Nightcap - Super Bowl LX Radio Row Day 2: Part 1 - AD Mitchell, Jay Glazer & Kirk Herbstreit join!

Episode Date: February 5, 2026

Join NFL Legends James "Deebo" Harrison and Joe Haden LIVE from San Francisco Radio Row ahead of Super Bowl LX featuring Sam Darnold and the Seattle Seahawks vs. Drake Maye and the New England Patriots. Deebo & Joe are joined by Jay Glazer, Adonai Mitchell, Kirk Herbstreit, and much more! (Timestamps may vary based on advertisements.) #Club #NightcapSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Look here, man. We live from Radio Road here at Super Bowl 60. Yes, sir. Joe? What's up, Debo? How you doing it, Daveo? I'm doing great, brother. Doing great.

I'm not too sore from yesterday. Great workout, you know, not too crazy. A little core, a little... The cardio was crazy. I was thinking before we went out there, you said we got an hour. on the treadmill. And I'm like, there's no way I can do an hour on a treadmill no matter what. Elevation, the miles an hour, heart rate was going, but I knew I could do it because I wasn't going let myself down from doing a treadmill walk with you. No question, brother. It was good work, good work.

How did you feel, though? I felt great. I felt great. The great sweat, great everything, brother. I felt amazing. Core is good, looking good, feeling good. Great core workout too. But that's what I'm trying to. My hips are a little tight. You saw the little drill when I'm kicking. my legs up, the hip bag. You were talking about how you kicking that leg in. Tell them what's going on, Joe. I got a hip impingement, Debo. And it's been happening for a while.

I need to get rehab wanting some treatment. But, yeah, my hip flexes are just a little too tight. Okay. I got to loosen them up. I'm going to get some treatment, get some rehab. Got to get the dry needleing. I understand. You have a good time last night?

Yes, yes, yes. Shee Party was dope. Got to see a lot of friends. Stephen Ney was there. T.J. Ward, Richard Sherman. Running in the dudes is always, always a good time. Yeah, that's it. I ran into a couple people.

But it's kind of hard to talk to people there. Like, they're in your ear. You can't really hear. You can't really hear. You can't really hear. You can't really hear. So. Oh, yeah, because I got to get into the mic.

I'm going to scoot up closer. Yeah, get in that, deep boat. So I don't know we can hear you. They're saying they can't hear us. They're saying they can't hear us. Can you hear us now? Can you hear us now? Good, good, good, all right.

Can you hear me now? All right. So, we got that. Mm-hmm. We did that. What time did you get out of there? That time I get out of the park. I saw you make the Irish exit.

You ain't say by to nobody. I thought you was going to the bathroom, and then you just slid. So you probably left around 11.30. I was there probably 20, 20 more minutes after. I got out there night. I ain't stay out too late. Midnight, midnight. Because we had to be up here shooting.

This is 8 o'clock. This is 8 o'clock shoot waking up 6 o'clock in the morning. It's different than back on the East Coast. Yeah, yeah, for sure, man. I got out of here. I looked at my clock. It was 10.59. I told somebody, I said, we're about to be out of here at 11.

As soon as it clicked 11, I said, hey, it's time to go. By the time I looked down, got everything going, you know, it was 11-11. I was out the door. Great time, 11-11. 11-11. You was out of it. 11-11. What time was you sleep? That I don't know, because I was contemplated.

Should I go and get up? Yeah, go ahead. I got you. Yeah. So should I go and get up? and try and keep my East Coast time. Because you're still on that clock. Did you change the clock yet? Did you change the clock yet?

I had to. I had to. That one o'clock get up? You was getting at one o'clock that's crazy. That one o'clock get up kind of hurt. You know what I'm saying? Especially, you know, when you had me out. All night.

Eating, you know what I'm saying? Like, then that sets back my 16 hours where I need to fast and, you know, get my body to adjust to start burners and stuff. Okay, no, for sure. So, my bad. My bad throwing off your schedule. Yeah, you threw all my schedule. That's all right, though.

That's all good. That's all right. What about the video, though, about your man throwing all your waters on your driveway? I couldn't believe when you posted it. I thought it was fake. I thought it was like, I know those are your type waters. Because, you know, when we got here, we went to the grocery store and you got 30 gallons of water. No, I went nothing but like three, four cases.

Man, you know, a literated man. You're a hydrated man. I'm hydrated. But your man, disrespectful. He was throwing them just all over your damn doorstep. Listen. What's good with? They got to be playing.

You got to play that. Got a shot a video. Got a sort of video. Amazon, man. He was a little upset that I ordered what was it. Five cases of water. Yes. I mean, it's cheaper on there.

That's why you order it on there. And he said, that's one thing that gets me, too. You're supposed to be delivering the stuff. Yeah. You bagged it in and you just throwing it all on your doorstep. Dropping it hard too. Disrespected. Disrespecting it hard too.

Disrespectful. Hit me with the Cue next two. Tuesday, too. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? But I don't, I don't think, I don't think he know. Because, you know, I had, I had my packages dropped in different names. I never put my name in the package.

Yeah, it don't say James Harrison on me. No, no, it don't say that. They don't say, like, Rob, Rob. He got, it got some, we got some, felonious, like, out-of-control names, you know what I'm saying? So he came and he dropped the first two, and he really wasn't that upset about the first two. But the next two he dropped, yeah. He was like, just, just, yeah, yeah. What did he say?

Order all the fucking orders, why don't you? Why don't you? Yeah, yeah, let's fucking do it. He's like, just doing it. Oh, man. And then, dude, the last window that he dropped, dude. Oh, he was, yeah, he was hot about that. Yeah.

He left with the, he left with the Cue next Tuesday. Oh, he's pissed, too. Oh, dude. Now you're going to order more, though. Yeah, I'm going to order 10 next time. Got to. Hey, to the Amazon driver out there that dropped the water at my house. Listen.

I'm going to order 10 cases for you next time. So get yourself in the wait room. You're going to have a lot of work to do. What y'all want me to do? You want me to drop this mic or something? You want me to lift the mic, what you want. It's close? It's close enough or too close.

Okay. Man, I got to have my mic. My wife's so close to it. Y'all need to get some better mics. What you mean? Tilt it down. Tilt down like that. That good?

That cool? Up a little more. There you go. Here. Perfect. Perfect. Listen. So look here, man. Yes, brother. I just got a phone call, right? Mm-hmm.

From my son. Okay. All right. Is everything okay? Everything okay. He got into a little altercation. A little swabble? You know, I ain't even go get into making me hot.

