On Purpose with Jay Shetty - 3 Strategies Confident People Use to Overcome Their Ego
Episode Date: December 11, 2020Ego is often cast as the enemy of our personal growth, something to vanquish or release. But letting go of ego is far easier said than done. On this episode of On Purpose with Jay Shetty, Jay outlines... three strategies to build a healthier relationship with ego by reimagining its purpose. How can the ego be harnessed to strengthen your humility and mental wellbeing? Tune in to this week’s dive into the anti-hero in everyone. Share your reflections of today’s episode by answering this week’s call-to-action: What did I do right today and what could I do better tomorrow?See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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Hey everyone, welcome back to another episode of On Purpose.
I'm so glad to be back and recording these weekly workshops with you because I love,
love, love researching, I love learning, I love preparing and I love getting to deliver
these deep dives into our minds and human behavior together.
Now this is going gonna be a fascinating episode
because we're talking about something
that is so, so relevant to each and every single one of us
in so many different ways.
And I wanna dive straight in.
How many of you feel anxious?
How many of you feel worried?
How many of you feel overwhelmed?
That's how a lot of you tell me you're feeling these days. And I get it. There's so much going on in the world. We're meeting challenges
we've never seen before. And when it comes to the pandemic, what we thought at first
would be a few laps around the block, we endure the brief lockdown has actually turned into
an ultra marathon. Over the past few months, I've talked about dealing with anxiety and
loneliness and ways to try and prepare yourself to come back even stronger once we start to
find our new normal. But there's something missing. There's something I haven't talked
about yet that actually plays a huge role in your
ability to deal with setbacks, especially the big ones, especially the ones that feel
just crushing when they happen.
And that's dealing with your ego.
Today, I'm going to help you uncover the role your ego is playing in these feelings of anxiety and overwhelm.
And I'm going to share with you some strategies and ideas for how to think about your ego in a bit of a healthier way.
Plus, I'm going to share with you three ways to make your ego work for you instead of against you.
Now, I'm sure you're finding it perplexing too because you're thinking ego, J, really,
like, how does that fit into anxiety and worry? And so I hope that this approach will be counterintuitive
and fresh for you. Now, as you know, I'm doing something a bit special right now here on the
Friday episode of on purpose where taking one chapter at a time from my book, think like a monk,
and using a paragraph for a few key phrases from that chapter as a jumping off point
to go deeper.
This week I decided to take something from chapter 8, we're mixing it up, and of course
that chapter is about ego, and here's the passage from the book I wanted to dive into today.
You can only keep up the myth of your own importance for so long. If you don't break your ego, life
will break it for you. Now, I bet when I read that last part, that life will break your
ego for you, some of you nodded and you can relate. Some of you groaned, some of you
slouched, because you know that feeling and that experience, you
know what it's like to have a life break your ego for you.
I know I do.
I tell the story in the book of how when I decided to leave the ashram and no longer be a monk
and how one of my teachers even said, Jay, I think maybe this isn't the right place for you anymore.
And how absolutely crushed I was.
And after I left the ashram,
I was standing there in my parents' kitchen
because I had moved back in with them.
And I was looking at the window thinking,
how can someone fail at being a monk?
What am I going to do now?
What will people say? What will people think?
How will I respond to this? It was one of the most humbling experience of my life,
because before I left to be a monk, people had said, I told you so. Now I was proving them right.
There have of course been other times too that my ego has been shattered,
like trying to find a job after that and sending out 100 resumes and having everyone rejected
without an interview, I was like, wow,
I can't even get an interview
because surprise, surprise, no one wants to hire a monk.
What's your transferable skills,
like silence and space and stillness?
I know a lot of you know what that's like.
And maybe, well, not the monk part, but the work part.
And maybe you're even going through something like that right now
I
Know how terrible that felt and I also know that those experiences turned out to be some of the most powerful and meaningful in my life
Now what I'm not going to tell you to do is to look on the bright side or just do positive thinking and trust that everything will work out
Because I also know that right now when you're actually going through it, it's not the time for that. It's not helpful
for people to tell you those things. Your pain and your struggle are real and I just want
to acknowledge that. The other thing is that when we tell our stories of realization and
of the times we've had a major learning experience or triumph in our lives, when we create those versions of ourselves, we're sharing with other people, we're sharing our
memoir, not our journal.
And I'll explain what I mean by that.
For those of you journal, and it's a great practice that science shows is especially
helpful in recognizing and processing feelings.
So I really recommend it.
But for those of you who journal, what is journaling?
