No Lie with Brian Tyler Cohen - Attorney General Todd Blanche gets the ultimate Trump reward

Episode Date: June 4, 2026

Todd Blanche gets the ultimate payday from Trump. Brian interviews ranking member of the House Oversight Committee Robert Garcia and the Democratic nominee for the US Senate in Iowa, Josh Turek.Pre-order The Day After: https://www.harpercollins.com/pages/thedayafterSupport Josh Turek: https://turek4iowa.com/Written by Brian Tyler CohenProduced by Sam GraberRecorded in Los Angeles, CASee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Deputy Attorney General Todd Blanche gets the ultimate reward from Trump, and I've got two interviews, the ranking member of the House Oversight Committee, Robert Garcia, and the Democratic nominee for the U.S. Senate in Iowa, Josh Turrick. I'm Brian Tyler Cohen, and you're listening to No Lie. So we have all watched as Todd Blanche performed for an audience of one during this week's congressional hearings, pretending that the immunity deal that he signed for Trump that would prevent the federal government from ever auditing him or his family again was somehow not exactly what it is,

pretending that the DOJ is complying with the Epstein Files Transparency Act, even though they've sat on three million documents. If you watch that and thought, this is clearly an audition, not only were you right, but it looks like Todd Blanche booked the role. Trump came out into the Rose Garden and made this announcement. He's acting attorney general.

Tomorrow, I'm instructing Dan and everybody else that's involved in that very complicated process, which is going to go, I think, very quickly, that we are going to make him permanent attorney general. And of course, Blanche had this. to say in response. Obviously, I'm honored and humbled that the President indicated he is going to nominate me today.

I was with him last night at the dinner when he said that. I was confirmed a year ago to be the Deputy Attorney General. I still have the Deputy Attorney General. I will work with the Senators. I have a good relationship with the Senate of both sides. I don't say no to phone calls. I'll meet with anybody that wants to meet with me. And I think the work that this department has been doing since President Trump took office,

If you look at any staff across the board, it's much better. We're much safer. Our communities are better off. Drugs are coming off the streets. And that's what President Trump expects. And that's, frankly, what I think everybody in this country expects. So I'm looking forward to working with the senators and getting them the information they need through the confirmation process. Now, you'll notice that Blanche says, I don't say no to phone calls.

I meet with anybody who wants to meet with me, which may be true as far as politicians are concerned. But you know one group of people who haven't benefited from that courtesy? The Epstein survivors. In fact, in the aftermath of this comment by Todd Blanche, the survivors themselves released a statement saying, quote, survivors have repeatedly sought meetings with DOJ leadership, including acting AG Blanche and his predecessor, Pam Bondi, to explain how the release process has failed survivors,

identify problems with redactions and withheld records, and see clear answers about what the DOJ intends to do next. Those requests have gone unanswered. DOJ cannot keep asking survivors for information while refusing to meet with the very people offering it, failing to review the leads they have identified or even provide clear answers about what has been done with the evidence in the files.

Additionally, the DOJ's post on X calling a woman hysterical for demanding that obvious leads be pursued is insulting, unsurious, and revealing. Survivors and their advocates are not being hysterical. They are asking the DOJ to do its job. Review the evidence, pursue credible leads, meet with the people who have come forward and provide honest answers about what has been withheld

and why. acting AG Todd Blanche and the DOJ cannot continue to claim it is protecting victims while refusing to meet with survivors, failing to explain what it has done with their evidence, and dismissing legitimate outrage as hysteria. But the truth is that Blanche didn't get the promotion, in spite of his actions toward the Epstein situation. He got the promotion because of it. It is his shameless advocacy for Trump and his willingness to lie with abandon as it relates to Epstein. That got Blanche the job.

because at the end of the day, the role of Attorney General, as far as Trump is concerned, is not there to serve as the top law enforcement official for the country, it is there to serve as the top law enforcement official for Trump. And as his former personal criminal defense attorney, that's clearly a role that Blanche feels comfortable in. And I'll even concede Blanche is slick. He can lie as easily as he breathes. He can sit in a congressional hearing and say that the DOJ has fully complied with

the Epstein-Files Transparency Act when it has obviously not. He can go on podcasts and say stuff like this. There's not, I mean, listen, I'm not trying to defend Epstein. I'm not. And I do defend the work that this department is doing today right now, which is going after every single perpetrator anywhere. And if there's a narrative that exists that we're ignoring Epstein victims, that is false.

