No Broke Months For Salespeople - The Belief Shift That Turns Burnout Into Success | Lynea Carver at Teach to Sell Live

Episode Date: March 7, 2026

What you’ll learn in this episode ● Why rapid success can lead to burnout for many real estate agents ● The identity shift required to move from employee to entrepreneur ● The “act as if�� mindset and how it builds confidence faster ● How daily habit tracking can transform your performance ● Why belief is built through action — not emotion ● The small consistent behaviors that compound into predictable success 👉 Don’t miss out! Sign up here:https://link.cpi-crm.com/widget/form/bJZ4NbRp6ZpSVgGoNb4j?notrack=truehttps://link.cpi-crm.com/widget/form/bJZ4NbRp6ZpSVgGoNb4j?notrack=truehttps://link.cpi-crm.com/widget/form/bJZ4NbRp6ZpSVgGoNb4j?notrack=true Shadow Hour Updates to get the latest updates and reminders for our Shadow Hour sessions. Stay informed, stay ahead! To find out more about Dan Rochon and the CPI Community, you can check these links:Website: No Broke MonthsPodcast: No Broke Months for Salespeople PodcastInstagram: @donrochonxFacebook: Dan RochonLinkedIn: Dan RochonTeach to Sell Preorder: Teach to Sell: Why Top Performers Never Sell – And What They Do Instead

You're listening to No Broke Months for Salespeople Podcast. In this episode of the No Broke Months for Salespeople podcast, Dan Rochon sits down with Linnea Carver during the Teach to Sell Live event. Linnea shares her journey from corporate America to real estate, where she quickly achieved massive success, selling 35 homes as a solo agent before burning out. She reveals how belief, identity shifts, and daily habits helped her rebuild her business, triple her profit, and create a sustainable path to success while helping other agents do the same. Hi, I'm Linnea Carver. I'm based in Tacoma, Washington. A real quick story about me. I got into real estate after having a mom who basically hounded me for the first 38 years of my life to get my real estate license because that's what she did.

So I finally got into the business. I burned out in two years. Burned out. I made so much money. Sold a lot of houses. I sold 35 houses my third year in real estate as a solo agent and said, I can't do this anymore because it was just a lot of work. And I really liked being married to my husband. And I really liked having a house. And I really liked having a life. And so I really quickly, after going broke, burning out completely, turned my business around and tripled my profit in 12 months. And now I help other real estate agents find that success within themselves as well. Okay. So that's a, that's a little bit of a, I don't want, I think the best word I have for it, I don't think it's the best word, Lanaya, but I think the best word I have for is a little bit of a paradox.

And so where I see the paradox in that is you had rapid success, correct? Correct. And then the success in itself caused, you know, a lot of hours to be able to invest into your success because, you know, you're getting these clients and you're working with them and now you have to, you know, you have to serve them, right? Am I correct on that? 100%. Yeah. All right, cool. So let's just talk about that.

And then we can go through what you did to be able to scale off of that, right, so that you can get some relief from that. But before we get to that, I want to talk about how, because this section is about, you know, believing in yourself. And so for everyone that's listening right now, you have to be able to believe in yourself. That's the starting point. Lesk, can you put back up Linnea slide there with the four pillars? And so if you're not able to believe in yourself, then you're not going to be able to even

pick up a phone or do an open house of your real estate agent or go knock on a door or whatever or go to Starbucks and whatever you have to do to be able to get business, you're going to be struggling with that. Would you guys, would you agree with that, Linnea? 100%. Absolutely. So have you always, have you ever had challenges with belief? Never. No, I'm kidding. I'm kidding. Let me kind of go back a little bit. So before I got into real estate, you know, I was working in corporate America. I had a very long career in corporate America. and I knew that I wanted something different in my life. And, you know, I don't know if you've ever had that feeling like something needs to change.

Like there's just something different. Something's pulling in a different direction. And I have to tell you, that's actually part of the reason I decided to get my license. And getting your license and actually being a real estate agent are two very different things. Yeah. There are two very, very different things. and the first year in the business, I decided, I had my license and I was practicing. I was practicing because I didn't actually have the confidence.