No, no, don't know, Divo. Let's get me real relax. I want to find out who his daddy is, so I go see him. I want to find out who the kid he had the issue. I don't find out who his daddy is. He's off going to see him. That ain't something that you know. No, when you do something like that,

that's something you don't, you either got from your friends or you didn't learn it at home, you know what I'm saying? And you go ahead and you regurgitate that shit, you know? Yeah, so, it's, okay. You know. I don't want you to get, don't get, don't get too mad right now, though, I know. You need to be held accountable.

For sure, you can't just get away with doing stuff for no reason. There's, there's consequences. And then it upset me a little bit. Like, he didn't follow, my son didn't follow, protocol. Protocol is they touch you. Oh, he put his hands on your son first. Bro, you touch you. touch, you touch.

Keep your hands to yourself. Then after that, I don't stop. You're gonna tell somebody pulled me off. He ain't filed a pro car. Okay. Because you was a little hot at your son. I'm hot at the whole situation. Whole situation.

I'm hot. I am hot. I ain't gonna lie. I'm hot. I'm hot. You know, don't even let, don't let get to you, by the. I ain't go lie. You're gonna be all right.

You're supposed to, like, I'm supposed to be getting a car. Like, hey, you know, you know, he needs a lawyer or something. You know what I'm saying? He took five. He took five. teaches to get him up off of him or something, you know what I'm saying? Like, you're going to learn this repercussions and consequences to you, man. To your action.

To your action. Recusing and consequences out here, Joe, man. I just don't, I don't understand it, man. What's good? Dibo. Bray, go ahead. I'm going to switch. I'm switching.

I need your energy to get right because I know you're getting mad by the son and all that, but, you know, he's going to be good. He's going to be good. We out here, Radio Row, Super Bowl, week. Feeling good. hanging out yesterday was a great time last night was a great time what was your best part of the party your favorite part of the party my favorite part of the party yes listen um the music was music was good music was good i had a good time i mean our conversation with stepan a was lit i had a good

yeah yeah yeah i told you you know it is it is what it is he gets it you get you get yeah for sure for sure he gets it he gets you what you you would you be surprised at what you know but you don't know but you know Just from reading in between the lines, you feel me? If you know, you know. If you know, you know. Okay, there we go. Oh, my. There we is.

We got our good, man, Jay. Hey, Glazing. How you doing? Too bad to see, man. How you doing it? How you doing it? Yes, sir. Welcome, Jay.

What's cracking? Man, nothing much, nothing much. Can I a lot out of this up here or no? Yes, for sure. I don't know why you ain't. You put it, whatever you want, Jay. It's on you. It's your word.

I don't know. Your other sponsors are. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I guess I ain't seem to check from them, but I guess it's our responsible. Maybe I'll get you guys paid down for this. Man, that's what I said.

You put whatever you want to want to thank you for joining us here. Absolutely. We know you've been doing what you've been doing for a long time. And you, uh... 93. Yes, yes. No, 91 was my first draft. Draft?

Yeah. Yeah, 91. How about that? Joe wasn't even born. Yes, I was. I was two. It was two of 89, Jay. That's crazy.

Actually, in that draft. I was like rolling around you know Joe and his like little crib and stuff yeah yeah I like that I like that I like that a little carriage I had my babe in my diaper

yeah you know had a long time to build great relationships here yeah no doubt so that's what it's about man relationships you know everybody tries to go for the scoop instead of the relationship exactly why why they get it wrong

yeah yeah why is that that you're you know you're okay with waiting to to get the story out correct instead of trying to go ahead and jump there and be the first one yeah you know when i started covering the giants in 93 um i walked in that giant locker room and i'm like man how could how could i be different i had no education i got kicked out of my first college okay um i had like no education no experience but i'm like how could i be different well one thing i can do is i'm always looking at fight you know so i'm like all right if these guys work 40 hours a week i'll work 100 just non-stop

Stop, not stop. But also I looked and said, man, how can I be different? I think these guys all use their pen as a weapon. I'm going to start relationships. And look, we're just in sports, man. I'm not covering the Middle East. I take ourselves too seriously, right? So I started relationships.

And my best friend, obviously, says day one was my baby sister, Michael Strayan, you know. And that was out of the gate, right? And it's funny because back then I was making $9,400 a year. And I didn't have enough money. I was living in New York City. I didn't have enough not in great areas. And I didn't have enough to take subway to a bus to a giant stadium and back every day. So Stray drove me back into New York City.

He lived in Jersey every single day from 93 to 99. And the days he didn't, Kurt Menifee did. She's our host, right? So I hosted in two boys. But no doubt, right? And here we are all working together. So I own like 30 a grand Lincoln Tunnel Fair. sure.

But back then, too, was just like these relationships, and you guys heard me talk a lot about mental health now. And what people never got is I need teams for here to get the roommates in my head and talk nicely to each other.

You guys were all part of my team. You know, I'll never forget, Dan Quinn, man, probably about eight years ago. I'm at the height. Like, I'm on year four of ballers. I'm hosting the UFC. I'm no more an insider and Fox,

Sunday and I'm up my training camp tour that I was go to, right? For years, right? You got to see me. And DQ's like, what are you doing here? I said, what do you mean? It's what I do? He goes, no, what are you doing here? I said, what do you mean? He said, haven't you moved up and on for this? I said, bro,

there is no up and on for this. You guys are my male love. You guys in the fight world are my male love. Like, there's no up and on for this. That's really where the relationships came from. I always looked at it's like we're on one team, you know? No, I love that, man, because that's the biggest part when you really build that real genuine friendship

we feel like people are looking out for it and you're that guy. And listen, I've had tough stories and some friends. Like I broke all the Balco stuff. A bunch of my guys were using, you know? And I'm like, hey, you rather I put it out than somebody else. For sure. I'm going to go right down the middle, you know? Right.

What would you say, is there any scoop that you had that somebody kind of like got out right before you that you would kind of... Oh, it happens all the time. Because I wait for Fox Inville Sunday. So like this year it happened a couple times. So like this year I was going to report, Brandon Graham was coming out of retirement and no one knew. And it got out, man, maybe seven minutes before. Because I was, because I go on it at, what time's our show?

Nine? Yeah, I think I'm going to show a night. Yeah, nine o'clock, right? So it got out like 852. I'm like, damn. But that's what I, because, listen, the business has changed. Now what I want to make sure I do is I break stuff on Fox and a little. Sunday that nobody has ever heard

and you will, man you're coming out of left field with this. Where I used to do it and the way people do it now is you broke news, everybody steals it on Twitter. I work for Twitter. I work for Fox, right? And that's not breaking news. That's not being an insider.

