On Purpose with Jay Shetty - 6 Ways to Stop Listening to People's Opinions & Take Control of Your Life

Episode Date: October 15, 2021

When we can’t decide on something or make an important decision about something big in our lives, we often seek advice from others. We ask for people’s opinions on what they would do if they were in the same situation and how they would go about resolving the issue at hand.And as we listen to their opinions, we get a sense of enlightenment, a sense of direction. And most of us often tend to listen to what they have to say. But sometimes other people’s opinions don't offer the best help simply because these opinions were given without thinking of the consequences it will have on our lives.In this episode of On Purpose, Jay Shetty talks about the types of advice we can seek from others to help us handle difficult situations but also learn how to make small decisions on our own. Sama Tea is now available! Go to http://samatea.com/onpurpose to order a box of Sama now and get access to our free live monthly tea parties, be the first to try out new tea flavors and receive a free exclusive download that shows my personal routine and rituals.Key Takeaways:00:00 Intro04:10 Stop listening to other people’s opinions08:33 When people’s opinions started to affect you less14:06 Type #1: It is a projection of the other person’s own limitations and possibilities17:51 Type #2: Ask if you need some care18:29 Type #3: Consistent catch ups19:02 Type #4: Go for character 20:47 Type #5: People’s thoughts don’t affect your reality unless you allow it23:15 Type #6: Trust your intuition with small thingsLike this show? Please leave us a review here - even one sentence helps! Post a screenshot of you listening on Instagram & tag us so we can thank you personally!See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

I'm Jay Shetty and on my podcast on purpose, I've had the honor to sit down with some of the most incredible hearts and minds on the planet. Oprah, Kobe Bryant, Kevin Hart, Louis Hamilton, and many, many more. On this podcast, you get to hear the raw real-life stories behind their journeys and the tools they used, the books they read, and the people that made a difference in their lives so that they can make a difference in hours. Listen to on purpose with Jay Shetty on the I Heart Radio app, Apple podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Join the journey soon. What if you could tell the whole truth about your life, including all those tender and visible things we don't usually talk about?

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mostly a human just trying to figure out what it's all about. And not lost is my new podcast about all those things. It's a travel show where each week I go with a friend to a new place and to really understand it, I try to get invited to a local's house for dinner. Where kind of trying to get invited to a dinner party, it doesn't always work out. Ooh, I have to give that to you. Listen to not lost on the iHeart radio app or wherever you get your podcasts. According to the Smithsonian National Museum of National History, joining a group or tribe and

being accepted by others was critical to survival. See, that's why we do it. We do it because that's how we survived. But here's the thing, we're not in survival mode right now. We want to move into thriving. And if we want to shift from surviving into thriving, we have to consider how people's opinions become online. Hey, everyone. Welcome back to on purpose, the number one health podcast in the world. Thanks to each and every single one of you that come back every week to listen, learn, and grow. Now, whether you're walking your dog, whether you're cooking, whether you're working,

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We all go through trauma and I have really been bad at putting myself down and accepting that I was that woman. I'm seeing the woman I am today against all the odds. I deserve love and abundance and so does everyone else. The beauty held within me is so much more than anything else. I see it when I look at people walking by the genuine love and empathy I have for others. I have many layers and every layer is important. Mel, that was so beautiful and heartwarming. Thank you so much for sharing it with us. Okay,

I want to share a few more as well. This one is from Amory. She says, wow, thank you. I can honestly say that listening to the episode about the three personality types in a relationship really helped me open my eyes in my relationship. I'm ready to grow and become the supportive partner instead of the fragile. I love your podcasts. So amazing. If you haven't heard that one, that was one of my recent favorites as well. And then the final one that I'm reading here is from Maddie.

