On Purpose with Jay Shetty - 5 Ways to Improve Intimacy & Save Love and Relationships from Boredom and Break Ups

Episode Date: February 25, 2022

Do you want to meditate daily with me? Go to go.calm.com/onpurpose to get 40% off a Calm Premium Membership. Experience the Daily Jay. Only on CalmFalling out of love is the hardest part in any relati...onship. When love is gone, we lose interest and compassion, and we eventually disconnect from our partner. When the connection starts to wane, we become less intimate, we become less passionate, we become less of a couple. Eventually, we lose the partnership we worked so hard to build in the early stages of the relationship.In this episode of On Purpose, Jay Shetty shares with us different ways to reignite intimacy more naturally to further strengthen our relationship and build better connection with our partner.Want to be a Jay Shetty Certified Life Coach? Get the Digital Guide and Workbook from Jay Shetty https://jayshettypurpose.com/fb-getting-started-as-a-life-coach-podcast/ Key Takeaways:00:00 Intro01:14 Methods to stop relationships from getting boring04:21 Principle #1: You have to disclose more of yourself08:08 Principle #2: Doing something fresh together10:00 Principle #3: Take on a project together15:05 Principle #4: Create a safe space for your partner to be honest with you24:20 Principle #5: The five E’s to create intimacy Like this show? Please leave us a review here - even one sentence helps! Post a screenshot of you listening on Instagram & tag us so we can thank you personally!See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 I'm Jay Shetty and on my podcast on purpose, I've had the honor to sit down with some of the most incredible hearts and minds on the planet. Oprah, Kobe Bryant, Kevin Hart, Louis Hamilton, and many, many more. On this podcast, you get to hear the raw real-life stories behind their journeys and the tools they used, the books they read, and the people that made a difference in their lives so that they can make a difference in hours. Listen to on purpose with Jay Shetty on the I Heart Radio app, Apple podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Join the journey soon. What if you could tell the whole truth about your life, including all those tender and visible things we don't usually talk about?
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Starting point is 00:01:33 If you shut down your partner's opinions, you're not creating a safe, vulnerable space for you to connect. People think if I agree with my partner, then we go deeper. That's not true. But don't also try and disagree. Listen, let them express. And instead of jumping to your conclusion to defend your point of view, ask why do you feel that way? Where did that thought process come from? How do you think we could avoid that? Could I ask you if you could ever see that differently? These are great questions.
Starting point is 00:02:12 Hey everyone, welcome back to on purpose, the number one health podcast in the world. Thanks to each and every single one of you that come back every week to listen, learn and grow. Now, I know that you want to build deeper, more powerful, more fulfilling relationships, but it's not always easy. And it can be really, truly challenging. There can be so many new issues, new discoveries, old trauma, old baggage that comes into a relationship that can affect it at any point at any time. And today I want to discuss the methods to improve intimacy, to stop a relationship from getting boring or breaking. It's so often, isn't it, that a relationship in the beginning is full of sparks.
Starting point is 00:03:05 It's full of excitement. It's full of that chemistry. We feel that attraction. We feel that positive flow of energy. And then a couple of years later, and a couple of years after that, we forget that that even existed. And maybe now there's someone else that we're feeling a bit of attraction or chemistry towards.
Starting point is 00:03:32 Maybe we're not. Maybe we're not feeling it at all. And we want it back with this person. Here's the thing. If you're at breaking point, or you're at bored boredom or you want to learn how to build intimacy, this episode is for you. Those are the three things that we experience. You either need to learn how to build intimacy or your board and therefore you need to not build intimacy or you're at breaking point and you need to see whether there's any intimacy at all. Now, I'm going to read the dictionary definition of intimacy because I think even these words need to be better defined. You can hear me googling
Starting point is 00:04:16 away to check it for you. Intimacy means close familiarity or friendship, closeness. Now when you hear that, you think actually familiarity is the thing that makes relationships boring. It's actually what causes the issue. So what is the difference between intimacy and familiarity? Intimacy is the feeling of closeness. Familiarity is being close. Right? There's a difference between being close and the feeling of closeness. You can be physically close to someone. You can live in the same home or apartment.
