No Lie with Brian Tyler Cohen - McCarthy overlooks FATAL FLAW in his impeachment inquiry against Biden

Episode Date: September 17, 2023

Kevin McCarthy ignores the fatal flaw in opening an impeachment inquiry against Joe Biden. Brian interviews Democratic candidate for the US Senate in Missouri, Lucas Kunce, about how he can actually defeat Josh Hawley, how Hawley and his wife have spent their careers stripping women of their reproductive rights, and what it would mean for Missouri if a Democrat was the 51st vote in the Senate.Support Lucas Kunce: www.lucaskunce.comRead Dan Pfeiffer's The Message Box: https://www.messageboxnews.com/p/mccarthys-idiotic-plan-to-impeach?utm_source=substack&utm_medium=emailShop merch: https://briantylercohen.com/shopYouTube: https://www.youtube.com/user/briantylercohenTwitter: https://twitter.com/briantylercohenFacebook: https://www.facebook.com/briantylercohenInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/briantylercohenPatreon: https://www.patreon.com/briantylercohenNewsletter: https://www.briantylercohen.com/sign-upWritten by Brian Tyler CohenProduced by Sam GraberRecorded in Los Angeles, CASee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Today, we're going to talk about Kevin McCarthy's fatal flaw in opening an impeachment inquiry against Joe Biden, and I interviewed Democratic candidate for the U.S. Senate in Missouri, Lucas Coontz, about how he can actually defeat Josh Hawley, how Holly and his wife have spent their career stripping women of the reproductive rights, and what it would mean for Missouri if a Democrat was the 51st vote in the Senate. I'm Brian Tyler Cohen, and you're listening to No Lie. So as you know by now, Kevin McCarthy has officially launched an impeachment inquiry into Joe Biden.

And I say Kevin McCarthy launched it because the decision was his and only his, opting to forego a vote on the full house floor. And, of course, the reason that he needed to do that was because he didn't have the votes from his conference. And so he just took matters into his own hands. But here's why what he did screwed himself. In 2020, the Donald Trump-led Justice Department formally declare that impeachment inquiries are invalid unless the entire chamber takes formal votes to authorize them. Here's what the head of the Justice Department's Office of Legal Counsel wrote at the time.

Quote, we conclude that the House must expressly authorize a committee to conduct an impeachment investigation and to use compulsory process in that investigation before the committee may compel the production of documents or testimony. And so this is the current Office of Legal Counsel or OLC guidance that the government is operating under. And so when these House Republicans inevitably seek information from government agencies about Joe and Hunter Biden, which is ostensibly the whole point of this impeachment inquiry. The problem that they're going to run into is that now, because of their own party's new guidance that was put in place to protect Donald Trump, they're not going to be able to get any of that information.

Here's voting rights attorney Mark Elias explaining that exact point. Well, if Congress is seeking information from the IRS, for example, about Joe Biden, about Hunter Biden, are the IRS and other government agencies bound by this LLC guidance in the same way that the DOJ, for example, is bad? bound by OLC guidance about not indicting a sitting president? Absolutely, yeah. OLC, just to be clear, is Office of Legal Counsel.

It is within the Department of Justice. And so it issues guidance to the executive branch. So the Department of Treasury, which is where the IRS is within, is bound by OLC guidance. In fact, you mentioned the OLC guidance to the Department of Justice. That's actually much more unusual because that's the Department of Justice giving the Department of Justice. guidance. Most OLC guidance is actually given to other agencies and department that are looking for DOJ's position on an issue. To that point, then, what information will Congress be able to

retrieve from these other government agencies without satisfying OLC requirements? So what Kevin McCarthy ought to do is go on the internet and type in www.t treasury.gov. And that's the information he's entitled to, right? So they can access. the same information, Brian, that you and I access, but they are not entitled to enforce a subpoena or even really issue a subpoena, but I suppose they can issue a subpoena with a photocopier, but they're not entitled to subpoena information under current circumstances. So what does that mean? It means that Kevin McCarthy's impeachment inquiry isn't going to net him any more evidence that he had before the impeachment inquiry was announced.

