On Purpose with Jay Shetty - 4 Steps to Be More Productive Tomorrow & How to Stop Letting Pressure From Others Control You (With Special Guest Ed Mylett)
Episode Date: February 24, 2023Today, I am going to share with you a conversation I had with serial entrepreneur, author, podcast host, and inspirational speaker Ed Mylett. In this interview, I talk about why we should build and pr...actice a morning routine to help incorporate positivity in our day, the two opposite sides of ego that we don’t know about, and how being in service of others is a reflection of inner self.   You can order my new book 8 RULES OF LOVE at 8rulesoflove.com or at a retail store near you. You can also get the chance to see me live on my first ever world tour. This is a 90 minute interactive show where I will take you on a journey of finding, keeping and even letting go of love. Head to jayshettytour.com and find out if I'll be in a city near you. Thank you so much for all your support - I hope to see you soon.Key Takeaways:00:00 Intro03:18 Jay explains how we can create calm instead of looking for it.05:10 What am I going to learn from a monk?09:04 Digest this: Plant trees under whose shade you do not plan to sit.11:36 How to avoid becoming the person you think other people want you to be. 15:01 The two lies we’ve been told growing up.20:19 The 3 core aspects to incorporate in your morning routine.28:09 Jay talks about the two opposite sides of ego.30:27 What it means to find yourself when you lose yourself in service of others.34:02 How do you take control of something you can’t control?37:51 The monk life teaches you how to be child-like.41:18 Do this if you want to start living a better life.  Episode Resources:Ed Mylett | WebsiteEd Mylett | InstagramEd Mylett | YouTubeEd Mylett | Books Like this show? Please leave us a review here - even one sentence helps! Post a screenshot of you listening on Instagram & tag us so we can thank you personally!Want to be a Jay Shetty Certified Life Coach? Get the Digital Guide and Workbook from Jay Shetty https://jayshettypurpose.com/fb-getting-started-as-a-life-coach-podcast/See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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Thank you so much.
I'm so grateful for this.
Honestly, just walking into your home today
and experiencing your energy firsthand.
Thank you.
You feel the power of your energy on social media.
I feel it when I'm following you,
but I feel the presence right now.
So I just want to say thank you, honestly.
Thank you, bro.
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before we went on that there's nobody on social media who grabs me like you
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Thank you. And I usually if a guest is on I'm very excited about their book
but in this case I'm highlighting everywhere and I think let's start somewhere.
There's 11 sort of points in the book that you go through but I think in this
time and this day and age,
with all the kind of current events
that are happening in the world,
one of the things you talked about in there
is ways to find calm in the chaos.
Could you talk a little bit about that?
Yeah, absolutely.
I think we're just living in uncertain times.
We're living in chaos as you just said it.
We're living in times where we're constantly surprised
by what's gonna happen next.
And it's not a good surprise. Like it's not like a birthday surprise, it's a negative surprise sometimes.
And I think what's happened is that we've started to recognize and I really trust the people
listening and watching right now, we've started to realize that the answer is not going to
come from outside of us.
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We can't keep waiting for the political climate or stock market to be perfectly aligned. We can't keep waiting
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It's beautiful. I was reading in the book where you're talking about these
monks. They actually measure their gamma waves even at sleep and they are higher than everybody else.
Then everybody else. And so you tapped into this, ironically, you graduate from college.
They just need to know the background on this as I understand it anyway.
It kind of in your family, saying it's sort of like you're a doctor, a lawyer, or a failure.
Yeah, that's my three ups.
And you end up graduating.
But before you graduate, you go away and go live with the monks, right?
You literally, how did you make this decision?
And what overall would you say was the impact that happened to you while you did that?
Yeah, absolutely. So yeah, a bit of background. I grew up a
Teachers pet until the age of 14. So I was an obedient kid probably that the perfect son worked really hard at school
And then at 14 I went the opposite way. I started rebelling. I started experimenting
with everything under the sun. And at 18 I was at this interesting point. I think everyone
is. If you think back to being 18 and everyone is listening and watching, think about being 18
years old again and how impressionable you were and what kind of decisions you were making,
I used to go and listen to CEOs, entrepreneurs, experts, celebrities speak. And once I was invited
to hear a monk speak. And I thought to myself, And once I was invited to hear a monk speak,
and I thought to myself,
what am I gonna learn from a monk?
Like, there's nothing to learn from a monk.
Like, what's he gonna teach me?
How to be silent?
Like, who cares?
And I said to my friends,
I would only go if we went to a bar afterwards.
Like, that was my, like, I was like,
I wanna invite him.
Okay, that describes where you really were.
Literally, that describes where I was genuinely at.
I'm not making this up. And I end up going, and this is what I love about that moment. That describes where you really were. Literally, that describes where I was genuinely at.
I'm not making this up.
And I end up going, and this is what I love about that moment.
The best moments in your life are sometimes the most humbling ones.
True.
I was humbled because I went into the environment expecting to get nothing
and having my life transformed.
So what ended up happening is I felt, and you've probably felt this when you meet people,
when I was 18, I'd met. When I was 18 I'd met people
who are beautiful, I'd met people who are powerful, I'd met people who are rich, I'd met people
who are famous, I'd met people who are successful, but I don't think I'd met anyone who is truly
happy. And even now if I asked you to count on your hand, how many people you know that
are truly content, satisfied and happy, I think we'd struggle. Absolutely. And I felt that from him at 18.