They know that every victim, and I'll say it again right now, if you were a victim, if you're a victim's lawyer, you can contact the FBI, you can contact the Department of Justice. And we will do everything we can to investigate anything that you have to say. When it's obviously not true, according to the survivors themselves. But that's why he's there because he is shameless, because he is not hindered by any allegiance to truth or decency. He is a hack attorney looking out for his criminal client no matter what title he holds. And so long as he can do exactly that, Trump gets what he needs.

He gets somebody to protect him from his obvious implication with Epstein and to do so with confidence, just like the rest of his cabinet is in place not because they're competent, but because A, they're loyal to him, and B, they can perform on TV, that's it. It's just optics. Pete Hegseth is not there because he is capable of overseeing the military. He's there because he was a weekend anchor on Fox. John Duffy was a reality TV star. Donald Trump is looking for empty suits to put on a performance for him.

That is the cabinet he assembled. So while I'm not surprised that Todd Blanche will be nominated, it's a testament to the rot that has pervaded this administration. And while Democrats don't control the Senate, hopefully even a few Republican senators can recognize the obvious fact that Todd Blanche is not there to uphold the law or the Constitution, but rather to protect his client. And if they have even a modicum of concern for the Epstein survivors,

they would keep this person as far from the levers of power as humanly possible. Before we head over to interviews, just a quick announcement, my new book, The Day After, How to Weield Power in a Post-Trump World, is now available for pre-order. I'm also going on a book tour to D.C., New York, Chicago, San Francisco, and Los Angeles, all on the week of July 14th. So if you're available to either come, say hi, in person at my book tour, or grab a copy of my new book, that is a great way to support my work.

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redirected attention onto Todd Blanche. So can you speak a little bit about Todd Blanche's culpability in this as it pertains to Pam Bondi's own testimony. Look, I think first, look, Pam Bondi was the Attorney General. At the end of the day, she's responsible for what happened at the Department of Justice.

Obviously, when she came in to interview with us, it was after she had been essentially fired by Trump for being AG. And it was just really striking how over 30 times she deflected blame the Todd Blanche. So why were the redactions made mistakes in Survivor's Doc?

Well, that's a Todd Blanche at the redactions. Why was the files miss, you know, three million documents still missing. Well, Todd Blanche is in charge of, was in charge of the Epstein files? Why was Galane Maxwell moved? I have no idea. Ask Todd Blanche. And so, look, when the, when the transcript and the full transcript is reviewed by everyone, I think it's very clear that she is deflecting to Todd Blanche. So we need to talk to to Todd Blanche. And at the same time, Pan Bondi wouldn't take responsibility. I mean, I asked her directly five separate times questions about President Trump, what he knew,

if he directed anything, and she refused to answer any questions about President Trump. In fact, she had a Department of Justice lawyer next to her basically telling her not to answer the question. So it was pretty clear that she's part of this cover-up and that she's putting blame on Todd Blanche. What rationale is there for the DOJ to have a lawyer with Pam Bondi? If Pam Bondi is no longer at the DOJ, she's there in her capacity as a private citizen, it was Pam Bondi, who was who was called in to testify, not the attorney general, because she's no longer the attorney general. And so what grounds is there for the DOJ to even be involved in that transcribed interview? So we actually raised the exact questions with James Comer and the DOJ, no response.

