On Purpose with Jay Shetty - 6 Reasons We Fall Out of Love & 6 Changes We Can Make to Keep It Flourishing
Episode Date: May 6, 2022Do you want to meditate daily with me? Go to go.calm.com/onpurpose to get 40% off a Calm Premium Membership. Experience the Daily Jay. Only on Calm Falling in love with someone can happen instantly. ...Staying in love with the same person is hard work. In most relationships, partnerships last not because of love and all the giddy feelings that come with it. Relationships last when both partners continuously work together to build trust, deal with issues as one but still recognize deferring opinions, and plan a future together with each other’s interest and growth in mind.In this episode of On Purpose, Jay Shetty shares with us the common reasons why many couples fall out of love and ways to save the relationship by keeping the love burning.Want to be a Jay Shetty Certified Life Coach? Get the Digital Guide and Workbook from Jay Shetty https://jayshettypurpose.com/fb-getting-started-as-a-life-coach-podcast/ Key Takeaways:00:00 Intro02:12 The top reasons we fall out of love05:59 Reason #1: We stop learning new things about each other10:41 Reason #2: We stop talking about vulnerable, meaningful topics17:06 Reason #3: We don’t create systems to deal with arguments22:58 Reason #4: When you aren’t emotionally available23:49 Reason #5: No division of chores and responsibilities24:37 Reason #6: Not addressing important issues with your partnerLike this show? Please leave us a review here - even one sentence helps! Post a screenshot of you listening on Instagram & tag us so we can thank you personally!See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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I want you to know that this episode's super important because this is something
that we're all scared of. It's something that happens more often than we think,
and I don't think there's enough conversations around it. There's not enough
discussion around this topic. And so today, we're talking about the six reasons we fall out of love and six changes we
can make to keep it growing.
Right?
Today, we're talking about the six reasons we fall out of love and the six changes to keep
it growing.
No one falls in love hoping to fall out of love.
But I'm sure many of you have even experienced this and I had a friend recently who experienced
this where she came and told me he told me he doesn't love me anymore. He said he's
fallen out of love with me. Now whether you've heard those painful words yourself or whether you've heard a friend
go through this, it is never a great place to be.
It is never going to feel right because we don't fall into love wanting to fall out of
love.
So, why do we fall out of love?
Well, to answer that question, I want to start by
looking at the definition of what it means to fall in love. Now, falling is something
involuntary. It's usually outside of our control. And to me, that doesn't sound like a good
way to be in love. We want to be in love. As Shri Shri Ravi Shankar, a teacher from India,
said before, we don't fall in love, we rise in love. Right? So what I find really, really interesting
about that is that even the idea of falling in love and falling out of love, falling in love happens
involuntarily. It happens unconsciously. But guess what? So does falling out of love, falling in love happens involuntarily. It happens unconsciously.
But guess what?
So does falling out of love, falling out of love
happens unconsciously as well.
And so if we fall in love unconsciously,
we will fall out of love unconsciously.
But if we can rise in love consciously,
then we can continue to grow in love constantly. Notice how we carry
our unconscious, unawareness through every stage of life and that it doesn't just disappear
or change or benefit us in any way. When you look at the studies in the research, 58% of participants say that
breakups are dramatic or messy. That's a large portion and I know we've all been
there, we've all been in those dramatic or messy breakups. Now 64% of
participants have gone through a breakup of a long-term relationship. This is
where it gets really interesting. 65% of people say communication
issues are the reason for a breakup. And we're going to talk about some of those key issues today.
67% of people say that disagreements between typical couples never get resolved,
but they don't need to. Not every argument needs a resolution, but
actually what leads to a breakup is that the other 33% of issues are not addressed and
then 38% of relationships end because of infidelity. So notice how we would think that cheating or something of the sort could be higher, but
actually not that it isn't a significant number, it's still lower than communication issues,
it's lower than disagreements, it's lower than addressing important things.
Today, when we look at the reasons we fall out of love and the ways to keep it growing,
I want to focus on the subtle
in-betweens that often get forgotten. The first one is we stop learning new things about each other.