And the great thing is I know him now,
I've known him for the last 14 years,
this particular monk, his name's Gorangadhar,
so I talk about him in the book.
He's still the same.
And so he has maintained that.
And so I started getting fascinated with him.
So I spent every summer vacation with him
from age 18 to age 22, every summer vacation.
I would spend half of it,
interning at big finance companies,
steak houses, bars, fancy suits,
and I'd spend the other half living as a monk in India.
That's remarkable.
Roads sleeping on the floor and meditating.
My God.
And then when I graduated, I decided that the monk path
was more fulfilling than the banking path,
and so I chose it.
What a remarkable young life.
It was my first experiment.
It's like you're literally testing it
and I never judged myself and that's what I love about
being able to live life in that way.
I didn't judge myself when I was at the monastery.
I wasn't like, oh no, I was just drinking last week.
I can't do this.
And then when I was out there with the guys,
I wasn't like, oh no, I should be meditating.
I was just like, let me really experience each life
to its fullest.
And then I can decide which one really fills me with joy.
It's amazing.
You're talking to others because just this week,
I was on a show, they said, what topic would you like to cover
above any of them?
They left it open to me and I said, I think I should be
happiness because it's so rare for most people in the
world.
People have asked me on the show.
When I started the show, I was fascinated because your shows had 54 million downloads the first year, right? And people say,
what do the people that you interview have in common? There's some of my best friends,
some of your best friends are on your show. And I thought, well, I wonder what I do, it is,
they're going to be their drive, their ingenuity, their charisma, their work ethic, their brilliance,
and many of them have all of those qualities. But I think you would agree with me that even top performers that we work with, some of
them have a touch of not so happy going on in their life.
Even the people that you think have their whole world together, they too see happiness.
And I'll be honest with you, because I'm such a fan of yours, I thought, well, almost
like what you thought, what do I have to learn from you about happiness
from the monk perspective?
I didn't think the same.
And as I started to read the book,
first there were many revelations for me.
Secondly, there were some things in the book
that I think I do practice pretty well,
but the way you phrase it and position it is beautiful
as is your norm.
So one of the things you say early in the book,
you talk about selfless sacrifice.
And there's this great quilt that I'll mess up in there
that one of the monks had shared with you
about that in the shade that you don't want to sit in
plan to tree, right?
Yeah, so it's about that.
You can talk about that.
This was the statement that when I'm sitting
in that room as an 18 year old,
thinking about going to a bar,
this was that statement that penetrated my heart
and I was like, oh, because so,
he was making the point that if you have
any gifts and if you have any talents in the world, if you're not using them in the service
of others, then worth nothing.
And that's a very bold point and the way he put it and he was quoting another writer and
he wrote that, plant trees under whose shade you do not plan to sit.
And what that means is most of us plant trees
or we do things for people
because we're expecting that one day
they're gonna reciprocate and do something back for us.
And he was like real service
is when you do things for people
that can't do anything back for you
at that time and you're not expecting anything.
And for me, for my 18-year-old mine,
I was like, oh, I thought my skills were just to impress women
and make money and just do whatever one else does.
And when he was doing that selfless sacrifice
and service, I was like, I wanna test that.
Because either this man is a genius,
or he's completely crazy.
But if he's given up and he went to IIT,
so he went to the Indian Institute of Technology,
one of the best universities in the world,
he was like a number one student and he one of the best universities in the world.
He was like a number one student
and he gave that all up to be a monk.
So I was like, there's something there
because you don't just give that up,
especially in India, the pressure to perform
and to be a top grade student is so high
that to walk away from that,
like his family and everyone would have just completely.
So I was like, I wanna follow that path.
Wow.
But I'm fascinated by you.
Because as now that I'm in your presence,
everyone should know that Jane, I've communicated
for a very long time.
We have tons of mech friends,
but we have a rare on the show
that I'm in the presence of somebody.
And I feel your energy.
Thank you.
I think I had this impression that someone who's sort of
monk-related is just sort of,
just there's this feeling I get that's just,
it's strong peace, but it's strong too.
There's an energy about you.
And one of the things that I think that you eventually
overcame that you talk about beautifully in the book,
and I see every day, people ask me often,
there's all these memes out there.
We all hear, hey, you know,
whatever one's opinion about you is none of your business.
But people really struggle with fighting a pathway
to happiness because
they are borderline obsessed with the thoughts and opinions of other people.
And you discussed that a little bit too.
How would you tell someone who's struggling with this, which is 99% of the people who are
listening to this?
How they might deal with that or overcome it?
Yeah, I give this analogy in the book about how we're all like method actors.
So I'm a big movie fan, like I'm a big movie fan.
And so for me, some of my favorite actors are like
Heath Ledger who played the Joker in the Dark Knight.
You've got Daniel Day Lewis, who's an incredible method actor.
Now I talk about in the book how Daniel Day Lewis,
at some points, he was wearing the clothes
for gangs of New York in his normal life,
to the point that he even got pneumonia in his normal life because he's wearing these old raggedy clothes.
And he goes at one point, he almost went crazy pretending to be someone that he wasn't.
Now, when I heard that and I read that, I thought, wow, isn't that all of us?