You sit down and write what you are feeling and what you're going through in that moment,
right? At this time in your life. But when you write a memoir or an autobiography, you
sit down and you reflect back on the things that have happened in your life and the path
you've traveled. And you see and create this overarching and unifying story that makes sense
of everything. And that's when you look back and you say, that thing that was so hard and
so terrible at the time, it turned out to be one of my greatest sources of strength or
a major catalyst for change in my life. And that's why I'm where I am today.
So, that knowledge and that awareness and that story
pretty much always come together in the rearview mirror.
What we're talking about today is how to deal with what's happening right now.
Now, the ego has gotten a lot of bad press,
even in my own book,
I talk about the struggles of overcoming your ego
and its tendency to make you want to focus on yourself
almost exclusively sometimes.
It can be responsible for a lot of the harsh criticism
you put on yourself,
and it can narrow your vision so you only think about yourself and how
things impact you. Ego is responsible for our victim mentality, which again bad things
really do happen to people. I'm not trying to minimize that.
Bespending all of your time in a victim mindset keeps you from feeling empowered to do what
you're capable of and to change the things that actually are
in your power.
And we'll talk a bit more about that in a minute.
The point is that a lot of the time when we talk about ego, we see it as something bad,
a source of most of our negative self-defeating and self-serving behavior.
Ego is a force. We have to overcome. Ego death and killing your ego has become
something that's really popular to talk about these days because it's something pretty
much all of us struggle with. We've all heard the phrase ego is the enemy, but there's
a quote by Abraham Lincoln that got me thinking about that idea. And that quote was, do I not destroy my enemies by making them my friends?
And I really got hooked on that idea.
Because in the book, I talk about this monk tactic of making fear your friend and of making
anxiety your friend.
And when we do this, we can make these things work for us rather than against us.
They become tools rather than tormentors.
And I realize it's the same with our ego.
And he is the thing with your ego.
It can die a thousand deaths.
And it will still return.
It will still resurrect.
As much as I was taught by these amazing teachers,
and as much as I've worked on this idea of ego death,
it's like the terminator.
I mean, there is no molten metal or some kind of equivalent
that will kill it off once and for all.
It just keeps coming back.
But what if we could actually befriend our egos
and use it for good to help and support us?
Now, this is a fine line.
And there's every chance that your ego
can manipulate you and confuse you,
but it is a viable
and important and very valid option that we need to explore.
Muslim poet and philosopher and politician Muhammad Ikbal once said,
the ultimate aim of the ego is not to see something, but to be something.
And I love that quote,
because that to me really points out
both the positive and negative aspects of the ego.
Or words that I started using these days,
instead of positive and negative,
are unhealthy and healthy.
Right, healthy ideas, healthy thoughts,
unhealthy ideas, unhealthy thoughts.
When we think of healthy and unhealthy,
we think about the impacts in the way we do with our physical.
Let me say it again in case you missed it.
The quote was, the ultimate aim of the ego
is not to see something, but to be something.
When we have an imbalance of ego,
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When we have an imbalance of ego, it obscures our vision.
It blocks things from our sight.
And this isn't just a metaphor.
It's literally true.
What researchers call self-focused attention
has been shown in hundreds of studies
to have a strong correlation with something
called negative effect, which can include feelings
of anxiety and depression.
And you know if you felt a lot of anxiety and depression. And you know, if you
felt a lot of anxiety, you had periods of depression that when you're in those states, your vision
and your perception of life is narrowed. Sometimes it feels like it's literally impossible to see
the good in yourself or sometimes to see the good in other people. But really, usually when we judge
other people, it's because we feel some kind of insecurity
deep within ourselves.
But here's something important.
Though the ego creates this self-focus, not all self-focus is bad.
After all, we want to be self-aware.
We want to spend time noticing what we're thinking and saying.
We want to have goals and aspirations.
We want to strive to be something, to be more connected and compassionate and kinder and more successful.
So there are two kinds of self-focus.
And it's important to differentiate them
because one directs us towards that harmful ego
and the other to the helpful ego.
The harmful kind of self-focus is rumination.
When we spend a lot of time
focusing on ourselves and worry about what could go wrong or about what someone did or didn't
or do or say or what we did or didn't do or say, when we run those thoughts and feelings
in a loop, that's rumination. But then there's the helpful kind of self-focus called mindful
self-focus. That's what we spend time developing our self-awareness, not judging ourselves, but seeing
our strengths and weaknesses clearly without self-judgment.
And believe it or not, the ego is largely responsible for both.
