On Purpose with Jay Shetty - Big Sean ON: Releasing Negative Perspectives to Realize Your Own Path Forward

Episode Date: March 1, 2021

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Not only am I talking to the one and only Big Sean, one of the most successful rappers out there, multiple number one topping chart singles, albums on the Billboard. But what I'm fascinated about him is his dedication to personal growth, his journey with meditation, his focus on well-being, physical mental, spiritual and emotional. And today we're going to talk about all of that right here on on purpose. Please welcome Big Sean. Thank you, man. That was a great intro. Well, it was from the heart, man. I feel it.

Like when I started listening to your music, before I knew about your personal journey, I loved your music. And then I saw you start talking about the journey you've been on personally and I thought this is someone even before we were connected. I was like, this is someone I really want to get to know because it's not easy to talk about the things you talk about. It's not easy to be vulnerable in your position with the career you have, the way you have.

And so I can't wait to dive into it today, but I was gonna start with something a bit different because we have a few more things in common. I was reading somewhere that you said that in another life, you might have been a film critic. Yeah. And I love that, because I love movies. I was gonna ask you.

Oh, me too, and I pick them. I like, I don't pick them apart. You know, sometimes lately I've been watching movies just based on how it makes me feel like I take my critical hat off, and I'm just like, I don't pick them apart, you know, sometimes lately I've been watching movies just based on how it makes me feel like I take my critical hat off. And I'm just like, I enjoy the good story, you know, like the hero's journey or just like, you know, great pieces, great shows, great plots, you feel me? Well, it's been a movie that you feel is like, defined the way you think or moved you in a way that in the way that you're speaking about right now, that left-to-losting impact. For a scump, for sure. That's one of the ones that struck me hard. The Matrix, I had a special relationship with the Matrix because Niels' name was Mr. Anderson. So that's my last name too. So I

always struck a core with me. Definitely, I'm a huge, I'm a big nerd, so I love Batman. I love all Marvel DC, anime, Dragon Ball Z, Star Wars, Star Trek. That's something that really my brother kind of got me into early on. But what I connected with, everything about things, like Dragon Ball or Star Wars, they all have to deal with that power within. And I feel like that's why I connected to it so much. It would be like against all possible odds, they would dig deep and go to a new level that people,

you know, not only did not expect them to, but was, was, quote unquote impossible. He filled me, you know, my girl would be like, nerd. And I'll be like, yeah, whatever. It's who I am. It's who I am. It's who I am. People don't expect it, because you're fashionable

and you got swag and then all of a sudden you start talking about movies and comics. I can talk about it all day, but not just that. Like I said, great movies. They go hand-to-hand. like when I'm in the studio creating, like I have a set up where it's like these screens and I'll play like two movies that want some time just for aesthetic, not looking at them,

but it's just, I love it, man. That's like definitely a passion of mine, for sure, that maybe I'll tap into more later on in life. You know? Yeah, I could see that. Because I love writing, I love stories, I love all of that. Yeah, have you directed your music videos as well, right? Yeah, well, I have a best friend, Lawrence, who we actually did just started production company who's directed a lot of my big videos,

a lot of my big songs. We won some awards together and things like that, but you know, for most of my life music has always been my first priority, you know. But that is something that has also gotten me in trouble. You know, it's got me in trouble and I'll explain that a little more because being from Detroit, right, and I'm from a family where they were hard workers. My grandma was one of the first female black captains in World War II. She was one of the first female black captains in World War II. She was one of the first female cops in Detroit. And then later, she was done being a police officer.

She was a teacher, a counselor. She was like a strong woman. And my granddad too, they met in World War II. And he has a similar story of just being so strong. I come from a family where it's hard work, hard work. And everyone went to college and it's educated. And I was kind of the first in my family to go on a different career path. You know, my mom used to always play all these like,

uh, Motown, like she would play Stevie Wonder, Diana Ross, all these, uh, the Isley Brothers,, like all always in the morning. And I kind of fell in love with the music, you know? But my whole life, I remember when I was graduating high school and I was graduating with a high GPA, I was on my way with a full scholarship to college, but I wanted to do music. I knew it, I knew I wanted to do music.

And every time I got excited about it, I could just tell that it was real. Like I could just feel the connection. Like I don't care what anybody could tell me. Like nah, you tripping. Like man, you gonna fall on your ass. You know, you're gonna be out here with no living on the street, man.

If you, you know, you gotta play it safe. You gotta have a backup plan and all that stuff. And obviously that is a way for a lot of people. But for me, it was like, I put all my eggs in one basket. Tonight, you know, my scholarship. Yeah. And you can stay. Yeah. And it didn't work out at first, you know, it didn't work out for me. You know, I was like, and that was the first time in my life where I hit a very big wall of depression, a very big wall of anxiety, a very pivotal moment

in my life where I just didn't even feel like living. And this, not to be dramatic, I was 18 years old, but those are defining moments in your life. And when you're around 17 or 18, cause you're around the same time, when you saw that month speak, cause I'm also reading your book, think like a month. And that's a pivotal moment, you know, coming out of high school

and all my friends went to college. I didn't go, you know, I ended up meeting Kanye West, right? Rappin' for this is my idol. This was my number one person who I wanted to sign to. And I felt like I manifested that. And my mom is someone who introduced certain books to me that I was reading at the time. When I was around 17, she introduced me to Esther and Jerry Hicks.

And also the secret, you know, the secret. And you know, she was like, you know, you can do it like you can manifest it. And I just believed it. I really did. So. Tell us about that process of manifesting. I mean, treat here,

but we just had Ronda on the podcast. It's on the burn. Yeah, I just interviewed her two weeks ago. Wow. So I'd love to hear from you. I was gonna ask you about that moment from a different angle. People have heard you tell the story.

I find like our generation today is so lost in procrastination, overthinking, overanalyzing, but you just went there and showed up without knowing if it was gonna go anywhere. Like you were ready to be rejected, ready to fail, ready for it to fall flat on your face. Yeah, because it was like, I couldn't look back and wish I could have showed him.

And I just felt like, I don't know why. And that was one of the concepts for one of my albums, but I just don't know why I felt like I lived a life already and regretted it. And I was like, I just felt that in my heart as a young, as a teenager. So I was like, I got to make it happen. That was just it. It was no other option.

