On Purpose with Jay Shetty - RUSS ON: How to Focus Your Self-Determination to Successfully Manifest Your Goals and Visions

Episode Date: May 3, 2021

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Today's guest is Russ, an American rapper, singer, songwriter and producer. He's also the author of the USA Today and Wall Street Journal Best Seller. It's all in your head. Russ has made 14 studio albums in his career with several of his songs going platinum and gold His latest album shake the snow globe came out in January of last year and Debit it at number four on the Billboard album chart Russ. Welcome to on purpose. Thanks. So crazy It's just like crazy hearing those things out loud. I don't know. it just like touched me out sometimes. Yeah, how does it make you feel? Well, like every once in a while I unjade and I'm like,

I go back to being 17 and I'm like, what's going on? I'm like, it's crazy. I'm super grateful. I would have you or 17 year old self felt if they knew that this was gonna be the life you lived. They would have thought I was lame that I didn't do it earlier. They would have been like, took you to 28,

what a loser. But when people ask artists or anyone, oh, did you see this coming? It's like, well, yeah, how else do you make it happen? I don't even know how you would make something extraordinary happen if you don't have like an extraordinary level of belief. Yeah, I feel like there's a difference though between like seeing, believing, and knowing.

Like some people just know. Yeah. But I think sometimes we believe that knowing is like even a deeper like I know, right? You know what I mean? I agree with that. That's interesting because I definitely, when I was coming up, it was that knowing feeling. There was no doubt. Like doubt did not exist in my brain.

I knew that it was gonna work and you couldn't tell me any different. I feel like if we look at the world today, especially what's happened in the last 12 months, but even before that, you see that there are a lot of people who doubt themselves. Why do you think we do that to ourselves and how did you not fall into that?

I don't know if it's necessarily age or if it's exposure to outside chatter. So when I was 17, it was really easy to believe in myself because there was no one saying anything. Like, there was no haters or I had nobody telling me you can't do it. Maybe some friends like joking like,

oh yeah, you're gonna be a rapper producer, but it's like, you know, I think a lot of it is you're born a certain way. I think the other thing is good parenting. My parents, especially my dad, always told me I could do anything. And would like constantly tell me, I was special in all those things.

And I know those people who think that you shouldn't tell your kids certain things like that, but for me, I really can't remember my dad for putting the battery in my back and making me think I can do anything I want because that's why I wrote a book. I don't read that much, but I was like, I could write a book, why not?

So it's like, I don't know, man, shout out to my dad. My dad is like the confidence guru. Shout out to your dad. Yeah, I love hearing about a positive father role model. Mine was my interesting. My dad was more aloof and detached. Interesting. Which actually helped me because it helped me craft

who I wanted to be because I didn't have any pressure from him. Yeah. And so it's interesting how we all were so fun. That's funny. You say that because then it just made me think that the other thing is, is I was always super, super competitive. And I looked up to my dad a lot.

Like he was really in a basketball. He was super smart. He could just like do any of these. One of those people, like he could just do anything. And like, you ask him any question. He knows the answer to it. And since I'm super competitive, I was like, I have to be better than you.

I have to like beat you at basketball. Like he would always beat me at ping pong pool. Like, you know what I'm saying? Like, I just was always so competitive. So I think that really pushed me. He used to challenge me even with school, extra assignment projects where he always loves telling this story. I think it's slightly overrated, but I'll tell it and I'll be happy that I did.

I think seventh grade, there was this class wide or grade wide, extra curricular thing. Like, oh, answer 200 of these math questions online and you'll get something. Am I dad just used to give me a hard time about not applying myself? So just to shut him up, I answered like all 1,000. And like, one the whole thing. But like, he always uses that story as just sort of this way, this thing that I do where a lot of times,

I'll just do something to prove you all wrong and prove me right, you know? Even if I don't really want to do it'all wrong and prove me right. You know, even if I don't really wanna do it, but sometimes that's enough motivation. So I related to Michael Jordan, the last dance thing where like he would use any little thing to be like, that was enough for me. Yeah, you know what I'm saying?

Like, y'all pick Carl Malone as the MVP. That was enough. That's how I be feeling. I only need a little bit. Sometimes I make them up in my head. I'm like, it's like a made believe level of motivation, source of fuel. Yeah, I've heard you talk about that before,

like this idea of having some level of delusion. Yes. And one of my favorite people who had that, and I've studied his life through many books and teachings is Steve Jobs. And so when you read the life of Steve Jobs, Steve Jobs had something they call reality distortion field, where he would distort the reality he experienced

to be what he wanted it to be. Now that can be very dangerous. Yeah. It sounds like a real thing. That's like a psychological real thing. I believe so. That's for sure what my entire life was. From like 17 years ago.

Now you've got to work for it. Yeah, now it sounds like. So yeah, reality distortion feels. So tell me about why do you think delusion is useful and where have you also seen it be dangerous? Because I think both is. Well, I think it kind of depends on what reality you're trying to create.

But I do believe in, you know, I used to walk around saying all my beats are a million dollars a beat and I'm a billionaire and I used to walk around saying, all my beats are a million dollars a beat, and I'm a billionaire, and I just went platinum eight times. These are all things I would say, like that would that not happen? And they were insane. Me and Boogas, my best friend who started Diamond,

he put out a project back in 2011, and we called it 2020, and I produced the whole thing. And we did the entire album from the perspective of 2020. So it was like we're on Rolls Royces and we just made millions of it. Like it was all just distorted reality but it ended up becoming reality. So I do believe that if you wanna change your reality

you have to already believe that it is your reality. But obviously if you like are trying to do some evil or ill intent, it's not gonna be great for everyone else. Yeah, just before we started recording, we were talking about, you know, being creative and being busy. And you said something really interesting, you were just like, you know,

I'm always creative, I've always got stuff going on here. And then you were like, there's some days where I don't, you know, feeling lazy. Like walk us through that because as someone who's super creative, who's loved for your creativity and our original your work is, and that's why I've always liked you. I've always thought your sound is very original and unique and it's hard to like be like,

it's like, oh, it sounds like that person, it sounds like it's like, oh, no, no, this is original. Like, that's where I've always resonated with your work. Tell us about how that is something you achieve, even though there are days where you kind of feel like I just want to sleep all day or whatever. Yeah, it's tough because I mean, we always talk about it all the time. The highs and lows of an artist is really dramatic, at least for me, like I'll have days. if I go into the studio and make something I love. I'm like on cloud nine, like everything is great in my life.

