On Purpose with Jay Shetty - 7 Questions You Must Ask to Deepen Any Relationship, Friendship or Partnership
Episode Date: August 12, 2022Do you want to meditate daily with me? Go to go.calm.com/onpurpose to get 40% off a Calm Premium Membership. Experience the Daily Jay. Only on Calm Being in a relationship is a work in progress. Full...y committing to that relationship is hard work. There are no shortcuts, no hacks. There is no one pattern that works for everyone.  It’s a handful, and both must be fully invested to make it work.   In this episode of On Purpose, Jay Shetty shares relationship questions that will make you think, rethink, and contemplate whether you’re doing enough to nurture your relationship.  Want to be a Jay Shetty Certified Life Coach? Get the Digital Guide and Workbook from Jay Shetty https://jayshettypurpose.com/fb-getting-started-as-a-life-coach-podcast/ Key Takeaways:00:00 Intro02:58 7 questions to ask to help improve relationships05:17 Question #1: What am I doing right that I should do more of?09:17 Question #2: What should I do less of?12:39 Question #3: What do I do that makes you confident?14:23 Question #4: What do I do that makes you anxious?17:47 Question #5: What is your love language?20:40 Question #6: What’s your fight style?22:09 Question #7: Is this relationship going in the direction you want it to go?Like this show? Please leave us a review here - even one sentence helps! Post a screenshot of you listening on Instagram & tag us so we can thank you personally!See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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You can still make someone feel anxious, even if you love them. If you don't know how your
actions and words impact them. If you are not aware of how your actions
and behavior and your words make someone feel,
it doesn't matter how much you love them,
they can still feel anxious and uncomfortable.
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So today, this episode's a really special one as well,
because I really wanted to address our relationships. Now we
always hear that our relationships are important, we know that. But often it's
really hard. How many times do you sit at dinner with someone you love and you
struggle to have a meaningful conversation and you spend your time on your phone,
maybe in the car on the way back in the evening,
you wish you had more deeper connection.
Or how many of you turn on a show
because it's an easier way to spend time together
than starting an actual discussion.
How many of you don't know what to talk about?
How many of you run out of topics?
Maybe you run out of conversation ideas,
especially if you've been together for a while.
Now, whether you're talking about a business relationship, a romantic relationship,
a family relationship, or a friendship, these seven questions I'm going to introduce you today
are going to make a huge difference in your life.
And the reason they make a difference is because they all allow you to create vulnerability,
create connection and create intimacy, especially as relationships deepen. We're not always going
to learn something new about someone. We may feel there's nothing left to learn, but you can always
learn something new about them, even
if it's by going deeper.
Sometimes it's no longer about going wider, it's about going deeper, and these questions
allow that.
So that's the intimacy part.
The second thing I said was vulnerability.
We know that relationships that have vulnerability actually bring people closer together.
We feel if we don't have arguments, if we avoid uncomfortable conversations, then we'll be closer. What you don't realize is that avoiding
a two-hour argument could create a two-week issue. A two-hour argument could save you from
two weeks of pain and issues. So these conversations may be thought
provoking and challenging and difficult in the beginning, but they can actually
help us. And the third thing I mentioned was connection. A lot of the times when
we talk, we talk about ourselves and we don't talk about ourselves in relation
to the person we have a relationship with. And so you're not often talking about your relationship, you might be talking about your to-do list,
you might be talking about your weekend plans, you might be talking about your work plans,
but you're not talking about the relationship. And these seven questions are designed to help
you have healthier, more powerful, more productive conversations in your relationship.
Now I'm really excited to walk through these with you
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So the first question I want to introduce to you,
this question is, what am I doing right
that I should do more of?
What is it that I'm doing that you notice and appreciate? What is it that I'm doing that you actually think is good and you'd love for me to do it more
because it works. Notice how you could ask this to a romantic partner or a work partner,
whoever may be, a friend. What this allows for you is that it boosts your own self-esteem. You recognize that the person you're sitting
with does recognize your hard work, your effort. They do recognize the energy you're putting
into it. They do recognize the amount of input you have. And often if that person doesn't have a natural
way of reminding you of this, you forget. And in your head, you build the narrative that
they don't care. They don't notice me. They don't appreciate me. They avoid me. It's
really fascinating to me to see that that we build up stories in our head
without actually checking in with the other person. When you say to the other person,
what am I doing right that I should do more of? They get to tell you, well, I love the way
you send emails in an organized way. I love that you message me, you love me in the morning.