James Comer has the ability as the chair to allow the rules of the TI. We've found it to be highly unusual and unethical for a DOJ lawyer who currently works for the DOJ, also serve as private counsel to Pam Bondi. And especially when that lawyer was turning to Pam Bondi and basically telling her, don't answer that question or responding on her behalf. And when I mentioned President Trump, this lawyer would basically say,

you know, we're not answering those questions about President Trump. So it's obviously pretty clear what's going on here. They're controlling the testimony. And at the same time, Bondi wants to deflect all this to acting AG Todd Blanche. So frustrating, but also really clear that Pam Bondi won't answer questions about President Trump. We want to know why. And it puts the blame on Blanche for the investigation.

So I had mentioned that this was a transcribed interview and this wasn't a closed door deposition. So can you speak about the difference between a transcribed interview and an actual deposition and why this was the interview and not the deposition? So the deposition has much stricter ground rules. And so a deposition would almost always be under oath. It would be oftentimes videotaped in release to the public. There's strict ground rules about the amount of time and the length of depositions. You essentially are compelled to answer every question that you're asked.

A transcribed interview is oftentimes not under oath. It's oftentimes not videotaped. You're not compelled to answer these questions in the same way. And so it was pretty clear that Comer wanted to give Pam Bondi a pass. I mean, he could have made this a deposition, and he chose not to do it. And unfortunately, the majority and the chair have the power to set the rules of these depositions and these interviews. And so James Scumer continues to play cover for the White House. Pan Bondi should have been both under oath and that should have been, quite frankly,

it should have been a hearing with the public there in the room. And of course, we don't see that because I think a lot of these folks are being protected. What possible rationale could there be for James Comer to not have this be an actual deposition under oath other than like, you know, the obvious, which I think we can all see, which is that the Republican Party, all of these members of the Republican Party are engaged in this cover up. But what rationale is there not to have this thing under oath? Well, there isn't one. I mean, you just said it right there. There's no real reason for doing it this way. I think his reasoning was because she's no longer the Attorney General. I mean, that's BS. Hillary Clinton was no longer the Secretary of State when she was deposed when there was a clear transcript of that interview, that videotape that was blasted all across the country. So he could have videotaped this. He could have set rules that were much more strict. He really chose not to. He was blasted. And I think it points to this broader Republican Party that continues to play cover-up for the president and for the White House. Can you speak about some action that you're taking as it relates to Bondi Patel and Blanche? So we've formally requested to Comer to bring in both Blanche and Cash Patel.

Cash Patel was actually mentioned also by the former AG multiple times as someone who kind of oversaw the redactions piece. and the FBI agents that were brought in and how certain things would get redacted and so forth. And so clearly she continued to mention both our names. And so we told James Comer, look, we've got to talk to both of them as part of this broader investigation. And so that request has been made. We have yet to hear from him on that.

But we need them to come in. And if not, we're going to make efforts, of course, to try to get bipartisan subpoenas in place. They've got to come in and testify about the Epson investigation. Going back to Todd Blanche, you know, something that was striking was when he was testifying just a couple of days ago, I believe he was speaking with Representative Dean and basically just defiantly claimed that the DOJ had complied with the Epstein Files Transparency Act,

that they had released all of the documents that the law required them to release. It is as clear and egregious a lie as you can possibly make. I mean, there are three million files that have been released, three to three and a half million files still remain hidden. And yet, and yet Todd Blanche, the acting attorney general, just seems not to want to acknowledge that objective reality. And so it doesn't seem like that is the behavior of somebody who intends on releasing the rest of these files.

And so what happens next? Like, I feel like we're at an impasse where you have the DOJ that's just opted not to comply with the law. And you have a criminal defense attorney of the former president who continues to serve in that job as opposed to the one he's at. actually acting in, which is the attorney general. Look, I think what happens next is we have to continue to put pressure on Todd Blanche to do the right thing to release the remainder of the files. The survivors are asking for that.

