No Lie with Brian Tyler Cohen - Trump flip flops as global plans IMPLODE

Episode Date: March 25, 2026

Trump flip flops hard as his global plans implode. Brian interviews Ro Khanna and the organizers of No Kings, Leah Greenberg and Ezra Levin.Find your No Kings protest: www.nokings.orgShop merch: https://briantylercohen.com/shopYouTube: https://www.youtube.com/user/briantylercohenTwitter: https://twitter.com/briantylercohenFacebook: https://www.facebook.com/briantylercohenInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/briantylercohenPatreon: https://www.patreon.com/briantylercohenNewsletter: https://www.briantylercohen.com/sign-upWritten by Brian Tyler CohenProduced by Sam GraberRecorded in Los Angeles, CASee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Trump flip-flops hard as his global plans implode, and I've got two interviews, Ro Khanna, and the organizers of No Kings, Leah Greenberg, and Ezra Levin. I'm Brian Tyler Cohen, and you're listening to No Lie. Donald Trump is finally starting to feel the heat because for days, he'd been defiantly claiming that Republicans should absolutely refuse to strike up a deal with the Democrats to fund TSA, because he wanted Americans to feel the pain as much as possible. And so he could use that public pressure to first pass the Save America Act, which is what he wanted. Why? Because as Trump says, that bill will ensure that Republicans don't lose another election for 15 years.

And he may be right, considering it's just a massive voter suppression bill. But now it seems that the panic is finally starting to set in because, whereas Trump had been bragging openly that he's responsible for refusing to take a deal on TSA on those long lines at airports, now he's finally singing an entirely different tune. Most recently, he posted the Jews Social, blame the Democrats for the airport's mess. They want our country to do badly. They want our country to fail. They broke the already signed bill because they want to take care of criminals who enter our country illegally rather than American citizens. Thank you to our great ICE Patriots for helping.

It makes a big difference. I may call up the National Guard for more help, President DJT. Quote, blame the Democrats. In other words, Trump went from saying that he doesn't want a deal because he could use that pain to try and pass the Save Act to suddenly claiming that he's not responsible anymore for the airport delays at all, which suggests that he's starting to to see that while Americans are angry, it's not something he can leverage for his own personal benefit

because that anger is directed at him. And it comes at, frankly, a miserable time for Trump because it's not just the long lines at airports that fall into Trump's lap. It's the fact that he engaged in a war in the Middle East, that is the least popular war at its outset in history, and that no one knows why we're there or what the plan is or when we're going to get out.

It's that said war is also causing gas prices to surge here at home, which raises the cost at the pump, of course, but also of literally everything else, air travel, consumer goods, on and on. And of course, that's on top of the already surging inflation, which is expected to exceed 5% this year. Like, for posterity, when Joe Biden left office, inflation was at 3%.

And that's for Joe Biden. That's the guy who Republicans vilified for ushering in the highest prices in the history of the world. Trump's inflation rate will be nearly double what that guy's inflation rate was. In other words, Trump has ushered in high prices, expensive gas, endless war, and insane travel delays in an election year.

But the worst part isn't even for him. It's for the rest of his party that somehow has to make the case to Americans that they should be reelected, even though they've spent every waking minute shoving themselves as far up Trump's ass as they can. Like, for example, here's Mike Johnson. The president has done so much for the American people. And we want to honor him in some small way, some token of our appreciation for his leadership. And so tonight we have created a new award. We have, we're going to do something we've

never done before. We're going to honor him with a new award that we'll present annually from this point forward. But he is the suitable and fitting recipient of the first ever America First Award. We can think of no better title for what that is. That's this beautiful golden statue here appropriate for the new golden era in America. A new award. Like Trump is a fucking nine-year-old. It's amazing to watch Trump offer himself up as an anchor around their necks. And then these grovelling sycophants tie the knot even tighter,

which is to say they're not unwitting victims of Trump's mismanagement. They're accomplices. They own it. They suck up to him. They emboldened him. They give him fake trophies and statues. They want this. They're throwing parties for themselves.

They're celebrating what they've ushered in. This is unflinching, unapologetic Republican governance. Expensive food, expensive clothing, expensive utilities, gutted health care, gutted food assistance, long lines, high inflation, and endless war. Literally, everything these people ran against is what they're ushering in right now. And then they're patting themselves on the back for it. It's no wonder that Democrats are running the table on Republicans in election after election. It's no wonder that they're winning these elections by double-digit swings to the left. No wonder that Mar-a-Lago is now represented by a Democrat in the Florida legislature,

thanks to a 13-point swing. You see, part of governing like an autocrat is that you don't think you're accountable to the public. You don't think that political gravity exists anymore. But to the dismay of today's Republican Party, it clearly does. And despite the best efforts by this MAGA GOP, democracy is still able to function in America and it's not working to their benefit. Next up are my interviews with Rokana and the co-founders of Indivisual, Ezra and Leah.