I didn't actually believe that I could make real estate work for me full time. I was making well over six figures at my corporate job. I had a very high standing position. I had all these things. And I had built this career over periods of time that all of a sudden, here I am now thinking, who am I? to believe that I actually have a right to go out and sell houses. Who's gonna buy from me when I'm brand new? Just because my mom's in the business doesn't mean

she's gonna throw me business, right? Who, yes, there is a lot of belief that goes into stepping away from one identity and then adopting and basically becoming this new identity. It's interesting that you say that about the identity. I know once upon a time I used to own a really rather large real estate broker, so I had a lot of, a lot of agents that would come in that would be newer agents.

And they would always struggle with, you know, my family, my friends. They don't see me as a real estate agent. And I'm like, yeah, they don't see you as a real estate agent because they see you as a triangle. Yep. And now you're communicating to them that you're a circle, right? So the circle is the real estate agent. The triangle for me was a waiter and for you was a corporate job, right? And so, you know, when I started, people didn't see me as that professional, right?

So I had to be able to believe in my, now today. you know, I don't think anybody would think, you know, like that's sort of a part of my identity, right? And so that, you know, in other things. But, but it's, it's, I'm not, I don't think there's very many people. There's nobody here, anybody that I could say that relates to me as a, as a, as a waiter. Okay. Because that's what I was, yeah. So that was that, that was when I was that, that triangle.

So how did you get from being your identity of, of, of, of that corporate person to now when, when I look at you, Linnae, I look at you as a leader. I look at you as a real estate sales professional. I look at you as somebody as credible. I mean, I don't look at you as you as a corporate person. Not at all, right? Now, of course, I met you after you made that transition. But internally, how did you make the transition? Very, very, very slowly, to be super honest. It didn't happen overnight. And, you know, the thing is, like, what I always tell people when they're trying to adopt this, whoever they want to become, when they're trying to become, what I always tell them is they have to act like that person.

I just told myself every day that I was a very highly paid actor. I mean, probably not. An actors probably get paid more than me. I don't know. But I told myself, you're a very highly paid actor today, right? I had to just act like the person who was a successful real estate agent. And the funny thing is, because I was part time in the business, I had a full-time job where they didn't necessarily support you working outside of it.

It was kind of an old school corporate mentality where you couldn't have a second job. So I kind of had to live this duality of like corporate Linnea versus entrepreneur Linnea. And so I, I had to just take action every day, like start becoming this professional real estate agent. And then eventually one day I actually believed that I was that person because I sold a house. And I was like, oh, okay, well, that worked. Now let me just pretend on this person. And I just started pretending I was that person every day. And I just became that person.

I love LeNea that you're saying. In Teach to Cell, I go through a concept of Teach to Cell, which is based in normal linguistic programming and the pillars of sales. And so normal linguistic programming is the study of subjective experiences, the study of excellence. And in the book, I go through what we call the as if frame. And what LeMay is describing is what I described in the book, which is, is the as if. So in other words, I'll say that. The same thing I'm going to say, but it's using different words,

is I'm going to act as if I'm already a successful blank. I'm going to act as if I'm a healthy person. I'm going to act as if I am financially fit. I'm going to act as if I'm successful in whatever field that I'm in. And so it's an understanding that's okay, well, I can just sort of create that as my being when I just pretend that if I'm a top producing whatever I am and whatever business that I'm in, then what would a top producing person do in that business?

Now I'm going to do that, and then guess what's going to happen? You're going to become a top producing person just like when they have. Would you agree with that one now? 100%. Right. I started watching the people that had the results that I wanted to have or had what I considered to be the success that I wanted.

And I started just acting like them. I started noticing. what they were doing, what they were saying, what, you know, what they were, what they were, what their marketing looks like, what their listings look like, just little things like that, the things that I could glean, I started acting like I was that person. And then beyond just acting like I was that person, I would actually reach out to those people and, and ask them. Like, how did you get here? So I could adopt some of those mindsets and some of those skills. And the thing that I learned from all of it was every single one of them had to adopt a mindset

in order to get to the results that they wanted to get. And that's where it came. That's what I did, the step-by-step what I did. If I was at my office right now, I'd reach over at my desk at my office. I got two books. One's called Real Estate Evolution, which is the most useful book. If you ever want to know how to sell real estate, get real estate evolution. The other one is a little book called Millionaire Real Estate Agent.

And that's by Gary Keller, Jay Papazon, and Dave Jenks, which is the second best book. good. Linnaeus looking for her. See, she and I are like Twinsies. Thank you, Lenaa. She's going to pull that book out for me. I bet hers isn't signed by Gary's like mine is. It's right here. There it is, right?