And to be clear, before the impeachment inquiry, he had zero. Literally, Republicans have yet to produce a modicum of evidence proving out any form of corruption or influence peddling that they claim Joe Biden is guilty of. No evidence whatsoever. And Kevin McCarthy knows that. That is why he made the unilateral decision to launch an impeachment inquiry as opposed to bringing it to the House floor for a vote. He knew he didn't have the full support of even his own conference. At least half a dozen Republicans have already come out publicly trashing this effort. And don't forget that there are currently 18 Republicans sitting in Biden won districts. And the last thing that those people want as we head into 2024 is an impeachment vote

against Joe Biden in an attack ad against them. And with regards to those Biden district Republicans, consider this. This is from former Obama Communications Director Dan Pfeiffer's newsletter called the message box. I'll put a link in the show notes. Dan wrote, McCarthy has put them in a near impossible situation. They can either support impeaching Biden and seem like the very maga Republicans that the voters plan to reject or oppose impeachment and inflame the GOP base whose vote. they also need. According to a Wall Street Journal poll, 52% of voters oppose impeaching Biden

while only 41% support it. That's bad news for those Republicans in Biden districts. I can't shake the sense that McCarthy didn't think this one through, end quote. And it's not just the impact that a Biden impeachment will have in those 18 districts. Think about the impact that a Biden impeachment will have on all Democrats as we head into 2024. Dan actually compared the impact of Donald Trump's impeachment when he was president on Republicans. Unfortunately, impeachment was good for Trump. During the impeachment process, Trump's poll numbers went up.

In an NBC Wall Street Journal poll, his approval rating among Republicans shot to 90% after being in the 80s for much of the last year. Among independents, Trump's approval rating increased to 47% in January of 2020 and 51% in February 2020 after previously being in the 30s. Biden could see a similar rise in the polls if the Republicans undertake impeachment. Dan went on to site a New York Times poll showing that 91% of Trump's 2020 voters are supporting him now, while only 87% of Biden's voters plan to vote for him in 2024 and wrote, an unpopular MAGA House Republican majority pursuing a partisan, unfounded impeachment

is a textbook example of something that would cause Dems to come home to Biden. So, in other words, let me just give you a snapshot of where we're at right now. We've got an impeachment inquiry that was immediately hamstrung by guidance that was put in place by Republicans, meaning the inquiry won't be able to actually uncover anything of substance, but impeachment will have the unintended consequence of putting 18 Republicans currently sitting in Biden 1 districts at super high risk and have the other unintended consequence of rallying those wayward Democrats back home to Joe Biden, which is currently Biden's biggest weakness as we head into 2024. And they say that Kevin McCarthy isn't some brilliant tactician, but still Kevin McCarthy will barrel ahead because this isn't about strategy or long-term plans or the Constitution. it is about keeping his job. This is all intended to placate the farthest fringes of McCarthy's base

who don't care at all about those Republicans who are sitting in Biden-1 districts, but instead they just want something to brag about on Fox or on Newsmax. McCarthy just doesn't want them to call for a motion to vacate and put his speakership at risk, and so he does whatever they ask, regardless of the consequences, because this isn't about anyone other than himself. And in this case, the consequences are already looking pretty grim for Republicans. Next up is my interview with Lucas Coontz. Now I've got Democratic candidate for the U.S.N. and Missouri, Lucas Coons. Thanks for joining.

