On Purpose with Jay Shetty - Jay Shetty: 7 Harsh Truths I Wish I Knew in My 20’s (I Would’ve Found My Purpose QUICK!)

Episode Date: May 16, 2025

When was the last time you looked back and thought, “If only I knew this earlier”? In this episode, Jay shares the seven life-changing lessons he wishes he’d learned in his teens and twenties—insights that could have reshaped his relationships, career, peace of mind, and sense of purpose. These aren’t just reflections; they’re powerful revelations most of us only discover through struggle, heartbreak, or burnout. Jay dives into what it truly means to speak with intention, to know when it’s time to let go, and to stop outsourcing your self-worth. From learning to stay quiet in a world that rewards noise to realizing that boundaries are an act of self-love—each lesson is a powerful reminder that growth isn’t always about adding more, but about releasing what no longer serves you. In this episode, you’ll learn: Why Saying Less Makes Your Words Matter More. Knowing When It’s Time to Walk Away Why You Should Talk To People, Not About Them. What Stress Reveals About a Person’s True Nature. How to Raise Your Standards Without Guilt. Why Some People Miss the Old You (for the Wrong Reasons). How to Stop Absorbing Others' Emotions and Expectations. This episode is for anyone feeling stuck, overlooked, or overwhelmed. Jay reminds you that you don’t get what you deserve — you get what you accept. And that sometimes the most powerful transformation happens when you choose peace over performance, presence over perfection, and truth over approval. With Love and Gratitude, Jay Shetty Join over 750,000 people to receive my most transformative wisdom directly in your inbox every single week with my free newsletter. Subscribe here.  Join Jay for his first ever, On Purpose Live Tour! Tickets are on sale now. Hope to see you there!  What We Discussed: 00:00 Intro 01:37 Things I Wish I Knew 03:27 Lesson #1: Speak Less, Say More 11:57 Lesson #2: Let Go Before It Drags You Down 17:34 Lesson #3: Talk to Your Partner, Not About Them 21:43 Lesson #4: Understand the Whole Person, Not Just the Parts You Like 28:05 Lesson #5: You Get What You Tolerate, Not What You Deserve 32:52 Lesson #6: People Cling to the Old You Because It Was Easier to Control 36:22 Lesson #7: “Bad at Texting” Often Means You're Not a PrioritySee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Hey everyone, thank you so much for tuning in today about the seven lessons I wish I had learned sooner. Truly these are seven lessons I wish I learned in my 20s, even in my teens and I think they would have changed my life. They would have changed the quality of my relationships, they would have changed my performance at work, they would have changed how quickly I found my purpose. Now if any of you out there are struggling with making an impact, if you're struggling with your mind, if you're struggling with anxiety or stress, this episode is for you. But before we dive in, I want to ask you a

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The reason why the lessons I'm about to share with you today are so powerful and so important is that they're often missed. We're taught so many things early in our life that we never use again. Think about the subjects you learned at school. What percentage of the subjects you studied at school do you practically use today? I'm guessing that percentage is quite low but the skills I'm about to share with you today if we had learned them that early they would have

benefited us forever. It's incredible to me that no one's sharing these insights that often we don't hear them as the best pieces of advice. This isn't what we're being told it's something that you have to read in between the lines to actually extract and implement in your life. I hope you have your notepad out. If you don't, don't worry. We'll be summarizing this as we go along and you'll be able to come back at any point

to grab the insight that you missed. Feel free to pause, play, rewind, fast-forward as you will because I want to make sure that this message lands. The first lesson I wish I'd learned sooner is the less you say the more your words will matter. I always used to think that the loudest person in a room had the most power, that the person who talked the most had the most control, until I realized the person who spoke the most was the least in control. They were trying to come across as likeable. They were trying to be popular. And in that attempt, they were actually making it harder for them to be memorable.