Like you wear a certain role to work, you wear a certain role at home, you wear a certain
role with your friends.
And in playing all those roles
you end up method acting and forgetting who you are. Oh my goodness. That is beautiful. And for me
that's what I'm just seeing across the an inn and of myself. Me too. And I see myself do that. I
become you become who you think are the people want you to be. And so for me the first step in that
is writing down everything you're chasing right now. Like this is a great strategy and a tool. And if anyone's listening or watching,
get a pen and paper.
If you're not, take a screenshot of this time code
right now and come back to this
because I want you to sit down
and I want you to write down everything you're chasing right now,
whatever it is.
Make that list.
Second question, where did that idea come from?
Did that idea come from your mom, your dad, your friend,
your brother, did that idea come from me,
or, hey, did that idea come from, I don't know some book that you read. Like, did that idea come from your mom, your dad, your friend, your brother? Did that idea come from me or Ed?
Did that idea come from, I don't know some book that you read.
Like did that idea come from your heart and your mind?
Or was it born because it was influenced by your friend who just got promoted?
Yes.
Your friend who just got proposed to.
Your friend who just sold their company for a hundred million dollars.
Like is that, was that the reason?
What?
Because then that may not be your dream.
And then the third question you have to ask yourself is,
is this my dream?
Or this is the question.
Is your dream really your dream?
And when you go through that exercise,
you want to keep the stuff that's yours,
and you want to distance yourself from the stuff that's.
What incredible advice.
You know, I'm a little, where I got to tell you,
there's such wisdom for such a young man I'm a little bit
further down the road age wise and wisdom wise and wisdom wise I'm excited
to learn from you a lot man certainly not but I appreciate you saying that
I mean it but I can I can validate what you've just said I'm I think dream
catching in your life can become something that gains momentum as you vibrate
a little bit higher frequency.
You can be going to attract things.
And I'm a big believer in that.
And I have many times achieved a dream or two that when I got there was completely empty.
And every time that I got to those dreams and they were empty, they were not my dreams.
They were something that I thought someone else wanted me to do or something that I saw
someone else have that I thought I wanted a place, a destination, a home, something, and you're a hundred percent
right. But the times when I've got clear on things that I really wanted, that
really mattered to me. And when they were good enough that they materialized in
my life, what great joy they've brought me. And they're usually extremely simple
things as you will as well. I love hearing you say that and it's nice to get
validated on that because I think you've achieved so much in your life
And it's incredible to see what you've achieved and I think that's what people forget is that the things that you bring you joy
Because you achieved what you wanted to achieve. Let's talk about that for a minute
You talk about Dharma a little bit. How do you figure that part out in your life? Yeah, so Dharma is a fascinating concept
Absolutely. Love it and the loose language terminology for it is
purpose or calling or your mission and vision in life. Like what are you meant to do? It's
kind of like what you're meant to do. And the thing about Dharma is Dharma talks about how
we think we have to learn lots of stuff. When actually Dharma is unlearning and bringing
out what you already have.
So one of the things I mentioned in the book is that you can't be anything, there's two
lies we've been told growing up.
The first lie is you're nothing, you're stupid, you're worthless, you're not going to make
it.
And I'm sure many people listening and watching have heard that from teachers, parents,
aunts, uncles, whoever it is.
And then the other lie that we're actually told, and I don't think it's a lie, I think it's positive,
but sometimes it's misconstrued, is you can be anything.
And we all know that's not true too.
And it's unfair because sometimes people get misled.
You're exactly right.
And the Dharma point of view is you can't be anything you want,
but you can be everything you are.
And what I mean by that is you have a genius,
a potential, a power inside of you
that you don't know yet why because you're inexperienced.
It's not that you're unqualified, it's your inexperience.
So people are saying, I'm stuck.
I don't know where my life's going.
I don't know why it purposes.
So you're perceiving yourself to be unqualified
or underqualified.
Actually, you're just inexperienced.
You just haven't done enough things
to let the magnet of your life tell you
what it's attracted to.
So for me, that's what Dharma's encouraging people to do.
And this is beautiful verse from this Vedic text,
a monk text called the Manu Smiti.
And it says that when you
protect your purpose, your purpose protects you. And what I love about that and you will appreciate
this because I know you're someone that I feel is living this. A purpose is like a rare gem and you
have to protect it. People will tell you that gem is worthless. They'll tell you that gem is not
going to make it. They'll tell you that that gem that jewel has no value.
And that's why you have to protect your own purpose.
Because the world is gonna constantly try and pull you away
from it.
So Dharma is a, it's not a belief system.
It's a fact that you've got skills, genius, potential,
it's sitting inside of you and you have not seen it yet.
And I've seen this across the board.
I literally just got a call from the, I got a call from the CEO of Instagram probably
about three to six months ago.
It's been a while now.
And she called me up and she said, Jay, we just had, I don't think I've told the story
anyway.
So you've sparked the out of me, but she goes, we've just had this talk from this speaker
that we brought in.
And this speaker spent years in a refugee camp.
And in this refugee camp, not only did he figure out how to survive,
he actually got his mother to save up for a computer,
and he coded a game, he taught himself how to code,
and he coded a game that helps people understand
how not to be violent in a refugee camp.
Gosh.
And then he used Facebook to promote it.
My gosh.
