No Lie with Brian Tyler Cohen - Trump drops major military announcement

Episode Date: March 29, 2026

he Pentagon is preparing for weeks of ground operations in Iran. Brian interviews Jon Lovett at the No Kings protest and Sherrod Brown about polling ahead of his Republican opponent for the US Senate in OhioSupport Sherrod Brown: www.sherrodbrown.comShop merch: https://briantylercohen.com/shopYouTube: https://www.youtube.com/user/briantylercohenTwitter: https://twitter.com/briantylercohenFacebook: https://www.facebook.com/briantylercohenInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/briantylercohenPatreon: https://www.patreon.com/briantylercohenNewsletter: https://www.briantylercohen.com/sign-upWritten by Brian Tyler CohenProduced by Sam GraberRecorded in Los Angeles, CASee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

The Pentagon is now preparing for weeks of ground operations in Iran as that war ramps up. And I've got two interviews. POTA of America's John Lovett joins me at the No Kings protest. And Sherrod Brown discusses polling ahead of his Republican opponent for the U.S. Senate in Ohio. I'm Brian Teller Cohen, and you're listening to No Lie. Some stunning new reporting from the Washington Post. Quote, the Pentagon is preparing for weeks of ground operations in Iran, a U.S. official said, as thousands of American soldiers and Marines arrive in the Middle East for what could become a dangerous new phase of the war,

should President Donald Trump choose to escalate. So on the off chance that you thought maybe Trump would be smart enough to realize the error of his ways by engaging in exactly the kind of war that he swore he'd avoid when polling showed that this war was the least popular at its outset in U.S. history, you can pretty much kiss that goodbye as he now digs ten toes in and actually ramps up the war, or incursion or excursion or military operation or whatever other synonym he landed on this week, to avoid actually going to Congress as is legally required. But here's the reality of engaging in a protracted war.

You're not going to be able to unwind it. So when Trump inevitably gets bored and wants his unpopular war to go away, it's not going to be that easy. Because every day he continues with this means the cost of oil rises, means the cost of gas rises, means other countries get sucked into this conflict, and it continues to spiral out of control. And that's already happening,

which should already be enough of a blinking red light for Trump to recognize the error, of his ways, and yet he's choosing to do the polar opposite. He is making the conscious decision to plunge this country into a protracted war, which would be bad enough unto itself, but even worse, considering it is leaving Americans with higher gas prices, resulted in more than a dozen dead U.S. military members, and it's costing billions of dollars per day, money that could be going to anything else, all of which Trump railed against on the campaign. He literally has become a caricature of exactly the kind of politician that he once condemned in hundreds of his wrath.

which really is the whole game at the end of the day. Like, this is what Trump does. He is an entertainer. He says words that people want to hear, but they bear no resemblance to what he actually intends to do. Like, I'm sorry, but how many times does he have to go back on his word before people realize that his pandering was nothing more than window dressing? Again, in his first term, he promised an infrastructure law that never materialized. A health care plan that was cheaper and more comprehensive and never materialized. A middle class tax cut that never materialized. A jobs boom that never materialized, manufacturing renaissance that never materialized.

And then in this term, did the same thing. Promise reduced costs and cheaper groceries, lower rent, cheaper housing, free IVF, getting inflation under control, justice for Epstein's victims, accountability for his criminal associates, but he's not delivering on any of those things. The only thing he's actually done in both terms

is give himself a tax cut, give his friends a tax cut. He's built himself a ballroom. He's doubled his own net worth. He set his own family up with military defense contract. Like, I don't know how to make this any clearer. He doesn't give a shit about people, and he never did. He says things that people want to hear, but he doesn't deliver.

