On Purpose with Jay Shetty - 4 Communication Mistakes That Hurt Relationships & 4 Ways To Fix It Forever
Episode Date: May 1, 2020Ever feel like you’re trying to communicate but the message just isn’t getting through? Jay Shetty explains that while digital interactions have become a lifeline, they lack the closeness of face-...to-face personal connections. As we strive for authentic connections, focusing on improving our communication skills is key. Listen in to learn the mistakes you make that signal you're not interested and how to fix them so you can stay connected & nourish your relationships. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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friend onto your colleague at work
who you think is struggling with the same thing.
But actually it's a bit more unique.
But for them it's different.
And finishing sentences or predicting sentences means your mind is running ahead while
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Hey everyone, welcome back to On Up Purpose.
Thank you so much for coming back to this week's episode.
Now I know that for the past few weeks,
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I'm genuinely meditating.
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So today I wanted to talk about this very interesting topic that I think super relevant right now,
but it's relevant in general as well. And it's called the four communication mistakes we make in relationships and four ways to rapidly
improve them.
Now here's what I feel about right now.
We're having to communicate differently.
I know that a lot of us are sitting on Zoom calls for hours every day.
We're on apps like WhatsApp and FaceTime and WebEx and whatever
else it may be. And we're changing the way we communicate, not just for work, but with
the people that we love the most, people that we're so close to. And digital communication
has its own pros and cons, right? There's pros to it. You can connect with anyone, anytime,
anywhere. And it's incredible that we can do that.
But at the same time, you want to really hug someone.
You want to have a heart to heart with someone.
You want to open up your mind to someone,
and you want to have that deep connection with someone as well.
And so listening and communication are such big parts
of what we're experiencing right now,
and improving our communication skills increases our connection.
Listen to that again, it's really, really important.
Improving our communication skills increases our connection.
If you're feeling lonely, if you're feeling disconnected,
if you're feeling disengaged
right now, a lot of that is because we're not communicating effectively because we've
never had to communicate in this way before.
And we have to give ourselves the space and the stillness and the lack of judgment and
guilt to feel that we can move on from this because guess what?
None of us expected this.
No one was trained for this. No one was prepared for this. But it is a great opportunity to
improve our communication skills. So they're not only are they better online, but they'll
be better offline as well. But if we have better communication, we'll feel more connected
to the people that we love. How many times have you been on a phone call or a Zoom call? And after it finishes, you're like, what did we even talk about? What did what? I
don't even know what we felt. Like, I don't even know how the time went by. And you kind of feel
like you don't even remember if you were present or not. And presence is something that we struggle
with communication a ton. I remember I've heard it been said before in a speech in other places that, you know,
we don't have a retention problem.
We have an attention problem like we struggle with being attentive.
We think it's that we can't remember something that we forget stuff.
It's actually that we were never actually there.
Like we weren't present enough to actually even remember it that we forget stuff. It's actually that we were never actually there, like we weren't present enough to actually
even remember it in the first place.
So I was looking at some research about this as well and before I dive into that, I think
I wanted to talk about what I meant by communication for today.
So we often think of communication as speaking and talking.
And of course, that is part of it, but you've probably heard the saying before that we have
two years in one mouth for a reason,
which would mean we should listen 66% of the time
and speak 33% of the time,
but either way, listening is a huge part of communication.
And to be honest, listening is the foundation of communication.
Listening is the heart of communication
because you can never truly connect with someone
if you don't listen to them.
And I found some interesting research that I read by Rebecca Lake and in it she was talking about
how research suggests that the average person hears between 20,000 to 30,000 words during the course
of a 24-hour period.
It's crazy to think of that.
But listen to this, she also found
that people spend between 70 to 80% of their day
engaged in some form of communication
and 55% of their time is devoted to listening.