And they said, we were so inspired by him
that we brought him in to speak to Instagram and Facebook.
And then we asked him the question, we asked him,
what has had the impact on you?
What kept you inspired? And this guy goes,
he goes, I used to watch this guy called Jay Shelley on Facebook. And literally when she
told me that and she said literally the whole audience was in tears at his story. And
I said to her, I said, I need to talk to him right away because I need to tell him, I'm
like, dude, you've just inspired me. Like my, like, I'm like, dude, your life is way harder
than mine's ever been.
And if you can realize that you have the potential in a refugee camp
to teach yourself how to code and to help people not be violent,
I mean, you're inspiring more lives, his name's Luel Mayon.
I'm like, dude, you're inspiring so many more lives than I ever,
like it's just beautiful.
And to me, that story, I'm not sharing it to show my role in his life.
I'm sharing it because I'm like, if he can find a way to find his Dharma, then we haven't
got any excuses.
Brother, that's mech.
It's funny.
But right before you told the story about him, I was going to tell you that it's so obvious
to me that you're in your home, and that's perfect evidence of it.
It's so obvious to me as I sit next to you.
The book, guys, I want you to get this book.
It has my full endorsement.
And the reason it does, first off, is because this man that you're hearing these incredible
words from, wrote it.
But it's a unique book because it talks about these principles that are eternally true.
But there's also, like, what I would call fundamental strategy.
I was going to say basic, but it's not basic.
It's fundamental strategies.
I was surprised in a book that talks so much about happiness that you get as granular
as a morning routine, which I'm a huge believer of, and I think sometimes, but you do it differently.
And so I only gonna go through a few things in the book, because we want them to read the
book, right? But just so you know, guys, we're at 1% less than 1% of the book so far.
You're very good.
But it's true. But so talk a little bit just tactically for a second about
importance of it and and the way that you perceive a morning routine. I'm Jay Shetty and on my
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Yeah, so the beautiful thing about Monk Life
is half the day is self and half the day is service.
That's how you're taught to live.
So the morning hours for you to fill yourself,
it's almost like putting on mental,
emotional and physical armor.
Like that's what a morning routine is.
Our days are tiring, our days are busy,
our days are draining.
Well, guess what?
If you didn't put your armor on in the morning
and you're going out to battle,
how many knives are gonna cut you?
How many swords are gonna pierce you?
How many wounds are you gonna come home with?
How many of you come back home feeling wounded?
I come back home feeling wounded sometimes.
But guess what?
If you put your armor on in the morning,
a warrior would never go out onto a battlefield.
And life can be a battlefield.
Work can be full of conflict sometimes.
Your relationships can be damaging sometimes.
Your friendships can be toxic sometimes.
So, we are worries in one sense.
And so without wearing that. So for me a morning routine is putting on emotional
armor which is meant to protect you for the rest of the day. And that way even if you do get
pierced or you do get popped or you do get caught, you're protected. And I know that when I'm
I'm morning routine is that its best, I feel protected.
Whereas when my morning routine is weakened, I feel weak.
And so for me, the morning routine,
as I get strategic about it,
there's two principles you have to know.
Location has energy and time has memory.
If you do something in the same place every day,
that place now holds that energy.
And this is huge, like it's just so big and I'm grateful for that reaction because people
don't realize how powerful this is, like when I meditated in temples that were 5,000
years old in South India, it was easier to meditate because people have been meditating there
for thousands of years.
And so when you find a space in your home and and even if you got, like I lived in a 500 square foot apartment
in New York four years ago,
and I just had a tiny corner,
which I dedicated to my sacred practices.
So if you, you don't have to have a big home to do this,
you don't have to be wealthy to do this,
you can find just a corner in your home
that you dedicate as your meditation space
or your reflection space.
So first thing, location has energy.
Second thing, time has memory.
And this is something that people underestimate.
When you do something at the same time every day,
you remember it and time remembers it.
That's why we struggle to work out
at different times every day.
It's why we struggle.
Like why do we feel hungry at the same time every day?
Generally we feel hungry at the same time.
Most people, if you've got regulated diet, you're full hungry.
You're full tired at the same time every day.
You will look towards that Coke can or that sugar or that chocolate bar at the same time
every day.
And so when you're meditating at the same time, if you're exercising at the same time.
So what I recommend to people is your morning routine needs four aspects and it's simple
and I call it time.
It's about making time in the day.
So time stands for T-I-M-E.
T stands for thankfulness.
There needs to be, even if it's five minutes, five minutes of thankfulness, of gratitude,
every single morning, and that has to be gratitude
that's specific. It can't be gratitude that's generic. So generic gratitude is something that
anyone could be grateful for. Oh, I'm grateful for the sky. I'm grateful for air. I'm grateful for
water. That's cool, but it's generic gratitude. Specific gratitude is I'm grateful for the fact
that I have someone calling me this morning. I'm grateful for the fact that I have someone calling me this morning.
I'm grateful for the fact that I can still call my parents.
I'm grateful for the fact that I have this person in my business who is having such an impact.
I'm grateful, you know, it's specific.
Specificity.
Yes, so thankfulness.
Second one is insight.
I think this is one thing that a lot of people are missing, which I recommend people listening to you.
It's like podcast books and make it easier for yourself.
If you get this book, leave it open on your bedside table.
