On Purpose with Jay Shetty - The 5 Relationships You Need To Invest in to Supercharge Your 2024 (Backed By Science)

Episode Date: January 19, 2024

Do you want your relationships in 2024 to uplift you and the others around you? Do you want your relationships to bring you energy and not drain you? Then this episode is for you. Today, Jay shares in...sights on building stronger connections. Discover the proactive steps to create bonds that will withstand the test of time, moving beyond surface-level ties. Uncover the five types of relationships you can invest in for genuine and enduring connections. Jay explores the concept of belonging—the magic that happens when we become part of a community. From the joy of shared experiences to the comfort of knowing you're not alone. Your journey can take an introspective turn when you look deep into the vital relationship with ourselves—the key to true independence and the layers of self-discovery and the profound impact it has on our overall well-being. In this episode, you’ll learn: How to boost your existing relationships How to create new and better relationships How to be more in-tune with yourself How to upgrade your connections and community Join Jay as he guides us through the transformative power of relationships built on selfless love and devotion. With Love and Gratitude, Jay Shetty What We Discuss: 00:00 Intro 01:56 The 5 Types of Relationships We Need in Our Life 03:16 Type #1: Belonging - Being a Part of a Community 09:32 Type #2: Legacy - Feeling Connected to Something Bigger 14:11 Type #3: Independence - A Relationship with Ourselves 18:33 Type #4: Safety Relationships - The People that Bring Stability in Our Lives 23:39 Type 35: Service - Relationships Based on Surrender and Service See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:02:06 So often I find that the people who are closest are sometimes the most distant because they're scared or blocked by fear of judgment to share how they truly feel. The number one health and wellness podcast. J.S.S.J.S.S.J.S.S.S.S.S.S.S.S.S.S.S.S.S.S.S.S.S.S.S.S.S.S.S.S.S.S.S.S.S.S.S.S.S.S.S.S.S.S.S.S.S.S.S.S.S.S.S.S.S.S.S.S.S.S.S.S.S.S.S.S.S.S.S.S.S.S.S.S.S.S.S.S.S.S.S.S.S.S.S.S.S.S.S.S.S.S.S.S.S.S.S.S.S.S.S.S.S.S.S.S.S.S.S.S.S.S.S.S.S.S.S.S.S.S.S.S.S.S.S.S.S.S.S.S.S.S.S.S.S.S.S.S.S.S.S.S.S.S.S.S.S.S.S.S.S.S.S.S.S.S.S.S.S.S.S.S.S.S.S.S.S.S.S.S.S.S.S.S.S.S.S.S.S.S.S.S.S.S.S. Uh-uh. Hey everyone, welcome back to On Purpose. Welcome to On Purpose of 2024. I am so happy with the incredible listening, viewing, sharing, insights that you're pouring into social media. And it's been phenomenal for me to see your response to our new branding, our new logo. I hope that you love it.
Starting point is 00:02:49 We wanted to create something natural and organic that really brought to life what we uncover here, which is for each and every one of you who give me your precious time every week to feel seen, heard and understood. Thank you so much for all the reviews on Apple and on Spotify. I read them regularly and they genuinely touch my heart and move my heart. And I just want to say thank you. I appreciate you deeply. I have been spending the first couple of weeks at the Ashram that I trained at during my time as a monk in India and it
Starting point is 00:03:27 has been a beautiful time for me to go deeper, for me to immerse, for me to truly absorb the energy that I want for the rest of the year, to give to all of you, to share with all of you. I was here with Rade then she had to leave, I was here with some friends and it allowed me to make space in my mind and heart to have the reflections and the realizations that allow me to give through on purpose. And today, I want to share with you and talk to you about the five types of relationships we need in our life and how to let go and make space for the ones that no longer serve us in 2024. Relationships are at the heart of our effectiveness, our performance, our habits, an order of our relationships. We don't often think about them deeply or if we do, we do so in a crisis.