That's just who could tweet fastest. Well, I can't tweet faster than everybody else. Right? So I'm going to have stuff on that nobody else has. Like a couple weeks ago you know, Matt Ryan's on the CBS show are opposite us, I come on to, and the Atlanta Falcons are looking to hire Matt Ryan to be their new president of football operations. That came out of left field.

And obviously that's what's happened, right? So, or I came on with the security report that D.K. Metcalf had filed. I didn't watch you. I broke that before you, but you actually went on front. You got it? You know what I'm saying? I broke that before you, but you actually went on front. You know what I'm saying?

Go ahead, baby. But that same show I broke, I had the actual security report that D.K. Metcalf had filed with the Seahawks about that same fan in Detroit the year before and had all that, right? So that's stuff that you can't just steal from me on Twitter. So no matter what on Fox Interval Sunday, I want to make it must-watch TV, you know? I just knew of it. I ain't had a report, though. You went into that research.

But I know you're real big on the mental health aspect. How do you think about, how do you feel like the professional athletes present like the issues? Do you think there need to be a little bit more open? So, oh, by far. So it's funny because I go, you know, Look, I've trained you in MMA, right? That's right? Yes, unbreakable.

Unbreakable. Our whole thing, right, is, man, if you were hurt and tired, you will never, ever, ever know. We will sit there and we'll ramp pressure and ramp pressure and ramp pressure and ramp pressure, and you may get it, you may get it, we're not going to show it, not going to show it. And you need that unbreakable mindset on a cage and a football field. But now we need a whole other unbreakable mindset off that field, off that cage, where you do show, you do chime. You do tell people.

And I think it's a scarier world than ever before. Social media makes us all things that our lives suck. We're comparing ourselves to everybody else is filtered, freaking highlight. One second or one day, and we feel so left out. Listen, I grew up in a Jersey Shore. When I got my ass kicked in Jersey Shore growing up, it sucked for a month. Now you're getting your ass kicked 100 times a minute on X. Yes.

You know? So I think the more you do open up, these, I always say these friendships, have become brotherhoods. Like this, she has braces right here? It's my most prized possession. It's given me by Michael Phelps. Michael's my dude. But now when I have a meltdown, I FaceTime him.

It could be horrible. When he has a meltdown, he facetimes me. But this was a promise that he will never quit life. That's a fucking brotherhood. Excuse me, can I curse on this show? Yeah. Okay, that's a fucking brotherhood. Thousand percent.

That's not friend. That's a brotherhood. I will not kill myself. I promised you. I'm in, right? When we get like this. And now we've created this text chain where all the guys who help me.

So The Rock is one of them. He's one. Sean McVeigh is one. The Smash Machine, who's my training partner, who The Rock just did a movie on, Mark Kerr. He's one. Andrew Whitworth's one.

Dan Quinn's one. And when any of us are struggling, we reach out to the group and we're there. When Sean lost the other day, man, we deployed for him. You know, Michael had a really bad meltdown last week. We deployed for him. We were all there for him.

So that's taking our friendships to a much different level. And I think that's, listen, I think if you could be vulnerable and open up. Yes. That those people will be there for you when you're 25, 35, 55, 55, 75, 75, that's it right there. And that's how we're going to survive in this world. That's a percent. So I'm all in and good with the mental health thing, you know, the real issues. of many of them. But how much of that

mental health now is you think is being overused? Because I think some of it is being overused. Like, you know, I feel undike driving to work because it's raining. I get you. I'm feeling nervous and all that and they're using that to get off from having to go into work and everything else. I hear you on that.

And like, so my, so I have clinical depression anxiety, ADHD, bipolar, OCD anxiety, insomnia. Other than that, I'm a model of stability. Yes. I'm Dylan Playfair. And I'm Tyler Smith.

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on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I don't know. It is hard for me to get out of bed every day in my life. that sickness is what makes me great, but I'll never miss a day of work.

I'll never let that thing win, ever, ever, ever. I will fight it. Some days it's harder than others. So I get what you're saying, right? I've made a decision where I'm not going to let it beat me, and I'm always going to fight back. So I hope more people can get like that, but, you know, again, not everybody's made.

Yeah, for sure. I get it. Look here. Look here. You got the inside scoop. So why, why didn't they really let Bill? in there? I'm not on the...

Come on now, you got somebody. I'm not on a committee. You got a relationship? You got a relationship? Do those cats let me in their committee? Are you serious? They ain't going to let you want to. Those other writers, they're never letting me in. Do you think they should let these writers be the only people that vote on that? No, absolutely not. And I've always said that. Why? No, absolutely.

It should be... But it's not now. Now, it's the Tony Dunges and Bill Pollings. But I don't know, it should be... It should be a committee. I think it should be a committee of guys that are already in there. that especially like the first ballot guy. I like that idea. Like first ballot guy should vote for first ballot guys.

I love that idea. It shouldn't be these writers who got a score to settle because so-and-so wasn't media friendly with me. I love that idea. I haven't heard that yet and I freaking love it. I support that idea. Did you think it was about the gates? Do you think it's just gatekeeping?

No, no, please. I think they're using the excuse. But if he's not in first ballot, then no coach ever should be in. That's what I'm just. He's not in, crafting out of the end. I don't know, they might pull the pistol on time and tell him, hold up.

That'll be crazy. I'm just saying, I'm just saying. There ain't happen. They ain't happen. Nice. No. I'm trying to tell you. No, no, no.

When I went there, I wanted to hate to do. But I couldn't. You couldn't, right? He's the best. I couldn't. Dude, I love him. I work with him. I love him.

And he works his ass off. Yes. Being a broadcaster, he works his ass off. Yeah. Well, look, I'm going to ask you about Coach T right before you get off. How do you think about, So Coach T stepped off from coaching.

Do you think he's going to come back to coaching? No, I know. I think he's going to do TV. Right now I don't think he's going to come back, but I talked to him yesterday, two days ago. Right now he's hanging out with Harley. He's having a good time. He's being dad trying to get himself in shape.

He went through a lot in those 19 years, man. He's trying to get himself going again. Perfect. Well, Jay, I want to say, thank. I am here to promote something. I was going to ask you that. Kelbury, which is an ADHD drug, which for all my stuff, I've been on over 35 meds.

None of them helped. A lot of them made me worse. But I got diagnosed with ADHD in 89. Told me how to learning disability back then. I didn't have a learning disability. I just didn't learn the way they taught. Right? And when I've tried to tell people like ADHD,

if I'm sitting in something I'm not interested in, it's like I'm drowning. I want all parents here to hear this. Like your kid is drowning. And the only way to get out of that, forget a breath of fresh air is to disrupt the class. We're to have an outburst. We're going to talk to somebody, you know?