His entire presidency is a graveyard of broken promises. He didn't end the Russia-Ukraine war, didn't lower prices on day one, didn't bring down inflation, didn't release the Epstein files, didn't usher in a manufacturing renaissance, and he won't. Because those are just things he said to get your votes. But now that he's got them, he doesn't need you anymore. Now it's about him. It's about his legacy, about giving himself a tax cut.

giving himself all the headlines. Trump is broadcasting every which way that his priority is not regular Americans, it is himself. He will not lift a finger to help you. He'll make all the excuses in the world. But when it comes to continuing the same failed policies that he once railed against, there's a blank check. And I always make a point that it's not just Trump, right?

Every other Republican could serve as a check on him, should serve as a check on him. But instead they've chosen to prostrate themselves for him in their desperation to avoid a mean tweet. And look what it's gotten them. Now they all own this. They all own high gas prices and a new Middle Eastern war and surging gas costs and higher rent, expensive groceries, suppressed Epstein files, ICE murdering Americans, rising inflation, non-existent job growth.

They own it. They put on a masterclass in what an incompetent, weak, corrupt majority looks like. And it's being rejected by Americans. And the response by Trump and the GOP clearly is to double down. And maybe they feel unaccountable. to public pressure. Maybe they feel like they can suppress enough votes that what Americans want won't actually matter. But they're in for a rude awakening if they think they're not going to be held accountable just a few short months from now. Next up are my interviews with John Lovett at the No King's protest,

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BTC at checkout. Zbiotics is backed with 100% more. money-back guarantee, so if you're unsatisfied for any reason, they'll refund your money, no questions asked. Remember to head to zbiotics.com slash BTC and use the code BTC at checkout for 15% off. I'm here with Local Area Man. Your name? My name's John. John, what do you do for a living? I'm a podcast host. Podcast host. Well, good luck on your podcast. Thanks a lot, buddy. Yeah. We're here with the giant Trump baby. I've never been this close to the Trump baby before. Trump baby is out here on No Kings. I've never gotten up this close to it before. We are, we are almost

inside the Trump baby, which I know has been a... It's a lot. It's a dream of it. A dream of yours. Yeah, yeah. So, love it. Here we are. No Kings Day protest. This is expected to be the biggest protest in American history. Why is it important for you to have been out here? So I was get this guy. Yes. So here's what I was thinking about. You got to just, oh, that's spot. Yeah. There you go. Love it out here. So here's what I was thinking about when I was walking up to this. By the way, this looks bigger than the one last time.

I think it's a huge protest. And I was thinking about what magnet is versus what this is. And you know, we hear a lot of talk about how the right wing has become this nationalist blood and soil party. But here's the problem. There's no blood and there's no soil. It's a bunch of people in their houses consuming right wing news, propaganda, no fun, social media, what has agitated them and radicalized them and made them part of this big.

un-American, frankly, anti-democratic movement that we have to stop, we have to fight, and has way too much power in this country. But then I look out here and I think, I see a lot of people, real people, with actual blood on the actual soil, coming together to try to stand up for what we think America really is, what's meant to be. They don't have this. They don't have the guys. That's what's so embarrassing about the Ted Cruz's and Rubio's and Bances and Mike Johnson's

and John Boone's of the world, we're capitulating to a populist right-wing movement without the fucking populace. They don't have this. We have this, because this is the actual real country. This is the majority of the country. Whatever happened in the election, Americans did not vote for a war in Iran, for ice at the fucking airports, for grift and corruption, for a White House in which somebody makes billions, five seconds, before the president makes an announcement about life and death in the Middle East. It is absurd. This is yet another reminder of what the country actually stands for, what Americans actually stands for,

and why we have to not allow the cynicism and the defeatism that we all feel sometimes to stop us from doing what we have to do in the midterms and after. That's what I think. Love it. That's what I think, Brian. I love it. YouTube's best boy. Your podcast is going to go somewhere.

I can just feel it. Listen, trying to get this podcast down at the ground. Trying to get it off the ground. Love it. How does this make you think about popular movements? Because, you know, in the lead up to 2016 and even 2020, we heard so much about these boat parades. I mean, there was a lot of, like, on the street action happening, which has vanished from the right and is now present in what are, you know, consecutively becoming the most attended protest in history, whether it's No Kings 1, 2, or 3. And so how does that, how does that inform, like, how you're thinking about this moment?