Yeah, absolutely. Great to be here. Now, you're running for Josh Hawley's seat. Josh Hawley has obviously been in the news, especially lately because of his involvement in the events of January 6th that Donald Trump is now being prosecuted for. But as far as Missouri is concerned, there are folks out there who say that a Democrat can't win in Missouri. Can you speak on what you've learned that might suggest otherwise? Yeah, I mean, there's a few things. First is that Democrats have. one in Missouri. We've won here in Missouri very recently. Up through 2017, most of the statewide elected officials were Democrats. Our last Democrat actually left office, statewide official,

left office this year. So Missouri is one of those unique states where voters are willing to vote for both sides when they're given the right opportunity. And, you know, Josh Hawley is that opportunity. It's crazy. But this guy is the least popular U.S. Senator up for re-election on the Republican side in the entire country. The least popular one. Like, worse than Ted Cruz, right? And I'm talking about with the people within the state. Like, it's crazy that you can be less popular than Ted Cruz, but he is. And so that gives us a unique opportunity here.

You know, we ran some recent polling that showed us in a dead heat with him. Just an example of Democrats or voters voting for both sides. You know, in 2016, when Donald Trump won the state by 17 points, Jason Kander came within less than three points of winning. He's another veteran like me. As a veteran, you're able to open doors that other people aren't. And you know what? the guy he was running against, wasn't as hated as Josh Hawley is.

And we don't need to win by as much as Jason Kander would have needed, you know, we don't need to close the gap as much as 17 points. So it's just really exciting. We're in a good spot and I'm excited about it. Can you talk about the significance of running one of the only offensive races for the Senate ahead of 2024? Yeah, I mean, it's critical, right? Like Democrats are playing defense all over the country.

Not a great map. Yeah, that's where everybody's telling me. And so I'm excited about it, though, because Missouri's in play, man. this is my state. We're running a great campaign. We're neck and neck with Josh Holly. We're out raising him. We raised over $2.5 million in the first six months. That's more than him. He was bailed out by the National Republican Senatorial Campaign Committee. They're actually running attack ads against me because they're worried about his numbers. They know where he's at right now. And so, you know, for me, it's just, it's great to have Missouri as a target state that people are interested

in because it's out here on the front lines in the fight for democracy. He's not raising money. He's having trouble raising money. What tactic is he using to actually get some money in this campaign? Well, not ones that work. And so what the thing about Josh Holly is like this guy was a country club Republican when he ran in 2018, right? He was supported by Senator Jack Danforth, a longstanding sort of bipartisan Missouri, U.S. Senator. The guy made him. He cleared a Republican primary for Josh Holly to become attorney general. He cleared the Senate primary for him. He made, he did all the fundraising for him. And so, you know, Since then, Jack Danforth has said that Josh Holly is the worst mistake he's ever made.

He's not going to raise the money for him again. And when I say that, like, let's back up a second for everybody because Jack Danforth is the reason that Clarence Thomas is on the Supreme Court. So, like, this guy's made some blunders in his life and he's still sticking to his guns that Josh Holley's the worst mistake. So he lost sort of the traditional country club Republican funding machine. There are a couple other billionaires that have stepped away from him. He's trying to get a grassroots machine going, but, like, people just don't, he's not. a trustworthy guy, right? Like, people aren't interested in him. They're not excited about him. He just comes across as kind of weird and gross. You know, he's got this book on manhood.

He put out, like, just a bunch of weird stuff. And so he's actually failing. His main fundraising right now is transfers from other Republicans, you know, National Republican Senatorial Committee, John Cornyn down in Texas. They're keeping him afloat. Now, on health care, we just had the one-year anniversary of the Inflation Reduction Act. That law represents the first successful bid, by Democrats to actually lower health care costs to get the government to negotiate lower prescription drug prices to cap out of pocket costs for seniors at $2,000 a year. I know that health care is one of the issues that you've been most outspoken about in your campaign. Can you talk about why that is?