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Great to be back on. So we have some new news regarding the Epstein files, and that is that in the UK, the Metropolitan Police are now seeking information from the U.S. Department of Justice to assist in their investigation of formerly Prince Andrew. So can you give you a reaction to the fact that other governments are now seeking the same files

that the U.S. government refuses to release because they're actually willing, deigning to hold criminals to account. Is it an ironic, Brian, two American Congresspeople, Thomas Massey and me, forced the release of the files. And you would think then that the American government would lead the investigation and call for prosecutions. But it's actually other governments in other countries that are leading the calls for investigation and are demanding the full files,

including the 50% that Pam Bondi has not released. This shows that law enforcement in Britain believes that the unreleased files has something to do with the former Prince Andrew's guilt or Lord Mendelsohn's guilt. And of course, Bondi should comply with that request, but she should also comply with the law here in the United States and release these files. And she should actually start to investigate some of these people, especially people like Les Wexner and Leon Black, who have incredibly outrageous allegations against them. Can you give an update in terms of another piece of news that we have from the Epstein files,

which is the fact that the House Oversight Committee has dumped the Epstein accountant and lawyers' deposition videos. And of course, most of the media is distracted by what's going on in Iran to talk about it. But any update as far as those depositions are concerned? Well, here is what is most concerning about those videos and people can see them for themselves. You had, Tahn, answer one of my questions saying, yes, the estate paid a settlement to the woman who accused Donald Trump of rape when she was 13. That Epstein paid that settlement. Then four or five hours later, he reverses himself. No, no, no, no, no.

I didn't mean that I misspoke. Then the next day, he reverses his reversal. And he says, now we can't confirm or deny whether we did pay this woman who accused Donald Trump of raping her when she was 13. If you look at his body language, you can tell he is so afraid when the word Trump comes up. He can just be sitting there calculating, please don't say anything that's going to get me on the wrong side of Donald Trump. And he gave totally inconsistent testimony. It also shows that there may have been an actual settlement with the. this woman who accused Trump of raping her.

Is there a way for the committee to haul Epstein's accountant, Richard Kahn, to answer some questions given the fact that, you know, this deposition actually raised more questions than it did answer them? Well, he came in and he was deposed, but you're saying, can we pursue it further? I guess we could, but the real issue is that he may have perjured himself. Yeah. He needs to be investigated by the Department of Justice. Congress can only do so much. We can investigate. We can get the reports out. We can have

accountability. But in terms of investigation and prosecution and law enforcement, we have a whole justice department for that. And that's what really needs to be doing the work. And if they're not going to do it, the next administration must do it. Is there any update here in terms of, you know, we are more than three months behind in terms of when the full Epstein files were supposed to be released? So far, we only have three million documents out of the six million that have been released. Any update in terms of why Pam Bondi hasn't deigned to allow us to see the rest of those documents? No, and we'll know more on April 14th when she's going to have a deposition, when she's going to have lawyers ask her detailed questions, but she can't just respond with a flip answer, and she's

going to actually have to answer these questions under oath. But there's no excuse. I mean, they claim, because we had a closed-door briefing, and I asked some of these questions, they claim that they were, they're just protecting survivors. Really? Three million documents all redacted just to protect survivors when survivors are telling us they want those documents release. Do you, are you confident that she will show up for the April 14th deposition given the fact that she offered herself up for an off-the-record briefing with members of Congress just a week or two ago? And that, you know, there was some concern that her doing that would be, you know, her way of saying, well, look, I've already been transparent and I'm here for an off the record briefing.

And so now there's no need for me to show up under oath and do a deposition for the oversight committee. I do believe she will show up. The reason I believe she will show up is there are Republicans on the committee who will not tolerate her avoiding it. But it's not 100%. She refused to give that 100% confirmation to me or Robert Garcia when asked about it. we have to be vigilant, I just think it would be total political malpractice for her not to show up. And Comer himself has said that she must show up. Why? Because he sees the votes in the committee. I mean, there are Republicans who would be outraged. Right. Congressman, to what extent do you think that what we're seeing happen in Iran right now, even if not the principal reason, could have some

some tertiary benefit to Trump in that it serves as a distraction from the Epstein files, which were otherwise enveloping the new cycle for months leading up to this point? Well, Google searches are dramatically down when it comes to Epstein since the war started. Look, Trump promised not to get us into a war in the Middle East and to release the Epstein files and hold them accountable. Instead, he has gotten us into a war in the Middle East and he's covered up for the Epstein files. It's been a total betrayal of his voters.