But then I go to sleep and I wake up and that next day, none of that matters. Like I move on very quickly and I'm just like, okay, now I need to make another one. But if I can't make another one, if that day I'm just not feeling it, I go to the studio and I try and nothing works. I'm like, this is, I should just give up.

This is it. I'll never get a creative source. You know what I mean? And it gets very like, you sink really low sometimes, especially if you go, for me, I make so much music that if I don't make a song for four days, I'm like, this is crazy. Like, what's happening?

I'm depressed. So it's hard, but you gotta just remember that you just have to have faith in sort of the creator in the infinite. And I don't feel like I really make music, I feel like I deliver it. When I have those moments, it's just something that's coming to me and I'm the vessel

and now I'm just delivering it and I'm executing it. And I'm almost discovering it in the studio. I don't know if I'm creating, I'm discovering it if that makes sense. You're not always going to be in that place where you're getting the message and you're getting the energy. So just as with it is just hard. It's the waiting time in between. We'll make you feel like, this is it. I'll never make another song. I love what you just said about delivering versus creating. I think that's phenomenal and it's blend really well. What makes you feel like you're in alignment where you can deliver versus forcing you to create?

Lack of thought. Yeah. Lack of thought. Those times where you get into that place where you're not thinking and you're just feeling, and like I said, just delivering. I'm not even thinking about what, oh, should I say this? Like, you get the inspiration and you just execute it. That's when you just enter that flow state

and it's just special. But it's tricky, it's hard, especially like I said, as I got not even necessarily older, just more visibility. There's outside chatter now in my head. You know, what people are gonna think. I know that I'm not just releasing it to my friends anymore. Like, it's become trickier to tune out everything, but yeah, man, just try to focus on the present moment.

That's the one thing that I learned this past year was really like, how do I slow down time? And I was like, okay, well, the way I slow down time is to slow down my thoughts. And the way I slow down my thoughts is to be present. You know, if you're just mindless and you're, you know, you're making a sandwich, but you're thinking about, oh my God, what I need to do tomorrow.

And what I, all of a sudden, two hours passes, right? But if you really think about like, you know, you cutting the sandwich and what that's like, and you're stepping on the grass and what your feet feel like, time moves really slow. You realize how slow time moves. So I just try to do that. I try to stay in the present, even in the studio.

You know, I don't try to have my thoughts already be on when this comes out, and this is gonna be like this, and how's it gonna go? I'm just like, man, let me just like actually hear the music and feel the music and just operate from this place. I love hearing you talk about this, man, because these are some of the principles that I'm constantly sharing in my work.

But hearing how it applies to a music artist in your career brings me so much joy. Because it's practical, it's real. Like you've got time pressures, you've got pressures from labels, collaborations, whatever it may be. Like there were real life pressures. but when I hear you say that, and that's how you fill a line, how did you get introduced to this work or this set of thoughts and beliefs and

mindsets? Was it something that you had since you were a kid or where did you start exploring with the idea of being present, experiencing fear. The present moment is recent, because you know what, I felt almost like, I didn't need to be present, I guess, when I was coming up, because there wasn't anything pulling me away

from the present moment. I kinda only had the present moment, if that makes sense. It was just me and Bougas in the basement making songs, and that was it, there wasn't, tours coming up in videos. There was none of that. But as this past year and past couple years have been happening, I got into the power of now book

and just sort of just the whole ideology around just being present started reading more into that whole theory. And I just, I bought, you know, I bought into it. A lot of this stuff, people don't realize that a lot of this stuff like the teachings, the self-help stuff, you have to be open to receiving it. If you're not open to receiving it, you're not willing to buy into it,

then I hear you, but God bless. I can only tell people it works for me, but it worked for me, being present. Yeah, I love that you mentioned the power of now, and then when you draw about flow state, if anyone is listening, if you've not read that book, it's a brilliant book as well. Flow state. I don't read that book. Yeah, it's called flow. And for anyone who doesn't know, flow, the way it's defined in that book is where your skills meet your challenge. Exactly. So I saw like a YouTube video. Yes, that was like enough for me. I read the book, though. Yeah, no,

no, but you brought it up and it's a brilliant concept and you're experiencing that. Because most people, it says, experience when their challenge is above their skills. And so they feel frustrated, disappointed, and they give up. Yeah, all their skills are above their challenge. And then they feel bored. Because they actually have more skills than what they're trying to achieve. I fell into that a little bit,

which is why I started working with outside producers. Because it was so easy for me to just like go downstairs than what they're trying to achieve. I fell into that a little bit, which is why I started working with outside producers because it was so easy for me to just go downstairs and make a rough song. I have a million beats, I can make it be boom, do this. And it's like, all right, cool, whatever. But I got into a rut creatively, because I was making songs, but I was like,

I don't even, this wasn't even that fun. And I think it was because it wasn't that challenging anymore. So I started working with outside producers where it was like, okay, this is a bit of a challenge. And then further, I started trying to get on beats, even if no one hears them, I started to get on production that I don't like in a sense.