She presented these books to me and it's like, she's like a guardian angel. I feel like I'm feels like when I look back on it, it's like, man, I'm really living with angels. My mom, my grandma, because they would give me books I would never read, you know, give me books, try and introduce me to meditation and all these things. But it was when I felt hopeless, you know, and I hate that it got to that point, but I was young too. And I was like, I might as well just pick this book up.

I might as well just, let me just see what's going on with this because this has to work. And when you pick those books up and you crack it open, you realize that the book was talking to you. You realize that these books have energy and that it's attracting you. It's not just for, it's not just because for no reason. It's like they,

it's literally there in your hands up in your hands because it's destiny, you know? And that's one of the things I learned. So as I cracked it open, I remember reading the seven spiritual laws of success and tearing up, you know? And I remember reading, asking and it's given by a string Jerry Hicks and like, filling my whole vibration change. And that is one of the most, that is the first time that I realized that there are two realities. There's a reality that we see with our eyes and our feel and touch. And in there is a reality, just as real, where it is our spiritual world that we can create and manifest.

And that is the reality with a capital R. You know what I'm saying? That's the real reality that you bring to the other reality. I did these exercises, man. I like, I never read, I only read books because I had to in school. That was like my thing. I can relate. You know?

And with some good books, right? Like, I remember reread animal farm, the hobby, all these great books that helped me, but I still never read on my own time. So these were the first books I read on my own time. You know, I graduated high school. I ended up meeting Kanye right before I graduated high school.

So I ended up rapping for him. It's a classic fairy tale hip-hop story. You meet your idol, you rap for him. He hears you out. And I had been recording CDs since I was 11 years old, man. So I have been passing out CDs around school, selling them for $5, $3. I have been participating in open mics, battle rapping.

I had gone to the radio station every Friday after school, even when, you know, because when I turned 16, my grandmother had a stroke and she had a brand new car. So it just, it was a bitter sweet thing because it was tragic to see my grandma, you know, have a stroke and the strongest woman I've ever seen literally get old instantaneously. And then I ended up getting a car which provided me to get places that I needed to get to, to make the moves I was trying to make, because I had that in the hustling mentality.

I was like, I had to do it. Eminem was the only rapper from Detroit at the time. Yeah. That was doing it big. And just to keep it real, I was like, I gotta represent for black. You feel me, and be like, and put on for my city, and just felt the responsibility, man.

And I would do this radio show every week. I, you know, and that led me to meeting Kanye because he was at the radio promoting his album lay registration at the time. You know, I met him from doing the radio show there every Friday. I lied and said I left my phone in the back offices so they would let me in the back to go check because I knew that's where the artist would go. I got a chance to rap for him as he was walking out. You know, he was like, I'm real busy. How did you have the courage to do that?

Because I feel like people probably see you and they're like, oh, I wanna go rap for bitch. Like, you know, people wanna repeat. All the time. Yeah, exactly. So how do you think you were able to even have the courage to be like, I'm just gonna find a way in the hallway. Like, you know, when he's walking, he's a busy guy.

Well, because when I did that radio show every Friday, we were wrapped on the air, on the radio. That was the most nervous wrecking thing I've ever had to do in my life. It would be like, oh my God, everybody who's listening to the radio right now is hearing me. And that was a beautiful platform, right, for up and coming MCs, to come in and display. I would write a new verse every weekend. I was super nervous.

So I had done that for about a year straight already by the time I met him. So I was used to rapping under pressure. Right. So when I saw him and was delivering it, it was just like, I had so many wraps in my head already. And I was freestyle and I was used to delivering under pressure. So I was able to dynamically, I delivered it as best I could. Yeah. And he heard me, he heard me out.

And he was like, well, you got a CD. And it's like, well, yeah, because I had CDs that I was selling in high school. I had my CDs ready., you got a CD. And it's like, well, yeah, because I had CDs that I was selling in high school. I had my CDs ready. I had a bio ready. I had everything ready. And it's crazy because ever since I was 11 years old, everything single thing I had done so far

I led up to that moment. It all happened. And it was like, yeah, I had the CD. I had this, I had that. And he followed through, but it took years after that. That's what people don't get. It wasn't like I wrapped for him and that was it. You know, I wrapped for him and thought

it was gonna be like that. That's why I didn't go to school. That's why I turned everything down. And then I stopped getting a response from him. And then all my friends are in college, a whole semester goes by and they're like, man, you could have came to school, would you still at home?

Like, what's up with Kanye? What's up with your record deal? Like, what's up with Kanye? What's up with your record deal? Like, what's up? Like, that's the hardest to hit. That's the hardest. And I come from a family. My grandma is like, why aren't, you know, you need to go to school.

Like, this is the way to a better life. You know, she grew up in poverty and made her way to that point, you know? And she's like, education is the way. And it was the hardest thing to go against the grain, you know? And my mom was really one of the only people who even though she was the teacher herself, the English teacher has her master's degree,

she knew what it was like to have a dream and she knew what it was like to chase it. So she believed, of course, education is important, but you can always go back and get it. You can't always take that chance. I do it the other way around. So during that time period, for like a year and a half or two, what I did was that was the first time

I intensely worked on myself. And I intensely would read these books and meditate every day and imagine myself like living the life that I was, you know, trying to live. And I don't know how to explain it. It was like, I feel like I was there. And what that did was it put me there. It really did to make a long story short, put me there.

What were the work that you were doing with that meditation and vision in? Because I'm sure like you said, and I'm really glad you brought it up. Because before like you said, I was at the radio station. I was wrapping live. It was nervous. Like, what I find is that with yourself and stories like yours, there's manifestation, but there's also a ton of hard work in the background.

Yes, it is. And tell me about that part of what were you doing in the background while you're meditating, you're envisioning, you're seeing yourself there. What's happening with rap music and music? Well, one of the things that I would do in my meditations is I would put out the, like I would like, let me attract the people, energy places that I need to go to the next level

in my career. Let me attract the people. And I would meet people, I would meet producers. And we would lock in and, you know know who had his common belief as mine or like you know the same one and I'm trying to get on as a producer like you trying to get on as less work right and I would write things down. I would just I treated it like it was a job and also one of the things I had to put in perspective is that it didn't matter how hard I was working necessarily.

