On Purpose with Jay Shetty - Dr. Oz: On How To Create Healthier Habits and Change Your Relationship With Food

Episode Date: July 1, 2019

In this episode of On Purpose, I sat down with Dr. Oz to discuss how to automate your life and create an environment that feeds what you’re good at and protects you from what you’re not good at. If you struggle with self-control, Dr. Oz shares practical tips you can apply to improve your relationship with food long term. We also dove into relationships and how important it is to love someone for who they already are instead of who you want them to be. This is a great episode with so many practical tips to help you achieve a happier and healthier lifestyle.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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That's why when couples marry, the wife will generally lose some health because she takes better care of herself in general than he does. And his bad habits rub off on her. We want to flip that. Hello everyone. Welcome back to On Purpose. I'm so excited for this episode.

I know that you are focused on growing your purpose, growing your passion, and improving your life, work, and love every single day and every single week here with me. And I'm always trying to find guests that I believe can truly help you transform that. Today's guest is someone that I've admired for a very, very long time, been a follower and fan of his work for a long time as well. So I'm so excited to have this opportunity to sit down with him here in New York City and ask him about his thoughts, his background, and his story, and of course, his purpose. He doesn't really need an introduction.

He's a multiple New York Times best-selling author. He has an incredible show on TV. He's none other than Dr. Oz. Dr. Oz, thank you so much for this opportunity. It's a great pleasure to meet you, Jay. Yeah, it's a pleasure to be with you. Thank you for inviting us into your space and allowing us to gate crash. We fixed the fung shway for you.

I got the whole studio back. This is the back part of the studio. It's okay, but it's working. It works for us. It works for us. Like I said to you just before we started, I've been a long-term fan and admire of your work. I think it's incredible what you've done.

And so again, I'm very grateful for this opportunity. But I want to start by helping my audience just learn about you as a whole. I just find people's stories fascinating. And I think as people grow and continue to have incredible careers, people who find out about them later on don't get to see that side of it.

And so I'd love to go back to seven years old when you actually decided you want to be a doctor, which seems very, very early. What's spot led in your life? So the name Mehmet is Turkish. Last name, Oz, is my real last name. It has two dots over it in Turkish. My parents were immigrants to this country. And my father is a physician, just passed actually 93 years of age. And when I was seven years of age, we had moved to a town with me in Delaware. We were foreigners.

I mean, didn't understand the culture. I didn't know some English words, even though I was speaking English with all my friends in school. And as an outsider, if I dabble, I should have passed along things to me that he thought might be helpful. As I grew up, we were in an ice cream shop.

I'll never forget, it's called Patterson's Ice Cream. It's the best vanilla fudge. So I went here for my ice cream. And there's a kid in front of me who's about 10 years of age. And this young man, we just winded his own business trying to get his ice cream. And my dad asked the way he wanted to be when he grew up.

And the kid looked back and he said, I don't know, I'm 10 years old. I haven't thought about it. It makes sense. But that makes me very rational. I thought it was a pretty good answer. Kid Boozzi, my dad turned to me and said, I never want every ever hear you give an answer like that. And I said, why? And he said, because if you don't know what you're aiming for, you can't

possibly head in that direction. This gets back to the very fundamental meaning of the word sin. What's a sin? Sin is a bow and arrow term. Are you pull your bow back and you fire the arrow? If you don't hit the target, that's a sin. Well, if you don't hit the target that's a sin? Well, if you don't know what targets you're aiming for, how can you possibly hit it? So my dad said, I don't care if you change your mind 50 times. Just have a goal. Tell me what you want to do. And then we'll keep talking about it. You're only seven. You can change it. But you got to have that in your mind right now. So I said, I love going to the hospital with you. I'll be a doctor. I never changed my mind.

And I'm blessed because there's not a lot of things I could have done. And the field that I've selected, heart surgery is perfectly designed for my personality. I mean, I deal. I couldn't be a hematologist or pathologist. I need to be in there in the battle. I need to have immediate feedback and gratification. If my operation doesn't go well, I can tell right then because the beep, beep, becomes beep. All these changes begin to happen. You've spoken about heartbeat and ecages in your work. So, you know, the metaphor will come back later in this podcast.