And we're always getting in trouble. So when I first got diagnosed, they put me on stimulants, which were not good for me. Because when you have depression, you go up, but then the down is bad. And then for people like us who are violent, it's really bad. And we get vicious. Right? Yeah, yeah, okay, yeah. Yeah, you guys are a model of freaking stability over there, yeah.

So. Look at James. Right. James is Santa Claus all the time, right? He's the Easter Bunny. And, no, but it's bad. So I finally found something called Kelbury, which I actually take a night, which is the opposite of any other ADHD drug.

And it, you know, it basically has like when I got 19 roommates in my head talking in the night all bad to each other, man, it kind of cuts it down to two so I can relax, go to bed. The next morning, if I'm not on it, if I'm on Fox and about Sunday, I can be in segment two. I'm thinking about segment three. Like I'm never present. This gets me present, and it's... it's been a huge help for me.

Oh, no. What's the ball in here? Do you talk to a doctor about this? How do you... Yeah, go to your doctor about it. Yes. Elbred. Kelb, U.

K-K-E-K-E-L-B-R-E-E. It's really been a game changer for me. Okay, man. We want to thank you for joining us, man. Hey, Glazer, baby. Always. I appreciate it. Thank you, baby.

I love you, brother. Thank you very much, brother. Thank you so much, man. Everything, baby. Appreciate it. Jake Glazer in the building, guys. Hey, Glazer in the building, man. Pleasure.

Unbreakable performance. Founder of MVP, merging veterans and players. Check it out. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. What's up, baby?

Look here. Don't know. Slide on through. Come on. What's up? What's up? Good, good. Joe, Joe, brother.

Joe, brother. Yes, sir. Yes, sir. 2004. Second round, draft choice. Yes, sir, yes, sir. Indian Abla's coach, right? Was.

Was, two-time national champion. Georgia and Texas, right? Yes, sir. Okay, okay. And currently, Jets receiver. Yes, sir. How you doing today, boss? Good, man.

How about yourself? I'm doing good, man. I can't complain. Yes, sir. Hey, look here, I ain't never been of value enough to get traded, but how did that feel, brother? It was definitely surprising a little bit, you know, for the most part of the writing was kind of on the wall a little bit, but, you know, it still kind of came out of nowhere. It's just, it just feel good to be wanted, you know, more so than, more so than not being wanted anymore.

I mean, second round of draft choice, that's kind of wanted, you know what I'm saying? I was, I was, I was picked up two days later, you know what I'm saying? The trap is over. So you're with New York now, right? Yeah. Got Aaron Glenn. Have you met? You know, no AG, Aaron Glenn?

So I was, he was my coach back in Cleveland, my DB's coach. Right. How do you feel, how do you feel his coaching style is? Sure. He, he a true player's coach. Like, he, he can relate to the player. You know, of course, he was a player at one time. But, like, he's just a true motivator.

Like, he ain't going to sugarcoat nothing with you. Like, if he needs something out of you, he's going to, he's going to, tell you. And, like, as a player, I feel like you don't really need much more than that. That's what you need. Yeah. And you got your man, too, G-Duck, Gary Wilson. Yeah. I love that dude. Man, how you feel like you'd be able to pick his brain and learn a little bit off of him? So he'll baller. Yeah. Like, he a straight baller, and it'll just be fun. You know, we ain't, we ain't really get to spend too much time together when I got traded in. But, you know, getting the whole off season in and kind of going into the season, that'll be, that'll be fun.

For sure, for sure. Yeah, definitely. How much more you think they'll be able to integrate you into that, but you're getting the whole off season there? Is there anything that they talk to you about, opportunities? I mean. Or focus or where they see it? I don't really know.

I'm just kind of prepared to just go in and earn whatever I go in and earn. And, you know, I'm always better on myself, of course. Got to. You can't bet on nobody else But you don't bet on you who will Ain't no telling You know what I'm saying You know what I'm saying

You got to Yeah So I said you had I watched the game When you had a little fumble Against the coast Into the end zone Yeah

But I'm not gonna lie to you You took accountability Of it Some of the times That thing is the hardest thing to do In the league When you're a man I just want to let you know

Respect you And you came out And you came out and keep balling Like that's what it said man Not letting nobody Ever put you down And just knowing that You got it

You know what I'm saying Keep that ground going, keep it popping for sure. Was that difficult to bounce back from? Did you have to talk to this? Get it to your own head. Did you have to talk to somebody else? Like, what was the process of bouncing back from now?

How was that? Man. What got you there? It was more so just kind of the way I viewed it. It was like, okay, I know I'm going to have some type of pushback from this, of course. Like, you can't just live life normally. like nothing happened. So I kind of looked at it as like, you know,

it's more so somebody else blessing than my church. Because I know, you know, kind of once I go back out there, like I still play the same game of football. You know, it was more so just about keeping my confidence. You know, while I'm in practice, while I'm in scout team, like whatever it is, just trying to keep that hope alive. No, for sure. And keeping that, knowing you a dog.

You hope a lot of you, like, man. It's just a fun, it's just a flute play. Yeah. Yeah, like the possibility of that really happening to players, like, is low. Yeah. So you did everything you had to do the whole play. You know what I'm saying? Like, not like nobody else did that, bro.

So you hooped out, I just love the way. You're going to finish that and be good to go. For sure. So what brings you here? What you got going on, boss? Man, I'm here right now with Dexcom, you know, to show off the Dexcom G7. You know, it's a continuous glucose monitor that you slip on the back of your arm. And, you know, I was, I was diagnosed with type 1 diabetes when I was 16 years old.

So, you know, this kind of came in my life and kind of changed the game for me. And, you know, it had me switching from, you know, diabetes and football to, you know, really just focusing on my profession and, you know, letting this do the work. So that's a 24-hour monitor that you just hope? 24-hour monitor. Right now we working with the 15 day. You know, the last product was only for 10 days. So now, you know, you only have to have to change this out, I believe, once a month or twice a month maybe. Yeah, once a month.

Wow. Hell yeah, man. I didn't know that you had diabetes, that's good stuff. So, you know, man, you know the ground. You fight and all that. My man, I'm here fighting for his life. For sure, bro. Keep it going, man.

You do the shot and all that. Oh, yeah. Yeah. So what is that, like a app that connects to your phone or something? Yeah, you hook it up to the phone. It's a Bluetooth device and, you know, you hook it up to the Apple Watch as well. And it's every five minutes it'll send you an alert of where your blood sugar is at. So, you know, usually as a diabetic, you prick your finger.

