On Purpose with Jay Shetty - Kendall Jenner ON: Setting Boundaries to Increase Happiness & Healing Your Inner Child

Episode Date: September 12, 2022

You can order my new book 8 RULES OF LOVE at 8rulesoflove.com or at a retail store near you. You can also get the chance to see me live on my first ever world tour. This is a 90 minute interactive sho...w where I will take you on a journey of finding, keeping and even letting go of love. Head to jayshettytour.com and find out if I'll be in a city near you. Thank you so much for all your support - I hope to see you soon.Today, I sit down with the one and only Kendall Jenner. Kendall is a successful business founder, international supermodel, founder of the incredibly successful tequila brand, 818, and star on the Hulu’s, the Kardashians, which premieres in its second season on September 22nd. Kendal shows us a different side of her as she shares how her curiosity for people with brilliant minds and doing so much to give back to the world has eventually led to this interview. Behind the glamor and spotlight, she especially enjoys having some time alone with herself, and she values the importance of setting boundaries and why we should do things that lead to genuine happiness. We talk about her childhood and her love for animals, how the simple things give her the most joys, getting through grief after losing a dear friend, and finding the heart to be more kind to your inner child.Kendall remains grounded and in tune with her inner goddess and is not allowing negativity and ill intentions change who she is, who she may become, and the purpose she is living by.  What We Discuss:00:00:00 Intro00:00:26 “I think I manifested this interview…”00:09:53 “I grew up in a horse community.”00:15:42 Craving the simple things00:18:51 Setting boundaries for yourself00:21:46 Putting yourself first00:27:15 It’s important to be happy00:28:51 Reassuring yourself of who you really are00:33:06 Sometimes, family can be overwhelming00:35:54 Losing a dear friend00:40:53 Finding a new purpose00:45:38 Stop being mean to your inner child00:50:24 Kendall on Final FiveEpisode ResourcesKendall Jenner | InstagramKendall Jenner | TwitterKendall Jenner | FacebookDo you want to meditate daily with me? Go to go.calm.com/onpurpose to get 40% off a Calm Premium Membership. Experience the Daily Jay. Only on CalmWant to be a Jay Shetty Certified Life Coach? Get the Digital Guide and Workbook from Jay Shetty https://jayshettypurpose.com/fb-getting-started-as-a-life-coach-podcast/See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:01:39 the iHeart Radio app Apple Podcast or whatever you listen to podcasts. If your happiness depends on the actions of others, you know, you're at mercy of things that you can't control. Yeah, I'm not even just saying this, I literally think I manifested this. It's the... after I saw you at Simea and Hays' house, so that was a couple months ago, and then a few weeks ago, my, I was talking to my social media girl randomly. We were just talking about bunch of stuff and just kind of what I would love to represent and just talking about a new chapter for me and whatever.
Starting point is 00:02:21 And I was, she was like, who would you really want to like talk to or whatever? And I was like, it would be so cool to talk to Jay. And she was like, that would be really cool. And then we kind of just, that was kind of the thought and whatever. And then you hit me. And I was like, no, frickin' way. He's hitting me right now.
Starting point is 00:02:35 So I was like, absolutely. This is like perfect. It's the universe just putting it in perfect timing. Because that makes me so happy because it was exactly the opposite way. So I've for a long time had people that I'd love to sit down with. And every time I saw you do something with mental health and vogue or any of the segments that you ever did, I was just like, she's amazing.
Starting point is 00:02:54 Like, you know, it's incredible the way you were talking about it when you'd post about it. I'd be like, oh, this is incredible. Like to see you speaking so openly about it, invulnerably about it. And so I've always wanted to do this. And then, but we've never really crossed paths. And so I'm always just a bit like, and I don't like asking friends or friends when I haven't met someone.
Starting point is 00:03:12 And so I was like, that day I had to like, pluck up the card and then I'm just gonna ask of myself. No, it's easier when I'm not staring. And I know Christie, so. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But I was like, it's nicer when there's, I told my team too, I was like, it's so much nicer when there's like a personal connection
Starting point is 00:03:26 For sure and someone really feel comfortable rather than it's like a PR No, it was it was so perfect like when I think back to it I'm like that was me just trusting the universe and not pushing for anything and I knew it was gonna kind of happen when it was supposed to And it literally did it. Yeah, you felt it Yeah, I did Yeah, and I hope that is the sort of spending more time together. Me too, me too. I love that.
Starting point is 00:03:49 I would love that, because I think also, I don't know, I admire people like you. I admire the Michael Pollens and Michael Singers and Wim Hof's of the world. And I feel like you fit in that category for me of just people that are, because I know a little bit about your story. I'd like to actually know more, which would be really cool to actually, I know we're obviously not here to do for that.
Starting point is 00:04:11 Exactly. But for me, just personally, I'd love to know more of your story. I know that you've had quite the experiences. And I think that's so cool. I'm so intrigued by people with just that amount of curiosity and determination and patience. Like that takes so much patience to be like you or any of those people that I just listed, it's so cool to manage.
Starting point is 00:04:34 I wish, I wish for myself, but I'm working on it. No, you're that curious too. You're that curious to know. I know, it's just that level of, like I said, patience and determination is like, it's a gift. Like that is like a really, really amazing gift. And like I said, like I'm just working on it all the time and I, that's my goal in life,
Starting point is 00:04:54 I guess. Well, I think I feel the same way about you again that, and by the way, I love all those people you just mentioned too. Yeah. So feel very honored to be put into that group of people. And we've had women on the podcast before too. So he's been a guest. But with you, I feel the same way back when it's like when you see someone who is so curious, who could get
Starting point is 00:05:12 away with not worrying about these things, if you don't want to, but then still being courageous enough to talk about these things. And then using your platform as a space to open up these dialogues, like that is as if not more important as well as as doing the work and doing the path. I can see you doing the work. It's fun watching you do the work and figuring it out. I love working on myself. It is actually a passion of mine. I find so much comfort and joy in actually finding where I think I could better myself and being like even if it's physical like physical as in like my physical health or working out or I just started doing speaking
Starting point is 00:05:50 of Wim Hof I just started doing like cold plunges and ice baths and like even if I don't have the time to go outside I just got a cold plunger. I did it right before I got here. The best thing ever is also again it takes so much mental they're the whole thing of it is all mental so I don't know just stuff like that I really love. So I'm always, I'm always trying to just be the best version of me. And so I just love that. It like actually makes me feel really good. I love self-care and I just love stuff like that.
