On Purpose with Jay Shetty - 3 Reasons You Aren’t Dating the Right People & Why Understanding Your Brain Can Help
Episode Date: February 12, 2021You know and love this podcast. Jay’s exclusive Genius workshops and meditations take your well-being to the next level. Try them today at https://shetty.cc/OnPurposeGenius It’s almost Valentine�...��s Day and there are hearts everywhere. It’s the season of love and love is determined by the heart, right? But what about the brain? On this episode of On Purpose with Jay Shetty, Jay Shetty describes the four brain types that determine the way you approach love.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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Hey everyone, welcome back to Unpurpose, and I know it's not Valentine's Day quite yet,
but I'm excited.
I love love.
I love talking about love, thinking about love,
figuring out love, observing love,
reflecting on love.
And I love answering your relationship questions
and giving you insights and information
that I hope will be helpful in finding, keeping,
and loving the special person in your life.
So how do we do that?
And what's most important to us in our partner?
The dating site Zeus surveyed roughly 6,000 people and asked them what they most like to
talk about in their first conversation
with someone new.
The number one answer, hobbies and interests.
In a study on marriage conducted by the Pew Research Centre in 2017, 64% of married couples
said that having interests we share with our partner is critical for a marriage to be
successful.
If you were to make a list of what you were looking for in a partner, what would you include?
Probably interest in hobbies, certain aspects of the way they look, maybe you'd want them
to be funny or generous, and maybe their career or family minded.
But what about their brain?
What brain type are you most interested in?
Wait brain time what does that even mean right today? We're going to get into some of the science behind what not only attracts us to others
But what actually makes relationship successful in the long term and according to one side this an amazing amount of it adds up to
What's in our brains today? We're talking about the four types of people you might
date brain types, that is along with the brain science of how to make love last. So here's a question
for you. Do we come with our personalities fully formed? Is who we are encoded in our genes?
Or is it a result of our surroundings? You may know this as the nature nurture question,
which influences us most.
According to common research today, the answer is both.
In fact, the split might be close to 50, 50,
with about half of our characteristics shaped
in some way by our genes
and about half influenced by life experiences.
What does that matter when it comes to dating?
Well, as anthropologists, dating experts and bestselling author Helen Fisher says,
we inherit much of the fabric of our mind. And that means that while some situations will change
and shape us throughout life, some of who we are is just who we are. It's unlikely to shift. When it comes to picking
the person who might be the best long term mate for us, understanding their brain type and
some of those more inherent characteristics that come with it can give us big clues as to
whether our attraction may be just fleeting or whether our love can go the distance. First, let's get into what personality is in the first place.
As Fisher puts it, our personalities made up of a combination of our character and our
temperament, characters influenced by experiences, by what our parents and other close family
members were like, by the community we grew up in, and the cultural values and behavior
that surrounded us, and so on. And then there's our temperament. When parents say they could see their kids
personalities from almost the day they were born or in some cases even how they
acted in the womb, they're referring to their temperament. These tendencies are
that part of our biology that we inherited and that shapes the patterns of how
we think, feel and behave.
And yet, with all we know about personalities and biology, it's incredibly hard
to predict who will fall in love and what relationships will be successful.
As I say this, my wife is lying on me and now you've just heard her laugh.
She's lying on me for the past 10 seconds. Go for it. No, you're
not doing the next part. Yeah, here are some things. According to extensive research that scientists
relatively feel sure of when it comes to love. Generally speaking, we tend to fall in love with
people from a similar social economic background. We usually fall in love with people who are about as intelligent and well-educated as we are.
We tend to be attracted to people
with similar political views and values.
And here's an interesting one.
We often fall for someone who lives or works near us.
And we usually fall in love with people
who are in love with us.
That doesn't mean that if someone falls in love with you,
you automatically love them back. We know that's not true. It means that if someone expresses loving
feelings towards us, we're more likely to feel the same way about them than if they hadn't expressed
any feelings of love or attraction for us. But how about the idea that opposites attract? Do you
believe that or do you believe that birds of a feather flock together? The answer is both.
Psychologist Marsal Zentner, who reviewed 470 studies on personalities and marriage, concluded
that the answer is essentially a draw.
Zentner concluded how two personalities may be best combined in a relationship remains
at present an unresolved issue.