Leave it open on your kitchen table. Leave it open on your dining table.
I guarantee you, you will read more and what you read will speak to you.
And I think people underestimate that.
But literally, when you have it open and you'll just flick to a chapter randomly and you
pick up one line, it will impact you and it will speak to you.
So insight, you need insight every day.
M is meditation and I believe meditation is different for different people.
As monks, we did walking meditations.
We did beach meditations.
We did visualizations.
We did breath work.
Find your meditation practice.
I give a ton in the book.
And fourth, obviously, exercise, which you can speak to even more than I can. We did breath work. Find your meditation practice. I give a ton in the book and fourth obviously exercise
Which you can speak to even more than I can I exercise to keep fit you look amazing to the but it's a exercise
Everyone needs to find five minutes a day 15 minutes a day of exercise
That can just get the moving and guess what if you like sport play sport with a friend
If you want to shoot hoops go and shoot hoops
You don't have to sit on a treadmill. No one's telling you to do that. Make it fun and playful.
Brother, I've been in personal development and business entrepreneur space for a long time.
Those are two gigantic revelations that I've never heard before. I'm telling you that for me
in the book, right, I'm reading it and I literally stopped the book and I brought both my kids in.
And we talked about this idea of that space
having an energy to it.
And I wanna validate it because I just think you're incredible.
I just, everybody, it's why I want you to get the book
and it's why if you're not,
you must be following Jay on these different platforms.
Not just one either.
You need to be on his YouTube,
you need to be on his Instagram, his Facebook.
But I was, I'll share this with you
because I'm sure he's a hero of yours.
When I was very young, well, when I was younger,
actually about your age, ironically.
I'm running on the beach in Hawaii,
and it's early in the morning,
so I did my morning run, speaking about exercise,
and passing me by on the beach was this man I saw him
from a distance.
Anyway, he gets by me and he starts to go the other way,
and it was Wayne Dyer.
Oh, wow.
Right, you like Wayne Dyer, yeah.
A lot of people listen, it's probably don't know.
Oh, Wayne Dyer's, you should check, I mean, he's not alive, but you should check out Wayne Dyer. Oh, wow. Love it. A lot of people listen, it's probably don't know. Oh, Wayne Dyer's, you should check.
I mean, you can't, he's not alive,
but you should check out Wayne Dyer's work, his books,
his unbelievable.
He's one of the Godfathers of,
I mean, he was somebody that's really made an impact.
I end up getting a chance,
long story short, sitting on the beach with him
for about an hour as the sun comes up,
talking about life.
You talk about just the two of us, right?
However, one of the principles he taught me that day,
and you articulate it quite frankly, more of the principles he taught me that day, and you articulated
quite frankly, more beautifully and more specifically than even he did, but I want to validate it again
because these are things that you're not getting on any other podcast, what Jay and I are talking
about right now. And he asked me, he said, are you going to write a book and do you prepare speeches?
I said, I do. And he says, one of the things I do is I have lots of the greatest books in the
world surround me when I write write because these books have that time
and energy in them. And he believed that it gave him the great wisdom of all of these people when he
just surrounded himself in that familiar space. So for you to now put this in your book about a
morning routine is remarkable because I was just a passing thought that's really written nowhere. So
thank God for you bro. And you just sparked actually Phil Knight, shoe dog,
but you know, Nike, it's like, he talks about how he actually has a room where he keeps
his books like a library, but he takes his shoes off when he enters that room because
of the wisdom and the weight and the energy and the gravitas he believes books hold.
And so even as monks, we would never wear shoes around books because it was considered shoes of dirty and you wear them outdoors and books are so
pure that you don't want to take dirt into that space and supposedly
feel night he does the same thing and I was like feel nights thinking like a
monkey. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, but it's just so interesting what you're
saying about like books holding energy. We believe that books are sacred. You
don't kick books. You don't keep books on the floor
because they have knowledge
and they meant to raise you up.
So, wow, wow, wow.
There's so much in there,
I wanna go through a couple more things,
so I'm gonna have the book,
but I'm so fascinated by you,
I got a couple personal things, don't I?
But one of the things you say,
and look, I've said this before,
and again, I just like the way you approach it
with more depth than I've covered it before.
I just said this this week to somebody,
they're going to be like, I was crazy.
And I talked about, I said,
some of your low self-esteem in your lack of confidence
is actually an ego issue that you have.
And the person stared back at me like,
how in the world is someone with low confidence
or low self-esteem struggling from an ego issue?
And I don't know that I articulated it well enough,
although it's in one of the podcasts that I've released, one of my solo podcasts, but you articulated right
on. So talk about that for a second.
Yeah, so it's an interesting concept, and it's talked about in the Bhagavad Gita, another
monk text. And in the book, it talks about how like ego is demonstrated in two ways.
So ego is either, I am the best in the world,
and I think I'm better than everyone.
Or ego says, you're the worst in the world.
You're the worst than everyone.
You're much worse than everyone.
Or you say, my life is the best and the greatest.
My life is the worst, right?
My life is far worse than anyone else.
So ego likes to push you to the extreme.
It doesn't like to give you balance
and honesty and reality.
It likes to, it wants to make you feel like
you've got the worst life in the world
and no one else understands it.
No one gets that.
Only you get it and you get the worst.
Or you're the best and no one else gets you.