Almost to just be like, can I make a song out of this? Wow. Yeah, just like, because I got the studio in my house and I don't need anyone to record me, so I can just be like, can I make a song out of this? Wow. Yeah, just like because I got the studio in my house and I don't need anyone to record me, so I can just be down there like experimenting. So there's been beats that producers send me and I'm like, I don't like this at all, but I wonder if I can make a song out of it.

And it becomes this cool little like fun project and a lot of times it's turned into songs that I'm like, this is crazy. Wow. I get so much more fulfillment out of it because I couldn't see it coming. A lot of my songs that I'm like, this is crazy. Like I get so much more fulfillment out of it because I couldn't see it coming. A lot of my songs I'm like, when I'm making the beat, I already know what the whole song's gonna sound like.

And most of those usually end up being very successful, so I'm not gonna downplay them, but it does make the process not as on an Easter egg hunt. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So, yeah, yeah. I love hearing that because that's putting yourself in an uncomfortable situation. Right.

And most of us avoid that. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like, most of us just want to hear a beat and feel something straight away. Because people are around other people. I would probably never do that. There was people in the studio with me. Like, actually, out of all the beats you played,

give me the one I don't like, and I'm just going to try to make something, you know what I mean? I like, that's why I always tell people whatever your craft is, make sure you have it in your house if you can, because those moments of solitude, when you can kind of just be weird, and experiment and dance around crazy and be nuts,

that's where you're really gonna, you know, I have a line where I say the public praises people for what they practice in private, I just feel like that's where you're really gonna, you know, I have a line where I say the public praises people for what they practice in private. You know, I just feel like that's when you got a hone in on everything is what you're doing in private. So I'm like, when I'm by myself in the studio, I began weird. Can you tell us what's the weirdest thing that's ever happened? I mean, it's not that weird. It's just like, when I'm by myself, I'll put on a beat that I'm like, I don't even know what I'm about to do on this. And I'll just like, when I buy myself, I'll put on a beat that I'm like, I don't even know what I'm about to do on this.

And I'll just put the auto tune all the way up and go stand in the booth for 60 takes, just whaling and just making noises. And I'll be like, this is wild, or this is trash, or this was really cool. Like I said, my manager is some song I did, where I made a beat and I just put the auto tune on full blast and just freestyle the whole song.

And I was like, I just had to get it out. But it was cool. But like I would never put it out. But it was awesome. This is so inspiring. I love that approach. It's so refreshing hearing that. What's a refreshing process, you know, because you get so rigid, like your process, and

this is what I do. And we sit here and I make this kind of song. It's like every once in a while, you have to shake this snow globe. That's where that whole concept came from. You have to just, you know, it's like the Tin Man. And what's it called? It's like, turn the auto tune up

and put on some crazy, and let me just be a maniac for now. It breaks the formula, we work in this formulaic product line manufacturing. And you can't manufacture great things from school. Yeah, that's from school. School is such a factory setup. You know, how were you at school? What kind of school? I was incredible at school, to be honest. I'm not even a lie. I was just like, I'm really not. I was not one of those like,

yeah, I struggled in school and it was difficult. I was really, really good at school because I wouldn't apply myself, but I was definitely the kid who like didn't study, never did homework, but I would get A's and B's on all the tests. And so that's what I was just like, but I would be like, you know, I was second, I would say this, it's not even something I'm necessarily proud of, but it just gives context.

But like a senior superlative, I was second for most likely to make a teacher retire. Because I was just the kid in class, like constantly talking, distracting people, challenging the teacher, but I had an A in the class. So I was just super annoying. Which I know is a surprise. There's so many people. And so tell me, go back to the point you were making before, before I interjected around

why you think that factory, yes. Well, yeah, because you know, you have an expiration date as a kid in school. You got to be out by a certain time in high school, whatever age it is. Go to this department of the building when the bell rings. You know what I mean? It's just very like, there's no creativity in there. You know, that's why I'm really big on having arts in schools. And just because otherwise, you just, I don't know, that's why I'm really big on having arts in schools and just because otherwise, you just, I don't know, just like crazy robots.

I love that you break the mold. How do you get to a point though, where you've, what I find fascinating, already your process is fascinating to me. What I find more interesting though, is your ability to trust yourself when you come up with something insane. Yeah. Because very few people ever allowed themselves

to do a wild card thing. Now when you do a wild card thing in the studio on your own and you discover something like a sound or a order to you know whatever it is and you discover a beat or a sound that you're like, oh I like this. How do you then trust yourself to go with that? When now when you play it to someone,

they might be like, all right, you're crazy, Ross. Like, this is never gonna work. How do you then approach that? It's that level of, it's that stain of confidence that's just, you can't remove. I just still, like, when I was at this quote, in the interview, I believe, where he said, if it doesn't scare you,

you shouldn't put it out. So, I've always kind of like kept that in the back of my head. You know, I usually move with that. And I'm cool with that. And I like that with my fans. What I've created is this trust and this predictably unpredictable sort of relationship. Where they know, they can expect me to be doing

the unexpected meeting. They know it might be rap, they know it might be singing, but they don't know what it's going to sound like, but they know it's going to be doing the unexpected meeting. They know it might be rap, they know it might be singing, but they don't know what it's gonna sound like, but they know it's gonna be me. And so I think I've done a very good job at painting my canvas and kind of giving people who I am. So it's allowed me a lot of creative freedom. I always tell up when coming artists,

like when you're coming up and you're building your fan base, you're conditioning them to expect a certain thing from you, a certain sound or whatever. You're creating this creative window. A lot of people, if you just come up only wrapping, and you get your whole fan base off of only wrapping, let's say you just, you haven't really fully tapped into you yet, and now you want to start singing.