It was hard to be interesting for a 30 minute conversation and talk for 20 minutes of it. It was really difficult to be memorable when you said so many things, but no one remembered what you exactly said. It felt really uncomfortable to be quiet but every time you kept trying to interject and say something you felt even less confident because you didn't have anything meaningful to say. This principle, this lesson will change your life. The first thing it will do is it will stop you from being anxious in social settings. The number of us that walk into a social setting and try to come off as interesting and important

only to leave feeling insignificant and irrelevant to the conversation. If you realize that being silent is not a weakness, being silent is a strength. Why? Because you can listen. It means when you respond, people will also be able to tell that you took in what they say. See, most of us are struggling, not because we don't listen, but because we're thinking about what

we want to say while we're listening. Because of that we don't even digest what someone is sharing. So when we open our mouth that person feels disconnected and distant. So firstly it will remove that anxiety and nervousness when you're at a party, a social setting, a work event, whatever it may be. The second thing is you get the opportunity to be interested which is even more important than being interesting. People love to share and answer great questions. love to share and answer great questions. When you get good at asking good questions, people feel good. They react in a good way. They appreciate it. Now most of us, when we

ask questions, we ask things like, how was your day? That person has been asked that for so many years in their life that they have a rehearsed regurgitated answer. Something like good, fine, okay, blah. Right? Now you may be a little more bold and talk about the weather. That's boring too. That person has been asked about the weather for years. Now you may have heard, let's ask someone what's exciting for them. That can sometimes feel quite challenging for that person. Here's what I'm going to share with you.

If you're going to ask something, share your thoughts on it first. Say I've been watching this really cool TV show, what's your thoughts on it? Have you seen it? They go, no, I haven't seen it. And they say, tell me about it. Now you've actually been asked to share.

A lot of us say so much when we're not asked. Unsolicited advice and unsolicited conversation is potentially the hardest to hold someone's attention with. When someone asks you a question and you respond, that keeps their attention. When you talk without letting someone else get involved we actually lose their attention. The less you say the more your words will matter. The less you complain the

more people will listen. The less you react the more control you hold. The less you argue, the more dignity you keep. The less you chase, the more you attract. The less you speak from emotion, the more weight your words carry. The less you overcompensate, the more people understand you. Less noise, more impact. Less chatter, more respect. Less explaining, more commanding. Speak less and mean more. When you walk into a room and you just start complaining about your day, complaining about your journey, complaining about the travel, complaining

about your weekend, what does that do? It puts everyone into a negative space and negative environment. They now connect you and associate you with negative emotions. Even if they say, I agree, I'm sorry you went through that, I'm sorry to hear it. You have now created a contagious space for negativity. Save that complaining for a friend you can vent to. Save that complaining for someone who shares the same with you. When you're walking into the workplace, when you're walking into a family event, walk in and share something amazing that happened to you.

Something that you're grateful for. Ask someone else what was the most memorable part of their week. Something beautiful that happened to them. All of a sudden you're going to kickstart a chain reaction of positive events. In today's world of endless chatter, it's easy to believe more words mean more connection, but studies show the opposite. According to a 2014 Harvard study, people remember only 17 to 25% of what they hear in conversations.

Flood someone with words and your meaning gets lost like a drop in an ocean. Wise communicators know brevity creates impact. In Zen teachings, a story tells of a student who asked his master for the secret of wisdom. A student went up to his teacher and asked, what is the secret of wisdom? The teacher simply replied, listen. The student asked again, What is the secret of wisdom?

The teacher replied, Listen. Frustrated, the student demanded more explanation to which the teacher replied, If you listened, you wouldn't need

more words. This is one of my favorite stories because it shows us that rather than thinking about what we're gonna say, what we're thinking, evaluating, if we simply listened, paused and responded we'd actually have something meaningful to say. The reason you don't have something meaningful to say is because you haven't listened. We don't listen because we're scared of the gap between listening and responding but actually if you listen and you take that time what you say will have more value more impact and it's more likely to be remembered. So here's a habit a practical habit I want to share

with you. Before your next conversation ask yourself what is the essential message I want them to remember? Say it clearly in one or two sentences. So when you walk into a conversation make it really clear to yourself what is it I want to communicate? What is the essence of what I actually want to share? What do I want to embody? And let your silence add weight to your words. The second lesson I wish I'd learned sooner is let go or be dragged. Think about this, when you don't let go of something it doesn't stop, it doesn't pause. If you don't let go of a person they don't stop changing. If you don't let go of a person they don't stop living. If you don't let go of a person, they don't stop living.