I love that whenever I need you, you always pick up. And all of a sudden
you feel appreciated, you feel considered, you feel heard, you feel seen, all of those things
that you didn't feel just a moment ago, you get a chance to alleviate, you get a chance to
recognize that actually the person you think doesn't notice you notices you more than you think they notice you
You with me and what it does for the other person is really special
It gives them an opportunity
To complement you or share gratitude with you
Often what I find is that because we haven't been trained in gratitude
because we haven't been a
Customed to learn how to give genuine compliments
we struggle.
And so often someone that you're with or someone that you're working with may not even
know that you need that, they may not know how to do it, they may feel uncomfortable.
I often have people I had a review for the podcast the other day.
Thank you for everyone leaving reviews.
I read a review that just said, Jay, I don't want to be overly, you know, excited, but I
just love this podcast and I was thinking, but that's not overly Jay, I don't want to be overly, you know, excited, but I just love
this podcast and I was thinking, but that's not overly excited. I appreciate that. But
people are scared of sharing compliments and gratitude. So by you asking this question,
what am I doing right that I should do more of? Not only do you get a chance to hear that
this person does care about you, they do notice you. You also give them an opportunity to practice gratitude and complementing, which is healthy
for their mental health and their well-being.
Now let's look at the awkward scenario where you ask this question and the person has
nothing to say, right?
Let's say you ask this question and the person has nothing to say.
You're now recognizing that there is a bit of a way to go.
Whether that person isn't aware, whether they really don't notice, whether they're not
conscious, this is an opportunity for you to recognize where you stand with someone
based on the quality of their response.
Their response may be immediate, their response may be thoughtful,
they may pause for a while and that's fine
because that shows a sign of a genuine answer.
But if they say, well, I don't think there's anything,
I think everything's fine.
Don't get angry at them, don't get mad at them,
don't get upset with them.
Say, think about it, come back to me when you've thought
about it and give them some time,
let them maybe sit with it for a week,
let them really sit with that because they week, let them really sit with that
because they may give you a really thoughtful response. So that's question number one.
The second question is, what should I do less of? So you just asked for something that
created a compliment or gratitude. Now you want to ask for feedback. Do it in this order.
What is it that I do that I should do less of? Is there something that I do right now that you'd like me to do a little less
of? This is really powerful. You're asking for feedback without saying do you have feedback
for me? You're actually asking for a chance to improve. You're asking for a chance to
allow that person to share. If you really love them, if you really care about them and
you believe they care about you, isn't it healthy for them to say hey, I feel like every time I get home
You're always asking me about my day and I get really tired to answer that then I'd love to answer that a bit later
Or you always ask me really important questions while I'm on my phone and please next I'm just say to me
Hey, can you just please not be on your phone while I ask you this? And I'll give you more attention, right?
So there's so many ways of using this as an opportunity to create a healthier, more powerful connection.
We've really asked for feedback in relationships because what happens in relationships is we think
the other person should know. We think the other person should know.
We think the other person should read our mind.
We think that the other person should already be aware.
Or we don't give it because we're scared.
We're scared.
And therefore when you ask someone, you're opening up a safe space.
But you've got to be ready to ask him, why will you be ready? Because you'll understand
that no matter what they say is not personal to you. It's about a pattern, a trait, a habit,
but it's not about you. Now you'll say, well, Jay, what do you mean? Of course it's about
me. If they're telling me that I need to be less distracted when I'm on my phone.
How is that not about me?
You're not a distracted person,
you're a person who has distractions.
So making time and now being able to be present
is actually helping you too.
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Question number three,
what do I do that makes you feel confident?
This is a wonderful question to ask someone when you have trust in a business, when you have trust in a relationship
That person makes you feel confident. If you think about the relationships that we don't like in our life
and
If we think about a relationship that we're struggling with it's because that person doesn't make us feel confident in a dating relationship. If someone makes
you feel insecure, you don't know if you trust them in a business relationship. If you
can't count on someone, if someone isn't reliable, that means you don't have confidence
in them. You don't trust them. And ultimately, if you can't expect that a fund will be there
when you need them, you don't have confidence in them. So when you say, what do I do that makes you feel confident?