I mean, there are so many, but this one's from Maddie. Jay, thank you for sharing your wisdom. The podcasts will repeatedly come out just when I need them. And there are nuggets of wisdom from each episode that I've genuinely started implementing into my life. I believe you are spiritually evolved and have a true gift in the way you share and connect with others. Thank you, Maddie. Maddie, thank you so much for that message. And what makes me most happy is that you said that you've started to implement these ideas into your own life. That's why I do this. So that makes me very, very happy. Now, today's theme and every theme that I pick for these Friday, solo episodes

are things that I've been thinking about, or maybe a friend called me up, and this was the pep talk I gave them, or maybe someone in my life was going through something difficult and this is what they were up against. I'm always leaning on my real life experience to help inform what I share with you because I feel that it's in the energy. I feel that it's what people are struggling with. And so, today, when we talk about the ways to stop listening to other people's opinions,

this theme is so important to discuss because I feel so many of us are constantly listening to other people's opinions. So many of us are constantly plagued by the words what will people think or what will people say or how will everyone react or what's everyone going to say about me? What's everyone going to think about me? How many of you have ever had one of these thoughts? At least one of these thoughts, at least one of these thoughts. Now, I'm not with you all, but my prediction is that 100% of the people that are listening

to this podcast right now raise their hand, that they have thought about what will people think, what will people say, how will people react before they do something, after they do something? Right? We're always asking that question. And so a big part of our life is centered around listening to other people's opinions. Or maybe you're one of those people who says,

oh, I've got a good idea. I need to ask all my friends about it. Or I really want to start this. Let me talk to my family and see what they say. Maybe you're someone who goes out and seeks the opinion, not that you're just worried about how they'll react, but you actually go out there and put it out there. Now, I'm not telling you to do that

or don't do that in this episode. What I'm sharing with you is that how we listen to people's opinions is really important. And I know we talk a lot about stop listening to other people's opinions, but it's less about stopping listening to other people's opinions and more about not feeling the pressure to live up to them. So it's not really about listening, it's about the pressure we take on to live up to people's opinions and expectations and obligations that affect us. Listening is not the issue. The challenge is that what we've done as humans is we've created a very blurred line between listening

and living up to. When we hear something, especially if it's fear-based, pressure-based, stress-based, we try to live up to it. If someone gives you the best advice in the world, but it feels like it was given with no pressure or no fear, you almost ignore it and you don't try and live up to it. It's strange, isn't it?

Someone could give you the worst piece of advice or feedback ever, but because it was given from a place of fear, anxiety, insecurity, you try and live up to it. But if it was given from a good place, you'd be like, oh yeah, no, it doesn't seem that serious. We've react more seriously to criticism, to negativity, which actually has its benefits,

but at the same time, we could end up missing out on some really good, deep, powerful advice. So let me give you an example. One piece of advice you could get is, well, you know, I know you want to start that company, but you know, you have no idea of how to start it. Like you have no experience. It's never going to work. When you hear that, most people go back into their cocoon, they stop dreaming, they think, oh, it's never gonna happen.

Like, it's been shut down or we're waiting till that person changes their mind. Very few people will go on to try and prove that person wrong. And very few people will go on and just do their thing anyway, right? Now, someone who actually may say to you, well, you know, it's really important

that you find a coach, right? It's really important you find a mentor. And because that was just given as a good piece of advice and feedback, we take it less seriously, affects us less seriously, and we potentially won't even find that mentor. You see how it works? And so I really want to bring up that distinction between listening to other people's opinions is not the issue. I often ask people for their opinions, but it's the pressure that we take on to live up to them because of who we are. And so often when

people ask for my opinions in a non-coaching setting, my reply will be, well, this is just my opinion. You don't have to try and live up to it. I'm not going to judge you if you don't do it because that's not my relationship with that person. So, I want to start this episode by talking about when I first stop feeling the pressure to live up to people's opinions. And the reason I think that's important is that I find that when you start practicing this skill earlier and truly is a skill, it becomes easier and easier as it goes on. And maybe when you think about that, if you ask yourself, what was the age at which people's opinions started to affect you

less? Or when you started to notice that it was something you had to actually disconnect from? And I think that's the key here. It's not that you're not listening. It's that we have to become conscious that it's not having to hold on us that it did before. And if I'm honest, it's actually for me at the age of 14 when I first started to practice this skill. And I say practice, and I call it a skill because it's something you have to build up. It's not just, oh, well, I'm just going to switch off and not listen to anyone, right? It doesn't work like that. So I remember being 14 years old, and I was sitting with my math teacher and I remember sitting there and struggling at a question.