Starting point is 00:04:32 Right, we wait for something to go completely wrong to think about how to improve our relationships. This podcast is for you. If you want your relationships in 2024 to uplift you and you wanna uplift others, if you want your relationships to be ones that bring you energy, not bring you energy, this podcast is for you. So share this with someone who's also been trying to create a community, someone who's been trying to figure out ways of building deeper bonds and deeper relationships.
Starting point is 00:05:02 If you wanna go beyond the shallow, this is the episode for you. Now I'm going to break this down as the five types of relationships we need. The first one is belonging. We need to feel a sense of connectedness to others and a sense of belonging that we're a part of a group that we're not alone, that we're part of a community. And I think this is true for all of us, right? We really crave
Starting point is 00:05:33 being a part of a group of people who make us realize that we have similar challenges, similar problems. We're going through similar things in our lives. We feel a sense of the ability to focus on the fact that we're not the exception, but we are having a similar life experience to others and that's hope giving for us. There's a study that shares that when humans feel they belong, it tends to create inner harmony and balance. Research has shown that feeling part of a group can lead to better mental and physical health.
Starting point is 00:06:13 For instance, individuals who feel a sense of belonging experience fewer negative emotions such as sadness, loneliness, anger and grief. And I'm sure we're all listening to that saying, Jai, I want that. And I think we often think of like I need friends and I want people around me. But the word belonging is a really interesting word because we don't often use it, right? We don't often say, I really wish at a sense of belonging. Or maybe you do. And you're already getting it right. But when you look at the definition of the word belonging, it often refers to to be a member of a group or organization and to have a right or usual place.
Starting point is 00:06:54 And what I like about the idea of being a member is? What organizational group do we subscribe to? Do we have sense of identity that comes from our belonging? And it's really that identity part that makes the difference. Do we feel that part of identity is inspired by a group of thinking? I really want you to focus in 2024 on recognizing what groups, what communities do you need to invest more in? Is it groups and communities that exist out there? Is it a group and community you need to build? I want to give you an example. And I think this may resonate with many of you. I have been a part of several groups since I was young. And recently I was thinking about a lot of my male friends. And when I've had one-to-one conversations or I've spoken to other men in my community,
Starting point is 00:07:52 I often am exposed to their challenges and issues. And I notice that as a group, we may be struggling to heal. That there are certain traumas individually that are now being experienced collectively. But there has been a nostalgic, historic friendship, but it hasn't translated into an intimacy and trust. Now, there's the trust of, hey, we can do things together,
Starting point is 00:08:22 we can build things together, but there isn't the trust of, hey, we can do things together, we can build things together. But there isn't the trust of, I need to look at some of the things that are broken within me. There's the focus of, we want to build outside of ourselves, but we don't want to build what's broken inside of ourselves. There's the energy of, let's go and do things and create things together, but there is an a sense of I need to spend some time becoming and being. And so I was thinking about this. One of the things that I want to do to create belonging is I want to create a men's group
Starting point is 00:08:58 with some of my friends that I grew up with. And I want to invite therapists and coaches and guides and teachers to come in and facilitate sessions for us not only so that we can do our own healing but so that we can deepen our relationships with each other. It's normal. It doesn't matter how long you've known someone, how long you've known someone does not define how deeply you know them. You may know their mannerisms, you may know their reactions, but the depth of their heart.
Starting point is 00:09:31 So often I find that the people who are closest are sometimes the most distant because they're scared or blocked by fear of judgment to share how they truly feel. And I'm sure you can relate to that, that you want to share something with your friend, but you know you can't, because you're scared of the shame, the guilt, the potential judgment, and it's not that you think that person thinks wrong of you, but there's a part of you that judges yourself.
Starting point is 00:09:57 And so to me, I really believe that I always want to live by Gandhi's words of being the change I want to see in the world, and creating an environment where me and my male friends that I always want to live by Gandhi's words of being the change I want to see in the world. And creating an environment where me and my male friends can have a safe space to feel secure, to open up to share our challenges in a place that isn't based on judgment. If you share your heart and you feel judged, do you open or close up? If you share your heart and you feel judged, do you open up again?