Starting point is 00:05:00 You can have a close proximity to another human being. Proximity can equal familiarity. But proximity does not equal a feeling of closeness. For example, you can even live next door to someone. But just because you live next door to them doesn't mean you feel close to them. Just because you live in the same house as someone else does not mean you feel close to them. Just because you live in the same house as someone else does not mean you feel close to them. We want to feel close to the people that we're close to. We don't only want to be close to them, isn't that true? Isn't that the case? You don't just want to be close to someone. You want to feel close to someone. You want them to feel close to you as well. How do we deepen our closeness with the people we want to have long-lasting relationships with? That's what this episode is dedicated to. The first principle is if you want to feel close to someone, you have to disclose more of yourself. We feel closer to people when we
Starting point is 00:06:10 allow them to get closer to the real us. The Japanese say that we have three faces. The first you show to the world, the second, you show to your close friends and your family. The third is the one you never show to anyone, and it's the truest reflection of who you are. Now, whether you think this is true or not, what it shows us is that there are multiple identities in a relationship and studies show that as we become more vulnerable with people, the closer they feel to us and the closer we feel to them. This is why you don't tell your life story to a stranger or someone you've just met. You don't tell your life story just because you find someone interesting and attractive, we are careful about when we disclose information about our lives.
Starting point is 00:07:10 But if you're in a place in your life where you're starting to recognize that the intimacy is waning and the intimacy is becoming weaker, chances are that you're not sharing your innermost deeper thoughts and ideas with that person. Now why does that happen in a relationship? Often because we think, well, I haven't had any newer thoughts. I haven't had any deeper ideas. And why is that? Because we haven't spent time developing ourselves.
Starting point is 00:07:42 We haven't invested in ourselves. If we're always growing, we always have something to make amazing to share. I realize this, when I've been reading, when I've been learning, I have so much to share. I have so many stories to tell. But when I'm not doing that personal in a work, I might start to think that I'm boring. I might start to think I have nothing to share. I might start to think that I'm boring. I might start to think I have nothing to share. I might start to think that life is the same. And so this is a reflection that's saying, if you're growing, you're going to feel like you can help your partnership grow. You will have more to be intimate about.
Starting point is 00:08:18 You will have more to be vulnerable with. Because if you're not growing, then you're not able to help your partner learn more about you. So I want you to really consider that as the first point today that we need to disclose more about ourselves, but if you're three, four years in, you may say, well, we know a lot about each other, but it's your responsibility to educate your partner more about you and there will only be more about you when you invest more in yourself. Right? And the important thing about this principle is that you have to make time to do the inner work and time to share these
Starting point is 00:09:01 moments. Right? If we don't make time to really express what we're going through and what we're experiencing, it's really difficult. I know a lot of couples who say, well, we have nothing in common. If we sat together a dinner, then we'd have nothing to talk about. This is what you talk about. We think that, oh, don't be too deep, let's just have fun. That's what helps us bond vulnerability and intimacy. Go hand in hand. When we disclose more, when we're more vulnerable, when we share more, that's what deepens our bond. Do not think of it as something as like, oh, this is getting too close, this is too serious. Now, this is what creates depth. Now, the second principle, which is really huge, is about doing something fresh together. Right? You will never have a reset or refresh in a relationship if you keep doing
Starting point is 00:09:58 the same old thing again and again and again. Everyone has their typical date night, dinner and a movie, or hang out with friends by Netflix and chill. The more you repeat the same old activity, your intimacy weakens, your intimacy does not strengthen. Because you're doing the same thing, learning the same thing about your partner. The reason why doing new things is important is because in that new, you learn something new about your partner. Now this is very key that neither of you can be a pro. It's not like saying, hey, I love crypto, come with me to a crypto conference. No, you both need to be novices in the area.
Starting point is 00:10:43 When you're both novices, it's equal ground. The challenge with relationships and why we don't build intimacy is because one of us says, I already know that. I know how that works. You want to create a space where both of you feel, hey, I have no idea how this works. We're both going to learn something new today.
Starting point is 00:11:01 We're both going to feel uncomfortable today. We're both going to need each other today. We're both going to rely on each other today. All of a sudden intimacy starts to build, right? intimacy starts to build because now we're genuinely exposing ourselves to each other. So now we're learning new things about ourselves. That's why when you're on, whether it's a first day or a hundredth date, doing something new together is highly effective because you actually get to see the other person in action. Step number three. Step number three is take on a project together.