Right, I was struggling with a question, a problem. So I remember that he said to me, he said, the reason why you're struggling with this question is you're thinking about what your parents are going to say. The reason you're struggling with this problem is that your mind is not present here. It's focused on what your parents are going to say. How many of you can relate to that in some way or the other? It may not have been about math or schoolwork, but it's about something else. And I realized at that age that I had to let go of that because that thought blocked optimal thinking.

So what I find fascinating about this is that at 14 I decide I'm now going to select subjects that matter to me. I'm now going to focus on my passion. So I remember telling my parents that I wanted to focus on art and design. I loved art and design growing up. And my parents want to be the focus on science. They want to be the focus on math. Those with the subjects that were important to them and slowly the subjects that became important to me were art and design, philosophy, English.

I also enjoyed economics. And it's fascinating to me because today my life is made up of those things. Art and design constantly being creative with videos, Instagram, content. And then I absolutely love philosophy, of course. I love economics. I love figuring out a way to make this work scale and have an impact.

And I obviously love English and I love language and I love the words. And so it was at 14 that I decided that I had to disconnect. Now, the second thing was my teacher's expectations. I started to gravitate more towards teachers that what people that could understand and help me think, not what to think about how to think. So, I really got close to one of my art teachers.

And what I loved about him is that every time I would draw a line, every time I'd put a color, every time I'd put a picture, or image next to anything, the number one question you would ask me is, why did you do that? And I didn't realize what he was teaching me at the time, but his simple suggestion and prompting to constantly ask me why, why, why? It made me ask the question, why, and I had to constantly dig and search for deeper meaning, deeper connections, deeper sincerity. And it completely transformed the way my mind works simply by asking the question, why? And here's the thing we've always been told that the smartest people know all the answers.

know all the answers. Well, the truth is true smarts, true intelligence is asking the right questions. Knowing all the answers may be a game of memory, but knowing to ask the right questions is a sign of sincerity. So next time you don't feel smart or next time you listen to everyone's answers opinion, next time you feel you don't have the answer, what will they say? Ask more questions. Be more curious. Not too long ago, in the heart of the Amazon Rainforest, this explorer stumbled upon something that would change his life. I saw it and I saw, oh wow, this is a very unusual situation.

It was cacao. The tree that gives us chocolate. But this cacao was unlike anything experts had seen, or tasted. I've never wanted us to have a gun bite. I mean, you saw the stacks of cash in our office. Chocolate sort of forms this vortex. It sucks you in.

It's like I can be the queen of wild chocolate. We're all lost. It was madness. It was a game changer. People quit their jobs. They left their lives behind, so they could search for more of this stuff. I wanted to tell their stories, so I followed them deep into the jungle and it wasn't always pretty. Basically, this like disgruntled guy and his family surrounded the building armed with machetes.

And we've heard all sorts of things that, you know, somebody got shot over this. Sometimes I think, oh, all these for a damn bar of chocolate. Listen to obsessions, wild chocolate, on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. A good way to learn about a place is to talk to the people that live there. There's just this sexy vibe and Montreal, this pulse, this energy.

What was meant as seen as a very snotty city, people call it Bose-Angelists. New Orleans is a as a very snotty city. People call it Bosedangeless. New Orleans is a town that never forgets its pay. A great way to get to know a place is to get invited to a dinner party. Hi, I'm Brendan Francis Newdum, and not lost as my new travel podcast, where a friend and I go places, see the sights, and try to finagle our way into a dinner party.

Where kind of trying to get invited to a dinner party, it doesn't always work out. I would love that, but I have like a Chihuahua who is aggressive towards strangers. I love you, dogs. We learn about the places we're visiting, yes, but we also learn about ourselves. I don't spend as much time thinking about

how I'm gonna die alone when I'm traveling, but I get to travel with someone I love. Oh, see, I love you too. And also, we get to eat as much. I'm very sincere. I love you too. And also, we get to eat as much. I'm very sincere. I love you too. My life's a lot of therapy goes behind that. You're so white, I love it.