So the two biggest challenges when facing a revanchous authoritarian right-wing movement. One is that you are relying on institutions that they are trying to destroy. You're trying to prove that the institutions can work even as those institutions are being undermined from within. Now, I actually think that's an area where we really kind of blew it. Merrick Garland fucking blew it, right? But the other big challenge is remembering that in order to defeat a rising authoritarian movement, you need as big a pro-democracy movement as possible. And that has to run all the way from anti-Trump Republicans

to the furthest left that you are willing to go, which is as far left as you can go. And that's frustrating to people at time. That makes people mad because there are real moral differences inside of this coalition. But all these people here, I assume have a huge range of views. I assume that there are people here that have diametrically opposed views on really important, serious issues from Israel to health care,

everything in between. But we are part of one movement. And as long as we can show up and remind ourselves of that, we're doing the work we need to do to defeat Trump and whatever the Republican Party, it looks like, that he leaves behind. What kind of a permission structure do you think events like this give people who, for whom, you know, being a Democrat was always a non-starter, or for whom being a Republican was always a part of their identity?

How does this kind of stuff change things? I think there are the hardcore MAGA Republicans and there are hyper-engaged Democrats. But everybody in between, politics isn't as much a part of their identity. And politics has been kind of an ugly slog on television for a really long time. And it didn't seem like the government worked. It didn't seem like voting maybe mattered as much as we claimed it did. People didn't take Democrats seriously enough about the right we said Trump posed. But this is just a reminder that, like, it's not just hardcore partisans out here.

It's not just Nancy Pelosi, Chuck Schumer, and Team Jeffries, and the kind of faces people don't trust on television. It is a, like, grassroots movement of people who want something different. And the job of, it's not our job. The Democratic Party isn't an end, it's a means to an act. And this is also part of how we kind of figure out how to change this. Love it. What gives you, what should people be looking out for in these last, you know, six months in the lead up to midterms right now? What do we have to take the most seriously and what gives you the most hope?

Donald Trump is at his lowest half. He's genuinely on his heels. There is a ridiculous, poorly planned conflict that is a $7.00, gallows. on my way here, costing lives, destruction, unleashing chaos. Our job is to tell a story about our job is to tell a story about by the corruption and viciousness and cruelty of this administration is having a genuine negative impact on people's lives and but there are people who actually have the capacity to stop it and ultimately build something better. And that's our job. It's to not be distracted by infighting without being afraid of hard questions and hard debates. It's about getting everybody here to understand those stakes. And days like this are a part of that, but so is every day in between.

And we're going to have some big primaries, and those will be contentious, and that's how it should be. But then we've got to get to the other side of those primaries and whoever wins, put differences aside, put egos aside, and do what we need to do to win. And that includes, by the way, here in California, some of these Democrats need to drop out of the fucking governor's race. Everybody's got to put their egos aside. Their personal differences aside and do what it takes. Love it.

Are we going to win the House and the Senate? We don't do predictions. We don't do predictions. But if we did? What if we did? I'm not doing it. I'm not doing it. We can.

We can. We can. Do it. Make it happen. I don't know I'm on charge of this. I'm not from the future. Last question. Love it. How does it feel to be surrounded by this many people with the crippling anxiety that you carry with you on a daily basis? I feel like I can basically go in and out of the crowd like in the movie K-19 the Widowmaker. They had to run into the nuclear soaked cauldron to protect the ship, but only for a few. seconds, but that was their duty. And so for me being in a crowd, I got to like psych myself up. That is your nuclear cauldron. Everybody remembers, of course, K-19, The Widowmaker, starring Harrison Ford, who himself on an episode of David Letterman said it was the stupidest name of a movie he's ever been in. And that's also what this is about, I think. I think that's

perfect. I'm with you like 50, I agree, 100%. Project Hail Mary now in Peter's. Love it. Thanks, man. No Lie is brought to you by Rocket Money. So what is the most ridiculous hidden fee or subscription that you discovered you were still paying for? For me, I've got music service subscriptions that I haven't logged into since like 2022 that I've been paying for every single month. I know that people watching have got gym memberships and streaming services, you name it, that you're charged for every month and you're not even using.

