Nightcap - Super Bowl LX Radio Row Day 1: Part 2 - KevOnStage, Kendrick Bourne, Trey Smith join & more!

Episode Date: February 4, 2026

Join NFL Legends James "Deebo" Harrison and Joe Haden LIVE from San Francisco Radio Row ahead of Super Bowl LX featuring Sam Darnold and the Seattle Seahawks vs. Drake Maye and the New England Patriots. Deebo & Joe are joined by comedian KevOnStage, 49ers WR Kendrick Bourne, Chiefs WR Tyquan Thornton & OL Trey Smith, and much more! (Timestamps may vary based on advertisements.) #Club #NightcapSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Oh, and that boy got that money. That's what I'm talking about. Man, we're here with Mr. Tray Smith. Now, look here, man. God, that boy got that money, two Super Bowls. He got two pro balls, and that boy just, ooh, he got that money for a year. He got almost triple digits. Hey, hey, hey, oh, Lord, Jesus.

I don't even know. You might want to get to this. Yeah, yeah. You need some money. I ain't. I ain't. I ain't. Get into the paper.

Doing good, man. Doing good, doing good, man. It's a pleasure to have you on here. Glad you can take the time to step on here with us. Joseph. Yes, sir. So, my man, Trey, how you doing, brother? Doing good, man.

Pleasure to have you on here, man. So, long story short, you got drafted there, and you've been playing with Patrick Mahomes. Yep. How was it playing with him and with Travis and Andy Reed? How is that relationship? Yeah, man, it's super cool, man. I remember being a rookie getting there for the first time.

And one of the first practice is just watching Mahomes work back then, you know what I mean? as a field general as a dude that makes sure we're all on the same page he's seeing the field man he makes our job a lot easier you know playing with a guy like trav mr energy you know what i mean like turning up and a huddle uh it's cool man i look at them as uh all-time greats you know i mean potential a future hall of famers no doubt in my mind and you know what i mean it's just really it's an honor being able to work with him that's what's what's so look here man how was it playing for andy reed like yeah what's the what's the what's the vibe you'll get from him and

And what's the difference between any other head coach that you've been up, even college compared to him. Yeah, man. Coach Reed, for starters, man, like, it was completely different. Like, I came from University of Tennessee. I had a guy named Jeremy Pruitt. He'll cuss you out. Every day, man.

You know what I'm saying? You do something wrong in a play, man. You show a blade or anything, man. You're getting lit up. Yeah. Well, Coach Reed, man, is different. Like, one, he doesn't cuss. Two, he talks to you and treats you like a man.

At the end of the day, man, he expects a certain standard of excellence. You know what I mean? So he gives you a lot more free range to do things, you know what I mean? But for me, it's like, I tell people like this, man, when I let Coach Reid down or he's, like, disappointed me, it's like, like my grandfather. You know, like that, I figure like that down. I don't want to let him down when I walk into the field,

but he's always even killed, cool, common collected, but very organized and systematic in his approach. And it's been really cool. It's an honor to play for him. Joe, that's what I was telling you about Coach LeBoe. That's what it feels like he don't, he don't, he don't, he don't, he don't cuss nobody. He don't, he don't cuss, period.

Like, you don't know. And when you don't do right and you don't get it done, dude, you feel horrible. Yeah. Like you said. You let somebody down, you know, for sure. It's crazy. I think that's the good coaches too. Like, you know, sometimes you can get coaches that cuss you out and whatever, but the dudes that, the professionalism, like when you're saying, you're a man now.

So I know, I'm trying to do things messed up. So the accountability to being able to get that out. So I respect that with Coach Andy Reed because that's how I felt with Coach T just the same way of like, you're going to treat you like a man. Debo, you don't like when I say that about Coach T because everybody's going to have different relationships,

but I feel you. I feel you for sure. Okay. See? Yeah, okay, man. Look here, man. What's over, Travis? He's retiring.

You're trying to get it to come back? What's going down with you? It's going down, man. I honestly don't know, man. Hey, get away from me. What you doing, man? What are you doing, man? Yes, get it away from me.

Pull it away. Do something with you. No, man, I haven't spoken about it, obviously. You know, it's going to be his decision at the end of the day. You know, I support him whatever he does, man. Trasman, a tremendous teammate, a tremendous friend, you know what I mean? But, you know, I never asked him that. You know, his business is business. I ain't really get right into it.

Man, how long have you been to Lee? Going my sixth season. Yeah, you're good with this answer. I didn't get him out of time. Politically correct. University of Tennessee. Yeah. Yeah, uh-huh.

Yeah. What about that time with Monica Lewinsky? Right. You either confirmed or deny, but. So going under the years, so you're just going to be your, you're going to the year seven? Year six. Year six, okay, okay. So we got Pat, we got Traff.

Who would you looking up to, though, when you first came, like, when you were growing up, did you always watch football? Did you have, like, a certain, like, player that you, like, idolized? Yeah, man. It's a little bit different, man. I didn't ever really want to play in the NFL. Okay. My thing was, like, S&C football.

He was a kid. I'm from Jackson, Tennessee, like, an hour from Memphis down to south, man. And my team was Alabama, which I hate to admit. I'm a Tennessee ball team. You know what I'm gross to say it now. But, man, like, for me, I always, like, watching O-Lignment. I wanted to be a D-Lyman until I went to, like, a football camp.

You're too slow. You're a little too fat. Yeah, you're an athletic enough. I was like, damn, all right. All right, we're going to play O'Lineman. For me, man, I looked at with guys like DJ Fluker, Cyrus Quangio, collegiate players. Then looking into the NFL over time, man, I like guys like Joe Thomas, Trent Williams. Now I started looking at an all-time grace like Larry Allen, you know what I'm saying?

Once I knew I'd be a guard. And then Maurice, obviously like Will Shields, man, like one of the best to ever do it. Mine was a little bit different in terms of just identifying a player. I always thought I'd be like Mark, what's his name? Oh my God, I forgot his name. Mark Engra. Mark Enger. Yeah, I thought I was a bit running back to him.

Damn, that's what's up, though. So when you play Little League, like, was you skill position or have you always been this bigger than everybody? I was always a fat kid, man. Towering over, you know what I mean? But, man, they gave me like one play. It was called Tower of Power. I had an inside zone right at the middle for 80 yards. It's the only time I touched the ball.