Yeah, prick your finger then take a shot. You know, this also works hand in hand with the punk to which, you know, they, they, they work hand in hand and now you don't even need to take a shot or perfectly once it hits a certain point the pump it automatically that you will what you need. Yeah. Okay. Bro, that's what I'm talking about. You need to get more people

because the diabetes is a real thing. You know what I'm saying? That's shooting itself all the time. So people that don't have it don't really recognize it, don't really know what people are dealing with. So appreciate this, letting people know the knowledge. And it's Dexcom. Dexcom. Dexcom. G7. G7, man. Descombeckon G7.

15-day. My guy is the one that y'all want to holler at, talk to. Man, do my dude, A.D. Mitchell. So how many times before this had you been in a situation where, like, you're in the game or something, and you're like, I'm dying? You got to prick your finger then and try and figure out what's going on? I kind of, so everywhere I've been, you know, I always got to hook up with the nutritionist. Right. So, like, you know, we'll work hand in hand.

And, you know, it's, it honestly depends on the day, depending on the game, depending on. the game, depending on, you know, how I'm feeling that thing. But, you know, for the most part, it's really checking myself kind of every time I step off the field, you know, for every drive, just to make sure. And if it's not every drive, then it's like that. So before that, you had to actually just pop your finger every time you came up.

And you're trying to catch rock like that too. Yeah. That's what I'm saying. Ooh. Man. I got a different perspective, but it's like, sure, bro. He out there really, really fighting.

Yeah. I'd rather get stuck with like a real needle than have to prick my finger there. That's the most annoying thing ever, dude. They got to do what they got to do. They're going to do. When's your off-season program starting this year? Shoot.

I mean, it kind of done started already a little bit. But I say it'll probably pick up once I leave here. Yeah, I get myself a little bit. Like, soon until the Super Bowl is done, that's when you know. seasons over so he can start getting back to it. So. For sure.

Debo, you right. Debo, he don't never start working out. He probably work out of this morning and everything. The easiest way to stay ready so you don't got to get ready. Never get out of shape. If you got something hurt or something like that, give it time to get healed up. You ain't got hurt, two weeks.

Yeah. That's all you need. And it's not like straight back the routes hard and everything. No, just keep your body right, conditioning, all that stuff for sure. Yeah, yeah. Keep that ground going, bro. Come on, man. Look here, man, Adee, we want to thank you for joining us.

Thank you, brother. Appreciate your having me, man. Yes, sir. Yes, sir. I appreciate you, brother, no doubt. Good old A.D. Mitchell, man, two-time national champion. Two-time. Two-time.

To be more careful. I never had. Come on. Never had it. My bad. I ain't never had a national championship. You know what I'm saying? You know, oh, yeah.

I ain't even never went. You know what I'm saying? I didn't even went to one. I don't know what they feel like. That's what the SEC worker do. I never went to a bowl. I only had one winning season in my career. I was six and five, and we thought we was doing it.

That was our first winning season since, like, 1987. Yeah, six and five. Yeah, that is winning. Woo. That is over 500, baby. Got to be more careful. Over 500, Joe. Mm-mm, mm-mm.

Look here, baby. What's up, baby? I guess we got questions. We got some traitors. We got some trade. Where are we at? We got something over there? You see, we got...

We got... What we got? It's going to be behind us they see it. Uh-oh. Uh-oh. They know I, they know I got good vision, but that's kind of close, ain't it? No, I think it might pop up right there so we're going to be able to see. Yeah, I'm going to do it like this so I can see it on my camera phone.

I still can't see it, though. It's all good. What we got today, though, Deepo? Who you got? Hey, we got. We got, we got, we got, Kurt coming in a little bit. No, no, no, no, we got night. We got nightcapt tonight.

We got nightcap tonight. We got nightcap tonight. What is that? 8 o'clock? 8 o'clock. 8 o'clock? Then we're on nightcap tonight. 8.

Live. 815. We up. Okay. Okay. What do you got? Joe, what is your favorite? That's no, that's obviously addressed to you.

That's obviously addressed to you. This man is so. It's a question that we have to ask. No. They're not asking me because I don't. You just want me to say. It's a question for both of us, right? Yep.

No. Yes. No, it's not. Do your job. Who is this? Nate, Harper, don't ask questions that I can't answer. You can be watching it. You could have watched one that you had a favorite memory of.

As a player? No. When I was playing and I wasn't in it, I don't care. What you want to be rude or no? I don't care. I don't have a favorite memory of me not playing in the Super Bowl. You have a favorite memory? What's your favorite memory?

I don't care. No. Watching the Super Bowl, Joe. Oh, favorite memory of me watching the Super Bowl. Okay, I might say You know what, Debo? I'm going to say... It don't say in the Super Bowl.

Super Bowl memory as a player. Right, not player in the Super Bowl as a player. All right, well, look. You retire. You're no longer a player. When you were a player, what's your favorite memory? My favorite thing, we got the... Hey, dog.

That's what I'm talking about. My favorite memory was your pick, Debo. Your pick. Hey, your favorite memory is your pick. We both got the same favorite memory. You got Kurt coming with my good old dog. What's up, boss? How you doing, Kurt?

I was excited. Good to see you, baby. Good to see you. Good to see you. It ain't had nothing to do with you. It's for the dog. Hey, boy. Hey.

Yeah, he don't like you. He don't like me. He said, me see my sunglasses. He felt. He felt you wasn't a dog person, man. They do feel that. Yeah, he felt that. Whoops.

Take my mic. Give me a chair. Give me a chair. Yeah, we should. Get up there, Petey. Jump up there. Don't come up here. Come here, man.

That boy, big. There you go. Damn. Good boy. If we can get the chair to the corner, then we can see it. Yeah. This made my week. I love it.

How we doing, guys? Doing great, man. Awesome, man. Good to see you guys. Great to see you. Congrats on doing this. Thank you. You guys enjoying it?

Oh, yeah. Having a blast, man. Having a blast. Having a blast. Having a blast. Let's tell you all who we got here. You know exactly. We got Pete the dog.

That's the most important thing. Yeah, and his owner. I'm a handler. I'm here as a handler. That's so true. That's my life now. Look here, man. Indiana.

Wow, how about that? Okay. This is what I want to know. I don't believe it. I am a Kent State alumni. Yeah, I know. Do you see any possibility of this situation being able to happen for Kent State or programs like mine, you know, that's at the...