Starting point is 00:10:27 If you share your heart and the other person uses that information against you in the future, does it mean you'll have a relationship with them in the future? So I want you to think about belonging as beyond like, oh yeah, I go to that thing, oh yeah, I know that look for the real need in your group, the need in your community, what are people starving of, what are people unfulfilled by, and where is that coming from, and how can you introduce that sense of belonging? Belonging isn't just about hanging out and supporting the same football team,
Starting point is 00:11:04 and that's an important part of it. But there's a great adept to it that I think we're all searching for. Do you need to start that book club? Do you need to start that podcast club? What are you going to do to sit there and discuss this and say, Hey, like, what are we going to start for our community? I shared with you what I want to do for mine. What are you going to do for yours? So there's a sense of belonging. It's a relationship that's really important in our lives. The next one is legacy.
Starting point is 00:11:32 Now, legacy often is something people think about like what will happen when I die and I'm no longer here and what will be my legacy. And really, legacy is about feeling connected to something bigger. Do we have relationships that make us feel that we're all connected to something bigger? Belonging is we're all connected more deeply. We're all connected more deeper. But legacy is we're all connected to something bigger. Now, when I was in London at the start of the year just before I came to India, I reached out to some of my friends and people who have been
Starting point is 00:12:12 incredible guests on the podcast. Some of them could come, some of them couldn't. And I organized a dinner in London where we sat down and we answered three questions. So these were people in the wellness space, people who I think are having an impact in the world, people who are transforming other people's lives through their skill sets and what they know. And I'll even share with you what I called it. I said, this is the message I sent to them. I said, community has been the most important pillar
Starting point is 00:12:42 in my life. I'm sure you've experienced that too, especially communities that are dedicated to creating change, inspiring people and helping others. I'm grateful for the work you do in the world and thought it might be nice to be together with more purposeful people to celebrate growth, exchange ideas and hopefully leave with new friends. I really hope you can make it and then it said the address and the time and all the rest of it. And what was really interesting for me
Starting point is 00:13:09 is that a lot of these people aren't people that I've spent that much time offline with. I'm friendly with them, but we're not friends yet. The people I've sat with on a podcast and had an exhilarating conversation, but we don't have a deep offline relationship. So I set up this dinner around 75% of the people could come because they're in town
Starting point is 00:13:27 and some other people couldn't come. There were some of people that you recognized and some other people that are discovering their voice and finding their way and building their platform. And everyone came for a dinner and what was really, really beautiful about the dinner is we focused on three questions. And by the way, like I said,
Starting point is 00:13:44 none of us had really had many deep offline conversations before. So three questions. The first question was, what has been your biggest personal or professional win of 2023? The second question was, what has been your biggest challenge personally or professionally of 2023? And the third question, how can the people at this table help you? What support can they offer you? I honestly was mind blown. I was completely in awe of this wonderful group of people who I believe are leaving an incredible legacy. In that room, I felt connected to something bigger
Starting point is 00:14:29 because each one of those people has dedicated their life and work towards helping people physically, mentally, emotionally, and spiritually. And each person openly shared their flaws, their challenges, their mistakes, their roadblocks, things they were coming up against, and open themselves up in front of a group of people that externally all have of course incredible lives, but there was so much trust in the room. Sometimes
Starting point is 00:15:02 we go so insular with the belonging of our friends that we miss out on legacy relationships. Who in your life would you love to spend more time with because you think you share the same legacy, even if you don't have the same belonging? It may be someone from a different spiritual group, a different yoga class, a different fitness perspective, a different friend circle, but having just one dinner with them. And honestly, I was so happy I did it because I was going back and forth because I was worried. I was like, if I said this dinner up, is everyone going to think I have some agenda or there's something I want to promote? Because I wasn't. It wasn't about that. It was truly about deep
Starting point is 00:15:38 relationships. And I'm so glad I did it because I got so many responses saying, Jay, that was one of the best in this I've ever been to. And I'm feeling so I did it because I got so many responses saying, Jay, that was one of the best in as I've ever been to. And I'm feeling so connected to that community now. And it's a legacy community. I know that each one of those people is inspiring me by the way they live. And again, like I said, these aren't the people I'm seeing every week. They're not the people I'm speaking to every day. But now we actually have a WhatsApp group to stay connected throughout the year which I love.
