On Purpose with Jay Shetty - Lilly Singh: ON Why She Took A Break From YouTube
Episode Date: March 4, 2019You can order my new book 8 RULES OF LOVE at 8rulesoflove.com or at a retail store near you. You can also get the chance to see me live on my first ever world tour. This is a 90 minute interactive sho...w where I will take you on a journey of finding, keeping and even letting go of love. Head to jayshettytour.com and find out if I'll be in a city near you. Thank you so much for all your support - I hope to see you soon.Being a YouTube creator can be difficult for anyone, but Lilly Singh really is superwoman. Despite the success, things haven’t always been easy for Lilly. She opens up about everything: how it feels when being called a role model, her relationships both personal and professional, even her struggles with depression and defining what success looks like in her life. Today’s conversation is a deep dive into what drives her to keep creating at such a prolific level and why she’s determined to keep using her influence for positive social change.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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This desire to not waste time and not waste opportunities and not waste this life is
honestly what drives me.
Because I know what it feels like to not like life.
So I don't wanna go back to that place.
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We've got over a thousand five-star reviews.
I'm genuinely so grateful for all the love and support.
And I'm so excited to introduce to her
a next guest. Today's guest is none other than Lillie Singh aka superwoman, the incredible
youtube phenomenon. Now I've been a huge fan of hers for a very long time. She's got a super
kind heart. She's incredibly motivated and hardworking and on top of all of that
She's someone who really wants to have a deep impact in the world. The incredible thing about Lily is that despite her
Amazing success she stays so grounded and so humble and so accessible and she had so many refreshing
Insight about building the right community, finding the
right friends, building meaningful relationships, and I can't wait for you to hear her perspective.
Of course we all know her as a super hilarious, funny comedian and involved in so many incredible
projects, but she's also such a huge change maker, having such an incredible impact
through all of her work
around girl power.
Please welcome to the show, my good friend and someone I can't wait for you to connect
with Lily Singh.
I am so excited to be talking to you today.
I can't believe it.
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I can't wait to see you this year.
I am genuinely so excited and grateful
to introduce this next guest to you.
She's a multi-faceted comedian, entertainer,
and actress, and the founder of Girl Love.
She's actually won pretty much every award I can think of.
Sometimes I think she doesn't need an introduction,
but I want to share a bit more about her.
She's collaborated with everyone from the rock to Bill Gates to Will Smith to Selena Gomez.
The list goes on and on and on. She's launched her own book. She's launched her merchandise.
She's launched an incredible show and now her production company. Her name is none other than Lily
Singh, aka Superwoman.
And beyond all these incredible achievements,
she's someone that I've admired and watched
from a distance for so very long,
been a fan and a follower.
But she's so genuine, so down to earth,
such an incredible energy to be around.
And I can't wait for you to experience this amazing human.
Lily, thank you for being here.
How much did my publicists pay you to say all of those things?
That wonderful.
Quite a lot, quite a lot actually.
Yeah, so I'm the best introvert.
I'm so happy to be here.
And the feeling so mutual, J is phenomenal.
And I would be the world's the right here right now with you.
You're the sweetest, you're the sweetest.
And I genuinely feel this, like when I was looking through
your bio, when you look at everything you've achieved,
and I know you've worked incredibly hard for it,
and I know it hasn't come freely, cheaply,
or by luck, it's been so much hard work from your side.
But I wanna ask you,
out of all your successes, all your achievements,
what's been the most meaningful thing for you?
Woo, that's a tough question.
Besides this moment right here, sitting with you.
Hahaha.
Um, this, you know, I used to be embarrassed with this answer,
but I've decided I'm now deciding I'm not embarrassed
by this answer.
This is my answer, okay.
My answer is collaborating with the rock.
That is honest, and I know that seems kind of like
surface level basic, but I'll tell you why.
When I was younger, he was my biggest inspiration.
Like I wish I could take you back to little Lily's bedroom
with posters of the rock all over my first email address
was the rock 85. And I'm gonna call him, just obsessed on the announcements when they'd call my name in
elementary school. They say Lily the rock saying like literally it was an obsession. So they always say
don't meet your idols because they might not be who you want them to be. He is so incredible and not
only getting to work with him and meet him, but just having him as a mentor who kind of like guides
me and gives me a good advice. It's been a dream come true to know that this person
I looked up to for so long is such a great human being.
So that's really important.
And I think that's a beautiful answer.
I don't judge you for a tour.
I think it's incredible when your 15 year old self
would high five you for something, right?
Yeah, yeah, that's amazing.
And it's not only the vanity of like,
he's so cool and famous and the rock,
and he's so hot, he's very hot.
But it's also just like, oh, this person has proven to you that you can work really hard,
and be really successful, really rich, really famous, really nice.
And I think that's the greatest lesson you taught me, is you can still be a good person,
even if you have all those things.
And you've built a real relationship, yes.
Like, that's the most special thing too.
I feel like it's not just...
Yeah, Michael is just to build enough of a relationship with him
where in our next life we get married.
So I'm really trying to like,
pave that foundation.
I love it.
It seems to be going well.
I mean, yeah.
I feel good about it.
I love it.
I used to be a huge rock fan too.
I remember reading his autobiography.
Used to be.
He used to be.
He used to list.
Yeah, still is.
I mean, like, when I was 15, 16,
I remember reading his autobiography
and just being blown away.
Oh yeah, I had it too, I wrapped it in surround wrap.
You did, okay, I didn't go that far.
But I remember being one of,
it was one of the first books I actually read.
Yeah.
And it was just,
and I only read it because I was so into wrestling
and I was like, wow, let me get this book
and it was just mind blowing.
I couldn't believe it that there was so much
to someone that I just was in wrestling.
Mm-hmm, 100%.
Amazing, we love you the right.
We love you, this is why I'm here.
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I'm gonna say, I'm gonna say, I'm gonna say, I'm gonna say,
I'm gonna say, I'm gonna say, I'm gonna say, I'm gonna say,
I'm gonna say, I'm gonna say, I'm gonna say, I'm gonna say, I'm gonna say, I'm gonna say, I'm gonna say, Lillian side, me going, oh my God, I can't believe you're doing that. I never want to be in the position of life
where things don't excite me or make me nervous.
People ask me all the time,
are you still nervous before you go on stage
or are you still nervous to shoot
with this person or meet with this person?
I hope for as long as possible, my answer can be yes.
Because if it's not, then like, what's the point?
I want to be nervous and excited.
Talk to you.
There's a challenge of life disappearing, you know?
Yeah, I love that.
I was so nervous when we came to film the collab of a Christmas, you know? Yeah, I love that.
I was so nervous when we came to film the collab
of a Christmas movie.
Oh, no, I was so nervous.
I was so nervous.
I was so nervous.
I was like, I've loved you for so long
of watching video videos for so long.
Like, you're a pro.
Oh my God.
And I was just like literally.
Jake and my house and literally did 100 times better
than me and was 100 times more professional.
That's what happened.
True.
But no, I believe in that as well.
Like, even now when I'm speaking, and I've keynotings been probably the biggest part
of my life for the last 13 years.
And every time I go on stage,
like someone would say to me,
I'll you know something, yes, I'm nervous.
I totally get what you're saying.
I mean, you care.
I never want to stop caring.
If I'm not super nervous,
that means I don't care about the outcome.
And I always want to care about the outcome.
I love that.
And I completely agree with you.
Totally aligned.
I wanted to go back a bit.
Back to the same person, where I was a monk.
You are a monk, and I am a monk.
We're the same level of walkeness.
That's what, well, I really want you to take away from this.
I, yeah, I want everyone to talk to me.
I agree.
But Jay came to my house and did a B2K move.
He kept doing this weird thing with his hands and like,
weird.
Why do you keep doing this?
I'm doing cool.
Sorry, we went, brrrr, you kept doing this cool thing with his hands.
And I was like, what are you doing?
Can you just do it again for a second?
No, I can't do it with a mic in front of me.
It's harder.
It's an excuse.
It gets to me.
And then he's like, it's a B2K movement.
I'm like, we're gonna, we're best friends.
Yeah, Anderson Sins and so many other things.
Yeah, anyway, anyway, anyway, yeah, back to you.
Back to you.
I want to go back because I know you've talked about this.
I've had you talk about it in different places.
I think it's important for us to do
seeing as we both share agent parents.
I wanna talk about your relationship with your parents
and how that has evolved over the years
of seeing you start doing something
that was obviously not something that agent parents
wish their kids to do.
Oh yeah, no, they were thrilled.
Yeah, to now them being famous from it.
Right.
Well, I mean, when I first told my,
I always say, I'm very fortunate
because when I first told my parents
I wanna make YouTube videos,
they just didn't understand what I meant.
You know, they were like, no, there's no way,
you're not allowed.
They didn't give me the typical answer
of what will people think,
which is generally what Asian people say.
Sure.
They were just confused.
They're like, what do you mean?
And I said, there's a cycle of YouTube
and making videos, give me a year.
They said you have a year to try this out.
It doesn't work.
We want you to go to graduate school
but you have a year.
So that gave me a countdown
to really just teach myself how to edit,
teach myself how to use a camera.
I have a green site,
so I didn't have any of this stuff.
Truly, I researched, figured out how to edit on eye movie.
Like, I was made a tripod out of books,
did all the things.
Fortunately, it went somewhere.
And so my parents are very supportive now today
because it went somewhere.
But I've always said, my parents never said no
to me doing this.
And that's a really big deal.
Because it's scary.
Now, I always, parents just want to make sure
you're gonna be okay.
You know, when I was younger, I was like,
my parents just don't want me happy.
That's what they say, no,
but no, when you've helped me realize,
your parents just want you to be okay.
They want to know that we came to this country.
I want to make sure she's gonna have a good living
and be financially stable.