But for me, as a heart surgeon, I recognize early on that there were aspects of what I was good at. That would make me excel at heart surgery and there are things that I was bad at. That would hurt me and hold me back in other fields. And so, although I told my dad I'll be a doctor at 7, the nuances of it evolved over my life. But it allowed me to begin to head in a direction. And that's an important message for a lot of your listeners. You've been this is a great job getting people to think bigger, but also think by stepping back from their perception of what life isn't and what

they're destined to be become. And if you can have a bigger vision for yourself, then you'll be able to head that direction. And one of the biggest messages I always have by own kids and folks that try to mentor is you don't want me to have a bigger vision for you than you. If my thoughts about how big you can be are greater than your thoughts for you can be, that's not a good match. Right. You're underserving yourself.

Absolutely. Listening to you now, you have such a high level of self awareness. Like when you're speaking about why being a doctor was right for you, it's so clear and it's so specific to you. I've heard many people tell me why they want to be doctors and often you will see patterns or you'll hear broad answers Whereas when I hear from you, there's so much Specificity tell me about when was that time after you said it, you know at seven years old at that early age

When was that time where you started to get the awareness to start noticing what was needed to become a doctor Specifically in that field and then that you had those skills. What was it that revealed that to you? It wasn't until I was in college. I had gone to a great school. I had learned a lot of the fundamentals that I needed to have to succeed in life and I went to college and I was playing football and I was beginning to understand what excelling at any adventure would require. And I began to study my own body and realized there were subtleties about my body that I'd never appreciated that I had taken for granted. By the way, most of you listening

to your probably is just where I wasn't, I'm not perfect either, but I began to get a little more proficient. And so as I began to appreciate this spectacular wonders of the human body and the fact that I could get my body to certain things I didn't otherwise expect, I began to appreciate that I could actually do this as a career. I like telling people things about their body. It gave me joy to look in someone's eyes, to have them know that I was there for them,

and I could give them insight, they could change their basic assumption of the world around them. I'll give you one example right now. Please. And just stay away from illness, right? Because I could try to diagnose blood pressure, but it's hard to get this telescope as far. Sure. Everyone put their hands out in front of them if you're not driving and look at your third digit and your fourth digit. Your ring finger versus the middle finger, right?

And then look at the index finger. You got those three fingers there, right? Okay, which is longer? The index finger or the ring finger? The ring finger for me. All right. So people who have a ring finger longer than the index finger

had testosterone exposure in utero. They're. So, people who have a ring finger longer than the index finger had testosterone exposure in utero. They're usually men, but not always. Women will usually have a index finger, the pointer, longer than the ring finger, because they weren't exposed to testosterone when they were in utero. Yes. Yes. That's true, right?

Now, here's something that's been true your entire life, right? It's so obvious in retrospect that you would think you would have already known it, but you didn't. There are literally hundreds of examples like that. That if you appreciate them, they will be able to help you as guideposts you get through life.

That's just a parlor trick I just gave you. But this is pretty profound ideas. Like, are you a super taste or not? That's genetically determined by how well you taste certain foods. People who are superasteers are very sensitive to bitter to taste like broccoli and leafy grains. They don't like vegetables.

So it's not because you're a bad person. You don't like vegetables. Literally your taste buds don't want you to like those vegetables and kids to have more taste buds when they're young and more of these taste buds. So they don't like vegetables. And there's a survival benefit of that because in the wilds of 10,000 years ago, if you're wandering around eating bitter things, well poisonous things are bitter. Not too long ago, in the heart of the Amazon rainforest, this explorer stumbled upon something that would change his life.

I saw it and I saw, oh wow, this is a very unusual situation. It was cacao, the tree that gives us chocolate. But this cacao was unlike anything experts had seen, or tasted. I've never wanted us to have a gun fight. I mean, you saw this tax of cash in our office. Chocolate sort of forms this vortex, it sucks you in. It's like I can be the queen of wild chocolate. We're all lost.

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So you'd naturally gravitate to sweet things, right? Which is why kids are taught that. Then they naturally wanted anyway. So it works. But if you don't mature your taste buds, if you infantilize them with fast food and junk food, then they never grow up to become real taste buds, they no longer going to help you choose the foods naturally that you would want. In the Indian culture, you're exposed to America so early in life, it becomes part of your

natural desire to enjoy food. You put it on making curry food, right? Turns out that America has a remarkable and powerful effect. I'm reducing amyloid plaque in the brain, which might explain why there's less Alzheimer's than indeed than we would expect. Now, all these things are ways, long ways of me telling you that it's not just luck that you are the way you are. And because you can understand the way you are better than you thought you could, you can hack it to make it easier to do the right thing.