Listen to not lost on the iHeart Radio app or wherever you get your podcasts. I am Yamla. And on my podcast, The R Spot, we're having inspirational, educational, and sometimes difficult and challenging conversations about relationships. They may not have the capacity to give you what you need and insisting means that you are abusing yourself now. You human!

That means that you're crazy as hell, just like the rest of us. When a relationship breaks down, I take copious notes and I want to share them with you. Anybody with two eyes and a brain knows that too much Alfredo sauce is just no good for you, but if you're going to eat it, they're not going to stop you. So he's going to continue to give you the Alfredo sauce and put it even on your grits if you don't stop him. Listen to the R-Spot on the iHeart Radio app Apple Podcast or wherever you listen to podcasts. And then the last line of defense if you want to call it that parents' teachers was friends.

And again, here's the thing, it's not that I don't talk to my family or talk to my teachers or talk to my friends, you can notice how with my parents, there's a disconnecting around my particular aspect here of understanding with my teachers as well. There were teachers that I did connect with. And then finally, my friends. So what I want to share with you is, where are you at on this journey right now? Where are you at on this journey right now? And what part of this journey are you still working on?

Where do you see your weaknesses? And where are you seeing your strengths and where are you flourishing? Because I want to walk you through some of the reasons why we do this. And I also want to walk you through some of the reasons why we do this. And I also want to share with you how we can stop making this, you know, something that we're struggling with and wasting time on. So the reason why this all exists is that according to the Smithsonian National Museum

of National History, joining a group or tribe and being accepted by others was critical to survival. See, that's why we do it. We do it because that's how we survived. But here's the thing. We're not in survival mode right now. We want to move into thriving. And if we want to shift from surviving into thriving, we have to consider how people's opinions become our life. Now, the first piece of advice I want to share with you, even though I feel I've been sharing advice this whole time, and insight is that when you ask for someone's advice, what you are going to receive from most people, unless they're trained is a projection of their own limitations and possibilities. That's what you get when you ask for someone's opinion. It actually has nothing to do with you.

When you ask for someone's opinion or insight, 99% of the time from an untrained person, you're going to receive a projection of that person's limitations and possibilities. So when you ask for some advice, you have to recognize that it is impure or it is distracted or affected by this bias that we all have, that we struggle to remove when we share advice. If someone says, well, do you think I should move to New York? When I lived in New York, I would have said, yeah, of course, it's the best city in the world. And then when I live in LA and I moved away, I'll say,

oh no, I prefer LA. Notice how neither of those points are true. Neither of those pieces of insight or advice are about you. They constantly about my approach. Now, because of my training as a coach, I've learned to disconnect myself from an answer. So what I'll share is, is upon my reflection,

I've noticed that there's something that I call a purpose place. There's a place where your purpose comes to life, a place where your purpose is more likely to be fulfilled. And for me, that place was New York for two years, and now it's LA. And what I found is that New York was a fantastic city for news, for finance, for artists as well. But LA is really the home of content.

And so LA is the home of media for me when it comes to entertainment media, especially when it comes to sharing a message across the world. And so that outlook is more useful because it's not just using my projection, it's sharing a reflection that is not just based on my own opinion. But that requires you to move yourself. When someone says, do you like him? Do you think I should be dating him?

