On Purpose with Jay Shetty - The 5 Step Process To Tap Into Peak Performance Anytime & The Tool That Creates A New You

Episode Date: August 21, 2020

This episode is based on the book "The Alter Ego Effect," by Todd Herman. Do you ever wish you were someone else? Someone richer, stronger, more beautiful or well-spoken - like a movie star? It’s te...mpting to want to be something you’re not, comparing yourself to the people you see in television and movies, but don’t wish away who you are! In exploring this book, Jay Shetty gives you a lighthearted view of how to tap into your inner alter ego. You'll learn five steps to becoming more like someone you admire just by modeling them. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:01:38 real or fictional who is most known for the qualities and attributes you want more or less of in your life. So it doesn't just have to be one quality attribute. It can be several, but you might want to start out with just one or two and then you can shape your alter ego as you get more accustomed to working with it. Hey everyone, welcome back to On Purpose. I am so excited to be with you today. It is truly exciting when I'm recording these episodes, preparing. I get so excited by some of the insights I get to read and study for these podcasts. And I put in a lot of time to really research
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Starting point is 00:03:21 And today we're talking about the surprising tool that can transform your life and the five steps to putting it into work for you. Now, answer these questions honestly. Like really think about it. Do you sometimes wish you as someone else? Maybe a famous actor or a rock star, a successful author or maybe an investor or maybe you wish you had a particular skill set that you were more charming or better at networking, that you were better at handling money or negotiating, that you were a better listener or a better public speaker or better at giving presentations. With the future so uncertain and things feeling so out of control in so many ways, lots of
Starting point is 00:04:04 us are looking for things we can control. future so uncertain and things feeling so out of control in so many ways, lots of us are looking for things we can control, what we can do to make an impact on our lives and perhaps the lives of others. The last few months have talked to you about increasing your focus, managing anxiety, culture, and curiosity and broadening your skill set. But what if you could just borrow these abilities from someone else? What if you were like rogue from the X-Men who could borrow the powers of others or mystique who could shape shift
Starting point is 00:04:29 and perfectly mimic other people or mutants? Okay, I get it. I'm super into mutants and super heroes. But here's a fun statistic. As of 2018, 45% of male consumer surveyed had seen one or more films from Marvel's Avengers series. I've got my hand up for sure. And 38% of women had watched one or more of the movies too. The most popular films, you want to guess, they were the Iron Man movies with roughly 48%
Starting point is 00:05:00 of men, 41% of women having seen at least one Iron Man movie. Now you might be thinking, Jay, where is this going, right? You know, why we talking about Iron Man? Well, there's so much going on around us that feels heavy. So this week I wanted to bring you something a bit lighter and it's something fun and playful, but the great thing is that it's also an extremely powerful tool that can create real meaningful change in your life. So let's say you struggle speaking in front of groups of people. Comedian Jerry Seinfeld famously joked that out of funeral, most people would rather be the person in the coffin than the one delivering the eulogy, because people are more
Starting point is 00:05:38 scared of public speaking than they are of dying. But what if you could be a great orator like Martin Luther King or Barack Obama? What if you could channel some of their skills to be a speaker who's brilliant and inspiring and motivating people? Today I'm going to talk to you about how you can do just that. Most people know that Winston Churchill was the British Prime Minister during World War II, leading during one of the most challenging times in modern history. What many don't know is that Churchill used the tool that I'm about to describe for you. If you look at pictures of Churchill, you'll often see him wearing a hat.