Starting point is 00:06:16 So it's been really cool. But it's cool for you to say that you enjoy seeing that from me because there's always been kind of this weird part of it for me where I'm like, is this a pity party? Because I don't want it to be. Like I want this to feel very positive. I want to connect with people.
Starting point is 00:06:33 And I guess that is my goal there is to be like, there actually is this side of me that you may not know of. But the goal here is to connect and also not feel like I'm throwing some pity party for myself because I want this to be a learning experience for everyone. I want this to be really positive and really, really well received. I want you to look it in and actually have a positive feeling towards it. So I don't know, you'll find like if I, you know, when I do kind of post about something or when I want to talk about something, I'm usually sharing a tip or like sharing kind of like
Starting point is 00:07:05 a little technique, even if it's something so simple as like walking outside, taking a few deep breaths and journaling, like it's just that kind of stuff that I really like to share, because I feel like I want to be helpful more than anything. And that's how, that's at least how I see it. Like I see it, not completely, not as a pity party at all,
Starting point is 00:07:24 but so much more is just, hey, here's a reminder of something that I did. And I feel like that positivity shines through too and the way you do it. So at least if that helps, whatever that's work from the outside, it definitely comes across that way. And this is easily been the warmest introduction to a flower conversation I've ever experienced in my entire life. I was going to say I was actually I was actually really nervous coming in here because this means so much to me. Like, and I'm serious because you know I've done a lot of interviews in my life and when thinking about this one or thinking about that I even wanted to do something like this,
Starting point is 00:07:57 it just, it means a lot to me and so it made me a little nervous and I was like I just want to get this right. This isn't like me going out and promoting something or talking about something. This is something very real that we all experience, which is just ourselves and our well-being and just everything. So. Yeah, and this is a, for me, genuinely,
Starting point is 00:08:19 and I really do mean this. The podcast has been a great excuse or really from my side in intention to get to know people and I really admire. And so for me it's been a great way of building new friendships and relationships because if you can sit and talk to someone and really get along with each other, you're like, oh, we should do this more often. So for me it's definitely been that and to me you know you saying that and you know taking it as intentionally as you are, it's, you know, for me, it's as important.
Starting point is 00:08:47 I always share this before we start recording usually, but we just flowed. Hey, everyone. Welcome back to on purpose, the number one health podcast in the world. Thanks to each and every single one of you that come back every week to listen, learn, and grow. And I'm so excited to be talking to you today. I can't believe it. My new book, Eight Rules of Love is out. And I cannot wait to share it with you. I am so so excited for you
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Starting point is 00:09:42 about tickets, VIP experiences, and more. I can't wait to see you this year. Now, it's very rare that I get to sit down with someone that I have admired for a very long time from afar. Someone that I believe has inspired me through the sharing of their story, someone who speaks so vulnerably and openly about the things that I most care about, mental health,
Starting point is 00:10:01 purpose, the journey of life and discovery and curiosity. And what I want to share about this person is when I bumped into them at a mutual friend's birthday party and I just want to give a big shout out to Simian Hayes because it wouldn't happen. Without them, I love you Simian Hayes. You've been amazing guests on the podcast before as well. I want to bump into this individual and had this opportunity to reach out to them. And as soon as I reached out, this has been the most flowing conversation and connection that I possibly add on the podcast to be honest.
Starting point is 00:10:28 So I just want to put that out. I'm speaking about the one and only. Someone who needs no introduction, but successful business founder, international supermodel, founder of the incredibly successful Tequila brand 818 and star on the Hulu's, the Kardashians, which premieres in second season on September 22nd. The one I know only, Kendall, Jenna, Kendall, thank you. So much for doing this. Thanks for having me. That was a wonderful introduction. Oh, well, it's honest being such an honor
Starting point is 00:10:55 getting to know someone who, it's very rare that I find someone who functions with very similar values in a personal connection sense. So when I reached out to you, I really meant everything I said and I could have written you an essay but I was like let's spare the details. And then to get your response and then for us to be here within a couple of weeks of connecting. And even your message this morning, I just want people to know, I was like the text you said
Starting point is 00:11:21 this morning, I was like this never happens. Like I was amazing and I was like and I was literally going to do the same thing. And so to morning, I was like, this never happens. Like, I was like, it's amazing. And I was like, and I was literally gonna do the same thing. And so, to me, I was like, this is very rare. And so, I love the synergy and the flow that we're experiencing. And me too. I'm excited to get into it now. It's funny, because I called Hayes before the other day. And I was just like, oh my God, I'm going on your friend's show.
Starting point is 00:11:40 And whatever. And she was like, he's the best. It's good. You're just gonna flow right into it. He so easy to talk to and that's literally what happened and like I told you I just feel like I manifested this moment for for both of us and for this just this whole experience and so I am really happy to be here and I'm honestly honored like I said I admire you and I there's so many people like you that I admire so I think sitting down here with you is just so cool for me
Starting point is 00:12:04 and I get to talk about fun things with you. Amazing, first of many. And I wanted to start with, because I always like to start with just things that I've seen more recently. A couple of days ago, I think you posted a beautiful picture of you hugging your horse. And you were like snuggle time or something like that.
Starting point is 00:12:19 And I was just like, when did horses become a part of your life and how did you get so close to them? I think I've spent many lifetimes with horses. I think this is very one of many lifetimes that I've had. I grew up in a horse community. So where we grew up horses everywhere. Tril- more trails than there were homes really. And so I was always around horses and I just was deeply in love with them. And I have no explanation and that's why I say I feel like in past lives I have just been around horses. Yeah, so since I was a really young kid, loved them and continued to love them my whole life. They're just the best, they're the most
Starting point is 00:12:56 majestic and gorgeous and spiritual they feel everything. I just, it's such an honor to be in their presence and to be able to do what I can do with my horse. I find so magical that I can stand in her stall with her and just like, vibe out with her. I like, sometimes come to like, a little get a little teary eyed when I'm standing in my stall with her because I'm like, this is so cool
Starting point is 00:13:19 that you allow me to do this and we have this connection without any words. It's just the best thing ever. So I love them. Yeah, that's so special. I have a different tier-eyed story with horses. I'll tell you the short version. So when I proposed to my wife, like, I can't wait to introduce you to, when I proposed to her, which is eight years ago, or something like that, when I proposed to her, I organized a very, what I would consider, like a very, a very Hollywood proposal. It was
Starting point is 00:13:43 too over-the-top and I would do it totally different today with everything I've learned happens. Yeah, it happens. It happens and so we were walking to buy the Thames in London which is where we both born and raised and this acapala group jumps out and they're singing Bruno Mars and then like they give her a bouquet of flowers and then I get on one knee. I propose we have dinner by the river and then we walk around the corner and There's a horse during carriage to take us around To take us on London and so we're on this carriage We have this beautiful, you know, path through London and then we get into the train to get back home to her parents to tell them and they already knew She's got hives all over her face She was allergic to horses. No.