If you don't let go of a person, they don't stop doing whatever it is they're doing. Sometimes the only way to strengthen your own relationship with yourself is to disconnect and let go of someone else. Think about all the times in your life where you were so attracted to someone, you just kept pursuing them. What happened? You didn't let go and you felt dragged along. What about when there was someone that you were dating and maybe they gave you all the signs, you saw all the red flags that this person wasn't right for you. But what did you do? You didn't let go and so you were dragged. And what about that friend who kept manipulating you, kept taking advantage of you, took you for granted

and you didn't let go, so you got dragged. It's much better when we voluntarily, early on, let go rather than get dragged throughout our life along with this person wherever they're going in whichever direction. Let go or be dragged. Let go or be left behind. Let go or be broken by what you're clinging to. Let go or be crushed under the weight of what's gone. Let go or lose yourself trying to hold what's already slipping away. Let go or stay trapped in a life that no longer fits you. Clutching what hurts you

doesn't save you. It sinks you. Clinging to what's over doesn't preserve it. It poisons you. Holding on too long turns love into resentment, hope into suffering, memories into anchors. What you won't release will eventually release you, maybe even brutally. What you won't walk away from will drag you until you can't walk at all. You don't lose by letting go. You lose by refusing to let go. See the thing is attachment often feels like love but unchecked attachment is more like a chain. There's even science to back this up. Neuroscience shows that our brains

literally rewire around emotional pain. Holding on to resentment, disappointment or hope for change can activate the same brain regions as physical pain. There's another Zen story that I love. Two monks are walking on a beach. They come across a woman who's actually drowning in the ocean. One monk jumps

into the ocean, swims out, picks her up and brings her back to shore. They make sure she's okay and walk on forward. A few hours later, the other monk asks the monk who jumped into the

ocean, my brother, we're monks, we're not supposed to touch women let alone carry them. How could you do that? The other monk replied, I carried her to safety. I set her down a few hours ago. Why are you still carrying her? This story beautifully illustrates the idea that the longer you carry something, the more it weighs you down, the more it affects you. And so many of us look at letting go like failure. We look at letting go like we made some mistake. us look at letting go like failure. We look at letting go like we've made some mistake. We look at letting go like we're ruining something. But actually letting go can be the best path forward. So here's a really practical step I want to take.

Write down one grudge, one disappointment or fantasy you're clinging to. And then ask yourself this. What would happen if I set it down today? Imagine walking lighter for just one hour and act from that place. Do the thought experiment. You don't even have to do it in reality. Just think about it for a moment. If you let it down, if you started applying for new jobs today rather than complaining about your current one,

if you started to find new connections and friends instead of comparing your life to your old ones, if you started to allow yourself to let go of the expectations you have of others, who would you be? I promise you the answer is far better than you even imagine. And if you're scared to do it in practice, practice it first in your mind. The third lesson I wish I'd learned sooner

was talk about your relationship with the person you're in a relationship with more than you talk to others. I speak to so many people. Now I know you've done this before and so have I. We all talk about our relationships with other people. I'm not just talking about romantic relationships even our friendships. You have a friend over here, you complain about them to this friend over here. You have your partner over here, you compare them to someone else's partner over there. You have an issue with someone over here, you talk about the issue with someone else who's not connected to the issue. Now I'm not

saying don't have friends. I'm not saying don't talk to your family. It's great to get advice from a therapist or a coach or even people in your life. It's about the proportion. 80% of our life should be talking to that person and 20% is talking to others to get wise counsel, to get advice, to get insights. It's a really healthy thing.

The problem is our proportions are the opposite. We may spend 20% speaking to the person we have a relationship with, and that 20% might be filled with arguments, conflict, tension, and then we go and talk about it with someone else who doesn't have the power to solve it. This will change your life. If you started to spend more time talking with the person rather than talking at them. If you could spend more time talking with your partner than talking about your partner, your relationship will change. If you could spend more time talking to your partner than talking about your partner, your relationship will change. If you could spend more time

investing in connecting with your partner than connecting with other people talking about your partner, your relationship will change. Talk about your relationship with the person you're in a relationship with, not other people. Talk about your problems with the person you have the problem with, not just other people. Talk about your needs with your partner not your friends. Talk about your doubts about your relationship with your partner not in group chats. Talk about your pain with the person you have the pain with not with outsiders who can't fix it. Nobody else knows your relationship like the two of you do.