I almost think it's getting become more of a haves and a have-nots. And I think the Kent states of the world, if you were there, and you had a great freshman or sophomore year, Florida's coming down and they're going to give you game-changing money. And it's life-changing. And it's hard for me to visualize a group of four team right now, being able to keep their roster together to make a possible run. I would love it, but I just think that the Florida's of the world, the Ohio States, the Texas is, it's so different than when you guys were coming through the recruiting and just the way they, high school kids aren't being recruited like they used to be.

They're going to, they're going to get a guy who's an all-conference guy and get him for two years. So it's such a different game. Some people are still developing. It's kind of like NFL. You build through the draft and you kind of sprinkle in some free agents. I think the best teams are doing it that way, not just going to. all in on trying to bring in portal guys. But the game is so different right now.

Do you see any point in time where they're going to have to put some type of stipulation rules to how they're doing this with the... Yeah, I think that's what we're waiting for, James, is rules. Like right now, if you get frustrating your team's two and six, you just leave. Like, if you're mad. Right. You're not playing. You just leave. It's like, you imagine the NFL?

You just bounce. I mean, you played on teams that are championship teams. You played on teams that were struggling by week eight. You kind of know you're probably, imagine just being like, I'm out. And I don't, what's that teaching the kids? You know, like, I have four sons. Like, I can't imagine every time they ran into an obstacle, it's like, we just quit. You know, go over here and try something.

Like, you want them to, the part of great part of football is trying to overcome that and learning how to overcome adversity. And we're teaching these guys right now just go around it, go to another place. and I just feel bad for them long term because they don't have any roots with where they are. I'm sure you still have connections in Gainesville and you were there three years. And I don't know, I feel like when I went to college...

Damn, he ain't even talked to me about Kent State. We haven't a little to be having a thing over here. Did you, do you have tight? I still got some ties. Do you? Okay, good, man. But I just think it's... I'm trying to get enough money so I could go in there and buy me a program.

Nice. I like that. I'm going on ahead and get me a... I'm trying to get a budget like old state. Oh, yeah. That's tough. Man. That's tough.

They got some great back. They do. But I just, I feel bad. Like, where are we going to be in 10 years with these kids? Maybe went to the NFL, played for three years, didn't get that second contract. Don't have that generation on what income? Yeah. What happens to that guy?

Like, what did he learn in his college experience? Because he's probably still jumping around. Just jumping around. No competition. Right. Right. Like, you have to be able to grow. So I'm with you a thousand percent.

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or wherever you get your podcasts. How do you feel about Fernando Mendoza, do you think he's going to be able to change a podcast? franchise, like a number one pick legitimately coming in? Again, it's your guy's world, but I don't know if he's the guy that you're going to say it doesn't matter who's at receiver, it doesn't matter who's it running back. We got this guy.

He's our, we're going to, we're going to, he's a guy that you're going to put on that is going to process at an elite level. He's going to see you disguising, uptight, showing man, and then dropping off playing. He's going to see that. Okay. So he's that guy. Okay. But he doesn't have a skill set that's just a game change.

But I'm a fan of these kind of guys. But you got to have pieces around him. A thousand percent. If you got pieces around him, he's your guy. If you want him to just like save the franchise, I don't think he's the guy. You don't think he's that for sure. I just don't.

Like Herbert with the Chargers, they went to him and it was like, we'll eventually get good enough. But in the meantime, he's such an elite skill set. We're going to be okay. He's not that. I got you. He's going to manage it and get you out of trouble, not letting him blitz if he's hanging out.

And all of a sudden he comes late. Eventually, I think he's going to see things like that. So he's very incredibly smart. And he does have some skill. I mean, he does have some ability as he saw in his championship run. I could see like how Sam Darno with the Jets, how that's the same person that's playing with the Seahawks right now. But you put a good defense around you, you put a good team around you. You don't have to do everything.

Yeah. Just don't mess it up, put it in the right spot. And I think Brock Purdy out here kind of does that, right? Mr. Irrelevant. one thought he could do anything. And again, I think you got Christian behind him, all the pieces of receiver, understands what Kyle is trying to do to attack a defense. He's an extension of Kyle. And he's like a computer. That's what Mendoza. He's going to be a computer, that kind of guy. And with those, like you said, too, the coach is putting him in a position that him and Kyle,

Kyle got people running open. Right. You know what I'm saying? You don't got to throw it in too many tight windows. Exactly. Right. Yeah. Yeah. College pro. Transition from one to the other. How much of that transfer from college for pro? And what do you think the biggest things that do or don't? Well, I think a quarterback, and again, you guys are the perfect age to see, like, early in your guys' careers, there were quarterbacks that probably were savants when it came to what we're talking about. And I feel like as high school football, like quarterbacks came up in middle school and high school never huddled, never under center, looking over the sideline, looking at an Elmer Fudd sign or whatever.

You know what I mean? They weren't quarterbacks. And I think now the game has changed so much. Most of these guys are coming out of these systems where very rarely are they running an NFL kind of offense. So you just wonder, you're really kind of rolling the dice, wondering, does he have what it takes? Like, does J.J. McCarthy leave in Michigan?

Does he have what it takes? You really never know until you do all your due diligence, roll the dice and then you hope that they have that ability like Caleb Williams it's been so fun that guy never huddled in his life and he was a superstar best athlete on the field that's all he knew

so his instincts as a quarterback but he's worked at him and work through with Ben Johnson his primary's not there he's going to go try to make James miss and a lot of times it worked out for him now he's becoming a guy hits first nope second third and then if it's not there

he can do his thing I'm excited to see where that relationship, by the way, is going to go with Caleb and Ben Johnson. But I don't know, man. I'd like to think because of his preparation. He's the guy you play with these quarterbacks. They got their tablet, always with them, always at home watching film.

He's that guy. So I'd like to think it'll transition, but who knows? You know what? Something that surprised me that I think both me and Joe actually found out a little bit of this year a lot of these young guys, receivers, some quarterbacks, they can't read coverage. No. I never heard of not being able to read coverage or being taught that in the process.

Like where does that, where is that being dropped off at? I think the emphasis, again, you lived it, the five-star, four-star world, it's seven-on-seven. You know, it's almost like AAU basketball. So instead of getting in the mud and like learning the fundamentals of the game, I think there's so much flash and so much hype on social media about this corner. He's out here and he's doing this. And he's not doing necessarily what he's going to do in a game.

He's just doing clown stuff. You're grabbing behind. But it's encouraged in the grassroots high school stuff. So they come to college and these college guys, they're just trying to keep him on the roster. You get a five-star corner. You're just trying to keep him happy and want to stay. No one's getting tough in doing like Nick Sabin, like,

And like this is how you play. Worrying about losing it. They're worried about him leaving. Yeah, they come in as celebrities already. Exactly. That's exactly right. And they're up there catering to him and they ain't putting not one snap on the field. Bingo.