And that's all they're concerned about, really.
And once they saw that I could be,
they were like, okay, we can stop stressing out about this.
Yeah, I love that.
And we need more parents to be that way, I guess.
Yeah. I love the idea of them just giving you a window. And I think it's, I honestly think it stop stressing out about this. Yeah, I love that. And we need more parents to be that way, I guess.
Yeah.
I love the idea of them just giving you a way to.
And I think it's, I honestly think it goes two ways though.
And I think this has come with age, like I said,
really putting yourself in your parents' shoes
is something that I learned,
especially when I moved to LA.
You know, I was the first person in my family
to move to another country for work.
It's not because I got married, it was for work.
And so that was a really big deal,
especially as an Indian woman, a huge, huge deal.
And the more I had to, the more I grew up in the more
I moved away from my family,
I realized why they do the things they do,
why they say the things they do,
and why they think the way they think.
And it's, they're from a different time and place
and they're honestly trying their best.
And they've done a great job.
So when every time we do have a little bit of friction,
I have to remember that this is all very different from what you were used to
So I get why me making videos on the internet is scary like I have to accept that, you know
You're so woke. I try. See here we go
This is I mean what you're saying is so beautiful. There's there's an amazing statement that I remember I can't remember where it's from but it's
The day you realize your parents are right your kids are telling you that you're wrong
You have kids you're gonna see and. No, you're kind of sad. And my mom always said that to me. Oh, really?
So you have kids.
You're good to see.
And now I have a dog.
So I get it because sometimes I'll be arguing with him
and he's telling me things.
And I'm like, oh my god, my mom was right about this.
So I get it.
No, but I love that refreshing perspective.
I think your spot on as well.
Like I was very fortunate.
My parents have always been extremely open
to every one of my decisions,
even when I took what becoming a monk
and the people were like, well, your parents not just,
and I was like, actually they weren't.
It was just like, make sure you take care of your health
and make sure you take care of yourself.
It was so much more open than you'd believe.
And you're right, when you grow up,
you start valuing that.
No, 100%.
Thank you for that lesson.
Of course, of course.
You're welcome.
You're like dropping lessons here now.
And I think anytime I talk about my parents,
like always without a doubt, get people commenting,
being like, well, my parents just don't get it.
My parents would never support it.
And I don't want to sit here and pretend
like I know everyone's parents are in no-use situation.
They're very well maybe a situation
where the reality of the situation is maybe, yeah,
sometimes the people closest to you can be toxic for your life.
I'm very aware of that reality.
But I do think it's worth that effort
and that genuine effort to really get
to understand why your parents are the way they are,
I think it really helps you understand yourself as well.
I love that.
I really do think that.
So I'm not encouraging anyone to be in a situation
that's toxic to them,
but I just know when I recall from my teenage years,
I used to write off things as toxic all the time,
be like, they just don't get it
without actually even trying to understand. Put yourself in that shoes before. or whenever I recall from my teenage years, I used to write off things as toxic all the time, be like, they just don't get it,
without actually even trying to understand.
Put yourself in their shoes before you write it off.
That's great advice, I love that.
I love that, and I guess it's so much more healing
and liberating too to do it that way around.
Rob is gonna just be like, everyone hates me.
Exactly.
That my parents hate me, like, yeah.
Whatever you say is true.
I've always said you can build your universe
so if you say everyone hates me, then yeah, I've been hates you.
Yeah. You know, that is what it is.
How did you get so wise?
You know, Tumblr quotes.
No, I've had many opportunities
and life to dive deep into my soul.
So I think I've done that several times.
Yeah.
Tell me about some of that.
Yeah, I think.
I think, you know, the reason I started
making YouTube videos in 2010 was
because I was a very sad person.
I was at the end of my university career, I was getting a psych degree.
I didn't like what I was doing in school.
My whole life, I was believed, like I was taught to, okay, you're gonna go to university,
then you're gonna get out of university, you might go to graduate school, you're making a job,
then you'll get married, then you'll have kids, and I just couldn't grasp that very linear way of living.
And so, when I was at the end of my university career,
I was like, oh, well, I'm not ready to do any of those things.
And I actually have no idea what I want to do.
And so I was in a very dark, just sad place.
And so my career on YouTube was founded
through me really digging inside myself
and trying to find something that made me happy.
So the only reason I made YouTube videos
was because I made happy, not because of views or money.
That was the thing. It wasn't a nothing. It was literally to make myself happy
Yeah, so and when I look at you and you can see there's like what's kept you going that long?
Because that's the beauty of it right like then you did it to make you happy
And I know that that's still a big part of your life today, but like what I admire right?
You're the most is like you're still doing it and that's harder
Yeah, I think you know
I've really analyzed what it is.
Because if I'm really really honest,
too much of anything isn't good.
I've honestly learned that.
I loved making YouTube videos.
I still do.
But then I got to a point in my life where I made so many
and it became such a business and such an overbearing job
where I was like, it's not as fun.
And I'm not enjoying it as much.
And I think that happens to everyone
when you're a passion and your job kind of collide like that.
But I forgot where I was going because I had to go to stress.
I was like, oh my God, my life is in jambles.
But I think what it is is that why I've kept going for so long is I'm really obsessed with
the idea of growth.
It's always been a thing.
I really like challenging myself.
I like growing.
And so now that I've, you know, I did the eye movie thing.
Now my life is kind of like, can I build a team?
And you know how passionate I am about my team as well.
And this, can I build a business now?
Can I now increase my social good efforts?
It's always about just growing in some capacity.
So I really think that this desire to not waste time
and not waste opportunities and not waste this life
is honestly what drives me.
Because I know what it feels like to not like life.
Yeah.
So I don't want to go back to that place. I think it's awesome. No, it's so
true. If you're not moving forward, you have to move backwards. Yeah. So it's that kind of
experience of like what he said. What you said is my answer. You gave him much better answer.
I love your answer. You answer amazing. It's amazing because it's it's honest. Like when I'm hearing you,
it's great to hear a creator say I stop loving creating it. So I shifted. Like it's amazing because it's honest. Like when I'm hearing you, it's great to hear a creator say,
I stopped loving creating it so I shifted.
Like it's amazing here.
You being that vulnerable and honest and open
and we are gonna get into that about,
the reason Breakew took from YouTube
and everything like for me,
I fell in love with you more when you said that.
Like I was just like,
that's so special for someone to say that.
Like even me sometimes like,
when I'm saying no to things that I say no to now,
for before I say no, I have to just say,
wait a minute, I would have died to get some tuning one day.
And I have to just be grateful before I say no,
because it's like, if I just say no and I'm like,
oh yeah, now it doesn't matter.
It's like, you're losing that part of your life
that once upon a time, this is what you wanted, right?
Right, and it's such human nature.
Yeah.
I feel like so much of my job is recognizing human nature
and then developing habits that literally go against it.
That's the prime example.
Same with me, there's so many opportunities
that come my way where I'm like,
oh, I don't wanna do this.
Or I don't wanna travel to this place.
Before I would be like dying,
the first person that ever hired me in Shnash was actually
London, first place that ever hired me in Shnash.. Yeah. First place that ever hired me in snatch.
I was over the moon that someone who wanted me to travel.
And now I hear myself being like, oh my God, a trip to some beautiful place that sounds
exhausting.
So I had to like stop myself to be like, whoa, you're being ungrateful.
You need to put yourself back and get a gain a healthy perspective because human nature
does allow us to get used to everything.
You'll get used to everything. You take 100 trips to a vacation destination, you're going to be like,
I'm sick of it. Something you would have really died to do before. So I really think a lot of my job
is just checking myself in those moments and being like, don't do this. Don't go to this natural
pattern of just becoming ungrateful. Yeah. And for anyone listening and watching right now,
that's an awesome tip. Like that's an awesome tip, awesome insight.
I just, whenever you catch yourself,
getting used to something, familiar to something,
a person, a place, something happening in your life,
whatever it may be, you just catch yourself.
Yeah.
And just switch it.
Catching yourself is half the battle.
No one's perfect, but catching yourself,
that's, that's what the real honesty comes in.
Yeah, absolutely.
Yeah, just being aware.
Yeah, absolutely.
And you were talking about social good,
and I wanted to talk about that for a bit,
because, and you've got to remember,
like for me, this is an interesting interview,
because even though we only met last year,
for me, it's like, yeah, I've been watching you for so long.
So it's a very,
this is the best.
For me, that's an interesting point,
because I've kind of been watching from a big distance.
Like we didn't know any,
we didn't have any friends in common,
we haven't known each other.
And I just was like, wow, like, she's using what she's doing
for social good.
And I thought, I would love that.
I was like, wow, like, you're using your platform
for a higher purpose when you don't have to,
whether it's girl love, whether it's unicef,
like all the amazing work you've done.
Tell me where that started, like, where did that come about
in the whole Lilliesing Journey and World?
And how did it become such an integral part?
Yeah, you know, I, when I first started to realize that people are calling me
their role models, I remember I sat down with myself and I was like, interesting.
People are calling me their role model.
I don't, how do I feel about this?
And I made a rule for myself that was, you will never do anything.
That's not genuine to be perceived as a role model.
That was a very big rule for my sanity.
I was like, you can't, your job is so 24-7,
you can't start being like,
I believe in this, this, this, this, to be a role model
if you actually don't.
So my rule has always been to be myself.
Having said that when I garnered such a large audience
and I understood that I had an influence,
I was like, well, I have the opportunity
to also do something positive with this.
And I feel in my heart that if I don't do something positive with it,
it's just a waste of opportunity.
Now, add that with the grudge on my shoulder from being an Indian woman.
And you have this really large desire to help issues around gender equality.
I think that's where my heart lies the most.
A lot of my work is around girls being able to go to school and girls having
equal rights in parts of the world and access to healthcare and all that stuff.
