, man.

Man, listen. All I know is, Todd Munkin coming over here, if we can make the offense look good, We haven't had never, like, we never just score. We never score points. We never just being out there blowing people out. Defense always fighting for our life.

So we keep the same defense and get some points. Get some white house. Get a quarterback throwing a fade ball. What you're trying to say? You're trying to say you ain't got a quarterback to throw a fable? No, I'm not saying. We got a quarterback now. We got your door, but we need to give him some people that he can throw the ball to.

Yep. We got picks. We got money. You ain't got nobody to go get that thing. Come on, man. I like our receivers. I like, I like Jerry Judy. Right?

Like that's... I don't love. Okay. But at the same time, I think he could go hoop again, but he could still be like our two. We need enough. We need like a... Somebody had that one.

That X. You need that one. Hey, man, look. Go over there. Go over there. And nobody over there. Not the one, A, B. No.

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And he's going to go get that. Hey. We need a third to ten. Run a dig, deep dig. Catch it over his head. It might get noisy in there. Don't fucking shrivel up. Don't, don't shorten the arm.

Don't get little armed in here. No, I need you to extend, expose yourself. Expose yourself for the 35-0. They don't do that no more. I'm telling you. I know, I know. I ain't a lie. If I was receiving, nowadays, man, I come across that middle with no fear.

No fear. No fear. Because if you do get smacked, you're going to get a flag. You're going to get a flag. You gotta go across there reckless. I'm gonna tell you right now though. Unless, like if you're thinking, like, and you'll get a chance to like go across the middle

and you don't want to get fine. Only place you can go is low. That's like way more dangerous to me than hit somebody high. I'd rather you put me to sleep right now than catch my knee and have me out. That's what the receivers are saying. They rather get hit up top. Because if you take their lower lit,

ACLs, all that, it's a rap. You could wake up, like, from a little, oh, man, you can knock me out real quick. Yeah. BOW! Oh, I'm out for the season. Oh, God. Like, man, my knees shattered.

Yeah. Take a little headshot. That could be all the way, like, career changing. Like, you may not come back from that the same as you were before. Yeah. I don't think they totally understand that. But they were trying to make the game safer, but in turn, I think they made it a little more dangerous.

a lot more dangerous, actually, in situations when it comes down. Matter of fact, dude, I saw a little high school play, dude, where the quarterback, he threw it, like, right over the top. The safety came down and blowed on him, and, like, the bottom of his helmet caught it. You know, it was a penalty, but they're like, oh, it's a, you know, it's a penalty, he can't do that.

And I'm like, I commented on there. I'm like, yo, if he had came in there to hit that boy low, he would have hit him just as his left leg was going down, ran through all that. Then it was still called it dirty. Yeah. Yes, for sure, for sure. Exactly.

So like you can't win. As a defensive player, you can't win. TD. To real. Come on up in here, baby. TD. What's up, boss, man? How are you doing?

Looking good, baby. Definitely looking good. Yo, what are you living? I just moved from L.A. I'm back in Virginia. North of Virginia. I thought that's where I saw you there. Yes, sir.

Where are you at? I'm back in Denver, man. Okay. I was in L.A. for a minute. I'm back in Denver now. What part of L.A. was you in? We were in Tarzana, Encino area. You know, we did all that Calabasasas area.

Yes, sir. That's why I was at. It was in Encino. You still golfing? Am I golfing? Come on. Are you guys? I'm going to be golfing until I die.

I feel it. Look here, man. We get the honor right now of having Terrell Davis join us two-time Super Bowl champ Hall of Famer That's it Huh

Two time That's it I'm a little disappointed At myself You're a little disappointed I'm not buddy I am not You got two

D-boy you got two Yeah but I lost two You lost two I lost two So I asked I asked that question the other day I said okay What would you rather

Have done? Never made it That's what I'm saying Have gone to four When two Or go to two and win to. Ooh.

I don't know. You got there, though. I got it. Ooh, see, his ego talking right there, too. So a little bit of pride. I mean, LeBron go to him and lose months. Then they still give it to him, so I'm a goal. Oh, you want to go?