Starting point is 00:11:44 If you're losing intimacy, it's because your lives are completely separate. Now, there are three relationships in a relationship. There's the relationship that person has with themselves and their purpose. There's a relationship you have with yourself and your purpose, and then you have a relationship together. And often, none of these are prioritized
Starting point is 00:12:03 and none of them have a goal. We believe our relationship with each other is we watch shows together and we're committed together. That person has their job, I have my job and that's it. But you have to take on a project together. When you take a project together, you deepen your intimacy and you deepen your commitment. Now there's something really interesting that I read in a brilliant study and it was talking about how when there was a marriage between these two individuals and it was stagnating. So what they decided to do as a family was to create a project of a year long sailing trip in the Caribbean. And as they started to plan this really long, crazy trip,
Starting point is 00:12:49 they actually felt closer because of it. They had to plan a routine to spend time together to develop the idea. They had to schedule proper quality discussions and brainstorms. They now got to see the creativity of each other. So often you have to invent a fake project, a project that you're building towards that you both can commit to that helps you understand each other better.
Starting point is 00:13:16 And often we need something external to pull us there to drive us there, right? It doesn't have to be something that's usually meaningful. It could be saying, let's plan our vacation together this year, right? Let's schedule time every week to do this, to really hear about our likes and dislikes. What's going to make it amazing? When you take on a project together, you naturally build intimacy and connection. And for me, projects are a really beautiful way because it's bringing a goal in together. If you notice, relationships lose or never have goals. When you first get together, the goal maybe,
Starting point is 00:13:57 well, let's figure out if we're right for each other. Okay, now we figure out we're right for each other. The goal is, okay, should we move in together? Okay, we move in together. All right, whether we get married or not, let's say we get married or we don't get married. We're now together. The goal stop. Okay, maybe the goal is to start a family, but then once we have kids and we're raising them, where does the goal go? And the goal post just get lost. A project gives you a very tangible
Starting point is 00:14:21 short-term goal or a long-term goal that prioritizes and focuses your connection on something meaningful. Otherwise, you can often wonder why are we even together? Because we enjoy each other's company. Okay, sure, but what are we doing with that? For me and Rade, these things have really been powerful for us. Before the pandemic, we used to do these events at our home where we would invite our closest friends and have these deep beautiful meditations at our homes. They were so incredible and we cannot wait to start doing them again because they bonded our community. They built us the most beautiful community that we have here in LA because of those events. Now those events gave our relationship purpose because we both deeply value meditation and
Starting point is 00:15:06 well-being and spirituality and those events allowed us to serve our friends together. So Rade would be planning the menu and the decor and design, I'd be doing the guest list, the invite and making sure that all the logistics were planned and it would be such a fun thing to do together. We used to do around three per year and I'd be thinking about the musicians that we'd invite and just doing that together brought so much joy and there was such a sense of accomplishment after the event would be over and after the evening was over we'd feel so deeply joyful and grateful that that was something we achieved together. And I think this is really critical
Starting point is 00:15:45 that as a couple in a relationship we have to achieve things together. We may be achieving things in our personal life and our private life and our own careers. What are we achieving together? What are we breaking through together? And it doesn't have to be huge. Like ours wasn't awards. It was an event. And that escalated and scaled as we started to do more together where we decided we wanted to do some and some came very late in our life. Our tea company, some was, you know, after five years of being married that it came into our lives. But when I think about how it all started, it started with these well-being-based events, where we would serve tea,
Starting point is 00:16:27 where we would serve food. And so you never know where something's going to go. You never know how something's going to grow, but it's a really, really powerful thing for you to think about. I'm Eva Longoria. I'm Maite Gomez-Rajón. We're so excited to introduce you to our new podcast, Hungry for History! On every episode, we're exploring some of our favorite dishes, We're so excited to introduce you to our new podcast hungry for history.
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Starting point is 00:17:08 team core. Join us as we explore surprising and lesser known corners of Latinx culinary history and traditions. I mean, these are these legends, right? Apparently, this guy Juan Mendes. He was making these tacos wrapped in these huge tortillas to keep it warm, and he was transporting them in a burro, hence the name The Burritos. Listen to Hungary for history with Ivalongoria and Maitre Gomez Rejón as part of the Micoltura Podcast Network available on the iHeartRadio app Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts. I'm Jay Shetty and on my podcast on purpose, I've had the honor to sit down with some of the most incredible hearts and minds on the planet. Oprah, everything that has happened to you can also be a strength builder for you if you allow it.