But one of the things it has done is taking. taken that off the front page. And he is no longer having to answer both for his own appearance in those files, for his own allegations that are against him, or for the cover-up of the Justice Department. You know, we heard as far as the situation unfolding in our airports, we heard Donald Trump just a few days ago say, you know what, I was brought a deal by these Republicans and Democrats to fund the entirety of DHS except for ICE, I don't want it because, you know, I want the fighting to continue so that we can try and get the Save America Act passed. He was pretty forthright in saying that.

We had Senator Kennedy come out and say the same thing, that a deal was brought to Trump to fund TSA and that Trump denied it. Punchball News reported the same thing, that John Thune, you know, echoed this same sentiment. And now today, Donald Trump has come out and said that, in fact, the long lines and the situations unfolding at the airports are the Democrats' fault. And so what do you attribute the flip-flop to where Trump was initially perfectly content to take all the blame for what was happening with regard to TSA and the airports? And then suddenly today did a total about face where he decided that, you know what, it's not my fault anymore. Now it's the fault of the Democrats.

But he's got a real problem. And he knows that. Gas is up over a dollar a gallon, California, almost $7. He's got a problem in terms of the airline costs, if you have to buy an airline ticket, gone up because jet fuel has skyrocketed. Groceries are up because half the oil we get goes into food products and consumer products. There's really an energy crisis in America, the kind we haven't seen since 1973 and 1979. And then he's got long lines for anyone who's flown. And unfortunately, my job requires a lot of flying.

so I fly all the time. But let me tell you, the lines are long at these airports. And people are upset. And he's the president of the United States. And he's caused a lot of this. This was not some, like COVID, something that may have been unavoidable. He caused it by going into Iran. And he caused it by rejecting Democratic offer after offer to fund TSA. And why did he reject the Democratic offer to fund TSA? Because he once married women, 100,000, 90 million American women to show their birth certificates and their marriage certificates before they can vote. It is absolutely absurd and people are seeing through it. In terms of the Republicans feeling the pressure from Trump, do you think that they're going to

relent? He's either trying to get, you know, exacerbate this pain so that Democrats can come to the table and relinquish their conditions to fund ICE, which are pretty reasonable, not wearing masks, identifying themselves, making sure that any warrants are signed by a judge, not having ice be present at the polls come midterms, all those pretty reasonable stuff. But he's clearly trying to exacerbate these problems to either pressure Democrats into relenting, which isn't looking like it's going to happen, or pressuring Republicans into nuking the filibuster to shoehorn this thing through. Do you think that the Republicans are going to kind of, you know, cater to him and nuke the filibuster

so that he can get the Save America Act passed? No, maybe they would have about a year ago. He's weak. I mean, he's 40% approval under 40%. The laws of political gravity even apply to him. And there are more Republicans who are saying, I don't want to go down with the ship. I'm not going to lose my seat in the midterms. The reality is that he's going to quickly realize that he's on an increasing island.

And I do think the Democrats are going to get our way. not for carrying down the entire ICE agency, given how abusive it is. But the reforms that we've put forth are such common sense. It's basically to treat an ICE officer like a cop, same standards. I mean, it's not even reform. It's just saying uphold the standards you have for any other law enforcement officer. Right. Well, you know, this, I presume that some of the pressure is coming from the fact that even as Trump continues to engage in all of this stuff, pretending like political gravity doesn't exist for him, we're seeing the American people speak. loud and clear at the ballot boxes and all of these special elections. In fact, just yesterday,

the district, the legislative district that represents Mara Lago was flipped and now it's under Democratic control. And that's a 13-point swing from what it was in 2024. So can I have your reaction to some of these more recent election wins that we're seeing right now happen in these special elections or off-year elections where there's 11, 13, 15, 20-point swings to the left? There's a new coalition forming in American politics. They're opposed to this war in the Middle East that is driving up costs and making life more expensive. They're opposed to elite impunity. They want the Epstein class held accountable, people who think the law doesn't apply to them