That comes from the fact that, know when I was born a lot of people were unhappy with having an Indian girl
Especially because I've older sisters so we're a family of two sisters and so many people were so sad at my birth
Literally, and so I've had that grudge on my shoulder and I know that quite
Transparency like I can say that very honestly My whole life has kind of been a little bit of
I'm going to prove you wrong and I'm going to and I always say don't work hard to prove people wrong,
prove your lovers right. Instead I always believe in that. Having said that there's a lot of people
suffering because girls are born and and so I do feel a strong passion in my heart to do something
with the following I have. You know, I think that's, the greatest, when you go back to one of my greatest achievements,
the one that's not as shiny as the rock
is actually when I announced my world tour,
the first one, a trip to Unicorn Island,
I may try to do it in India first.
That was important for me to announce it in India,
my parents' motherland.
And I went to Punjab to visit my dad's dad,
my grandfather, and he greeted me with like flower
grounds and he says something to me where I was like, whoa,
probably met him like three times in my life maybe.
And he goes, you know, I was wrong.
You are the girl, the person and a girl in our family
who has had the most success.
And that was like a huge statement for him to make
because I remember what it was like for my mom
when I was born and so why did she talk to me.
But yeah, so that was a really big achievement for me.
That's huge.
Yeah, and I felt it for my mom and mom was like,
that's right.
You know?
And so like, I have that force for my mom.
Like, was like, no, I have a second daughter
and like, she's gonna be awesome
and she believed in me and I just hope
I've done justice to that.
I think you've done so much more.
I think it's amazing to see someone defy cultural traditions
and someone who's, especially, I didn't realize that it was
like somewhat closed off when you were born as well
around the belief of having a girl
at such a relief like blown down.
No, but even me, like, I was just working on writing a script
and that's when I really like dived into my childhood
and I was like, well, I had my wedding entrance song picked out
before I knew what I wanted to do in life.
Like, that's not who I am today,
but as a young girl, that was true.
And it just goes to show how much it was bedded
in my mind that my optimal achievement would be getting married.
You know what I mean?
And so, and so I just don't want to continue that pattern.
So whatever I can do with my following
to teach young girls that,
you can't marry that's great,
congratulations, that's fine,
but that doesn't have to be your defining moment.
You know what I mean, I think that's important.
I agree.
Tell me about some of the stories of the girls you worked
for then amazing things that have happened.
Oh my God, I've, you know what?
Every time I meet a young girl,
I've had the opportunity to go to Sony parts
of Africa, specifically in South Africa, Sony parts of India, and I meet these young girls, so I've had the opportunity to go to so many parts of Africa, specifically in South Africa,
so many parts of India.
And I meet these young girls and they tell me
the stories, I'm like, whoa, you are way more powerful
and cool than I will ever be truly.
Because they do some awesome, awesome stuff.
I just met a girl recently who talked about the fact
that in the community she lived in in South Africa,
they didn't have a certain program in her school.
And so she walked to whoever was in charge of this,
I mean, forgive my lack of terminology,
if whoever was in charge of whatever that school board was,
like 17 hours to go there.
And then once she went there,
they're like, yeah, we'll look into this case
and we'll get back to you and they never did.
So she walked back of like, there's girls doing amazing things in the world that I'm just
blown away.
And it's even more inspiring to me when I hear these stories.
So I think if all of you had opportunities that we all have, like think about the space
the world would be in right now.
All of these amazing people that don't have the resources and don't have the opportunity.
It's just they need it.
The world, I think how many cures we would have,
how many more inventions we would have,
how many solutions we would have,
all those people with brilliant ideas
were empowered with resources.
Especially because they've seen pain so fast.
Oh, no, 100%.
Right, yeah.
I can agree with you more.
That's a beautiful point.
And that's, it's great that you're using your voice
and platform and that they're getting a voice from it too.
Yeah, that's honestly what I want to do.
It's not even about like, girl of being lily is the champ.
It's the people who have the really good ideas.
I wanna just lift their voices
because I have the platform to do it.
It's not about my ideas, it's not about my beliefs,
it's not about me, it's really about just
lifting the voices that don't have a platform.
Absolutely, yeah, I interviewed one girl recently,
who actually doesn't even know her actual age
because she escaped from a child slavery
like space and
We interviewed her on the podcast and I was just like blown away like you know being put into that terrible position and from day one
Not knowing your age like never knowing who your real family are like not even having people to trust and actually not even knowing that you're in a
Bad space and running you know Yeah, that's even knowing that you're in a bad space and running you know
Yeah, that's real not even knowing you're in a bad space. Yeah, as you're not even knowing that that's bad because that has become your normal
Right, right. It's crazy. But yeah, thank you for everything you're doing though
I mean, it's it's truly a team effort is truly it's not only myself and my team
But it is very much so my following as well because I know that there's so many
fan bases online that
Really want entertainment really want to laugh my audience is like that, but they really care as well.
Yeah.
They really, anytime I do a campaign, whether it's a girl lover with Unicefer or with we,
they are really behind it.
And so my following is a lot to think as well.
Yeah, yeah.
Thank you for having a track concert and amazing.
Thank you so much.
Yeah.
Yeah.
It's awesome.
I absolutely love it.
So I want to-
And also my poster is horrible.
So if you're watching this, I apologize.
Lily's being comfortable.
I mean, comfortable.
I'm a posture.
Yeah.
Can you help me fix that?
What do you want to do?
Is there a way to meditate on posture?
We can.
We can talk about that.
Okay, what's our way to do that?
Yeah, we'll bring that in there.
I'm going to try, you have great posture.
Do it?
Yeah.
Oh, thank you.
I think it's all the ballet I did as a kid.
Did you really?
No.
Absolutely.
But my mom tried to get me into it at one point.
I feel like it would be really great at that for some reason.
That's why.
Yeah.
Yeah, I don't think I'd be that good at it.
Next video I did as a cumulist.
Next video.
But I want to talk to you about this, you know, recent announcement that you made around
taking a break from YouTube.
Fine, I'm going to take an anxious gulp of my drink.
Do it.
Do it.
I, when I saw you do that and I think I reached out to you and you did it. I was like, if there
was extremely brave, I thought it was super sincere. It was really genuine, and I looked
at it and I was just like, again, you're just being a real model, like, you know, being
someone that people can look up to, to be able to do that. I can't imagine how hard
that is to do. Like, it's so tough to be able to do that.
And I wanna acknowledge that.
Thank you, thank you.
I wanna recognize that.
Yeah, it's so tough to just turn around
and tell everyone that you're doing this for,
that hey, I'm taking a break,
because I wanna make content with better quality and stuff.
I'm really excited about it.
Like, at the way you explain to you,
I was just like, this is so real.
And I think it's, we live in such a like,
clickbait world of like, people can say anything
on social to get clicks.
And it's like, when I watched that, I was like,
wow, she's been so real.
Like it was just so real.
And I really wanna acknowledge that and recognize that.
Thank you, I appreciate that.
It was really difficult, especially,
it was really difficult because of the obstacles
and reasons I created in my own mind.
My whole brand is also harder, productivity every day,
do as many things as you can. and I believe I believe in working really hard
So for me to then turn around and be like I'm gonna take a break and not work hard was very difficult
Not just from a public standpoint but for even me because there was a voice inside me that was like
Is this because you're lazy or is this because you're making excuses and I had to really learn
As I talked to earlier the word balance. I had to understand and I had to really learn, as I talked to you earlier, the word balance.
I had to understand, I think it really hit me hard
before that break was, I'm not being the best version
of myself because I haven't given myself
that little bit of balance I need.
And so actually if I want to hustle harder,
I need to take this break.
That was the biggest moment of clarity for me.
And so it was really tough for myself.
My fans are super supportive.
But in that break, it was about a month,
it wasn't a super long break,
but in that month, what I allowed myself to do was think.
And I know that sounds very,
don't can't you think, any time,
but the answer was no, because my life was so,
work, work, work, come home,
work, be so tired, go to sleep,
without addressing any of the cloudiness I had in my brain.
There was so many days where I got home
and I was like, this thing is really on my mind,
but okay, I'll deal with it later
because I have to do this email.
I'll deal with it later after I write the script.
And so there were so many of those,
I'll deal with it later that I never dealt with it later.
And so really during my break, I just sat and I thought
and I cleared some stuff in my brain
and I started writing things in my journal.
And I came to the conclusion that, yeah,
I could be happier if I took more time
to create the art I'm so passionate about.
And I've made a whole bunch of changes in my life
that were prompted from that one month break
that I'm very happy about.
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Tell me some of the personal lessons that you've gotten it in that month of things you wanted to change. Yeah, I
You know so funny when people Isn't it showing people you probably do this all the time when people tell you about their problems
You give such a good answer, but you don't apply to yourself
So people will tell me about like fatigue and I'll'll be like, it's okay to take a break,
it's okay to be balanced, like it's okay to re-energize.
It's best part of hustling.
Never did it.
Never took time for anything to do.
I got my nails done during the break,
and I was like, I am such a well-balanced human being right now.
I tweeted about it four times.
Well, I was getting my nails done ruined my nails.
It was a whole thing.
But I think the life lesson I learned was, it does not mean you're being unproductive if you're taking a break.
It actually helps to be more productive. So that is something I've learned. I've also learned that
if you I'm big on loving yourself, I always teach my audience that the most the most difficult
thing you can learn to do in life is love yourself but it's the most important. Loving yourself also means it's okay to
ask for help and say you're not okay. So that was a big thing. I tweeted all
about finding a therapist and all that stuff where before it's not that I
thought it was wrong but I think you know we grew up in a culture with a
little taboo. You know what I mean you hear a lot of older Asian people
being like when we were younger we nothing was ever wrong with us and we didn't
need to.