You get a chance to see the level of trust you have in a relationship. So if you say, what do I do
that makes you feel confident? And they say, well, you always compliment me. You're always noticing
the good in me. That's beautiful. They recognize that. If you say, what do I do that makes you
feel confident? And they say, well, you know, from a work perspective, I always feel organized
because I know you're on top of my schedule. This allows you to repeat that habit. And it
allows that person to acknowledge that you make them feel confident. It deepens trust.
It deepens your bond and relationships
in ways that you can't imagine.
So that's question number three,
and really it's for your repetition.
It's so that you can repeat that action
to build confidence, to build trust in that relationship.
How many of you want to be in relationships
that are trusting, that are building confidence?
Question number four is,
what do I do that makes you anxious?
What do I do that I might not even be aware of?
That makes you anxious.
What do I do that makes you feel uncomfortable?
That I might not even be aware of.
I might actually be thinking I'm helping.
I realized with me and Rady,
I would always ask her a question.
I'd always say,
well, let's go through your work schedule, like how are you feeling about what's coming up this week? And she'd always be like, I would always ask her a question. I'd always say to, well, let's go through your work schedule, like, how are you feeling about what's coming up this week?
And she'd always be like, I don't want to talk about that. And she, later on, when I
asked her this question, told me, Hey, I feel anxious when you talk to me about work on
the weekends, because I just want to switch up from everything. And I was like, wow, that's
so interesting, because I always thought I was helping you plan and we judge ourselves by our intention
Noted by the effect of how it makes that person feel
But how that person feels is more important than I intention so when I ask Rady
Hey, let's talk about your work schedule. I have great intentions
I love her and I want to help her but if my intention is that but it makes her feel uncomfortable
Then I need to change that so what do I do that makes you feel anxious?
What do I do that makes you feel uncomfortable?
Is a great question to allow the other person to be vulnerable with you and for you to gain
awareness?
And I think for so many people, we don't want to ask this question because we want to think
we do everything right and we think that our intention is right.
Therefore, we're not worried about, well, we, well, well, what could I do to make them
feel anxious? Cause I love them. I care about them. You can still make someone feel
anxious, even if you care about them, if you've not understood how they receive it.
Let me repeat that. You can still make someone feel anxious, even if you love them, if you don't know how
your actions and words impact them. If you are not aware of how your actions and behavior
and your words make someone feel, it doesn't matter how much you love them, they can still
feel anxious and uncomfortable. I once said to someone on my team,
what do I do that makes you feel uncomfortable?
What do I do that makes you feel anxious?
They said, Jay, you are always onto the next.
You're always changing, you're always iterating.
And that makes me feel uncomfortable
because I don't feel like what I've done is good enough.
And I thought, wow, this is amazing,
like because I would compliment, I would congratulate,
but still that wasn't enough.
And they said, well, sometimes I just need to feel
like, reminded again that we did get someone.
I'm like, wow, thank you so much for that.
Like, thank you for giving me that feedback.
So when you ask someone for this,
you get so many wonderful, profound responses. I want you to really test this out. The reason
I'm doing this episode, instead of just giving you principles, I'm trying to give you questions
because I want you to try these out. I want you to test them out. I want to give you
real tools on this podcast, not just ideas or concepts, but tools that you can practice
with someone you work with, someone you love,
someone you have a deep friendship with,
whoever it may be, because I want you to get this clarity
in your relationship.
See, relationships deepen when there's clarity.
We always say, oh, the importance behind a relationship
is communication, but the key to good communication
is clarity.
And you only get clarity when you ask great questions.
Okay, question number five is, what is your love language?
We all know the book Love Languages, the Gary Chapman made, the five love languages.
If you don't know it, it's an awesome theory, the idea of we all like to receive love in
different ways, but we often give love in the way we want to receive it,
not in the way someone else wants to receive it.
So the five love languages are words of affirmation, physical touch, receiving gifts, quality
time and acts of service.
So words of affirmation is people in our lives who like to be reminded through words that
they have achieved something, that they are worthy, that they are loved, right? The idea that we need a love note, we need a text, we need encouragement,
words of affirmation, you know people in your life. And we all need all of these, but we
need them in order. Second is physical touch, holding hands, hugs, morning cuddles, right?