Yeah. So, you know, it actually goes back to my eighth birthday. Who got into health care policy when they were a kid? I didn't, but, you know, I should give a little background on my, you know, I grew up in this working class neighborhood in Jeff City, Missouri. everybody's paycheck to paycheck You know, my parents got married at 1922 They had a bunch of kids And we were all living our best life though

You know, great neighborhood Everybody's parents They're taking care of all of us kids running around And so, you know, my eighth birthday comes around And I was going to get like the coolest birthday present ever And so I was going to get a little sister And, you know, me and my other siblings My parents were Catholic

And so we were born like bang, bang, bang, right? And if anyone has siblings close to you, you know you love them but there's like a lot of competition there and we were going to get this this little girl was going to be eight years younger than me I was so excited she was going to come on my birthday she was actually born two days before my birthday and then so the night before I finally got to meet her you know went to the hospital I got to hold her my mom was like I think she's going to come home on your birthday it's going to be so great and I was just I was thrilled right like it really was the biggest birthday present I was ever going to get when you don't have enough

money, you get like, you know, I get like a no fear t-shirt or something for my birthday, right? And to have this happen, it was going to be so great. And then, you know, that night, some helicopters came in, a helicopter came in, actually, and they found that my sister had a heart condition, and they flew her away. I grew up in mid-Missouri. They flew her two hours away to St. Louis, and my parents followed. And so, you know, instead of having my little sister come home on my birthday, I actually woke up and I didn't have a little sister. And I also, I didn't, my parents weren't there and it was just you know kind of me my grandma came down to try to take care of me and um you know for an eight year old that's that's hard man and i remember i i spent that

birthday um praying that my little sister didn't die on my birthday because um would you ever get a birthday again uh if that happens and um it seems kind of selfish now to to say that right but as a kid that's important to you and uh and as hard as it was for me like now look looking back on it. I just had a baby, was in the NICU for eight weeks, and that was hard for us, and my wife Marilyn and I, and just thinking about what my parents must have gone through is incredible, right? Like for a paycheck to paycheck family in this country, when you, you know, get injured at work, when the furnace you've been limping along for two winters goes down, when your water heater goes out, when your car breaks, it's down, that's it, you're done,

and you're not going to make it. And my parents, didn't have any money. They went bankrupt. It was very hard for us. And, you know, it shouldn't be that way in this country. We have the capacity to make it different. Like, the reason it's that way for people is because they've made decisions like, let's not negotiate for drugs. Like, why would you make that decision? Who doesn't negotiate when they buy something like that? That's crazy. You know, it's transferring health care decisions to insurance companies. You know, it's offshoring all of our production of pharmaceuticals. All these decisions, were made by politicians who were bought off by folks.

And, you know, the only reason we made it, it's not because, you know, the Country Club politicians helped us out. It's not because other people, that our government helped us out. It's because the people in that neighborhood who had no more money than we did pass the plate around for us at church, brought food by the house, and took care of us. And again, like, it shouldn't be that way in this country. It's a real tragedy that it's that way. And so for me, like, that's why health care is important.

It's a huge issue. and we need to fundamentally change how it works in this country. Well, obviously, another health care issue is women's reproductive health care and the whole issue of abortion. That was a principal issue in 2022. It's going to be a principal issue, again, as we head into 2024. Obviously, Josh Hawley is opposed to Roe. Can you talk about what religious extremists did in Missouri

to strip reproductive rights away from women? Well, they took them all away. Like, it's, I mean, we were the first state where women had no action. access to abortion under like any circumstances, really. And it's scary for the average Missourian. And really, the average Missourian just wants to be able to make the decisions for their own life. Right, right? You just want to have the resources to make the decisions that you think are best in your life.

And it's just, you know, when people look at, I guess, draconian might be the best word, but just like the weight of this law that basically takes away your access to abortion completely. Some of them think, well, how does that get enforced, right? Like, you're not even allowed to, you're not allowed to leave the state to get one, supposedly, like you can't get it in the state. And the thing is that we have precedent in our state for how it gets enforced, because a few years ago, the Missouri State Health Director actually used health data from Planned Parenthood and other records that he could get to track women's menstrual periods to see if they were having abortions or not, because he wanted to see if he wanted to see if they were

that was a possible way to do it. And they were, they were able to see if abortions were happening or not. And like, like, how'd they find out about this? So there were, they were trying to shut down the last planned parenthood abortion center in Missouri. And there were a bunch of hearings on it. And the health director testified that, yes, he did. In fact, first, the health department denied doing it. But then there was a spreadsheet where they literally were tracking all these women's menstrual cycles to see if they're having abortions. So like the dystopian, the dystopian, like almost Almost like parody of itself when we, when we, you say what could happen, like the natural progression of what could happen with these draconian laws against women's reproductive care literally happened in Missouri. Yeah, I mean, if you're going to ban it, this is what it looks like, right?

