On Purpose with Jay Shetty - 3 Myths About Finding Your Purpose and 3 Ways to Align With It

Episode Date: June 21, 2019

Everyone always talks about finding your passion and finding your purpose, but nobody talks about how to actually align with it.The truth is, that regardless of how many experiences we might have: vacations,  relationships, trips, etc. if we don’t align with our purpose, our journeys won’t feel as meaningful.Now, there are so many things that can hold us back like money, practicality or timing but in this episode, I give you 3 concrete steps you can use to look past those reasons and start aligning with your purpose.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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was already with you. And this is what passion is like. This is what purpose is like. Hello everyone and welcome to another episode of on purpose. I'm genuinely so happy and grateful that you're here right now for another episode tuning in, listening attentively, being focused and conscious and intentional about your learning and growth. Remember, we're trying to master self work and love three areas of our life that create so much abundance, so much wealth, so much beauty in our lives, but also if we don't make the right decisions, if we don't move in the right directions, if we don't create the right steps, these can be the greatest source of our challenges and also break down.

So I really want us to focus in on being proactive, on being changemakers in our own lives and the lives of others. And today I've got a really, really special announcement that I want to share with you. So please do stick around in this episode and remember to hear that before you switch off or hear it again. But today I want to talk about something really, really powerful and meaningful. And it makes a lot of sense because the podcast is called on purpose. So today's podcast is all about what we've got wrong

about finding our passion and our purpose and three ways to set it right. Now, I know it's a big talking point. We're always hearing the words, find your passion, find your purpose. We're always in this mind space of trying to discover and uncover it. And today, I want to bust some of those myths and share with you some really practical, actionable, applicable tips that will genuinely help you get closer. Now, we talk a lot about finding your passion, finding your purpose. And from my training as a monk, from my study of seeing people who

living their passion and their purpose, from my life of coaching thousands of people to actually get them to that place, and seeing them go through the process, I've realized that it's a lot less about finding your passion or finding your purpose. And it's truly about aligning with your passion and aligning with your purpose. See, the journey of life is a lot less about finding and a lot more about aligning. We're currently out of alignment. That's why we feel

disconnected. That's why we feel distant from ourselves or out of sync or lacking harmony. How many times in your life have you felt disconnected from yourself? Just think about that for a moment. How many times in your life have you felt distant from yourself? Or you're like, I don't even know why I am. I'm not sure I understand myself. And even if you haven't felt distant from yourself, sometimes you feel distant from the people that you love because you're trying to understand that relationship.

And how many times have you felt out of sync? We're just like, I'm not feeling the right energy right now. I'm not feeling that natural momentum. And this is the challenge. When we think we have to find or chase something, it means we're constantly moving out and away from ourselves. But when we choose to align, we're actually getting closer and moving inward of ourselves. I was saying this to a friend recently

that a monk is just a traveler except the journey is inwards. A monk is someone who wants to travel, someone who wants to learn, someone who wants to grow, someone who wants to have new experiences, but that journey is inward, it's getting closer with the self. And that deep closeness with the self allows us to be our most authentic, confident, powerful self in all different circumstances. This is one of the reasons why we struggle with self-confidence. If you don't know yourself, how can you be confident?

This is why we struggle with self-esteem. If you don't know yourself, how can you have self-esteem that's positive? How many of us struggle with self-worth? Well guess what, it's the same. If we don't know ourselves, how can we have self-worth? This intimacy with the self is about alignment. It's less about finding and it's more about aligning. Remember this carefully.

One of the biggest challenges in our life is that we're constantly trying to find our passion and find our purpose, which moves us outside of ourselves and away from ourselves and makes us believe that something is out there, rather than moving inward and closer to ourselves and developing that intimacy and that intimacy is alignment. So first of all, I want you to make this paradigm shift in your mind that you no longer have

to find something out there. When you think of finding, you think that you've lost it, right? And there are parts of it that have been buried under, that have been forgotten, that we have to reawaken. But when we think about finding, think about this for a moment, how many times have you forgot something in your home? Now, the three most common things when you're rushing out your home that you're likely to forget your wallet or your purse, your keys, and your phone. Those are the top three.