And how do you start that transformation then? So now that you're aware that actually my taste buds are naturally putting me towards these sweet foods, but they may not end up in the best place for me. How do we start molding and transforming our taste buds, for example, create an environment that feeds what you're good at and protects you from what you're not good at, automate your life. I love chocolate. I mean, I really, I'm glad you brought that option. I have a massive sweet chocolate. It's just something about, I don't like cupcakes, but I like chocolate, real chocolate, not, you know, cocoa, that's 30% dark chocolate.

And you put that on nuts. I'm a Turk. It's all either nuts. I just, I mean, 90% of the hazel nuts in the world are made in Turkey. So you just can't get's all either nuts. I just use I mean 90% of the hazel nuts in the world are made in Turkey. Yes. So you just can't get away from this stuff. Yeah. And I know if I put chocolate covered nuts around me, I will finish the whole bowl. I just don't have the ability to stop. So I just make sure I'm never around chocolate covered nuts and balls. I'll eat one or two at a time. I don't deprive myself. I eat the chocolate by itself and nuts by themselves, but not together. Ever. That's a simple example, but there are many others that you could just think about in your own life.

There are a lot of folks who very appropriately medicate with food because it turns out carbohydrates, simple carbs, especially, are incredibly soothing to the brain. They hit their brain like crack cocaine. So if you are prone to that addictive response, you have to be careful about that. So if you get home from work and you've had a fight with your boss or with your spouse or the kids weren't respectful and the traffic was bad and you walk and then you're a little down. And the first thing you see when you open the fridge is a cheesecake. You go to grab that cheesecake because you're disciplined and cut a very thin sliver up. I mean, so thin you can see through it. It's a microthic,

right? Yeah. It's like, you know, a microf, fish. And you cut that little thing, you put it in your mouth. It tastes so good. And then you realize you didn't cut the cake straight. So, straight then I take another sliver, another bigger sliver, and then it's wedge. And by the time you're done, you finish the whole thing off. I pass that whole thing over here, mama, and you're done. And what you've done unconsciously is feeding to your weakness. But if there's no stuff that you're prone to eat in your fridge, you'll eat what you get. That's why I was told folks.

The crisper is actually this service to you. You hide the veggies in the crisper, you don't see them. Instead, you see the soft drink and leftovers and other stuff at eye level. At eye level in your fridge, put foods that you know are good for you that you also like. In fact, that's the biggest message. Only eat foods that you adore that happen to be good for you. Because it's like eating stuff anyway. And then you slowly start to get into a habit. If you're going to drink alcohol and you know you're going to drink alcohol and you get home, the best alcohol probably is tequila because it's got a little sweetness to it from the agave anyway. So you don't have to add anything to it. You can drink it straight up, put some lemon in it. So serving is 66 calories and it's one ounce, right? So if I, if I, so I like, you know, if I'm going to have, ever have a drink, that's

what I generally will have. It's that I should try put it in my freezer at eye level. I open the freezer, I don't see ice cream, but I also like it. I'll see the agave, and I'll drink that, and then I'll have a little bit and I'm done. And so I haven't undermined myself with something that I know will cause a problem for me in the future. Now, if you're listening, you have your own limitations, your own strengths, feed the limit, the strengths and hinder the limitations, starve them. I love how practical that is, especially eye level, because we all know at grocery stores and superstores, the stuff at eye level is the stuff that we all want to buy and is necessarily

bad for us, but we can change what's at eye level in our home. And they're paying for to get that. Yes, exactly. Exactly. Which again, is a good business. I don to get that. Yes, exactly. Exactly. Which again, is good business. I don't blame them. Oh, 100%. Not that you know, I trust it appropriately.

Yeah, absolutely. That's such great advice. I know that for a fact that it's why many bars in hotels are so dangerous. Because many bars or another, I usually take my own food with me. Yes, me too. Yeah, I travel with a bag of,

I've bagging that's in my briefcase right now. I never leave home without it. I think everyone ought to have nuts in their pockets or mail in women by the way. I soak my nuts. I like to put them in a little water, they germinate and I cart them around. And that way I'm not foraging through

bending machines looking for food. I get simple little things, hacks like that, end up making your life a little simpler because I mean, they make them have simple but it's more straightforward. Because what you really want to do is focus your effort. You're too chi of the energy decisions that you have to use and consume have to be focus

on things that matter. So I don't want to rediscover what breakfast I want every day. I'm going to have Greek yogurt and blueberries most days or a little oatmeal. What are I mean, there's all things that, but there are two or three options, eggs, you know, that's it. I'm not gonna go out there wasting all my time in the morning trying to find out what's eat for breakfast. I think the smart thing to do is to save your energy-making prowess. Absolutely.