So I think learning that was a big deal during my break.
And also just like putting priority
into my relationships was something I really,
and that's the thing I say in joke about in my videos
all the time, I'm like, I'm single,
I never have friends, but that's so sad.
I never have friends, I'm not funny.
But I think in that break, I also learn that that takes effort.
And if I'm really honest, I am constantly surrounded by people I pay to be near me.
And so it's also a reality of like you need to foster relationships with people you also
do not pay to be around you.
Your family, my siblings, my friends back home, and you need to know
that they don't work for you. So when they say, Lily, shut up, we're not doing what you
want to do. Like, that's what friendship actually is, you know what I mean? And so I had to
really work on that. Yeah. I also cooked a few more times. Oh, wow. Yeah. These are real
life lessons. Yeah. These are amazing. Thanks. And this, and this, and you're so right, we're
all so great advising everyone else. 100%.
We're all so great at it.
People ask me for advice all the time.
I'm like, okay, here's what you do.
But literally sometimes my life is in shambles, true.
Yeah, I can relate, I can relate.
It's so true.
It happens all the time.
And I think just the fact that you were brave enough to do that, to take that time out,
it's a great lesson for everyone else out there who needs to do the same.
It means.
I just started this year without not doing any work in January at all,
which everyone was like, how can you not work in January?
Like, that's like the year where you got to get going.
And I was like, yeah, because I needed to go in, I needed to meditate,
and I needed to reflect, and I needed to just go and have space.
And I felt it just coming back. I was like, oh my god,
I've got so much more space to be creative now.
And so many more ideas are coming to me and all the rest of it.
And like you said, it's not a substitute. It's not like you're being lazy. space to be creative now and so many more ideas are coming to me and all the rest of it.
And like you said, it's not a substitute, it's not like you're being lazy.
You actually get to come back to do better.
You know what, though Jay, I have to tell you, I don't read all of the comments I get, one
because there's a lot in two because of my sanity.
But I did see a comment when I said this.
I was like, oh, being, taking a break makes you more productive.
And then someone wrote a comment and it really like made me think and their comment was,
that's a really privileged thing to say because people can't take breaks. And it made me
think and I was like, I totally understand this perspective. And so I think, you know, for
the people listening or watching this, if you are, because it is true, we're privileged
sitting here like, oh, we got to take a month off work and cool. But I think it's also just about
if you can take a month off work,
even just taking some more space for your mind
is what I'm trying to get at, you know what I mean?
Absolutely.
Or I came back to work and it's not like,
I'm much happy now because after work
I take time to myself and I'm making decisions
that make me happier.
So I thought that was a really brave comment to make.
Of course, my initial reaction was like, hey, there, but then I was like, no, let me actually
think about this.
And that's really true.
If you're not in a position to be like, oh, let me go away for a month or let me take
a break from work, I still think there's little ways you can balance your life and make
yourself a priority.
There we go.
I love it.
No, you're so right.
Thank you for grounding that actually.
That's a beautiful way of putting it.
And you're right.
And that's the truth of it.
Like, whether it's one hour, whether it's one day a week,
one hour a week, whatever it is, one day a month.
It could be a simple having conversation with someone
that you've been having tension with.
Yeah.
It could be as simple as calling someone you haven't talked
to in a long time and grounding yourself
with an old friend.
It could be very, very simple.
It's just making time for those little actions, I think.
100%.
I love that advice.
That sounds so smart.
You're...
Oh my God.
Geez.
Good job.
I wasn't expecting any less.
Yeah, this is like, no, but it's great.
This is what happens in everyone listening and watching.
This is what happens when you do the work.
Like when you're actually taking a break,
when you actually think about this stuff,
when you're being honest with yourself, the natural.
It's honestly, if I had to pick what,
it's being honest with yourself, it really is.
And I think I learned that the hardest with girl love,
you know, girl love for those of you that don't know
is my social good campaign that's women supporting women.
It was such a hard journey for me because I myself
have caught myself various times competing with other girls
I think it's natural like all of us have this thing inside of us every once in a while
So for me now being like girl love I'm a little girl love I'm wearing the pin right now
But then inside being like oh this girl is like I had to check myself so hard
Wow and really learn how to be honest as much because I was pegged as like the girl on YouTube,
you know, the color girl on YouTube. And I had to believe truly, and I do believe now that it's not
about being number one, it's not about, it's about how many more girls can outdo this because I've
done it. You know what I mean? And so girl love has taught me to like really the most honest way check
yourself. And I think that's what self-care is. I think that's what self-love is.
It's about looking those nasty habits
and thoughts and beliefs you have right in the eye
and being like, I don't hate you for having this,
but we're gonna work on this, you know?
And it's the hardest but the best way.
It is the hardest thing to do.
Yeah, 100%.
It's the toughest thing to do.
How did you, how did you do it in a way
that it didn't bring you down?
Like how did you look at those negative things
and then not start judging yourself
and beating yourself up about it and take yourself down
rather than use it as a way to lift yourself up?
How did you do that?
I think I did it through quite simply changing it.
I think once you identify the parts of yourself
you want to improve, you then have a choice to say,
okay, I'm going to continue to ignore this
or I'm going to make positive change.
So I'm a very pragmatic person.
I believe everything can be like signed
typically to do this, broken down every part of me.
Like you should see me when I'm doing my reflection
like to do, to reflect on.
I'm like very like that.
So when I recognize these things,
I actually write them down.
Like this is a habit you have,
this is a thought you have.
Now what are you going to do to change this?
Step one, two, and three.
And then when I go back, if I haven't done step one, two, and three,
I know who to blame.
I know what the issue is.
There's no mystery there.
It's laid out right in front of me.
And so, when it came to girl love specifically,
when I thought, okay, you are jealous of this situation.
You don't feel adequate.
You're comparing yourself to these girls.
I made actions one, two, and three, one was reach out
to the girl, you're gonna have a conversation
with this girl, two would be,
find out why you feel this way and address that.
So there was very like pragmatic steps on how to,
that's me as a person.
I love that.
I sound like a crazy person.
No, you don't, I'm gonna share something
with you right now.
So when we were monks, we had to do a similar process
in a sense of like getting over,
so we would identify what was wrong with us. So things like ego, pride, envy, lust, greed, anger,
like the common things that we all deal with. Wait, greed is bad. Yeah. I know. Yeah, sorry.
You've got to go to a monk school to recognize that one. But we literally would write down our
internal default dialogue. Like what do we say to ourselves when we feel envy,
for example, is like,
oh, why does he have that, or she has that better than me?
So we write down exactly what we say.
And then we'd have to replace it
with a new fresh internal dialogue.
So we actually write out what we wanted to think.
So same as your three action things.
Like what do I want to think when I actually feel envy?
Like what do I want to choose to think?
What do I want to select to think?
That's so good.
It's the same thing.
No, it's exactly the same thing.
And it works.
It's just a natural monk.
You are.
There we go.
We just keep coming back to this realization.
That's beautiful.
That's really awesome.
But I love that because I feel so often
when we talk about self-love and self-care
and really analyzing self-interingly,
people think it is very abstract, and they don't know where to start. And think it is very abstract and they don't know where to start.
And I know I felt like I don't know where to start.
How do I fix this?
How do I even address this stuff?
I think that's why my default is to go pragmatic
is because if you as a little more able to control
and that way, yeah.
Well, it's good.
I think if you're not pragmatic,
you then don't know what the source of the problem is.
Like, you don't know what to look at.
If you don't look at a process,
you don't know what to change. It's kind of like a blanket solution. It's like look at. If you don't look at a process, like you don't know what to change.
It's kind of like a blanket solution.
It's like, I feel envy.
Okay, I'm just gonna,
I was gonna try to be a better person.
What does that mean?
Like, what does that mean?
Exactly.
You gotta really get in my book, I call it,
send the GPS deep.
Nice.
I call this, I believe we have like many layers in us.
When you get to the real layer of like why you do something
where you do, you have to address it like that.
And so I just feel like being pragmatic helps with that.
Instead of just being, be better. Be a better person. Yeah, be positive. have to address it like that. And so I just feel like being pragmatic helps with that. Instead of just being, be better, be a better person.
I just like quotes like that, you know?
Just try, try, believe, I'm like, no,
me believe it is not gonna help these deaf people.
Definitely.
I'm not deaf down here.
I believed, and off, okay.
I have debts like no one's watching enough
and I'm fixing the problems.
Definitely, I'm glad I don't post quotes like that.
Just putting out. No, your quotes are great. No, actually, Jays quotes are great. No, I'm just putting it, no're not fixing the problems. Definitely, I'm glad I don't post quotes like that. Just putting out.
No, your quotes are great.
No, actually, Jays quotes are great.
No, I'm just putting it out.
No, I agree with you.
I also formatted so nicely.
Thank you.
But that's also the part of self development
and me being in that world.
That was one of my biggest issues with it.
And when I came into it, it was just like,
I wanted to get away from saying things
that are easy to say.
And they sound good.
But if you give that to someone,
it's like, well, they're like, well, how do,
it's like showing someone a picture
of an amazing cake.
Right. Exactly.
And so bake it from this picture.
Exactly. No.
Right. And it's like, you can't.
You need the recipe.
So you're giving me people recipes.
Yeah.
That's 100% always my issue.
And especially in LA, I feel like every time
I want to read carpet, people go, so how are you excited
to be here?
And I'm always like, yeah.
And I'm always like, one day I just wanna be like,
no, you know what, I feel like I just genuinely dislike
answers that have no substance or ideas that have no substance.
I feel like that's like a lot of the quotes
you see online do that.
They have this like shiny platter, no substance
and you don't know how to apply it.
Yeah, absolutely.
Well, thank you for giving the real trips.
Be as pragmatic in this as you like.
Oh, I'm going to.