And sometimes if you wear glasses, sometimes people forget their glasses if they don't wear them often. But those are the top three things, a wallet or a purse, a keys or a phone. Now, how many times have you experienced this? Where you literally rush out, you think you've forgotten these things,

you run back into your home, you start messing everything up, you uncover all the desks, you're looking all the shelves, you pull out your wardrobe, maybe even look through your clothes, and then you realize what you are looking for is in your back pocket. Sometimes it's even in your hand, and sometimes your glasses are in your head. Sometimes your wallet or your purse is in your back pocket, sometimes your phone's even in your hands, and sometimes your glasses are on your head. Sometimes your wallet or your purse is in your back pocket, sometimes your phone's even in your hands, and sometimes your glasses are on your pocket. The keys are right there with you. How many times have you had that experience?

I'm sure you've had it a few times in your life, where you're rushing, you think you've forgotten something, you go and try to find it, not realizing that it was already with you. And this is what passion is like. This is what passion is like. This is what purpose is like. This is so much of our life when we struggle to align

when we focus on finding. So I just wanna push you towards that shift, a focus on aligning versus finding. And as this podcast progresses, I'll be sharing with you three of my favorite ways that you can get closer to aligning versus finding. So I wanted to talk a bit more about purpose because I believe that purpose is such an incredible gift to purpose is such an incredible, beautiful meaning of life that we all can experience.

And I think one of the biggest mistakes we have with purpose is that we believe there's just one purpose in our life and we have to find it right now. So we put this pressure onto ourselves, right? We put this pressure onto ourselves that I have to find the purpose of my life right now and there's only one purpose. When actually life grows through different purposes, different stages and phases, and actually

you can only live today's purpose right now, and that actually gets you to the next level of purpose in your life. It's like playing a computer game. You can't switch from playing one level of a game and then jumping to level 10. Obviously, you can cheat, but we know we can't do that in life, so it's hard to cheat the system. You can't cheat from level 1 to level 10. Obviously, you can cheat, but we know we can't do that in life. So it's hard to cheat the system. You can't cheat from level one to level 10. It doesn't work like that. You have to go level one, level two, level three.

Purpose is the same way. All you have to do is uncover today's purpose. You have to live today's purpose, this year's purpose. You can't live your 10 year purpose now. That's not the point. And we have this pressure on ourselves that we have to discover everything right now. And actually, we have to realize that the process is much more revealed step by step by step. I'm Dr. Romani and I am back with season two of my podcast, Navigating Narcissism.

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He wasn't sedentile against his will. He was motivated by it. And he set out on his will. He was motivated by it. And he sat out on the journey. Now on this journey, he had the opportunity to have new experiences and meet new people. And at first, it was amazing. And he was completely enthralled by these new experiences. But then after a while, he started to see that a lot of these experiences weren't providing him joy, and he started to lose motivation and interest. After one year he came back eagerly wanting to share everything with the king, and also feeling dejected about those experiences he'd had.

The king listened patiently and then asked where that document was. and then asked where that document was. The assistant was shocked because he realized he had completely forgotten the purpose of his journey. At first he had been enamored by the opportunities and experiences and later he became lethargic and complacent. He was out of alignment. He went out of alignment through his distractions from the purpose of his journey, which meant that even though he had some good experiences, he lost the meaning of it. It's kind of like if someone was driving fast past you and you said to them, Hey, where are you driving to? And they said, I don't know. I don't know where I'm driving. I'm just driving fast. You think that person was crazy because they'd be going nowhere fast. And so many times

in our life, we don't examine, we don't look at that meaning. So we can be so busy and distracted in our lives that we don't make time for purpose. So at one end, we're thinking, oh my God, I need to find my purpose, everything right now. And at the other end, we actually forget that purpose even exists, and we don't give it the time of day. Now, I know that this podcast so far I'm being slightly heady and philosophical and ideas, but I just want you to get into the space of just thinking about purpose a bit more