It really mattered how smart I was working. You know, I had a perception, it is hard work, you're right. But I had the perception that it takes hard work until I realized that some of the most successful people I knew would work a couple hours a day. Yeah. And enjoy their life. Yeah, it's flowing.

And at the end of my, and me and my mom, we grew up in debt and she worked two jobs and she was working most of her life. So it just didn't make sense to me, you know, early on. I'm like, it's not about working hard. It's about working efficiently and smarter. So that's one of the things I really learned at that age too. So I would, it's a big lesson.

You know, because a lot of the other people who I would see at studios, they would be like, I mean, I may eight songs today, like I'll be like, well, I'm still, I've been working on the same song for like a week and a half, but it's not about that, you know? It's about the product, it's about what you're doing and not about necessarily how much you're pumping out.

And that was something I really had to accept because your ego will not let you accept that sometimes. We've been conditioned to think all these things. And I feel like one of the things your book talks about. We've been conditioned to think a certain way. We've been conditioned to, you know, we're given a certain amount of options, guidance, options, directions. You're supposed to do this, you're supposed to do that, you're supposed to follow the line, you're supposed to do that, you're supposed to do that. You guys got to do the, you know, the our whole lives and some of it is great, but some of it just doesn't apply to everyone.

That's one of the things I had to realize and redo my foundation of my whole life and be my architect. Well, said, man, that's beautiful. I love the way you've expressed that because that must have been an uncomfortable place to live for one or two years. When you feel you're going to get your break, it doesn't happen. Your friends and I will move on. Yeah. And everyone's...

And I'm still in the same bed that I was gruffing. You know, I was sleeping in a twin size bed. I mean, I'm 18, 19 years old, you feel me. Yeah. And it was so frustrating and it was a test of my ego, bro. It was a test of my ego, but I was a visualized Kanye reaching out. I was visualized. I just knew that it was going to happen.

I didn't know how and I was like, I'm gonna make it happen somehow and it just, it did, bro. It's like something you got to trust. You know, imagine you being on a cliff and it's like, there's no more cliff there, but you like, Hey man, there's an invisible bridge. You know, if you had a guy, a guy that's next to you, like you had your higher self-walking next to you and you're like, bro, there's no where to walk. And he's like, I'm telling you, if you take a step, it's an invisible bridge right in front of you.

And that takes a lot of faith to walk on that bridge. Yeah. You know, that you can't even see. But that's what I had to do because that you can't even see. Yeah. But that's what I had to do because that's the decision I made. I wasn't about to go back to school at that moment. I wasn't about to go back to my friends and be like, man, y'all was right. Like, I messed up, man. I should've just, you know, I couldn't do it.

You know, and that may have been my ego too, but I did let that motivate me. And then he did reach out. Tell us about that moment, how it felt internally around, were you like, oh, wow, this manifestation stuff works? Was that a point where you deepened your faith and belief in the invisible bridge, where you were like, oh, this stuff really works? Or do you think you already believed that it worked? And it was just about trust. Or was this like a confidence point, man? I had the trust at first.

Yeah, okay. I had the trust at first. Beautiful, yeah. You know, and that's the thing with everything. You gotta trust it. Then it started working. You know, things necessarily don't work before you trust it. It's kind of like you got, you know,

I think that's one of the lessons I have to learn. You know, I had the trust in me, trust myself, trust the process, trust God's speed. You know, that expression is so popular for a reason. You know, you can make all these plans. My grandma used to be like, man, you make all these plans. God's gonna laugh at you. Yes, yeah. You know, that classic saying and she would say that to me.

And so many sayings like that, just mean so much more now because it's yeah. You know, that classic saying and she would say that to me. And so many sayings like that, just mean so much more now because it's true. That's why it's so popular. What goes around comes around. You know, all these little things that we heard. They're true. They're true. You know, it's been a beautiful time.

And when he did reach out, it was confirmation that trust wasn't wasted. That trust wasn't betrayed, because God always is, or the universe, or whatever you believe in, it's all a higher power, right? And that is guiding us in one step support us. Yes.

And does support us, not once two does support us. Absolutely. Did you ask him what took him so long? No, because I knew people who were like 30, 40 years old that never got there. Yeah. So I'm not going to be like, man, I'm not. It took two years.

What took so long, you know? Yeah. You know, and it was a process after that. And things, I'm not going to sit here and say life is smooth sailing. Never. You know, it's not gonna sit here and say life is smooth sailing. Never. You know, it's not smooth sailing. It's like a constant, unraveling experience, right? And things, so many times, where other things don't go my way

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you get your podcasts. Join the journey soon. We see an external PR version of who we think those people are on the front cover of magazines and music videos or whatever it may be but behind everyone there's a deeper story. It wasn't just like that. I mean, treat because I feel like a lot of people listening to us right now, they may actually feel blocked from that envisioning, right? They feel blocked. Like they feel like when have you felt blocked

or if someone's listening and they feel blocked, how do they remove that? How do they let go? What do they need until they go off? Well, this is deep dog. You get in deep. I had to go there with you. You're giving me deep talks.

I don't wanna, you know, could have dive in. Well, one thing I have learned on my journey is that there are blocks that are sometimes placed on us from our parents, or from our surroundings. And whether you believe this or not, I believe it is true, even from a past life. And it makes total sense, because I've met complete babies who were like, this is like an old man sitting here, right?

He's very mature. You know, it's like, I have worked with people who have helped me remove blocks from my life. Marie Diamond being one of them, you know, and that's a whole deeper conversation. But she has been a mentor to me spiritually and helped me along my spiritual journey. You know, honestly, when I just think about the blocks that I've had in my life, so to go back to that,

to think about people who are feeling blocked, know that you have to believe that you can feel unblocked because you're giving a power by acknowledging like, I'm blocked, I'm blocked. You put that out in the universe. Remember, like what we said, the saying is that people live by that you've heard what goes around comes around what you get is what you give. Those are real things.