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slash Brian. That's rocketmoney.com slash Brian. Rocketmoney.com slash B-R-I-A-N. I'm joined now by candidate for the U.S. Senate in Ohio. Sherrod Brown. Thanks so much for joining me. Good to be with you again. But thanks for the way you reach out to people and have such an impact on American democracy. Thank you. Well, I appreciate that. I want to talk about some big news out of Ohio, which is not a state that Democrats normally look at or normally feel like they have an opportunity to really compete in. have been two recent polls, the Ohio Environmental Council posted a poll that showed you leading Senator Houston, 51 to 47. That was on the heels of another Republican-aligned firm now, on-message public strategies, putting you at 47 to Houston's 45. And so what do you attribute

the fact that in a state like Ohio, which has been increasingly out of reach for Democrats over the last decade plus, that the polling is showing you ahead. in large part. Well, I think it's the anger people have towards the government now. I think it's it's the war where people, it's costing, it's costing a dollar more for a gallon gas. It's costing farmers and truckers close to a dollar and a half extra for diesel. They see John Houston, a lot of anger aimed at him, who has voted to take people's health insurance away, almost half a million Ohioans and and raising the price for another several hundred thousand Ohioans and their premium increases, all for a billionaire tax cut. So people want a very different direction.

When I lost in 2004, I lost by three points. Trump won the state by 12. It's a very different environment now. And when I announced, back in August, 31,000 Ohioans went online and contributed going in 24 hours. And I've never seen that kind of enthusiasm in that kind of just desire to change things. You know, while you've been traveling the state and talking to voters, what have you heard from Republican voters out there? And I ask this because it's normally really difficult to extract people from their political affiliation as their affiliation becomes more and more intertwined with their own identity. Like, people will come up and say, you know, my my grandparents voted Republican and my parents voted Republican. And my parents

Republican, and I'm a Republican, it's part of who I am, just like, you know, your job or whatever would be, you know, your job, your religion, whatever it is, would be part of your identity. And so have you heard from some of these folks who have, for whom their republicanism is a part of their identity who can't do it anymore? Yeah, I had a meeting the other day, a lawyer in Cleveland, a youngish woman, I guess I shouldn't say it that way, a woman that practices law and practiced for probably 10 years, 15 years in Ohio. It's always a Republican. She worked in Republican campaigns, and she came up to me and said, I want to put a group of people together. So she got a group of about 15 people, ages 22 to 60 maybe,

whose families had been exactly what you said, who had been Republicans who believed in fiscal conservatism and believed government should stay out of your lives, who believed in a responsible foreign policy, who believed that we should side with Ukraine and not. engage in attacks on other countries, whether it's fishing boats in the in the Caribbean or Iran. And they, they're ready to move. It's, but then they're generational Republicans. But I've also noticed this when you start asking that question. I, I've done a lot of things. I grew up working in a family farm. I'm not a farmer, but I was a farm worker. I milk cows. I've done all that. And I've seen, I've spent a lot of time in rural communities in this campaign. And there's a lot of

unhappiness, but they don't really talk about Trump. They talk about tariffs as if that wasn't Trump that did those. My focus in this race is not Trump, it's John Hustead. And they know Houston was supporting that. And they're kind of not ready to move, but they're close to moving because they've seen their markets disappear. They've seen cost of feed go up especially, a fertilizer go up especially because of what's happening in the Iran War. They know diesel prices, and they rely on diesel, not gasoline for their tractors and their combines and all. And they're not that many family farmers, but if you go and you talk to a family farmer in Pickaway County or Van Wert County, you know that how they're doing affects the whole rural economy.