You're untouchable.
And people miss that.
They're like, how does that make sense?
Exactly like you said.
But it does make sense. Because the ego wants to be the top or the bottom, but the top of
the bottom.
It doesn't just want to be at the bottom.
It wants to be at the bottom.
Yeah, it's going to be the bottom of the bottom of the bottom, but the top of the bottom.
You know?
Yeah, and so we get lost in that and we don't think of it as ego.
And that's why the only antidote to either ego is self honesty, is being honest and honesty is I'm good at these things,
I'm great at these things and I suck at these things right. No that's honest. And we could all sit
down me and you could sit down with a list of our skills and map out what we were great at,
what we were average at and what we knew we were terrible at. Yes. And that's honestly, that keeps you so away from either ego.
Do you think part of it too is that when you're suffering
from my life as the worst, that you're focusing on you
and you're centering on you,
and there's an ego connection to that too,
and that this pathway you talked about earlier
about getting into the service of other people
removes you from you, which begins to remove the ego.
Absolutely, I mean, that's a huge point
you just made right there.
Like, you just dropped some serious.
So, hey, that's like a, you know, please don't underestimate that point everyone is listening.
Like, the challenge with all self-centeredness is that all you then
indulge yourself in is your own pain.
Well, there you go.
Right, you just indulge, you just submerge and like immerse yourself in pain
because it's all about you.
Yeah.
And, you know, I think Gandhi said it best is that you find yourself when you lose yourself
in the service of others.
And what I love about that statement is that what he means by that is, and empaths get
this mixed up sometimes.
So I want to clarify because a lot of people have empaths to a listening like, Jay, I'm
always trying to help people but then I get screwed over.
So here's the answer.
You're not helping people so that they can thank you.
You're not helping people so that they can be grateful to you.
You're helping people, because you know it's the right thing to do,
but more importantly, you're helping people,
because you get to understand and experiment and experience
different parts of yourself.
When I helped kids growing up in India that didn't have food
and we were giving them free food,
I learned so much about myself.
When I was able to go and give talks that help people,
or now I make videos or podcasts,
you learn more about yourself when you help people.
You don't learn anything about yourself
when you're just sitting there,
filling out a quiz, going, who am I, what am I?
Like you don't figure it, but you learn about yourself when you help people
And and this is what we don't realize I can't remember who said it recently
It was someone saying about Jeff Bezos, but they were saying that you know the scale at which you succeed is the depth of the problem you solve
And so even if you look at someone like Jeff Bezos who's extremely successful
He's successful because he solved a problem that many people have.
Bill Gates is successful because he solved a problem.
So even if you look at monetary success,
even if you look at financial success,
it comes from service.
Any success comes from service.
A musician is famous because they're serving.
They're serving you by understanding of feelings,
making music, you by understanding your feelings, making music,
you now feel comforted, so you follow them. They have served you. So don't think of services,
just charity and giving money, which are beautiful things, which we all should do, but don't just
limit your life to thinking, I serve on the weekends, or I serve once a year. You can serve every month.
This podcast is a serve. No question right now. It's your service, because you're serving people
by giving them an alternative to just watching some trash show.
But they're actually here learning from you
and learning from the people that you bring on the show.
I've watched you to that point.
This is a personal thing, because I'm such a believer
that you move the needle in the world
that you can help change consciousness.
I'm in my little way, you say, in my small way, I would love to think I'm a,
like in that ocean that you see out there,
like a drop of water and altering the consciousness
of the world, just a, just a scotch, not me,
but who I can share with people in my own messages.
And I believe you're one of those people.
And so I will tell you, as I've watched this meteoric rise
of years, I've actually privately, a few
times, not every day, but a few times.
I've actually prayed for you that you would keep this level of humility.
And so this is an interesting thing I wanted to ask you, but it will serve everybody else.
There is this balance isn't there of wanting this book to do well, right?
You don't want to sell two copies. You want it to do very well.
When you put a video out, there's probably a, there's got to be a little part of you
that's like, how well did it do? And I think that line right there, I'm not even sure if
you were, I know the answer entirely. But do you struggle with that balance of, I'm doing
this in the service of people, yet I'm sensitive to the
response of what I'm doing because I think someone listening is right now
who's gonna have a sales presentation tomorrow. They want to be in the service
of that person but there's this part of them that isn't that balance we've
talked about earlier about what's the response going to be? How am I going to be
received? I want people to like me. I want to do how do you navigate that?
That's a great question man. That's huge.
And let's take that sales person.
The more time that person spends in empathy,
their customers' pain,
and what the customer's really looking for,
the better they're gonna be received.
So that service mindset always helps because if you're thinking
about, and this is what it comes, and I said this to my team when we were writing the book
and everything I was working on, I said, if I sit here right now and all I'm thinking about
while I'm writing the book is being a best-selling book, then guess what, I'm now not writing the book,
I'm now living in the future and I'm not living in the present.
And so the only way to make this the best-selling book
is to do the process properly.
And I don't think, and this is what I do,
and this is the only thing that's helping me, and again,
I go through it all the time.
After my first video went viral three, four years ago,
I stopped creating because of the pressure
that I wouldn't be able to live up to it.
So I actually got scared because I was like,
oh well, what if the next video doesn't do as well?
Everyone's gonna think I'm tanking.