That same force inside you that says, I can't believe she hasn't called.
She must be mad at me.
I probably said something wrong again.
She's probably going to break up with me.
Just like my last girlfriend, I don't understand
why no one can see the real me.
She's just a loser anyway.
The same force that plays that tape
can also play a different one.
Dr. Joe Dispenser, who's been a guest on the podcast
if you haven't heard it, it's a great episode. Has a great one. Dr. Joe Dispenser, who's been a guest on the podcast, if you haven't
heard it, it's a great episode, has a great example of it. When he told me about a routine
he has, that at the end of each day, he asks himself, what did I get right today? And what could
I do better tomorrow? There's no harsh judgment there, just to desire to see ourselves clearly and to acknowledge
that we can pretty much always do better.
That's ego, too.
That drive and motivation to do better, because we wouldn't ask ourselves what we could do
better if something inside us didn't think we were capable of it.
A healthy ego, not only urges us on, it reminds us to care for ourselves because we value ourselves.
If we spend all of our time focusing on other people because deep inside we feel unworthy,
we don't focus enough on ourselves. We don't stop to consider how we're doing and what
our own basic needs along with our dreams and goals. Whereas rumination or overthinking procrastination feels like humiliation. Mindful self-focus feels like humility.
And humility is that balance point of our egos. I heard an incredible story the other day from a man named Jonathan Gravenor,
who is a journalist and former TV personality on CTV. In 2012, he was diagnosed with late stage throat cancer.
To distract himself from his fear and anxiety, he started taking long walks around the city.
When he began to notice a homeless man on the street corner with a sign that read,
help. A first Jonathan was angry.
How dare you, he thought, you're not a victim. I am. The kids I see at chemo are victims, not you.
But one day the man's little dog came over to Jonathan and sat down in front of him.
Molly only goes to people who need something the man said. So what do you need?
Jonathan started to chat with the man
whose name he found out was Doug.
The next day, Jonathan brought Doug a sandwich
and a coffee.
He didn't want to give Doug money
because after all he thought he would just spend
on alcohol or drugs.
When he offered the sandwich, Doug said,
I'll only eat it if you share it with me. And when Jonathan sat down to share the sandwich, Doug said, I'll only eat it if you share it with me.
And when Jonathan sat down to share the sandwich with Doug,
he saw that there was writing on Doug's sign
under the word help.
When he asked about it, Doug said,
those are the names of the organizations I'm raising money for.
Suddenly, I realized, Jonathan said, that it wasn't him that was disabled. It was me.
The judgment that I had blinded me to the truth of this man's graciousness.
Jonathan continued to visit with Doug.
Eventually, Doug noticed a scar on Jonathan's throat and asked about it.
Jonathan explained about the cancer to which Doug said,
I know you're going to be okay.
Jonathan nodded, yeah, well, I feel I am.
I'm going through radiation and treatment.
No, Doug stopped him.
Craving Jonathan's arm.
You're going to be okay.
You have a lot more to do.
Jonathan walked away that day, not only believing you really would live, you're going to be okay, you have a lot more to do.
Jonathan walked away that day, not only believing he really would live,
but also believing for the first time in his life
that he had a real purpose.
When Jonathan went back to the corner next day
and the next and the next looking for Doug, he was gone.
Yet what Doug said to Jonathan that day changed Jonathan's life. And he did live.
And from that point on, he lived differently. He engaged with people on a deeper basis and began
to cultivate meaningful relationships and to try and truly help others. As Jonathan says,
he'd spend most of his life trying to get close to glamorous and truly help others. As Jonathan says, he'd spend most of his life
trying to get close to glamorous and famous people,
the people who mattered and avoid the homeless.
And yet it was the homeless man who gave him his life back,
who inspired him in the belief that he really did
have something of value to give the world.
As Jonathan puts it,
someone I thought had so
little to give gave me so much. I talk in the book about the humility and humiliation.
When we get our egos checked, it's often because we've been humiliated. We're publicly
embarrassed, we're dumped, we lose our jobs, any number of things. But humiliation is also an ego imbalance.
If we're humiliated and we start feeling terrible about ourselves, we get trapped in victim
mode again and again and we start to ruminate.
When our ego is truly balanced, we have humility.
And how we develop humility is not from a place of humiliation, but from a
place of self-esteem. Think about it. When you have healthy self-esteem and your ego is
balanced, you feel good about yourself and your abilities, but you don't feel like you're
superior to others. That's true humility. When Jonathan was humbled by his experience
with Doug,
he could have allowed himself to be humiliated,
to go off and hide and ruminate about what a terrible life he'd led.