Damn. That's a running back, yeah. Say they didn't need to keep giving me the rock. You took an 80 yards. You got some speed then? No, no. No one could bring me down. Don't give me that rock today, either, man.

I don't want it. No. trick plays none of that respect look here man y'all uh y'all hired uh eric b enemy i guess he's the oc now yeah y'all y'all go stay with the same thing you expect any changes what's what's his uh is it going to be what do you think it's going in as far as what y'n't you know yeah uh eb man he's always going to breathe that intensity and that passion man you know what i'm saying and i feel like for him man just when we hit the ground running uh even in o t a's man like it's going to be intense as hell.

You know what I mean? It's going to be one of those things where we're going to get after every single day, man. That's just EB, you know, in terms of stylistic with our offense, I can't really make that determination yet, you know what I mean? But as an old island, man, I love to run the ball. Yeah, I'm going to say. Oh, for sure. You know, for sure.

You know, for pound the rock, man, wear it down a defense, make them earn the right to rush the passenger, you know what I mean? So we're going to see. But I'm really excited to have EB. I love Coach Nagy, you know, what he did for us this year in the past couple years. And I've had EB in past years, too. So really excited to really just get back to work, man. You know what I mean?

You have a bad taste in your mouth from last season. And as a competitor, like, damn, man, I want to be better. Like, I want to make sure I'm better for my team. So, you know, it's really excited to get back to work, man, at the end of the day. For sure. And especially y'all guys, like you said, being able to have so much success and being used to that success. And then when you don't get it, I can see how that feeds that hunger of, like, guys,

you know what I'm saying? We're so used to it. We don't want to get complacent. But end of the day, we know what we got. So I see how that can have, like, drive coming in the way. to next season. Yeah, no doubt, man. No doubt.

Yeah. Anytime you get knocked out of there, though, it always, it always kicks that drive. No, for sure. Listen, this is the crazy thing. So the two Super Bowls that I won, we actually didn't make the playoffs the next year. Yeah. It's crazy. Damn.

It's where. Yeah. It's the league. I ain't over five. Yes. People don't be realized. Oh, my first one was horrible. Yeah.

Horrible. Like, I was year three. Mm-hmm. They got the first one, practice, like special teams, all that, I promise you, I ain't stopped kicking it probably to, like, training camp. T.D.O. You wilder.

That's why. But I was with the, I was with the OJs, though, you know what I'm saying? Hell, though. Hell, though. You got to get right back to it. Now, the second one, I got right back to it, but everybody else ain't get right back to it, though. You know what I'm saying? Like, what's up, boy? How you doing, man? I'll get you get you a podcast over there. We holl at you later. What's up?

That's all right. Yeah. Good, good, good. You're getting a new stadium, right? Yeah, like 2031, I think. 2031? Oh, so you know. Damn.

What are they talking about? They're talking about the stadium like they've been had that in two years. Yeah, no, that joint's going to be a minute. It's going to be far away, yeah. That's good. You're going to get another deal by that joint. Yeah. Yeah, it's time to run that back.

Come on, man. Another. Where do you live during the off seasons, brother? Some usually in Dallas, Bristol area. Okay, okay. Okay. Yeah, man. Yeah, man.

Yeah, man. We appreciate you stopping by, though, man. Yeah, man. Again, Mr. Smith, 6, 3, a bunch of figures. We want to thank you for joining us, man. Appreciate you, man. No doubt. Thank you, brother.

I need water. Big, Ray in the building. All right, man, appreciate you, Trey. Bit, Trey, come out here fresh with the rollies. Drink this? I don't like this. Go, bro. Thought you all was using this as a prop.

And it's still cold. Oh, it's still cold, too. That's that metal container. What? I'm good. Well, well, well. That was a big dude right there, man. I mean, he was a nice size.

Man, he had to put hands on you, D. No, bro. Stop playing with me, right. So I looked at him. I was like, yep, yep. He put hands on you. He put hands on you. You know, you're not.

Like, stop playing. That man might have. No, man might have put some hands on you, Devo on. Check my tape, man. Check my tape, man. Check my record, man. Check my rap sheet, man. Don't let this hype fool you. Don't let this hype fool you. Okay. Don't let this hype for you now.

Because you told me, because I can't believe. Y'all want to know what Debo told me. Look it. This is the most disrespectful thing someone has ever said to me. He told me that I am victim weight. Yes. Victim weight. If you're under 200 pounds, you're victim weight.

I've never heard nobody say them disrespectful like that to me in my life. victim weight is crazy. Under 200. Yeah. You're crying. No. I can't believe you said. No.

What you need to do is I know a lot of people under 200, like I said, and people over 200 that can't bench. Hey, listen, Joe, don't want to change the victim weight. You got to change the victim weight to how much can you bench. If you can't bench 225 times, you're a victim. If you're under 200 pounds and you can still do it, that's not victim weight. So it's going to be What if they say? I can do it, but they can't.

Then they're lying. But how are you going to know if they're lying? I'm going to be walking. Man, there's gyms all over the place. Pull up to the 24-hour fitness now. Right now. All that talking, you talk, yeah. Right now.

Put it on the bench. I'll get you a warm-up. What they say? Yeah, where they say I need a warm-up. I'll get warm up, yeah. I'm not going to just throw you out there. No, get nice and get nice and warm. 135, ripped that a couple of times.

I didn't make that rule up, man. That's what I heard. That's what the streets be talking. I'm good on you. They said anything under 200, that's victim weight. Like, you got a chance to becoming a victim in society. I didn't make that up. I don't.

I do not like being called victim weight. That just makes me feel like less of a man. I'm not calling you. I'm just telling you what the standard is. I'm just walking around lighting the ass. Like, you just walk around and look like somebody just about to beat me up. That's kind of what I feel like what you're saying.

I don't like that at all. It's a possibility. That's what they're trying to say. You got like, you don't understand that, right? I hear what you're saying. I don't approve. Think about it. I don't like it.

We went to eat. Yeah. Went to eat, okay? Yes. Now, if that was you, just you were in there, they might have said, hey, you got to go if you was me. But looking like you, they might have said you got to go.

You know what you told. Okay, team, let me tell you what he talked about then. We go to Maestro's yesterday. I like to dress. I'm going to dress up and wear my stuff and wear my jeans and stuff. Debo, sweatpants hoodie everywhere. He don't care where he's at. He's wearing sweatpants in a hoodie.