I went to two. I am. I love having a feeling of saying, man, I don't know what it feels like to lose a Super Bowl. Respect that. You know. Respect that. I don't know what that feels like. I'll say this.

I guess you'll never know. It ain't as bad as you think it is. What? What? How can you recover? How can you walk away from that game? So how I can walk away from that game is that once I go back and I look at that game and I look at every situation and the circumstance I was in that game

and I know it was nothing I could have did to do better to make that play, to have an effect on that game on that. Like, I'm like, did everything I could. And it just, it wasn't good enough. Okay. It wasn't like, all right, damn, if I just did this different here, if I just did that different there, I'm like, but it wasn't. Like, I didn't have, I didn't have that.

Okay, okay, all right, all right. I wish I could be in that conversation, guys. I know, Joe, I was going to ask you, buddy. You know? You know. I said, I said, he ain't been in either one. Any of it. So you never, what was the furthest you've gotten, or closest you've gotten?

or closest you got. We had a first round by with the Steelers. So the second round. So the divisional round? Yeah. That's it. Yes. But won the national championship, though, in college.

So I'll take that one. Yeah, take the national championship. I ain't even have a winning season, so I ain't triven, but I got two to bowl. You think, when you think winning a national championship is bigger than winning the Super Bowl? No, not at all. No, he just saying, he got something. I'm just trying to get, I'm just trying to get in the championship. Oh, you just want to get.

You just want to get in the club. Oh, I got you. You know. Okay. They're trying to bring this off. So how would you have to go to four Super Bowls and win or just two? And I'm like, I ain't been. Yeah.

Oh, I got it. I guess I went out of the championship. Did get a little Natty. You did get a daddy. What's your index? Right now, my 9.1. That's index. So my handicap is probably.

It depends on the course. So like 11. Right. Depend of what you play. That's that. That's that golf talk. I swear you lost me. That's that.

I noticed what I said. I said, what is the index? I know. Debo don't know nothing about that. I'm an 11-2. It's like your cap of how many strokes you get in golf to let you be able to play. It makes the even, makes the playing field very, very even. Levels of playing field.

So you can go out there and bet with people because he's a 9, I'm an 11. So how do I find out what that is? You need to go get a, you got to go play a couple of, you got to play a lot of rounds first to get to establish that. I can't last when I. You got to play like 20 rounds. And then you need a gin number. So you got to get in the system. Yep, yep, yep, yep.

I love that. Then they tell you. I blew my triset trying to swing the golf club. How did it? My dealt, sorry, my dealt. He's too slow. So you have, you're doing something. I'm doing something drastically wrong.

You should not be blowing anything out swinging the golf club. You ain't supposed to try and hit that thing, like Barry bombs? No, you got to take all your muscles out. Like I had to learn how to just. take the muscles out. All you doing is turning. So your upper body just turns and then turn back through it.

The arms are just attached to your upper body. Your arms don't really do anything but just kind of follow. And I ain't a golf coach, but I had to learn that because I was like trying to muscle the heck out of a golf club. And the ball wasn't going anywhere.

I couldn't hit it. When I learned just to turn and turn back through and take my arms out of the swing, then you'll see what happens. It's like, man, this is incredible. Yeah, I got a question. Who do you like in the Super Bowl?

I'm rooting for Seattle. You're rooting for Seattle? You're rooting for Seattle or who do you think it's going to win? I'm rooting for Seattle. So who do you think it's going to win? I think Seattle will. But, man, any time you're like, it's going to be a game, man. It's a Super Bowl.

It's anything can happen. Anything can happen. Yeah. It is a Super Bowl. Now, I understand it, when I played my first Super Bowl, we were 13, I think 13 or 12-point underdogs against the Green Bay Packers. And I hadn't watched enough of these teams this year

to be able to match them up and say who would win. But it appears that Seattle seemed to have it going on both sides of the ball. And from what my memory recalls that, I remember looking at New England throughout the year, And, you know, they've had a decent, I think they had the same kind of, you know, the schedule wasn't set up. Yeah. Where they had a struggle a whole lot.

But it don't matter. Everybody's on full scholarship. So you're playing pros out there, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. So that's why, I mean, I don't know. I don't know. Again, I just go back to who I'm, who I want to win.

