No Broke Months For Salespeople - Why You’re Still Broke and What Successful People Do Differently With Money | Bishop Foreman

Episode Date: March 31, 2026

What you’ll learn in this episode: ● Why money is a tool—not the root of evil ● The #1 financial mistake most people make (lifestyle inflation) ● How mindset impacts your income more than your circumstances ● Practical ways to reduce expenses without sacrificing quality of life ● How to shift from scarcity thinking to abundance thinking ● Simple strategies to create additional income streams ● Why structure—not income—is the real financial problem ● The power of taking action (“Go”) vs overthinking 👉 Don’t miss out! Sign up here:https://link.cpi-crm.com/widget/form/bJZ4NbRp6ZpSVgGoNb4j?notrack=truehttps://link.cpi-crm.com/widget/form/bJZ4NbRp6ZpSVgGoNb4j?notrack=truehttps://link.cpi-crm.com/widget/form/bJZ4NbRp6ZpSVgGoNb4j?notrack=true Shadow Hour Updates to get the latest updates and reminders for our Shadow Hour sessions. Stay informed, stay ahead! To find out more about Dan Rochon and the CPI Community, you can check these links:Website: No Broke MonthsPodcast: No Broke Months for Salespeople PodcastInstagram: @donrochonxFacebook Page: https://www.facebook.com/NoBrokeMonths/Facebook: Dan RochonLinkedIn: Dan RochonTeach to Sell Preorder: Teach to Sell: Why Top Performers Never Sell – And What They Do Instead

You're listening to No Broke Months for Salespeople Podcast. In this episode of the No Broke Months for Salespeople podcast, Dan Rochon sits down with Bishop Kevin Foreman to unpack the real truth about money, mindset, and financial structure. From overcoming scarcity thinking to building wealth with purpose, Bishop Foreman shares powerful insights on why financial success and spirituality are not in conflict and how aligning both can transform your life. This conversation dives deep into practical strategies, mindset shifts, and the habits that separate those who struggle financially from those who thrive. Welcome to the No Broke Months podcast. My name is Dan Roshan. I help salespeople to be able to gain consistent and predictable income. Today, I'm joined with a very special guest, Bishop Kevin Foreman, who was a Renaissance man.

I always wanted to say a Renaissance man, who has devoted his life to changing lives. So he's born in Denver, Colorado, reared in Orange Mound, which is an area of Memphis, Tennessee, riddle with a plate that often accompanies that inner city. He had really humble beginnings and through God's amazing grace. He's the five statistics and transcended superficial boundaries. Today, he and I are going to be talking about the art of getting your finances in order. Bishop Foreman, welcome, sir. Listen, thanks so much for having me. I really am looking forward to our conversation.

I know it's going to be probably going to hit a lot. And I'm excited about it. I know it's going to add a lot of value to your audience. And thank you for having me. And thank you for what you're doing to have value in people's lives. Awesome. Awesome. It's my pleasure. Thank you for being here.

And so we're coming to talk today about the art of getting your finances in order. But before we do that, I know that you're an influential pastor, successful in being a, you know, a planter of churches, a bishop, a success coach. And so you're an author, you're philanthropist. You sort of balance the spiritual side and the business side. And, you know, based of what we were talking about before, it's like they don't have to be different things. And I think so many of us do you believe that they're different things. So I do want to touch base on that. But before we do so, give us the journey.

Like when was Bishop Foreman Kevin? Yeah, yeah, listen. Look, so here's the joke. I came out of my mom's womb with a Bible and a briefcase is the joke. I just came out, preach it. That was a tough, that was a tough delivery for her. I hope, you know, my goodness gracious. Five pounds and two ounces.

Exactly. It was different. I had this affinity towards business and entrepreneurship and wanting to build things. And then I had this affinity towards spirituality. And so for me, those two things have always converged. They have never been in conflict with one another. And I agree with your point. And I think for a lot of people, they see it to be successful.

I can't be spiritual. And if I'm spiritual, I can't be successful. And I reject that notion. I think it's because of my spirituality, that I am successful. And there's a lot of biblical principle for that. I just suffice them to say, I don't think those two things have to be separated. I think when you walk in both of those things in fullness, that is for those who that are doing that, that is the fullest and best expression of who they are. So I don't see those two things that separate at all. Money's not bad. Winning's not bad.