So we walk into the Maestro's. I'm looking like, boom, the lady's right there. She's like, oh yeah, I'm like, it's for Joe for five, okay? Boom. She looks back. She sees Debo and everything. She's just like, oh, y'all guys, good. and we're walking to the elevator, and she looked back at me.

I'm right between her. Debo's at the end. She's like, we know we normally have a strict dress code and we don't let in sweatpants, but we're going to accommodate you guys. And I'm like, why the fuck are you talking to me? Go ahead. Go ahead. Tell him he can't come in here with these sweatpants on.

And she just let us walk in and everything was good. She did not even say nothing to Debo. And we get to the table. I'm like, Debo, the lady just came up to me and was like, we normally have a strict guest code, but you guys were going to make sure we accommodate you. I'm like, she was scared to you, Debo. If that was me, they would have sent me at the door.

I wouldn't have been able to make it to the elevator. She's talking to me about him wearing sweatpants. Listen, that was out of... Scary Debo. No, that was... You were intimidated. You were just standing back there, hoodie on looking like it. I didn't, listen, I didn't hear her saying that.

I didn't hear... Because she was whispering to me. Because she was whispering. Okay, but you got to understand something. Like, if she had said that to me, I would have, I would have respected the aid. Hey, we don't normally... I'd have said, thank you very much. I really appreciate that.

That's not what you told me. said. No, I said if they tried to kick me out. Then. It's been a little different. Yes. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Now, we'd have, we'd have There you go. That boy.

Oh, gee. Look at that boy, chain. That boy neck. He's that emmer. Jeweler. Ooh, Lord. I'm gonna pull this up. That's, what's up? That's what I was.

What's up? What's up? What's up, baby? Chiller. What you talking about? Man. What did you? That's what I knew.

I told Debo, I said, Debo, when he come out here, he's going around here. He'd be stepping. He'd be stepping. He'd be stepping. Not a job, bro. When you've been on that fashion, you're dripping right now, Carl. I see you. Yeah, this is the boring blessed right here.

I got some shirts for y'all, too. Yeah, I'm gonna need. They got some ice that coming with you. It might come with you. That's your clothing line. This is my clothing line right here. I got some different shirts, but I might have this exact one for you. Bro and I'm saying.

You fly too. What's the name? Born blessed. Born blessed. Yeah, you know what you've been pushing it. I'm pushing the bucket. I do everything right. Come on.

Come on. Everything right. I'm telling you. I'm telling you. Yeah. Now, yeah, so the brand is all about, you know, your mindset, man. You know, you hear for a purpose. You was born for a reason, but you go through trials.

You figure it out, and you're going to know why you hear. So you got to keep working, keep going. Whatever you go through. When you get there, you're born blessed. You're saying, you know what you have. I love it. You do the born with the born, the name and the blessed. You see what you're cooking.

You cook it. You cook it. Appreciate it, God. Appreciate it. Yes, sir. Devo can't start looking. He can't, he want that chain. That's what I'm telling you.

He didn't go. You see, I got, I just could bring, I just brought one because I'm going to tuck mine in. His name, Debo for real life in the A. Debo. He ain't going to. No, no, no, no. You're solid. You're sorry.

I ain't going to do. I'm saying, man, man. I gave my life to God about about two years ago, man. Come on. Come on, Debo. I love that, man. You know, sometimes, though, he'd be talking to me. I'm looking at it.

on the chain on you. I'm like, I'll be having to talk to myself, you know. How long you've been into the fashion stuff, though, bro? Because that's one thing I'm on that. I've brought with him. I've been pushing it for about five years, bro, and it's been dope, learning a lot. I treated it like football.

You know, you started as like a rookie, not knowing materials, not knowing certain things, how to market, everything. So as I've been growing, I've been getting better, man. So this year, Radio Row, I was more ready, brought bags of merch, you know what I'm saying, to pass it out. No, for sure. Get free promo, just connected, you know what I'm saying? and that's been power.

So it's been fun about five years, man, getting better. That's lovely, bro. That's lovely, love it, love it, love it. Devo's tripping, you know. He can't get his eyes off your ice. Let me tuck it in. Look, it's like born blessed. Come.

But what the man is, it might be here to bless me. No, Debo. He might be here to bless me. I don't know. I ain't. He just coached. Brother, man. Go ahead, Dito.

You got it. Go ahead. Go ahead. Go ahead. Go ahead. I got to say. So we got, how different was the Patriots culture going from Bill Belichick to Jeremyo to Mike Rabel? Man, bro, it was a whole process, bro.

But playing for Bill was incredible. Dibon know a little bit of. I liked it. I didn't know a lie, dude. That's lit. I loved it. I loved it. It's that mindset.

I love, like, hey, this is what it is. A, B is B. Come on. Ain't nobody getting no special treatment. Ain't no sympathy. Ain't no sympathy. Listen, dude, we're out there. I ain't go to the band.

We got a Super Bowl, right? Listen, come on. Talk about it. Plan indoors in Minnesota, right? Yeah. This man got us outside. We got an indoor coach. We got an outdoor.

What are we doing? Let's get prepared. He out there in a bomber jacket and some shorts. Not tripping. Negative 5. Different. It's crazy. So my experience, what it was just amazing.

I learned a lot. But it was tough going from one of the greatest coaches to a first year coach. You know, you see the difference. And so, like, the struggle was real for Mayo. Love him, bro. He held it down for me, gave me some bread. So that's always love. They believed in me. It kind of went left a little bit, and then going from Braves, you know, Braves experienced it. He knows what it takes.

And that's why they're in it, you know what I'm saying? He knows how to build the culture. So they're making that move was powerful for him, man. So shout out to them guys and all my boys. I was there. Got released this year from him, but it's all love. You know what I'm saying? My life is great.

So I ain't tripping on it. It's part of the process. But those three transitions was tough. But it taught me a lot in life, man, just about how to, how to, to move, change, adapt, and just get better. Well, I can ask you this question. I kind of already know what your answer is. I said it in your thing, but do you wish that you could have been there this year and been?

You know, you know those feelings. You know what I'm saying? It's just human nature. Like, I would sit here and be lying to you for like, man, I wish I would have stayed there and been playing in it. But, you know, God got to plan. You know, I got to take his steps. Not so playing.