Starting point is 00:17:53 Kobe Bryant. The results don't really matter. It's the figuring out that matters. Kevin Haw. It's not about us as a generation at this point. It's about us trying our best to create change. Lumin's Hamilton, that's for me been taking that moment for yourself each day,
Starting point is 00:18:09 being kind to yourself, because I think for a long time I wasn't kind to myself. And many, many more. If you're attached to knowing, you don't have a capacity to learn. On this podcast, you get to hear the raw, real-life stories behind their journeys,
Starting point is 00:18:23 and the tools they used, the books they read, and the people that made a difference in their lives so that they can make a difference in hours. Listen to on purpose with Jay Shetty on the iHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts. Join the journey soon. I'm journalist and I'm Martin my podcast, City of the Rails. I plunged into the dark world of America's railroads, searching for my daughter Ruby, who ran off to hop train. I'm just like stuck on this train, not where I'm gonna end up, and I jump. Following my daughter, I found a secret city of unforgettable characters, living outside society, off the the grid and on the edge.
Starting point is 00:19:05 I was in love with a lifestyle and the freedom this community. No one understands who we truly are. The rails made me question everything I knew about motherhood, history, and the thing we call the American dream. It's the last vestige of American freedom. Everything about it is extreme. You're either going to die or you can have this incredible rebirth and really understand who you are. Come with me to find out what waits for us in the city of the rails.
Starting point is 00:19:36 Listen to city of the rails on the I Heart Radio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts. Or, cityoftherails.com. The next principle is you have to make sure that you're creating a sanctuary safe space for your partner to truly be honest with you. We often say we want honest communication. We often say that I really, truly want to be able to have real conversations
Starting point is 00:20:09 with you. But then when our partner says something that may be true, but it triggers us, we retaliate, we say, no, no, no, I don't want to hear that. No, why do you think that? Right. Why is that your opinion? That I don't like the way you think? And I see this more often than not in relationships. I was with a couple of the other day and one of the partners told me that whenever they talk about this to their partner, their partner just judges them. And what that does is that judgment makes them more quiet. It makes them less vulnerable. It makes them less honest. It's not that it makes them dishonest. It just makes them less vulnerable, it makes them less honest. It's not that it makes them dishonest,
Starting point is 00:20:47 it just makes them disclose less. And I wonder how many of us have stopped disclosing things in our relationships because we feel judged because of how we feel. We feel that our opinions are not appreciated or that our partner can't even entertain our opinion. And this is something that I find fascinating, that if you love someone or if you're trying to love someone or you're investing in a relationship with someone, be open to give
Starting point is 00:21:16 their opinions an opportunity. Be open enough to give their opinions and opportunity. If you shut down your partner's opinions, you are not creating a safe, vulnerable space for you to connect. You don't have to agree to connect. You don't have to disagree. That definitely leads to a disconnect. People think, if I agree with my partner, then we go deeper.
Starting point is 00:21:43 If they agree with me, we go deeper. That's not true. But don't also try and disagree. Listen. Allow. Let them express. Why do they feel that way? And instead of jumping to your conclusion to defend your point of view, ask, why do you feel that way? Where did that thought process come from? How do you think we could avoid that? Could I ask you if you could ever see that differently? These are great questions. Whereas so often in our relationships, we just say, well, I disagree with that. No, no, no, that's not true. Stop talking to your friends about that. How many times have you ever been in this situation? More often than not, I'm sure. And it's something to pay attention to because often, not disclosing information or not creating a space, a closeness to disclose
Starting point is 00:22:33 information can lead to disconnection. I want to share with you the biggest news of the year. How many of you want to meditate? I can see your heads nodding, I can see you raising your hands, I can see you saying, yes, Jay, I really want to learn to meditate. How many of you would like to learn to meditate with me every single day? Now, I already know what the answer is because I know how many messages, DMs, reviews, notes that I get saying, Jay, I'd love to meditate with you. Last year, we took meditation to Instagram, and I meditated for around 40 days live and
Starting point is 00:23:13 20 million of you tuned in. Now, I am taking that same focus, that same presence to calm. I've partnered up with calm to release a new series called The Daily J, where you can meditate with me every single day for seven minutes to make it a real habit. I would love for you to come and join me and take part in building a really powerful meditation practice and guess what, we're going to do it together. Head over right now to calm.com forward slash J to get 40% off a premium membership that's calm.com forward slash J. One thing about intimacy is it is created by expressing gratitude with vulnerability too.