Prosperity's not bad. Helping people's not bad. I believe a blessed to be a blessing. So if you got broke months, it's difficult to be a blessing. So I love the whole thing. thing. And I saw No Broke Months, I was like, this is my language. I love this. So, no, I don't see those things separate. I was born again in Denver, raised in Memphis. My stepfather, for those that, have you ever seen the Ike and Tina Turner movie, what's love got to do with it? Are you familiar with that movie at all? I've seen it. Yeah, it's been a bit, but yeah. Yeah, it's been a minute. So that's my stepfather. My stepfather was like Ike Turner. He was a womanizer. He was an

abuser. He was a lot of negative things. And sometimes the gift were given in life is who not to be. And so that's what happened with him. Very smart man, but he never tapped into his potential. And I remember years and years later, as the plan would have it, years later, he actually was serving on one of the teams, a security team. And I remember telling him, I said, you are so smart. I said, you are dumb. And it was a joke.

We had a joke. I wouldn't say it in the meaning way. It was a joke because he never tapped into the potential. We want to talk about a salesman. He could say, oh, ice to an Eskimo, take a little. the ice off of the Eskimo's igloo. And Eskimo would say, this is a great deal. Like, he was extremely articulate, charismatic. He could convince you of anything. And I just never saw him tap into that potential, which was a gift to me because it gave me a fire to tap into the potential for me.

Fast forward, start my first business and 12. To this day, there's a bank in Denver called Young Americans Bank. We pioneered their business loan program. They had a special charter from the state to offer loan products to kids under 18 with parental consent, of course. To this day, there's a picture of me when I was 12 holding up my first business plan. Every entrepreneur, they call it a mayor of town. It's like basically a simulated city for entrepreneurs, young kids, middle school, high school, college. Everyone that passes through there, they have to walk past me holding up that business plan, which I love that to this day.

What was the plan? What was the business? So it was an enterprise, right? I'm 12 years old. I'm taking over the world. So it was lawn care and a tutoring service. So those were two things that were low-hanging fruit to me, easy to do. I like teaching. Part of you wanted to be a teacher and then the lawn care, you know,

mowing lawn, you don't trim me, that type of thing. It was easy to do because people wanted the best price. I could undercut everybody else's price because it was just me. And, you know, I'm a kid. So I could beat everybody's best. 12 of you got the advantage. You don't need to make as much as the 25 year old, right? Exactly. Exactly. And the business, you know, it did well. The business did well and you know you fast forward um got into before i graduated high school i got um i got got into a lot of marketing so um the there was a modeling company modeling agency people probably know the name jeline casabankas well they were under a new owner out in the denver market and uh so i started there as a telemarketer within 30 days i was the director of marketing so i was a 16

year old kid um directing a marketing department we grew up from nothing to i had like 80 on the team by the time we left. We literally built that team. And so we were deploying people in malls. I mean, we were doing it to build up the center of what have you. And then from there, get into finance and the mortgage brokers get into that world. And like I mentioned, about 21, we built members largest black coin. It did two office locations that we opened and did really well. And then all of a sudden one weekend, the industry, not just our business, the industry collapses. And that's where that book. talking 2009 is this is well yeah so that's when it hits the secondary you yeah it starts way before

that you know it's it's the end of 05 in 06 when the rubber starts meeting the road at the whole seven level and the broker's level all right let's let's uh let's break this down right you gave us a whole bunch there right yeah and i want to i want to and that's really good that's great context of who you are right and why people should listen to us listen to you right now yeah i want to you know bring this in alignment with the art of getting your finances in order. And something that you shared there that I'm just curious, right, because I would consider myself very spiritually connected. I would not consider myself very religious. I see the value of religion. I enjoy going to church sporadically. It's not one of my habits. It's probably an opportunity for me, right? But I am absolutely a

God, you know, a God believe in man. And, you know, and I think that we all approach that differently. So I'm using that as a context of my first question with you, which Bishop is that when we look at the Bible, there are, there's interpretations of it and there's a sign meaning to it. And from a very novice viewpoint, as I just described, my understanding is that there's some some language within the Bible that could suggest that money is, you know, the root of evil, you know, going through the head of the pin, you know, the camel and please help me with this. Please help me with my ignorance, right? But there's some things that could be construed as negative, right? But then there's also many things that could be construed as positive. And what I understood that you said is that there is alignment within the biblical teachings and business entrepreneurship. Help me sort of reconcile my misunderstandings and reframe my understanding, if you could, please.