And that subconscious mind is just as powerful as the conscious one. We say, oh, I'm feeling blocked. Or man, I'm just, I'm down bad. You know, I've heard people just say all these things that they put on themselves. Like, I can't figure it out. I can they put on themselves. I can't figure it out. I can't figure it out. I can't figure it out. So okay, imagine if you're in front of the universe and God and he's like, whatever you

say, I'm going to give back to you. Whatever you say, I'm going to give it back to you. So you said, if you're like, I can't figure it out. I can't make money. I can't do this. I can't do it. I feel like I, it's like even when I did feel blocked, I can't do this, I can't do, you know, I just, I feel like I, it's like even when I did feel black,

I never, I never owned it. Mm. I would be like, I never would keep saying it. I'd be like, no, okay, I gotta switch that. I gotta feel better. So the first key to unblocking something is acknowledging that you are blocking yourself for sure. Mm.

You know, and I do think there are some deeper blocks that you gotta work harder on to remove like blocks that may have not even been put there from you so you don't even acknowledge it or know how to remove it. And there are special people who can do this, you know? That can help you get rid of it, but I do feel like you're blocking yourself.

Stop blocking yourself. It doesn't matter if you don't have money, don't say you don't have money. Yeah. You're like, I got money, money's coming in right now. Like, if you keep that mentality and you're not rich, if you really believe it, which you have to believe it because you will be whatever you want to be.

And it's never too late to be who you want to be. Yeah, absolutely. I used to have a mentor I remember used to repeat to me the Napoleon Hill words of like like you become what you think about Yeah, and he just keeps saying it to me and he told me to keep saying it when he first said I was just like oh come on Like you know how many times you're gonna say it's like a mantra when I first became a monk and they Introduce me to mantra man saying the same thing every day again and again and you think you know this ain't gonna work But actually what you're saying is true

that when you repeat, you become what you think about. Yeah. And when you keep repeating it, it becomes your vocabulary, it becomes your mindset, it becomes your thought, and then it becomes your reality. And your spawner, I love what you said about being in front of God, and you saying, I can't do this, I can't do that.

And God's giving you back. Exactly. What you'll repeat is. He's like, you're right, saying, I can't do this, I can't do that. And God's giving you back exactly what you'll repeat it. He's like, you're right, man, you can. All right, hey, like. Yeah, you said it, yeah. And that is such a great way of thinking about it as a conversation around how we're creating our reality through our repetition. One of the things that you did make me think about this

is when I would come home and watch Bob Ross on PBS painting the pictures or when I would watch Michael Jordan and all these and Kobe Bryant and all these inspiring people, it just brings me back to technique. How much life, how much of life is truly technique? And that is one of the biggest secrets I've learned when I was going through one of the roughest times of my life a few years ago. I had just turned 30 and I was feeling so depressed, bro. And I had just moved into my house that I've been in

for a few years in Beverly Hills, right? All these neighbors are, you know, Vanna White is my neighbor. I'm like talking like this is like, to me, this is like my dream, this is my dream neighborhood, right? All these neighbors are, you know, Vanna White is my neighbor. I'm like talking like this is like, to me this is like my dream, this is my dream neighborhood, right? And I was in the worst condition of my life, bro. I just felt, I felt like it was just too hard for me to even get through today.

How did you get that? Why did it get that? After all of this, envisioning, focus, inner work. How did it get that? You know why I got there? Because I lost touch with it a little bit. Not just because of that, I burned myself out. I wasn't paying attention to what my self was saying to me.

I was doing it for all different other reasons. I need to do this show. I need to do five shows so I can get this money, take care of this person, do it for this. My management, everybody is expecting me. I got these people, I got people who are on my payrolls. I'm like, I'm putting everybody before me. Yeah.

I didn't know how to balance, work, and work, because there's a work that you do for your career, and there's a work that you do for yourself. Yes. No one ever taught me that because no one knew. That's something that my dad didn't know. This is something my mom didn't know. Their mentality is you work as hard as you can,

you work as hard as you can. So I come from a place where it's like, you gotta keep the foot on the next, you gotta keep going hard, you don't wanna lose your opportunity. That was my thinking. But really, I had already had it. You know, I already have it.

So now to take it to another place, I gotta take care of myself so I can bring my best self to the table. And it's something that like forced me to do. It's something that like forced me to do, man. And I had to stop everything I was doing and completely fall back, bro. Completely fall back from looking at things about me

from being online, completely fall back from all the obligations I had to do performances money I was losing like it was just like I had to fall back from everything and take some time and that's when I met Marie Diamond and obviously I had seen her on the secret. I was you know, I knew about her and I've seen her on the secret. I knew about her. And my mom taking one of her classes, emailed Marie Diamond. I was like, hey, my son is a musician. This and this and this.

And then she got an email back from Marie Diamond. She, my mom was freaking out. And Marie Diamond said, this is so crazy because my son has Sean on his vision board. And she was, I've never worked with a rapper, you know, I've never done anything like this. She's worked with big people, you know, big, big clients. That was a serendipity, you know, I was a meant to be thing. And I got into the technique of loving myself, bro.

Bringing it back to the point I said earlier, when I would look at Bob Ross and Michael Dress, all technique. So much of life is technique. What you do is technique because it's, you know, I had to get into the technique of loving myself. I had to really make sure that put myself as a priority. My meditations came before anything. Me writing down my intentions, you know, every day or every other day or, you know, writing my thoughts down like that was a priority to me. Just spending time for myself being in nature, right? Working, I started taking care of myself more working out. It changed me for the better. And it just, it's just, it's built my strength up,

it's giving me more strength to deal with things when they don't go my way before it would tear me down. Before I used to let people's opinions about me really, really affect me. Yeah, same. And now it's like, what was I even, what am I even thinking right now? You know what I mean?

It's crazy how we can look and see a comment. That's like, I love you. I appreciate you. You changed my life. Amazing. Man, this guy sucks. And we'd be like, man, let's do just sit on I'm doing something wrong, you know, it's crazy how our mind immediately goes there because our ego. Yeah, you know, or maybe because something else, but I think it's just that ego.

It is. Yeah, but but I had to get into the technique of loving myself man, for real. Because it's an ongoing process. It's an ongoing journey, right? I had no choice. I couldn't get through the day without feeling terrible. And when you get to that point, where it's hard for you to just do anything, I knew my perspective was off. I knew, I did, and I sought therapy too. I saw therapy as I was spiritually working on myself.