A lot of fans are going to be like, you switched up, what are you doing? And you know, you can lose a lot of people and they might think that you're changing when really the whole time. That's been you. You just didn't have enough time to discover it. So I was really proud of myself that I was able to kind of give people the whole scope of my creativity so that when I do go left field, no one's gonna be like, what are you doing? Because it's kind of like, oh yeah, that's rust just being rust. We know that sometimes it's given us red,

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Take good care. Just spending this time with you already and even when you came in and stuff like you're someone who's It's very comfortable in their own skin, but at the same time you're not arrogant and ego-tested and so I don't feel Everyone here that yeah, I'm just I'm just you know, no I agree to I think I thought it's the only I don't have an ego no no no no no I mean in the sense of let's yeah Let's talk about ego for a bit because, and I mean it in a good way.

I was saying as a compliment that from what I'm hearing or at least, and I'm only basing on this conversation I've had with you, but it's like there's a stability between like knowing you wanna learn more and be better, but you are confident about who you are and where you are, which is a beautiful place to be, by the way. Like, thank you.

Who doesn't wanna be between those two things? Yeah. How have you tempered that ego that we all have with the desire to learn and grow and realize there's more to go? But I'm really happy with what I've done. Because that's what I'm hearing. But I want to kind of break that down for people

because I think a lot of people live in either extreme. Either they're celebrating their last win for like seven years, or they're just like, on the worst, I'm never going to win, I'm never going to win and they don't appreciate where they are. Yeah, I think for me, to be honest, despite perception or whatever, I had to hype myself up. I had to be the biggest believer of myself, that's the only reason why any of this work.

And because I'm very vocal about it, because I'm putting it out into the universe so that it comes back, it could come off. Like, I think I have nothing left to learn and nobody can offer me anything, and I know it. It's like, no, y'all just don't know what self-belief sounds like, clearly. You might know what it looks like, and some people are just more quiet

about their self-belief just to get people to like them, otherwise you get kind of my perception. But, but no, I've always still been a massive fan of people and a massive supporter of anything dope. Anyone that knows me from when I was nothing to now, from two years old to now, like if you're dope at anything, I'm always the first person to like root for you, DM you, send you advice,

like, bro, hit me any time, and even just looking up to people. I'm a fan out. I'm like, yo, you're incredible. I would love to work with you. I'm not person too. So it's the duality. You are able to have the utmost confidence in yourself while still also knowing that, okay, but this person is really dope too. And if we come together, it could be really fire. I'm just really confident in myself. And so, I'm not desperate to reach after a collab and things like that, but doesn't mean I don't think that

I know everything. And, you know, I'm always asking all my engineer friends, like, yo, what plug-in is that? Like, this is crazy, yo, you're fired. And, you know, and people guys, you can ask even like kids super. When I first met him, the dude who made this sweater,

he did my gypsy video years ago, like 2014. And when I first met him, he thought I was hella weird because, or like socially awkward, because I kept giving him mad compliments because I was so, it was like my first real kind of video issue, even though it wasn't like some big production. But I was just so enamored by the process,

and I thought it was so dope that I'm just, like that's who I am. I'm a very complimentary person, and like I'm always gonna give people their flowers, and he was just like, I'm like, no, I genuinely feel like that. So I don't know, I've always been able to have that level of duality. Yeah, I love the idea of that paradox So I don't know, I've always been able to have that level of duality. Yeah, I love the idea of that paradox.

Like it feels like it's not allowed. Like if sounds like it should not be possible to think both those things. Yeah. But actually that's where all the magic happens. I agree. Right. Like we always think, now you have to choose, you have to decide or you're either raw, but actually hearing you say that, yeah,

actually I think both those things. I love how that doesn't stop you from appreciating others. Who was it that appreciated your sound earlier on that you think made a difference to you and guided you? Or was it just you for yourself? It was me and probably Bougas. Like, you know, for the longest time, it was just Bougus rapping and me producing.

And that was my closest example of, like, someone who I thought had really good taste and I trusted their opinion artistically. So when Bugus gave me the green light to be like, yo, yeah, you should rap, it was just kind of like, okay, he will game over for everyone else like if Bugusy sings his tight.

And that's how it still is. You only need one, but it's important to have at least one person who believes in you, sometimes almost more than you. And there is no jealousy or weird, you can't win because then I won't win. Like it's a very weird thing. So I always, you know, command Boogey is for being like the best friend you could have in something that I'm't win. It's a very weird thing. So I always come and boogie it for being the best friend you could have in something that I'm doing. You know what I mean?

Yeah, let's talk about that. I like what you brought there about men specifically. And you took me straight back to my teenagers where I'd be best friend with a dude and he'd be like my brother, but then we'd go out and he'd be like, all right, let's see you can get more girls today. Right, that would be his mentality.

Or like, oh, let's see who will be better at the sport today. I've realized that everyone in my life or male relationships, if every time a guy, a friend of mine has tried to turn a friendship into a competition, they haven't lost it in my life. Yeah. Like, they're no longer in my life because I just wanted to be friends.

When I don't get me wrong, me and Boogeys dumb competitive. We played basketball together. Right. Anything me and Boogeys dumb competitive. We played basketball together. Anything me and Boogeys will turn into a competition for sure, but when it comes to a dream you're following after, it's never like, yo, how many streams is your song? You know what I'm saying? It's never been that, but me and Boogeys, we've been competing and going out each other since we were 12. So how do you build that balance?

What is it about him and what is it about you that allows you to build that kind of a friendship? Because I think that's red. Yeah, I think especially in today's social media world, stream world, I mean followers, views, comments, engagement, all this stuff that we will talk about. I think we're both trying to do the same thing. We were both real friends before all this. We read Napoleon Hill, so we understand the power of a mastermind.

And we just, as big of egos as me and him have, we never let it get in the way of supporting one another and any of that. So I don't know. I just think it comes down to the person, like, how real are you? Some people are just fake. And this is what it is. Yeah. Yeah.