For the ideas that you absolutely have to do there, your best interest, but also only you can do. Absolutely. And that way, by the time you get to the middle of the afternoon, you have it exhausted all that energy making, worth this decisions. And then you don't fall prey to the afternoon to lemma that many have, they do, they be wiching hour. Because by time it's four or five in the afternoon, you're so exhausted, your brain is that you have to supercharge it with carbs. That's why people crave foods that aren't good for them at four or five in the afternoon.

That's such a good point. And we will know that decision fatigue is so real when we're wasting our energy on making these smaller insignificant decisions. I've been having the same thing for breakfast and same thing for lunch for the last 10, 15 years of my life. So proud of you, and it's made that it's made my life so much easier. No, it's one of those things that you do because it just gives you sanity and space to use your creative energy.

I oatmeal every single morning. And I usually have avocado on toast for lunch. That's usually my ideal lunch. That's why you look the way you look and then you can you know pull around for dinner and do whatever you want. Yeah, I'm a bit more experimented to it dinner. Usually it's Indian. I'm very fortunate that my wife's an incredible cook. So I get spoilt every night with something good for me. But no, I love that. and I think so many of us But so much pressure on ourselves to have to be creative about our meals every single day And I'm sure what's that doing is it also confusing our system like if you always taking different things I've always had that intuitive sense that I'm actually confusing my own body because I'm just giving it something new every day

Every morning. I think you do confuse your body at times But even more importantly your body knows what works for it and what doesn't. And it tells you that in subtle ways, and then more loudly says it, and then shouts in your ear as you get ill from not paying attention. So most of us will naturally gravitate towards the kinds of foods that are in our best interest. So if you don't meal every morning, there's a pretty good chance that you don't have a problem without meal, because you wouldn't do it anymore. Now, there's some folks listening who haven't paid attention, so you're exempted from this comment.

So please pay attention. But if you get up in the morning and you're bloated, your eyes are swollen shut, you feel like you've got a cough, you're having a food allergy oftentimes or an allergy to something. So listen to your body. But assuming you get up, you feel rested and energized, then what you did the day before worked for you, you'll naturally want to reproduce that. And I know that I have sensitive intestinal systems around certain things. I can't eat super spicy food. I mean, too. And my wife loves it. She's also a chef. That was one of our, you know, one of the newer times best selling books was her book. I forgot that one. But the, and she'll, she likes spicy foods. And I see her mouth burning up. And I know when I eat spicy foods, my bottom hurts when I go to

the bathroom. I mean, the entire intestinal system is ravaged. So I know when I eat spicy foods, my bottom hurts when I go to the bathroom. I mean, the entire intestinal system is ravaged. So I've learned not to do that. It's always, it's not fun the first time or anytime it happens. Yeah, listen to our buddies. Everyone who's listening and watching right now, there are so many incredible insights in this podcast already.

I hope you're taking notes. And if you're driving in your contact notes, and if you're walking your dog in your contact notes, then please, please, just make sure you come back to this episode. There are so many great nuggets that Dr. Roses is already sharing with us. Thank you so much for making it so practical and applicable for my audience. You made a point a few moments ago where you were talking about how when you're talking about people with their visions and their goals, you're always

wanting them to expand them further. You were saying that if I'm speaking to someone and my goal for them is bigger than theirs, then they need to work on that. How have you seen that? Like obviously you spent a lot of time between Turkey and the US when you were growing up. How were you able to expand your vision and how can people who are listening today also do that? Because I don't know how about yourself and I'd love to know when I started, I never knew how big things could scale. And I'm not sure when you started as a doctor, whether you believed you'd have this incredible TV show

and selling over 40 million books, like did you have that vision or was that something that gradually grew as time went on? None of the things you say were on my vision board ever. Exactly, that's the idea. And I didn't do any of the things that I did for that vision. Yes. I had much more measured desires,

but they were desires that would address the deep urging longing inside me that I felt that while I was on this planet having this experience, if I hadn't done these things, shame on me. So I began pursuing a lot of things I do with that measured goal. And my wife, who's actually had a much better pulse on what I should be doing. And I'm what America's feeling in needs than I've ever had, was the one who kept nudging me. And she was the one who conspired with Oprah, actually.

Because at least I helped, my wife had, so I'm practicing hard surgery and minding my own business. You're in New York City, I'm at New York Presbyterian. So sometimes the news agency would call and say, I break me story, someone's having a hard surgery, what do you have to comment, or maybe you did the heart surgery because I had done operating so much famous people.