We have to continue to bring in and interview folks. Look, over the next few weeks, we've got we've got people that are coming in that we are interviewing former Epstein employees, folks like Bill Gates, who's coming in here pretty soon in the next, within the next, like, 10 to 12 days. So there are important interviews that we're going to have to try to get more information about what actually happened. But the public pressure is really important. I mean, you see what happened right now with the slush fund that Trump tried to do. There was so much public pressure and the court stepped in and did the right thing. The same is happening through the Epson investigation. There's numerous lawsuits that have been filed by both private citizens as well as

good government organizations. There are numerous efforts by the Congress to pass new laws as well to really get to the truth. And we've got to ensure that they comply with the law and subpoenaing that have already been passed, but they have yet to do so. So even if that takes us getting into the majority to actually get the subpoenas in place, compel people to testify, we're going to do whatever it takes to get convictions so the survivors actually get justice. And that's the part I want to dig into a little bit here. Talk about how things would look differently if Democrats win the midterms and we have

chairman Garcia leading the House Oversight Committee as opposed to James Comer. I mean, well, first, we're actually going to subpoena all of the folks that were in Epstein circle. We're going to bring back folks like Alice Acosta and put them under oath. We're going to bring back folks like Pam Bondi. We're going to have Todd Blanche in front of us. We're going to make sure that people are in hearings. We're going to have real oversight hearings on the Epstein files, which we have not had. There have been no hearings on the Epstein files that James Comer has actually scheduled. We've had to have shadow hearings. We've had to collect testimony ourselves. People deserve to be heard and they deserve

to be a real investigation, and we've said that we don't really care who is essentially called out here. We don't care who has to face justice, whether they're a Republican or a Democrat. We just want justice for the survivors and for the truth to come out about why the cover-up and who abused these women and girls. Last question on this, and that is, let's say that these subpoenas are issued, and Todd Blanche, Pam Bondi, Alex Acosta, Cash Patel refused to comply with these subpoenas. and the DOJ refuses to hold any of those people to account for their failure to comply with congressional subpoenas.

What happens next? Look, I think we begin the process that we did for Pam Bondi. I mean, Pam Bondi, we were going to force a contempt resolution on the floor of the House. Later that day, she agreed to testify. If we have to hold people in contempt of Congress, which has multiple different types of consequences, we're going to move forward and do that. And so we're going to have, hopefully, that majority, to get those votes to hold folks in contempt. But first, we're going to need to get the truth.

We're going to have real hearings. We're going to have to make those tough requests. We're going to have real subpoenas and get people to testify under oath. I can't emphasize enough how important it is for people to know that can't lie to Congress. You've got to be honest with the American public. We'll leave it there. Congressman, thank you for your leadership on this issue for not letting it slip by the wayside as James Comer is trying to do. And thanks for your time today.

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say that for variety reasons. First and foremost, Iowa is in play because we are a state that has really bottomed out. We are dead last for economic growth. I mean, 50th out of all 50 states. We are 48th per personal income growth. We are one of two states already in an economic decline. We're basically dead last for every single health care metric, OBGYNs, rule hospital quality, mental health providers, mental health supports. We state that we've closed 250 more health care clinics and we've opened in the last 15 years. We're the only state with a growing cancer rates, second highest rates behind only Kentucky. And now we're leading the nation in foreign foreclosures because of the Trump tariffs. Then you add that into the fact that there's no power of

incumbency. This is the first time since 1968. You've got an open Senate seat together with an open governor's race and two open congressional races. And this is a state in Iowa where in Trump's first midterm, we won three of the four congressional races. We are three points away from winning all four, you know, the state that twice voted for Obama three times for Trump. We have more Obama-Trump counties than any other state in the union. And in our last midterm, 2022, which was not a good year for Democrats, we were only 1.5 percent away from having three of our six statewide officials being Democrats. So that means your average Iowa voter went to the polls and voted for three R's and 3Ds. You add that into as well. You've got great candidates like myself and I think our

gubernatorial candidate, Rob Sand, with proven results of being able to win in red areas and win over independence and moderate Republicans. And then lastly, I would say you look at what they've done with federal policy, what people like Ashley Hinson had voted for, 110,000 Iowans to lose their health care, thousands more to lose their food assistance just to give tax breaks to billionaires, There's 119,000 Iowans seeing their health care premiums double or triple. Henson voted four times in favor of the tariffs, which have decimated our rural communities and led us leading the nation in farm foreclosures. And she's somebody that is a multimillionaire that's 10 times more wealthy in her time in D.C.