If you want to give steps, you want to give tips, do it.
Give it my 99 step, my book.
My audience loves that.
Like everyone who's watching and listening
will love for you to be as hack like,
especially if you're a fan.
No, honestly, I mean, if they have you leading them,
then there's really nothing more I can provide.
That's not true.
I promise you.
I genuinely don't believe that.
Like genuinely others are going to be sitting here talking to you.
Tell me about some of the hacks and hit trips and habits that you have daily, weekly, monthly,
anything you do.
Well, to help me in my life.
Yeah.
Okay.
This is again, very, very, very, very, I think I'm a nerd.
Okay.
So I'm a big believer in removing as many obstacles as my day as in my day as possible to be as optimal as possible
Right, and so I
Every time throughout my day something goes even mildly wrong
I write it down on my phone. I have a little note and it can be like really simple
It can be like I'm driving in my car my lips are chapped. I don't have chapstick
I'm annoyed like it can be really really small or it could be like really really big and then I actually dedicate time
Before I go to bed to solve those problems for tomorrow.
So my goal is every day to have as little friction that I can control as possible because
I know there will be so many obstacles I can't control that will come my way.
So whatever I can control will be controlled.
And whatever I can't, I will be prepped.
That is amazing.
Yeah, I love that one.
Super small thing.
So you'll notice, like, I obsessively have
chapstick everywhere in my car, in my desk.
Phone charge is another thing, having everywhere all the time.
So I think it's just about understanding
you can't control things, but things you can control to do.
I guess.
That's one.
Another one, please.
I like the one a lot.
Thank you.
Another one is, okay, this is, this is
what I believe and I'm not admittedly not the best at putting it into practice. I'll admit,
it's, it is a quote actually. I don't know who said it, but it's say what you mean, don't
say it mean. I'm a big believer in speaking in straight lines. So there's very little room
for assumption, but not being mean. So I struggled with this because I, I really dislike
confrontation. And so when I have
to tell someone something like, you didn't do this or I didn't like when you did this, I'm honest
like, okay, let me rehearse this. I don't know what the hell to do here. And so I find myself like
really beating around the bush. So what I've been trying to work at is just saying what I want to
say, but that does, and in my mind, that equals being me, but it doesn't. It's really just talking
to someone with respect still,
but loving yourself enough to say what actually bothered you.
So I'm working on that still, but that's an apartment.
Say what you mean, don't say me.
That's a great piece of it.
I think our common friend, Humble,
is someone actually that, if you guys don't know Humble a poet,
he's super dope.
But I feel like I communicate the best
of everyone in the world with Humble,
because we speak in very straight lines
and neither of us ever get offended.
It's like, I didn't like when you did this.
Please don't do it, X, Y, and Zen,
he's like, I understand, I will not.
And it's like done and I'm like, wow,
that's like really great.
I just can't seem to do it with other people,
I don't know what it is.
Wow, yeah, no, I think conflict resolution
or like managing conflict or difficult situations
It's probably one of the skills that everyone avoids learning.
No, 100%
Because it's just so awkward or it can't feel awkward and it's like my feelings and their feelings and everything
So I think that's a great piece of advice. I think a lot of people benefit from that.
Yeah, I'm still working on it. It's a hard thing
But say what you mean don't say it mean. I try to I try to say that in my mind before every little bit of confrontation
Also, some things that I consider
confrontation that really are not,
I'm like, it's okay if you want extra walk.
They're not gonna care.
It's okay if you want extra walk.
I'm so, so it's a Canadian.
I'm so sorry.
Do you mind putting,
can I pay you to put extra walk on this?
It's amazing how sad.
Why do I think that's comforting?
I'm aware now.
Yeah.
No, I think that's the thing that we all commonly share.
I used to do this weird thing where I'd say something really like straight to someone and
then that follow it obviously.
He's saying something really nice.
No, no, LOL.
LOL is honestly destroyed.
My ability to confront people or emojis, because I'd be like, I really didn't like me to
do this.
LOL.
Yeah.
Where really I shouldn't be doing that.
That's my buffer.
That's totally shame.
I used to do that all the time. I think I still doing that. That's my buffer. That's totally shame. I used to do that all the time
I think I still do that sometimes. I say something that I really mean and then I'm like trying to try to cover
For me, it's like X, you know X the little kiss. There's like
So X just want to say X is like a whole bunch of like stop doing this
Just say what he's talking about my sister is literally laughing at me right now because I've probably done this for multiple times
Yeah, but I'm just so like I don't know. I just I'm so scared of being mean. Yes My sister is literally laughing at me right now because I've probably done this for multiple times.
But I'm just so, I don't know,
I just am so scared of being mean.
Yes.
But I have to understand that it's not,
it's like it's not saying what you mean
with it's possible to say what that would be mean.
Yeah.
And it's beautiful when like what you're saying
about between you and humble,
like having a relationship where you can have that.
And I think I'd want to encourage anyone to listen to this
with their friends, et cetera.
Like build that relationship up where you can give each other
regular feedback, right?
Yes.
So that relationship where you can be honest with each other.
Because wouldn't you want that?
And like I know all these things,
but it's hard to put into practice.
But wouldn't you want a friend that like,
hey, no one else is telling you about this whack mother
everybody you have.
So let me, you know what I mean?
I feel like I would want that.
And so it really makes no sense logically why I wouldn't do that for somebody, but I just, it's hard.? I feel like I would want that. And so it really makes no sense logically
why I wouldn't do that for somebody,
but it's hard.
Yeah.
No, I definitely want that.
And that's one of the questions I wanted to ask you, actually,
is like, how have you managed to continue to,
and you mentioned it earlier,
but to continue to keep and build meaningful relationships
as your success is grown, as your business is grown,
like how is that, how are you making a priority in that? And how hard is that?
Yes, easy answer, I don't.
Yeah, and it's hard.
It's really difficult.
You know, I always say,
I think I gave a percentage earlier
and now I'm changing it.
99% of my job is psychological,
1% is actual work.
I always say that because once I start
to get garnered a certain level of success,
my, you know, my Facebook inbox was full of so many old friends
that are now really proud of me.
And you know, and I'm sure you relate as well.
It's a lot of your closest friends messaging you
because they need something or they want something.
And so I've had to really look at that
and decide how I want to perceive that.
And for a long time, it was not positively.
It was, I got a little bitter.
I was like, oh, well, no, you're not my friend.
You're actually just someone that wants something, right? But I've had to adjust my mentality to now
think, well, don't you want to be in the position to help people? It's okay to love yourself enough
to be like, hey, I have to respectfully say no, because I'm not able to do this. But just how I perceive
it had to change for my own sanity. It had to change. So now I try to think of things of like,
well, why else would you want to have this success
if you can't help all these people?
You should think of it like that.
You should want to help these people.
So, see it as a positive.
Don't see it as something that sucks your soul.
That'll see it as a positive.
And so, I've had to really work on that.
Trust is still a really hard thing.
You know, people ask me all the time,
when you meet someone new or like, how do you date? Doesn't it feel like people just want to
talk to you because you're superman? Sometimes yes. Sometimes yes, it's true. Someone
will talk to me and then very quickly make it transparent that it's because I'm super
live. So it's been a delicate dance of figuring it all out. But I am just now choosing to
live my life believing and giving everyone the benefit
of the doubt of being like, you know what? It's okay if you're talking to me because I'm superman
because I am proud of superman, I'm proud of Lily, I'm proud of what I've built and I should
want to talk about it and it's fine. That's the only way and that might sound weird or unhealthy,
but that's the only way to really live my life without being completely bitter all the time.
That's so awesome. That is such a brilliant answer. That's amazing. I don't know We were drawn healthy, but that's the only way to really live my life without being completely better all the time.
That's so worth it.
That's such a brilliant answer.
That's amazing.
I don't know if someone watching this can be like, girl, you stupid, because you're going
to get used.
And I know that, like trust me, I'm well aware that there will be people that talk to me
and have an ulterior motive.
But what's the alternative to then not talk to anyone or to not, you know what I mean,
I'd rather just give people the benefit of the job.
Well, I loved what you said specifically
about the other option for you is to live in bitterness.
Yeah, exactly. Like it's just being bitter.
Like it's just being like, oh, everyone wants something for me.
So I'm not going to talk to anyone.
Right.
And that option is so toxic for you.
Yes, and I did that.
I'm such an outgoing person.
I've always been very extroverted.
And I found myself last year, suddenly not wanting to go to social settings as much,
saying no to invites all the time because I felt just exhausted being around people.
That's fair.
You know, I was just like, no, everyone I go is going to be bugging me about something.
And so I changed my mentality to be like, and then so what? Go to these events,
ask other people about their lives and let them ask you, oh, you're like, it's okay, it's only exhausting and soul-sucking because you're defining it to
be that way. Like this me being in the public eyes, not changing, I can't reverse it, I can't stop it.
You know, I could start making videos today. And still, there's going to be people coming up to me
years from now being like, hey, I love you. You know what I mean? I can't reverse it. So I have to
make an active choice to define it
as something else.
Yeah.
You know, absolutely.
Yeah.
And I think protecting your energy is important.
I do think that too.
Yeah.
What are you saying is for us?
Yeah.
No, I know you know this.
I'm just throwing out for anyone who's listening is just like,
that protecting your energy is so important too.
Right.
Like not going everywhere.
You think you have to be et cetera, which I know you already know.
Right.
That's an important part of it, too, because it can be exhausting to just turn out and
have to be someone and the rest of it.
Right.
And then I have told myself, if you do have to go somewhere, or if you want to go somewhere,
don't define it as being so second.
Yes, exactly.
And so I found myself when I go out to places now, I actually like just find people and really
get into their stories.
Yeah. And I like leave with many more friends friends mostly because I've like had like seven or 14 drinks
but it's also because I like people that I want to get to know them.