So I ended up becoming part of the news, but it was around the edges. So that wasn't, I didn't do the heart surgery to be the reason. Be right news, yeah, of course. So my wife, one day said, you're coming home every day and you're moaning about the fact that people are having heart surgery

who didn't need it. If they just take in a few proactive steps on their own, they could have avoided the whole thing. Instead of complaining about it, let's fix the problem. Let's make a show that teaches people what you guys know. And this is the accusation she launched. It means she was right. She says, the reason America doesn't have the message about health is because you haven't given it to them. So, but that in mind, I started working with her. We crafted a show that was the aired on Discovery Channel. My first guest was Oprah and they said Oprah bonded.

They began talking about things that we could do in a bigger way. No, of course, Oprah had the biggest platform of all. So then she loves to teach. People don't always give her the credit shoes are there, but that's primarily what she wanted to do. Whether it's race relations or transgender issues, LGBT issues, or if it's spirituality or health. In fact, the word doctor means Dr. Array, right? Teacher. The word itself means teacher. So I would go on a show, you know, 60, 70 times before it works stuff together, and Lisa and Oprah began planning out ways we

could do it differently and brand it better and get American believe they could do it. That is our biggest enemy. Your biggest enemy, J, is nihilism. People don't think they can do it. And we're both here to say, yes, you can. Yes. Absolutely. Only you are holding yourself back. And what you want to achieve that your decision, but what you, but you can do it. So we end talking more and more publicly about the possibilities of health, and that led me into a place where I could talk to folks in the public areas. In fact, I started on radio because I would host Oprah's radio show. I do her show, and then I go off and do the radio studio and do that. And that just taught me a lot about how

to talk to people about something that matters. And I recognized at that point. And actually, I remember the moment that it happened. I was at that point. And actually, I remember the moment that it happened. I was with Oprah and she said, it's not happened yet. And I said, what? I said, you know, the people know. And I said, no, what? So do they see you on the street and know who you are and know what you're doing? And it had just started. Because most of us are comfortable and in humidity, right? You're walking down the street. No one knows what you're doing. Thankfully, we behave ourselves, but you know, you don't have to But at a certain point people begin knowing who you are

They think they want to go with you. They can't quite place you and eventually becomes a bit more powerful of a link to what you do for a living And she said when you have that use it for good It's not about self-aggrandizement It's really about using that power of the platform, the bully pulpit, the make a phone that you have, and telling a story, a sharing wisdom was what you're doing that allows people to find themselves in their own life story. Because listen, we all are in a story. Yes. And if you don't know what story you're in, that's a problem. You don't want to be in someone else's story because if you're in someone else's story,

you're a bit player and they're in, because they're not going to make you the story,'re in, that's a problem. You don't want to be in someone else's story, because if you're in someone else's story, you're a bit player and they're, and they're not gonna make you the story, their story, right? So don't be your spouse's story person. You're just a co-star there, right? And if you're not sure what your story is about, where you might be headed in the wrong direction. So figure out what your story is, small as big as it is, and then show up in that story, because you're the star of it, because only you can be the star of it. And that was part of the message we started to go out with on the show. And I think what resonated the most was people's interest in their health, I mean, it's selfish in a way because you want to be healthy and it's in your best interest. But it's very core. If you can't take charge of your own health, if you can't, if you cannot control what's going on inside your body,

how can you change the world outside of it? Absolutely. And the reason you should care about your body is because it's the first step of everything else that you have to do. If you're starting with diabetes and high blood pressure and your cholesterol is whacking, your depressed, cause you've got to continue some inflammatory problems.

You can't remember anything cause you're heading towards dementia because everything else in your body is in disarray. Well, how are you gonna contribute to the planet? Right, you're a paris that I give you the body, you're blessed to have, you're most vital in inheritance so you can muck it up. So, now that you realize how sacred you are,

if you truly appreciate that, take your managers, you can do all the other things and the challenge I always give to my audience is think about someone you really adore and really love. It's just absolutely, or spectacularly, faithful about. If they were putting in their body, what you're putting in your body, what would you tell them? Because whatever that is, tell that to yourself. Conquer your New Year's resolution to be more productive with the Before Breakfast Podcast

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Listen on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. That is great advice. I love that. Tell that to yourself. When we treat people we love or a fund over affectionate towards with so much more care and attention that we do ourselves. And you reminded me of this was one of Arnold Schwarzenegger's first ever documentaries. It was called Pumping Iron. I've seen it. I know the guy, I know the guy who produced it butler. Oh, no way.