Starting point is 00:24:05 So just as we need a space where we can be honest about what we want our partner to improve or something we're struggling with, we also need an opportunity for our partner to know what we love about them. And often we're not that clear about what we love about them because we assume that they should know or we don't want to be cheesy or we don't want to be predictable or we think it just sounds like, you know, we think it just sounds soft.
Starting point is 00:24:37 And often that's the case. Often the case is that we stop expressing gratitude or noticing the beauty in what our partner does says or achieves. And maybe we wait to birthdays, maybe we wait to Valentine's Day, but what if we didn't wait for any of those days, right? What if we didn't wait for any of those days? And what if we were able to do it immediately? What if we were able to do it in the moment? And you may be thinking,
Starting point is 00:25:06 well, Jay, would I thank them every day for cooking for me? And I'd say, why not? And you may say, should I thank my partner every day for moving the car so that I could leave on time? Why not? Should you thank your partner every day for preparing your tea or coffee? Why not? Why would we not take that opportunity? Because I tell you what the effort it takes to express that gratitude is Nothing compared to the regret we face if we never got to say it again Right when you look at things in that context and I'm not trying to be dark or morbid I'm just being honest when you look at things in that context, and I'm not trying to be dark or morbid, I'm just being honest, when you look at things with the context of, wouldn't I want them to know, if I lost someone, wouldn't I want them to know today, how I felt,
Starting point is 00:25:53 or would I have been okay that I told them last week, or would I have been okay that I told them last month? And you may say, well, Jay, you can't live life like that. And I would say, well, why not? Because I've noticed that when we notice more things about our partners more often, not only are we reminded of how amazing and incredible they are, they are reminded of how amazing and incredible they are, which rewards our relationship exponentially, it rewards our relationship exponentially. It's absolutely incredible actually to be honest. How much compliments and genuine acts of service can make such a big difference in relationships. Now, I want you to think about your intimacy and your growth. If you've ended up feeling bored growth. If you've ended up feeling bored or you feel you're at that verge of things breaking apart, chances are it's because you haven't watered the tree for a while. You haven't
Starting point is 00:26:53 watered the plant. There's a beautiful thought and idea which is often accredited to the Buddha where the question is asked, what's the difference between, I like you and I love you. And the Buddha replies, when you like a between, I like you and I love you. And the Buddha replies, when you like a flower, you just pluck it. Maybe you smell it. But when you love a flower, you water it daily. If we stop watering the flower of our relationship,
Starting point is 00:27:17 the plant of our relationship, the tree of our relationship, it stops growing. And most of us stop watering it as soon as we have it. It's almost like saying, as soon as I have the flower, as soon as the flower grows, we're gonna stop watering it because the flower's grown now.
Starting point is 00:27:32 But what happens? The flower starts to wilt. Everything starts to fall apart, starts to die. If your relationship is dying, it's not because the person was wrong, it's not because you did made wrong, it's not because you did made the wrong decision, it's because we stopped watering it. And guess what?
Starting point is 00:27:49 The same thing's going to happen. You may say, well, why don't I just buy a new plant, right? How many times have you ever had a plant? How many of you are not good with plants? Be honest, I'm putting my hand up right now, right? And your plant dies and you say, all right, well, let's just buy another one. And then you have someone going, well, no, let's revive it. Right?
Starting point is 00:28:06 That's the mentality. Do you want to revive this plant? Or do you want to move on? But guess what? If you move on, you're going to have to learn to water that plant every day too. So are you just drawing this away because you don't want to make the effort?
Starting point is 00:28:19 And that's where the real question in the relationship is, do I want to learn with this person and do I want to grow with this person? Right? That's how you create intimacy is that you choose learning and growth together. You're going to have to learn and grow with someone. Everyone is going to demand you to learn and grow in a set way. The question is, do I want to learn and grow with this person? Am I just copying out by saying,
Starting point is 00:28:46 let's just buy another plant because it's easier, but guess what? I'm going to stop watering that plant when it has a fruit or a flower. I hope that analogy makes sense. I hope that connects with you and resonates with you when I'm trying to explain there. So I want you to try these elements out for intimacy and there are ways in which to create
Starting point is 00:29:12 that intimacy quicker. And they're called the five years, experiences, experiments, education, events, and entertainment. So let's start with experiments. You have to experiment together more. Maybe you're going to go to an escape room. Maybe you're going to experiment with a tasting session. Maybe you're going to experiment with trying out something new. Or experiences, experiences make sense, right?