One of the second book I ever read in real estate. In the back of that book, open off the back of that book real quick. If you could please, and you're going to see a bunch of people there. You're going to see Mike Mendoza. You're going to see Pat Hyvin. You're going to see. I'm going to blame. All right.

Show that for us if you could, please. All right. So I can't see who that is. Mike Mendoza. Yeah, that's Mike. He's in Phoenix, Arizona. He looks a little bit older than that picture there. That was probably about 25 years ago. Mike's a friend of mine. And so Mike is, and why is Mike a friend of mine? Because when I was a new real estate agent, I picked up that book, and guess what I did? I called Mike. I called Pat Hybin. I called C.C. Cruz. And you can flip through there. I don't remember how many people are in there, right? But there's probably eight people in there that I had conversations with at the beginning. Right. And many of those people, are friends with me today, right? Brand new. And it's just like what Linnea says,

and this is basically like, hey, what do you do? How'd you do it? And not just that, because it wasn't really relevant to me about what they did today. What was more relevant was the question that you should be asking, you're going to go through this. The teacher's cell is going to help you with this, right? The next piece there would be, when you were me, three days in the business, what did you do?

Okay, because by the way, I called that, she put that photo. photo off of Mike right there in the book. I called him when I was licensed less than a week. All right. Pat Huyves knew that book. Have you ever heard Real Estate Rockstar podcast? Pat originated that. He retired years ago.

And I remember I called Pat. And then years later, I interviewed him on my podcast on the No Broke Months for Salespeople Podcast. And I told Pat about when I was less than a week and I gave him a call. He was at a Starbucks getting a coffee and gave him about 30 minutes of his time graciously. And then years later, I'm interviewing our. on the podcast, and he didn't remember that. I told him about that.

His response to me was, well, I'm glad I wasn't a dick. I thought that was a funny response, right? Anyways, so, Linnea, let's get back to the content. Les, show that slide for me, right? Because one of the things that when we talk about belief is, we're talking about outcomes right now, with something that I realize, and Leslie, I'll show a slide 10 there,

is that you don't necessarily have to believe that you can be Linnea, that you can be whoever it is. right where you don't have to believe that but when you look because that's the outcome right but when you look at the input right because lenaa said about the habits okay and so what i want to talk to you guys about in the book i go through the discipline leading to the habits that lead to the success success okay so once you start unraveling this you start looking at those people say what have they done i don't need to believe that i can be that person necessarily i just need

to believe and have the knowledge, I can do what they did. Okay? And then when you look at it, and sometimes when you look at it, you think that it's like you're lifting these a million pounds off your chest. No, it's small actions consistently daily through time that builds a business. You guys follow me on a high, Bowler, nice to see you. So small actions through time build your business. And so when you can believe that I'm going to do that small activity and then you actually

do it and you do it over time, it combines and it, it, it, it compounds. Lania, what are your thoughts on that? I got that list. Thank you. So the thing is, I actually implemented a habit tracker. So after talking, after asking people and talking to people and learning from them, I started implementing habits that they would do. And I actually created a habit tracker, which all of you can have a copy out of if you're curious to see what the little habits I created were. But we're going to get that. I can, I'll put the link in the chat for you. Or you can send me, actually, why don't you send me a message on Instagram real quick and just put the word habits in the DM? Then we'll send it to you.

There you go. Send me a message, like, just do it right now. Type the word habit. I'll make sure I send it to you today. But what I did is I implemented this habit tracker. And it started out with like something super simple, right? Like one thing I learned when I wanted to be this new person, I had to, like I said, adopt the habits, adopt the mindset, adopt the belief that I was this new person. And I learned how they started their morning.

I learned how they started their workday. I learned how they, what they did throughout the workday, the things that they implemented every single day. And then I just tracked it. Because when I've always found that when you actually track the habits that you're doing, you do them more. It's that dopamine fix. And the dopamine fix is what helped you believe that you're who you are someone else, right?

You start to believe in that because like the dopamine fix is like, oh, I checked off a box today. Oh, I checked off two boxes. Oh, I checked off seven boxes this week. And it's kind of exciting to see that every day. And that's like the step-by-step tactical of how I did it. Love it. So, Linnea, so if you could give us like a one or two-cented summary about belief as we wrap up here,

what would you tell the audience that would be vital for them to understand that's something that's actionable and something that they could actually implement into their business? What would that be? Belief is nothing about emotion. belief is 100% about action. So you start to believe when you take action. So let your actions dictate your emotions. Don't let your emotions dictate your actions.

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