Yeah, I love the question because I think what you said is exactly it, is there's a lot of things that people think the Bible says or somebody told them that says or there's interpretations that aren't there. So, for example, you mentioned the one scripture, money. Actually, the Bible doesn't say that. It says it's the love of money. That's the root of all kinds of evil, right? That's first 10 to be six and ten. So one, it doesn't say money is evil. Money is a tool. It's a resource. In fact, there's another scripture, Ecclesiastes 1019, says money answers all things. So there's certain things that when you're empowered financially, you become the answer to. You don't have to pray about it. You don't have to, you can just be the

answer. We can solve the issue. So you have that. Over 15% of Jesus words, more than prayer, faith, heaven, and hell combined were about money. Jesus has a treasurer, Judas. The Bible says in John, and he was the treasurer. He kept the money box. If you're poor and broken, you have nothing and you're doing nothing. You don't have somebody whose entire job, whose full-time job on your team, mind you, is to, that they gave up their previous job for, is to count your resources. So I think what you just said, and there's so many layers and levels, I think the first thing to realize is, you know, for people is what does it actually say? And the reality is most of what people think it says it doesn't say.

Secondly, is to just, if you step back from it and just use, let's, let's for just a moment, let's suspend letter by letter, and let's just look at it conceptually. if God is a father, what father doesn't want his children to do well? Right? Like what parent says, I hope you have nothing. I hope you struggle. I hope life is hard for you. Like, what loving parent does that?

Now, I only suspend that for a moment because someone say, no, you can't do that. Let's bring it right back in. When you fix the misunderstandings, you can approach it from a very, very different perspective, that I'm blessed Genesis 12 to be a blessing. I'm empowered to empower others. When I have no lack and no broke months, I have the ability to be. a blessing and empower so many other people. So I say this to people. I don't get in fights with people about that. If people want to believe they're supposed to be in poverty, want to believe

they're supposed to be in lack, you get to keep every belief you want to have. So have it. That's great. As for me in my health, though, we're going to prosper. We're going to do well. And we're going to bless people. We're going to keep feeding people. We're going to keep clothing people. We're going to keep turning out new six and seven figure earners. We're going to keep doing that because what I've discovered is that when I can empower somebody financially, it changes everything about their lives. They're better their lives, their husbands, they're just generally better because this big weight that many people have in their finances that drives a lot of unfortunately negative behavior. Thank you for that answer.

Many people finance, you know, approach financing or struggle financially, right? Not because of income, but because of structure. What do you see as the most common financial mistake that people make? You know what? I would say lifestyle inflation. that because I make more, I have to spend more. I learned something and it's in the book. So I wrote the book, The Art of Getting Your Finances in Order, Making Money Moves.

I wrote that book after building is a very successful business, doing extremely well, investment property, you name it, doing extremely well, and watching that all change just like that. From a Friday to a Monday, it literally changed just like that. We have millions of dollars. Change negatively or change positively? Oh, negative. I mean, we have millions of dollars of volumes in. loans waiting to be done, waiting to be processed, which is hundreds of thousands of dollars in

commissions, right? And so on Friday, everything's good. The number one bank that we used is in Southern California. On the weekend, that bank is shut down. On Monday, we said, what's going to happen with all this? And then we'll just put it with another bank. Well, literally, it been end dominole. So every day, it was like blood in the water. It was just a crazy thing. So I said, how am I going to, what did I learn from this? And one of the lessons I learned is keeping my fixed cost. load, removing the desire to spend more because I have more. I think a lot of the struggle that people have, once they begin to succeed or to do well, is that they begin to constantly increase what they spend.

And listen, it's not saying don't enjoy your money, don't enjoy your life, don't enjoy what you work for. Do you want that because you want it or you want that because so-and-so has it? Or you think you have to compete with somebody else. I literally keep my expenses. Today, literally, I don't keep them much further, my fixed expenses. Now, obviously you have inflation, things like that. But outside of that, they are literally virtually the same levels they were about 20 years ago when I reasonably would do that.