It was just a perspective, bro. I used to look at things like, oh, I gotta do this. Today, I gotta do this. I gotta do this podcast. I gotta, oh man, I'm like overwhelmed. But now it's like, no, I don't gotta do that. I get to do it. I get to do this.

I get to, man, I get to live this. I get to wake up, man, and see this. I love, we lost an Ipsy hustle. Yeah. You know, we lost, my mom's best friend just died. I've lost people close to me, you know? They don't get to wake up, you know, and they leave behind kids, they leave behind life, right?

And I almost felt like I was being selfish because I was not living in the moment. You're never living in the moment when you're thinking about what you have to do. You're only living in the moment when you're enjoying each moment, right? Yeah. One of the things that I've learned, dog, is like, love doesn't hold grudges. You hold on to grudges. You go, hold on to grudges.

Like, you got to just move with love and live in the moment. And when you go, hold on to grudges, it's like you gotta just move with love and live in the moment. And when you do everything is a pleasure. You know, even if it's a lot, even if you can't get it all done, even if you're like, damn, I didn't even get to that today. It's like at least,

at least you're here at all. Mm-hmm. You know? I love that switch of what you said from, I've got to do this, to I get to do this. That's a beautiful switch in the mindset, man. I think so many of us are always, oh, I've got to do this, to I get to do this. That's a beautiful switch in the mindset, man. I think so many of us are always, oh, I've got to do this next. I've got to do, I think

that is such a great, I'm, I'm going to remember that forever. Yeah, I hope so. Yeah, I hope people really understand that because even if you're down bad, to everybody who's down bad right now, is watching this, even if it's the worst situation, you don't have a sense to your name, but somehow you're seeing it's just remember that this is your opportunity. Every situation is an opportunity, and you don't got to do more work than the next man, you get to do more work than the next man,

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or wherever you get your podcasts. Yeah, I love that. And you get to be more compassionate and empathetic because when you've been there, now when you rise, you're able to love and be compassionate to other people's pain. If you were there.

Yeah. And you get more empathy. And that's such a gift in life I feel to feel compassion to that degree is a huge gift because you've been there, you know what it feels like. And it only comes from experience. Totally, and to have that is a gift in and of itself. Tell me about, you know, now where you at,

like when we look at you now, like you've given us a really beautiful deep dive into these moments on your story. What are you visioning today? What are you working on today? What are some of those techniques for love? And I love that you use the word techniques. I think that's such a beautiful juxtaposition

between technique and love. Because people often think love is just fluid and fluffy and you know, but you're spot on. It's a science and a spirituality itself. It's both. It's strategic and sincere. It's both, right? Like I feel we live in this world where I was talking about with a friend today and I was saying that the human mind needs to get better at entertaining the idea human mind needs to get better at entertaining the idea that two opposites or two things that you think are opposite actually is where the magic happens. So when you say love is a technique, people go, no, no, no, love can't be a technique because it just has to be pure and flowing.

But actually it starts as a technique. And then it transcends. Yes. Right. It starts that way. Tell us about some of the work you're doing today, internally and externally that you feel is in line with what you're sharing. Well, first of all, I'm like going through

this cleanse right now. Yeah. This four month cleanse, that's um. That are food cleanse or? No, it's a four month cleanse. And you clean your gut in your intestines and your liver and your kidneys and You clean then you clean out parasites. I Mean at one point especially in high school like every night. I was eating McDonald's

You know what I'm saying? I was getting a double cheeseburger. I was getting taco bells getting burger King white castles I was on it. That's just because this is what we had Yeah, I would be in. That's just, because this is what we had. Yeah. I would be in the studio, my friends house, or re-recording in the basement. It's like, that's just what it was. So I was like, I really need to do this clean. So that's one of the things I'm doing now.

I do feel like when you do a cleanse, like that also cleans energetically, some of that old you that you've been holding on to for years. So that's one. You learn discipline, you learn. It's always like, I feel like there's a beautiful story that you just reminded me of from what you said. It's in a book, I think it's called The Zen of Archery.

So it's about archery. And a student comes to an archery master, a Zen master, who's also an archer and goes, I want to learn archery. And so the master goes, OK, let's learn archery. So they draw a target onto a little piece of paper. They stick it on a tree. They make a little bow out of a twig and a string and they give it to the student

and they give them a little arrow made out of a twig and they say go for it. And the person just starts like shooting twigs and they're missing. And then the master says to the student, the master says, what is your goal? And the student says, my goal is to hit that target, the bulls eye, to hit right in the middle. Right.

And the master says, so you're telling me that your goal is to shoot a twig into a piece of paper. And the students are like, yeah, isn't that what we're doing? And the master says something beautiful. The master says, that's your target. The goal is to be calm enough so that you can hit your target. I love that. And what you just said now, your target is to change your gut and purifying detox.

But the goal is the discipline, the nourishment that what you just said, like that's what you're really achieving in the cleanse. Yeah. And I think we get the goal and the target confused a lot. We think that the target is the goal, but the goal is to be still and to be present. The target's just a way of getting to that goal.

I want you to introduce me to that person afterwards who's managing that. I'm gonna tell you, Mama Miro, my mom. She is. She's the one. Everything I've ever done with health. Let me tell you another quick story about health real quick. Please. And then you don't have to include this if you don't want to add a real bad injury on tour with my knee. Right. Went to the doctor and the doctor was like, man, we're gonna have to put screws in your knee. We're gonna, your cartilage is completely torn down and your bones are rubbing together. I could barely walk.

My mom was like, I don't accept that, right? So let's go to, this is the second time in my life. I'll tell you the first time, the second time it's happened. She's like, I found this place that does a stem cell research and this is how we got hip to the oxidation of the blood. What they would do is they would oxidize this blood, put it in your, wherever you needed it,

right for me it was my knee and it was slowly repair the knee and then regenerate the cartilage with the stem cells. My cartilage with stem cells. My cartilage regenerated in my knee, 98%, 98% regeneration. This is not a game. And this doctor told me I had to have surgery on my knee

and put screws on my knee. And this was a more holistic approach. This was a more of a Eastern, I guess, you know, medicine. Oh, kind of did it. Alternative medicine. And the other time was when I had heart problems growing up. You know, I had heart palpitations and it got so bad that I couldn't walk from one side of the room to the other side of the room without being sure it breathed my heart.