It's his playing more. Come on, man. And so I ended up going back to Sanfran and having a good year. I went back home. So I had a good story like rebrand. like rebuild and it was all part of his purpose just to lead people in the right direction. That's why my brand is, it's cater to around Christ, you know what I'm saying? That's what I'm promoting and promote God and trying to have people build.

So it was tough. I definitely wish I'd be playing in the Super Bowl. I've experienced it before too, so he's giving me that love of playing it. I lost two to the Chiefs, but I'm just having that experience was great. So I have those thoughts, but don't let it, you know, destroy me. Yeah. Yeah. That's real stuff though, bro.

In the day, God's playing. It's not yours. and you being able to live in that. Absolutely. Can tell about your energy, bro. Your energy, we're going to be keep praying for you. Thank you, man. Born, blessed, all that, brother.

The vibes is there. For sure. Appreciate that, bro. That's love, bro. And I'm going to ask you this, though, about Coach Belichick. Uh-huh. Do you think, how do you feel about him not being the first ballot Hall of Fame? Oh, my goodness.

It don't make sense, right? What's going on, bro? You know what I'm saying? The whole world, no. Now I went on a frenzy. Right. But it's almost like they give him something to talk about. Right.

I feel like it's a perfect storm. Yes. And the Patriots in the Super Bowl. Like, what's the odds of the timing? Even RKK. I don't know. I saw some dudes about him not, being in it first ballot. Like, it don't make sense.

So, I don't know, bro. It's some weird stuff going on. I don't know. I think they might pull the pistol on time now, man. I think they might pull the pistol on time. I do. Hey. If they're a little of a thing, there's no such thing.

There's no such thing. You ain't let Dillian. You ain't get crafting. It don't make sense, bro. If that's the case, they can. Gotta pull the pistol on time. They can't pull the pistol on time. They can't.

They can't. They can't. They can't. There's no way. Listen. So they're saying deflade gate. They're saying deflead gate. They're saying the flag gate.

They say in the flag gate. Take away two of them gates. He still got four. Don't matter. You're tripping. Hey. Hey. He's taking away both of them gates.

He got four. That's real, bro. They're tripping. I don't know, bro. We're going to see, man. The league is wild. You're, man. You're free agents right now, right?

Yes, sir. What's your next move? What are you looking forward to. I taught to Kyle Shanahan, man, exit meetings. We had a good meeting, good talk. You know what I'm saying? Like, man, I like how you played. I like your attitude, how you just approach things.

You know, I know my role now as a vet. You know, I'm not trying to be. I can be receiver one if I need to be. I can be receiver two if I need to be. I can play receiver three. I don't mind. I understand where I'm at in my career. And so I'm just trying to build, you know what I'm saying?

Get to that point where I can make some money, but also help young guys, help the team. And so I want to be back in San Fran, but we're going to see where it go, man. and my options is always open, man. Whoever gives me the best option, best deal that work with my family. That's kind of what I'm thinking about, man. So kind of that space.

Come on, brother. We're going to keep you frayed up, though. The homie. Yeah, what's going on, y'all? What are you, man? I'm doing good. How are y'all doing? Good, chill and y'all teammates or something, right?

Yeah, we, yeah. In New England. Both had what's all there under Bill? Yeah, under Bill. Okay, okay. How was your experience with Bill? Man, I love Bill, man. He had that dark humor, man.

Definitely. He was on us, man. He was on us, man. So he definitely, like, pushed me to be great, man. Definitely got the best out of me. Got you, got you. That's what's up. That's what's up.

Who was your, so, like, comparing coaching styles, was it just like that going hard on you all the time? Yeah, kind of similar to Matt Rue, man, where I played at in Baylor. Just always, like, hands on, you know, he raises a voice at you, you know, that you know the truth, you know. It's going to be tough coaching.

I mean, that's what good players need. Yeah, no, for sure, for sure, for sure. Yeah, for sure. Hey, I spent a hot month there. We lost, too. Man, listen, if they hadn't put cooks to sleep, man, it would have been over with for me. That's why I'm, that's a crazy story right there. They had something worked up for cooks, but anyway, y'all call it tough, man.

I just call it structure, man. I think a lot of people, especially, Like, you know, I'm older, 47 years old. So I'm used to the structure. Like, I was brought up, you know, in an era where you do as I tell you to do and you do it now, delayed obedience, disobedience. Come on. And, you know, through that process, it was like, yo, I'm somewhere where it's like, yo, it's A is A for everybody. B is B for everybody.

If I tell him that, even though he's had a longer tenure here, he's going to give me the same result as the guy I'm telling, you know, that's the first year to do. But as again, it was certain lenancies that were allowed depending on how far along were, which was a good thing too, because it was a separation. But, dude, on time for everything, no phones and anything, dude. No, no joke. When I say no phone.

They're serious. Brough, I got there. I don't know what, I don't know what's going on. But I know when I go to walking to the door to the meeting, it's 30 phones on the floor outside the door. I'm like, oh, I don't know what's going on, but I'm dropping my guy on the phone ring. For sure. I don't even know what

happened if a phone ring to me. I don't know what happened if you're late. What happens? Have you ever seen anybody late? I was late. Oh. So what happened? What happened? Bill Cookie, dudes, bro. Like, I went to dog house for about seven

weeks. You know what I'm saying? One. I'm on one. He tripping. Loki preseason, too. He's like, yeah, you ain't playing. I loki was happy that I didn't play in the preseason. But then he carried over to the regular season.

He was just tripping on me all year, bro. And that's what he started. He came in there. He didn't even start cooking. I was happy for him, but in my doll. And so, like, it's just crazy opportunities to present themselves. But like, Mama State, open the door for him. We connected right now.

It's a crazy story. But Bill, Bill, Bill, was on me, dog. He's like, yeah, I was tripping all year. It was just one of the years, bro. You know what I'm saying? He ain't having it, bro. They don't play with that late shit. They don't play with that late.

He don't play with that late. I'm sitting. You know, I had a locker that was like right at the door, you know how you go into the team meeting? Yeah. And I kind of, it kind of catch my eye.

I see somebody running and everybody then kind of left the locker room, but I ain't really paying no attention. And it's Tom. Oh, yeah. I'm like, oh, shit, I got to get up. I'm scared. I start running.

I start, man, it was still five minutes left. I'm like, everybody in here already. It's still five minutes. They spooked. They spooked. Spooke. Man, if you're early, man, if you're on time, you're late. They're going to close that door.