So, you know.
I love it.
This is, yeah, you're amazing.
I love how when I'm listening to you all I can think of is you're such an introspective
soul.
Like you like, you've like literally like gone over things,
which I think are really tough.
I want I'm hearing you, the only energy I'm sensing from
is that it's real.
Like it's like you've just, yeah, it's, it's, it's,
it's a real work.
It's a major.
It's definitely been a work in progress.
I was not always like this.
I did not always, I was not always introspective like that.
And I think that's the biggest silver lining of any heartache
I've had in my life.
People are like, what are you most thankful for?
And I'm like, being depressed because literally it's given me so much silver lining of just how to befriend my mind
and why I think the way I think I had to be in a really bad place to do those things.
And so, yeah, I wasn't always like this, but I tried to make something out of bad times, I guess.
It's amazing.
Tell me, tell me, you said 2019 was a year you wanted to take more risks.
Tell me about some of the risks.
Yeah, when I said 2019 was a year I want to take more risks, I was talking creatively.
Yeah, sure.
I want to.
Yeah, not jumping off a building.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I was it.
But I wanted to create content that, you know, I think when you're a YouTube creator,
you kind of get into some mentality of like,
I know it works on YouTube, I know what kind of title,
I know what kind of subject my mind would be like,
okay, let me do something with the boy,
let me make it seem like a relationship,
let me make a thumbnail this.
There's a formula that works to get people to click a video.
For me, that feels very safe because it's a tried,
true, and tested formula.
I want to do things where the thumbnail might not be
enticing, the title might not be enticing,
but it's a piece of content that I feel is really risky
in terms of putting it on that platform
because it might not get any views.
And that's okay.
The content I've been putting out this year so far,
I'm super proud of.
I'm probably the person I've watched them the most
more than my fans as I love them so much.
And that's when I'm meant by taking more risks.
I also'm taking more risks in terms of business. I think business is art. I am not trained
formally in business. I have a psychology degree, like I said, so take that for what you will.
But I own a business and I want to take more risks in terms of the production company. I have,
you know, try to push stories that I know traditional Hollywood would be like,
no, that's like, we're not putting that on a screen,
that's the type of story I want to put you create.
I like it.
You know, I've gotten notes like,
a story about an immigrant girl from India is not relatable.
I've gotten that note,
I walk into rooms with old white men,
not that there's anything wrong with old white men,
but I've gotten to many rooms
where I'm trying to tell a story
and they're not understanding it.
And so I wanna take risks and still push those stories
even though I know it's not the safe way to get a deal
or have someone buy something, like I don't care.
I wanna push those stories.
And also in terms of like being edgy business
in terms of like requesting meetings with people
that are like completely absurd.
Yeah.
Just a couple days ago, I even went to see,
and I was like, I wanna meet with this person,
make it happen.
And then I just walked into this room
with the gift for the person.
I was like, you know who I am,
and you're gonna know who I am now.
And you know, just kinda do those little risky moves.
I love those.
Make waves.
Why not?
Why not?
I was believed if you can't give up before you try.
And even once you try,
and there's a no, like, figure it out.
I feel like it's gonna happen.
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What was meant is seen as a very snotty city.
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Absolutely, and I love that you're taking those risks
because I think everyone who watches those things
eventually is gonna benefit from them,
like anything that gets made will benefit from them.
Exactly.
And also just, I mean, I'm sure from your side,
like what you were saying about you earlier,
it's just more fun, right?
Like take more risks, keep it exciting to be nervous.
It also helps me hustle harder because one of the biggest risks
was my production company.
Yeah.
I started it last year.
It's only about nine months old, but a major financial investment.
Like, I'll be super real with you as someone I'm super frugal.
I'm very cheap.
My sister knows you.
Like, literally, I'm so cheap.
But when I came to my company, I was like,
I'm going to put so much money. I'm going to put so much money,
I'm going to put so much resource into this.
And that's a huge risk.
But because of that, I'm like on my toes now being like,
what are we going to do to make this work?
We need to work really hard.
And that's what makes it exciting.
Yeah.
Absolutely.
I don't know if you've heard about this thing called flow state.
No.
So when I'm hearing you, it sounds like you enjoy flow state.
And I think you've probably experienced it multiple times.
So flow state is when your challenge matches your skill.
So your challenge level matches your skill.
So when your challenge is below your skill, you get bored
because you're more skilled and your challenge is low.
And then when your challenge is above your skill, you get frustrated
because your challenge is so high and your skill levels low. Right. And so if you're constantly upping your challenges level. And then when your challenge is above your skill, you get frustrated because your challenge is so high
in your skill levels low.
And so if you're constantly upping your skill
and upping your challenge, you keep experiencing flow state,
which is like where you feel like in the zone, moving,
like things are happening, like you have breakthrough moments,
right?
And so when I'm hearing you speak.
I sound so smart, that's yeah.
Yeah, that's what I do.
Yeah.
That's cool.
Wow.
Yeah, where's what I do. Yeah. Yeah, that's good. Wow, yeah. So where did you get, where did the mindset of hustle
harder come from into your life?
Like where did that even come from?
I think innately it's because of my parents.
You know, my parents are immigrants from India.
My dad, the destroyer, my dad has told me many a time
when I came to Canada, I had two jobs,
worked the night shift.
You know, my parents had to work so hard to provide for me.
They did a fabulous job for me and my sister.
We had a great upbringing because of that.
So I think innately I have that immigrant hustle in me,
but I think otherwise any job I've had growing up,
and I honestly don't even know why.
My first job was fast food,
and I remember even at that job,
someone came up to me and they were like,
you look work really hard.
I think I was refilling the forks.
Like we're letting this, he was like,
just refill the forks and they were like,
I keep hitting this, that's cool.
They were like, you're fired.
It's just something about not,
I feel like if I'm not being productive,
I'm not taking advantage of everything I've been giving.
I mean, I don't wanna waste all the resources
and opportunities I've been given.
I think that's where it comes from.
Well, I love that.
I can't be in my house in LA in this wonderful life with these wonderful people around me
and then be like, all right, we'll just chill.
I'll be like, no, I need to do something with there.
Or else, what did I work hard for?
Also then what did my parents work hard for?
And then why for what?
I need to know, I need to give it to purpose, you know?
purpose and meaning and and and and and
and I want my dog to have a better life, you know?
Like honestly, when I'm working really hard,
I'm like, I want to work hard so that you can have
whatever car you want and whatever else you want.
And dog stuff is expensive in this case.
Exactly.
I've looked.
Oh no, 100%. I've seen've looked. Oh no, 100%.
I've seen dog hotels.
Oh no, anytime I go to the dog store,
they're always trying to get me on that organic,
Romics Stop.
Stop trying to make the raw food a thing.
That just not gonna be the thing stuff.
No, it's just true.
No, but really it's just because I want my dog
to have a better life.
Yeah.
It's the most meaningful thing.
I think he can be whatever he wants when he grows up
and I want him to know that.
So do I.
Am I gonna get a C-scalboard today? Oh no, I remember for the- Oh no, he's not the office. I didn't think he can be whatever he wants. When he grows up and I want him to know that. So do I. Am I going to get a C-scalboard for that?
Yeah.
Oh no, he's not the office.
I didn't think he should be there for the meditation.
Oh yeah, yeah.
So you'll be like biting your own picture.
Yeah, I'd love to see him again.
He's super cute.
Yeah, I don't.
Yeah.
That story you put up recently of taking all your pictures
instead of you.
Yes.
Recreate.
Yes.
Very funny.
This is about my dog.
You should know about Paul's poop. About the rock and your dog. Yes very funny. This is part, this is about my dog. You should have all followed up.
About the rock and your dog.
Yes, exactly.
This is about my priorities.
I love it.
I want to ask you about this because I think you've just been, even in this whole conversation,
been super honest, super reflective.
What's been your biggest failure?
Like, what's been the thing that went wrong for you or at least felt like it was going
wrong for you? It's there like it was going wrong for you.
It's been, it has been, maybe it hasn't.
I have two, I have a professional one and a personal one.
I think my biggest failure professionally
has been subscribing to a system
and putting that above making art that I believe.
I can honestly say that.
When I first started making YouTube videos,
I was very proud of everything and I enjoyed it.
And then I got a lot of success and a lot of views.
And YouTube became even bigger.
When I first started YouTube,
I could name every creator.
And I could say like, I know you.
Now there's so many creators, there's so much content.
So I told myself that, no,
you need to just do whatever it takes
to make sure that the algorithm likes you
and people watch your videos.
So I was very much so writing a script
very quickly and shooting a video.
And I think professionally that was a failure
because I think that my audience could probably see that
and I put quality above quality, I'm sorry,
I put quantity above quality
and I think that was a professional fail for sure.
Personally, for sure, without a doubt, my biggest personal
fail is that during this journey of superwoman and this career,
I have placed very little importance on my self-care for sure.
And people would be shocked to know that because in my vlogs,
I'm like, very happy and very energetic and that's not a front.
Nice. I am that way.
But, you know, some days when I am down or tired,
would I then feel obligated to like be that person?
Yes. What I place work over priorities
with relationships with friends, for sure.
I've been single for my whole life.
So, I mean, you know, so I think there was definitely moments
where I convinced myself that the only success that matters
is professional success.
Whereas, no, doing things that mean a lot to you personally,
that is also success.
And I had to redefine what success means to me
because it did truly only mean professionalism.
Until recently.
The best thing is that both of those things you're talking about,
you're working on both of them.
I am actively working on them.
And I had to really value it.
And you called them out to everyone.
Like you've actually...
Yeah.
You know, every year when I do at the end of every year,
not only for myself, but also I have a year-end review video,
so I'm forced to go through all of my achievements.