Thank you so much. We needed to know that.
And yet, scientists have identified that specific genes interact to shape our behavior,
and that biological traits and related behaviors tend to express themselves in clusters.
Let me make sense of all of that.
For example, if your genes gear you towards taking a more traditional or conservative approach to life,
there's a high likelihood that you will also have a number of other personality traits,
including being loyal and cautious and being someone who likes to follow schedules.
That's right, you may have inherited your punctuality.
Helen Fisher says that over decades of work, she began to see distinct patterns linking people's
biological temperament with who they were attracted to.
She theorized that the chemical patterns in our brains influence our romantic relationships,
who were attracted to how we get along in relationships and our likelihood for long-term romantic
success.
To test her theory, she and her team took brain scans of study participants and matched
them to a questionnaire,
Fisher devised to identify each brain type.
The result consistently showed that people
with different brain types, not only
at distinct personality clusters,
but also tended to have distinct patterns of attraction
to one another.
Fisher's four brain types are based on
four dominant chemical systems in our brain.
The dopamine, serotonin,
testosterone, and estrogen systems.
Now as Fischer says, there are other chemicals that play a role in who we are and who and
how we love, but these are the primary ones that can be reliably linked to a personality,
characteristics, and behavior.
Before we get into describing each system in their personality characteristics, let's take a little quiz that can help to indicate which
brain type you have. So go ahead, get out your notebook and a pen or screenshot
this so that you can come back to it later. Now each statement in this mini quiz
has four possible responses. I'll read the statement and you will choose whether
you are strongly disagree, disagree,
agree or strongly agree.
So those are your four options for every question I asked.
Do you strongly disagree, disagree, agree or strongly agree?
So question number one, I find unpredictable situations exhilarating.
Do you strongly disagree, disagree, agree,
or strongly agree?
Question number two, I have a very wide range of interests.
Again, do you strongly disagree, disagree, agree,
or strongly agree?
Question number three, I am more enthusiastic
than most people. Question number four, for am more enthusiastic than most people.
Question number four, for me routines keep life orderly and relaxing.
Question number five, I enjoy planning way ahead.
Question number six, people who know me would say I have traditional values.
Question number seven, I like to figure out how things work.
Question number eight, I enjoy when conversations become competitive.
Question number nine, I'm more analytical and logical than most people.
Question number ten, I tend to know my friend's deepest needs and feelings.
Okay, two more left. Question number 11, I could change my mind easily. And question
number 12, after watching a movie, I can still feel emotionally impacted by it
hours later. So here's how you tally your scores. Give
yourself zero points for each answer of strongly disagree. Give
yourself one point for each disagree. Give yourself two points for each
agree and give yourself three points for each strongly agree. So
anytime you wrote strongly disagree, give yourself zero points,
every time you wrote disagree, give yourself one point, every time you wrote agree, give yourself two
points, and every time you put strongly agree, give yourself three points. Now, you're going to have
four separate totals. First, add up your totals for statements one to three.
The total of just those three, that's your first total.
And that's your score for the dopamine system.
So, add up the scores for statements one to three.
The total of just those three, that's your score for the dopamine system.
Now, add up your totals for statements four to six. That's your score for the dopamine system. Now, add up your totals for statements 4 to 6.
That's your score for the serotonin system. I know you're regretting not getting a pen and
paper right now, so make sure you take a screenshot and come back to this. Add up your totals
for statements 7 to 9. That's your score for the testosterone system. And add up your totals
for statements 10 to 12. That's your score for the estrogen system.
Now, these questions are adapted from Helen Fisher's actual personality test,
but they're just a sampling of the test.
For the full assessment and a deeper analysis of how you balance out among the four brain types,
you can go to the anatomyoflove.com.
That's the anatomyoflove.com.
That's Helen Fisher's website, and you
can find her full brain-based personality test there.
Now, here's the part you've been waiting for. What does this mean, right? Look, how does
this affect you? The first brain type is those who are more dominant
in their dopamine system. Fisher calls these people explorers. Explorers tend to seek novelty.
They like new people, experiences and situations. They're willing to take risks and are more spontaneous.
They tend to have higher energy and more curiosity than other types,
and they tend to be creative, optimistic, and have a lot of enthusiasm
and mental flexibility.