So people are very tuned into those issues. We're going to do significantly better there than Kamala did two years ago or than I did two years ago because people are ready to vote to vote for their, family farm and agricultural interests. Well, you know, speaking of that kind of open disdain for working class folks, especially those in your state, John Houston had a comment that has gained a lot of controversy for him. I'm going to play that right now.

And people living in poverty are just not very, they're not very experienced navigating the real world, right? I remember talking to one young lady who said, well, I don't really know how money works at a grocery store because she grew up and has lived all of her adult life using snap cards to buy groceries. And so you literally have to teach people how to budget. The buzzword today, let's face it, it's affordability, right? So that was John Hustead saying that people who are living in poverty are not experienced at navigating the real world. Again, just kind of dripping with disdain for working class,

Americans working class Ohioans. Can I have your reaction to that quote? Yeah, I mean, he also said that Americans don't have the same work ethic that they used to. He clearly has a disdain, maybe contempt for people that are making or not or struggling. I mean, it really is a question of so many people are struggling. And it's not just poor people. It's working class people. It's people that that are making $15, $18 an hour and can't live at all comfortably, can barely they get through the next week. He also said they don't know how to budget. I would say they know how to budget a whole lot better than John Hustadt or than other members of the Senate who don't have to think about this a lot. So fundamentally, people understand that the system's rigged

against them, that it's more rigged today than it was where corporations are making more money, corporate CEOs and executives are taking big stock stock buybacks, where these, workers are actually more productive than they ever been, yet more money's going out the door than coming in. And that's the struggle. That's the rig system. And then on top of that, John Hustead's taking people's health care away and so he can get more tax cuts to the rich. And people, I don't see politics as left the right. I see it as who side of you on. And it's clear John Hustead's on the side of the billionaires. He's on the side of First Energy, the electric company that's overcharging and he was part of the corruption where the speaker

the House went to prison for taking a $61 million bribe, and now the executives are on trial, and John Hustadt was called to testify. All of those things are his life, not the struggles of so many middle class and working class in poor people in this country. Which might explain why, even as we're spending, what, a billion dollars a day in Iran, I think the first six days of the war in Iran cost $11 billion, so even double what I had just said before. he's claiming that it's going much better than expected.

So he is, you know, cheerleading on this effort that sends money overseas instead of keeping it right here at home. Should the U.S. be engaging in a foreign war in the Middle East right now? And can I have your reaction to the fact that John Hustead seems to be cheering it on? Yeah, thanks, Brian, for that question. Absolutely. I mean, the White House, the government has not explained why we're there, is not explain any plan to get out and hasn't really given answers for what's happened to the price of gas, what's happened to the price of diesel, which affects rural America especially, hasn't done to talk about the cost. That number you give just keeps going up. It's not just,

I was with a bunch of veterans in Jackson County last this past week. And many of them are Vietnam vets. There's a VA hospital, which, was going to close and we kept we meeting all the veterans and working together with my office kept it open they understand it's not just the cost of this war and they're overwhelmingly against it it's the cost for a generation or two of health care for these men and women there were at least three people in this crowd that have had health that have had illnesses coming out of exposure to age and orange even though the government fought them one at a time this time when we're at the pact act uh veterans are going to get their

care immediately, but it's money that we should spend, but you start a war like this, and it's money that, again, we're going to spend it, we should spend it, but what's the point of this war? And I would add, too, the cost today, the number you gave is sort of the updated number every, you know, every day or two or three, Brian. In Ohio alone, the cost of the war, Ohio taxpayers are paying about $60 million a day for this war. We're under five, you know, We're underfunding highways. We're underfunding the EPA. We're underfunding things that matter in health clinics, all that.