Like there's no other way to figure out if people are pregnant and then are no longer pregnant, right? And I mean, it's worse than that because then when you think about it further, you're like, well, if they track your menstrual cycle and then, you know, you're pregnant for a little while and you're not anymore, well, did you have a miscarriage? are they going to come in there and, like, you know, demand all the information on how that went for you? Like, it's mind-blowingly crazy. And so, Missourians are aware very intimately that this is what it looks like when you really go this far because we had it. And of course, that guy was run out of office. That's what I was going to say. Yeah, Missourians ran him out of office. They were like, no, we don't want that. For those watching and listening who aren't in Missouri, can you like, I guess, what was it like? How was that received among the people in

Missouri when when something like that happened because I guess I guess just like shed some light on on on on the way that that was received dude is terrifying like missourians are independent people like again we just want to have the resources to control our own lives we've been trying to take power back from people like Josh Holly and like this creepy politician who was who was tracking menstrual cycles and and so that's what we did you know he got run out of office for that people thought it was outrageous which they rightfully should and and you know it's just another example of Missourians taking power back for themselves, which we've done again and again. I mean, since 2018, you know, we've overturned the anti-union right to work.

68% to 32% like huge margin there. We passed Medicaid expansion. We increased the minimum wage, $5 over the federal level. We passed first medical and then recreational cannabis. And it's just like, you know, you can smoke weed in Missouri now. You can get some health care and you can finally get paid, you know, a little bit more than you did before. And all that happened because people want to take power back for themselves. again, we just want the ability to make our own decisions. And this is right down that line.

I mean, the idea here is that we put abortion on the ballot in 2024. And when Missourians have that opportunity, just like in Kansas, you know, we're going to take that opportunity to protect our rights. And just to be clear, there will be some type of referendum on the ballot in 24. It's in the process right now. The Republican Secretary, State, and Attorney General are doing everything they can to, you know, overcome the democratic process and to keep it off the ballot. It's in the courts right now. And, uh, and I mean, hopefully it'll get on there. I mean, I want it on there. I think every Missouri wants it on there. Yeah. On there pretty much, right? Like, the reason they don't want it on there because they're like,

well, well, maybe we messed this one up, right? Dog, they caught the car, right? That's right. Yeah. Um, you know, Josh Hawley's entire family is actually pretty fully invested in stripping women of their reproductive rights. Can you speak on that? Can you speak on what the rest of, you know, another member of Josh Hawley's family did? So, so, so. So, So this is the family business. This is the Holly family business. And so it's really corrupt and it's really bad. And, you know, there's a little background here.

So Josh Holly's wife, her job is she works as a lawyer and she goes around and tries to deny people the right to abortion access. Essentially, that's like that's the best way to summarize it. And so, but where Josh Holly comes involved and where it gets really like corrupt and bad is, And, you know, there was this Trump nominee judge who was languishing in not going to get confirmed land because he had written a bunch of stuff about abortion acts, you know, abortion, things like that, other things. I don't even remember what they all were, but basically he had some outrageous paperwork and he couldn't even get through, like, Republican confirmation. You know it's bad when even the Republicans were like, when they're like, this guy might be a little too extreme. Let's just like bury that paperwork and leave him there.