No, and that idea of being able to have at least even one person, like you said, just one. You don't need, yeah, because sometimes we try, we want 10 or 20 like that, and you're right for most of us, we're lucky to have one. Yeah, and that's a good enough start. You mentioned Napoleon Hill and Mastermind, when, what age were you when you read that book?

17, Boogeys gave me the book. So Booogies was putting me on to a lot of that stuff. He put me on to Napoleon Hill. He put me on to the alchemist. That's the thing. We weren't just like the, I would say the typical 17, 18 year olds, hanging out. We graduated high school 17 and we just were locked in the studio from then until now.

So it was a lot of self discoverydiscovery, but out the gate, once we left high school, we were reading those books. So it was just kind of like, we were ready to go mentally. Like we read those books, and we were both the kind of people that we buy into something quick, and then we latch onto it, and then that's that. You know, if that's what we believe, you can't tell us anything different.

I went vegan for a year because I watched one documentary and like, that was that. Like, once something clicks in my brain, I'm done. You know what I mean? Like, right now, I haven't had bread or grains in two weeks because I just like woke up and it clicked. Like, my brother, the nutritionist told me, and I latched onto him. Boom, that's it.

I've like, me and him have always been very good at just once we decide something, that's what it is. He lost a bunch of weight, you know, 30, 40 pounds because he just decided, I'm done, you know? So once me and him decided, this is what we were doing with our lives, there was no, yeah, but maybe we're not doing it with our lives or this was it. And we were both fully committed.

And every day and every, like every second of our lives was committed to this, you know. Every choir is such a level of discipline to like make a choice and to stick with it. And I find like that's something a lot of a struggle with today. I'm terrible at discipline. And I've always been terrible at work ethic. But then I realized that it was the work and not my work ethic. It was the work, you know, I didn't have good work at thick in school because I didn't like the work.

It's not hard to get up and do something you love every day. And I think people get judged off their work ethic incorrectly because they get judged. Their work ethic is judged off of how well and how consistent they're doing work. They don't enjoy. How can you judge somebody off of that? They judge me off of, you know, what I love, that's how I can really tell if you're about it

and not like, you say you love this, you say you love basketball and I know you do. But you just, you're not putting in the work. That's how I know you're not really about it. Now I can judge you accurately. But if you're like, if you're a basketball player and you love basketball, but somebody's judging you off of how well you do paintings and every day you're in the art studio, that's not even fair. I love that. What do you think is the most

difficult thing you've been through personally? Like what's been a moment of time in your life where you felt you were really battling with something to overcome it. 2018 was pretty rough for me just because when I was 17, and I had this vision of what my life was gonna be and what it was going to be like to be on and successful and a musician and money and fame and whatever, I had this very innocent, just the world is made out of like marshmallows

and cotton candy, perspective on it, you know? And when I got on, it started off like that. But then it very quickly turned and I got this very nasty side of like fame where there's a lot of negativity and hate and narratives and things that are out of your control and things that are so frustrating and trying to fight everything

because I'm a fighter, you know, and I'm competitive and I don't like just rolling over. So this isn't a broken version of success. This just is success. This comes with it. I didn't plan for that. I thought once you get on, everything is perfect and everything is fine

because that's what you think when you're 17. So that was stuff just like the dose of reality of like, oh, okay, this is not what I thought it was going to be. But that has to be okay because this is what it is. That's such a brilliant thought that you just said that it wasn't a broken version of success. That just was success. And it's so interesting because you're so right that when we're teens,

we think we're going to get to a place where it doesn't matter. And even now, I think a lot of people look at people like yourself and other people that we both made know in our lives. And people just be like, oh, yeah, but that person's life, everything probably just works out just the way they want it. Well, like that's what's so frustrating, right? Is that people on the outside looking in their response to everything any famous person is going through is you have millions of dollars. Why do you care about anything? It's like, what do y'all think money is?

According to most people's theory, once you have fame and money, you have no emotions. That's it. You're no longer a human is what you're trying to tell me. I shouldn't feel sad, niche. I shouldn't feel anything because I have money and fame. It's like, okay, let's run with that. Fine, I'll buy into that for the sake of the conversation. However, if you're telling me now that because of money, I'm above certain human emotions,

then you're telling me I'm above you. So now when I act like I'm above you, don't now also come back and say, why are you acting like you're better than me? Well, you just told me I'm better than you because I don't even have the same emotions you have. So which one is it? Am I better than you or do I experience the same emotions as you?

It can't be both. That's why I encourage people on the outside looking at you just shut up. So you know, I'll take a more compassionate empathetic line, but yes, in the same idea of, yes, like the idea of, I love the way you explain that. I think it's a great way of cutting through the noise because it's so easy because also when we think someone is safe from human emotion because of money and fame, then we think when we think someone is safe from human emotion because of money and fame,

then we think when we get money and fame, we will also be free of human emotion. So you're in for a rude awakening. Right, exactly. We're projecting you onto you, but then you're setting the same standard for yourself of I hope, and I literally, I've had, I think every person who's rich and famous

will say the same thing. It's just like, hey, this is what it really ended up as. It's gone, sorry. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no You know, I think the beauty of understanding is understanding when you don't understand Mm-hmm And I always say that I think there's understanding in understanding that you don't understand Yeah, like a lot of people need to accept that you don't get it. Yeah And that is Being compassionate. Yeah, like I can hear you, but it doesn't mean that I feel you know

It doesn't mean that I get it, you know, that's it. That's it Well said man, that is so true. I think that was, yeah, that's such a great definition of compassion that you just gave because I think even when, that even when someone calls you up and said, hey, my parent just, I had a friend tell me this, my parent just got diagnosed with stage 4 cancer. Yeah.