Starting point is 00:06:14 No big deal, right? Yeah, for Churchill, it was. Churchill would select his hat based on the person he needed to be for the event at hand, whether it was giving his speech to rally the British public during the bombing campaign against London and other British cities, or meeting with international leaders. In the movie The Darkest Hour,
Starting point is 00:06:34 there's a scene where Churchill, played by actor Gary Oldman, is preparing to travel to London to accept the role of Prime Minister from the British King. He stands there surveying his large collection of hats and asks, which self should I be? You see, for Churchill, a hat wasn't just a hat. It was what peak performance coach Todd Herman calls a totem, right? An object that evoked a particular personality. Now, I had the joy to sit down with Todd
Starting point is 00:07:07 about his book called the alter ego effect last year when it came out and I really enjoyed this conversation and so I dove into more around this theme and seeing how we could use it. Incidentally and he told me about this one, another famous figure who had a totem was Martin Luther King Jr. And another famous figure who had a totem was Martin Luther King Jr. Though his vision was fine, King walked the glasses because he thought they made him look more distinguished. Wearing the glasses he felt he was better able to channel the eloquence and presence that was required of him in his role as a leader of the civil rights movement. Both Churchill and King used props to invoke the same tool you can use
Starting point is 00:07:46 to show up as your best, smartest, savviest or funniest self and that tool is known as an alter ego. Now you're probably familiar with the idea of the alter ego primarily from comics. Superman is also Clark Kent, T'Challa is also Black Panther, Carol Danvers is also Captain Marvel and so on. Some of you might be familiar with the idea of an alter ego from the entertainment world. Singer Beyoncé released an album introducing fans to her alter ego, Sash of Fires. Beyoncé says she created Sash of Fires because after a childhood growing up, singing in church, choirs, she struggled transitioning to the sexy
Starting point is 00:08:26 present she needed to channel as a pop star that she wanted to. So she let Sasha Feast do it for her. And I remember growing up listening to M&M, Marshall Madders, right? Slim Shady. These were all personality types that help us tap into different parts of ourselves and even understand ourselves. I had Liza Koshy as a guest on the podcast. I was an amazing podcast. I literally just watched her new movie on Netflix with my wife the other day.
Starting point is 00:08:51 It's awesome. It's really good fun. And she was talking about how she created characters on a YouTube channel that represented different parts of her personality. And that was almost like a healing process for herself. And this is something that you can do as well. Today I'm going to walk you through five steps
Starting point is 00:09:08 for creating and channeling your alter ego. But some of you may be thinking, really, an alter ego, does that actually work? Does actually science to back it up? Stephanie Carson, a professor and director of research at the Institute of Child Development at the University of Child Development at the University of Minnesota took four-year-olds and split them into groups and told them they were going
Starting point is 00:09:30 to do a task. Then she and her team did something guaranteed to frustrate the kids. They put a toy in a locked box and gave the kids an assortment of keys. But what the kids didn't know was that none of the kids would work to unlock the box. The researchers wanted to observe what the kids would do under these circumstances, how creative they'd get in how they'd try to unlock the box and how long they'd persist in trying. What they were studying is called executive functioning, which is a set of brain skills
Starting point is 00:10:02 that includes flexible thinking, working memory, and impulse control. Carlson and her team knew that kids already spend a lot of time in pretend play, and they wondered what would happen if they instructed one group to bring that pretend play to bear during a serious task. So the researchers also gave one group of kids some instructions. They told them to pick a character that they should pretend to be while they undertook the task. Either Batman or Dora the Explorer.
Starting point is 00:10:32 They even had the option of wearing a cape. The other group of kids received no special instructions. The results? As Carlson writes, kids who pretended that they were Batman or Dora were more flexible thinkers than those who didn't. They spent more time trying to open the box, they tried more keys, and overall they were calmer. As one child told researchers, Batman doesn't get frustrated.
Starting point is 00:10:57 But those were kids, right? Well, Carlson and her colleagues believed that the reason pretending at such a dramatic effect was that it created something called psychological distancing, which is when we have the space to step back and examine something from a different perspective. You've probably heard me talk before about the power of detachment in allowing us to access new and more creative solutions, along with patience. It is a form of psychological distancing and that skill doesn't have an age cap, right?
Starting point is 00:11:27 Like we did it as monks, like as monks, we, the mindset of a monk, is to psychologically distance to solve an issue. So all of that said, let's get started. Here's step one for creating your alter ego. Let's start with a little fill in the blank exercise. If you can get out a piece of paper or open a notes app,
Starting point is 00:11:45 if not, take a screenshot and come back to this exercise later because it's critical to creating an alter ego that's effective for the change you want in your life. Now, I want you to think of one quality you wish you had, right? Just one quality you wish you had and one way you want your life to be. So maybe a quality you wish you had was to be a better at finances or the stock market and you want your life to feel more secure
Starting point is 00:12:11 and you want to feel more confident in the decisions you make about money or maybe a quality you wish you had was to be a great listener. And you feel if you were a great listener, you would have stronger relationships in your life. So fill in the blanks. If I was more blank, my life would be more blank. Or you can go the other way and think of a quality of behavior you wish you didn't have or a behavior you didn't do, and then something you want your life to be less of.