And I like what you're saying. That's structure. You know what I'm saying? And I think it's perspective for everybody. So, like, if you got the right perspective about it and like, all right, what is coach trying to do for me? What is he trying to build? How do I fall in line with this, bro?

Like you say, you see in the phones, it's like, I'm falling in line because I see what the culture is. And like, you never want to fall victim to the culture. Like you said, you don't want to find out. So I love the experience, bro, that we had there. It was very helpful for my career. I know his, too. So, like, it's just special to be a part of.

How you've been feeling out with going over to the Chiefs, bro? Yeah. I love it over there, man. You were spazzo when you went out that thing. I had, too, man. Got pat throwing me the ball, man. Yes, sir. Indy calling up the plays, man.

It was a great experience, I would say, man, just going from New England and going to that locker room over there, man. Definitely a lot of, you know, big players over there. You know, I seen, like, walking in seeing Trough. You know, he was in there catching jugs with his helmet on, like. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? I'm like, and I came around the time, like, they're getting ready for the playoffs.

Like, they end of the season, so I got there around, like, December. And them guys, you know, training, you know, training hard. But, like, it was loose, but, like, they also had confidence, you feel me? So just going there and seeing how they went out there every day and practiced, like, practice was clean. No balls on the ground, you know what I'm saying? It was fast. It was crips. They go out there, you know what I'm saying?

They'll be loose, having fun. But when they step on the field, they get that job done. They get that job done. You know what I'm like, bro, this is what I'm about, you know? I love to have fun, but when you step on the field, like, that's where you craft that. So, man, just being there, you know, I sign. P squad there. So when I got there, you know, I was just watching them guys,

observing. They threw me out there, man, and Pat was just slinging the ball. Like, go get it. So you got to do with your part. I can do that. You know what I'm saying? You feel me? And that was the fun part about it, man.

And, you know, I kept learning the offense and stuff like that. And, you know what I'm saying? Came back in the off the net season. And it just all came, you know, to the furrism. That's good shit, bro. They got a good culture. Yeah. From being drafted so high to actually coming back and being on practice squad,

what was that process mentally like for you? How did that help you? How did that build you? What did that do for you? Because it obviously didn't throw you into the basement too far that you couldn't get out. It did it because, you know, I'm from Miami. So, you know, I had it hard growing up. You know what I'm saying?

And I'm getting to drive to the second round, you know what I'm saying? And I wanted to win New England and I performed like how I really wanted to. When I went Peace Squad, you know, it was a humbling moment. But, I mean, it was time for me to, like, get back to myself. And, you know what I'm saying? And go back to my roots. Because I know I can play ball, you know. So I'm just going to KC.

And like I said before, I just starting back to square root run. and working, you know what I'm saying, getting it out the mud, putting that pain and just going out there, just being myself, you know what I'm saying, figuring out myself and not really blocking out the noise. That really what it was, just blocking out the noise and really locking in and just locking in. You think that second round, that second round draft choice actually got into your head and had you thinking that you was that dude without actually having to go out there and put that work in and then realizing like, damn, I ain't do it how I was supposed to do it.

And then having to start back over. That's that grind. Yeah, for sure. I mean, self-centered, huh? Yeah, and getting drafted the second round, you know, when I got inside the locker and they were like, oh, you know what I'm saying? The saying was like New England wasn't good at, you know, drafting receivers and stuff like that. So, like, it was a lot of pressure at that point, you know what I'm saying,

by me being young and stuff like that. So when I got out there, I was having fun with it, you know, I was doing my thing and practice and stuff like that. It's just in the games. It never, like, translated, you know what I'm saying? So, I mean, not really too many opportunities, you get what I'm saying? And being a young player, I feel like you need to have those reps and opportunities so you out there and, you know what I'm saying, see what you can really do.

Yeah, fire. For sure. For sure. Look here, man. We want to thank y'all fellows for joining us, man. Appreciate it. For sure. Yes, sir.

Bless you're highly favorite. Amen. You know what it is. There's no question about it. That's a lot. Nothing's. I don't know what it is. I'm going to get some of the clothes.

Yeah, I'm going to have. I'm going to have them over here for y'all. Thank you, brother. What size you want? Large. What you want? Exactly. You want me to wear that shit tight?

No, it's up to you. You know? Yeah. No, I'm three. You know what I do it too. I do it too. I do it too, I got you, bro. Thank y'all, my man.

Appreciate you. Thank you, man. Thank you, guys. Thank you, brother. Yes, sir. Yes, sir, skein. Good, man. You hold that chain, too, though.

Boy, I see you. I thought you was ice. That, I didn't, didn't I tell you? I said, that boy be fresh. Did you not hear me say that soon as he said? That boy came in a man clean. That man came out there. That boy came in that thing.

Clean. Super clean. What's up, boy? James, man. What's up, Joe? How you doing, man? Yes, sir. Yeah.

No, I'm saying I got to get the whole cut down. There we go. Get the background. Let's go. It's your boy, Romeo. You like this one, right? Right? Yeah.

Romeo take people up top. Yeah. Yeah. Look here, man. We're here. with Romeo Dodd's wide receiver, Packers, unrestricted, 380 out here. This off season?

Yes, okay, okay, okay. Okay, okay, options open. Options open, options open. Look here, man. With the options open, what is it that you, or where is it that you would want to be? Man, I would love to be in Green Bay, bro. And, you know, it's not even,

I think it's just how prestigious they are, how they go about things. You know what I'm saying? The discipline, the structure. Like, that's something that I would really want to be a part of, man. And, I mean, again, like y'all said, you know, the options are open, but if I have to choose, bro, I love being able to. You would like to stay in your bank. Are you guys working on it, y'all talking or do you think it's looking?

Yeah, I mean, I know, yeah, we're in the process. It's not trying to knock you. Don't get you in trouble. Yeah, bro. So, yeah, man, I know it's a lot in the air. I understand the situation alone. I'll be realistic about that. Just the amount of dudes that are in that room, just the, you know, the talent, you know, just the youngness.

You know what I'm saying? Yeah, and I'm, you know, I'm self-worry of that situation, and I understand this business. Just got to be realistic about it. much as I want to be there. Again, like, whatever happens happens, I'll just leave the rest unknown, but just to make it short, I'd love to be in green. But keep him in mind. So I say, got Joe in love, he's there.