If that person reminds you of your ex, you would say, no, reminds me of my ex. Now, you may be right or wrong and you may get that right or wrong, but the truth is, the answer you're giving is a representation of your own experience. So when you ask someone for their opinion, you have to recognize that's where it's coming from. So, I want you to consider four characteristics

that we look for in the people we allow into our lives. So, when I look to someone for advice, I look for in these four areas. The first is competence. I look to ask myself, when I'm asking for a piece of advice, am I looking for someone with competence? Is that what I'm looking for? Like, do I need an expertise? I'll give an example, if I was investing money, I wouldn't ask someone

who doesn't have competence. But often, we ask everyone about everything. Right? How many of us ask everyone about everything? A lot of us. We'll ask our parents about investing, we'll ask our friends about investing, we'll ask our friends friends about investing, we'll randomly bump into someone, we'll ask them about this question. I ask myself, is the question I'm asking a competence-based question? Because then I'm going to need to go to someone who has that competence or skill. For example, if I'm going to ask a social media question, I should ask it to someone who knows something about social media. I'm not going to ask it to someone who doesn't know about it. But often in our panic, in our frustration, in our confusion, we approach anyone and everyone about it. The next type of personal question

I have in my life is care. Sometimes you're asking for someone's advice because you just need some care and love. When I need some care and love, I go to my mom. My mom's going to give me more care and love than anyone else. some care and love, I go to my mom. My mom's gonna give me more care and love than anyone else. And she may not give me the advice that I need to help me. Like, for example, if I ask her for work advice, even though she's an entrepreneur too, her advice to me will be like,

well, take care of yourself. Just take care of your health. I just want you to be healthy. Of course, she's my mom, she cares. And so I don't ask her things where I know I'm gonna push the boundaries or push the limits, but I don't ask her things where I know I'm gonna push the boundaries or push the limits, but I always ask her when I need some care.

And I need some care, I'll definitely go to her. The third type of advice I seek is consistent advice. This is more, not even advice. It's more like consistent people in your life who know what's going on. I probably have a handful of people in my life, maybe three that know what's happening in your life who know what's going on. I probably have a handful of people in my life, maybe three, that know what's happening in my life, know what I'm up to, know what my activities are, and this is just consistent catch-ups. It's not that I'm asking them for advice,

it's not that they're guiding me, it's just that we're in constant connection, and that some sort of reassurance, it's some sort of stability that you need in your life. And then fourth and final is character. Some people have a strong moral compass and uncompromising values. We look to these people to help us see clearly when we aren't sure what we want or believe is right. So character is something I go to and my question is a moral, ethical question.

I have people in my life like my monk teaches that I'll turn to for questions in that area. So notice how I'm curating the group of people around me, around particular needs and questions that I have, rather than the mistake, which is what I wanna share with you next. The biggest mistake we make, so I hope that's helpful. I hope that makes sense to you.

Who do you go to for care? Who do you go for competence? Who do you go to for care? Who do you go for for competence? Who do you go to for character and who do you go for for consistency? Because the truth is that no one person will be all those things. Right? There is no one in the world who will be all of those things. Someone may have competence, but they won't have care. Someone will have care, but they won't have character. Someone will have character, but they won't have consistency. And we can't expect people to. We just have to engage with them. We just have to engage with them. We just have to engage with them for when and how we can.

Right? So I want you to really consider that. The mistake we make, which is the fourth principle I want to speak to you about, is that there's a journey. In the beginning, we go to everyone for everything. Then you go to everyone for something, right? One thing, but you take it around to everyone. Then you go to some people for everything,

but then you go to some people for some things. So I want you to start becoming really, really hyper-focused on who you go to advice, how you go to it for them, and not just being one of these people that blurt their challenge out to each and every person and then gets advice from a million people makes it difficult on yourself. Now, the next principle I wanted to discuss with you, which I think is a really, really powerful one, is that people's thoughts don't affect your reality unless you let them. So someone's thought So someone's thought of you being weak, insecure, anxious, useless,

untalented, not smart. That thought they have has no basis on your reality. But when you internalize that thought, you then let it affect you. There's a beautiful quote from Gandhi where he said that I would never let someone with their dirty shoes walk through my mind. Right? And the idea here is that if someone has dirty shoes outside your home, they can't affect you. But if you open up the door to your home and let them in,

that will now affect you. So it's the same thing with thoughts. If someone's having a thought in their own house about you, it doesn't affect you. And we say, no, no, no, but they know people I know. They're gonna tell people, they're gonna tell people. And here's what I've realized, if people just need someone's opinion

to change their mind about you, I promise you you didn't have a strong enough relationship with them. Honestly, if it just took someone to say one thing about you and that person's gonna change their mind and you're worried they're gonna change their mind about you, I promise you they are not as close to you as you think they are. It's just the reality of it.