and that they get to write the laws. They are opposed to Trump's policy of giving tax breaks to billionaires, and they want something done to lower their utility prices, to lower their grocery prices. And they're voting in that way. And they're appalled by ICE terrorizing American citizens. Yesterday I said through a hearing where an American citizen, 16-year-old said he was held in a chokehold by ICE agents. Your mom said that she was threatened to have her head blown off, an American citizen. So people are finally reacting to this. And it's an anti-Trump sentiment in the American. public because a country deep down is incredibly good and decent and kind. And yes, we need an

affirmative agenda. Don't get me wrong, but let me tell you something. The anti-Trump sentiment is very strong in making sure that we will win the midterms. I also want to be clear not to just pin them blame entirely on Trump. Clearly, he's driving the ship, but the Republicans could serve as a check on him if they wanted to. They run a co-equal branch of government. They run every co-equal branch of government. And yet in the House, in the Senate, they have just decided to contract every ounce of their power to him. Is there any acknowledgement by your Republican colleagues in that conference about the extent to which he is serving as an anchor around their necks and that they are voluntarily ushering in their own demise by constantly deferring to him 100%, by constantly

cowtowing to him, regardless of how unpopular their behavior is? We've discussed this before, Brian, that I do believe the Epstein Transparency Act was a historic break from Trump. It was the first time the Republican said, you know what, I'm not just getting on his train that is going into a place that is going to lead to loss. We're going to jump off. And since then, you do have Republicans challenging him, hundreds of discharge petitions. It's not as much as we would like, but they're Republicans upset about ground troops in Iran and said that that's a red line. The Republicans upset about the gas prices.

The Republicans upset that they're still not being transparent about Epstein. The Republicans upset and knowing that ICE has gone too far. And it's hurting them with Latino voters and Asian American voters. So they see that they're headed for defeat. And the question for them is just can they convince Trump to write the ship at all or not? Yeah, well, I think he's made it abundantly clear that he wants to continue to exacerbate this pain that Americans are feeling because it will help him promote his own personal political agenda, which is, you know, as he himself has said, legislation that will help Republicans win every election for the next 50 years, which is just a, you know, a bunch of window addressing for a massive voter suppression bill. With that said, Congressman, as always, I appreciate the work you're doing and thanks so much for the time today. Thank you, Brian.

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I'm joined now by Ezra Levin and Leah Greenberg, who are the co-founders of Indivisible. You guys have an announcement about something big happening this weekend. Can you explain what that is? Yeah, Brian, it's only the largest protests in all of American history with more than 3,100 protests globally that everybody should be making a plan to show up with tons of friends and families and colleagues to make it a huge historic event and make Donald Trump very sad that he is small and puny and on the way out. So can you talk a little bit about what you hope to accomplish with this third iteration of the No King's protest? Sure. Well, that's a great question. No Kings is a,

it's a tactic within a strategy. The strategy is about fostering mass defiance everywhere that pushes back on Donald Trump, on his regime, on his secret police, on his policy agenda. The way that we do that is organizing locally and occasionally collectively coming together for a massive show of popular defiance that demonstrates that the resistance to Donald Trump is literally everywhere in the country. You are within 30 minutes of a no king's protest wherever you are in America right now, that it is growing on an ongoing basis and that there are an enormous number of us who are collectively coming together to link arms and to oppose this agenda of chaos, cruelty, and corruption. And it also funnels all those people into ongoing local organizing so that we are

moving people on a regular basis into ice watch in their neighborhood, into mutual aid, into advocacy, into electoral work, all of the things that we collectively are going to need to beat back these fascists. One thing to give in mind, Leah said this already, but it is a tactic of many tactics in a strategy. I don't think anybody is under the illusion that we have a historic protest with millions of people out and suddenly democracy wins. We don't have to worry about it anymore. Trump is gone. That's not how this works. Nobody thinks that's how this works. It is, however, a very essential tactic for welcoming new people into the movement and then getting them trained up and connected locally so we can escalate tactics as we move forward towards an election in these midterms

that Donald Trump is saying himself he plans to sabotage. And that's the part I want to dig into a little bit because, you know, there is some concern that like these happen and the protests come and go and that there's no kind of tail from them, that there's no overall benefit other than a show of force. And look, I think that anytime you can get people out onto the streets to display their opposition to an administration that kind of relies on the optics

of total control, that pierces that bubble. And I think that that's important in its own right. But, you know, we have these rare opportunities where millions and millions of people show up on the streets. And so in terms of making sure to get the biggest ROI on that stuff, How do you harness that many people to have the longest tail, to have the biggest return on the investment that is everybody giving out their time? Well, for us, it's all about treating this not just as a big popular message to the powers that be, but also as a mass absorption event. If you talk to anybody who is hosting or organizing one of these, what they're going to talk about is not just their plan for the day, but the ways that they are recruiting and absorbing the folks who come out to these events, right?