Like you get into that self-down and that self,
and I got into that space where I was just...
Thank you for reading on a spot.
Yeah, not really.
Like genuinely, I didn't want to make a video again
because I was like, this video just got 40 million views.
Like how am I ever gonna beat that, right?
And you get scared.
How's that? I'm not putting anything out.
I'm just gonna stop.
And then I started to realize I was like, now I'm not living in service anymore. I'm living out of ego and I'm never gonna beat that, right? And you get scared. How's that? I'm not putting anything out. I'm just gonna stop. And then I started to realize,
well, now I'm not living in service anymore.
I'm living out of ego and I'm living for feeling a certain way.
And guess what, I'm not feeling better
by not putting anything out.
And actually, if I just serve more, learn more.
So the way I've made sense of it,
and there's a verse in the key to that explains it too,
is that you have full control over the preparation, the process and the practice,
but you have no control over the potential result.
But all of those three things are the result in and of themselves.
And so if you get addicted to the process of writing, the practice of connecting with
the right people who can help share your work. And like you said, I am focused on the process of making, the practice of connecting with the right people who can help share your work.
And like you said, I am focused on the process of making sure that the most people in the
world have the opportunity to buy this book.
But then if they choose not to buy it, I can't control that.
But I can control making sure that it's in front of everyone and that I believe in the
context.
And that to me is not attachment, that to me is not eager,
that to me is trying to live your best life.
I mean, like, you know, if you didn't just try,
if you're like, I wrote this book, but who cares?
Yes.
I mean, that's not service either.
Because the way I explain it,
and I'm not claiming that this is it,
and I'm not trying to say, I'm here,
I'm trying to say that, I think we all feel this way.
If you or me see an amazing movie,
we wanna tell everyone about it.
If you read an amazing book,
you wanna tell everyone about it.
If you found the cure to cancer,
you tell everyone about it.
For me, I got to live an incredible life
thanks to these amazing teachers I met.
I just wanna tell everyone about it.
Like that's all I'm doing.
But I wanna tell everyone because of how powerful it was.
Brother, that's the best description I've ever heard of.
There's this line, I've always tried to teach of,
you want to have outcomes, but yet you need to separate from them.
And that's a difficult thing when people are trying
to achieve different things.
That was perfectly stated, absolutely being addicted
to the process of it, but actually separating
from what you can't control.
I absolutely love it.
I'm just curious, I've got a couple more questions. Tell us something about being
a monk and living with them that would surprise us. Okay, get something about that. So,
so we had, we had, that's a good question. So we had snoring and non snoring room. So they
try and be compassionate, right? So we would, so I'm a non snora. I don't snore when I sleep
and my wife agrees now to she validates. Yeah, so I'm a non-snorah. I don't snore and I sleep and my wife agrees now to
she validates that. Yeah, so I'm in the non-snorah room, but the snoring room, we would always joke around
with the snores because we'd always joke about how they all sound like different motorcycles. So we'd be
like, oh that guy's like a Harley Davidson and I like that guy's like, yeah, yeah, monk say this.
Because you're human and we're playful and And you know, it's almost like,
monk life kind of makes you more childlike,
not childish, but childlike,
because you start seeing things for what they truly are,
and you don't get caught up in stuff.
So you can laugh at each other,
you can mess around.
Another thing is we had these sacred suites
or sacred items that are prepared and offered,
and everyone gets to share them.
And you don't eat a little sugar as monks and you don't eat sweet stuff.
But these kind of natural sweetened items came out like once a week and some monks would
wrestle over them.
Like, you know, like, physically like grapple over who's going to get that.
So these are the behind the scenes.
I love that it humanizes.
Yeah, it's not like monks.
Monksy normal people and let's be honest, like most people hand in the monks their whole lives. So it's not like, like, monks. It's a normal people and let's be honest, like most people haven't been monks their whole lives.
So it's not like, yeah, great point.
Yeah, it's like, I became a monk when I was 22,
and I'm not now, my friends, some of them became monks
at 22, some of them became monks at 30.
Like, it's not like, there are monks that become monks at 5.
That does exist.
But the majority of people now are not doing that.
They may even have more time in their life, not one,
than they were one, right?
Exactly, and so for me, yeah, I'm glad you asked me that question because, yeah,
like monks are tumorous, they're funny, that like my teachers are hilarious. If I'm with them,
I'll just laugh the whole time. Really? Yeah, because they just see that and I'd love to introduce you
to one of my teachers who travels here a lot. I would love that. I'd love to introduce you to
him actually. He's around 70 years old and I've been been among for 40 years. And he grew up in Chicago. So he's an American man, he lives in India.
He's been among for free. He's unbelievable, but he is hilarious.
Oh my goodness.
And anytime I'm with him, I don't stop laughing.
Well, present people are more joyous in and of itself, right?
100% yeah, exactly.
You are.
You're not dealing with the baggage of the past or the anxiety of the future.
So when you are present, you can just laugh,
you can be joyous and be entertained.
And yeah.
Joy the bliss of the moment.
Dude, I wanna keep going, so I just wanna,
one more thing, let's give them one more gift,
because you're a treasure, bro.
And I want you to know that I want you and I
to spend some more time together.
I would love, I gently, after meeting you today,
I knew already, but after meeting you today,
you have your energy in person
surpasses all expectations.