That's fantastic. So from a faith-based and practical standpoint, what does it really mean to have your finances in order? Yeah. I think, one, being able to have the ability to call the shots, not having to worry about money. I think number two, again, both faith and finance, it's really. they recognize that, okay, I've been empowered to empower. So what is the thing? Who are the people that I'm supposed to help empower? Not only they want to call the shots, but I want to help people, other people to be able to do that for themselves. In addition to that, I would say

being able to have a trajectory, a plan, a pattern for what am I going to do to continue to scale this and to increase this? Because I think one thing that happens is money itself isn't the end. It's a tool. It's a resource. And I think if you make it the end, then this is where you see people who become very successful financially and they begin to spiral out. They begin to have these negative life experiences because the goal was money, money, money, money. Okay, but once I get it, what am I doing with it? This has to be a tool for something else, not an end to itself. Yeah, let's take a look at this from a, so that's, you know, that's for like the tool.

And I agree with you, right? Like money's like a brick, right? You can use bricks to build a house or you can use bricks to throw them through a car window, right? I mean, you know, and so it's like, how are you going to use this? You can use it for its potential positively or are you going to use it negatively? But there's another piece here, though, because right now a lot of people are just scared, right? And so a lot of people may not even be able to put themselves in the position where they're thinking like, well, I have money. Now how do I use it as a good resource?

Because I went to the grocery store last night and I only have myself and my daughter, my two cats and my dog to buy for. And it was like for maybe a week. And $300 later, I don't. don't even feel like I got groceries. Right? Now, I'm fortunate that that doesn't make me struggle that much, right? Yet I haven't always been in that situation in my life. And there's times where, oh my goodness, you're paying 300 bucks for not even a week's worth of groceries for a small family.

You know, if I was on a fixed income, that would cross me. So what do you have to speak to the people right now that are have a relationship with money where there's just not enough? I mean, what are your thoughts on that? Yeah. You know what? I said what I know what I know what it is to be there. And that's, you know, going through a valley and walking to that, I know what it is to be there.

I know what it is. I had a $20, Terrell Davis for those, like football fans, he was a running bat for the Broncos and the Super Bowls. And I had a dollar bill autograph by him and a $20 bill autographed by him. And I remember going through a valley and I went through the valley, it's, it's I eat or I keep just Terrell Davis $20 autograph bill. I know what it is to say, well, this is not a choice. Here you go, Mr. Food, man. I think I got a pizza or something, whatever. Here you go.

Here's the pizza because I can make it last. Here's the money for that. There you go, and there goes my autographed field. So I know what it is to be there. So I don't speak from this place where I've never had to go there. Number two, I think, and you mentioned the word earlier, structurally, like, okay, I'm just scared. I'm worried about it.

I know I was in the grocery store the other day, and I got like 13 items. It was like $130. What did I get? So I get that. I think at the end of the day, one, you got to flip your mentality. You can have a scarcity mentality or an abundance mentality. You can have the mentality of this is going to run out or I know how to get this. I know how to get more of this.

I know how to produce more of this. You mentioned fixed income. To some extent, like everybody has some level of a fixed income, right? Granted, you said, well, if you do this business, you can make as much as you want. Well, theoretically, anybody can add any business or any new cash flow stream and do that. To some extent, everybody has some structure, generally speaking, to their finances. And I think, one, switching the mentality to say abundance, I made this, I can make more. Two, really evaluating, just goes back to what I mentioned, things structurally do I need to do

so that I can take the pressure off so that I'm not feeling like this. Meaning, for example, maybe I need to reduce expenses in another area. Maybe I need to chop a few things right now so that I feel good. Maybe I need to shop around. I made one car insurance change that saved me $400 a month just a few weeks ago because I said, this is too much money you spend on car insurance. And it doesn't matter, you know, what level you're at, constantly scanning and surveying to say, what can I fix structurally?

So one, put to mindset abundance. I made this. I can make more. Two, what can I fix structurally so that I'm not scared because I've reduced my expenses so much that literally I'm not trying to compete with anybody. I'm not trying to impress anybody. And that was a thing that I think everybody has to go through that moment where you just have to say, I could care less what somebody else thinks about me. I want to live a life that I enjoy and I'm not up stressing over money.