and a bit more broadly too. Now, life is similar, right? No matter how many experiences we might have, holidays, trips, if we don't align with our purpose, our journey doesn't feel meaningful, because we have to keep coming back to the life we live. Now, this is not to say we shouldn't have amazing experiences because these all lead us to uncover things about our purpose,

but we have to recognize that simply filling our time doesn't solve the challenge. A good example is an airport terminal and duty free. Now I don't know about you, but I remember growing up, I would love going to the airport, especially to shop in duty free. Not that I would buy a lot, but it was just the excitement of it. Now you can buy as many things as you like, spend as much time in the restaurants and the shops, but if you don't get on the plane, then you won't get to your destination. Purpose is like getting on the plane. It gives that journey meaning, direction, and fuel when we need it. Without purpose, we lack direction. Without purpose, we lose our compass

of what to do next. Without a purpose, that's when we get into those moments of feeling stuck, confused, not knowing what direction to go and not knowing what move to make next. When we don't have purpose, rejection feels like the end. When we have purpose, rejection just feels like redirection. When we don't have purpose, rejection feels like the end. When we have purpose, rejection feels like redirection or a correction that we can make to move forward. That's the difference when we have purpose. Now in the bug with Gita, a book that I absolutely love that I studied as a monk and I also teach so much from, it said that it's better to do one's own Dharma, even if imperfectly, than to do another's Dharma perfectly. And Dharma is spoken

about as our true eternal nature, our true natural inclination, the element in which we thrive or our purpose, but it's so much bigger than the word purpose. And that's why I love these Sanskrit words because these Sanskrit words have so much depth and meaning that it's even hard to explain it in English in just a couple of words. So Dharma is our true nature, our internal superpower, a superpower that is needed in the world. When we do what we love, that's a passion. When our passion serves others, that's a purpose. That's Dharma. It's when you're using your passion, your natural strengths, your natural inclination, your thrive mode to serve others.

Now, this is broken down in several different philosophical traditions as well. The founder of Stoicism, Zenno, said that nature is the way things work. And wisdom is acting in accordance with natural laws. And that's why I talk about making wisdom go viral because when we practice wisdom, we get happiness. When we practice wisdom, we are positive.

So you don't become happy or positive by focusing on happiness or positivity. You get them by practicing wisdom, which is acting in accordance with natural laws. Another story, Xenica, put it this way, let us keep to the way which our nature has mapped out for us and let us not swerve there from. If we follow nature, all is easy and unobstructed. But if we combat nature, our life differs not

a wit from that of others who row against the current. How many times has life felt like you are rowing against the current? How many times have you had the experience in life where you literally feel like you were just pushing and pushing and pushing and nothing is moving? And whenever you maybe had a glimpse in your life, when you definitely worked, the things

were just opening and happening. I've personally had this experience in my life where I've worked so hard for certain things, only for them not to happen. And then other things to work hard, but doors naturally open, they flow open. Right? This flow state that we experience. And in another instant, Seneca defines living according to nature as one of the deepest roots of stoicism.

So Vedic teachings are 5,000 plus years old, stoic teachings are 2,000 plus years old. So I want to help you apply that to today. And this is the beautiful thought from Martin Luther King and it's why I dived so much into ancient teachings. He said, if you want a new idea, read an old book. And so I spend a lot of time reading old books. I hope this is helping you right now.

So how do we get aligned with our nature? Now, listen to this carefully. It's a really, really important and powerful point. Passion and nature can't be found in your head because they live in your heart. Listen to that again. Passion and nature can't be found in your head because they live in your heart.

You cannot find it just by thinking about it. Right? We say things like that. When we think about it just in our heads, this is a conversation how it usually goes. Oh, it would be so cool to have my own business. I have a really cool idea, but I'm so old to get started.