Starting point is 00:29:46 Like, are you going to experience a new city? Are you going to experience a city by night? Are you going to experience a new country, a new culture, a new cuisine? What are you going to experience together? That's new events are really important. When was the last time you went to an event together, a new event together, something you could discuss. That's when an event is, so you can share the event and then share your reviews with each other.
Starting point is 00:30:13 Education, when was the last time you took a course together, a workshop together, a class together. And when was the last time, of course, you chose entertainment, like notice our entertainment, which is TV, music, that is one fifth of what creates intimacy. And most of us, that's the majority of how we try and build intimacy with our partner.
Starting point is 00:30:34 Let's switch on a show. I'm not saying don't do that. I'm just saying there are four other ways. This weekend, I want you to think about one of those other ways and try it out. I want to thank you so much for listening to On Purpose. I hope that you share this episode with a friend who needs to hear it.
Starting point is 00:30:51 I cannot wait to hear your insights, make sure you tag me on Instagram, on Twitter, on every platform, and I'll see you again next week. Thank you so much for listening, and I just want to take a moment, actually, I'm going to do this because you're all incredible. I read some amazing reviews this week and remember when you leave a review, I love to read them and I recommend leaving your name so that I can thank you personally.
Starting point is 00:31:16 So please leave your name because there's so many without names. This is from Kali. I discovered Jay in this beautiful podcast about a year ago at a time where I was going through major change and uprooting my old habits and belief systems. The divine alignment of these weekly episodes seems to fall into place, where I'm at mentally, or what I didn't even know what I needed to hear always.
Starting point is 00:31:38 I returned to Jay's words, guests, and even his book to guide me in this young and transformative period of my life. I'm only 20, I have so much to learn, but I'm truly learning how to learn and love abundantly through these weekly messages. Thank you for being a ritual in my life, a guide and a reminder of returning to my values and purpose. Carly, thank you so, so much. This one's from Lindsay. Jay, I could listen and relisten to every episode. They always seem to ebb and flow with my life. I find myself thinking deeper with every new episode, which is allowed me to be more present and calm
Starting point is 00:32:15 right now. I'm grateful for this podcast and would love episodes that discuss relationships with family and friends in turmoil. Okay, noted, I'll do that. How to be supportive, assertive, and helpful when times get tough. Thank you for everything, Jay. Lindsay. Lindsay and Carly, thank you so much for these wonderful, wonderful reviews. I appreciate you.
Starting point is 00:32:35 And if all of you get an opportunity, take the time to leave a review, they make a big difference to podcasters. We now have over 17,000 reviews that I'm so grateful for and I hope we can get to 20,000 this year. That would be an amazing, amazing goal. Thank you for listening, everyone. I'll see you soon. What if you could tell the whole truth about your life, including all those tender invisible things we don't usually talk about? I'm Megan Devine.
Starting point is 00:33:11 Host of the podcast, it's okay that you're not okay. Look, everyone's at least a little bit not okay these days, and all those things we don't usually talk about? Maybe we should. This season, I'm joined by stellar, gas-like Abermote, Rachel Cargol and so many more. It's okay that you're not okay. New episodes each and every Monday, available on the iHeartRadio app, or wherever you listen to podcasts. When my daughter ran off to hop trains, I was terrified I'd never see her again,
Starting point is 00:33:39 so I followed her into the train yard. This is what it sounds like inside the box-top. And into the city of the rails. There I found a surprising world, so brutal and beautiful, that it changed me. But the rails do that to everyone. There is another world out there. And if you want to play with the devil, you're going to find them there in the rail yard. Undenail Morton.
Starting point is 00:34:02 Come with me to find out what waits for us and the city of the rails. Listen to the city of the rails on the I Heart Radio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts. Or cityoftherails.com. I am Janla Van Zant and I'll be your host for The R Spot. Each week listeners will call me live to discuss their relationship issues. Nothing will tear a relationship down faster than two people with no vision. Does y'all are just flopping around like fish out of water? Mommy, daddy, your ex, I'll be talking about those things and so much more.
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