And only six years initially didn't support a ban on members of Congress owning and trading stock. She has not looked out for Iowa and Iowans are ready for change in a real way. And so what differentiates Iowa from a raft of other states that also have poor metrics? I mean, we look at the South, for example, a state like Mississippi is ranked either 49th or 50th in almost every metric there is. There's full Republican control. And yet that state very often continues to just vote Republicans in statewide. And so I think a lot of people kind of just get used to the fact that once there is kind of some

prescribed political affiliation in a state, it stays that way regardless of the outcomes. And so why is Iowa different from these other states that have poor metrics, but keep electing Republicans regardless? Two reasons. I would say again, we have completely hit the bottom. And I think oftentimes you really have to hit the bottom, a state like Kansas, for example, where you finally hit the bottom and people are willing to wake up. I also would say that, you know, the Trump tariffs have really hurt Iowa the most, even this war in Iran. I mean, we are upside down on commodities prices. You go into these rural communities and you talk to farmers. The word that we hear the most is betrayal. Trump administration gives $20 billion to Argentina. Meanwhile, our Iowa soybean farmers are

upside down. You look at the war in Iran. I was paying huge price for this conflict. We've already had three Iowans lose their life. We're spending a billion dollars a day over there. And meanwhile, we're closing schools and hospitals here in Iowa. And then what we already were having issues with input prices, because we've done nothing to address vertical integration and what we're seeing with monopolies on input prices, then the war in Iran is making it even more difficult for farmers to be able to afford fertilizer.

And so these are issues that really, really, really affect Iowans. And then lastly, I just think that, you know, Iowa hasn't, fundamentally shifted. We're an older state. We're a state that at our essence, we're the third state to legalize gay marriage, one of the very first states to desegregate our schools. We're a state that, you know, in Trump's last midterm, had three of the four congressional races being Democrats, 30 years had Senator Harkin, the father of the American with Disabilities Act. I think we have a long history of electing the better candidates. And so we're not one of these deeply red states. We have a long history of being a blue state, a purple state, and at times

a red state. And that's why I say, we're not a red state. We're a common-sense state that is masqueraded more red, and Iowans are ready for change now in a real way. In your conversations with voters, I'm particularly interested in conversations that you've had with lifelong Republicans or independents, people who wouldn't normally vote for Democrats. Has there been any instances anecdotal, though they may be, that kind of serve as a good microcosm for the broader environment? Yeah, lots of them. I am the Democrat that represents the Redis District that was won on Election Day.

And so the two communities that I represent, Carter Lake, Trump won by 18 points in my hometown and community of Council Bluffs. He won by 10 points. I was able to win my district by nearly six points. And I won that every single by every single day going out, rain or shine, hot or cold and dragging my wheelchair upstairs to have conversations with people. And I would go there and I would hear over and over and over people telling me, you know, I can't afford my grocery prices. I can't afford to keep gas in the tank. And I don't feel like people in Washington feel this issue or looking out for me.

And I would tell them, look, I'm one of you. I understand what you're feeling economically. I'm someone that comes from a family where we went to the goodwill, we shared clothes, had the wrong color lunch tickets, went to the free summer lunch programs, gone through enormous amount of health care adversity, 21 surgeries before I was 12 years old, say, I want to go up here, not for the prestige and position, but because we need more folks that are actually going to go up there and work for the working class, for the middle class that's being hollowed out. And I would hear over and over and over from Republicans, they would say, I'm not going to vote for every single Democrat, but I like your version of Democrat, this Democrat that is focusing on cost, corruption, on kitchen table issues. And that's our way forward. I fundamentally believe it in a state like Iowa. It is on common sense, prairie populism. And that's what I'm going to dig into here. What is it that you actually want to achieve in Washington? What would you like to see Democrats make their priority once they get there? we've spent a lot of time talking about the viability of a Democrat being able to win in this environment. But once you're there, I mean, the ability for people to continue voting for you relies upon you actually holding true to your promises. We're seeing that happen in kind of the