Your heart runs on electric currents. And mine was like beating like this. Weird, right? Anyway, I passed out in a shower, went to the hospital. on electric currents, and mine was like beating like this. Weird, right? Anyway, I passed out in the shower, went to the hospital. They were like, man, we're gonna have to put a... Pacemaker in your heart.

We're gonna put a pacemaker in your heart, or we can cut half of your heart open scarred and the electric currents will run through the scars. Man, I wanted to say to this doctor who is actually my doctor now in Michigan, one of the best doctors in the world, Dr. Brownstein. He gave me magnesium and a couple other things, I made sure you take this magnesium. I go back a week later or like a week and a half later to get prepped for the surgery that we couldn't afford.

They test my heart and they're like, oh my God, your heart's fine. You know, they diagnosed me with the whole disease. They diagnosed me and said, my heart, I had a disease heart. And then when I got tested again, they were like, oh, your heart's really healthy. You have a strong heart. And I couldn't believe how different. I told them, all I did was take this.

You know, I told them, I took the magnesium, and they were like, no, no way. That's impossible. But it's like, people got to open their minds up a little bit more, right? And just, I mean, all of us, I've had to open my mind up so much in my life. Yeah.

Yeah, those, but yeah. I love hearing you talk about this stuff. I think it's great. I think it's great because I think people would externally just think, oh yeah, skeptical about this kind of stuff. No. And hearing you say it and you having real experience of it, what makes your, your mom sounds like the most amazing person?

No, I'm not disanning this. You should like get in there for your her one day. Or maybe come over for dinner and talk to her. She, yeah, I'd love to. Like I'm not even joking. Everything you've just said to me, the books your mother introduced you to, the people like I'm fascinated by her story.

Bro, you know, we get lucky right with our parents. They say that we choose our parents. Yeah, yeah, for sure. I believe that. I chose the right one, for sure. Yeah, my dad is cool too. That's not good at confused. My mom is amazing.

My dad is amazing too in a lot of ways. Yeah. Just not those ways. Yeah. Yeah, different strengths. Yeah, different strengths. And different teachers for different lessons. Yeah, yeah, a lot of personality traits I picked up from him, for sure. Different strengths. Different strengths. Different strengths. Different teachers for different lessons.

Yeah. A lot of personality traits I picked up from him for sure. He's somebody who loves first. That's something that he's somebody who's open-hearted and very gentle. You know what I'm saying? He grew up in Monroe, Louisiana, where he had to run for his life and he would get beat up for being black. He's dealt with a lot of pain and trauma and one of the things that I inspired him to

do was go see therapy. And that was one of the most emotional moments for me because it was like, I know him and my uncle John as black men growing up in Louisiana and all the stuff that they've been through. My dad told me he felt like I didn't know that, he was like, I didn't talk to you about certain things because guys aren't supposed to talk about certain things. We're not supposed to open up about that. It's crazy as that sounds, right?

Because it's different now. People are more comfortable talking about mental health now. People are, there are discussions, there are people who will relate, right? But that really was a stigma. That really was something that you couldn't talk about. 100%. You know, and it messed them up.

He's still working on that right now. Totally. I mean, can you imagine holding it in for that long and not feeling you can share it and being told you'd not allow to feel that as a man and I mean, there's a lot of toxicity that comes with that. Yeah, getting beat up. Yeah, I mean, that, yeah. You know, he said he would run for us life sometimes, man.

Like to make a past his train tracks. Crazy, man. That's insane, that's intense. Yeah. You've seen that through his experience. Yeah, it's all in my blood, though, right? Yeah, yeah. It's like my grandma's not with me anymore,

but she was a female black captain in the world where two of my grandma's. That's insane. Like, that's in my blood. Yeah. You know, my mom was blood as a man. Two journeys the world where two of my grandparents. That's insane. Like that's in my blood. Yeah. You know, my mom was blood as an idiot. Two Jennies. All in me, my grandma, my other grandma had to pick cotton.

My dad's mom, she picked cotton for a job, you know? And my granddad's aunt was born a slave. That wasn't that long ago. My granddad died when I was in the seventh grade. His aunt was born a slave. So that goes to show you, it's not that far removed, right? As I have on my black and proud shirt. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

No, but I love how your experience explaining the story of your background and each person in your history. And your spot on, of course, they made you. So all of that is part of your story Yeah, just like your parents, you know, I mean and just like everything. Yeah, I'm sure your ancestors like They are really a part of us for sure. They really are for sure No, you got it and I had to accept that that they got to me and that when things don't work out

It's because they are working out better than I could even imagine and that when things don't work out, it's because they are working out better than I could even imagine. Mm-hmm. You know, when it doesn't go the way that I planned on it going, whatever it is, it's not that it's not working out, it's that it's working out better

than I can even comprehend. Yeah, if my plans worked out the way I wanted them to work out, my life would be lame compared to what it is today, you know? Yeah, it wouldn't even be you. No, 100%. I wouldn't at all. Like I think about if my plans worked out the way I wanted them to work out, my life would be nowhere near as good as it is.

No, no way. And that's the thing that you hold on to. We hold on to our little plans and we keep chasing them and we keep thinking that they're the only way. And so when a new opportunity or a new portal comes up, we're scared of walking through that portal. That portal is a greatest journey. And you've taken it, and now you're sharing through your music. I read that Rolling Stone said your latest album was like a self-help book. And I was thinking, how amazing that, you know, how amazing that your journey and study of so many powerful teachers and books and your own work and your own growth journey,

your own purification and now you're sharing it through music, do you feel now that you're at a place where your music is allowing you to share all of that even more than ever? Or tell us about that journey with music because your purpose is to change people's lives through music. Yeah, my purpose is, it's to inspire, you know, through anything I do. So, whether it's music or a book, right? Which I haven't written yet. But yeah, it's coming.

Been thinking about it. You have to. Yeah, it's something that I wanted to just look back on my life and be like, I did all I could in a moment when People not just like me, but just people who ever needed it You know at least I said it. It's a lot of music out there. Yeah, it is a lot of music out there There's a lot of music that sounds the same out there. There's a lot of music that sounds different too Yeah, because it's just tons and tons and tons of music So I have to represent my mindset at least at that point in my life.