So I wasn't that far off with my 66% just based on
two years and one mouth. But I want to talk to you about
the mistakes we make during communicating because I think that when you become more aware and the
reason why I start with the mistakes is the more aware you become of the mistakes, the better you
are at making the right changes. Because we can easily spot what we do wrong. And when we spot what we
do wrong, we can limit how much we do it. Whereas if we don't spot what we do wrong,
then it becomes harder to actually improve from any situation that we're in. Now this
episode was inspired by a conversation I was having recently with Glennon Doyle, so
Glennon's the author of Untamed and Love Warrior, and she was on the podcast
on Monday, and she was incredible. I absolutely love talking to her. We've connected so wonderfully,
and on top of all of that, we did a live together as well, and Instagram live. And this was
inspired by a conversation me and her we're having about listening and communication. And here's
what I found that these are the four mistakes we make when we're
communicating and specifically when we're listening. So the first mistake we make when we're
listening is that we reflect everything onto ourselves. So I'll give you an example to make it
more simple. If someone goes, Hey, so I've been thinking about going to Hawaii this year and then
you go, Yeah, I was thinking about Hawaii or I just went there or my friend just went there. Or someone
says, Oh, you know, we've been thinking about moving. You're like, Oh, yeah, yeah, I just,
I just went and saw this really nice house. Or, you know, I'm really struggling right now. My,
my family is going through something. My parents are going through something. Oh, yeah, my
parents are going through something too. Now, this is a natural reaction. And I'm not saying that the response in and of itself
is negative.
What I'm saying is that when we're reflecting everything
onto ourselves, we're doing it maybe to try and connect
or find some common ground.
But actually, it stops us from listening.
See, when that person is telling you
that they're telling you something positive,
like they're thinking about a vacation or a new home, or they're telling you about something they're struggling with, whether someone's ill in their
family or a challenge they've been through, they're seeking to be understood. Right? That is such a big
need for all of us to feel understood. And it's true that we do feel understood when we feel we're speaking to someone who has been
in our position, but we don't want it to be premature.
So it's really important that when you see this approach, and often for a few people,
it can actually be quite egocentric.
Now, this may be not true of you, but you may remember being on a date with someone,
where every time you said something, they made it about them.
Or every time you had something that was struggling, you were struggling with, they made it about them. Or every time you had something that was struggling,
you were struggling with, they made it about them again.
And so often it comes from wanting to connect,
but often it can come from ego as well.
And that ego-centric approach to listening,
or the trying too hard to be empathetic approach to listening,
both of them actually make the speaker feel like they're
not understood.
And I think we've all experienced this in different times in our life where when you're
really trying to share something and someone starts talking and deflecting back their
experience, you kind of feel like, oh, well, maybe I shouldn't even bother right now.
Right.
So if you are going to have this response, first of all,
make sure it's not from ego. Second of all, if you're sharing it in an empathetic way,
then make sure that you articulate that effectively. Hey, I'm listening to you. I understand what
you're saying. I connect with, I resonate with it. And I think that this situation that
I went through may help us both have this conversation. So it's important to articulate that and explain that so that the other person knows
the owner journey with you. The challenge with the egocentric approach is that we're basically
saying that, oh, I've been through that before. And so I know what the right answer is.
And often that's not really what the person's looking for. The person again is seeking
to just be deeply heard and deeply understood.
And the best thing you can give them at that time is time, right?
Just time to hear them, just time to support them and serve them.
So the big takeaway on this one is when you are going to share your response of empathy,
explain why you're sharing that response
and why it's relevant.
So for example, if I've been,
so I went to Miki Nos last year,
we went from my wife's cousin's wedding,
who's a really good friend of ours as well.
And so we went to Miki Nos.
So if someone said to me,
hey, I'm going to Miki Nos for a wedding,
I may say, hey, I just went there last year
and it was great.
And here's the things that I would recommend that you could do.
Right, and that would be a normal conversation to have, but if someone's saying,
hey, I've got a father or a mother struggling with this, I've got this challenge.
And let's say you've never been through that. One of the biggest mistakes you can make is,
oh, I know what that feels, or I know how that feels, or I've been through something different
with my third cousin or my uncle, and then it feels different. And so sometimes just hearing out and not having a response,
especially if it's a challenging situation,
can be really, really helpful.
And be mindful of the ego-centric response.
Maybe you don't do it, but when you sense it in someone,
it's a sign that the person is constantly trying to bring
the conversation back to what's happening in their life
and what's happening to them.
And notice it when you do do that, if you do that,
because again, it just disengages you,
it pushes the other person away,
rather than bringing you closer together.
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The second mistake that we make in listening and communication is a beautiful statement
by Kovie. And what he said is that we do not listen to understand, we listen to reply.
We do not listen to understand, we listen to replies
what Koby said and I think this is one of the biggest mistakes in listening. How many
times when you're listening have you only got into your mind what you're going to say next?
And you're spending all your time and energy trying to figure out what you're going to say next
that you're not really understanding or really
listening to what the other person has to say. Now this is something I have to really monitor
closely when I'm recording a podcast with someone. So if I'm interviewing someone for a podcast,
it becomes really, really challenging because I can start thinking about the next question.