It makes the fear you have. And then you're thinking in the NFL, okay, so you have Joe, who hasn't been taught the fundamentals, but man, he can run, change a direction. He has all the, I can get him to learn. That's what I think they're rolling the dice on. And sometimes it works. And other times, guys just never get it. You know, they never get it.

How much of the game for you guys as defensive players was not just how big and strong you were, how fast and instinctive you were, but just doing your job, understanding the why and how what you did affected what he did. Like, to me, that's like next level. That's the whole thing. But they're not doing that again. No, no. No.

I don't even think, I don't think a majority of, younger coaches are teaching that, to be honest with you. Like, I think guys are getting in there and they're looking at what it is they want to do instead of getting the guys a whole understanding. Like, when I got in, I didn't know what the hell I was doing, so I couldn't even do what I needed to do. How did you learn? Once I understood, I sat down with my coach, my coach, Coach Butler, sat down with me

and, like, day in, day out, I'm after, I'm here trying to figure out everything. But once I learned what it was that I could do, I couldn't learn what I could do better. but I can learn with the guy next to me with the guy on that side of me. But did he teach you that? Or did you have that in your own mind that you needed that? Like to make me better, to make the defense better, if I learn what the guy is doing in front of me,

behind me on the side of me, if I have no work there, instead of me just sitting here on nothing, I can squeeze in and wait for that deep dig coming at 17 that's going to be coming up through here. Right. Right. Sitting down here in the plural flat in five yards. And now I'm making my safety,

But it has a secret sauce. It makes players of you guys. But that's something that, like Dick LeBow, like he taught us that. Coach Butler, they taught us that, like, hey, if you don't have anything here, help your buddy. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? I would say. I would say this too, the same thing.

Because when you first get in, you're worried about it takes you long enough to learn just your job. So when you cut in there my first rookie year, after the second year, you start learning what everybody's around you doing. When you call the play as a corner, I first come out, all right, we got covered two. I'm thinking about what's my job. That's it. Now, second year, they call cover two. I already know that. I'm just worried about when they motion, what's our check, what are the splits?

What routes are they running? So now I already know our defense, you start getting more and more comfortable. See, to me, what you guys are describing to me is what gets lost by the average fan, which to me is how much football savvy, intelligence, communication, especially great defense, like Seattle, both these teams, the communication. But these things aren't talked about. going back to your original point about college and high school players and coming up, I think we just see raw ability.

We see potential and we think is that going to transition? And what you're describing is you better go to the right franchise with the right coach. Otherwise, you're just going to have a really talented player that's just not understanding the nuances of playing as one of 11 on a defense. That's another thing. When you have a coach, what we like to call buying, When I have a coach, my coach is Joe Hayden, and I know how Joe Hayden played the game, I saw how he played the game. I'm going to buy in to him immediately.

And now I'm going to listen to everything he has to say because I know I've seen greatness and now he's coaching and telling me what to do. So it's an automatic buy-in to that. And now players are wide open to feed and take in the information. Are you going to coach? Yes, I think it's about to start getting into it. Good for you, man. I just wanted to take a little bit of time out first.

Yeah. Oh, he's giving a face. Are you going to leave my man here? No, no, no, no, yeah. We're going together. We're going together. Oh, yeah, when I get that 30 million. Come on, man.

Okay. You're going to coach? Yes, yes. Look here, man, before we get you out of here, man, what brings you here? What's the guy going on? So I have four dogs. I'm a big dog guy. And I lost one of my dogs last year.

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I mean, he's my life. Oh, he's having a business. He's just, my dogs are like, I have four sons, but they're really like my kids, and I care about them. And so Spruce, the fact, they have 10 ingredients in their product. They're fantastic. So, yeah. If you're interested in that and you do yard work or you have people doing your yard work and you like a pet-friendly product, Spruce is definitely a home run.

Can they buy this in stores or is it online? Yeah, yeah. Yeah, online. You can buy it in stores like Home Depot. Nationwide? Nationwide. Okay. Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. A good product. Check those dogs with spruce. Yeah. Come on. Thank you. I appreciate you.

Yeah, man. Great seeing you, man. You too. Congrats on. You, too. Congrats. I appreciate you. I appreciate you.

I appreciate you. I appreciate you. Thank you, boss. All right now. Good old Kurt Hurd Street. Come on. And Peter. Pete.

Come here, Pete. Good boy. Good boy. Come here. Come here. He don't like you. Well, they do like me. Joe.

All right, Pete. Thanks, guys. Thank you, Kurt. All right now. Have a going, boss. Good old Kurt. Yes, sir. Spruce.

Right? Spruce, spruce. Spruce. Ain't that a. My man, Kurt. That's a legend right there, B'bo. That's a big dog, man. That's a lab.

He got a meaty head for a lab, but I'm trying to tell you, man. Definitely. Definitely. Hello. What's up, baby? I'm good. How are you?

Good. Nice to meet you. See you. We're cooking in here. We're cooking. Look at that. Look here, man. We got another question, man.

Let's get up over here. We got. You could be gifted a ticket to any event in the world. Which would it be? Joe, if you could be gifted a ticket to any event in the world, which would it be? You know what I'm going to. I'm going game. I'm going any game seven basketball championship floor, court side.

That's why I'm going. Courtside basketball games are the funnest thing that I could go to. Like, I love football and the suite and all that, but you too far. No, no. That basketball on the floor with Braun right there sitting right next to me, like you sitting right next to me right now and I like this. Yeah, you don't like, I don't know y'all, y'all, whatever. So, sitting next to Michael Jordan or Kobe Bryant,

whoever one is y'all favorite player of all time. Right, sitting right next to him on the floor. If you sit next to Jordan, you might want to call that one, huh? I might. All right. All right. I might, well, let's put it up. I might take the little tight seat.

Game seven, game seven, Utah Jazz versus with Jordan. Put me in the box. Put me in the box. Put me in the box. I'm going to have a TV in the box. I'm going to have a better view. I'm going to get all the replays. I'm going to get all the excitement of the live with none of the removal of space.

Okay, so you want to be, you want to be. Like, when we're in the box. Super Bowl in the box. Super Bowl in the suite. Super Bowl in the suite. I can respect it. Super Bowl on the sweet. Game, I'm going on the sweet.

Plenty to eat. Plenty to eat. Plenty to eat. Super Bowl and the sweet. I ain't got to get up to go nowhere. All I do is turn around, you know, grab me some crab cakes, you know, grab me some steak, you know, whatever it is that I need. It's already in the box. to go. When you're on the floor, though, too, they bring you whatever you want. They bring you that.