So what would you say, as far as Matt LaFleuror, is he more, is the offensive coordinator? If he's an offensive guy, offensive mind, how would you say his coaching style is? Oh, he's a, he is a offensive mind. And just throughout these four years being around him, I just thought, you know, like, I mean, growth is everything, but my football knowledge, obviously he played a humongous role in that, and I gave him a ton of credit, bro. Okay, so I was like teaching you the game, understanding the ends and house of it, not like, oh, run this post. This is why I'm going to run this post. This is why you're going to do certain things.

Okay. You know, and again, that's the league. Like, you know, like, you get in there first year, you lines on the paper, and you go into the next year, and then it's why are we running this for one high or two high? And then it's where are you at in the progression? And then from there, it's, okay, now what is the defense running? What are the packages on the field? So the football knowledge, the IQ, it just keeps stacking, bro. And again, just from a foundational standpoint, I give him a ton of credit for that

because I understand that the situation that we were in, you know, just in terms of how young our team was and just the experience. I thought the beauty in that was that we all learned as a unit rather than, you know, you come into the league at some point and there's a guy who already knows, you know what I'm saying? Yeah, yeah. That's been there, bro. I felt like you were going through it together.

Yes, that's exactly what that was. And that was the, you know, and I've been saying that, you know, since Jaden came in and that group Wicks with Malik Heath, even though, like, I don't know, man, it was just amazing that everyone learned together. And I understand. I know how broad that sounds. It's just, it's just unusual. And I've said this before that, you know, I don't know.

That's just my personal take on it. Okay. So I can feel like you're basically saying it's like you're building something. Yeah. Everybody's working together. Everybody's working back. We're like, man, we don't have to start a new system, learning new things. We're like, now we're just putting on what we got next year.

So it's no, yeah, I feel like. With that process, brother, you're kind of, y'all kind of win. a die bomb in the last quarter of the year? Yeah, I mean. What happened there? What was that? I don't know. Anything changed? I mean, was it full straight?

I don't even know how to explain that to you, man. It's just, I'm just keep it. Is it a field? Is it a field? Was it a? I'm going to just keep it real smooth. You know, it's football. That's the game. And the way how things played, that was just how they played out. I know obviously losing Michael was. crucial down the stretch.

You know, even before that, we had lost Tucker Kraft, who was another big Oh, yes, yes, yes. You know, and again, that's not ideal. You know, you don't wish that, you know, in those injuries, you don't wish that on your worst enemy. And, yeah, man, I mean, it was obviously tough to deal with, but I thought the way how we went about it,

regardless of the result, you know, there was some growth to it, there was some positivity, to it. There was something to learn from. It was just, you know, just being on the bright side of the thing. No, for sure. Yep, yeah, yeah. And I think it's like you said, too, it's a couple plays here and there.

It's the NFL. You're playing against good, good, good team, so I respect it. Yes, sir. So do you, so I sit on your Instagram post when you posted that, it's kind of, was that like almost a farewell post? Because it's, no, it's kind of farewellish. No, no, man, that's just me being as authentic. as I can be.

Being real. Yeah, bro, because, again, like, as much as I want to be there, you know, we all, like, everybody, like, I'm not going to say everybody dumb, but we're aware of the situation. Everybody knows our situation. There's a bunch of receivers in that room, and everybody in that room can go, bro. You know what I'm saying?

And, again, that's just, you know, that's just part of this league, bro. It's a, it's a week. Just never know, bro. Just never know. You got it, you got, well, I'm not going to ask you who you got looking. at you or who you're in conversation with, but of all the teams that are potentially there, do you think Green Bay

will be the one that has the best opportunity of getting the Super Bowl? Yes, sir. Okay. Yes, sir. So we know where you're going. My man, Dobbs is not bullshit right here. In his heart, I feel, he likes the team. They're growing together. He comes back there. The coach is going to be what it is.

So you want to, you go somewhere else. You got to restart. You got to restart. Yeah, man. I mean, and again, I'm just, I'm just aware of it. You got it. I mean, you got a hat, bro. I mean, I know I'm from Cali, but. I'm just saying, that's what I'm saying.

I'm out here right now. You know, we're out here. Yeah, man. This 60 degrees, this, you see your arm dress. This 60 degrees. This summer weather is me. I'm up here sweating. Look at that.

I got sweat marks right here, brother. It's hot. I know what I'm going to be doing. It's negative five back home. I'm going to be rooting for you to sign back with the Green Bay Packers, watch you spazed it. this year with a nice deal and y'all go win some stuff bro yeah for sure I appreciate you brother for sure thank you for sure thank you for being thank you for being brother appreciate you

you man good luck god bless you know it look here uh go ahead you got to get off you got to get that yeah go ahead he got that appreciate you bro appreciate you bro yes sir for show thank you have a good no question joe yes sir what time is it it look like we might be having to get up out of here right now Oh, man, it's all right? How long was that? We got what? You got my man Kevin. Where he at?

Right, dude. Man, what you doing, can't get up here, bro? You don't clean up. You don't lost some weight. I said, huh? Man. What's up, man? How you doing?

Good to see you, man. This show, bro. Yes. Yes, sir. I've been locked in. No, no, I just did myself. You used a razor? Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Why not? I bump up like a pineapple pat. Now, man, you got to go with the grain, with the grain. Bro, I peel hair off my head. Oh, no. You got to slow down, man. Going too hard. You're going too hard.

Woo, brother. I wasn't, yeah. Well, first and foremost, I want to let you know, Cap, you're my favorite follow. Really? I promise you, I just watch it. You're like, do y'all don't think I want to post all the time? Literally, I watch all these stuff. You make me laugh.

you. I appreciate that. Genuinely, brother. You're crazy, man. You're like down corner, man. Come on, man. I saw that. I was like, I know him. I know him, but he might not have that way.

I know him. I feel like I know. I watch you all the time. I appreciate that. Thank you. Love it. Love you, your wife, the relationship. All this stuff you do, man.

I appreciate that. It was so good. When I saw it, I'm like, okay, I know this guy. I don't even need to, don't need to know. But who was your influence, who influenced you to, for, to be a comedian? Man, I think. There were so many people probably in order. Jonathan Slocum was the first, like, Christian comedian who I found funny that wasn't like church, church, church, church.