The second type is those who are more dominant in their serotonin system.
Physicologists, these people build their system.
They tend to be calm and conventional, the persistent loyal and orderly, the young and the most optimistic and the most optimistic. The second type is those who are more dominant in their serotonin system. Fisher calls these people builders.
They tend to be calm and conventional,
their persistent loyal and orderly.
They usually follow rules and they tend to be really good at building and managing social networks.
The third type is those who are dominant in their testosterone system.
Fisher calls these people directors.
Let's hit a pause for a moment.
When it comes to testosterone and estrogen, it's easy to get these brain types confused with gender because most of us
link estrogen with women in testosterone for men. The reality is that we all have all four
of these chemicals in our brains, along with many others. Whether you have an estrogen or testosterone
dominant brain type may not link at all with your gender. And I'll talk a bit more about that in a moment.
Okay, back to directors.
Those with a dominant testosterone system,
directors tend to be direct, focused, and analytical.
They often keep their feelings to themselves,
and usually are strategic thinkers.
They tend to be competitive and enjoy debate,
and usually they're really good at understanding structure,
like how complex machines work.
And the last brain type is those who are dominant in their estrogen system.
Fisher calls these people negotiators.
While directors key into details,
negotiators tend to see the big picture.
Fisher says they are often able to connect with a wide variety of facts
and information and think contextually or holistically.
What she calls web thinking.
Negotiators are imaginative, have great verbal skills, and are good at reading people and
interpersonal dynamics.
They tend to be agreeable to express their emotions and are nurturing and sympathetic.
Now, if you are thinking, but Jay, I had points in each brain type.
I scored equally in two or more types.
Or I sound like a few of those, that's
normal. Again, we all have all of these chemicals in our brains, so to an extent, we all express
each of the four types. It's just that we tend to have one dominant type. We also can
have a subtype or a secondary type, but if you want to dive into that level of detail
again, you can go to Helen Fisher's website. So interestingly, when it comes to who are most likely to be attracted to, explorers
tend to go for other explorers, and builders tend to go for other builders.
However, directors tend to fall for negotiators, and negotiators fall for directors.
This is why I said earlier that the idea that opposites attract and the
idea that we stick with people that are like us are both true and it could depend on your
brain type. Let's come back for a moment and zoom in on this dynamic between directors
and negotiators, the dominant testosterone and estrogen brain types. Recently, I've been
doing a lot of thinking and reading about the balance of masculine and feminine energies in relationships. Now, again, this isn't linked to gender, but
is more about the energies in relationships, right? The traits you express. I'm a man,
obviously, and yet I also have many characteristics associated with more feminine energy. I'm in
sync with my emotions. I'm a hopeless romantic, I like to nurture close personal relationships, and I'm more of a web thinker.
And yet I also tend to be good at creating structure, thinking strategically, and some
of the other characteristics we classically think of as masculine.
What I often tell people is that it doesn't matter how much masculine or feminine energy
each of you has, and it doesn't matter your gender.
What matters to the success of a relationship
is that you make space to understand and balance these energies within your relationship.
I find it so interesting that these masculine and feminine energies so closely correlate
to the research that we just spoke about. Listen to our Fisher describe some of this
ebb and flow between the director and the negotiator. As she says, these types may enrich
each other biologically when the assertive director challenges the more passive negotiator,
the director may trigger the release of testosterone in the negotiator, thereby making the negotiator
more assertive too. And when the more affectionate negotiator strokes and hugs the director,
this physical contact may trigger the release of oxytocin
and estrogen in the competitive director,
perhaps making the director more trusting,
intuitive, compassionate, nurturing,
reflecting on what I've seen anecdotally
in my and other relationships,
and reading their science of brain chemistry,
I believe that it may be the fluctuating levels of testosterone
and estrogen in our brains that influence some of the flow and fluctuation of masculine and
feminine energies we feel and express in our relationships.
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negotiators and vice versa and yet builders often end up with builders and explorers often hunt
for other explorers. Why is that the case? Fisher says builders might seek out other
builders because of their shared traditional values that certainly bears out in my experience.