Starting point is 00:16:05 So connected is something bigger. I am Yannla and on my podcast, the R-Spot, we're having inspirational, educational, and sometimes difficult and challenging conversations about relationships. They may not have the capacity to give you what you need and Insisting means that you are abusing yourself now. You human That means that you're crazy as hell just like the rest of us When a relationship breaks down I take copious Notes and I want to share them with you. Anybody with two eyes and a brain knows that too much Alfredo sauce is just no good for you. But if you're going to eat it, they're not going to stop you.
Starting point is 00:16:53 Yup. So he's going to continue to give you the Alfredo sauce and put it even on your grits if you don't stop him. Listen to the R-Spot on the iHeart Radio app Apple Podcast or wherever you listen to podcasts. Listen to comeback stories. I'm Darren Waller. You may know me best as a Titan for the New York Giants. You may also know me for my story of overcoming addiction and alcoholism. You may have heard a few of my tracks as an artist or a producer. And you may have seen the work that I've done through my foundation. And you may know my friend and co-host Donnie Starkens as well.
Starting point is 00:17:36 He's a mindfulness teacher, a yoga instructor, a life coach, a man fully invested in seeing people reach their fullest potential. And we've come to form this platform of comeback stories to really highlight not only our own adversity, but adversity in the lives of well-known guests with amazing stories. Catch us every week on comeback stories on the iHeartRadio app, Apple podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts. The third one, independence, a relationship with our self, autonomy and personal usefulness. Our relationship with ourselves is a really important relationship in 2024, a sense of autonomy, a sense of feeling like I have value, I know what my use is. And the biggest question I would ask you to ask yourself
Starting point is 00:18:33 or ask your friends is not what do I need to do in 2024, but who am I becoming in 2024? I find that we put so much effort into doing and think about what to do. Right, we're like, I want to do this thing and I want to do that thing and I want to do this thing. And all of a sudden, we're so lost in doing that we don't like who we're becoming. Or we start doing and we fail. And then we don't like who we're becoming. Who you want to become is the most important question you'll ever answer. I want to become someone who uses all my skills, all my gifts, all my abilities in the service of others. I want to live an abundant life. I want to become an abundant person who wants
Starting point is 00:19:19 to share whatever I receive with everyone I meet. that is the person I want to become. And for that, I want to be fully abundant, I want to be fully open, I want to be fully magnetic and attracting so that I can serve and share and give more. I want to be that person. That's who I'm becoming. And if I think about that through, I want to do a podcast, I want to do a book, I want to do this. a podcast. I want to do a book. I want to do this. Then we get so lost in the doing that we don't we often lose the drive or lose the impetus from where that first came. So I'm always reminding myself who I'm becoming because if I like who I'm becoming I'm going to keep going. But if I don't like who I'm becoming that's when I'm going to allow stress and anxiety depression to rule me. Because if I don't like who I'm becoming, that's what's
Starting point is 00:20:11 making me feel discouraged. So I want you to ask yourself, who do you want to become? Who are you becoming? And what is that independent autonomous path that you're building and trying to take because you know that that's going to lead to your higher self. What is that independent desire that you have of who you want to become? Often we're being and becoming everything that everyone wants us to become. I'm sure you've experienced that. You have to be disciplined for your kids. You have to be disciplined for your kids. You have to be organized for your partner.