Starting point is 00:14:25 And I found out the day I proposed to her. I was like, all right, so then she was like, she had tears and when we got back, her parents were like, what did you do to her? At least you got to enjoy the moment. And she got to enjoy the way that I was in the thru. But no, I love horses. I love horses.
Starting point is 00:14:36 No, I love horses the same way you do. Like I used to go to India a lot when I was a kid. And that's where I first learned to be with horses. And it's. I mean, they're so therapeutic. Absolutely, yeah. There's a reason there's equine therapy. It's the best.
Starting point is 00:14:49 Exactly. Yeah, they make me, they make me, when I'm with her, I have a few, but I'm mostly with one of my horses right now, because her name's Dylandra. I didn't name her. She came with her name. But I call her Dylan or Dyl. I love her so much. But when I'm with her,
Starting point is 00:15:05 I genuinely, I speak of like, I spoke about how I've just loved horses my whole life. I feel like a kid around her. Like I feel like my 12 year old self that would get up every morning throughout the entire summer at 8 a.m. to go just be at my trainer's facility and I would stay there from 8 a.m. to 8 p.m. I'd ride all her horses. I'd ride all her horses, I'd groom all her horses, I would just sit in the stalls with all the horses. It's just any time I'm with her, I just have that sense of being a child again and it's a really, really good feeling. Yeah, animals have that special ability. They're great. They're so awesome. Whichever animal you're attracted to and I never thought I would but when I lived as a monk,
Starting point is 00:15:42 the animal that's revered in India is cows. And you would never think of cows being majestic or in that way, especially when you're in India, but the cows in India have these lotus-like eyes. Like the eyes are just absolutely stunning. And they're so special, and they're such gentle animals. And recently, Rady and I went trekking with gorillas in Rwanda,
Starting point is 00:16:05 and Gorillas are the, we have to go. That sounds unreal. It was unbelievable, and there the animal that's revered in Rwanda, so whenever they have a new Gorilla that's born, they have a naming ceremony with the community. I love that. It's so beautiful, but, and then I heard somewhere that your first job was you were a dog walker.
Starting point is 00:16:22 Yeah. And so I was thinking, like, do you have any lessons or anything you learned by being a dog walker? I think first jobs are so interesting. Yeah. No, I mean, I was always a super disciplined child. Like, meaning to my, like, I just loved, I would put myself to bed at 7 p.m.
Starting point is 00:16:39 be like, my mom would be like, playing with me and my little sister and be like, mom, it's seven. I gotta go to sleep. Like, it's time for my bedtime, she'd be like, are you okay? And so I was always that kid. And so I think I just was always really eager to like work.
Starting point is 00:16:52 I don't know why. I just like wanted to always have something to do, something that I felt passionate about that I really enjoyed. And so yeah, when I was young, I put some flyers around our community and said I would walk dogs and I ended up getting people that would get
Starting point is 00:17:06 Let me have their dog for a few hours and take it for a walk So I loved animals and I liked having something to do So I spent I was a kid that liked to be by myself with animals So like I think that that was a cool Very fitting thing for me because I got to be by myself walking But then also experience all these little dogs Yeah,. Yeah, I wish I had a day I used to deliver newspapers. So that was my first job and it's not as glamorous in London because it's raining. Was that what you were desiring or was it?
Starting point is 00:17:35 No, I was just like, what are you doing? I wanted to make some money. Yeah, I was like, I need to make some money. Yeah, and so I was like, I'm gonna start doing this and you don't get to, you know, you'd see it in the movies where the paper boy just like chucks the paper out of the door, but I'd actually go and put it inside. So my only interaction with dogs is they were on the inside grabbing the paper. Oh, right.
Starting point is 00:17:52 And so yeah. I'm barking at you. Yeah, the dog here and stuff. But I always love knowing about people's first jobs and how things started for them because of, you know, obviously where you are today. But what do you think it was in those early years where you just said you were very disciplined, like it sounds like you were you were aware of certain
Starting point is 00:18:10 habits that you built then. What were some of the things that you feel confident about or how did you look for validation in those early years and where did it come from for you? I mean, it's interesting so Kylie, my little sister, she was always the social butterfly. I was always, I just liked being to myself. I don't know if that's the Scorpio in me, so it just came naturally or whatever. I had a group of friends who I loved, but I just, I like, convivently remember just on the weekends not running to go be with my friends all the time during the summer. I was with them, but on the weekends in between school, I would, I was really just by myself. I would love to like hang out in my room. I like was kind of a nerd. I loved video games and like sitting on the computer and playing Sims all day. Like I just
Starting point is 00:18:54 kind of liked being to myself and then all day long during the summer was with my horses. And yeah, I don't know. It just brought me joy. I don't think I have like a You know a super long explanation for that. It was so simple for me as a kid like it was just as simple as that made me happy And that's just what I wanted and it explains I guess a lot of me now I went through like a phase where I felt like I had to be around people I think I live a very social life, and my job is very social. So I was kind of conditioned to want to be around people a lot. And then as the pandemic came around, you're not around as many people anymore.
Starting point is 00:19:36 Now I'm just re-enjoying being by myself, which is really cool. Yeah. And I had the best day on Sunday, all by myself. I got up, I went and rode my horses. I like took my niece to ride her pony. Just me and her, it was so nice. Brought her back home, went to my house,
Starting point is 00:19:54 got in my cold plunge, went in my pool, laid out journals, like I was having the best day and I was just pretty much all by myself. So I enjoy it so much. I love them, sure that's so refreshing for people to hear too, because I feel like people may, from the outside, perceive a life,
Starting point is 00:20:08 which obviously, like you said, for work, it's busy, and it's so cool. And of course, you have wonderful friends, but to know that you can feel comfortable in your own company, and that's been a habit that you've developed. I crave simple things. Like I love my life, and I love my job,
Starting point is 00:20:23 and I feel so fortunate that I have been placed here that for some reason I was given this life. Like I feel immensely grateful for that. And I have had so much fun. And I like think back on just the experience that I've had, the experiences that I've had this far. And it's like I'm shocking to me. I'm like this is so frickin' cool that I live this life.