It's like, I can't empathize. I've never been in that position. Yeah. So I can't be like, oh, I feel you, I get it. Right. I have to understand that I don't understand. That you don't understand. That I can't empathize. I've never been in that position. So I come like, all I feel you, I get it. I have to understand that I don't understand. That you don't understand. That I don't understand. But that is understanding. Correct, yes.

Yes. And sometimes that's all people are looking for in those moments. It's just like, I just want you to be here and present. I don't expect you to get it. You know, it's the people who try to act like they get it. That actually makes you feel even more alone. It's like, wow, you're really showing me that you have no clue who's going on. It's one thing to not know is going on and to not understand. It's a whole nother thing to act like you do when you don't.

When you're talking about this time in your life, the 2018, when you're experiencing success, not broken success in your words, what's your process of getting out of it? Of figuring it out even before you try to get out of it. Letting go of my hold onto what it needs to be. That was the ego. The ego was like, it's supposed to be like this though, and it's supposed to be what it is. And once I let go of all that,

and then that's why I came out with Shake the Snow Globe because I realized I just needed to reset and unjade. I was like, man, it is what it is. It just is what it is. Like, it's what it's supposed to be. And as long as I'm still operating from a place of love and a place of wanting to share, I'm gonna be I, you know, be what it needs to be, you know?

And that time is also what led to the book in 2019, it's all in your head. Which it was all in my head. A lot of times in my life, I kind of sometimes accidentally speak things into existence. So I had the title of, it's all in your head for years. Like I always had this idea of writing that. From a positive standpoint, obviously, like, you know,

manifesting itself self-belief and all those things, but it's funny that I had this title that's on your head, right? You're your own worst enemy or your own biggest fan, you pick, whatever it is. And then while I have this title, 2018 happens, and I'm losing to myself, mentally, you know, I had to snap out of it.

It was just one of those things why I needed to like listen to my own advice and be like, bro, it's all in your head now. But now on the negative side, but it's a choice at this point. Do you want to fight everything and fight the whole world? Or do you want to let it go? Yeah, I was writing the book quite therapeutic in that because I almost feel like when you're writing a book code, it's In Your Head, it's far more simple to go in with because you're kind of dealing with topics and themes that work for you. What was the biggest thing that you put in the book that you felt was what helped you overcome and what's in that whole book?

And especially the process of it, it was like an interview. So I had this woman who would come and she had the tape recorder. And I had all the chapters mapped out like what I was, you know, because it was all song titles. So I knew it's a chapters running and I knew what I was going to talk about. I just needed somebody to help me organize all my thoughts. She would come with the tape recorder and just we would go chapter by chapter and she would say, okay, we'll talk about manifestant what it means to you and I would just talk. And so it was really like a week and a half of therapy sessions and then we organized all of it together

and I did my stuff and whatever. And it was like, man, this was, that's why I love that book because it's really me. Like that was me talking to a therapist for a week and a half in a book. I love it. Yeah, and how amazing is that that people have that accessible to them. Right.

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It's not necessarily just seeing it, ooh, I can see myself with money and I like, then that's it, now you're going to get money. It's more so knowing it and also feeling it and not just, oh, like I said, you can see the beach house. You bought your mom. It's, what does it feel like though? What do you do? Like, what does it feel like when you see your mom's reaction to getting the beach house and can you, can you feel that? Can you feel the car turning the corner to the beach? It's about immersing yourself in that feeling as if it was going on right now. And when you do that on a daily basis, it's not long before reality catches up with your thoughts. And like I said, it just has to be something you believe and buy into

this whole theory. If you believe that we are just the universe experiencing itself and we're all in tune and connected to the infinite and all these things, then you're going to be fine as far as this you know method goes but if you don't then it's not for you you know and was that the best thing you manifested? The beach hours. Yeah it was one of them for sure. Just like this whole career man, just this whole life was a complete product of love of attraction, but also being proactive. I wasn't just saying that. That's what I was going to ask you.

Yeah, no, you don't just like click your heels and go back to Kansas. Yeah. I mean, like, tell us about the work. Tell us about the product. The actual like, so we get it, the immersion, the feeling, and I know you're doing the other part too. Tell us about the strategy, the networking, the actual skill. Yeah.

Because you have to have a skill, right? Well, skill can get developed, you know. Skill is developed. I was not the most skilled when I started at all. All of it sucked. You know, you develop skill through repetition and through practice and putting in the work. But yeah, I don't think people understand

that you actually need to put in the work and be persistent. You just also have to couple it with a very positive mindset. But Will Smith talks about the concept of, and I've mentioned this a lot, like laying a break a day until you have a wall. I think his dad took them, you know the story I'm talking about, they did the break a day. Like how are we going to build a wall? You go out there and you lay a break a day.

So I really resonate with that whole story and concept. And I think it's really true. I think a lot of people are just focused on the whole bigger picture and like, how am I gonna be this famous musician? Like I haven't even made a song yet. It's like you're not supposed to be thinking about like, all that to the point where it's daunting and crippling.

You're just supposed to, you know what? I know I'm gonna get there. I can feel what it's like, but in the meantime, I'm a layer of brick-a-dame, I make a song a day, I make a beat-a-day, I find samples every day, I study every day, as long as you're doing something towards the bigger picture, a small thing every day, you're good. That's real, that's real, and that's how it has to be built. Everyone always think it's like that, the wallet and knowledge that you're talking about.

You kind of just turn up, I was thinking about that one day, I was looking out into the city of LA, and I was just thinking like, someone had to think about this. Right. I was into bi-recent, I was thinking the same,

it's like, it's just a desert. No, it's a bunch of ideas. Yeah, and someone had to think about it first, like they would have looked out until like desert, and had to think about it, but we don't think about that because we walk into a city. That's what I find fascinating is that every day

you're walking around in somebody's idea. That's how you know thoughts are powerful. We're sitting in such, like this chair with somebody's idea to make it look like this and the cushions to be this soft and these shoes, like you're just constantly surrounded by other people's ideas. And I think the really cool thing about free will is contributing your ideas back into the infrastructure of what's already going on.