We're underfunding things that matter every day in people's lives. And people increasingly are saying, including veterans, maybe especially veterans, why are we in this war? What's the point? Why did we go to war? How are we going to get out? What's the plan here? And damn it, explain to the American people and explain to the soldiers.

you're sending, in the Marines you're sending to the Middle East, on why we're there. 13 people as of this interview, this taping of who have been killed, 13 Americans. Three of them are from Ohio. Ohio is always paid a larger price than our population would suggest in foreign wars. And it's just immoral to be doing this when we should be focusing on people's everyday lives in our state. You know, I think that you touched on a really important point, which was what we could get instead of paying for this. And so I just want to pose that question to you. And I know that

you alluded to this a little bit in your previous answer. But what could Ohio get? What could the United States get with the billions upon billions of dollars that are right now being spent dropping bombs overseas, which by the way, would be bad enough unto itself, but even more egregious given the fact that that is expressly what Trump campaigned against. That is expressly what Republicans campaigned against. This entire party embraced no more forever wars in the Middle East. And And yet all of them are approving it and enabling it by virtue of their actions. That's what they campaigned against. No more forever wars.

What they campaign for is lower prices on everything from eggs to gas to health care to going to the grocery store and shopping for everything. So it's kind of both things there. But the money, I think about what's happened this year, the money we're spending the billions of dollars a day now. It's close, I believe, to $2 billion a day that we're spending. At the same time, they refused, John Houston, nine times voted against putting the lid on premiums for health care. 120,000 people in Ohio alone, 120,000 have dropped their health insurance because of the doubling and tripling of those premiums. They could have funded that. They could have

funded the child tax credit, which is a bill I worked on for years. The child tax drop the child poverty rate by 40%. Middle class kids, working class kids, poor kids. It made a huge difference in their lives. We're not doing that. We're not funding health clinics. We're underfunding the VA. People that go to the VA now, it's not just they've laid off doctors and physical

therapists and nurses. They've also laid off administrative costs. There aren't people answering the phone as quickly. All the things that you're a frustrated veteran, you can't. and get the appointment you need because you can't get through on the VA line. I mean, things like that, and not to mention what's happening right now with TSA agents, they're not paying. So we're spending, we're spending so much money on tax cuts for the rich and a war that is so unnecessary. You put those two together and government can make such a

positive difference that would have immense public support across party lines could make such a positive difference in people's lives. You know, I think, I think all of this kind of pointing out where John Hustead stands, who he stands with, the ways that he's emboldened some of the least popular parts of this MAGA GOP agenda, that's one thing. But I think it's also important to have an affirmative vision for what Democratic leadership could look like if and when Democrats are able to take control. And so what does that look like for you? If you're in the U.S. Senate again and Democrats have a majority, and it's obviously going to be a little different from from 20, you know, from 2026 to 2028 while Donald Trump is still president.

But what does Democratic control look like if we get to that point? And what could it mean for people in, in your state, if you've got the majority? I thank you. I very much appreciate that question. I mean, it's displacing people like John Hustadt, who was a special interest guy in Columbus and state government and goes to Washington. It's a special interest guy there. We know who they are.

And we have to do a couple things. First, we need a government. We need a House and Senate that's going to build guardrails so these things can't happen. Again, I was talking to a flight attendant on a plane recently who's based in Columbus. And she said, what's going on? Why is all this happening? I said, well, all three branches of government failed. The Senate failed, the Senate failed, the Senate House failed to do their job.

The judiciary failed to do its job. And the White House has gone beyond anything we've ever seen to do its job. So the first thing we do is come back, is build guardrails so they can't do that kind of power grab. The second thing we do is hold people accountable for things they've done. But I don't want to spend the next two years making it look like we're just getting even and tit for tat. We need to do affirmative things. And the thing I've thought of, partly because I work for 10 years to get the child tax credit, is one of the first things we should do is pass the child tax credit.