Like it's too late now. Most people started really early or they went to business school or you know, they were probably friends with a millionaire and investor or their parents probably gave them some handout. Let me be more realistic. Or maybe we say something like this,

and I'm sure you can hear that voice in your head sometimes. I've heard bits of that, maybe not word for word, but parts of it. All we hear this, I'd so responsible of me to even be considering this. I've got a family, I've got to think about security, I've got to think about stability. It's just not a smart idea.

There's no money in that. And who knows if it will even work? See, our head says that, but we still feel dissatisfied inside. We still feel like unaligned. That's because our heart and head are unaligned. This is what I mean about not finding, but being unaligned. Our head talks us out of aligning with our heart.

Not following your heart, that's not enough. Aligning with a heart and we mess out on that. So what I'm going to give you now is three really simple ideas that will help you set this right, that will help you build alignment with yourself. That's what the focus is here. I'm not just giving you some cliche answers about following your passion and finding your passion.

I'm talking to you about deep alignment with yourself. This intimacy with yourself will actually help you uncover everything else. Now, the first step in this process is deeply getting to know yourself. We have to date ourselves like we would date someone else. We have to ask questions of ourselves like we would ask of someone else. We always think about how do I get to know this person? How do I understand more about the more guess what have we ever spent time getting to know ourselves? In the last podcast, I talked about meetings, right?

Meetings with yourself, meetings, ME, meetings, meetings with yourself. How many of us get time to know ourselves? Now, I'm gonna give you a really practical because when you ask yourself questions like, who am I? How do I understand myself? Well, guess what we come up with things

that are fairly subjective, not objective at all. And we start judging ourselves by fairly subjective, not objective at all. And we start judging ourselves by our intentions, not our actions. One of our biggest reasons why we struggle to get to know ourselves is we judge ourselves by our intentions, not our actions. We judge ourselves by our deep motives, but not what we actually end up doing. And this is misleading and why it's subjective and not objective. So this is how you get to know yourself for real. Look at your credit card statements. Look at your books that you've actually read. Not the ones on the shelves that make you look smart. The books you've actually read. Like take them off the shelf, put them next to you

and ask yourself, which of these books have I actually read? Think about that. And then what are your favorite movies and TV shows you watch? I want you to try and spot the patterns of what do you gravitate towards? Not as an activity, but a theme. I'll give you an example. I'm fascinated by how so many of us don't know the patterns

in what we enjoy and like. We say things like, oh, I like everything. I like a bit of everything. When you say you like a bit of everything, it's a lack of self-awareness, because when you're self-aware, you can see priorities. You can see orders. You can see structures.

So I'll give you an example. I like a lot of different movies. I do like comedy movies. I do like action movies. You know which movies I love the most? Movies I love the most are Christopher Nolan movies. Now, if you know Christopher Nolan, Christopher Nolan made the prestige,

memento, inception, interstellar, the Dark Knight trilogy, the list goes on. Some of my favorite movies of all time. Now, notice all of these movies have similar patterns. Fabulous storytelling, incredible twists in the plot, deep characters who are really trying to understand themselves, grow and learn. Right? If you look at Leonardo DiCaprio in Inception, you look at his character, you look at Matthew McConaughey and Interstellar, you look at Christian

Bale in The Prestige, all of these characters identify with the characters journey of transformation, growth, progress, sacrifice, learning. I can see that that's what I value just by looking at that. When you look at your credit card statements and you look at, well, what am I spending money on? And maybe you're going to look at that audience and you're going to say, oh, actually, I'm not spending money on anything I'm passionate about. Well, let me change that.

And that's gonna be a great lesson for you. And when you're looking at the patterns in your life, don't focus on how it sounds in your head. Focus on how it feels in your body. When you're trying to see if you really have passion for something, don't measure your passion by how something sounds in your head.