Starting point is 00:20:46 You have to be all these things for everyone else. You have to be focused for your boss. Who do you want to become? And how do you want to take that into work? Take that into your life, because guess what? If you're happy with who you're becoming and then you're taking that energy into the workplace and promise you it will illuminate
Starting point is 00:21:11 your world in a way that nothing else will. If you know who you want to become and you demonstrate and share and radiate that energy everywhere you go, you'll actually never be asked to be anything else. That's what I've realized. We only get asked to become things that we don't want because we're not sharing the deepest parts of ourselves. If you don't share who you are, people will tell you who they want you to be. Right, let me, let me, let me say that again, I hope that here. If you don't share who you are, people will expect you to be who they want you to be. Who are you becoming? Who are you growing into? I think we all want to feel a sense of autonomy, right?
Starting point is 00:21:55 And we don't obviously get that work. We don't get that autonomy sometimes. We are being micromanaged or whatever it may be. But the autonomy isn't what we do. The autonomy is who we are and how we do it and why we do it. We get so wrapped up in I do therefore I am. We get so wrapped up in that our occupation is our life that our title defines us when you say to someone, who are you? Oh, I'm a accountant. I graduate from this place. I'm from this place. But who are you?
Starting point is 00:22:26 a accountant, I graduate from this place, I'm from this place, but who are you? And who are you becoming? Or who are you becoming? The fourth type of relationship we need in 2024 is the safety relationships. This may actually only be one or two people. The people that bring stability and security into our life. Now, these people may not be the people that we belong within a group. They may not be our legacy partners. They may not, of course, be the independence. They're the people that we feel the deepest and safest with. You only need one person in your life to do this with. And you want to invest in that one person in a deep way. There's some beautiful research that I've read about
Starting point is 00:23:07 on headheartbrain.com. And it talked about how the research and M.Zac started out looking at morality and thought that oxytocin might be an element in morality. He focused on trust as a more tangible element to study. Here his colleagues carried out research to understand how the human brain determines when to trust someone and when not to trust someone. How many of you have dealt with this before, right?
Starting point is 00:23:34 Participants took part in the trust game designed to study individual's propensity to be trusting and to be trustworthy. In his experiments, participants' oxytocin levels were monitored throughout the study. The researchers found that when participants felt they were trusted, their brains responded by producing oxytocin. When participants were shown increased levels of trust, their brain produced even more oxytocin. Most significant, however, was the finding
Starting point is 00:24:04 that the rise in oxytocin levels resulted in participants' behavior being more trustworthy. The researchers conclude that people who feel trusted become more trustworthy as a result of increased oxytocin levels in their brains. That calls this oxytocin the trust molecule. Now, he goes on to say there are differences in brain activity depending on whether people trust conditionally or unconditionally. If people trust each other based on certain conditions being met, like delivering a project on timekeeping
Starting point is 00:24:36 or keeping commitments, the brain's reward centers activates. Unconditional trust activates the septal area. Some very recent study he says has found a darker side to oxytocin and one that leaders in HR need to be cognizant of. The research from Northwestern University in the USA found that it can increase emotional pain. Oxytocin seems to be the reason stressful social situations like having a bullying boss or extreme stress in a team have an impact long after they occur and can trigger fear and anxiety long past the event.
Starting point is 00:25:11 This is because the hormone strengthens the social memory in a specific region of a brain. Now the reason I'm sharing that with you is this idea that we want to build trust, but trust is built over time. And trust is not only built over time, it's built over depth of experience. And the way I look at trust is do I know someone 360? Have I spent time with people in 360 degree varying situations? If I have not, then I don't really fully trust that person. So have I seen them happy? Have I seen them excited? Have I seen them stressed? Have I seen them angry?
Starting point is 00:25:53 I can actually give you a list of emotions that will help you understand whether you fully trust someone. Now that doesn't mean you go make them angry to see if you trust them and they're angry. But the point is you're always building trust like little building blocks rather than this black and white idea of I trust you or I don't trust you. So you want to almost say, have I seen this person happy? Have I seen this person excited? Have I seen this person nervous? And it's not that you're deciding whether you trust them or not. You're actually creating what is known as specific trust. The idea of I trust you in this set of circumstances. And that's a healthier way to live because we don't feel let down.