Nobody else lives it and fights for it like you do. Advice is easy, judgments are cheap, but real change only happens between the two people who are actually in it. When you vent to others instead of speaking to your partner, you build walls instead of bridges. When you gossip about your relationship, you invite people into problems they don't belong to.

When you keep taking your issues everywhere apart from the person, you multiply the problem instead of solving it. Connection doesn't grow from side conversations. Trust doesn't grow from silence and resentment. Talk to them, not about them. Now look, I get it.

Venting can feel good in the short term. Brain imaging shows that expressing anger activates the brain's reward system. But chronically venting to friends instead of addressing issues directly creates emotional triangulation, a pattern that often worsens problems instead of solving them. There's a Zen story that I love where a man went to many neighbors to complain about his leaky roof. Each of them gave advice. Meanwhile, the leak worsened.

Finally, one wise neighbor said, talk to your roof. In other words, take action where it matters. It's great to get advice. It's important to have a support system. But don't forget, the number one system is solving it with the person. So here's today's practical habit. If something bothers you about your relationship today,

resist the urge to text some random person. Instead, set a time to text some random person. Instead set a time to talk to your partner. Share something you appreciate about them. Share where you want the relationship to go and then share with kindness, concern and directness how you want things to change and most importantly what you're willing to change that will change your relationship. I couldn't be more excited to share something truly special with all you tea lovers out there and even if you don't love tea if you love refreshing rejuvenating refueling sodas that

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someone is when they're stressed not just when they're at their best. How many times have you met someone and you meet them at their best day? You meet them at their party, you meet them at their event, you meet them when they just got promoted, you meet them when everything's okay and you literally think this person's amazing, I love them, right? Now that's not a bad thing. We all have good and bad days and I'm not saying to judge people on their bad days instead of their best days. What I'm saying is you don't really know who someone is until you've seen them on a bad day. You don't really know who someone is until you've seen them in a bad mood. You don't really

know who someone is until someone's done something bad to them. It's in those moments that you realize who someone truly is. 360 degrees. So rather than making just snap judgments on when you meet someone in a great mood at a great time, give yourself time to get to know them. Give yourself time to see them in different scenarios. It's also not just about good and bad. It's about seeing who someone is when they're with their family. It's about seeing who someone is when they're with their friends. It's about who's seeing someone is with strangers. It's about how someone treats the waiter. It's about how someone treats

the doorman. It's about how someone treats the waiter. It's about how someone treats the doorman. It's about how someone treats the person that they meet on the street. When you've seen someone in all these scenarios, you will have a healthier, deeper, more wholesome understanding of who they truly are. Don't meet someone in one environment and give it this amplified view that you assume that they're that person in every environment. Don't meet someone in one phase or stage of their life and assume they're gonna be that in every other stage. See the mind likes to make it easier. We like to think oh I

know this person I understand them. Well here's the truth. You understand who someone is when they're stressed, not just when they're at their best. You truly understand who someone is when they're overwhelmed. You truly understand who someone is when things don't go their way. You truly understand who someone is when they hear no. You truly understand who someone is when they lose control, not when they have it.

Anyone can be kind when they're comfortable. Anyone can be patient when they're winning. Anyone can be loving when everything is easy. But real character shows up when patience runs thin. Real loyalty shows up when you're not popular.

Real respect shows up when there's nothing to gain. Watch who blames, watch who lashes out, watch who punishes, and watch who stays gentle. Pressure doesn't create cracks, it exposes where they already were. Pay attention to who someone becomes when the easy parts fall away. That's who they are as well. That's who you're dealing with. That's who you're dealing with. That's the truth you can't ignore.