Okay. I've only ever seen it when I was growing up, but I remember there's one line in there that stuck with me. And in that, he said, the reason why fitness goals were so important to him and his health and his physique were so important to him is because he believed that was something you could never cheat. Right, you could never cheat your own body. If you're eating badly, you're going to see the result. You can't cheat it.

Like you can cheat, you can lie to yourself in your mind, but your body's not gonna lie to you. What a beautiful insight from a very big man. Absolutely. And he said it in that, I think it was like 1970 or something. It must have even way before I was born, but I remember watching that, but it was fascinating. I tell me about this belief, Prince, when I'd love to hear it from your perspective, because we hear about it so much, but I'd love to hear it from your medical background. And this is us diving into purpose a bit more now as well.

But where have you had a failed belief that you've had to rewire and then see in the benefits of having new belief systems in your own life? Where have you seen that in a big way, a failed belief that you had to transform or upgrade? A good example, I think, in my life, has been my interaction with patients. So, I've got a couple couple strikes. I'm a doctor. So, you know, sometimes, you know, I think I know everything. I'm a surgeon, which is basically controlled arrogance. Right, because if you don't want to have a tepid surgeon in there, dilly-dallying around, you got to take a knife and cut somebody.

So you have to have an unbelievable confidence that that's the right thing to do. And I'm a guy, which is a third strike, okay, because we've been explained for a reason, right? Because we think we got it all worked out, don't ask directions, all that stuff. So you said a male doctor surgeon into a room and talk to a patient, we're gonna tell you the answer.

And then expect that you got it and move on, because I know you're not sure, I heard me tell you the answer, you'll act accordingly. And that doesn't happen. Doesn't happen in the hospital. Doesn't happen in real life. Doesn't happen in schools and relationships or anything else. We that we really care about. People do not change based on what they know. They change based on what they feel. You can't fix a feeling until you hear it. So the failed belief of my part was I could cut corners, be fast about it, tell

my kids the answer, bark something to my wife, tell the patient what to do, stop smoking. Well, I mean, please, I mean, if they was that easy, they would have done it. They know it's not good for them. They don't need to tell them it's bad for them. Quite the opposite, they feel guilty when you remind them that they're incompetent and couldn't stop smoking, and then to deal with their, their failing and the self-flagulation, they go out and smoke to relax. So if you're really going to get people to change, and this gets back into the fundamental psychology change, which is, it's not the psychology of Freud, which is about how messed up you are because of your parents.

It's not about the beautiful, wonderful work that's been done in the mid-part of the last century that helped establish the fundamentals of why we think the way we think, and why archetypes are important to us, and why faith is ultimately so essential to our well-being. Faith in anything, ourselves, something bigger than us, and all the things to go along with that. But the psychology of change is about the very seemingly pedestrian issue of how you get people to be different than they they were gonna do. But it drives all politics. It drives a lot of decisions that are being made today, all marketing is based on this.

But it is also the main reason we have conflict in our relationships, because men marry the woman exactly they want, just the way they want her, and then she wants to change. And women marry the man they think he can become, and he won't change. Right? Yes.

And then women, for the moment you're married, you're moving apart from each other. Yeah. And you've got to find ways of reconnecting. After the chemical handcuffs come off, which is about seven years, that's about enough time to bear a couple of children and get them to an age where they could actually chip in a little bit and not run off the cliff. Right? But at seven years, chemical handcuffs fall off the oct toast and don't mean serotonin, they go away.

And now you actually are left with who you really are. And if you can't figure it out, because you don't understand the emotions drive it. It seems self-evident, but think about how you communicate with each other. So I'm gonna tell someone to stop smoking. I don't tell them they're stupid for smoking. I tell them, do you care for yourself as much as the people in this room who brought

you here, care for you? If you really loved yourself, you would stop. Even more importantly, if you love the people who are around you, you'll stop, you'll be there for them. Who's going to walk your daughter down the aisle? Who's going to keep your wife company when she gets frail because she's going to need you? So, now, with that mindset, here are a couple of tactics that might work.

Well, still give it the tool. Yes, sure. But you'll use them now with that mindset here are a couple tactics that might work. Well, still give it the tool. Yes, sure. But you'll use them now with a bit of passion. And that is the fundamental way we get people to adjust their lives. And when we try to ignore that, that's why politics is so fascinating. Because people emotionally already know the answer, their answer. It may not be your answer, but it's their answer. Then the facts are just they're defended.