Measure your passion by how it sounds in your head, measure your passion by how it feels in your body. This is such a huge takeaway. Don't measure your passion or your purpose by how something sounds in your head, measure your passion and purpose by how it feels in your body. What I mean by that is when you try and analyze something based on how it sounds in your head, that's when the voices of everything else comes up. You start thinking about what will other people think? You start thinking what will other people say? You start thinking how will my friends and

family react? That's the conversation in your head. Well, when you use your body as a metric, ask yourself, did you naturally smile when you thought of doing something for the rest of your life? Did you naturally light up or feel alive or did you just feel this rush of energy? I feel this all the time. If I must record a video, record a podcast or be learning and reading and studying, I get so much energy from that. If someone asked me to walk into a meeting where we're having a big discussion about numbers and all that kind of stuff, I'll be like, oh, it's not my thing.

Right? I can feel the energy in my body. You can see your body language change. It's so important that we use that as a sign for the patterns. And don't just look at patterns of activities you enjoy. Look at patterns of characteristics, traits, qualities, attributes, these are the signs we have to look out for. The second thing I want you to think about is, and even if you're not a coach, you're not a teacher, you're not a speaker, I still believe this is the right question. What do you love to learn and what do you love to teach? And you'll realize we're all teachers, right?

We all give people lectures, even if we're not teachers, even if we're not coaches, even if we're not therapists, we all give people advice. And I want you to think about this. You want to focus on your natural strengths and talents and nurture them deeper. Now, listen to this carefully because the principles I shared earlier

from the Vedas of Dharma and Stoicism where I shared from Seneca applies to this principle. Imagine I was going to invest a hundred hours into your self development. I was going to pay for you to have a hundred hours of self development. How would you divide that hundred hours

between what you're good at, what you're average at, and what you're terrible at? How would you divide that hundred hours? So imagine it as a hundred percent. How would you divide that 100 hours? So imagine it as 100%. How would you divide it across these three areas of things you're good at, things you average at and things you're terrible at? So would it be 33.3% for all three? Would it be 80, 10, 10? Would it be 40, 40, 20? Would it be 10, 20, 70? Which one would it be for you? Take

a few moments just to think about that in your head. How would you invest 100 hours in your self-development into what you're good at, or your average at, and what you're terrible at? Tell me the answer to that question right now. Think about it out loud. So when they studied the most healthy, wealthy, and wise people in the world,

they found that their breakdown was either 100,000 or 80, 10, 10. The most successful, happy, wealthy and wise people in the world went all in on their natural skills that they were already good at and excelled at them. Why? Because if you focus on what you're terrible at, you may get average at it. If you focus on what you're average at, you may get good at it. But if you focus on what you're good at it, you can become world class in that field.

And world class is what gets recognized, world class is what gets awarded, world class is what feels meaningful. Now, I went a step further here, is that when it comes to your hard skills, focus on your natural strengths. When it comes to your qualities, your soft skills, focus on your natural weaknesses. So when it comes to things like speaking, math, learning, education, writing, scripting, Excel spreadsheets, analytics, coding.

When it comes to those hard skills, focus on your strengths. When it comes to your weaknesses, things like empathy, conflict resolution. When it comes to things like mediation, when it comes to things like support and service, focus on your weaknesses. You build those up with your strengths

and you'll find meaning and happiness in your journey. And the thing about this question is you can be as niche as you like. There are over 7 billion people on the planet. There's a market to teach everything, literally everything from, and I'm being serious about this, David Beckham studies exists. Yes, it really exists at Staffordshire University in England, of course. This around, established around 2008, Professor Ellis Cashmore said,

we will be examining the rise of football from its folk origins in the 17th century to the central place it occupies in British culture. And David Beckham is a central piece of that. So they actually study David Beckham, right? All the way through to bowling industry management studies. It's also a real thing. The point is you may have the weirdest, curious, inquisitive passion, but I guarantee you there is an audience for it. You may want to teach Star Wars. You

may want to teach, of course, baking or makeup or whatever it may be. There's a place for it. When you use what you are excited to teach, you recognize there are companies, people, groups, tribes that want all sorts of things. And the more meaningful thing here when you do this is you realize that this doesn't include change in career. It's something you can apply in the workplace. Intrapreneurs are powerful roles without the risk of entrepreneurship. Intrapreneurship where you are an internal entrepreneur inside your organization.