I think this is a really hard truth and we like to think, no, no, no, no, no, I know them and they're everything. Of course they're everything. But pressure shows us a person. Character isn't revealed when life is easy. It's tested and exposed under pressure. Research from the University of Oregon found that people's true traits emerge under stress

much more consistently than in calm conditions. Think about it. Anyone can be kind when things are going well for them. One of my favorite examples of all time is from Wayne Dyer. He says, when you squeeze an orange, what do you get? You get orange juice. You don't get pineapple juice. You don't get coconut water.

You get orange juice. Because when something is squeezed, you get what's within it. You get what's within it. You get what's inside. Some cracks reveal beauty. Others reveal weakness. Now the goal isn't to walk away from someone because they struggle with stress. The goal isn't to abandon someone who struggles with challenges or feels overwhelmed.

My point is, you just don't really know someone yet. So here's today's challenge and habit and experiment that I want you to practice. Notice how someone reacts to a small inconvenience. A traffic jam, a late order, a mistake. Are they gentle or harsh with themselves or with you? Are they patient or punishing with themselves and with you? Take note without judgment, but get clarity as to what you're getting involved in. Lesson number five that I wish I'd learned sooner is you don't get what you deserve, you get what you accept. We hear this all the time.

I think I deserve more. I deserve more money. I deserve more love. I deserve more respect. And we walk around sometimes internally feeling we're not getting what we deserve. And guess what? You're right. You're not getting what you deserve.

You're getting what you accept. No one's going to notice when you work harder at work if you don't make it clear. No one's going to notice when you're putting effort into a relationship unless you make it clear. No one's going to know or remember the sacrifices you've made until you stand up for yourself. Remember, you don't get what you deserve. You get what you accept. You don't get what you deserve. You get what you protect.

You don't get what you deserve. You get what you settle for. You don't get what you deserve, you get what you settle for. You don't get what you deserve, you get what you fight for. Deserve is a feeling. Acceptance is a standard. Boundaries are protection. You can work hard and still be overlooked. You can love deeply and still be mistreated.

You can give everything and still be taken for granted. If you don't stand for yourself, no one else will. If you don't protect your peace, no one else will. If you don't guard your value, it will be discounted. Respect is not given freely. It's enforced by your standards. Love isn't enough. It's shaped by what you allow.

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Hi, this is Ruthie Rogers, host of our podcast, Ruthie's Table Four. I like all sorts of things that aren't good for me. Fried chicken. Fried chicken. Donuts. podcast. A 2021 study by the American Psychological Association found that individuals who consistently tolerated small boundary violations were 62% more likely to end up in emotionally exhausting relationships. 62%! Think about that, right? When we're accepting people breaking our boundaries, people not respecting our worth, we're just taking in whatever it is. You're not gonna get what you deserve. I work at home wherever. It doesn't work that way. One of my favorite stories about this is a story about a farmer who accepts that a storm will come. He doesn't pray it away or deny it. He just builds stronger walls. In a similar way, accepting less than you need

teaches others you will bend until you break. Here's the habit I want to set for you today. Think of one boundary you've been hesitant to enforce. It could be late replies, cancelled plans, jokes at your expense. Today, calmly but clearly state your boundary once. First to yourself and then when you're comfortable with someone else. Maybe you keep allowing people to cancel plans last minute. Maybe you keep allowing people to get away with saying things about you.

Now, here's the thing. The reason why we fail at this is we usually attack people. We don't set a boundary. We attack people. We say, why do you treat me like this? Don't do that. That's not a boundary. A boundary is something you keep as a promise to yourself.

If someone does this again, I will not invite them again. If someone talks to me that way again, I will not respond to them. A boundary doesn't mean someone else acts differently. A boundary means you act differently when that person acts the same. You can't change how someone's going to treat you. So you have to set a boundary with yourself for how you'll respond when they treat you that way. If someone's mean to you once more, how are you going to set a boundary for yourself? That's what I want you to focus on.

Lesson number six, I wish I'd learned sooner, is some people love the old version of you because they could control them. This is a really harsh truth. How many times have you ever had someone who's like, I miss the old you, you always had time. What they're saying is you always had time for me. How many times have you had someone say to you,

oh my gosh, I loved who you were in like 2022, like you were so much fun. What are they saying? You were so much fun for me. Someone says, oh my gosh, remember back in the day when you just come over and we just cook together and we'd figure it out? What they're saying is that was convenient for me some people love the old version of you because they could control them some people love the old version of you because they don't want to grow some people love the old version of you because it made them feel bigger some people love the old version of you because it kept them comfortable some people love the old version of you because it kept them comfortable.