I had crab cakes on the floor. I had crab cakes on the flow right next to Brown. Right. Right next to MJ. Where your table at that you eat? Oh, it got to be on my lap, though. You got to play with me, man. You're trying to really throw down. You're trying to throw down. Yeah, I'm not sitting there snacking. Do I look like I snack? Mm-hmm. Do I look like I snack? No, you don't like you snack. Hey, Super Bowl, Pittsburgh Steelers. Any Pittsburgh Steelers, Super Bowl. Any Pittsburgh Steelers, Super Bowl. bow. I got to be in the box, though.

I'm going, I got to be on the floor. NBA finals. Got to. I'm a basketball guy, D. Bro. Listen, I'm a big basketball. Listen, you see my jacket? The only way, the only way I'm not in the box,

I'm on the sideline as the head coach, getting 30 million. You're my DB coach. We're down there. Yeah. I like that. I like that view. I like that. Yes, sir.

Yeah, Lord. Yes. Yes. Look here. What we got next? You got something else up here? No. There we go.

Ooh, who wins the matchup? J.S.N. or Christian Duralis? Boy. What do you call a win, though? That's what I'm saying. What is a win? Is it over, is it under a certain amount of yards?

Yeah. You know what I'm saying? Is it keeping them out of the end zone? Like, what do you call a win? If he goes, if he goes. See what he call the win. What we call the win? It's five.

I'm a D.B. I'm saying a win for me is under. Against him. Against him. Against him. Against him. Keep them under 50 yards. Under 50 yards and no touchdowns.

50 yards, you're tripping. They can throw that boy the ball about 15 times. No, I'm just trying to tell you. As me as a D.B, if I keep you under 50 and out the end zone, that's when I won. Keep him out of the end zone, period. You won, but you don't want 12 for 150 and no touchdown. You got hit. You know what I'm saying?

But depending on, is it zones? I don't like a lot of those dig routes. If that's just in the zone, the linebackers coming up, biting up. He's saying, man, man, man and man. If he's going man and man, he's going man and man, and he on him, keeping him under 50 yards, no tugs. And that's when. If he goes, if he's more than you.

It's manned defense. He targeted him eight times. Uh-huh. Perfect balls. Perfect balls. If you strap them up, if he's four, four catches for 42 yards, zero tuzz. 442. That's strap. That's work. I like that. You know what I'm saying? Anything under that 50 and no tuddies? And you got a couple of, you got five catches for 50 yards. I'm in no tuddies.

So with that being your, listen, so we just got your standard. That being your standard. Who wins the matchup? Jackson Smith and Jigba. Yeah. Because I mean, he's going to get more than 50. I mean, if you're going to lock him out, he might get in the box, too. He's going to get the zone. He's going to get 100. Man, they throw that man the ball too much. You think you go hold that, man. You go strap down the- That's what I'm saying.

If he throw it to him 12 and he catches half of it, you just got, he got six depending on he. If he gets 10 yards of catch, don't let him go off top on you. Like one of these catches could be for 45 yards. And then you're looking nuts. Then you're six for 120 on your head and the tutty. Bad day. 12 opportunities.

I could take 120. You can take 120. If it's 10 or 12 catches. And no, and what about the time? No, as long as you say, keep him out the box and you won. Keep him out the end zone and you want. Yeah, but I'm with you. I'm going to have to go.

I'm going to go with J.S. I got to go with J.S. And that's no disrespect. It's just that how many opportunities is he going to get it? They're going to keep, they're going to tone that rock. And Walker is going to be toting that joint too. Same thing. What we got?

Flip it. Who wins MVP? I'm going ahead. Well, if it's going on what I think, Seattle, if they Seattle wins the championship Sam Donald's going to win the MVP. I wouldn't I wouldn't go

well they ain't going to win so Is it going to be Kenneth Walker is going to Kenneth Walker Who's going to win MVP Of course you know I'm going to win Because you know

So you're going to go Drake May I'm not going to vote Drake May I'm going to go Whoever get this game changing, winning interception on your boy. On Sam Donner, whoever pickoff.

So it could be Gonzalez. If Gonzalez take one back to the crib, paint the whole game. He's trying to get it out of there. He's trying to squeeze it in there tight. He got pressure coming up on it. He swang that thing out. Boy, come down on that thing.

It's just a little out of pick six to the house. So you're like a defensive MVP. I love defense MVP. Some people say I should have won it. What are you talking about? No, no, that's what I'm saying? You know what I'm saying? I know why I ain't win that, but, you know, that's...

Yeah, Peyton. That's why... Me and... Me and, yeah, yeah, inside story. Me and Madden got some issues. I ain't go live, but... Madden? Listen, but I talked you later about it.

Yeah, yeah. Straight hate out of the gate. That's crazy word. Listen, bro. That's crazy word. I sat down at the box with him after the game. After the Super Bowl? After the game, right there, sat down.

everybody on that crew so good John man like I said man I'll talk to you later but anyway man what's the next question let's see

who wins oh let me back yeah I got to back up for this one well here's my question do you think the NFL has a quarterback

development problem within this league because unless you're Mahomes Jackson Allen Burroughs or even that these guys would rather discard you like a used sock instead of building around the quarterback position. Do you think the NFL has a cook?

All right. Yes. I think it's not, it's a development problem and it's a, the coaches, some coaches aren't that good. Some offensive coaches aren't that good. And they try to put the blame on the quarterback like, oh, no, he's. He's not doing nothing. He's not good enough. Prime example.

When we say Sam Darnold, he was not, it's not like it's a different person that's playing. The Jets didn't have an offense set up. They didn't give him structure. Defense wasn't good. You just have a full-blown bad team. So Sam Donald looks bad. You go with the Vikings, he looked a little better, you know what I'm saying? Team was better around him.

Developed, you know what I'm saying? Better plays. Then you go now to Seattle. You're not asked to do as much. He's the same person. He's just hitting better passes, getting the ball of run game. Amazing. Jackson Smith and Jigba, their defense unbelievable.

Don't lose it for, Sam. So I think coaches are, coaches take the shortcut sometimes. I mean, like, oh, no, you got to be able to, no. I understand, Joe. It seems like just yesterday that the Two Guys Five Rings podcast was in Paris for the Olympics. And now we're heading to Milan for the 2026 Milan Cortina Olympic Winter Games. I'm Bowen-Yang. And I'm Matt Rogers and we'll join athletes from 93 countries as Two Guys Five Rings hits the Italian Alps for the 20s.

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