That's why people have these X-SIM set of facts and have opposite answers, because I can manipulate facts. It's a classic line. There's statisticians, dam statisticians, and liars. Right? Actually, I said it wrong. Sorry, I got it wrong.

It's liars, I'm not completely mopping that. That's fine, say it again. It's liars, they're re-edited. I don't have to add it to give it, we all make mistakes. It's liars, dam liars, and statisticians. Right. Right.

And because the statisticians are ultimately not that they want to do it, but they can manipulate anything to say anything. And if you don't deal with the underlying emotions of why you feel a certain way about abortion or gun control or inequality or immigration, then you're not the facts of who cares. You can change minds with facts sometimes, but it's uncommon. Absolutely. How have you seen a purpose linked to health choices in people's lives? It's the best way for you to identify that part of your purpose is to better the planet, to bring light to us. This is a rabbinical concept, and Judaism, let me speak to this, that your goals are bring light. And you have to challenge yourself,

are you bringing light to the world or not? And we can get petty, all of us can, we can make mistakes. But if what you're fundamentally trying to do is to lift the burden, then you're doing good. And one of the best ways you can do that is to your own body. Because you need to be on an albatross or on the neck of the people who love you, or you're leading the path forward. And the big insight that people don't acknowledge, but I'll share with you right now, is people who hang with healthy people get healthy. People hang with unhealthy people get sick. That's why when people, when couples marry, the wife will generally lose some health because she takes better care of herself in general than he does.

And his bad habits rub off on her. We want to flip that, move it the other way. Because once you figure out those basic simple steps which are much more tangible and visible, we can all get up in a walk half an hour in the morning and if you didn't walk, you didn't do it. Then from there, you meditation, well, how good you meditation.

Well, you can beat yourself about it, just trying, of course, the most important thing. But walking the 10,000 steps is easier to measure, quantify and check the box on, that you get to a place in meditation, that you were aiming for. And then that translates to living a life of awareness and fulfillment. Well, that's hard, right? People spend their whole lives and don't get there. It's maybe never supposed to get there.

And on and on until you finally get to a place where, and I've seen this, especially in older patients, where you did what you wanted to do, there's a serenity, a peacefulness. And I see that, especially in people who say, I've done enough. I don't need to have my life saved anymore. Dr. Oz, I know you cannot pray to my heart and make my valve better, but it's not about that. The people that I loved, I loved, many are gone. The things I needed to do I got passed. I'm ready for the next chapter.

And I pray that I'll one day be able to get there. For most of us, thinking to this podcast right now, we're not there, but we better take the steps so that we'll one day be that Otherwise, what's it about? Absolutely. Yeah, I love that. Okay, so Dr. I was honestly I could talk to you for hours like you're fascinating like this is We've got it. We've only got the final five left now, which is our quick fire rapid fire round that we end every Episode with but genuinely I hope we can do this again. I look forward to the show

Yeah, absolutely and I'd love to develop this friendship, too, because, yeah, you're fascinating to talk to. I could literally sit in this and eat for hours. So these are the final five. The first question I want to ask you is your father actually set you up with your wife. Tell us a bit about that. The best thing I ever did was marrying my wife. And I remember meeting her at a restaurant because my father has meeting her father for dinner.

They're both heart doctors, you know, surgeons. And she walked in a restaurant because my father has meeting her father for dinner. They're both hard doctors, you know, surgeons. And she walked to the restaurant and I was in love with her immediately. She thought I was the major day. And I didn't want my father to have any satisfaction with thinking he may have introduced me to my wife. This is a classic, this, this, this chord you should have, I think, if you're in a healthy father's relationship. And I dated her secretly for a while until one day he was giving me a hard time.

And saying, you know, you're always working. You're not focusing on things that really matter. I'm interested in that wonderful woman. You didn't even talk to her. And I finally acknowledged him. But not only was I talking to her that I was, but we were dating and I was going to marry her. And I did within a year. I love that. Great question number two. You've been married for over 30 years. 34 years. 34 years, which is incredible. Tell us one of the biggest lessons that has helped you create such a long term relationship. Also successful. It seems like you're so happy with it. Well, my father-in-law, this is my father-in-law, told me that I should give it on the small things because when the big decisions that we made, I'd be giving it on them as well, so I should know what it feels like.