Yeah, I think there's also some some big wins that are easily overlooked. Things like, you know, am I going to go spend eight bucks for a couple of coffee at Starbucks? Or could I, you know, buy a can of coffee beans for, you know, three times as much. But now I've got, you know, I don't know how many, you know, how many, you know, many cups that will buy me but dramatically decrease your investment uh your your cost rather it's not an investment but your cost of coffee um or for example um do i really need hulu apple paramount netflix HBO showtime etc or maybe reduce that to two of them and then just sort of rotate you know that that's one of the things one of the habits that i have so just taking a look at like

day-to-day way that you're that you're spending your money and how can i read that with zero impact on me because I'm just as satisfied and somewhat more satisfied with a cup of coffee from my pot upstairs than if I go down the road for the Starbucks. And I can't watch Netflix and Prime at the same time. Yep. Only one at the time, right? So I can click that one subscription for two months and then, you know, go through all the, you know, the binge watch and then, you know, flip it to next, right? So there's ways to be able to adapt without having a negative. What are your thoughts about that. I agree. I think that's what I'm saying with the structural. It's, it's like, this isn't bad. Like, this isn't, you know, it doesn't mean I have to be suffering.

It just means I just do it different. Now, let me tell you, I do this to this day. And people, you know, sometimes people around or some of my team, they see how ganglia I am about this, but I am this way, like going. And again, this is the principle I learned in the book. And again, keeping those fixed costs low, as you just mentioned, like, if this isn't something that adds value or something that's going to help me create value, like what, like, you know what i i don't need this um and learning to live without the things that we've told ourselves that we need so i'm a big bun like to your point i can't watch netflix and prime so you know what at the end of the day prime gives me more just me personally prime gives me more benefit that's my

amazon shopping and that's amazon prime you know the tv and that's the music part so to me this has a a higher level of benefit and i've had people said oh it's only 10 dollars only 20 i said that thinking is exactly why you're worried about money and i'm not worried about money. I said because my approach doesn't mean that I'm better or it's just different. My approach is I'm going to, if it's not necessary, it's not going to add value or create value. It's cut it. Talked about the way that you think a few times. I'm curious, how does mindset influence financial outcomes sometimes even more than circumstance? What do you thought about that? Yeah, I think mindset's everything. Like, you know, you've heard the saying it's not the size of the dog and the fight.

It's the size of the fight the dog. And I think that just speaks to mindset. Mindset is simply, another word for would be attitude. What's your attitude? It's your set a way of thinking. It's the way that you've decided I'm going to think about this. And there's like four different attitude dispositions, positive attitude. Think of a plane in the sky. Everybody pays attention to their planes. Your planes actually fly at a little bit of a tilt. The nose is in an upward position so that the wind can get up under the wings and that creates the lift. Which means that's what a positive attitude is. I choose to just look at it in a way that keeps me lifted. I can be negative and cynical and I could do that.

I could do do do doomsday with you all day long, but I choose to have a positive attitude. I'm not in denial of reality. I'm just in denial that that reality has to become my reality. I deny that that has to be where I live and how I believe and how I view it. I have the opposite of paranoia. It's called prognoy.

It's literally a psychological term. And it just says, I have believed that there's a conspiracy in the world to benefit me. All things work together for my good, positive attitude. You can believe everybody. against you fine I choose to believe that everything works together for my good negative attitude nose down pretty self-explanatory a neutral attitude I don't care I'm numb it's interesting because that's how planes fall out of the sky is

that when they lose their note their proper nose position what happens is they lose that lift and it literally just fall out of the sky and when you're neutral you fall whether you know it or not and then the craziest attitude is called sikk-k-k-E-N and it literally means that you're negative about positive you're like an erratic all over the place type of attitude something good happens you're like yeah but what about this i have such a negative disposition about good things and that mindset you have to pick which of those four those are choices we get to make and when you fix and shift that mindset i'll be positive and i'm going to believe that things are working for my good and i have an abundance mentality i made that i can make

some more it shifts life because it just makes it life is going to be difficult don't don't take anything I'm saying to say you're not going to have some challenges, but pick your heart. Being negative is hard, being positive is hard. Pick your heart. Are there some limiting beliefs that you see a comment? I mean, I know that, you know, as a leader, as a bishop and, you know, as an organizer, entrepreneur, that you have the opportunity to really observe others and guide others and lead others. And so do you find common limiting beliefs around money that you see that are the most common that hold people back? Oh, yeah.