Let me ask you a question if you're in a relationship or if you've just got out of one or if you've
been in one before, answer this question for yourself. When was the last time you did something new together?
What was the last new thing you learned about your partner?
Chances are those things don't even come to mind.
More often than not, we're not learning about our partners anymore.
We think we know them. We think and believe we understand them. And even more unconsciously,
we expect and believe that they know us. We expect and believe that if we've been together
for a certain amount of time, maybe if we've taken our marriage vows, then they already get us. They already know us. And this is one of the biggest reasons why people fall out of love.
They expect other people know them and they expect they know other people. So when you
expect and believe that you already know everything you need to know and they know everything
they need to know about you, we stop learning new things about each other. I asked this to a friend recently that I was
speaking to. I said, when was the last time you learned something new about your partner or did
something new with your partner? And they said it was a couple of years ago when they were on vacation,
I'm thinking, wow, you've been together for a significant amount of time, but the last time you felt you were
growing together, learning together, developing together was over two years ago.
We should be trying to do something new together every quarter, right?
Every quarter, every three months, we can find the time to have a new experience
together, a new event, a new experience, a new experiment, a new education, a new piece
of entertainment, to share an experience together, deepens your relationship. I just got back
from our wonderful few days in New York York where a friend of mine, a very
dear friend of mine was getting married.
And a lot of my friends had flown in from London, friends that I hadn't really hung out
within quite a while because of the pandemic.
And we had a whole weekend in New York.
And while we don't have romantic relationships, this was friends.
We made so many memories in four days. In four days, we made so many new memories in New York City,
where we've deepened our bond, continued our friendship,
added new stories, and we've learned new things about each other.
See, the thing is that at the start of a relationship,
everything is new.
Right, everything's new.
You go to a restaurant, it's a new experience with them.
You go to an art gallery. You go to a city
You may go to Paris. You may go to Rome. You go to another place with them. You travel a lot more with them
So you're constantly having new experiences and the newness of
The environment
creates a freshness in the exchange
creates a freshness in the exchange. Write the newness of the external environment
creates a freshness in the exchange that you share.
But as we spend more time together,
we live in the same home, we have the same routine,
we do the same things,
and we hang out with the same people in the same places.
So now there is no more newness in the environment.
So the freshness of the relationships exchanges diminishes.
But we can change that very simply.
We can adapt that very easily by doing new things together,
learning new things about each other.
So I want you to think about that
as you start planning out the next quarter
or as you move
into your next relationship, see how you can add newness from the outside so that you can
learn more new about the person.
There is always something new to learn about something old.
Whether it's a work of art, whether it's a building, whether it's a word, everything in
the world has more history than we can even fathom or imagine.
And so I would like you to think about the person you're within that way.
They recognize that they're never endingly deep.
They're limitless.
And that you should always try and discover something new about them.
And that way you'll never fall out of love with them.
You may choose that you don't like what you learn, but you won't unconsciously fall out of love with them.
Number two is we stop talking about vulnerable, intimate, important, meaningful topics.
What's really interesting about this is that when they surveyed couples,
the happiest couples only spent about 10% of their communication
on small, talking daily tasks.
But the unhappiest 28.3% of their time
was spent on shallow things.
So you notice how there is
inconclusive evidence on this yet, but it's moving in that direction that the
less we're talking about, things that are important, powerful, deeply meaningful
to us, it's hard to build a long lasting relationship of a functional
conversations. When everything becomes too functional, logistical, I mean, even
those words,
they strip away the spirit of connection. And it's natural that as we spend more time together,
we end up talking about what needs to happen around the apartment or when he's to happen
around the house or, you know, who's picking up the kids or who's, who's planning this
out. And everything becomes logical, functional. It becomes like event management as opposed to being a relationship.
And that's needed, right? Those conversations are integral, but they are a baseline for the
deeper meaningful conversations that need to happen. What's really uncomfortable about that is that we have to make time
to ask those beautiful questions, right?