we're actually working with hosts and organizers. Some of these are indivisible groups or 50-51 or DSA or the League of Women Voters or a local immigrant defense organization, any number of folks across the political spectrum. But we're working with folks on how do we all collectively recruit at these things and then plan a what's next event afterwards? Because what we want to make sure is that if you come out to a no-kings for the first time, you're actually getting you're getting invited by a human to go to another place or another, location where you're going to get absorbed into ongoing work that is meaningful to you in your town. That is for us the real victory with one of these is that there are a lot of people who maybe came out for the first time who are actually moving into ongoing cycles of local activation. We know from our side, we get hundreds of new indivisible groups whenever there is a no-kings

because somebody raises their hand, they start organizing a no-kings and they say, hey, 50 people came out in my tiny red town. Wow, that's 50 people I didn't know agreed with me. Let's keep this going and they're off to the races. I think you'd lean to look no further than the Twin Cities to see the impact of what these national protests and organizing that comes out of them can have. I mean, the same people who I think have inspired, certainly us and the country through their opposition to the regime in the Twin Cities and the secret police force that was terrorizing their communities and murdering Americans like Alex Freddie and René Good. Those same people were at hands off last April. We're at no Kings in June. We're at no Kings two in October. And then,

on up ice out for good protests after Renate Goods murder, there were 1,300 of those in 48 hours. You're not able to accomplish that kind of rapid response targeted organizing unless you're building over time. So I would think of March 28th, No King's 3, as this historic moment, but a moment that then leads to more historic moments. How are you thinking about this in terms of new areas? Like, have you seen individual chapters sprout up in these areas that otherwise wouldn't normally be where you would think? you would see these chapters. I mean, we're not talking about like, you know, West Hollywood or, or, or, you know, something like that. But, like, are you seeing kind of this movement grow

thanks to the exposure that some folks are getting at no kings where all of a sudden you have real infrastructure that's going to outlast, you know, just the, the, the protest that we're seeing right now? Absolutely. What we've seen since Trump was elected is that we've grown about 150% in new chapters with a disproportionate number of those coming in red and purple areas, and particularly in some of the rural areas where we've actually not had presence before. And that's just not just our data. That is actually the finding when you look at folks like Erica Chenoweth and the Crowd County Consortium, what they're finding is that protest in the second Trump term and organizing the second Trump term is

extending farther and deeper into red areas of the country than it ever did under the first Trump term. I'm from rural Texas. And one of the incredible things that I get to see is all these small little rural areas or these red, deep red areas where Trump won the district or the county by 70 or 80 percent. They're having no king's protests as well. So look, Bruce Springsteen is going to help us kick off the flagship event in the Twin Cities. I know New York City is going to be huge. I know San Francisco is going to be huge. LA is going to be huge. That's great. We need that. But just as important is Coloma, California, population 372, Gustavus, Alaska, population 612. There are 17 events across Alaska. There are 12 events all across Hawaii, multiple events on multiple islands. I mean, it is important for us not just

to show we're here in big crowds, but to connect with community, with our own community, because that's how we recruit for what's to come. Yeah, I like the idea of of this kind of being a funnel because, you know, at its core, like, we have to make sure that we get people who aren't already in the tent. Look, if you're a Democrat, you just live through an election in 2024

where Democrats lost the electoral vote, they lost the popular vote, lost the House, the Senate, and the White House. We don't have the privilege of being able to rest on our laurels and say, this is our coalition. We've got everything covered. We have to grow the tent.

We have to grow the coalition because it's the only way we win. And so I do like the idea of these mass events serving as a funnel to get people more involved as we move forward and get closer and closer to midterms. Are you seeing any difference in the in the participation as Trump's unpopularity grows? Like, are you seeing the net catch people that would otherwise not have shown up to an event like this who would otherwise have identified as an independent or even a Trump voter? Absolutely. That's a really common thing that we are hearing from our groups around

the country is that this is, the harm that this administration does has been so wide-ranging and so enormous that it is bringing in people who never would have activated before. From the doge cuts that have had a disproportionate effect on veterans to the massive backlash that has been triggered by ICE and CBP going after people's neighbors, what we're seeing collectively is that there's a bunch of folks who maybe don't consider themselves political, certainly didn't consider themselves a Democrat, but who feel incumbent on them to come out right now. It's interesting because everybody has their own breaking point. Everybody has their own reason for being part of this.