When Donald Trump has like a 90-something percent approval rating in the Republican Party and they're like, But that guy, that guy's a little too much for us. And so, but the guy was like, well, he was, I mean, give him credit. He was a go-getter. He was like, how can I get my nomination through? And he went and he found Josh Hawley, who was running for a Democrat seat against Claire McCaskill. And he's like, maybe if that guy gets in there, he'll help me out. He saw, you know, that the Holly family business is attacking abortion access.

So he donated to Holly's campaign. Holly was then elected. He helped this guy get through the nomination process. He was then nominated as a judge, or I'm sorry, confirmed as a judge in Texas. And then when Josh Holly's wife was forum shopping to try to find a client to take away the abortion pill, Miffa Press Stone, she made sure that she found somebody who was in that judge's district and would go in front of the court in front of him. And so, of course, she did. And then she puts her case in front of this judge who was a Holly donor and who Holly helped get through.

And then, like, it gets even worse. Like, how can this get worse? I know, Josh Hawley uses his U.S. Senate office to write an amicus brief in support of his wife. So he used his Senate office where he got this guy confirmed to basically lobby a federal judge to side on his wife's behalf, which then happened, of course. So we hear about like the peak of corruption being judge shopping, right? But because they already own the judge, they had to find a client in the judge's district that they can then use to bring a case there.

It's unbelievable. It really is unbelievable. But I mean, these people have no shame. I mean, again, we're talking about the guy who wrote a book called Manhood by Josh Hawley. Yeah. What would having a Democrat in an otherwise red state like Missouri mean for that state? Like, what would it mean for your constituents if you were the 51st vote versus another Republican in just another, you know, in just another red state? Well, here's the really like sad thing about Josh Holly. And this will take some background from me. But, you know, When I talk about my old neighborhood where everybody took care of us, passed the plate, brought food around, you know, we were all working class, you know, all paycheck to paycheck. And it was still, you know, it was a strong community, though, and people were able to take care of each other. And, you know, I joined the Marine Corps to serve that community. I thought that would be the best way. I did 13 years.

I deployed to Iraq and Afghanistan, and I watched politicians like Josh Hawley wage warfare on that community. I mean, you know, when he was our attorney general, he immediately shut down the division of that office that protects us from corporate predators, basically. And then he led a lawsuit that made sure that 236,000 Missourians wouldn't get overtime pay anymore. Like, that's how people in our neighborhood take care of each other. Like, overtime pays how we do that. And that cost us $27 million a year. It's brutal. And if you go back to that neighborhood now, first house I lived in is an empty lot.

The one I joined the Marine Corps out of is boarded up right now. and, you know, falling apart. It's going to be gone soon, I suspect. The corner store was boarded up because it was robbed so many times it couldn't get insurance. And again, I'm talking about a magical Americana neighborhood just like in the 1990s when I was going up there and this has happened. And the reason it's happened is because, you know, politicians like Josh Hawley attack it. And then when they get into office, they choose not to invest in it. And so, you know, traditionally Republicans in Missouri, Roy Blunt is the latest example, would at least bring up.

bring money back to our state and invest in communities and neighborhoods like that. So Roy Blunt brought back, you know, $350 million a year, and Josh Holly brings back $0 a year. He doesn't use any leverage, not that he has any, because everybody there hates him. But what me being the U.S. center for our state would mean is that finally we'll have a U.S. center again who will invest in our communities, who will bring money back here, who will do things like vote for investing in the next generation of energy, you know, infrastructure projects and other things, which these guys won't do.

who were a heavy veteran state, Josh Holly voted against the PACT Act, which, you know, if you don't know, is, was made so that veterans like me who are exposed to Burn Pit, burn pits in Iraq and Afghanistan, which I was, would have access to VA care for the damage that that did to us.

Like, he voted against that, man. Like, he hasn't taken care of any of us normal everyday Missourians. And so it's going to be a real opportunity for just everyday people to be taken care of again and, you know, be represented rather than ruled. because, like, it's what the guy wants to do with us. He wants to rule us.