So what are they? Yeah, I see tons. Number one, I think just back to that, just the negative mentality. Everything's negative, everything's always me, everything's I'm a victim. Number two, the belief that they don't deserve it. I don't deserve good things. I made some mistakes and I don't deserve that. I think that's another negative mindset, negative belief that holds back.

Number three, it's too hard for me. Like there's this old saying, this proverb that says, it's not Bible, it's just, I don't know who said it, but I heard it and I've said it so much it's mine now. They muddy the water so you think it's deep. Like a lot of this stuff isn't deep. It just seems, it's not hard. It just seems hard. You know, I think over-complicating things, over-analyzing things, thinking that, well, you know what,

I don't know enough information. I'm not prepared yet. Sometimes you just got to go. And as you go, what you need is going to catch up to you. I always say to people, you know, again, especially from a spiritual standpoint, God starts with go. There's a bias towards action. There's a bias towards doing something. Like we look at people who achieve great things and they go, they must be so smart. They must be so this. Often, they just go. While you were sitting there planning it out for 45

weeks, they did it. And it made five mistakes that have now reaching a million people doing it. And you're still sitting there working on your plan. That doesn't knock your plan. It just means sometimes you just have to be a goer. Yeah. Well, a plan in action is going to always, a poor plan in action is going to always beat a great plan not in action and you get the opportunity to adjust right so there's nothing that we do in life or rarely are there things i mean i'm sure there are things but rarely are the things in life that we do that we can't make adjustments to and so you know just go and then you know if you make a mistake well for me there's only one mistake in life and that's that's missing the learning opportunity so i don't really believe as as

mistakes per se. I think a mistake is to have something happen that you don't want to have happen and then you can have the opportunity to learn from it. But if you choose not to learn from it, that's the mistake. I agree. It's not whatever actually happened. It's like, did you learn from it and then adjust moving forward? And when you can approach life like that, there are no mistakes unless we choose not to learn. And now it's about growth. And it's like, man, I wish I didn't do that yet that happened, I did it and what could I learn from it? It's a different view point. Yeah, but see, that's just like we were talking about mindset. That mindset is what keeps you moving. That's why you're experiencing the success you're experiencing, reaching people doing the

things you do because it's that mindset. Somebody else can go through the same set of things and be sitting, oh, woe is me. I can't believe this. You know, when are things going to get better for me, change that mindset. Let's give some practical advice for our audience. So if someone listening in a day feels that they're financially stuck and we touch on this a little bit right but i'm looking you know for like something very very specific what's the very first step that that person can take i think if you're feeling stuck um one address why you feel stuck because feelings aren't facts so sometimes you can feel a thing and that thing is not true um you know i saw this interesting study they said most millionaires feel broke most people are trying to become

millionaire you know that's their goal and the study said that most millionaires over 50% report that they feel broke. They feel like they don't have enough. The data says otherwise. Number one, I think you got to evaluate what it is that you feel to see if what you feel is a fact. And I think that addresses most of that. Secondly, a person that feels stagnant financially is actually take a look at your finances and see where you're at really.

Most of the times, once we go dig into the data, the data tells us something different than what we think it is, than what we believe it is. So go look at your finances and see. Are you stuck or have you already done more in, you know, last year than you did the previous year? Have you already done more, you know, year over year than you did before? Because often the way you feel about it is that real? That would happen to me. Every 15th, when I would get the financials forum by different businesses, companies, whatever I have, I would get finances that they all do the 15th of the proceeding month.

And I would look and I would think, oh, what's going on? And then you over here, I'd be like, oh, away. This is amazing. But something in me always used to. you know, go to that place. So dig into the data to see where you really stand. And then thirdly, begin to evaluate ways that if you're feeling stuck, what can I do to add something here? And most of the times when we think of adding or increasing income, we think of another company or another job or another this. Sometimes you just need to integrate into what you're doing, a new stream. For example,

let's say you own a laundromat. When your laundromat, you know, you've got, you know, it's pretty structured business model, your, you know, the machines and that type of thing. Okay, well, let's add a vending machine in there. Let's add, let's add a subscription service. Let's add some low-hanging fruit. Let's get it. See, here's my mind. Let's get an equipment loan so you're not directly dealing with that out of pocket to where you have a delivery service, that's subscription base, where you get enough subscriptions to pay for it in advance, pre-sell the subscriptions before you ever go get the car. So now you've got that money already. Like, my mom, mind goes there. There's ways to vertically integrate things into what you already do to increase streams.