Mm-hmm. And that's Seattle. I want to Seattle. I want to, I don't want another AFC team to win. Yeah. Unless it's Denver. I feel like. I think Seattle, too.

I think the biggest thing for me is Sam Darnold and Drake May. Just to see him on if Sam, I think if Sam could make those plays like he did against the Rams last week, I think they'll be able to win it for sure because their defense is unbelievable Walker. And is Charbonnet going to be back? I don't think, no, I don't think so. I think Kenneth is on his own.

So he's going to have to tote a lot more. But Sam Darnal, man, that's an interesting. That's a great story. Tell you. That's a great story. And it's probably the roadmap for a lot of young quarterbacks coming in is you're not going to come in and have a lot of success. For the most part, your first couple of years,

you've got to figure this thing out through playing with different teams, developing, because we all know that these young quarterbacks, they're not being developed before. They're asked to come in and play day one. When I remember, you know, when I played, it was quarterbacks came in and they had a chance to sit there and watch. I don't care if you, what round you were drafted. Yeah, yeah, they give some time to learn.

learn, you know, be able to learn from a pro, from a veteran, you know, and then be able to make your mistakes where you're not making mistakes on the expense of the team. Yes. Right? So you're making your mistakes like coming in after the team is either being blown out or blowing somebody out. Now you're getting some reps in there. Yeah, that's not going to hurt. It's not going to hurt the team. Yeah. But you're getting valuable reps there. Mm-hmm. Hey, I got a question for you. I got answers for you. All right. Now the other t.com, Tell me what that is, the disorder, the whole... Yeah, so the other TD is, you know, I'm here to raise awareness, man.

And have you heard of Tart of Dyskinesia? No, I have. Never heard it. So Tart of Dyskinesia is a chronic movement disorder, and it's caused by taking prescription or certain prescription mental health medications. Okay. and either like an antipsychotic or antidepressant. And this could cause, you know, repetitive or uncontrollable movements in your face,

your hands, your feet, or your torso. Wow. Yeah. And so, although I don't have TD, man, I'm a huge health advocate. And so I want to use this platform to bring awareness to people out there who may be experiencing some of these symptoms and don't know what to do. Damn. Right.

So if you're taking these prescription mental health medication, and you're experiencing those symptoms, please go to the othertd.com so you can get the help that you need. Is there a test or any type of process to figure out if the medication that you're using, is there somewhere they could go to actually look and see? Well, again, I would advise you to go check it out at the othertD.com or go see your health care provider. They can give you more information about that. Okay. Okay.

And how long have you been involved with that? I've been involved for about three months. And again, I, you know, I've struggled with my own mental health and chronic issues. So the reason I'm using this platform to speak out is because one of the, you know, I guess treatment options for me was to be taking medication. And so I was like, wow, this is big. Like, you know, that could be me out there not knowing what's happening, experiencing those symptoms of, you know, having your face, your hands, your feet, having these uncontrollable movements and dealing with that issue. You know, like, how scary is that, right? And you don't know what's happening to your body,

and you don't know what's going on. So for me to bring this up to let people know and be aware of this, man, it's huge for me just to be able to do that. Because, again, if no one, if you're experiencing something by yourself and you're dealing with that issue by yourself, man, how scary is that, right? Yes, definitely. I really appreciate that because if you don't know, if you don't know.

You don't know. You know, and then, like, people just being up to awareness or someone like, man, I'm feeling funny or something like that. What's going on? It's just a really good thing, man, because that stuff is scared. And one and four people who take those prescription mental health medications are experiencing some type of, you know,

or experiencing those effects. So when that happens, is there a medication that you take to counter that? Or is it? Again, I'm not the doctor. Again, I would advise anybody who have questions about that to go visit the other TD.com. They'll have all the answers that you need there. Any questions you may have to ask?

And then the second thing would be call your health care provider and tell them what's happening. Okay. That's the othertd.com. Othertd.com. Yes. Show her. Please. Go there, check it out if you're having any issues of the nature he's talking of,

and you're on some form of mental psychotic type medication. That may be a cause of it. And here's where you can go to get the information. The othertd.com. Othertodot.com. I'm TD, but, you know, not my TD, the other TD. The other TD. Touchdown.