But maybe the most impactful thing outside of like Def Jam and Comic View was like the Kings of Comedy. When I saw the Kings of Comedy in theaters and like Bernie Max said, everybody was great, but Bernie Max said I was like, yo, it's impossible to be this funny. Like I never laughed that hard. I thought it was going to have an asthma attack. Yeah, yeah. It was one of me and my wife's first. things we did, we were still dating and still in high school. And I was like, you know, comedy had never, I've never seen comedy in a movie theater.

And it was packed and all those black people in the arena. And at that point, I was like, yo, I want to do that. Want to do that. Like, I think I can try that because I wanted to get to that level. Yeah. Yeah. I could tell, man, because long story short, you've been doing amazing. That's all I can say.

Thank you. High school. How old are you? I'm 42. 47? I thought I was older? No. You thought I was older?

No. How old did you think I was? It's the bottom? My age. Forty-old. I mean, I'm probably going to look the same when I look 47. Yeah. I ain't going to lie.

I ain't saying, you know, hey, hey. I know you, what, Washington, right? Yeah, Washington State. Yeah, it was Washington for 13 years. Seattle? You're Seattle fan? Seattle. Absolutely.

Seattle fan. Tacoma, Washington, specifically. So who you got? Seahawks. Why do you make you say that instead of just for you, I mean, just because you home-based? Are you a homer or do you really believe? No, no, no. So the thing is, I really do believe.

Okay. I think what. The Seahawks do well. You hope or you believe. No, no, I believe. I believe. The Seahawks play really disciplined football. Yes.

Right? You got the core to a Super Bowl winning game. You got a defense. Yes. You got a quarterback who doesn't make a lot of mistakes. Yes. That strong running game. The Charbonnet loss is a bigger loss than people think.

Yes. You know, because Kenneth Walker and Charbonnet is good one-two punch. But the one intangible, I think, is Drake May. Drake May is prone to make a mistake or two. And in this, close of a game with these matchups, his mistake or two, his youth inexperience might be the difference maker.

You not see his decision making in that last game where he took and sat down on things that he normally would have tried to make happen. No, no, I'm not saying he's going. Of the two, you know, Sam will take a while throw he's in there too. That's the only, that's where I'm at with him. Sam will take a while.

So I think literally it's super cliche to say turnovers matter. Yes. But it's going to be who makes the mistakes. Who makes the most mistake because Patriots are a big play team as well. Trevion Henderson, they had a lot of big plays. They got a lot of speed outside. They got a good defense.

But I think the Seahawks defense is a little better, and they turn the ball over, you know. And I'm just hoping the moment's too big for Drake Man. That's my biggest hope. The moment's too big. I'm with you because I'm looking at it the same way. I'm looking at it's Drake May. And the only person I'm looking at for the Seattle Seahawks, Sam Donald. It's the same thing.

So whoever does just don't. mess it up for us. We got too much of a good team. Who is us? Who are you with right now? When I'm talking right here, when I'm talking about my man, Kevin, I'm with the Seattle Seahawks. Okay? Damn, Debo don't know how to move. He don't know how to flow with right now. You gotta have this adequate energy for what you're

sitting with. Right now, we're talking like we want the Seahawks to win. Yeah. Sam daughter. What do you think, Jay? What do you think? Mr. Patriot? He was there for a month? Patriots. I was there for six days? No, I was there for six weeks. Okay.

Okay, there for six weeks, okay? So who do you think is going to win? Patriots. By how? Easy. Your boy goes slaying that thing and he'll go give it to somebody else, I promise you. You're talking about Sam, don't.

Listen, it's going to get too big for him. For Sam. He's saying for Sam. They're saying to him because of Sam. They got Tom Brady in there right now talking to this man. They got Tom Brady. He ain't on the field. It don't matter.

He's telling him, don't do nothing crazy. This is what you need to do. This is what you got. You see what he did when it was against Denver. Plays where he would have. He said, nope, let me sit down. Yeah, yeah, no. He did, but he said, nope, let me need on.

The other thing I think of is the NFC West toughest division in football this year. The Seahawks had to play a gauntlet of teams. The Patriots didn't have to play as many good teams. And they're still fresh. They still fresh? But I think those wins, those wins, those hard-fought wins against teams that might be even better than you. Like the Rams might have been better than the Seahawks. They might have been better.

But also you need a little luck. You do. That last play when Lawrence and them double team, Karin, out the backfield, you need a little luck. But they, Drake May has an MVP caliber season. I'm not saying he's going to come out and mess up. I'm just saying, you hope he needs to mess up. I've been, absolutely. I'm hoping he messed up early and get rattled.

The last three weeks, he hasn't been looking too, it hasn't been looking too good. So I'm looking like, okay. They didn't get the best Broncos team. Nope. Right? With the backup. With Stidham, which I'm not even mad. That's part of the game is health.

You know, you play who's in front of you. I don't hold it against them, but they didn't get the... The Seahawks got the best of the Rams. The 49ers were a little hurt. I'll give you that. But you did the little Rams. But you got the best of the Rams. A little hurt.

They were beat to death. They were dragging people in there, man. Come on. They might have called me. Look, look. Listen, you're a cleaner speaking comedian. Like, do you actually have to, like, sit down and write stuff out, or do it just, like, come naturally?

It's natural. I'm a church kid, and in my family, you could not cuss. Like, you couldn't even get caught slipping. It was actually more okay to get a girl pregnant and have a baby than to get caught cussing. Because you just get married and keep going. You just keep married and keep going. Or just bring the baby home. We got the baby shower meatballs.

We'll be happy. But I don't really cuss in life, so it's not hard for me to cuss, not to cuss on stage. And I think it's a little harder. Like, cussing is funny. So I think people who don't cuss usually are more. articulate with their words in comedy, not in life. Because you don't have, you can't lean on cuss words. Sometimes a cuss word is a great stand by a joke.

Damn. It's a get out of jail. Free card. So all that. But because I didn't have that, I just had to make it work. So I think now I'm a little better than being. That's what it is. Yeah.

You could put your words together. You got to. There's a lot of more words than the cuss words. Absolutely. And cuss words are funny. It's why it's so funny when little kids cuss. It's funny with old people cuss. It's so funny with little kids.

Oh my God. And they don't know their cussing. That's, yes. They just repeat what they heard. They don't know what's going on. It's hilarious. Them saying regular words ain't funny. Yeah.

Talk about what is that? The fucking goat. No, it's hilarious. No, it's a fucking goat. It's hilarious. You're not lying. Yeah. Yeah.