Just control everything. Yeah, and can you just expand on that point? Because, I mean, this is a guy running for re-election as part of a party that's predicated its entire identity on freedom. And yet, that's not really what we're seeing right now. Yeah, I mean, he wants to control us in the bedroom. He wants to control us in the doctor's office. He wants to control us in the workplace. He wants to, I mean, you know, there's that manhood book, right?

Like, he wants to, I mean, it's so creepy. Man. So I had to read it. My campaign manager made me read it. I only got through half. Well, actually, my next question literally is, what is your favorite excerpt from the book? Oh, what's his favorite excerpt from the book? Okay. I save the most important question for the end. Well, it's probably the 10,000 times that he uses the phrase Epicurean elite, which I'm pretty sure you've got to be a pretty fancy elite to even know what that means. I didn't know what it means. I was like, what the hell is that? What bro in a frat house doesn't use that word on a daily basis? Well, an Epicurean elites. And it's just like, I mean, the weirdness about the book, though, is, like, his solution to the masculinity crisis

is for people to be more like him. Like, it's crazy. Shocker. Yeah. Shocker. Who to thunker? But he starts with Adam in the Bible and goes through men in the Bible. Just to the peak of masculinity.

Just describes how he's like them and then reminds everyone that if they too did what Josh Hollywood, it would solve all the problems for men in the world. Oh, and by the way. way removing women from the workplace would also be helpful unless they're doing things like making sure that other women don't have access to abortions. In which case. In which case, yeah, they're doing God's work, so it's okay. No, it's crazy. But it's just like, it's just, if you write a book like that, you're trying to rule everybody, right? Like, like you're trying to tell them what to do. You're trying to control them. And like, you know, I didn't bring my kid into the world to be told what to do

by like the coward of January 6th, right? Like, no! And that's how it is for all Missourians. Like, we don't want to be told what to do, man. We don't want to be ruled. Like, we want you to invest in us. Your job is to invest in us and give us the resources to decide what to do

to take care of each other. Like, you know, the people in my neighborhood take care of me. That's all we want. That's it. Like, otherwise, like, take your weirdness and, you know, do what you want within the walls of your own home. Yeah, yeah.

To that point, how can we help your campaign and why is it important to help your campaign now so early ahead of 2024? Yeah, so, I mean, you know, what we're doing right now is, well, what we found is that when my message gets out there, like this race is 100% competitive. Missourians are willing to vote for both sides, particularly against the guy like that. And so what we're doing right now is getting our message out to everybody.

And so, you know, donations to us right now are critical in facilitating that. We're hiring organizing directors so that we can build out the GOTV movement in the state, voter registration that takes a long time like you can't just get money like next September and expect to do that and so you know we're making those investments right now other things people can do is you know spread the word a lot of people found out about us through your YouTube channel actually it's wild like I go all around the state and people are like oh I saw you on Brian Tyler Cohner and I'm like yes that's right and because people listen to that and so when you share links with your friends when you tell people about the campaign when you know somebody in

Missouri, who you went to school with, or met in the military, and you send in the stuff. Like, that's how we get the word of mouth out. And that's absolutely critical. That's how we are going to win this race. And so far it's working, and we just need to keep snowballing that. And what's the website link? The website is Lucascoontz.com. So it's Lucas, L-U-C-A-S, K-U-N-C-C-E.com.

We're at Lucas Coons-M-O on Twitter, Instagram, all that sort of stuff. Right. And I'll put that link in the post description of this video and the show notes on the podcast as well. Lucas, thanks so much. Good luck in the campaign show. And you're welcome back anytime. Thanks for having me, ma'am. Thanks, everybody.

Thanks again to Lucas. And for anyone listening, if you want to support his candidacy, make sure to check out his website. All right, that's it for this episode. Talk to you next week. You've been listening to No Lie with Brian Tyler Cohen, produced by Sam Graber, music by Wellesie, interviews captured and edited for YouTube and Facebook by Nicholas Nicotera,

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