Touchdown Tad. Touchdown Tad. For show, for show. Look here, man. We want to thank you for coming on here with us. No problem, man. Is this the night? So we got the night cat?

We got the NICAT. Everything is under the same one. Brother. So you guys, all right, okay? La Familia. A cum. What are you? Glammer?

Yes. Yes. Yes. You know what I'm saying? I need to get my show up here, too, by the way. Yes, TD. We got to figure out some show to slap right in between all these different lovable over there. All right.

I am available. I am a free agent. Available. I am available. Ready to go. Ready to go. I heard what he said. There we go.

Say, say media. Y'all heard what he said. Y'all heard, TD. Ready, available. Offense. We got defense here. We need some offense. Yeah.

I like that. Yes. Oh, listen. Hey, man, you still tired from that run, that 99? Oh, wow. You're a second run. No, it's Super Bowl. There's moments.

I ain't a lie. I'm not tired from me. I was. You were a gas. You were a gas. You were a gas. I was a little gas. I would have caught you, big, dog.

I ain't go lie. For sure. I would have caught you, though. Listen. I'd have been on you. They couldn't. They couldn't. They couldn't.

I had everybody blocking. I had two and three blocks. I don't care. I'd have been on you. I'm trying to take. It's a good thing you were not. out there then. The great thing.

The great thing about it is that you finished the deal. We finished the deal, man. No, I'm sorry. On that run, because a great run like that deserves to be paid off. Yes. With the score. If you had went to one. If you were the one yard lot, I'd have been like, oh, that's true.

All that's nothing. All that's nothing. They wouldn't even remember them. Oh, right. They wouldn't even, my name. We wouldn't be playing that anymore. No. They wouldn't be.

I'd have been like Achilles. They wouldn't, they wouldn't remember the name. Yeah. I don't remember it. But now I didn't remember it. That was just a great bond. Yeah, yeah. You're so crazy.

And I saw some athleticism. I saw some nimbleness. Because you was having to jump over. You had to have to hurt a phone. Listen, I'm trying to tick T.D. Listen, man, I wasn't running back. Listen, I could have went either way out of college now. Okay.

Now, listen, I had it, I had it going either way. Nebraska wanted me for the running back, you know what I'm saying? Old State wanted me for the running back. That's when they had Lawrence Phillips and Eddie George over there in Old State. Like, they wanted me to come. something there. But it was like Michigan State, and then it was a Notre Dame. They wanted me for like linebacker. Like, I could have went anywhere, but I kind of messed that up. But I ended up at Kent State, okay?

All that being said, I went to Kent State. All that being said, I kind of, you know, when you face it six months at the end of the same year, you know. Yeah. Yeah. Kind of everybody, everybody's kind of run away, y'all. It sounds good. So yeah, you know, like, I'm going to have to let you see my high school stats, you know what I'm saying. But you play running back in high school? Yeah. I play running back and live back. So I always tell people, I said, man, you see some of the greatest football players have running back background.

Yes. Yes. Background. Yeah. Right? Yeah, for sure. I mean, a lot of, so if I were to do it again growing up, I would have transitioned to like a rush end. You know, I told you.

It don't matter. So I'm, boy, I'm telling you. How tall was Dwight Frini? How tall is Dwight Frini? He's taller than me. He's like 6-1, 6-12. Yeah, yeah, yeah. How tall are you, Deboz?

Six foot. If you had said five times, I think it's five to five. I think it might be 511. No, I wasn't. I was a little taller than that before my back surgery. I was like six, I was like six in one. It don't matter. It don't matter.

I would have been a straight killer on the end. What was your measurements? My arm? Yeah. Well, the problem, I don't have long arms. Okay. They'd have been locking me out. I feel like I got the arm now. I feel like I got the arm.

They'll be locking me up as soon as I go out there. Get up. Sit out. Battee, we want to say thank you so much, my boss, for coming out here, man. Really appreciate it. Anytime. Anytime. Anytime.

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