I can start thinking about the next topic that we need to speak about. I can start thinking about the next question. I can start thinking about the next topic that we need to speak about.
I can start thinking about another question that I planned.
And I've realized that actually the best conversations are where we're in the moment because you
ask the most natural question.
You ask the question that has the best connection.
You ask the question that you really believe the audience and the community wants to hear
and that I want to hear.
Whereas if you're just thinking down your list of questions,
it ruins it, and this applies to dates,
it applies to FaceTime calls,
it applies to colleagues, calls, and everything.
Like when we're on a work call
and you're just trying to say the next smartest thing,
it's not the next smartest thing
because it doesn't feel contextually relevant.
Like you can't, you can always prepare
for a good conversation, of course.
You must prepare for a good conversation. Of course, you must
prepare for meetings and everything. But my point is that a pre-rehearsed answer, a pre-rehearsed
thought or question or a just a reactive statement that isn't really listening stops you from
having the moment. And what we do is we're so scared of having a moment of silence. We're so scared of that silence, right?
In a conversation, you're always trying to fill the gaps.
You don't want that awkward silence.
We don't want that moment where we're like, oh, I don't know what to say.
Are they expecting me to say something?
We're scared of that.
But actually, because we're scared of that, we're constantly just thinking of the next
thing to say.
And then we're not listening again properly to the other person.
So the change we can make to that is that we can listen to really understand.
And a good technique that's commonly used in psychology is explaining to the other person first what we understood.
And that also gives you time to think about the right answer.
So after someone finishes speaking, actually saying, hey, well, I just want to quickly summarize what I think I heard from you just to make sure. Now, there's a lot of wins in saying that statement.
Number one, the win is you're showing that you're actually listening. People are going to take
you seriously. The second thing is, when you articulate it, you give that person an opportunity
to make sure that they're articulating themselves effectively.
So if you think you work with someone
or speak to someone that isn't very clear,
but you're saying this,
you're actually making them realize what they sound like.
And now they can be more focused
on how they speak and share what they're saying.
So you're winning already on a couple of fronts here
and then another win with that statement
is that you actually get to clarify
what you're both
trying to do in that relationship and connect and you really make the other person feel understood.
So remember that, don't listen to reply, listen to understand as Koby said, and that will
keep you in such a strong position in any communication you do work or personal.
And it's really, really important to keep that
as a top, top priority.
Now the third mistake we make, the third mistake we make is that we all try and be Google.
And what I mean by Google is when it Google auto fills your search.
So we try to finish people's sentences and how annoying is it when someone doesn't
and they get it wrong, right?
When you're with a friend and you're both laughing
and you both remember a movie and you say it at the same time
or you remember a song and you say it at the same time
or whatever it is, like those are all great moments
where you're like, oh, there's so much synergy
and there's so much connection.
But the worst thing is, is when you're talking to someone
and they keep trying to complete your sentences
or even guess the word you're looking for and they're getting it wrong because they keep trying to complete your sentences or even guess the
word you're looking for and they're getting it wrong because they're not really listening.
And so we're not like Google, Autofill or Autosert, or predictive search or whatever it's called.
And when you're trying to predict what someone's going to say, again, you're putting them
into a box, you're putting them into line with what everyone else thinks and says. Now,
I remember this moment I spoke at Queen Mary's London University quite a few years back
now before I start making videos, probably like 2014 or something like that. And when
I was speaking there, I remember I did a Q&A session at the end. And after the Q&A finished,
this guy came up to me,
one of the students who is listening,
and he said to me, he said,
how do you answer every, he goes,
you've probably heard every single one of those questions
a hundred times.
He was like, you probably speak a lot,
you probably heard them a hundred times.
He said, how do you listen to each question
as if you were hearing it for the first time
and answer it in that way
so that it's genuine.
Now, the amazing thing is that since he asked me that question, that has been my meditation
every time I answer a question.
So what I remind myself is this, I may have answered that question a thousand times.
Like when people ask me, Jay, how do I find my passion?
Jay, how do I know when I'm ready to start a
relationship? How do I know when I'm dating a person who's good for me?
Like these are all common questions I get asked. And it may feel every time you
answer them and you may feel this in your relationship with your partners or
your colleagues or your boss. And it's easy to think, well, I've answered that
question a thousand times. Why don't you just do this? But what I realize is that even if I've answered that question a thousand times,
for that person, it's the first time they've asked it.
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It is a fresh experience.
It's not a recycled answer that's going to work.
It's not just a recycled door.