Starting point is 00:20:44 But at the end of the day, like when I am home and when I'm alone, like I crave the simple things. I love a simple day. I love just like a simple routine and being to myself and being around the people that I love, my small core crew. So yeah, that's beautiful. Yeah, I mean, that's, I think that's what we're all striving for is that passion and our career and our work and then simplicity at home. How many times a day do you have to switch tools and jump from document to document to keep up with your team? You deserve to collaborate in one single tool. So check out Coda, the dog that brings words, data and teams together.
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Starting point is 00:24:08 like something that really brings you joy internally when you think about it or when you had it. Like I said, I look back and the things that I've accomplished, just even my job, like I think, I really at one point when I was younger, decided, I wanna be a model and this is what I wanna do, and the fact that I executed, because we point, when I was younger, decided I want to be a model, and this is what I want to do. And the fact that I executed, because we talked about that determination, I really was,
Starting point is 00:24:31 I was 14 years old when I kind of made that decision, and was like, this is what I want to do, and I went to my mom, and I was like, please help me do this. And I didn't stop until I was 24, that I was like, okay, I think I need to like take it back and watch which we can also get into because that's a very kind of dramatic story. But like I just knew and I think I'm proud of myself for being that kid and being determined to do that and then executing and doing it to the level
Starting point is 00:25:00 that I had done it and that I guess I still do. But I also am proud of, I think, more so, the self-work that I've done within that process. Because there was a long period of time, I'd say the core five years of it that I was extremely overworked, not my happiest, not because I wasn't doing what I loved, but just because I was overwhelmed.
Starting point is 00:25:26 And I felt like I was saying yes to everything, because I felt really, really grateful and really honored to be in the position that I was in. So I was always saying yes. And it just took a lot out of me to the point where I just wasn't happy anymore. And so I had to set those boundaries for myself when I was about 23,24. I'd say like
Starting point is 00:25:46 what a year before the pandemic. So yeah, I was probably 23. I really set boundaries for myself. And I was like, I want to continue to do this because this is what I love. But I need to start saying no when I can and prioritizing me and prioritizing like, you know, my happiness and my well-being and it has done wonders for me. Like, I feel like I can show up better for myself and I can show up a better person for the people that got to be around me that day and, you know, that I work with on that day. So, yeah. Yeah. So, that's what I'm proud of. Sorry, I give you a long answer. That's your dear question. That's amazing. I won't say I was hoping for that because I'm always open
Starting point is 00:26:30 to wherever anyone's life experience goes, but there's a part of me that loves hearing that. Like I really appreciate hearing that because when you've achieved so many incredible things in your career, what you have, to then say, well, this is the part, like knowing how to navigate it or making the right choices at the right time. Healthy balance.
Starting point is 00:26:45 Healthy balance. It's so important. It's important for all of us. Like, we have to, this is what we're prioritizing, you know? Yeah. How did you find the courage to do that at the 23 mark as you're saying? You're in a competitive industry. As you said, it was overworking.
Starting point is 00:27:02 It's fast paced. I'm guessing there's comparison in that industry, there's competition in that industry. It's not an easy space to be. You're in the top 0.01% in your industry, it's hard. And the reason I asked this is because I work with so many people in this space.
Starting point is 00:27:18 And to have the courage to say, no, I know that if I sort this out, then all of this is gonna be just fine. That actually takes more courage than we recognize. We realize that when you have nothing, then there's nothing to lose, you can actually have a lot of courage. But when you have everything and there's everything to lose, and a lot of the time, at least what I've heard in town
Starting point is 00:27:38 is older managers and agents, and I'm not saying you have any of this, but people that I know will be told, well, hey, if you don't do this, like, you'll be forgotten next year or, you know, your career is only going to last another six months. How did you have that card to say, no, no, no, I need to do this. Like, where did that come from? I think that it's interesting.
Starting point is 00:27:55 Like, I've never thought about it that way to be completely honest with you. I just knew that if I had gone any further that I was going to lose myself, I was at that very, I was on the teeter-totter edge of that point where had I gone any further, I was probably not going to be great. It was so important to me to feel good that I just knew that it was something that I had to do, and I can't say say like, you're absolutely right. Like there were so many people around me that had told me not to say no and told me, yeah, told me not to say no, told me not to stop. I fought my way out of it a little
Starting point is 00:28:38 bit because there were people that had worked for me that, you know, didn't want me to stop because it might have benefited them. Of course. But I got to that point and I just knew I had to do it and I don't know. I don't know how to explain it, I guess. It was just such an unbelievable sensation that I had where I knew that if I do this,
Starting point is 00:28:57 I'm gonna be better for everyone and I'm gonna be better for myself, which means I'm gonna be better for the people around me and I have to do this. And so it wasn't really, I want to be able to live with happiness, God forbid any of this ever went away. And I think that that was a big moment for me of being like, I'm going to be okay, if I don't get this job tomorrow. And I'm going to be okay if I don't get that job in a month. If I have to take this time to do whatever,
Starting point is 00:29:25 things will come, everything's going to work out the way it's supposed to and I had to trust that. So, yeah. Well, to me, from the outside, and it's beautiful that you didn't see it in yourself, because that always makes it even more wonderful. But the idea that to me from the outside, that's a lot of courage.
Starting point is 00:29:38 Yeah, thank you. It takes a lot of courage, it takes a lot of vulnerability and openness, and it takes courage at every level, whether someone's thinking about quitting their job to do something they love, or whether someone's trying to relocate their family and doesn't know how, or whether someone like you is feeling success, but then going, well, wait a minute. And I think in the past few years, we've seen athletes and musicians and actors and people in all creative industries step back and
Starting point is 00:30:02 say, well, I need to put me first Yeah, and I think that that's empowering Because I think we hear about burnout in work culture and corporate culture so often for sure So What what what was it that you started to do with that newfound time at that time like where was is that where the curial Was the curiosity always there and now you could actually follow it? It was it was it was always there and I had had actually follow it? It was. It was, it was always there. And I had had a lot of people coming to me telling me about meditation and how it changed their life
Starting point is 00:30:31 and therapy and so many different things. And I was a bit overwhelmed because I was like, oh my God, what of this is gonna suit me? I think it's a very personal experience. I think everybody has a very different version of all of that stuff. And so it was a little overwhelming. So I think everybody has a very different version of all of that stuff. And so it was a little overwhelming. So I think I really just took the time to be off for
Starting point is 00:30:49 a second. It was even the little things. It was like being able to go to my friend's birthday party, which I wouldn't have been able to go to before because I was working a lot. I love hearing that because I think it is those simple things like giving yourself that space, whatever it is that you need it to do. Yeah. When you needed it. And like you said, sometimes it's like, that's when all the subscribe buttons come up in front of you. And it's like, try this and try this. And it's like, well, no, no, no, let me just take my time.