The third and final step I wanted to share with you is we hear a lot about going outside of your comfort zone. I want to share with you a really, really powerful principle that I've learned, which I call going outside of your comfort zone with your strengths. So I'll give an example. I've enjoyed speaking since I was around 18 years old. I've been speaking every day for at least three hours a day for the last 13 years. Speaking lectures, seminars, courses, workshops, mainly offline and of course only online

for the last two to three years, but the first 10 of them were totally offline when I didn't make any money from them when I was just trying to serve people as through that, to scale through that passion of mine. And I was just trying to deliver and share everything I was learning, I would learn and share to deliver and share everything I was learning. I would learn and share, learn and share, learn and share.

I ran this society I think called Think Out Loud at University, where students would come to hear me every week, speak about psychology, science, spirituality, and philosophy. I would use movies as examples. I was doing all of this stuff offline for 10 years because I loved it and because I wanted to share. And one thing I learned from that is, I always had people say to me, Jay, you need to go

outside of your comfort zone. You speak, but why don't you try this? Why don't you try that? Why don't you try this? And it was always trying to push me out of that comfort zone. Now it's beautiful to do that. I'm not against people pushing out their comfort zone. What I'm saying is, first, you should push yourself out of your comfort zone in your strengths. So for example, if I was speaking to audiences of 10 to 20 people, I can change and move out my comfort zone either by activity. So now I can say why not become a writer?

Or you can go out of your comfort zone by scale. So if you're used to speaking of 10 to 20 people, you can dial that up by speaking to 100 people. You can then dial that up by speaking to a thousand people. You can then dial that up by speaking to 10,000 people. You can also dial it up by who you're speaking to. So you may first be speaking to students. And now you're trying to speak to young professionals. And now you're speaking to CEOs. And now you're speaking to celebrities and influencers. And now you're speaking to CEOs and now you're speaking of celebrities and influencers and now you're speaking to

world leaders, right? The point is that you can die up and grow within your strength out of your comfort zone. And to me, that's so much more important than just trying to become a master of something else. So when you get deep mastery in your strength in different levels of comfort zone, then you can switch. If you're trying to switch too early, you end up actually not growing as deeply as you can in what you're already naturally good at. So the point is to go out of your comfort zone with your strengths. That's a unique talent, a unique potential can be reached through that process. So ask yourself, how can I challenge myself outside of my comfort zone? Right? How can I challenge myself outside of my comfort zone? That's what I really, really want

you to look at because that's what's going to make the biggest difference at this stage in your life. If you're doing something, how can you change a scale or who you do it for as a test? And that scale change may usually be free, right? You may actually speak for free. You may actually bake for a client for free. You may actually do makeup for a client for free. You may do all of those things for free to get your foot in the door. These are my three steps as to how we can truly, truly, truly go with aligning to our purpose rather than trying to see your thoughts. I can't wait for this incredibly conscious community we're creating of purposeful people. You're now a part of the tribe, a part of the squad.

Thank you for being here. I can't wait to share the next episode with you. Hey, it's Debbie Brown, host of the Deeply Well Podcast, where we hold conscious conversations with leaders and radical healers and wellness, around topics that are meant to expand and support you on your well-being journey. Deeply well is your soft place to land, to work on yourself without judgment, to heal, to learn, to grow, to become who you deserve to be. Deeply well with Debbie Brown is available now

on the I Heart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you listen to podcasts. Namaste. I'm Jay Shetty and on my podcast on purpose, I've had the honor to sit down with some of the most incredible hearts and minds on the planet. Oprah, Kobe Bryant, Kevin Hart, Lewis Hamilton and many, many more. On this podcast, you get to hear the raw real-life stories behind their journeys and the tools they used, the books they read and the people that made a difference in their lives so that they can make a difference in hours.

Listen to on purpose with Jay Shetty on the iHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts. Join the journey soon. When my daughter ran off to hop trains, I was terrified I'd never see her again, so I followed her into the train yard. This is what it sounds like inside the box-car. And into the city of the rails. There I found a surprising world, so brutal and beautiful, that it changed me.

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