And when I give it that much intention
and I realize I have to listen with fresh ears
and I have to understand with fresh eyes
every single person, instead of finishing the sentence
and predicting what you think the other person's issue is.
It's so easy to reflect the struggle conversation
you had with a friend onto your colleague at work
who you think is struggling with the same thing.
But actually, it's a bit more unique.
It can be in the same area of their life.
It can be in the same area of their experience.
But for them, it's different.
And finishing sentences or predicting sentences
means your mind is running ahead
while that person is trying to find clarity.
And if you're running ahead,
what ends up happening is that person
ends up feeling like you're not listening,
ends up feeling like you're disengaged,
and ultimately ends up feeling like you don't understand them.
Now just think about it for a moment.
How many of these things that I'm talking about
in today's episode, are we doing more of
because we live in such close quarters with people? Right now we're indoors, we're with people all day and it's so easy to just
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it's such a common one, but I want to mention it here because when we're finishing sentences,
it can also feel like we're distracted. When you're distracted, or better, let's put it this way, when you're focused and someone's trying to get your attention,
it's important to share with them and say, hey, I really value you, I really want to talk about this,
but give me five minutes to finish this off. It's so important to communicate that,
rather than snapping back, or trying to be the big person and the great person trying to help
and then getting frustrated in the process.
And trust me, I've done these so many times.
I've done that so many times.
Rather, my amazing wife will ask me something,
I'm preoccupied.
I then stop trying to pretend like I'm doing
as some sort of favor and then I'm upset
rather than just being like,
hey, I'll literally just give me 10 minutes
to finish this off and I'll be with you.
It's so important, right?
So important.
So finishing sentences, predicting what people are going to say, getting distracted, the way
it can be solved is the finishing sentences is recognized that each person who shares something
is sharing something unique. And every time you get distracted or you're focused on something and someone wants your attention,
listen to them, but explain to them. It's so important to explain.
And if they're upset by that explanation, then you've done your best.
And I think that's the point here that when you're listening, it's about doing your best.
Even if you reiterate to someone, here's what I think you said.
And they're like, no, they're like, no, you got it wrong.
That's a great learning point.
And actually, that gives them an opportunity to explain it better too.
So don't let those things discourage you.
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The fourth and final mistake that we make in communication and listening is while we're
listening, we're judging and forming opinions quickly.
The challenge with this is that how many times have you had it where someone
sharing something you make an assumption or a judgment and then afterwards you
realize you were wrong and then it's painful because you're like, oh how could I
be so stupid or how could I be so silly to just judge that and jump to that
conclusion and so we do that when we listen to people, we just jump to conclusions.
And it's really important, of course,
to avoid doing that because it ends up
actually creating more divide again.
When you judge someone or you build an opinion
of someone quickly, I mean, no one feels good about that.
No one appreciates that experience, right?
I don't know anyone who does that.
So it's so important, so important that you don't want to appreciate that experience, right? I don't know anyone who does that. So it's so important, so important that you don't just judge and you don't just create that assumption
on someone, you let them speak fully. And this is what it means to listen fully, right?
Really important to listen fully, as opposed to what we do is we listen short and make a
long opinion, rather than listening for a long period of
time before we form that. So the answer is to listen deeply, to listen completely and deeply
and recognize that your assumptions or opinions or judgments are entitled to them, but while listening
you are just distracting yourself from what that person's trying to share.
So it's so important that we give our raptor attention
to listen to someone's full story
before we give them our perspective.
And this full story is so important
because in someone sharing a story,
there's just so much they have to explain.
And I think I've done that in my life
many times where you, you know, it's like the tip of the iceberg analogy of you hear the tip of
the iceberg of what someone's going through and you're like, oh, I know what that is. I judge it.
I have an opinion on it. And then you realize there's this massive foundation of the iceberg below
where everything's actually happening and you completely missed that. So these are the four mistakes we make
while listening, we reflect everything onto ourselves.
Remember, it can be extreme empathy,
like over empathy, trying to understand
or it's egocentric to do it.
The second is COVID statement.
We do not listen to understand, we listen to reply.
The third mistake we make is we finish sentences.
We try and be like Google and predict.
The fourth mistake we make is we judge and forms opinions quickly before listening completely
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explain empathetically why that is useful to the other person. Second, instead of listening to
reply, listen to understand and explain what you have understood before giving your answer.
Number three, instead of finishing someone's sentences and predicting what you think they're
going to say, listen deeply and clearly.
Number four, listen completely instead of judging an opinion quickly, give that person
time to express how they truly, truly feel.
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