Starting point is 00:31:14 It was also now that I think about it. Yeah. 23, I'm 26, I've had my horse for, so around that time is when I bought the horse that I have now, So, around that time is when I bought the horse that I have now, who is my, like, I jump her and I, like, I have two other horses, but they're, like, retired, so I don't really ride them the same way I ride her. So, yeah, I guess it was around that time too, that I was like, I'm going to do this because I love this. And, like, I want to get back into it, and this is what I've loved my whole life.
Starting point is 00:31:42 So, it was around that time that I feel like all of that started happening and I bought my horse and I like started taking more time for things that made me really happy. Yeah, what I would I'm noticing in you and observing or at least from just these. Oh God. No, in a good way. In a good way. It's all good. I was just saying it's like it feels like no matter what's happening in your orbit, there's this pillar of belief that it's important to be happy. Yeah. That's like this core center belief in your life for it's important to be happy.
Starting point is 00:32:11 It's important to be happy. That has to be the goal. For sure. And, you know, it's not always easy. We live in such an interesting industry and in such an interesting time with social media that it can be very hard sometimes, you can fall victim to so many things that don't serve you and that don't make you happy. If your happiness depends on the actions of others, you know, you're at mercy of things
Starting point is 00:32:44 that you can't control. And that's never where I want to be. So I always want to live in like me and my therapist talk about like my higher goddess, my higher self. Like I always want to live there knowing that, you know, when I'm there, you can't take that away from me. That's mine. And no matter what you can disagree with me, you can agree with me. That's not going, my, I'm not changing. I'm not shifting. I'm here. I'm in my higher goddess. So I kind of, I always live by like, keep holding my happiness and not letting anyone else affect it. And though I fall victim to it at times, we as we all probably do, I, I strive every day to live in that place.
Starting point is 00:33:27 What are some of the qualities of your higher goddess? That kind of avatar. She's awesome. Like I said, I don't love a pity party. I also sometimes it feels weird to say good things about yourself, but I've also learned a lot about talking to myself and a lot about looking in the mirror and being like, you're great, you're gorgeous, you're amazing, you're loyal, you're positive, so many, like I love words of affirmation, I love just sitting there and reassuring myself of who I am because that's another thing for me, you know, There's so many false narratives about me, about all of us I'm sure,
Starting point is 00:34:06 like so many people think they have you figured out when they don't even know the half of it. So sitting there and being like, you know, you get frustrated sometimes. It could feel really unfair. You could be reading something that someone is saying about you or hearing something that someone's saying about you and being like, that is so unfair
Starting point is 00:34:24 because that's not who I am. And that really gets to me sometimes and that really sucks. But then looking at myself in the mirror and being like, but I know who I am. And that's all, why does anything else matter? And my friends know who I am. And my family knows who I am. My dog knows who I am.
Starting point is 00:34:39 My horse knows who I am. Like, why does anything else is just noise? I do this exercise. I don't think I've shed this just noise? I do this exercise. I don't think I've shared this before, but I do this exercise with some of my clients where we're going to walk and we'll be on a hike wherever we are. And I'll ask them what they think, a piece of, you know, maybe there's a little leaf or maybe there's some flour or something that looks a little unique on the path. And I'll say, what do you think that feels like?
Starting point is 00:35:05 And what do you think it would feel like if you picked it up in your hand? And they'll be like, oh, it looks really rough and it might scratch me and it looks like a bit uneven or whatever and it looks kind of hard and strong. And then I'll ask them to pick it up. And nine times out of 10, it's completely different. Like, they'll pick it up and it'll just dissolve in their hands.
Starting point is 00:35:26 Or they'll turn it over and the colors really soft. Sorry, the shapes really soft and the colors totally different on the other side. And I do that exercise to help us realize just how multifaceted humans are. Today I've got to meet you and obviously we're spending a lot of deep, intonate, vulnerable time together. So, you learn faster about someone, but if someone only follows someone on social media, or only sees someone at an event, or only sees one interview, it's so easy to create such a singular view of someone. And I think, and I want to say this because I really think we all feel it.
Starting point is 00:35:58 I don't think anyone wants to be seen in a singular way. If you had to choose one word that had to be you for the rest of your life, I don't think anyone wants that. I think we all know that we're messy and complex and different. Of course. But we like to put someone else in a box, whoever that may be, because it's easier than to live life and say, okay, well, that's Persons A, B. Right. You know, so this is beautiful piece of wisdom that I always share from Charles Horton Koolie and he wrote this in 1890. I think it was, which just shows how true this has been for such a long time and obviously long before that as well. And he said, the challenge today is, I'm not what I think I am. I'm not what you think I am. I am what I think you think I am. And we'll let that blow over and it's mine.
Starting point is 00:36:50 I think it's Rachel. Every time I say, Charles Horton Kouley said, the challenge today is I'm not what I think I am. I'm not what you think I am. I am what I think you think I am. And what he's trying to say is that we live in a perception of a perception of ourselves. So if I think you think I'm smart,
Starting point is 00:37:10 then I allow myself to feel smart. Right. It's like we need that validation. We need that validation. Or if I think you think I'm not smart, then I feel her. Yeah. And the challenge is I don't know what you're thinking
Starting point is 00:37:22 at all, especially outside in the world. And so I find out what you're saying around like well, what do I think about myself? Like how do I feel about myself? How do the people that actually know me feel about me? I think that's really empowering. I wanted to ask you because I feel like From from what I've seen and from what I've heard you have you have great friendships You have a great relationship with your families. You said like what do you think have been really great habits or traits in relationships that have helped you build up good friendships and family relationships? Because I think for so many people, sometimes their friendships and their family can often be
Starting point is 00:37:53 the most difficult part. But I feel like the way you communicate or the way you're talking about I'm like, okay, there's some really good habits in place here. Have there been any principles or rules that you've learned along the way that have been helpful? I mean, of course honesty, I'm a big person on like keeping a really honest, healthy, communicative relationship. But I also think like, I find it really important to have not feel like you're on top of each other when you have your family around or your friends around. It's okay to like sometimes, even if you're at like a family dinner running to the bathroom and just be like,
Starting point is 00:38:29 let me just take a couple breaths because this is getting overwhelming. That's a great one. So I just love to like take a second. My feelings are valid like sometimes my family's a lot, which I bet everyone all already knows. So just don't ever spend it. Everyone's family members have a sense of crazy to them. But I think that I can get really overwhelmed really easily. I am prone to just, you know, a good amount of anxiety and just being extremely overwhelmed
Starting point is 00:38:55 and kind of taking everything too seriously sometimes. So I like to just step away sometimes and just be like, this is okay. I'm allowed to feel this way, it's valid. I'm just gonna take a deep breath and I'm not gonna react and then I'm gonna go back out there and I'm gonna this way. It's valid. I'm just going to take a deep breath and I'm not going to react. And then I'm going to go back out there and I'm going to be fine.