Thank you.
Which is very, I mean that.
The people listening is going, boy,
can these guys,
constantly show their uniform?
I know, so the bromance, yeah.
I just saw his wife popped out earlier, you know?
So I'm not, I'm married to.
He's very true.
He's very true.
So, okay, so someone would pay a lot of money to do this, but I'm going to let them do it for
free for a second.
Sure.
Someone says, I'm watching this, and I really have this energy about me after listening to
this or watching this, and I want to change my life.
And maybe I don't have super high self-esteem right now, and potentially I lack a little bit
of direction.
Or maybe I know what I want to do, but I don't know that I have the confidence to get there.
If you just wanna turn my life around,
I wanna have some of these emotions
that it seems as if you experience
on a pretty regular basis.
What advice or counsel, just in general,
would you give somebody who wants to live a better life?
Yeah, so one of my biggest things,
first of all, would be that we do this wrong because we do either
or we do them in the wrong order. So in life there are two aspects that impact
everything. I was thinking and our actions and I read a quote the other day that
was saying that the mistake we make is that we either act without thinking or
we think without acting and I think that's where most people are. If you're
feeling stuck or you're like,
I'm not sure what I'm doing right now,
you're either doing too much thinking
or you're doing too much acting.
So you're just doing a lot of stuff,
but you don't know why you're doing it,
or you're just sitting there procrastinating every day
and you're doing it.
So I'd say it's both.
So the first thing I would say to you
is take a moment and speak to three different people.
Speak to a family member, a friend, and a colleague,
and ask them this one question,
what strengths do I have?
What do you think is my superpower?
What skills do you think I bring?
Emotional, strong, soft, hard, whatever it is?
Do that first, get that sense check.
Second thing, for the next month,
take off every weekend eight days,
because there's eight Saturdays and Sundays all together the next month, take off every weekend, eight days, because there's eight
Saturdays and Sundays all together in a month, and book a different course workshop seminar,
online offline, go to an event, shadow a friend, go and spend time with an aunt uncle who's
doing the career you want, go and have eight new experiences.
And after each of them sit with yourself and ask yourself, did I like that?
Yes or no?
Whether you like to ask yourself, why did I like it or why did I not like it?
And then ask yourself, would I like to do it again?
And if the answer is yes, yes, yes, yes, guess what?
Go do it again.
And if the answer is no, no, no, don't do it again, leave it out.
But if you've had eight, and this is the problem, we do that over a year.
We do that over eight years.
And that's why life feels slow, and boring,
and lethargic, and stuck.
But it just, in the next eight days in a weekend,
just test eight new things.
And you'll have just a great experiment.
And the worst thing that will happen is,
you'll find eight things that you don't like.
But I guarantee you that even if you have a sense of that reflection in the beginning and what I don't get why we don't do this enough is
We do it with food and movies all the time like you just
Ed is such a kind man like I got here. It's slightly late because of traffic and then he let me eat my lunch because I wanted to be full of energy
I
Need to find out where that places because it's local to hear my team got it ordered for me
It was amazing.
Good.
And it's like you know when you eat something whether you like it or not.
You know when you watch a movie whether you like it or not.
You know when you read a book whether you like it or not.
But why don't we ask ourselves after meeting people, completing projects or going to places.
Most of us keep meeting people that take our energy.
Most of us keep going to places that drain us of our energy.
And most of us keep working on projects that just disturb our energy.
All you have to do is ask yourself,
does this bring me alive?
Why does it bring me alive?
Really important to know why it works.
And do I want to do it again?
Deep insight there.
Brother, what he described right there, everyone, is like the ultimate pattern interrupt. What he's saying is, you're going to do this over. Wow. Deep insight there. Brother, what he described right there, everyone,
is like the ultimate pattern interrupt.
What he's saying is you're gonna do this
over eight years or 10 years
if you can just do this in the next eight weekends
or the next four weekends, eight days.
What a massive pattern interrupt.
Okay, listen, every single person who's watching this
or listening this wants more of you,
if they aren't already, where do they find you number one?
Yeah, absolutely.
Come and find me on Instagram, at Jay Shetty. Come and find me on Instagram, at J. Shetty,
come and find me on the podcast on purpose. But if you've heard my videos,
if you've listened to my podcasts and they've had any impact at all, like genuinely,
I mean, if it's even had like a tiny bit of impact on you, my genuine
proposal is read the book because it's the next level. I get to break it down.
And I get to go into the stories so grateful for you and so happy for you.
Thank you, man. I'm genuinely, this is so much fun.
I can't wait for lots of my offline conversations.
It flew by, didn't it?
I don't know how long we've been talking for.
I'm so proud of you.
I'm so proud of you.
I'm so grateful for you and so happy for you. Thank you, man. I'm genuinely this is so much fun. Yeah, I can't wait for lots more offline conversations.
It flew by, didn't it?
If I, I mean like, I don't, I don't know how long we've been talking for.
Yeah.
I wish we could go another hour, but growing through it.
But I want to thank you. Thank you so much, man.
I'm just, I'm grateful.
No, I'm very good with that being here.
Okay, everybody.
I told you'd be great.
You all told me it would be and it exceeded my expectations.
So please go get the book and follow Jay on his social media,
YouTube everywhere and keep doing it with me as well.
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