opposite way right now where Trump came into office promising to lower costs and protect health care and bring down inflation and release the Epstein files and really have an America First agenda. He's done the polar opposite. He's cut health care, cut food assistance, sent the cost of everything surging thanks to his trade war, engaged in a war that he swore he would never engage in, and that's raised the price of gas for everybody around the country. And of course, there's a systematic cover-up of those same Epstein file. So people can clearly see that those promises aren't being met. But what is it that you want to do once you get to Washington? I want to fight for a livable wage. You want to raise the minimum wage. First bill, I want to sponsor

as a dignity of work. That's going to be to raise the minimum wage federally here in Iowa 725, we can recognize it's not a livable wage. Second would be to do away with 14 C certificates. That's the ability for a for-profit business to pay someone just due to a disability, a sub-minimum wage, and also to bring collective bargaining rights back to every single one of our workers. I want to fight to get private equity out of housing because I think that's the only way we can achieve the American dream. Average age of a first-time home buyer now in this country is 41 years old.

There's no way that you or I or anyone in the middle class can certainly compete with Black Rock and Vanguard and Wall Street. I want to fight to get private equity out of health care. I want to fight to make sure that doctors are deciding care, not insurance companies. I want to fight. I believe that health care is a human right. So I want to fight for a public option to be in place for people. I want to fight for our public schools to address our cancer rates here in Iowa to make sure that we've got drinkable water, but also to address the corruption that we're seeing in D.C. I want to see fundamental campaign finance reform because I say we can have oligarchic, we can have democracy, but we cannot have both. And what we have right now is we have outsized influence from billionaires and large corporations that are paying off our politicians and buying off our elections.

And I want to fight to pass the Disclose Act to make sure that every dollar that's donated to a campaign to a pact with SuperPact is a counter for. Also do everything we can to overturn Citizens United. But then also fight to make sure. we've got ethics reforms, both to members of Congress and in Supreme Court. I'm in favor of term limits banning of members of Congress and their family from owning and trading stocks. And I would like to mandate every single member of Congress has to host at least one annual town hall to be accountable to their constituents. I think if we focus on these issues, the issues that apply to 3.2 million Iowans, cost, corruption, kitchen table issues. That's the way forward in a state

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the governing party right now, what seems to have been the straw that's broken the camel's back for people who are defecting and may have voted for Trump or Republicans before and are now supporting your campaign? You know, as I've been traveling the state, I would hear from lots of folks. You know, here's why I'm supporting Trump, because he's going to bring down our gas prices. He's going to bring down our grocery prices. He's going to bring down the car. He's going to make sure that the American dream continues for me.

when I'm out there in these red communities, I say, I don't vilify these folks. I say, look, I understand why you voted for Trump. He accurately identified that the status quo was not working for you, was not working for the middle class, was not working for rural communities or small family farms. Problem has been every single one of his policies have been faux populism. Yeah. From Trump tax cuts, 85% going to the wealthiest Americans, the most egregious example, the big, beautiful bill. We're here in Iowa. We have 110,000 islands losing their health care, thousands more losing food assistance just to give tax breaks to billionaires. I really think it is that we, Iowans feel like their representatives are only looking out for billionaires, large

corporations, lobbyists, and donors. And we've moved into the second gilded age where the have and have nots. And I think that the problem with D.C. is we've got millionaires, like Ashley Henson, become ten times more wealthy in her time in D.C. We got 73 millionaires in the the United States Senate. And we need more individuals that are going to go up there with lived experience that are going to go up there and actually fight for the people. Why do you presume that the GOP more broadly is willing to stomach so much of this overt corruption right now? I mean, like, you mentioned the Gilded Age. And I think that's the perfect encapsulation of what we're living through right now. Like, you know, the encrusting the Oval