Starting point is 00:39:07 That's a great idea. Sometimes I do that. I love that. I love how easy it is. You don't need to learn a new meditation practice or new thing. Sometimes it's as simple as that. Yeah, it's as simple as that.
Starting point is 00:39:17 I love that. I, you know, one of the things that, you know, which really touched my heart when I saw this, because I think when things happen in culture and everyone talks about it, but sometimes you're like, okay, well, I can tell that there's a real connection here, like when you lost Virgil, right? Like that, when I saw your message and what you spoke about it, I was like, wow, this is someone who had a really deep connection with this individual. And going through grief is really, really tough. Like, you know, people who lose, and I lost two really close people to me during the pandemic.
Starting point is 00:39:47 I'm sorry. One was, thank you. One was, one was my spiritual teacher since I was 12 years old. And he died of stage four brain cancer, and I hadn't seen him during the pandemic. I couldn't go back for his, because that was still when it was like, it's like, it's going to come down.
Starting point is 00:40:00 So I couldn't go back for his funeral. And, you know, he'd been the person who'd been such a key piece in my life. And then the other person, pretty much in the same year, was my best friend as a monk. So he was still a monk. And he, having to get cancer and he passed away during the pandemic, I couldn't see him either. And he was my age. And so to lose someone that was, you know, and he was still there.
Starting point is 00:40:22 And so, yeah. And so, and so when I saw your, you know, your wonderful tribute to Virgil that was, you know, and he was still there. And so, yeah. And so when I saw your wonderful tribute to Virgil as well, I was like, you know, how do you process something like that when, you know, it's not only industry friends, but genuine friendship beyond that. And just how do, yeah, well, my first thought here is, why is it always the best people? Like why is it always these people that are just such balls of light and everyone's life?
Starting point is 00:40:47 It's like so, you just think about it and you're like, this is so unfair and you're going through every emotion. And to be honest, it was really shocking because not everyone knew what he was going through and suffering from. So it was really shocking. I'll never forget the day I found out. It just absolutely obviously breaks your heart. And you can't help but be like, oh my god, did I ever say enough? Did I ever tell him enough? It's really interesting to share that feeling with so many people. It feels good in a way and you're just like every what it makes you feel so human and you're
Starting point is 00:41:30 sharing this emotion with people that knew him, people that didn't know him, people that just loved him from afar. And it's just a really beautiful and incredible thing to a certain degree, but then also just obviously the most devastating thing. It hits so hard when so many people are talking about it and so many people are affected by it. So it was definitely a really shocking, really sad time. Yeah, it was, yeah. Yeah, and it's really interesting what you said there is like, and I had that with my spiritual teacher for sure. It's just like, like he was, you know,
Starting point is 00:42:09 and what's really powerful about what I could at least remember from him at that time was that even though he had stage for brain cancer, which means he'd lost his short-term memory. And a lot of his long-term memory is impaired. If you haven't met him, he would just thank you for your service to God. Like he would just say thank you
Starting point is 00:42:27 for everything you're doing for other people and he would just be grateful. And I was just like, That's exactly how V was too. He was the most positive, lived life, like appreciative, wanted to say yes to everything,
Starting point is 00:42:43 wanted to just be there for everyone. You could literally ask him to design a pencil for you and he would be like, it'll be done tomorrow. What else do you need? Like, he just had so much to give and he gave it. And that wasn't, that was pre his diagnosis. That was like, that was just who Virgil was. And so to then find out what he found out
Starting point is 00:43:07 at a certain point in his life and still be that person, it's still like, I'm gonna show up for everyone. And like, my time here is so special to all these other people and I'm going to like be here to make them feel amazing. It's just like unreal. Like it makes you just be like, what? Like how? How could you be that like, what? Yeah. Like how? You're saying, how could you be that incredible in giving? That is so crazy. There wasn't a selfish bone in that man's body.
Starting point is 00:43:32 Like he was just the best. Yeah. And I'm sorry to hear about your. Oh no, no. I think it's actually nice speaking about people that we both love in a similar way, even though they're in such different places in life doing very different things.
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Starting point is 00:46:54 at least with grief, that I feel like when I talk about the beautiful qualities of the people that I lost, it gives me so much confidence that they want me to live it and they want me to try and embody it and that how fortunate we are to have experienced that type of humanity. Yeah. And those are my thoughts of him. Like, I think all we ever really want is human beings is to be, you know, when we do leave this earth, we want to be remembered so beautifully and positively, positively, I know at least I do, of course,
Starting point is 00:47:25 but like, you just want, you of course want to make people feel something. And he made so many people feel something. And for that, it is so special. What do they say that we have our purpose here? And I know that he fulfilled a purpose here that he was supposed to fulfill. And I think that that's, I think about it beautifully. Like I obviously it's a very very sad situation and it breaks my
Starting point is 00:47:50 heart but I have nothing but beautiful thoughts of him and I think that's really cool and really special. Yeah thank you for sharing that too. I had to ask you because yeah I just I feel I love hearing amazing things about amazing people that you know because I think so many, things about amazing people that, you know, because I think so many of the most incredible people I grew up reading about people that I never met. And I spent a lot of my life studying books about people that I never met, some Malcolm X and Martin Luther King
Starting point is 00:48:16 and Einstein and people that I really see as, people that have directed so much of my life from how they lived. And I feel like he was potentially one of those people that I never met him, but whenever I hear about him, I'm just like, this is someone that we could learn from. You spoke about purpose there. I was wondering how is your purpose changed?