Whatever it may be, physical touch. It could also be a
A gentle hand just to say, yeah, I'm here with you. I'm here for you, right?
It's all nonverbal. It's body language-based.
Receiving gifts, I mean, this was a big one for me for a long, long time.
I love receiving gifts. And I love giving gifts, but I realized that not everyone in my life
Needs gifts in the way I do. So I love receiving gifts, like absolutely love
personalized gifts, and I love giving people personalized gifts.
And I started to realize that people didn't respond
to gifts in the way I did.
So some people, when they got gifts from me,
no matter how amazing they were,
they were like, yeah, that's great, thank you.
But really they wanted the next one, quality time.
They wanted quality time, and this is the thing
about love languages, you can't buy someone over with words of affirmation if really they
what they want is quality time. You can't replace physical touch with a gift. And then the
last fifth one is acts of service. People want support, people want help when you go out
of your way. I had one friend who wants acts of service and so nothing else is considered
as important as an act of service. She feels you can't be a friend if there hasn't been
an act of service.
Asking your partner what their love language is is a really useful skill, a really powerful
skill because it gives that opportunity, it gives that ability
for someone to tell you how they want to be loved.
Now when it's their birthday,
if what they want is words of affirmation,
you might write them a poem, you might write them
the longest card ever, you might write them a secret clue
that leads to all these different things
that they learn about themselves.
If someone wants acts of service,
you may make them breakfast in bed instead of buying them
a gift and often you're like,
well, I just bought you an amazing gift,
why don't you happen?
They're like, but I'm really looking for acts of service.
So asking someone what their love language is
helps you love them better.
And that can be a work colleague and be a friend.
It can be anyone in your life.
The sixth question, which is stuff
that I'm really working on right now
that I can't wait to share with you in my next book,
is what's your fight style?
Do you run away and need to be alone?
Do you wanna talk it out?
Or are you someone that needs to scream and shout?
Like, do I need to get used to that?
Do I need to be aware of that?
What I love about these questions
is you also get to open up about your answers.
When you've asked a question,
you get to then share with the other person,
how you feel, what you're going through,
what you're experiencing as well.
So, fight styles, now I know, like,
Rady, she needs to sit and reflect,
and I wanna talk it out.
We're both not shouting people,
we're not overly aggravated people,
but in the beginning, I would be like,
oh, well, if you don't wanna talk about it,
that means you don't care about it. And she'd be like, I do care about
it, but I need to think about it. And then I'd be like, all right, well, let's meet in
the middle. When do we talk about this? Let's set a time so that we do get there. A lot
of this requires cooperation. But if we don't have the basic cooperation, chances are,
we don't really have a strong relationship. And that's painful to understand. But it's true that a relationship requires a lot of collaboration and
cooperation. So if we're not collaborating and cooperating on this,
makes it really tough. So truthfully, understanding each other's
fights, style saves you a lot of energy and time. If you never asked that question,
you left guessing, wishing, waiting, hoping,
so many different things that are going on, right? So many different things. Now, the
seventh question is, and this is the toughest one, the hardest one, is this relationship
going in the direction you want it to go? If not, what is the direction? And shall we
both commit to that? Can we both commit to that? This is one of
those questions that you wait to ask when you feel really confident in a relationship.
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We were asking this question are we going in the direction we want to go in and we've
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And now that we've done that over four days, I can't wait for what's coming to you.
Like, I cannot express to you how excited I am about all the amazing updates
We have coming your way about what's happening in our world and ecosystem and that came from asking that question
Is this going in the right direction? What can we do to get it in the right direction?
We know we believe in each other. We know we're connected, but what do we need to do?
these are the seven questions to ask to deepen any relationship and
Improve vulnerability intimacy and connection. Thank you so much for listening. I hope you test these out test one of them out this week
Test one out every day
Give it a go in different relationships and watch how your life changes
Thanks for listening. I'll be back next week with two extra exciting episodes
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This is what it sounds like inside the box car.
And into the city of the rails.
There I found a surprising world, so brutal and beautiful,
that it changed me.
But the rails do that to everyone.
There is another world out there.
And if you want to play with the devil,
you're going to find them down in the rail yard.
I'm Denon Morton.
Come with me to find out what waits for us and the city of the rails.
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