Office in gold, the redoing of the Reflecting. pool, building a Trump arch, this ballroom that, of course, no regular Americans will ever step foot into. You know, we have a Qatari jet that's being retrofitted to the tune of a billion dollars paid for it by taxpayers. Not only is this happening at the hands of somebody who purports to be this populist champion, but the rest of the GOP is allowing this. They're perfectly content to allow all of this to move forward. Maybe we'll have some modicum of pushback you know, a few months before an election, they deigned to actually admit that, hey, maybe a $2 billion slush fund for insurrectionists who are seeking to kill cops on January 6 might not be that

great political optics. But why do you presume the rest of them are allowing this to move forward recognizing how unpopular it is and how bad the optics are? I think they're afraid of political retribution because they've seen what happens when when they lose Trump's endorsement. I mean, you look at, you know, Thomas Massey, for example. Thomas Massey, Bill Cassidy, John Gordon. On and on. And, I mean, unfortunately, we've moved into an imperial executive branch

where we have ceded all the power that should be in the legislature. And, I mean, that's the problem with these overt tribalists that we have up there. They've got to kiss the ring and they've got to fall in line. And this is, again, why we need more individuals like myself that are going to go up there actually say, I don't care about political party. I never have. I really don't care if it's a democratic idea or a Republican idea. I want to go up there and actually fight for bipartisan solutions to people's problems. And my political North Star is not going to have anything to do with leadership. It's exclusively going to be what is going to help the middle class,

what is going to help our workers, what is going to help Iowa and islands. And I think we had more individuals going up there with that mentality in D.C. We could fundamentally change D.C. And we we would have a government that was working for the people again, not just for the billionaires. Well, I think it's clear why your campaign is succeeding. Josh, for those who are looking to help you out as we head toward the general election in November, where can they go? Yeah, they can go to TURIC, TURIC, TURIC, the number four, Iowa, turk for Iowa.com and really do believe, you know, I'm not taking any corporate PAC money

in this, and so we're relying on individual donors, but really believe that this is a once-in-a-generational opportunity that we've got here in Iowa to be able to win Senator Harkin's seat back that we had for 30 years. I'm only here because of his work on the American with Disabilities Act. And then we can once again from Iowa have a senator that is fighting for the people, fighting for the middle class, fighting for social and economic justice and fighting for these social safety nets like Medicare and Medicaid and Social Security that we're seeing hollowed out, not just someone that's out there looking out for the billionaires and the large corporations. We've got enough millionaires up in D.C.

We need people with real experience, lived experience. have struggle both on the economic and the healthcare side, because when you've experienced it, you'll have a different level of empathy and a different level of fight. And this is what we need up in D.C. fighters for the people, and that's what I'll be in the U.S. Senate. And I just want to underscore, like, how big of an opportunity we have right now. As Josh mentioned, there is no power of incumbency right now. These are all open seats. We have an amazing slate of candidates between you, Josh, and Rob Sand running for governor. And if we're able to win here and deliver for people, in subsequent elections will own that power of

incumpancy, but this is the perfect election cycle to be able to do that. So I'm going to put the link to your website right here on the screen and also in the post description of this video. For those who are listening on the podcast, I'm going to throw it into the show notes. For those who are looking to donate, your money goes far in Iowa.

This is not an expensive market in the same way that New York and L.A. and those other states are. And this is a great opportunity to flip some seats that could really make a massive difference moving forward. So with that said, Josh, thanks for taking the time today and best luck in the campaign trail. Hey, thank you for doing this. I've always been a big fan.

And so this was a real pleasure for me to join you today. Thank you. Thank you. Thanks again to Robert Garcia and Josh Turrick. That's it for this episode. Talk to you on Sunday. You've been listening to No Lie with Brian Tyler Cohen. Produced by Sam Graber, music by Wellesie,

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