I have a friend who dated what she'd call bad boys in college. When it came time to choose
the one, she went for a guy who was loyal, reliable and family-oriented and they're still together
today and I'm certain they both score high on the builder scale. I also knew a couple who were in a builder explorer relationship. They
lasted about five years before breaking up, and when they did, the builder said she had finally just
grown exhausted by the explorer's constant need to go, go, go. On weekend, she wanted to nest in
Cuddleland, look at real estate. He wanted to go rock climbing and hiking.
Now another couple might have been able to make this work.
After all, we can take turns and mix it up, like going hiking on Saturday and staying
in and watching movies on Sunday.
But for this couple, each was so deeply dominant in their explorer and builder brains that
both got tired of compromising and couldn't make this work.
Explorers can be drawn to other explorers because they want someone to go adventuring with.
They like someone who likes them, likes to experience the pleasures of life.
They look for someone who can keep up with them and who wants to go to art galleries and shows
to concerts and festivals to learn,
act throwing and glass blowing into travel the world and eat exotic foods together.
So does that mean if you're a builder or an explorer, you have to find someone like you,
or that if you're a director, you have to find a negotiator? He's the good news, or perhaps the
frustrating news. We really can fall for and develop a lasting relationship with any of these
four brain types, no matter what type we are.
And that's because in addition to being heavily influenced by these brain chemicals,
we're also heavily influenced by our experiences.
There's also something called the love map that Fisher talks about.
Your love map includes all of the other things that influence who you're attracted to.
For example, you might gravitate towards someone who reminds you of your mother or your father,
or you may decidely not want to, someone who reminds you of your mother or father.
We're influenced by who we grew up with, our teachers, our friends, the values in the community we grew up in,
and so many other factors that while it's possible to narrow down who you're likely to be attracted to,
it's really difficult to predict who will actually fall in love with.
And Fisher should know because she's also the chief scientist for match.com.
She says there's no bad match among these brain types.
Each type of partnership simply has different strengths and weaknesses and a different
combination of traits.
So if we're single, how do we use this information about brain types to increase our odds of finding our perfect mate?
First, we can use it to understand ourselves and what's most important to us in a partner,
along with how we can attract that person.
And if we're already in a long-term relationship, understanding our and our partner's brain types can help us understand one another better. Here's what each brain type tends to need
and how they tend to act in relationships
along with some tips that can help each type find the one.
Explorers engage in a style of love that is playful
and they tend to seek a partner's entertaining or exciting.
Adventure and freedom are key elements
of their ideal relationship.
They tend to have trouble talking about their deep feelings, though, and they may use their exuberant personality and humour to deflect
questions or lines of conversation that feel too emotional.
If you're an explorer, your tendency to be impulsive and get involved with someone new
very quickly may interfere with your chances of developing a lasting relationship. Instead, slow down.
Give the relationship a chance to develop before you go big or go home. Explorers are also inclined
to make grand gestures and should think twice before giving extravagant presents or making big promises
right after they've started dating someone. To the explorer, that could be no big deal.
But to the person you're dating, it could be a signal, a serious commitment.
Also, explorers can be quick to write off people who seem too traditional.
And yet, if that builder has a bit of an explorer streaking them,
they could provide the perfect parents and balance
to create stability and a family. So be willing to look past your first impression and give the other person time to show you
who they are.
The Builders Love Style is more pragmatic and grounded in compatibility.
They may describe seeking a person who makes sense for them to be with.
A builder needs someone who is stable and who wants to be part of a team with them.
If you're a builder, you want to be courted.
You're the most likely to want those traditional behaviors
like opening the door for someone and being punctual,
or for the person you're dating to bring you flowers
or candy or other little gifts.
And builders tend to avoid drama.
That's probably one of the reasons they tend not to go
for explorers.
Builders need loyalty and stability in a partner.
Yet a builder's practical sensibilities can keep them from being adventurous.
You don't have to pretend you're an explorer, but it's healthy to try new things now and again.
Also, you appreciate being on time and sticking to plans, but inevitably life
happens.
Learning to be a bit more flexible and go with the flow and plan shift can
keep you from coming across this rigid. Builders are super social which is great, but you might want to avoid
introducing your new love interest to all of your friends and your family on the first date.