But the bigger message, I didn't respect the Yin Yang of marriage. I didn't need Lisa to be good at what I was good at. I needed her to be good at what I was bad at. This is very thoughtful about deep, spiritual issues. She went to theologist called Columbia. If you look at her bedstand, it's deep, the deepest of the deep. Wow. And it's a pleasure reading.

I mean, she's devouring young just as a afternoon on a Sunday, just to remind herself about some of the basic premises. And I'm trying to catch up on playing football, my son, and I'm very tactical. And I needed her to tell me what the aim at back to where I initial comment about sin. And until I really respected, that's what I needed to fill the color in the lines of who I am. And it also puts on a responsibility to me to color

in her lines. Absolutely. Then if you do that together, then we're both satisfied. And so I see, and because of that, I now actively seek out people who are different from me. Because I don't need to get better at what I'm doing. And with people who are good at what I'm doing, I need to get better at things I'm really bad at. Absolutely. Love that question.

Number three, what is the most used app on your phone? Well, she was app. I mean, it's the messaging apps. Yeah. Because I'm always talking to folks and I find it incredibly valuable to ping people that I miss. And I don't ping them. Just say, hey, you know, I've told me something.

I ping them to remind them that there's stuff that's important that we got to focus on in life. My kids say I'm too clingy. But I feel an obligation. I love that. Number four, walking through your morning routine. I get up every morning around six. I'll do yoga for about seven minutes.

I say seven minutes on purpose because I know I know I always have seven minutes. I'm not going to admit to myself. I'm so disorganized. I don't have seven minutes. You won't either J or anyone or anyone listening. So seven minutes we can always start by a time you start your almost on. I do a sunset mutation with some calisthenics push up setups. If I have more time, I work out for an hour.

I've gone on to the gym and you know, we have a gym in our pool, we have, and I'll manage it. If not, then I'll get off the work. Then I don't eat any breakfast, don't have any coffee, I have a little lemon juice and water. So I, I, I'll diet a treat, by the way, get your gastrofluousid, your juices flowing. Around eight o'clock, eight thirty, a couple hours later, I feel a little hungry, I'll have your or in blueberries. I don't have any coffee or any later, I feel a little hungry, I'll have your blueberries. I don't have any coffee or any caffeine until later in the day. And I'll challenge everyone who can hear my voice

to do the same. You don't need caffeine when you first wake up. The alarm just woke you up. The toothpaste must have could have helped in the shower for sure will get you up. That's just a cultural issue. And if you can't go for more without, for two hours, without coffee, you're addicted.

So audit that in yourself. Around nine, 10 in the morning, have a cup of coffee. I'm not against caffeine, but recognize that it's not actually giving you energy, it's withdrawing your energy from the energy banks. So you make it a cultural issue, make it a pleasurable item. I'm not making something you have to have first

in the morning. And then from that I'm automated, you know, I make the shows, I nap every day, it's on the well, I'm not a little bit. Oh wow. I'm just sure that with your audience. It is the most valuable thing I've done in my life.

I used to nap even at the hospital when I had a chance. But you can go, you know, Leonardo da Vinci never slept through an evening, but he would nap every day a couple of times. So a nap is much more effective than caffeine or carbohydrates or any of the other things you may try in the afternoon. Eight hours after you wake him. So for us, it's about two in the afternoon. Take a five,ten minute nap. It'll change your life. Wow, I love that. And final question, if you could set the world and experiment, they had to do for 30 days, just one thing that they

had to do for 30 days in a row. What would it be? Sleep better. And it's much harder than you think. Work at it. It's worth the investment. Your creativity will be dramatically increased. And here's the best part, you work hard because you probably do anyway. You'll work smart. And everything will turn out better because you'll be able to connect the dots more and pack with anybody else. And sleep with somebody you do by yourself. Only you can do it. But those shortchanges yourself. Yeah, I love that. Thank you so much, Dr. Rose. That was awesome. I'm sure you all agree that we could listen to more and more of that.

So we're hoping that Dr. Oz will come back onto the podcast. Thank you so much for listening. There were so many great insights today. Make sure you grab them, share them on Instagram, Facebook, YouTube, Twitter, wherever you like. You know that I'm always sharing the ones that stand out to me. Like I said, go back through this episode and just pick one thing that you can start applying from tomorrow.

Just one thing, whether it's changing the height of something in your refrigerator, whether it's trying to get better sleep, whatever doctoros may have said that resonates with you. Just pick one thing, test it for the next week. I can't wait for you to listen to the next episode. Doctoros, thank you so much again. So grateful to you. I really appreciate it.

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