two million the families of two million children a state of 12 million in my state families of two million children so a huge swath of the state benefited immensely from the child tax credit and it gave it gave poor kids families of poor kids it raised them above the poverty line kind of middle class kids working class kids it gave their parents maybe they have a little money to pay school fees so you have so their daughter can play basketball or their son can be in theater or just take their kids to all the things that that people in this country ought to be able to have if they're working hard and playing by the rules. So that's why we need to do a few things really affirmative quickly. We pass the House, we pass the Senate. Trump may sign

some of them, but if he doesn't, we know whose side people are on. And again, it's not left to right or right, it's too side to you on. And we need to show, we need to show in an affirmative way how we're going to fight for people. It means, you know, uncancelling the clean energy projects. He canceled. It means a lot of things like that. But we've got to do something very tangible that people can feel and people can see. And something like the child tax credit, there are probably a dozen others that we should move quickly on. I think we're at a moment right now where the top one percent controls about $53 trillion in this country, while the bottom 50 percent control $5 trillion. So a massive wealth disparity in this country happening right now.

And frankly, it's egged on by the policies of this Republican Party and this administration, which, again, they ran on this idea that they were going to be champions for the little guy. And all that we've seen thus far is a tax cut that disproportionately benefited the ultra wealthy in this country. So I'm glad to have heard you focus, you know, on the right things. And frankly, the things that Republicans pretended to care about when they were running in 2024. So with that said... People within... People then cite like you, Brian, do they want?

weren't, but that's what they said. I mean, look at, I wasn't going to get in this race. I thought I was done. I don't want five years from now to look back and say I wouldn't beat Houston and I didn't try. But on that first day, these billionaires stepped down from their limousines and they walked through the hallowed halls of Congress. I still believe it is that. And they walked in like they owned the place. And it's pretty clear by day two or three or week two or three that they did own the place and still do. And it sort of begs the question, how much do you need? need. But the richest people, most powerful people in the country, maybe in the world, they never have enough. They are in a power. They never have enough of money. And it's up to Congress, not to

help with that. It's up to Congress to change direction. And this Senate and this House with people like John Eustadt just feed into those special interests by giving them more and more and more and more. Well, look, your election is crucial in terms of making that happen. So for folks who are looking to help your campaign, where can they go? They can come to sheriffbrown.com. We want volunteers. We want dollars. We want any help you can give. One of the things that's exciting this year is, as I said before, the day I announced 31,000 people went online and contributed. You know, average something like $40 each. But those 31,000, most of them, because we have their names, we're going to be in touch with them. Most of them will want to do something else. Maybe they want to

stand at the polls to make sure elections are fair. Maybe they want to hold little parties in their neighborhood and get people registered to vote or to make sure that, you know, it's people that go to no kings, rallies, who often are a little bit older, make sure their children and grandchildren vote. Older people vote in large numbers, young people in lower numbers, and there's a real generational sort of synergism there that we can play. And I'm so often, because I've never seen this kind of energy, this kind of, you know, in Texas, for instance, more Democrats vote in the primary than Republicans. I know you've talked about that. I mean, think what that means in a state like that. In Ohio, we're seeing the same energy.

Yeah, we can absolutely see, you know, the course of history changed here. And frankly, Ohio is ground zero of exactly that. So for folks who are watching and listening right now, if you have the ability to contribute, to volunteer, again, I'm going to put the link to Sherry Brown's web page right here on the screen and also in the post description. If you're listening on the podcast, I'll put it in the show notes. Please do whatever you can because if we're able to flip this seat, that means that we will control the U.S. Senate as well. So with that said, Sherrod Brown, thank you so much for taking the time. Best luck in the campaign trail. Brian, thanks for making a difference for our whole country like you do. Thanks so much.

Thanks again to John Lovett and Sherrod Brown. That's it for this episode. Talk to you on Wednesday. You've been listening to No Lie with Brian Tyler Cohen, produced by Sam Graber, music by Wellesie, and interviews edited for YouTube by Nicholas Nicotera. If you want to support the show, please subscribe on your preferred podcast app and leave a five-star rating in a review. And as always, you can find me at Brian Tyler Cohen on all of my other channels,

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