It can be a bit overwhelming. On the other side of things, builders can be extremely modest
almost to a fault. If you're interested in someone, don't be afraid to share your accomplishments with them. You can be open without bragging. For our directors, love can look more like
deep friendship and mutual respect. Directors tend not to be big into displays of emotions
and want a partner they find intellectually stimulating. They tend to be analytical
in how they approach dating and can seek out the nurturing and emotional qualities of a negotiator.
In their formulation, 1 plus 1 equals 2.
Together, they and the negotiator make a complete set. It's simple math.
A director brings the logic and structure and a negotiator the empathy and nurturing.
Directors tend to evaluate people they're dating pretty quickly.
You may want to avoid planning your future on the second date.
Try and resist your urge to cut to the chase and instead slow down and allow the relationship to bloom.
Try and enjoy the romance.
Also, your love of debate might give you a date, the impression that you're combative.
A spirited back and forth might feel fun to you, but to them, it might read as if you're too dominant in a conversation.
Try and key into your empathy and just listen for a while, without feeling the need to comment
on or offer a counterpoint to whatever your date says.
All you might need to engage some extra effort in expressing your emotions since that probably
doesn't come naturally to you.
Negotiators are into more of the style of love
that is nurturing and giving.
They're then to want a deep spiritual connection
with their partner and are looking for a soulmate.
Because negotiate is tend to be so flexible
and accommodating, they can be attractive to all brain types,
but it also means they may put their own needs
in the backseat in favor of caring for others.
Negotiators attender and they take love seriously.
They are the type most likely to take a break from dating after they've been disappointed
or had their heart broken. And that can happen frequently because they tend to dive into relationships
with their whole hearts. When dating negotiators tend to see all the possible future outcomes
of a potential relationship and then I can actually keep them from experiencing and enjoying what's happening right now.
Try and stay present with who's in front of you and what they're actually doing and saying
right now.
Negotiators are extremely perceptive, but this can backfire if you're trying to read
into every gesture at the person across the table.
So those are some tips for each brain type to find lasting love.
And just to underscore every brain type is awesome.
We all have little things, some big things we tend to trip up on.
And that's fine. It's normal.
It's part of our unique nature.
No one who's realistic is seeking perfection in themselves or others.
But once you've found that big love, how do you make it last?
Here are three strategies to stimulate those brain centers for happy long-term relationships.
Firstly, we want to stimulate the dopamine center, which feeds our feelings of romantic
love and engagement with our partner.
To do that, you're going to do something you may have heard me talk about before.
You're going to try new things together and do it on a regular basis.
It's great if you want to take a trip to Paris or to the Caribbean if you've never been before,
but these don't have to be grand gestures. They can be simple things,
rearrange the furniture together, listen to a new album together. I have a friend who during
the pandemic took a staycation with his wife and to mix it up they heighten new trail together
every day of the week.
Again, it doesn't have to be something big, though it can.
Second, we want to feed our serotonin system.
Serotonin balances dopamine.
When we have two months dopamine,
we can start to feel agitated and unsatisfied,
and serotonin helps keep that in check.
You can think of serotonin as the contentment chemical
because it supports deep attachment. The way we can feed our serotonin center is through physical contact, as Helen
Fisher puts it, stay in touch with one another. This isn't just about sex. Think about linking
arms when you walk, cuddling on the couch, reaching across the supper table to hold your
partners hand and looking their eyes while you listen to them talk. And the third and
final one that I want to share with you
is take more time to fall in love again
with the same person every month.
Take an opportunity to learn something new about them.
Take an opportunity to see them as a new person
because they're changing and you're changing.
How's that for a way to end our Valentine's Day episode?
I hope you found today's episode useful and insightful
and I hope you've learned something new that will help you find a nurture and amazing and fulfilling romantic
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without judgment, to heal, to learn, to grow, to become who you deserve to be. Deeply well with
Debbie Brown is available now
on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts,
or wherever you listen to podcasts.
Namaste.
Conquer your New Year's resolution
to be more productive with the before breakfast podcast.
In each bite-sized daily episode,
time management and productivity expert, Laura Vandercam,
teaches you how to make the most of your time, both at work and at home.
These are the practical suggestions you need to get more done with your day.
Just as lifting weights keeps our bodies strong as we age, learning new skills is the mental
equivalent of pumping iron.
Listen to Before Breakfast on the I Heart Radio app or wherever you get your podcasts.
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