Hold, I got a show. I got a show him. I started to wear it, but I forgot. I'm going to wear it tomorrow. I'm wearing tomorrow. I'm wearing the bar. That's hilarious. I'll wear that tomorrow.

I don't know how I never thought of that. Debo. That's funny. Yeah. Yeah, for sure, man. Oh, been hilarious. I appreciate y'all, man. Been hilarious.

Thank y'all for having me on. Thank you for coming, man. Yeah, yeah. We all, they're trying to pin us off for our... Yes, we are, huh? Yeah. I need to get on. He did this.

We could go five more? We could go five more. I need that. Okay. And I spent 13 years there. And then I moved to L.A., I guess it was 13. years ago. Okay. So I started following the Seahawks at 99 when we moved there because El Paso, everybody was just like anti-what-everybody's

like. Yeah. So the Cowboys were winning. We were like, nah. So we root for the 49ers for a while, but that never really felt like my team. So in 99 I was with the Seahawks. And they stunk. They lost in the Super Bowl. They were cheated. Ben Roethlisberger didn't get the first down. And Roblesberger didn't get the first down. He went on the Tonight Show after that. I didn't get. I thought my head. Seehawks were cheating. 05. Watson Jones deserves his Super Bowl. Tell him, Cap. Yeah, Willie Parker broke that run off.

I was like, God, damn, Willie Parker. Yeah. And then Willie Parker, man, way, I didn't see Willie Parker for five years. Willie Parker was missing after that. But he broke that run, man. Yeah, he got, I mean, what are you talking about? The Pittsburgh Steelers. That's what we do.

Yeah, it was. Like, what are you talking about? Like, I was just over there on special teams, just, you know, slapping whoever was in the corner. You know what I'm saying? I ain't going to lie. That was one of the easier Super Bowls that I was. Wow.

What was the harder one? Arizona? Arizona. Yeah, that was a good, you changed that game. Yes, he did. You changed that game. A little bit. What does that feel like?

Exactly. You know that that is, that's basically a 14-point swing. To be honest with you. You stole a touchdown. And scored a touchdown. That's 14. 15 points. At least 7. At least, no, you took 7 and you gave 7.

You got to stop 7. Say 10. No, I'm going to say it for the four-go. Because listen. No. Because if you, say you get caught and then y'all fumble, you just stop 7. Right? Yes. So you stop 7 and then you, it ain't guaranteed score.

Every turnover don't need to a score. No. That's 14 points win. And the momentum. And the clock ran out. Killer. If you just got tackled at the one, there's no more plays. Yeah.

I ain't go lie to you. I know that. But I like to hear y'all talk about it so I can make it like I'm humble. You know, like I'm humble. It was only 10. Not to make it for you, you know it was 14. No, it was 10. You realize in the moment you're in the Super Bowl and this has happened,

or you just like, don't go down, don't go down, don't go down. Like, well, what happened is Coach LaBow had told us all week, like, if you score a defensive touchdown, this is what it looks like. It was like an 80-something, 86, 89% chance that you win the game. So anytime we got an interception in practice, Dang. We literally run the whole length of the field. We don't care if we got it at the 5,

and they'd wait for us to start the next play. We'd run back. Oh, dang. We kept doing that. Full speed. Oh, yeah, full speed. Everybody get a block. Okay.

Dude, and we got in the game, and it was like, boom, here it is. Like I said before, even on that play, I was supposed to blitz. Really? You didn't know that? No. I was supposed to blitz. It was an all-out blitz. So what makes you- What makes you decide now?

Well, Coach LaBoe gave us a lean-eat. See, he gave us leeway to be able to make choices because we're right there in the game. He said, I'm not out there with you. If you see something, you got a good hypothesis. Trust your instinct. So we were just getting there a step too late. And I'm like, you know what, I'm a step,

get to tackle to step at me, and I know that I'll send Tim is up free. So I do that. And as I step back, I'm looking at Kurt. Oh, man. But that was when the Pro Bowl was after the Super Bowl. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And I asked him, I'm like, dude, like, what happened? He said, you were supposed to be blitzing.

He said, I wasn't even looking for you. He said, so I looked straight through you. He's like, I was looking at, he said, I didn't even see the ball to the, I didn't even see you till the ball left my hand. So, quarterback's, I've always wanted, they really say he didn't see him. Yeah, yeah. He really did. So what you took that step?

Once I took that step, I got covered. He's gone. By the tackle. He tackled steps at me, so he's thinking, I'm gone. That's gone. I'm coming on the outside. He knows Tim is shooting in on him free, so he's got to get it off. Boom, boom, boom, he grows.

And after he, as he releases it, he sees. me coming from behind the tackle. Because it's covered up. That is crazy. Yeah. So in that process, bro, we just took off. And by time I got halfway, bro,

I'm like, I feel like I've been running for like a whole minute. I'm like, I'm like, damn, I got to make it. If I don't make it, it's going to be over with it. It's all for nothing. Yeah, off of nothing. Crazy. Yeah.

Wow, that's amazing, man. That's crazy. Hey, look here. Great play, Debo. Is it anything right now, that you think it's funny that's too hot to touch right now as a comedian. Like, oh, I don't, like, because they're cracking down on what they think it's funny. Here's the thing about comedy.

The harder it is to touch something and the hotter it is, really the better of a comedian you have to be. Because there's always a way to make a joke. But one, you've got to be really smart to get it off. Or, two, you've got to be prepared to deal with the consequences. A lot of times people just want to say, say whatever they want and they don't want to deal with the consequences. And it's like, in athletics, you know, sometimes I say that I'm going to get a fine, but it might be worth it.

So people just, a lot of times comedians just don't want to get in trouble and it don't work like that. So there's a lot of stuff I don't want to touch, just because I don't want to deal with it. Yeah. So I just be, as my star grows, I just fall away from a lot of stuff because I just don't want no smoke. Yeah. But it's also not really my subject matter anyway. I let the political comedians do political comedy because you've got to know a lot more to be smart about that.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. It makes sense. But I can get a joke in here and there. Mm-hmm. Get a joke in here. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Look here, man. Hey, Kev.

Kav, on State. We want to thank you for coming out. Thank you, man. They're spinning us again. I guess we're up out of here. Don't be doing this to me. You'll give you the double hands. Do like this.

Hey. Nah, I think it's about that time. Don't do that. Show. All right, look here, man. We want to thank y'all for joining us this episode of Debo and Joe. Yes, sir. Look here.

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