Some people love the old version of you because it made their lives easier, not better. They don't miss you. They miss the version of you who stayed small. They don't miss you. They miss the version of you who didn't set boundaries. They don't miss you. They miss the version of you who didn't set boundaries. They don't miss you, they miss the version of you who needed their approval. When you outgrow the old version of yourself, you outgrow the people who needed you to stay there. When you heal, you disrupt the

systems that benefited from your wounds. When you rise you reveal who was rooting for your survival not your success. Don't shrink to fit into old spaces. Don't bend to make old relationships easier. Don't apologize for becoming someone new. If they can only love the unhealed, unsure, controlled version of you, they don't love you. They love your compliance. This is probably the hardest one to learn because we feel bad. We wish we could still be that person, but we know we're not.

We're more organized. We're more focused. We have more commitments. We have more priorities. and that person wants us to be available, around, just be there all the time. See, science backs this up. Growth threatens those who benefited from your smallness. A 2022 survey showed 58% of people admit they felt uncomfortable when a close friend or partner leveled up in their life. It's not always malice. It's not like they want you to fail. It's not negative. It's fear. We're scared because it reminds us of our lack of growth. And so what I'm saying to you is you don't have to shrink back into that version to compensate. Actually what's more likely is if you keep growing they may one day too. Not if you're trying to convince them, not if you're trying to make them grow just by

watching you fly. They may one day choose to fly as well. So here's my habit for you today. Write down one way you've changed for the better in the last 12 months. Celebrate it privately or share it proudly without apologizing. Lesson number seven I wish I'd learned sooner is I'm just bad at texting. Is code for you not a priority. I used to always want to convince people even if they didn't message back, even if they didn't respond, I always wanted to stay connected only to realize they didn't really want to connect with me and while I was trying to do that I was missing out on the group of people here who really did. I

was ignoring a group of people who wanted to connect, believed in me, support me for a group of people who showed no signs of it. I promise you there is more love in your life than you even recognize because you're looking in the wrong direction. I promise you there are more people who want to be friends with you than you realize because you're trying to be friends with someone else. I promise you there are so many people who would want to spend time with you but you're missing out on them because you're trying to chase someone else.

Read the signs. You don't need to become a conspiracy theorist. Most of the time, again, it's not malice, it's not negative. People just have different priorities. Don't make it to be like some conspiracy theory that you got left out, you got let go, you didn't get invited. You just don't click. It just doesn't work and it's not a big deal. There are people out there who want to click with you, connect with you, invite you. Remember this. Read in between the lines. I'm just bad at

texting is code for you're not a priority. I'm confused about what I want is code for I'm sure I don't want you enough. I'm bad at communicating is code for I'm not willing to put in the effort with you. I don't know what I'm looking for is code for, I'm keeping my options open. I'm just focusing on myself right now is code for, I don't see a future with you. I'm not ready for anything serious is code for, I'm ready, just not with you. People make time for what they care about. People make effort for what they care about. People make effort for who they value.

People show up for who they want. Excuses are translations. Listen to what they're really saying. And protect your energy. Believe the patterns, not the promises. Actions are the only real language you can trust. Consistent communication is a choice, not a personality trait. Research from the Pew Research Center shows that 89% of people aged 18 to 49

check their phones multiple times an hour. If someone wanted to reach out, they could. It's really important to remember that. So here's the habit. If you're chasing someone's attention, pause. Notice who freely reaches out to you today without prompting and give your energy back in that direction. Thank you so much for tuning in today.

I hope this episode helps you learn these lessons, clear your mind and deepen your relationships. Remember, I'm not saying anyone who treats you this way is bad, negative or a horrible person. It's just important to get really clear and not have the conspiracy arch over our mindsets. Make sure you subscribe and make sure you don't miss out on another video or another episode with On Purpose. If you love this episode, you'll love my interview with Dr. Gabor Mate on understanding your trauma and how to heal emotional wounds

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