And I try to do that with all my albums, but on top of that, I don't want to sound like I'm preaching. I don't want to sound like, true. I'm talking down, or, you know, I want to sound like I'm talking to someone. So I do have records that are fun. Yeah. Nobody's perfect.

You know what I mean? Yeah, I mean, none of us. None of us. None of us. Yeah, so one of the things that I realized is that, okay, I got to make sure I have the balance of having fun in my music. Yeah. You know? That's the, it's like a picture, right?

It's like, you can, you can like, okay, this one, I'm going to really paint what I'm going through right now. This one, I'm just going to completely talk about last night when I got drunk, you know what I mean? It's like, it's just, it comes from all different inspirations. I love that, yeah, I found that even and you're reading Think Like A Monk right now, but when I was writing that, I wanted to share my weakest points as a monk.

So I don't, there's not many examples in there where I share the best days. I share all my worst days. I share my worst meditation. I share my biggest criticism that I had of people around me. I share my worst train journey. My, like in the book, I was like,

I wanna share the worst days. Wow. Because the big days or the easy days to share when like I felt enlightened and I, you know, when I had a moment, like those are easy to share. Right I felt enlightened and I, you know, when I had a moment, like those are easy to share. Right. But to share, like, you know what,

I used to wake up and I had waking up before him, like to share that felt like the right thing to share because of what you're saying. We all have bad days, none of us are perfect and have it all figured out. And people relate to that, right? Yeah, and also you, like, I feel like that's just the truth that we need to hear.

Because like I was swinging a friend yesterday and he was saying, you know, I feel scared about my future and my financial future and this and that and whatever it was. And I was like, dude, I really, like everyone feels like that. Like there's no one.

And as soon as you hear that, you go, oh, okay, it's okay. When you hear that someone else feels that way, I know when people are gonna listen to this, they're gonna go, bitch, you want to feel nervous, wrapping? Yeah, right. When you hear that, that's, oh, okay, it's okay to feel nervous and still do something.

Yeah. I think a lot of people feel they have to feel confident to do something. Yeah. When actually most of us do things one when nervous. Yeah. And you know, I broke up. I wake up still totally messed up sometimes.

Yeah. I feel there are times where, you know, I do feel very like down and depraved my vibration is low, but I'm able to approach it and react to it differently. Yeah. And I'm able to not let it stick on me. Yeah. You know, one of the things that meditation does for me, it's like, it's like when you work out

or like do something like going to hike or something and you take that shower. Yeah. And you just like are clean. Yes. That's what meditation does for me. It energetically literally just cleans me. And I feel like I'm ready.

It's like having a full charged phone. It's like I'm ready for everything. Now I'm charged up. And uh... Bathing you soul. Yeah. And people have a lot of misconceptions about meditation. You have to understand that there's no wrong way to meditate. There's no wrong way. It's not wrong. Even if your mind races and you get better at bringing it back to your center, if you get better on focusing on your breathing, right, you don't, you can't do it and think you're doing it wrong because there is no wrong way to do it. You're going to get into a groove. The more you do it, that works for you because it's for you. It's not for everyone else. This isn't like

something you get great. It's not like a math test. Meditation is a personal moment that you share with yourself, and that brings you in the moment. And so your mind does race, right? You think about things, you make visualized things, and but you come back to the moment. So meditation for me, that's what it is. There's no wrong way of doing it. I just want to put that out there. there's no wrong way of doing it. I just want to put that out there.

There's no wrong way of doing it. I love that you are an ambassador for meditation. It's awesome seeing you talk about in such a genuine way. And I love what you just said that meditation is not a math test. I mean, that is the problem with the conditioning, that everything's a test. Everything's right or wrong. Everything's, you know, and so right, that you just have to let go of that. When I'm sharing

meditation with people, often I find that especially if the musicians, they want to get the music right, or the sound right. It's free of that. Meditation is, I'm tone deaf and I can't sing the same my life. I love music, but I can't sing the same my life. But it's, meditation's beyond that. Like it's beyond the mental, verbal capacities that we have, but. It is, and that's one of the things I do, write stuff down. Since 2019, I've also been like,

let me do one thing every year that's gonna change my life. Ooh. So that's, you know, that's do one thing every year that's gonna change my life. Ooh. So that's, you know, that's just one of the things I'm doing. I love it, man. I'm feeling, first of all, I'm feeling very grateful and humbled for the generous time you've given me today. Yeah, I'm feeling, I'm feeling, I'm feeling totally, I've learned so much and I feel so inspired

just sitting here listening to you speak. And we end every one of these episodes with a fast five So this is final five questions where you have to answer it with one word to one sentence maximum Catch it. So it's it's tight and you're dropping the buzz already So it's easy. It's easy for you. All right. Yeah, so the first for you is, what's the best advice you've ever received? Experience. It's the best advice I've ever received is experience. That's a great answer.

We never had that before. I loved that. Okay, what's the worst advice you've ever received? You know what, you know what, Jay? Yeah. It's like, I block it out. Yeah, you don't even remember it. I don't hold on to it.

Yeah. You know, I got a terrible advice. My so many times, I can't even remember block it out. Yeah, you don't even remember it. I don't hold onto it. Yeah. You know, I got a terrible advice. My so many times, I can't even remember those. I love that. That's a great onto them. Yeah. We're good with that. Okay. Question number three, what's something that you know to be true, but you feel other people

might disagree with you on or they're not there. Like, they don't fully get it. Yeah. I can make a list. Meditation. Yeah. You mentioned post life. Ancestors.

Yeah. Of guiding you, past life, blocks, removing blocks. That's a lot. Yeah, that's a lot. Yeah. Question number four, what's the biggest lesson you learned in the last 12 months?

You can't kill your ego. Tell me more about that. That's something we should talk about. People always talk about ego death and you can't kill it. Why would you want to kill a part of yourself anyway? You have to just know how to work with it and how to treat it. People always say your ego is the most childish part of you.