Starting point is 00:26:32 We don't feel undervalued. We don't feel misled or misguided by this person, but we actually feel elated by recognizing I know when to trust this person. I'm aware of when to trust this person. I really wanted to think about who the people in your life. And like I said, you only need one or two of these people. That's your midnight friend. The friend you know, you can call it midnight, connect with them, talk to each other, share your pains. The friend you can call it midnight and they will drive to you and turn up. The person you can call it midnight and share
Starting point is 00:27:02 that and you don't abuse it and you don't abuse it with each other either. And I just want you to really reflect on which relationships you want to invest in more. I think we think about relationships as always being there. And I think about relationships as plants in a garden. If you don't water a certain relationship, it will die or will wither whether it will not have any flowers, it won't have any fruits But if you're watering a part of your garden, it will grow, it will be lashed, you'll be abundant So for you, what is that? Where is that? Who is that? And finally, we need relationships that are based on surrender and service Who are we serving? Who are we taking care of? I remember in the monastery, we'd always talk about this idea of
Starting point is 00:27:45 20% seniors 20% juniors and 60% peers this idea that 20% of your time is serving senior people 20% of your time is taking care of junior people and 60% of your time is spent with your peers sharing this energy and so if you look at the five things that I've shared I've tried to make it that way. The belonging may include you to guides and teachers who have left you. The surrender may be that energy where you're giving out. And then the legacy, the independence and the safety is what you need. So you can notice how that 20, 60, 20 rule breaks down. And I want you to remember that 20, 60, 20, 20% of your time with people who are guiding you, 60% of your time with people who are peers with you, who you feel uplifted by and you uplift.
Starting point is 00:28:36 And then 20% of time with people you're serving, people you're giving to, you always want to be a teacher and a student at the same time. It creates humility and it creates proactivity. 2060 20 rule. I want you to remember this rule when you're building your relationships. I actually want you to list who you see every week, who you see every month, and I want you to figure out who sits in which category. And whichever category you have a weakness in or a deficiency in, It's not about sitting there I'm going, Oh, I don't have anyone in my life to guide me or I don't have anyone in my life to share go and find them go and build them go and create them.
Starting point is 00:29:11 And if you were really following along well, this five step model spells bliss belonging, legacy, independence, safety and surrender. In 2024, I want you to experience bliss. I want you to experience so much belonging. I want you to feel connected to a legacy. I want you to experience independence. I want you to have safety and security. And I want you to feel the benefits of surrender and service. Who are you hoping? Who are you reaching out to? Our culture has become so much about, no you reaching out to? Our cultures become so
Starting point is 00:29:45 much about no one reaches out to me, no one helps me. Who are we reaching out to? Who are we lending a helping hand to? I know you are. I know our community is made up of all of you want to make an impact on the world. And I want you to keep discovering that. Thank you so much for listening to on purpose. I hope this episode helps you deeply this year and transforms your relationships, knowing who to let go of and who to grow with, sending you so much love with all my love and gratitude. Thank you for listening to On Purpose. Leave a review if you can, follow us on social media, share the episodes, and I can't wait for you to listen to your next episode.
Starting point is 00:30:25 If you love this episode, you'll really enjoy my episode with Selena Gomez on befriending your inner critic and how to speak to yourself with more compassion. My fears are only going to continue to show me what I'm capable of. The more that I face my fears, the more that I feel I'm gaining strength, I'm gaining wisdom, and I just want to keep doing that. I am Yomla Van Sant, and I'll be your host for the R-Spot. Each week listeners will call me live to discuss their relationship issues.
Starting point is 00:31:00 Nothing will tear a relationship down faster than two people with no vision. Does y'all are just flopping around like fish out of water? Mommy, daddy, your ex, I'll be talking about those things and so much more. Check out the R-Spot on the iHeart video app, Apple Podcast, or wherever you listen to podcasts. Hi, I'm David Eagleman. I have a new podcast called Inner Cosmos on I Heart. I'm going to explore the relationship between our brains and our experiences by tackling unusual questions.
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