And one of the goals for the movement right now is not to see new people come in and say, well, why the hell weren't you here last week or last month or last year? It's actually our responsibility to welcome everybody into this big coalition of no kings, including people who didn't vote with us back in 2024. I want Trump voters who voted for Trump. I'm thinking he was going to do no wars. He was going to cut the price of their eggs or their bread or their gas. They believed the better world was possible.

They didn't like the status quo, so they took a chance. And now they feel betrayed. We got to welcome them with open arms. To your point, Brian, we cannot just organize the Kamala Harris voters or just the folks who consider themselves Democrats. We have to build a gigantic coalition. And that is one of the reasons why we are organizing everywhere. We want to provide a place where people feel comfortable to join and can connect with

their community in a powerful and fun environment. I think the idea of infrastructure is so important, too, because as we see the success of some of these organizations on the right that have been in place for years and years and years as we look at the turning point USAs of the world, obviously having that infrastructure intact has some, gives some advantage, confer some advantage to the other side. And look, the left has been slow at building up that infrastructure. You know, there's a story that I like to, that I like to kind of revert back to. And that is this idea that in South Florida, you know, maybe about 10 years ago, Democrats were buying up ads in the lead up to the election and, you know,

spending millions of dollars on ads to get these elusive Latino voters or Miami voters, whatever it may be. And, you know, for 15-second spots that would go in one ear and out the other. And meanwhile, there was a right-wing group that bought a radio station for $350,000. And now they get to, now they get to, now they get to, to reach those people every single day. And that's how you build up allegiances. That's how you share your worldview and kind of proselytize folks much more effectively than waiting until September or October and saying, here, we're going to throw a bunch of attack ads on air and

then just hope that does the trick. People consume media differently. And I think without that infrastructure, we're kind of leaving ourselves. We're kind of relying on tactics from, you know, the late 90s and early 2000s to win elections in the, the late 2020s. I couldn't agree more there. I personally had this experience in 2016. Lee and I were out in the Philly suburbs, knocking on doors for for Hillary Clinton. We knock on doors.

We try to every single midterm and vividly remember coming into into somebody's neighborhood. And a guy stops me. He's like, what are you doing? I said, knocking on doors for for Clinton. We need to get the voting. He said, yeah, y'all are here every four years. Then I don't see you again. Yeah.

And that, that is real. That is real. I do not think we can just treat midterms or presidential elections as an October and November organizing effort. We've got to be engaged year round. And I'll tell you, the same people who are going to show up on Saturday for the first time, never went to a protest before. These people are going to be the folks who are knocking on doors and who are protecting the vote come the midterms when Trump tries to sabotage it. So for folks who are looking to participate, where can they go? You can head to no kings.org and you can find a protest near you.

And we can pretty much guarantee that there will be a protest near you because they are all over the country. My challenge to folks trying to help out in this moment, though, is I know everybody watching you, Brian, they're going to go. They're committed to helping out. My challenge to folks watching this, though, is think of three people in your life who aren't activists, who aren't organizers who might think politics is bullshit and never participated, but they don't like the direction of the country. Reach out to them and give them the gift of an invitation to hang out with. you this Saturday. That's how we're going to build this up to be historic. Great call. And I'm going to put the link to the website right here on the screen and also in the post description. If you're listening on the podcast, that's going to be in the show notes. Highly, highly,

highly recommend for everybody who is watching right now. Get out there and be with some community. I know that a lot of us, I can speak for personal experience. It gets tedious. Just, you know, being alone and, you know, with your phone, it is nice to have some sense of community. It's also, you know, as we get toward spring, it's obviously much more nice. Much nicer outside. So try to get out there and do something good for the weekend here. Ezra and Leah, thank you, as always, for all the work y'all are doing. And thanks for taking the time today.

Thanks, Brian. Pleasure to join. Thanks again to Rokana, Ezra Levin, and Leah Greenberg. That's it for this episode. Talk to you Sunday. You've been listening to No Lie with Brian Tyler Cohen. Produced by Sam Graber, music by Wellesie, and interviews edited for YouTube by Nicholas Nicotera. If you want to support the show, please subscribe on your preferred podcast app and leave a five-star rating in a review. And as always, you can find me at Brian Tyler Cohen on all of my other channels, or you can go to bryantaylorcoen.com to learn more.