But then I also hear that children are the most spiritual beings because they have no restrictions that have been set on their nerves, just purely right from the source, right? Yeah. So there has to be a connection between the two. And I think your ego is an unftered. Part of you that is easily

affected and very emotional, very sensitive. And it's something you should embrace instead of trying to get rid of it, lock it in a room, you embrace it and recognize it for what it is. And when you do it and when you nurture it in that way, I think it won't be as a dramatic of a outlash and as damaging to you. If that makes any sense. That makes sense to me. Sometimes when I was listening to you, what I was thinking about was sometimes your ego just needs a big hug. When you just embrace it. That's what I'm saying. And I don't feel ego from you today, you know, from the moment you walked in to meeting

my team. And you know, it's like, you know, I don't feel a sense of arrogance or provider in your presence at all. Thank you. Which, which just shows that you've just embraced it, you know, you get it there. Yeah. And I like that. That's what came to my mind when you were speaking. And also when you took my children, I was thinking, you know, we want to become more childlike and not childish. And I think that's the, you know, what you were saying there,

like being childlike is great. Like, childlike is like fresh, new, but being childish is like tantrums and, you know, being, you know. Yeah, being childlike is like not putting any ceilings on yourself, you know? Like one of the things that we do is grown up, it's just like, oh, that sounds a little crazy, right? When you were a kid, you mean, I wanna be an astronaut.

Yeah, I'm gonna climb that tree. I'm gonna, yeah. I wanna do this, you know, I wanna be, and it's like, they do it to their capacity, but that's something we lose when we grow up. So, childish versus child-like, that's similar to like, selfish and self-care. And I used to get those confused. You know, and that's one of the reasons why I felt like I probably stayed. So I burnt myself out

as far as like trying to do too much is because I thought that it was selfish of me to be like, oh, I need to take time for myself. Yeah. You know, instead of doing this work, I need to do, I'm going to get a massage and I thought that was selfish to me, but that's not selfish. That's self-care. That's self-love. And you got to know the difference between the two. You know, selfish is when it affects the people you love or people around you are certain people in a negative way, right? You're doing something for a wrong reason, but when you're just taking care of yourself to be better for those people, then that's self-care. That's such a great definition. And I just hope everyone who's listening and watching this, I hope you're taking notes,

because that differentiation can actually change your life. Because when you give up yourself, care, and the short term, to think you're're being selfless, then in the long term, you end up having to be selfish because it pushes you back that way. So you're, you're spot on that. We have, and I can relate to that so much because there was a time in my life where I was just extending myself to others and I used to think that getting a massage, eating on time. Right. All of that stuff was bad, and now it's like I realize, well, I can't give myself,

or I'm giving people the worst leftovers of myself when I haven't taken care of myself. I don't wanna give the people I love my leftovers, but that's what I'm giving them, because I drain myself. So I love that differentiation. Fifth of final question is, if you could create a law

that everyone in the world had to follow, what would it be? Not to judge, because everyone has an opinion, right? And that's fine. But we are all humans. We judge each other. It brings us down and it traps us, right? And what you put out there is just gonna come right back to you. You know, it's like a double-edged sword.

So you're judging somebody like, you messed up, you wrong. This is not good. What you, what are you doing? Like this is not good. But that's coming right back to you. Whether you know it or not, it could be different ways, right?

But to me, you can have an opinion, right? And that's a thin line too, between an opinion, right? And that's a thin line too between an opinion and judging. But a judging is when you go out your way to to make somebody feel a certain way. And that's something that's become so accustomed to our society as we judge each other. And really, I don't even know if we have the right to judge each other.

We're all made in the image of God, right? And I don't know if judging each other is productive, necessarily. You know, I just don't think it's productive. I think that it's time that you could have spent on something else. And if you don't like something that's different, you don't have to comment on it. You don't have to judge it.

You could just be like, cool, like, yeah. You know, and put the energy on something you like. You know, let it go. Or I think when you bring somebody down though, you're bringing them down, but you can't bring anything down without going down yourself. It doesn't even make any sense.

Absolutely. Absolutely. Everyone, big shawns. You're like, thank you for doing this, man. Yeah, I can't wait to come back. We gotta do like a part two, right? I know, I mean, I can carry on talking. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no on talking. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, we can save it for another time. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. No, no, this has been amazing, man. Like

just hearing you share your heart and your genuine purpose with us today. Like, I've loved every pit of it. It's been so inspiring. Thank you, man. I love the two, you know, I've learned so much. And I mean that, I mean that from the bottom of my heart, and I recommend that everyone goes and listens to this again and takes notes, write stuff down because there are so many gems in what you shared that can be truly powerful for people at different stages of their life.

Because you just walked us through the heroes' journey. Yeah. And your journey, of course, still continues as you know. Of course. But there's so many parts of that. And and your journey, of course, still continues as you know, but there's so many parts of that. And I want to I want to ask you though, is there something you wanted to share today that you feel like haven't let you share or that you haven't had an opportunity to get through because I want to get there. I don't want to. If there's something on your mind that you're like, Oh, I feel like I need to share this with people. Well, I do want

to just share that I go through terrible days, I go through dark moments, I go through great days, I have great moments. You know, it's not like I figured life out. You know, I don't think anyone on this earth has ever figured life out all the way. And I don't think it's for us to figure out, you know, maybe there are other purposes for it, but I just wanna put that out there and say that, you know, you're not alone, like whoever, you know, whoever needs to hear that, like you're just, you're not alone. Jay Shetty got you, I got, like, we're all in this together.

And, but you know, I just wanna end on that and just say that, thank you guys for listening to anybody who needed to hear this, like, I needed to hear myself. Everything I said is because it was on my heart that needed to be expressed for you and for myself and for whatever other reason. So thank you.

That is a beautiful note to end on. And a thousand percent I'm in for a part two. Yeah, gotta do a part note and a thousand percent I'm in for a part two. Yeah I gotta do a part two. Yeah I'm all in for a part two. I could talk to people like two, three hours and I could listen to that voice. I listened to that voice for hours. You know it's like it's uh but honestly like what you just said is is so perfect and exactly what we all need to hear and I don't think you shared your story with any sort of perfection or with any projection of you having it figured out I could hear that since CSC, her inside of you in every step.

Yeah, yeah. I think you shared it beautifully, man. Thank you so much. No, thank you. Thanks for having me. Thank you, man. This was beautiful. This was amazing.

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