And we have to get the grips with the reality of it because we get lost in thought. We go, oh, but they think this. And then they're gonna say this to that person and that person's gonna think this. And so we're so scared of everyone's thoughts. But in the process of being scared of everyone's thoughts, what have we done?

We've created a negative thought pattern. We have taken their thoughts, added them all up together and created our own negative thought pattern. And so when you end up creating your own negative thought pattern, that creates a lot of complications. Because now, all of a sudden, you've now completely internalized. You have completely internalized what's going on.

And it's now a part of your DNA. It's a part of your makeup, and now you just think it's you. So I want you to remember that that someone else's thoughts are not your reality, and you don't want to let them into your house. You want to get them out of your house. You want them to leave your home. The next step that I want to share with you is I want you to start focusing on what you think and start to trust your intuition with small things.

So our whole life we've been programmed to say, how do you think I look in this? What do you think I should do? What do you think we should eat? We're constantly trying to outsource our decision-making. Now granted, that's not the biggest deal when it comes to fashion or candy. Or it's not the biggest deal when it comes to food or it can be with your health. Overall, we can get away outsourcing some of these smaller decisions in our life. But when it comes to the bigger things in life, we can't. But to be able to make the bigger decisions ourselves,

we have to start with those smaller things. So today, when you look in the mirror in the morning, when you're getting ready, I want you to refrain from taking a mirror selfie and sending it to your friends and asking them how they think you look. I want you to refrain from asking your boyfriend or your girlfriend or your husband or your wife or your partner from having to answer that question. When you go out to a party this weekend, I want you to refrain from asking that question. I want you to ask that question to yourself looking in the mirror.

How do I look in this? How do I feel in this? What does this say about me? Why am I wearing it? And I want you to ask yourself, and I want you to answer it as yourself, because chances are, the first few answers that come to your mind will be, well, I think my friend would like this, and I think my mom would like this, and I think my boyfriend,

and that's what I want you to refrain from. Every time you get a thought, I want you to go back to, what do I think? What do I think? What do I think? I wear plenty of clothes and fashion that Raleigh doesn't quite agree with, and we both have created space for self-expression. It's so important. What do I think? What do I think? What do I think? I wear plenty of clothes and fashion that Raleigh doesn't quite agree with,

and we both have created space for self-expression. It's so important. It's so needed. So I want you to stop looking on the small things. What are you gonna eat tonight? I want you to decide what you're gonna eat tonight. And when you decide what you're gonna wear this week, and I know it sounds so basic,

but I promise you, we have outsourced these decisions since we're young to our parents, our friends, our families, our partners. This is one of the best exercises you can do. What do you think about it? What do you wanna eat? Start trusting yourself with these smaller decisions. Just a few more things I wanna mention to you

is that no one else lives with the consequences of your choices. They don't have to live with the consequences of your choices. When they give advice, live with the consequences of your choices. So when they give advice, remember their advice is free of considering the consequences. Sometimes I think about how much our words hold value. And when we're untrained, we say really deep things without consideration. And so I want you to be really thoughtful about that because you have to live with the consequences, why you should be involved deeply in the decision making.

So I want to thank you for listening today's episode. I hope it helps you. I hope it helps you navigate the challenging tides of listening to other people's opinions. And I'm so grateful you're listening to On Purpose. I see you. I hear you. I'm here for you. See you soon. to the podcast, it's okay that you're not okay. Look, everyone's at least a little bit not okay these days, and all those things we don't usually talk about. Maybe we should. This season I'm joined by stellar guests like Abromata, Rachel Cargol, and so many more. It's okay that you're not okay. New episodes each and every Monday, available on the iHeartRadio app, or wherever you listen to podcasts. I'm Dr. Romani, and I am back with season two of my podcast,

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