And I noticed at the end of 2018,
I had so many personal achievements I had made,
but professionally it was like a little bit less
than previous years.
Yeah, I remember looking at the list and being like,
what a bad year.
Like I felt like I didn't have a successful year.
Then I had to check myself and be like,
um, actually personally, you had the most successful year.
You're just not defining success that way,
you know, which was a huge issue.
Yeah, amazing.
Yeah, anyone listening makes you define
your own version of success.
You're 100%.
And it's so easy to get carried away
when things are working and things are happening.
And then just forget what's important.
Exactly.
It's beautiful to see you do it.
Thanks.
It's amazing.
I'll keep you posted.
Yeah, yeah, exactly.
Well, you better.
You better.
I want weekly updates.
I will, don't worry. I'm, you know what? Honestly, now that we're like good, good friends, I'm gonna. Well, you better. You better. I want to weak you out this. I will.
Don't worry.
I'm, you know what?
Honestly, now that we're like good, good friends, I'm going to text you all the time.
Like, do you have this problem?
Can you help me?
I'm always, yeah.
Like, what I have to say, Jay is so sweet.
When I went on my break, he sent me the most lovely text and it wasn't even like, proud
of you, fluffy, fluffy.
It was like substance and like a text from someone that genuinely thought
about the text and cared about what they were saying.
And I really felt that.
I was like, this person is not just texting me
for a connection or for a network or like because they think
they have to, they actually care what they're saying
and they care about the outcome of this.
And that's what Jay was.
And truly, that was the blown away by that.
So thank you.
I thought a lot about that text.
I know. It was like so well-form was the blown away by that. So thank you. I thought a lot about that text. I know.
It was like so well-formatted.
It was spelled well.
It was great.
Maybe not that stuff at all.
I know.
I just know because I really respected you
for it.
And on a genuine level, like I was just like, wow.
I genuinely respected you for it.
And I was just like, I never wanted,
I just, I didn't want to be little what you had done.
And at the same time, I just, yeah, it was from the heart.
It was from the heart.
And I'm glad it felt that way.
That's always like my worst.
And that's one of the things I worry about.
I don't know how much you have,
but I definitely worry about this space.
I'm like, when I reach out to someone,
I only reach out to people I really want to connect to.
And so the last thing I want them to do
is get a wrong impression from you that I'm reaching out to them from the wrong thing. And I the last thing I want them to do is get a wrong impression for me
that I'm reaching out to them from the wrong thing.
And I genuinely have that as an insecurity,
as a questioning of like,
I don't want them to feel that way.
But I also want them to know me for who I am.
I don't want them to like me because
of the way I portrayed myself.
Right, right, right.
So I'm sure that loud and clear
and I think nothing but genuine,
I see nothing but genuineness from me.
It's feelings mutual. When we collaborate together with Christmas and I think nothing but genuine. I see nothing but genuineness from me. Feelings mutual.
When we collaborate together with Christmas,
I had so much fun.
And I was just like, that was, that was, I was like,
it was so nice because so many of people that I know back in London
and I went back for Christmas.
And there was always sort of video,
we did Lily and like obviously they're huge fans of yours.
And they were just like, what's she like?
And I was like, she's a man.
You know, it was just so nice to be able to say
that after having spent time with someone.
I love that.
I feel like there's a number of questions
people ask everyone else.
Yeah.
And we're like, what is she like in real life?
And I kind of want people to like tell weird lies about me.
I kind of want someone to be like, she has a tail.
Yeah.
You know, if you're something like that,
I'm like, I really am into that.
Yeah.
Okay.
So next time, I should do that.
I would say something weird.
Say something weird. Yeah. Say something weird about me. Like, she's not really Punj that. Yeah, okay. So next time I should do that. She doesn't say it. She doesn't say something weird. Yeah, she's not weird about me.
Like she's not really Punjabi.
Yeah, or like her hair is fake.
Her hair is fake.
Yeah, that'd be a good one.
Yeah, what else?
Tell me something.
Um, abducted.
Aducted.
Aducted, yeah.
Yeah, you could say, she's actually married to Scarborough.
She's actually married to Scarborough.
That's a good one.
I like that one.
We can get pictures made too.
Oh, we have them.
I'm kidding.
I love that.
I love that.
Awesome.
I want to ask you, I always ask this to my guests
because I think it's important.
I wanted to, actually, you know, before we do that,
I want to talk about your production company.
Do we?
I want to talk about some of the ideas that you've been
coming up with.
Yes.
But Polly, we also was part of introducing us
and head of development, of course.
But Polly is wonderful, by the way.
She's so sweet.
She's so sweet.
But yeah, I've enjoyed all the time
I've spent with her briefly too.
But she's the head of development.
She's talking about some of the cool ideas.
Whatever you can share, I'd love to know.
Like, I don't want to, yeah.
No, for sure, for sure.
We, I'll give you like the top line of a few things.
We are working on a arranged marriage thriller.
I love you.
When she told me that, I was like,
which I'm very excited about because an arranged marriage,
it's the perfect environment for just a lot of cool,
freaky stuff to happen.
100%.
And I feel like so often we see movies
that are only one type of relationship,
but honestly, the percentage of arranged marriages in the world is very high.
It's not only in the people with many cultures across the world.
So that's an example of making stories that people can relate to and be like, oh, this
is like another perspective we haven't seen.
So I'm really excited about that one.
We also are working on a few animated projects.
So we're working on a kid's animation based off Unicorn Island, which is this fantastical
world in my mind. And again, I want to be very like female voices diverse cast
It's gonna be animated so my voice one of the characters. We'll see you
Said about that and I'll tell you about one more we are working on
a it's another animation adult animation and it is about a
feminist woman who
Agrees to get her parents to introduce her to a guy to get married.
So she goes this very traditional route
and she's in this environment where she's super feminist
but has like address all these like cultural things
that are coming her way.
And so she's kind of on the edge of like what she should do.
So it's super cool.
That's me trying to tell you it without telling you.
No, no, no, no.
And then she does, but I can't say that.
So it's gonna be good.
No, I love the ideas.
And I wanted you to share them
just because I love how much your A,
injecting parts of your own culture into the work
and looking at it through it,
completely different lens.
Like when I first had the idea of the arranged marriage
through it, I was just like, that is so cool.
Yeah, yeah, that's it.
I get such a great idea and I loved it.
I also, something I'm really passionate about,
which I don't know what we wanna do with this yet,
but there's this really cool book called
Once Upon a Story that Never Happened.
Don't call me on the title, but essentially,
it's about, it's a kid's book, it's a kid's animated book,
and it's about a princess trapping a tower,
but she just wanna prince a saver.
She wants a princess to saver.
And so I posted about this, of course,
tons of backlash about this,
but it's essentially
a story that's not so, and why I think it's beautiful, it's not so about like, let's discuss
sexuality, you know, it's just a princess driving a tower and she just describes a princess
she wants to say for. You know, and it's really fun because the dwarf at the end is like, yeah,
I get it. Well, I live with like 12 guys, so like I get it. So it's like a really fun story,
but I think those are the types of like risk taking boundary pushing stories I wanna tell.
Because I think it's so important for people to grow up
seeing people like them.
You know, I didn't grow up seeing things like that.
The only reference I have of people that look like me
with Hollywood movies.
Yeah, absolutely, yes.
You know what I mean?
And so I think it's important for people to,
there's something really nice.
And that's the one thing I like with, another one thing.
One of the main things that I like with the entertainment
industry is that they tell stories
that make people feel like they're not alone.
That's the best way when you're watching
and whether you're reading a book and you're like,
whoa, like there's this person that is like,
I suddenly feel 100 times better about my life.
I think that's the magic of story.
And so it just makes no sense
and it's counterintuitive to me
that so many people in power
Think they can decide which story should be told and not told it just makes no sense to me Yeah, because our job is to tell stories that relate to people, you know, absolutely
And then it's not all it's not just diversity, but it's representation
Right, it's like that feeling of representing
Representing the reality of the world
That's what it is, right? It's like anytime I get a note about something. I'm like This is what the world. That's what it is, right?
It's like anytime I get a note about something,
I'm like, this is what the world looks like.
Like we're no longer living the sheltered,
like what you think, no, this is literally
what the world looks like.
And that's what it should be represented on TV.
100%.
100%.
Yeah, absolutely.
How much do you miss Toronto?
I don't miss the weather at all.
My mom and my face time at yesterday,
she said it's minus 30 degrees Celsius.
Celsius.
Mm-hmm.
So, I do Celsius.
I do Celsius, yeah, yeah.
It says really, really cold.
Obviously, my friends and family are there.
So I miss it a lot in terms of some
of the strong relationships I have.
But if I'm really honest, I was two in my comfort zone in Toronto.
Moving to LA was me stepping out of my comfort zone
and really challenged me to get to the places I am at now.
Amazing.
I could have stayed in Toronto, and I would have been
a big fish in a small pond probably,
and I hope that doesn't come off the wrong way,
but I really had to thrust myself in a scenario where I was like,
oh, for today I moved to LA, I was freaking out.
I had literally an anxiety attack
and had to pull over on the side of the road truly,
because I moved here, I didn't really know anyone.
I remember I went to Ralph's to buy,
to buy, I don't know, a bottle of wine or something
and they didn't accept my Canadian idea.
And I was like, what have I done?
Literally.
So like there was just so many things that I didn't know.
I mean, it was really, really scary.
And so now I always think about that.
That's from Toronto to LA.
Imagine India to Toronto.
My parents, you know.
It was very scary.
And especially because like, as soon as I landed here, I was like,
auditions, meetings, all this.
And I'm not from this world. I had to learn it all. I had to sit in here, I was like, auditions, meetings, all this. And I'm not from this world. Like I had to learn it all,
I had to sit in meetings and nod and like,
kind of like fake until you make it mentality.