Starting point is 00:48:35 Do you have this very confident view of, I wanna be a mono, you've superseded, exceeded and continued to flourish in that world? And I always wish that you do. How is your purpose evolved as that time's gone on? I think I've learned a lot. I've learned a lot about myself, about what I want from my life,
Starting point is 00:48:54 and which is kind of what we've been talking about, but I'm actually really excited to get older, and to learn so much more about not only myself, but like the journey and the path that I guess want to take and want to be on. So I'd say, you know, my purpose has evolved from obviously within business doing what I want to do and making sure I'm happy and finding the thing that I love and all those things. happy and finding the thing that I love and all those things. But I've kind of like I said really tuned into me and I think my purpose at least at this very moment and what I've kind of evolved into is my higher goddess. Like I am determined to tune into her at all times.
Starting point is 00:49:37 But also as I get older I have so much that I want to connect with other people and with, you know, aka social media and people that may not know me personally, and just, you know, the following. Like I said, I was given this life for some reason. For whatever reason, I was placed here and I do feel a purpose to share and connect and put a smile on people's faces or make someone feel a positive feeling. And so I think that within me wanting to achieve me tuning into my higher goddess, I think that also entails me being a great version of myself for other people to then experience
Starting point is 00:50:21 and my tips and my tools and whatever I can share, whatever help I can give. I really, you know, as corny as it sounds, I want to spread love, like I want people to feel love. That's really, I guess, the purpose. Yeah, that's, that's beautiful. I mean, what more can you ask for? Right. Yeah, and it is funny that so much of the stuff that is corny or, you know, whatever, that's the stuff that's true. Right. That's the stuff that is corny or whatever, that's the stuff that's true. Right.
Starting point is 00:50:45 That's the stuff. It is. There's also just, we all just live in such a, it's an interesting time, obviously, and it can feel really negative. And I tend to stay off of platforms like social media platforms because it's hard to look at sometimes and it feels really negative. So I feel like we all just need a little bit less miles sometimes. I agree. I agree. I I post these videos every day,
Starting point is 00:51:10 which are just these fun silly things that happen to me, that my my team will find I'll find. And I post them every day literally for that reason and that reason only because I'm like, I may or may say, may or may not say something that makes someone smile. But this definitely is this without a doubt. doubt will bring some joy to someone's life. And if this is the only joy that someone experienced, I want them to see good in the world. And believe that there's good in the world.
Starting point is 00:51:34 That's one of my favorite things to see on TikTok when I sit in my bed at night and fall victim to TikTok. I love to see, there's people that I'll post like, here's like five amazing facts that have happened in the world in the last couple weeks or whatever and it'll be like, you know, pandas are not extinct anymore and like the great barrier reef is coming back and stuff like that and so I'm like, that's so cool.
Starting point is 00:51:56 That's what I want to hear. Exactly and you know, if it was like, it's going down, it's like, it's gonna get a lot of likes and hits but if it's going up, it doesn't get some attention. Yeah. Why do we gravitate towards the negative so much? Like, no.
Starting point is 00:52:10 Very interesting. We have to retrain, I genuinely believe it's just a pattern. It's a pattern and a habit that's been a dose. Absolutely. Absolutely. And we have to retrain ourselves. The clickbait of it all and the whole thing. And we're like, that's going downhill.
Starting point is 00:52:25 I need to see what's happening. And we just like, we do need to retrain our brains. It's exactly what it is. Yeah. And it starts with what you said earlier. It starts with how we see ourselves. It is all from that. If someone looks in the mirror, as you were saying earlier, or if someone just reflects on themselves,
Starting point is 00:52:40 not in them physically, but just internally, most of us will spot all the negative things about ourselves. And then we take that out into the world and spot all the negative things about everyone else. And then we take that out into social media. Right. So that just propels from if you all are reflection of it. Yeah. If we ask someone to sit down and write down, as you said, we feel uncomfortable taking a compliment or we feel uncomfortable saying saying nice about ourselves. Exactly. and so it all starts with our relationship with ourselves. If we were able to find three good things about ourselves today, I promise you,
Starting point is 00:53:14 you're going to find three good things about the person sitting in front of you and that will... Right, exactly. I do a lot of inner child work with my therapist. There's actually a trend on TikTok that was going around, but coincidentally enough, we ended up naturally speaking about it in my session. It was like this trend on TikTok, I guess, that was like a girl being like anytime you're being mean to yourself, just think this is who you're talking about and then it flashes to a photo of her as a kid. In my therapist, we're talking about something similar and she was like, why don't you find like a photo of yourself and put it on your bathroom mirror so that every
Starting point is 00:53:53 morning, every night, every day when you walk into your bathroom mirror, you're looking at her and you're remembering that if there's anything negative that you're ever saying about yourself, if you ever being mean to yourself, you're talking about her. And so I did that and I went into my, I went into like my memorabilia closet in my house and I was looking through old like photo books and I've seen these photo books my whole life. I've literally seen every photo that's been in here and I like flipped to a page and there was a photo I'd never seen of myself ever. It was a Polaroid so it was the original photo and it was just me as a little girl with a bow in my hair out
Starting point is 00:54:25 and a dress on and I have like a little alien tattoo or something right here and I'm like have this big cheesy smile on my face and I was like that's the photo I'm putting on my thing. I can show you the photo later, I have a picture of it on my phone but um so I pasted it on my bathroom mirror and I talked to her and I'm always like if I'm ever looking in the mirror and being negative towards myself or anything, I always look right over to her and I'm like, she's dope. And I love her. And so it's just another way of just self-love. I love that, that's such a great tool.
Starting point is 00:54:54 That's such a great tool. My team found a kid picture of me and made an embarrassing version of that trend. So I'll show you that too. Oh awesome. Okay, so you know it. Yeah, exactly. And exactly.
Starting point is 00:55:03 Perfect. So you know, you say earlier that you wanted to come here and you, you wanted to share and you manifested and you, there were things you wanted to share. What is it that's on your heart that you've wanted to share that maybe we didn't go there today already or is there something on your mind and heart as an experience or a, any, anything that really drew you here and made this happen, right? Like, I want to honor that. I think we've, obviously, we've honestly touched a lot
Starting point is 00:55:28 of what I felt like I would have loved to get off my heart. I don't know. I was really excited, honestly, to come here and share a little bit of me that I feel is very sometimes scary for me to share. And like I said, I came in here and I was a little nervous because this is important to me.
Starting point is 00:55:47 And like this part of everyone's journey and what we're talking about today is it's so important. I really, that was, I guess, my intention here today was to come in and share a little bit of me and maybe for whoever's watching, they find some comfort in this or some joy from this. Or they understand me a little bit more, you know what I mean. So I think that we've hit a lot of really cool points.