That's so powerful man. Yeah. Well, you just said no, it's so powerful. How do we know if our ideas good or is that even the right question? I don't think that's the right question. I think is it serviceable, you know, does it help? Is it just for you or is it, are you serving a bigger purpose? That's why I think music is really great because it's a service for the world. We're providing, you know, big or small, however you want to quantify it is on you. But it's definitely a service that we're providing. And I realized, you know, after I got money and fame and whatever, I was like, man, the whole point of this,

like I literally said this to myself the other day in the shower, this is where all my ideas happen. And I don't feel bad about it. I don't feel bad about that because Ferrell said the same thing. But I literally just blurted out. I was like, I need more money so I can help more people. It was just like a thing that blurted out.

I was like, yeah, that's the whole point of all this. I had this like epiphany where I was like, I'm 28. I made it. The only thing left to do is obviously I keep making it, but it's to help other people make it, you know? And I just think that our goal is to just give. And I think there's a very misled sort of idea that we're supposed to be getters. Bougain's actually mentioned this concept to me about being a go-giver instead of a go-getter. I think a lot of times especially with music, success, fame, we're just thinking about what can we get, you know,

and what can I get from the world when I put this song out and so on and so forth. But it's more so and what can I get from the world when I put this song out and so on and so forth, but it's more so about what can I give to the world? Tell me about a message or a piece of fan mail or an experience you've had with a fan or a listener that made you realize how impactful music is on someone. I'm sure you've had some phenomenal and you know, it's so many, man. Yeah, honestly, I'm so fortunate that I have so many, but every day people are sending me messages of, you save my life and you meet people

and they're crying their eyes out because it's like you helped them so much. And that's, you know, that's when you realize it's just way bigger than you, you know, it's just way bigger than you. I'm just excited to keep giving to the world. And I know that could sound cliche and you don't believe that I'm actually that generous,

but it's really like anyone around me knows, like I'm always trying to help. I'm always trying to give people money or whatever, just because it's like, my mom told me a long time ago when I first started getting money, she said, money is meant to change people's realities. And so if you have the ability to do it, you should.

So I get a kick out of just like, I'll see a fan on Twitter and they're raising money for their dance program. I'm just like here, a kid will send me a DM, my mom's funeral. And I'm just like, why not? And will send me a DM, like, my mom's funeral and I'm just like, why not? And I don't need to post about it. It's just, it's what you're supposed to do.

You're supposed to give it back. And I think I'm also a very big believer in not blocking the natural flow of the universe. And I think money is a force of energy. And when you get it and you're just focused on keeping it, you're gonna lose it. So I always get money and give it right back. And I think that's why I keep coming in.

That's just give it away. Yeah, and it's given in your own way, right? Like I think what I love about what you're saying and you took about the cliche of giving to me, it's you figured out how you like giving. Yeah. And that's what matters for all of us, because some people are gonna do charity work, some people are gonna build schools, figured out how you like giving. Yeah. And that's what matters for all of us,

because some people are going to do charity work, some people are going to build schools, some people are going to support the people around them, some people are going to help a person on Twitter or whatever who can't even pay for their mother's funeral, or whatever it is, the point is, if supporting in the way you can, and in the way you feel called to,

is that's all you have. And it tripped me out when, like I said, when Boogie's brought this concept to me. And... Go give her. Yeah, go give her. And I was like, man, I never fully understood the complete reason why I got so much out of life already.

And he was like, it's because you gave so much. And I never thought about it like that. But you know, when you think about, you know, I have more songs out than some of the veterans in the game, most of them, you know, I got 500 songs, I just like, the game I give, to try, like, I give a lot, and I don't think about it while I'm doing it.

I'm like, I'm about to give this so I can get it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You know, I'm about to give this so I can get it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm just giving it because I naturally want to do that, but it makes a lot of sense that, you know, givers get more than the getters. Yeah. And even when you're giving, and it's not even being loved or received that way,

but you continue to give. Yeah. Because sometimes it's easy to give when everyone's kind of like, oh, we love you to give it a validation, but sometimes you're just giving because. Well, see, but if you're only giving it to get something back, then you're not giving me anything

you're loaning it. So I always tell people, I say, like, women, okay, who does? Don't give me love if you're only giving it to get something back, then it's conditional, and it's not giving you're loaning me love. You're only loaning me love for an extended period of time until I give it back.

I don't do that. I give love and give game and give money and whatever it is. I don't expect anything back. I give it because that feels like the right thing to do in it aligns with my spirit. How do you feel or how do you respond when you realize someone just learned it to you when you thought that they were giving it. I expect most people to act like that. Right. Because most people are like that. Most people are out for self, they're very self-serving. I know that most people are operating from a place of,

I'm not doing any favors. I'm not doing anything for free. So I'm not really surprised. I'm not that naive. You can be naive if you wanted to. The point of like, I really thought you were just helping me out. I'm not that naive. You can be naive if you want to the point of like, I really thought you were just helping me out. It's like, okay.

You know, I don't assume anyone's just helping me out. I like, you get in trouble and you get your feelings hurt when you assume people are as kind as you. Or people, you know, not to be like, I'm the most kind person ever, but you can get your feelings hurt if you assume everyone is like you. That's when you get disappointed and you suffer

and the whole thing was suffering, it comes from attachment. So if you get attached to the idea that, oh, well, they're gonna operate how I'm operating, you're gonna suffer. So I try not to get attached to anything really. I see only time people suffer is when there's attachment involved.

You're not gonna freak out if a water bottle right here gets burned or your table gets burned. You're not that attached to the table. That's when you got to choose in life what's worth getting attached to, which I really think it's people and animals, people and pets, it's about it. Everything else is pretty replaceable off top of my head. I'm going to add people pets in purpose. We'll add a third one.