So I can have to go get a whole new job, start a whole new company. Sometimes you have to look at what can I add to what I'm doing that adds to my bottom. I love that advice. One of the things that I coach people on is, is to sit there and say, listen, I want you to take a day, take out a sheet of paper and write down all the ways you could make money, whether if you want to or not, you know, can you rent out a spare bedroom uh can you drive an uber can you open up a new business can you get a second job um whatever it may be right and and and without the the the judgment of what you're willing to do and what you're not willing to do and as though if there is an answer and so if you if you are struggling financially i'd say take out a piece of paper take a day or two and just write down every single freaking thing that

comes into your mind without judgment now you got a list of maybe 10 to 50 things. And now you can start sitting there saying, okay, here's the way that I could be able to bring in a, you know, a little bit of extra cash. Now, which of these, you know, works for me and then make a choice. Absolutely. Yeah. And you know what I love about that too, what you said is the judgment of it. Because sometimes we pre-decide before we even have enough information to decide. Like, I'll never be able to do that. I can never do that. I think that's such a profound and simple, but most solutions are simple. They're not that hard. Again, we muddy the water, so we think it's deep.

I know you haven't read my book Teach to Sell yet. Yet in the book, there's a concept that I go through in each of the chapters of what I call a pre-decision compass. And it's interesting, you said that you pre-decide. And so again, another thing that I teach and what we teach and teach to sell is to say, you're going to think about like a situation in the future and pre-decide now how you're going to handle that before it happens so that when it does, does happen that you've already been very, very like thoughtful and you don't have any emotions

when you then have to make that decision, whether that has to be with finances, with the relationships, with leadership, whatever the case may be. Now, what I just said is a little bit different than what you just said, because what you just said was about pre-deciding that may be something subconsciously you're pre-deciding that may not serve you. Maybe you're not choosing that pre-decision, right? So it's usually sort of like a negative context. And I'm using it as like, okay, well, if we're going to pre-decide stuff. And if we're going to be in a situation we're going to have hard stuff happen, why don't we intentionally pre-decide? Why don't we thoughtfully pre-decide? And now we've got a framework, you know, so that when we get in that situation, our emotions aren't,

you know, aren't competing with our logic. Yeah. And you know, and I love that. And here's two different things. I'll pull them together. I think one of the things that I put this in my, I literally write this in my notes because, you know, sometimes the number one reason planes fall. And this is, you know, infatuation with aviation. My late grandfather was a pilot in the airport. Hold on. Time out real quick. I just was on a plane two days ago. So I'm glad we had this conversation today. Yes. And not three days ago, right? I'm just saying. I got you. Listen, I'm always on planes. And it's crazy because I literally, I will be on a plane watching one of these shows called

the air, the air, the air, something like that, where they go over all these planes present. I have this infatuation for it. My father, my grandfather was a pilot in the Air Force. And And so I just had this infatuation. But it was interesting to me, the number one reason that planes crash is because pilots forget their training when they're under pressure. It's not mechanical. It's not whether.

It's that a human being has a human moment that they were trained for to pre-decide how to respond. But in that moment, they forget it. And so I bring that up to say, I write this note in my notes and I look at it every day. That for me, one of the predecessors I make, so here's the two worlds converging. I pre-decide that everything is a green light for me,

unless I get a divine red light. So like most people live their lives with one foot on the gas and one foot on the brake, constantly being their own throttle stopping themselves and being their brakes and stopping themselves. And so one of the predecessors for me is that I have decided that if it's gonna change lives, it's a green light for me all day, every day.

That I don't need to go, let me pray about that, let me think about that. It's a green light. Now, there may be some nuance that needs to be addressed to it, but it's a green light. I've pre-decided to just drive instead of living my life constantly, stopping and going.

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