We have to make time to give our partner the ability
to have meaningful conversations with us.
So one of the questions, and I was thinking about questions
that I've often encouraged couples to ask each other, and you know, questions can be anything
about embarrassing moments. They're childhood or the future. So I find that
talking about the past, present, and future is what develops intimacy in a
relationship. If you want to develop a connection with someone,
it is by discussing your past, present, and future.
You think about it, some relationships in your life
you only talk about the future.
Some relationships you only talk about the past,
and some relationships you only talk about the present.
So someone who has a 360 degree view of you
is someone you can have a loving
relationship with and you can keep growing the love because they are growing with you and through
your journey with you. So childhood is the past, embarrassing moments may be the present and it
also brings a bit of laughter, a bit of lightness, and then the future, your hopes and dreams, your aspirations.
So, some questions that I really like for a childhood is, you know, who's someone in your
family that you feel your most yourself around? Right, that's a great question. And making time
for questions like this allows you to learn so much about that person.
Another great question is,
why do you want to be a parent?
If you want to be a parent,
why so?
If you don't, why not?
And having an open conversation around that.
One of the best conversations to have about the present is
what's your love language right now, right?
What is something that you deeply appreciate? Or another way it could be to
describe your perfect day? What is it that makes a day special? And remember,
these questions are not being asked with the expectation that someone's
going to fulfill them. It's just the act of having that intimacy, that vulnerability with someone
that creates deeper bonds and deeper connections and deeper relationships. And then the future,
what are your hopes and aspirations? What are you building? What are you creating? What
are your goals this year? So if we truly want to not fall out of love, it requires this
consistent growth. And this is what I find fascinating
that nothing in the world just stays as it is. Right? Nothing in the world just lasts
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to last without nurturing. We expect love to last without any effort. And it doesn't make
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This one is absolutely huge, right?
The amount of people that argue, the amount of people that have disagreements, the amount
of people that avoid arguments, but having systems to deal with arguments.
Now I'm going to share with you a system.
The first system is the when, where, what, how, why system.
My belief is that arguments needs to become more like debates.
The reason is that in an argument, there is no goal.
There is no intention. and there is no clarity.
In a debate, there's emotion, there's an intention, and there's knowledge. Arguments are
unstructured, they're highly emotional, and they're highly, you know, irrational. Debates of focused discussions on a particular idea.
So the first question you have to ask yourself
to create a system for arguments,
every time you start arguing,
you can move to the system and me and Rade do this fairly often.
And I find that I may guide us in this direction sometimes
so anyone can guide,
but you have this discussion when you're not arguing.
So you have this discussion when you're not fighting. So you say, okay, look, next time we fight,
this is the system we have to use to actually have a productive argument, as opposed to when we start
fighting, we have to somehow figure this out, which is unlikely. The first thing is the
90-second rule, knowing that emotions switch after 90 seconds.
In those 90 seconds, you're gonna wanna act,
you're gonna wanna be angry, you're gonna wanna release yourself,
but if you can wait 90 seconds,
if you can hold back for 90 seconds,
it will change the tone of an argument.
The first thing is what are we arguing about?
Let's be really clear on what are we actually arguing about?
Now, if you're starting an argument, if you've got an issue with something, what are we actually arguing about? Now if you're starting an argument, if you've
got an issue with something, what are you actually arguing about? And if someone else is arguing
with you, calming the situation down and asking the question, what are we actually arguing about?
Let's really look at that. What is your genuine issue with this? Let me understand the root of it.
Let's really break it down. It's not a challenging question. It's not a condescending question.
It's a clarifying question.
So you're not asking them, what are you arguing about?
What's wrong with you?
What's your issue?
You're saying, I want to understand clearly what it is
that I've done to upset you and what it is that I've done
to make you feel this way.
Right?
I want to understand that.
That's the first step. The second step,
after you figure out the what and so it's like, what are we arguing about? Because after time,
we don't even know what we're arguing about or we're arguing about a side thing and then we go,
whoa, whoa, whoa, it's not that. It's really this and then we switch topic, right? So let's really
spend some time cooling down and figure out what are we arguing about.