Sure. People pets in purpose. I like that. But even the purpose, it's hard, you know, you get so attached to that, you can suffer a lot along the way. Yeah. Things don't go the way you want them.

That's what happened to me in 2018. I was suffering because it wasn't going the way I was attached to. And once I let go of that attachment to how I thought it was supposed to go, I was fine. You know, sure there's dips in here and there, but for the most part, I'm good. Yeah, I always say to people, you get the way you want in life, just not in the way you imagined it. Yeah, or when. Yeah, or when you imagined it. And that's the challenge,

right? It's like you have reality. And then you have your projector screen up here. Yeah. You're trying to make this projector screen happen, but this is reality right now. Yeah, and that's what you're actually going through. Just have faith that whatever you want, you're gonna get it in whatever life you want, you're gonna achieve it, but it doesn't matter when. That should be irrelevant, you know? You can't put a deadline on your own success.

It's crazy. It ruins people. You know those people that are like, by 30, if I don't have, and it's like then, what's gonna happen at 30 if you don't? You know what I'm saying? Like, what happens? You know?

Totally, it's crazy. And you don't know when. Yeah, you don't. You know, you're 28 now. Like, my life took off externally. Internally, my journey started at 16. Sure. But extending my journey started at 16. Sure. But externally, my journey started at 28.

Wow. And so, you know, I'm 33 now, and it's just interesting. It's like, you just don't know when, what's going to happen. And you just... But you trusted the way. But you believed in. Yeah, I loved that. Trust the world.

Yeah. That's really beautiful, man. Dude, this has been one of the most refreshing conversations that I had in a long time. Nice. I love how you've brought everything you've learned along the way and made it so practical in your actual life. I've had to make sense of my whole everything.

Like, yeah, but you've really made sense of it. Like, when I'm listening to you, I'm like, wow, this is, you know, you can tell that Russ is reflected and deeply internalized these concepts because it's really easy to say the stuff, but the practical aspects of it of how you live it is what's blown me away. Yeah, I appreciate it.

Well, I always tell people being a musician, it's such a self-discovery thing. Like, you learn just so much about yourself, and the universe when you're an artist, it's such about, like, diving deep into the depths of yourself and discovering you. And when you're making, when you're the type of artist, I feel like I am, which is, I'm trying to talk about the truth.

I'm trying to help people. I had to kind of, those self-help books and just kind of moving through this journey. I had to find the way to apply all this stuff to my life in a practical, productive way. You can tell, man. Yeah. You can tell it. Thank you.

But yeah, we end every interview, the final five. So this is a rapid fire, fast-quive. Okay. So you're going to answer every question in one word or one sentence maximum. Fire. So that's where every one of them is. Easy for you. You're a lyricist.

Yeah. You know, there's a easy for you. All right, the first question is, what's the best advice you've ever received? What if it can turn out better than you can imagine? Second question, what's the worst advice you've ever received? Be realistic. Nice. That's a good, that's a good one. All right, third question, what's one thing you're trying to learn or grow and develop right now? More of a affinity and appreciation for the present moment. I like that. All right, question number four. What's one thing that you think other people value,

but you don't value? I don't know. What do people value that I think is dumb? Crocs. Good outside. Good outside. All right. I agree. Yeah. Good. All right. Fifth and final question. If you could create one law in the world that everyone had to follow, what would it be? The golden rule, bro, that they teach you in fifth grade. Like, do one to others as they would. You know what I mean? If everyone had to only treat people the way that they would be treated, I think obviously the world would be in a much better spot. You'd be much more conscious of like, all right, maybe I shouldn't do this.

But the thing that's funny about that I always laugh when people think they get away with something, you didn't. There's always, to me, I believe the universe is seeing everything. Jay, like China guys is lying ways. The universe is listening, be careful what you saying. You might think you got over on me, you did it. Somebody saw. Good luck, enjoy that. And the worst thing is you saw some way deep inside of yourself.

Yeah. And that's the worst one. That's the one that eats you up the most. Everyone rusts. This has been honestly one of my favorite conversations. Yeah, and that's the worst one. I feel like that's the one that each of the most everyone rust This has been honestly one of my favorite conversations. Thank you. That was really awesome. There are so many things you shared that I Hope everyone who's listening watching is gonna go back and listen to watch and write notes I didn't tell you at the start But now I'm like you should have taken notes because this is one of those episodes where there were just so many practical examples of Not listening to people's opinions finding solitude for your creativity, allowing yourself to be wild and insane on your own

so you can discover new things about yourself, the ability to balance confidence with humility at the same time. I mean, you've just been dropping. I've caused a whole time. I really liked the way you framed all the questions, though, because it had me thinking in ways I wasn't. Like, I never really thought about the duality of the ego while also being a fan and just

being, I never told anyone about being crazy in the studio when you're by yourself, like the auto tune thing. I love that. That was one of my favorite things. But no, I appreciate it, man. And I hope everyone who's listening and watching, going grab a copy of Russ's book, it's all in your head. It will be a great read for you if you love this conversation. And of course, all the music, all the albums about it. Thank you for coming on on

Purpose, man. And we hope we can have you back for part two. For sure. Yeah, we should do this regularly because I feel like it'll be nice to see your evolution and your growth as time goes on. Yeah, it's awesome. Thank you, Russ. Thank you. Thank you. Everyone who's listening and watching, thank you for watching on Purpose. And I want you to tag me and Russ on Instagram with the things that stood out to you on Twitter as well. What is it that you heard? What is it that he said that you just can't stop thinking about and you want to share with your friends. Make sure you tag both of us. I love noticing what really resonates with you guys. Thank you again for listening and watching. We'll see you next time. Okay, I have some big news. Thanks to all of your support, I have been nominated for a

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