Instead, he chose to retask his ego.
He saw it as the power of belief in himself to change his own life
and become more connected, giving, and a caring person.
One of my teachers, rather than a Swami writes,
humility gives us access to the grace required
to overcome obstacles,
especially the most difficult one, the ego.
We don't have to kill the ego to become humble.
We have to realize our real ego or self
by liberating it from the false ego
and be true to ourselves.
But how do we do this?
Here are three things you can do to help you find that balance point for your ego
when you can use its powers for good,
to spend less time in self-criticism and more in self-connection.
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but from the moment I was born, it's been a part of my life.
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As you list what you've received from another person,
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Switch gears and reflect back on a time
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Neuroscience backs this approach as well.
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you make it easier for your brain to feel those feelings,
realize those opportunities, and approach life with that attitude.
You start to see your life in present time more clearly.
The second technique for balancing your ego
is to practice mindful self-focus.
And I'm going to borrow Dr. Joe Dispens's technique
and encourage you to have a brief self-review
at the end of every day.
Just try it for a week and see the impact.
Sometime before going to bed, find a quiet moment to ask yourself, what went well today?
And what can I do better tomorrow? Remember, write this down right now, right? This is not
about judgment. It's about acknowledging, we all do something as well, and we can all
do something better. Write those two questions down right now. Take a screenshot of this,
come back to this. I want you to do this every day for a week and see what you learn.
The third technique for balancing your ego is to keep giving the gift.
And here's what I mean by that.
People often ask me if it's harder now to keep my ego in check than it used to be when I was a monk.
Before, when I lived as a monk, I had two robes
and almost no other possessions.
Life was not what you'd call flashy.
And even though I do my best to stay grounded today,
obviously things have changed.
And so people ask me if I ever struggle with ego.
And the answer is yes, of course I do.
And sometimes I struggle as a monk too.
That's the nature of ego we all have one regardless of our circumstances.
When it comes to how I handled that, I lean on one of the techniques I learned as a monk.
That is that every time someone pays me a compliment, or if I say I achieve a goal or a big milestone,
I think of that as a gift.
The first thing I do is accept the gift and appreciate it. Often we brush it
aside, we shirk it, we neglect it, we reject it. It's important to receive it just like
a gift in your home. The second thing I do is to pass that gift on to someone else. What
that looks like is that I acknowledge a personal situation in the past that actually is the
person who gave me that skill or that ability or the thing
that the person's noticing.
So, for example, if you said to me, Jay, we love learning from you, we learn so much from
your book and your podcast, then after receiving it gratefully, I passed that on to my teachers
who taught me what you're being grateful for.
Another example is if I'm recognized for some active service, for instance, I receive
the acknowledgement with gratitude fully that I think of my monk teachers who taught
me so many lessons about the value and importance of service.
And I express gratitude to them.
I do this silently to myself, those sometimes when I see my teachers, I get the chance
to actually tell them in person.
And that's really important too.
You're acknowledging that you're not a fully self-made person.
None of us are.
Even if we worked very hard and had very little given to us or provided
or someone actually hurt us,
those people and situations helped to shape us as well.
So even someone who helped us indirectly still helped us.
Here's an example of that.
If someone gave me a compliment like J. You're so resilient, that's really cool.
Or J. You really seem to be able to bounce back from disappointment,
I would thank them for that compliment and feel that deep gratitude.
And then I would think back to the times and situations
where I was disappointed or had to overcome obstacles.
I may end up in my mind expressing gratitude to a boss
who fired me or a girlfriend that I didn't
feel treated me right. Anyone who presented me with what I now see were opportunities to
learning grow. And I'm grateful to myself that I was able to do that, to do the work of learning
and growing from those experiences. And that is how we cultivate that humility. We acknowledge and accept our abilities and accomplishments.
And we also honor those people and situations
that helped us develop them.
There's a beautiful quote from an Indian philosopher
named Nisar Gadatta that goes,
love tells me I am everything, wisdom tells me I am nothing.
And between these two banks flows the river of my
life. Learn to use the power of your ego to support you. Instead of holding you
back and your life can flow like that river. I really hope this has been
helpful today. I hope that you've really dived into the ego. I dive deeply into
the ego, my book, but I want you to share what you've learned on Instagram. I love seeing your insights.
I hope that you're going to practice these tools. That's the key thing. I want you to apply them in
your life and experience the difference. Thank you for listening to On Purpose. I hope you share
this episode. I'm so grateful to have you here. See you next week.
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