And so it was a lot of that, you know.
You've been on such a steep learning curve.
It truly, I've been in some situation
and I'm like, I'm gonna learn a lot of things very,
very, very fast.
Exactly.
But you have, like that's the incredible thing.
You're in there.
Yeah, like, no, but you have, like you've,
you've learned how to set up a business,
you've learned how to even just now, like take care of yourself. I don't know. Yeah, like, no, but you have, like, you've learned how to set up a business, you've learned
how to even just now, like take care of yourself.
I don't know.
My company always asks about like, my employees joke around like, do we have an HR department
I'm like, shut up.
Do we have an HR department?
No, I'm definitely learning and it's super stressed.
I don't know if you can relate, but when you're running a business, it's like a whole thing.
It's a whole thing. And there's so many times where I'm like, oh my God, I'm not equipped to do any of this stuff.
And I think one of the lessons I've learned is the smartest thing you can do is be the dumbest person in the room.
So I make sure that when I hire people on my team, I'm like, you are all better than me at the thing you do.
You know, so that makes me really smart because I chose you to be here.
So like, I make sure I have really good lawyers
because back in the day, my mentality was like,
I will learn to edit very well.
And I will learn how to do my taxes.
Why, I'll never learn.
But I will hire very smart people to do those things
so that I'm the dumbest person in the room.
100%.
Yeah, Steve Jobs used to say,
we don't hire smart people to tell them what to do. We smart people so they can tell us exactly and it's like I completely agree
And I think everyone's when they can and you have the ability as an entrepreneur to outsource the areas
Yeah, that you don't have an expertise in which was in which was also a huge struggle for me because as a creator online
Yeah, people kind of guilt you to for doing that totally. A big hurdle for me was when I had to hide the fact
that I'm an editor for so long,
and I can openly honestly say that,
that I was like, no, I have to make it seem
like I'm doing everything still,
because when I started, yes, I was doing everything.
Of course.
I was editing, I was shooting, I was writing,
but then I got to a point where I could,
and I was fortunate enough to outsource
so that I could have more time to be more creative
and do other things.
But I was made to feel so guilty about that. You know, and I think a enough to outsource so that I could have more time to be more creative and do other things. But I was made to feel so guilty about that.
You know, and I think a lot of creators relate
to this idea of, you have to put off this
to saw that you do everything but you don't.
What I want for everyone else is for them to grow.
And I genuinely believe people should want that for each other.
I want you to go to a place where you can have a team
and be mentally stable and good. And so I was like, it doesn't matter if people are mad that I have a net where you can have a team and be mentally stable and good.
And so I was like, it doesn't matter if people are mad
that I have a netter, I have a netter.
Because he's better than me.
That is exactly.
He used to take me 25 hours to edit a five minute video.
Oh no, 100%.
I'm excited, same with me, no film background,
no media background, I had to teach myself.
It was just so long, and I did it for a long, long time.
And then when I could finally, I was so happy.
It was like six years of me shooting all my videos,
myself editing all myself, and they looked like trash.
So everyone should be very happy that I don't do it anymore.
Absolutely.
Yeah, I love it.
Is there anything we haven't talked about?
Are you like, Jay, I wish you asked me about this.
I wish we talked about this, because I'm happy to go there now.
You were pretty thorough, to be honest. No, but I'm happy, as if I missed if I want to know. No because I'm happy to go there now. You were pretty thorough to be honest.
No, but I'm happy to, as if I missed if I want to know.
No, I don't think so.
This is me telling you, you can tell me.
I appreciate that. No, I definitely will.
But I don't think so.
Yeah.
How fun was it designing your match?
I wish it was very fun to design.
See it everywhere.
But I will say, for someone that's as big as a control freak as me,
I have this bad habit of wanting very nice things,
but for very cheap.
I have this thing in my heart, and I swear to God,
I'm not just saying this because it sounds good,
I'm genuinely meeting this.
I really don't want my merch to be expensive.
Because I know what it feels like to be a young kid,
bugging your parents to buy you something
and it being and then being like, shut up,
you're not getting this sweater for $80,
that's why I'm here.
So that's something I'm struggling with.
I'm struggling with, I want myself to look really cool
and I don't want it to be expensive.
That doesn't exist right?
I don't think that exists anywhere.
So it's a lot of fun,
but there's still a lot of work to be done in that regard.
Because that's the hardest bit, right?
When you buy something and it was cheap,
but then in the first wash, it goes bad or it bothers up.
And then you have a bad taste because of that.
Because if I'm, I'll be honest, some things I do,
some things I do because I like it,
and also because it's like,
this is a smart business opportunity.
That's not how I view merch.
I'm fortunate enough to have a lot of other revenue streams
where I'll promote just like a fun thing for me to do.
That's exciting.
And I know for my fans it's exciting as well.
So it's not, it's truly not my priority
to like make a lot of money off merch.
Yeah.
Yeah.
If I'm really honest, I'd rather make money off a tour
where I can actually meet my fans.
That makes more sense to me.
Sure.
It's not about, it's not like a very big business,
financial endeavor that I'm trying to go on.
And I know I'm gonna say,
it's people who look short the F up,
they're gonna sell merch.
Take it for what you will,
but I'm being super honest
that the most frequent email I get is like,
you're gonna make zero dollars on your merch.
You just want you to know that you're a horrible business person.
And I'm like,
I'm like, it's so cute, I love it, I'm a poor fan.
And I also like send a lot of this stuff to like India.
And that's like literally sends up to India.
And I was like, $900 is that their, and I was like,
this is fine.
So, you know.
I literally did not pay me to ask for much,
just putting in, I paid me to talk about my,
I'm sorry.
But I'll give you some weird today.
I asked because I missed your pop up
when you had it here I was traveling.
So that's why I asked because I knew it looked fun.
Thank you.
And I was sad that I missed that.
But did that stuff thing?
I had a pop-up and I only knew it was fun.
But what I really want to do is a pop-up in India.
But then again, my merge company seemed like, oh,
sorry, are you going to pay for these 9 million boxes
to go to India because we ain't go pay for it.
So then I run into issues like that.
See, this is why I need someone telling me what to do.
I love it.
No, but I think that's part of it.
I genuinely think that part of it
is going with your intuition, doing what makes you happy,
doing what's meaningful to you.
And like you said, you're smart enough to know where
you can take risks and make mistakes and give.
Sometimes, we'll see.
We'll see.
I love it.
All right, so we end every interview with my final five, which is like my final fast five question.
Okay, so it's going to be round to round.
Okay, cool. So one to three words maximum.
One to three. Okay, cool.
Right. Okay. So what's the hardest thing about being literally saying?
Balance. Nice. Second question. The best thing about being literally saying.
Hair. Okay, question number
three, the worst advice you've ever received. Max three words? No, no, this can be longer.
If you wanted to, you could be a diva. Wow, okay. Fourth question, best advice you've ever received.
No one's going to take care of you. Like, you can take care of you. That's three words, yeah.
OK, cool.
No, no, that can be like.
That's the raw to sing.
And the fifth question, one word to three words, or a sentence,
is you're so good with words.
To describe how you feel right now.
Peaceful.
That's need one word.
You have a peaceful energy.
You make me feel at peace. Good, I'm glad. Yeah. And I feel like I'm in a safe space. That's need one word. You make you have a peaceful energy. You make me feel at peace. Good, I'm glad.
Yeah.
And I feel like I'm in a safe space.
That's why I feel peaceful.
Thank you.
Thank you, Lily.
Look at his voice.
How could you not?
You should do ASMR.
Have you ever done it?
You should do it.
We should talk about this.
Okay, we should talk about it.
No, I was just going to say,
thank you for being so honest, so warm.
Thank you for allowing me to be so honest.
It's amazing to see someone who's as successful as you are,
as able as you are, as talented as you are,
to just hear you be.
You know, and it's amazing.
Like, I just, I love it,
and I hope that you carry on doing it.
And if I don't, can you text me and call me on it?
Because that's what I really need.
If you really want me to do it.
Yeah, I really do.
But I will.
I really do.
And I really do the same back for me.
But no, I want, I just, yeah,
I'm so glad that we're building our friendship and relationship. And I'm grateful now.
I will do whatever you need me to do. More of these, more of these, whatever. I had such a great time,
and I'm honored to be here speaking with you. Oh, thank you. I've got lots of ideas for us to do
stuff. Yes, let's do it. I went to it. That's not going away. But, but, genuinely, thank you so
much. You're amazing. Thank you having amazing. I love all the tips and lessons
you gave today. I'm going to listen back to this for everyone watching and listening and
share Lily's top three tips so that you get those as well. And any team supermembers that
are here, make sure you support Jane everything he does. He's a phenomenal human being certified
unicorn. I love that. Yes. Can I get a badge? Yes. Actually, yes, you can. I'll look on that.
Yeah. Yeah. Bad is certified here, called.
It's so cool.
Sort of see.
Sort of find a little badge.
It's going on my to-do list.
Yeah, certified here, come.
So, right.
You look on the old school, a little old school, like.
Yeah.
Or like, stitch on, like.
Yeah, yeah.
Yeah.
I don't know.
I don't know.
Maybe a ring.
OK.
Write that down.
I love it.
But thank you so much, Lily.
Thank you so much.
You're amazing.
You're incredible, incredible guest, and even better friend. Thanks. And yeah, thank you so much, Lily. Thank you so much. You're amazing. You're incredible, incredible guest and even better friend.
Thanks.
And yeah, thank you.
All the best for 2019.
I hope it's going to be a year of growth for you and your team.
I hope it's going to be amazing for all of your audience who gets to be a part of your
journey.
I'm just sending you the best wishes, prayers and vibes that are possibly next.
Thank you so much.
Thank you so much.
And thanks to all of you.
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