Before we do that, we have to figure out when and where we're going to argue.
Here's the thing about debates. They're set with the time and a place.
Your arguments need a time and a place. Ideally, where is in a neutral place?
You want to argue in a place that feels comfortable for both of you. You're not arguing in front of the kids. You're not arguing while the TV's on.
You've made a commitment to do it in a proper time and place. And the place also means
it could be somewhere neutral, it could be in a park. It could be in your garden,
it could be somewhere that feels more open. And and When not when they just got back from work
Not first thing in the morning while someone's rushing to get their breakfast
Not before a big meeting or presentation often we do that unconsciously and the other person gets unhinged a
Healthy system for an argument is first figure out when and where you're going to choose to bring this up and
What you're choosing to bring up. Now, how is your sitting next to each other? You're not
sitting opposing each other. There's a beautiful quote by Antoine de Sunt, a superie that says,
love does not consist, engaging at each other, but in looking outward together in the same
direction.
When we're looking at each other,
we may look past each other.
We may look against each other.
We may have ideas that cross or conflict,
but when we're looking in the same direction,
when we're sitting next to each other,
when we're on a walk together,
we're already subconsciously moving
in the same direction together,
arguing or debating while having a walk
as we move
can be healthy.
So that's the when, where, what, how, and then the why, why am I really bringing this up?
Explain why you're bringing it up.
Don't just argue about what you're arguing about.
Explain why it affects you.
And also when you prepare to share this, that's the thing about debates you prepare for debates. When you share this, the most amazing thing is that they understand,
because people may not understand what your issue is, but they're more likely to understand why
you have it. You may have an issue with someone not doing the dishes and they won't get it because
they don't have the same why for it. But if you tell them why, they can understand you as a little bit deeper.
Please communicate with why.
So how you set a system for an argument is before an argument outside, you say, look, this
is the system.
We're going to follow.
We're going to figure out when and where.
We're going to figure out what we're arguing about.
We're going to know how we're arguing about it.
And we're going to share why we're arguing about it. And it's going to be more like a
debate than an argument because we don't want to approach it from the perspective of just shouting
at each other. Now, the fourth reason we fall out of love is that the John Gottman Institute says
that only 9% of the time are couples emotionally available,
9%, which means there's 91% of the time
that couples are not emotionally available.
It's incredible, right?
To just not be there, to just not be present.
Carve out time every week, once a week,
to have emotionally available time, e.a. time.
And that could be on a Sunday for an hour, each.
But to really carve out that time,
to not think that watching a movie together
or going to dinner together is emotional availability.
That's physical availability.
But what people are really seeking
is emotional availability.
And you really want to focus on that.
Number five is no division of chores and responsibilities.
People get so frustrated that they default to taking care of everything.
That they by default have to do everything.
Right? So you want to figure out early on who's doing the cooking, who's doing the cleaning.
What's the schedule? We have to almost treat it in that way
because it's so easy for things to just fall on one person
before you take on a new task.
Like let's say you're renovating.
Okay, before we take on renovating,
who's gonna take on the renovation,
who's gonna take on the decision making?
We have to start operating somewhat like a business
in those areas of our lives
to avoid lack of communication. Okay, we want to plan
a vacation. Who's going to plan it? Who's going to book it? Let's, let's plan that out before we
get excited about doing these things. Number six is not addressing important issues for your partner.
This, this is huge. If you're one of those people that knows your partner wants to get married,
but you don't want to and you don't want to talk about it. Or you know your partner wants kids and you don't and you don't want to talk about it.
Make a point to talk about it.
Either you're going to fall out of love or they are because you don't talk about the things
that are uncomfortable to talk about.
Talk about the uncomfortable things in the same way as I described the arguments in debate.
Don't avoid the elephant in the room, right?
It just gets bigger
and bigger and bigger. Thank you so much for listening to this episode today. I think
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