Starting point is 00:56:12 And yeah, I mean, I feel really good. Good. I wanted to honor that. I asked that because, you know, I think when you feel you're in that flow with someone, and yeah, I feel like, you know, we've learned so many new things about you today and there's so many moments where I'm like, I just feel like you're so comfortable and you've been so open with us, but I just wanted to honor that. Thank you. Make sure that you feel that you've really felt heard and seen.
Starting point is 00:56:35 I appreciate that. Thank you. So, I hope so. We all want to just be understood at the end of the day. Yeah. I think the closer you get to people, humans, the closer you get to people of different backgrounds and different walks of life, the more you start to recognize how similar we all are. Yeah, exactly. And how many challenges we all share, despite how
Starting point is 00:56:58 much money someone has in the bank, despite how much fame someone has, despite how much follows someone has. And what we find is that everyone feels their own guilt for where they are. Everyone feels their own pressure for where they are. Everyone feels their own challenge for where they are. And you just start to realize that we all have the same emotions in different mixes. A good way to learn about a place
Starting point is 00:57:19 is to talk to the people that live there. There's just this sexy vibe, a Montreal, this pulse, this energy. But what has been seen as a very snotty city, people call it bozangeless. New Orleans is a town that never forgets its pay. A great way to get to know a place is to get invited to a dinner party. Hi, I'm Brendan Francis Newdum,
Starting point is 00:57:39 and not lost as my new travel podcast, where a friend and I go places, see the sights, and try to finagle our way into a dinner party, where kind of trying I go places, see the sights, and try to finagle our way into a dinner party. We're kind of trying to get invited to a dinner party. It doesn't always work out. I would love that, but I have like a Chihuahua who is aggressive towards strangers.
Starting point is 00:57:54 I love the dogs. We learn about the places we're visiting, yes, but we also learn about ourselves. I don't spend as much time thinking about how I'm gonna die alone when I'm traveling, but I get to travel with someone I love. Oh, see, I love you too. And also, we get to eat as much...
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Starting point is 01:00:01 podcast highlighting women you may not have heard of, but definitely should know about. I'm your host, Jenny Kaplan, and for me, diving into these stories is the best part of my day. I learned something new about women from around the world and leave feeling amazed, inspired, and sometimes shocked. Listen on the I Heart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Yeah, we're all just having a human experience. Exactly. app, Apple podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Yeah, we're all just having a human experience. Exactly.
Starting point is 01:00:28 We're all just going day by day. I think we all need to be a little bit kind or do each other and just take it easy on some people. Yeah. Because we are. We're all, we all have our own struggles and I don't know. I'm an empath. So I like to feel for things and I feel for know. I'm an empath, so I feel for things
Starting point is 01:00:45 and I feel for people and yeah. Yeah, and it starts with you. The person, yeah, it starts with you. Exactly, I thought you met me. I was like, I don't know, I don't have enough power. I was like, thank you for that. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no kinder to yourself, chances are you're going to be, I found that the days I stopped judging myself, I stopped judging others because it changed how I saw humanities. So, Kendra, we end every on purpose episode with a final five, which is a fast five round.
Starting point is 01:01:19 I ask you a question and you answer it with one word or one sentence maximum. Okay. So it's super quick and true. And we have to whisk you away because you need to go to your next appointment. But okay, so the first question is, what's something you're curious about right now? Oh, I am super curious about, I was saying how I love Michael Singer
Starting point is 01:01:43 and I think what I really love, I'm reading their Surrender experiment right now, and I'm only in the first couple chapters, so he's basically, this is not a quick answer. It's great, I love it, no, please, please. He's basically at the first part of the book where he's talking about how he was curious about meditation and how he got into meditation
Starting point is 01:02:00 and how he really just was on a trip with his friends and his girlfriend in the woods and sat in a corner or sat at a tree and was like, I'm gonna just really dive into this and see what happens. That's what I'm curious about right now. It's just actually like I'm meditated, I do a lot of breathing work, breathing exercises, and I just really want to tap in like Michael Singer did. I love that. That's a great answer. That's a great answer. A second question, if there's anything that you're working on personally right now, what are you working on on yourself? Is there any?
Starting point is 01:02:27 Yes. I'm working on boundaries and I'm working on not a stressor. Like I can stress about things in my mind and I over think and I just, so I'm really working on like calming down and just letting things flow better and not being so controlling over things, especially that I can't control. Love it. So question number three, what's your favorite thing about founding 818? Ooh, um. Being an entrepreneur, being a founder.
Starting point is 01:02:58 Probably that. Like I, I, you know, was a model and I worked for people a lot. I kind of love being my own boss and really being able to have my own creative, a place where I can be creative and just really express my creativity and have so much fun doing all of that creative stuff. And I've learned so much and learning about the culture and learning about the tequila and everything. Like I've just had the best time, so. I love that.
Starting point is 01:03:26 Question number four, what's something you used to value, but you don't value anymore? Validation. Mm. Great answer. I don't care anymore. Great answer.
Starting point is 01:03:37 At least I'm telling myself that. Yes, yeah, well we have to make it a thought first. Right, yeah. No, but it's true. Like I used to care so much more about validation. I really don't care anymore. At least that's what I'd be feeling. Thank you.
Starting point is 01:03:49 A fifth and final question. If you could create one law that everyone in the world had to follow, what would it be? Ooh, I would do like, on like a Sunday, you have to take half the day and like, not look at your phone or something. That's great, I love that. That's your legit law. That's great.
Starting point is 01:04:06 Right. Yeah. We're kind of nice or the full day. Or the full day. We're being really crazy. I love that idea. I love that. Kendall Jenner everyone. This was amazing. Kendall, this.
Starting point is 01:04:15 Thank you. Honestly, and I'm excited to catch up afterwards too. Yeah. There's just so much flow and synergy in this whole thing happening. And I couldn't thank you more for doing this with me here on on purpose and I hope that this is the first of many times that will do this But I hope it's the beginning of a beautiful friendship for sure in relationship and I want to everyone who's been listening or watching back at home Please let me and kind of know tag us letting us know what resonated with you what connected with you like
Starting point is 01:04:43 What was it that you've got curious about or what was something she said that just shifted your perspective or where you learned something new. I'd love to hear it. I know there were tons of moments for me where I was listening going, this is amazing. This is incredible. This is awesome. So any wisdom nuggets that stuck out to you, please let us know because I love seeing what made a difference in your life as well. And a big thank you to Kendall for opening our heart and opening up our minds. Thank you. I'm honored. Thank you so much.
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