Starting point is 00:12:39 Maybe you wish you didn't feel so afraid to have difficult conversations. So you feel like you wouldn't be held back in your career. So in terms of filling in the blanks, that sounds like if I was less blank, my life or my job or my family wouldn't be so blank. That's step one, and I prefer the positive affirmation as opposed to the negative, to try to do the first side of the activity. So for example, if you want to be more fun and engage with your kids and let's focus on work when you're home, you're not going to pick an alter ego like Thor or Shonda Rhymes. That's not what they were known for, right? Maybe if you wanted to be more confident, you'd pick Thor, or if you wanted to be an incredible
Starting point is 00:13:13 screenwriter, you'd pick Shonda Rhymes. But if you want to be more fun and an engaged parent, you'd pick someone like maybe Robin Williams' character Mrs. Doubtfire or Mary Poppins or Scott Lang who is Paul Rudd's character and Ant-Man. When you choose an alter ego, you want to choose someone real or fictional who is most known for the qualities and attributes you want more or less of in your life. So it doesn't just have to be one quality or attribute. It can be several, but you might want to start out with just one or two, and then you can shape your alter ego as you get more accustomed to working with it.
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Starting point is 00:17:04 Step two is to list out five people you admire. you get your podcasts. Step 2 is to list out five people you admire. Now, these definitely do not have to be famous people. In fact, some of the most powerful figures in our lives are often family members, coaches, teachers, so definitely do not limit yourself to celebrities or other famous people. Also, just like comic and other fictional characters, they don't have to be real. You might look up to a favorite hero, a heroine from a book or a movie, or again, it might be someone who's an everyday person who embodies equality or several qualities you'd love
Starting point is 00:17:34 to channel in your life. Scott Harrison had a life people dreamed of. He was 28 and driving a BMW with a Porsche Parmin in New York City. As a club promoter, Harrison was connected, the rich and powerful, looked to him to nowhere to party and be seen. But even though he had all the outward signs of success, Harrison was desperately unhappy, describing himself as emotionally, morally, and spiritually bankrupt. During a New Year's trip to Uruguay, when Harrison was hosting a party with hundreds of guests, he decided it was time for
Starting point is 00:18:06 a change. When he got back, he quit his job and spent the next year volunteering as a photo journalist for a team of doctors, caring for people and poverty in Liberia. Harrison was deeply affected by the fact that so many of the health problems the people faced were because of a lack of clear drinking water. He realized that he had a superpower that he wasn't using for the greatest good. When he got back to New York, he threw himself a 31st birthday party, invited more than 700 people and charged them each a $20 coverage charge. Then he had a team took the 15,000 he'd raised to a refugee camp in Uganda and used it to fix three local wells to supply clean water. He sent pictures of the work back to his party guests
Starting point is 00:18:53 to show them what their money had done. And that was the birth of charity water, a non-profit that has donors for more than 100 countries around the world and provides clean water for millions. Lots of people wish they were better at networking. So Scott's superpower is one many of us have dreamed of having, but you might be thinking, Jay, Scott Harrison was great already at networking. He didn't have to create an alter ego to do that. And you're right, he didn't have to create an alter ego to become a great networker, but to create charity water, he did have to create another vision of himself, another version of himself.
Starting point is 00:19:29 And that was Harrison, the humanitarian, right? It's almost like connecting to your inner monk. And that also brings me to an important point. And it's perhaps the most important takeaway from this exercise. By creating an alter ego, you're not faking it or being insincere. Maybe you've heard the advice, fake it to, you're not faking it or being insincere. Maybe you've heard the advice fake it to you make it. But when you channel the skills of an alter ego, you're not faking it. Squat Harrison wasn't pretending to be a humanitarian. He tapped into that desire that was already
Starting point is 00:19:55 within himself, but that he hadn't yet connected with. Beyoncé wasn't faking being an unbelievable pop star. Her alter ego of Sasha Fee has helped her connect with those skills that were already inside of her. Though it might seem that by channeling an alter ego you are pretending to be someone else. What you're actually doing is bringing out something inside of you. The phrase alter ego is from the Latin for other eye. This isn't about tricking anyone or yourself. It's about connecting with other versions of yourself. You can think of your alter ego as a magnet for those qualities, pulling them to the front when you need them. In fact, in Todd Herman's book, Alter Ego,
Starting point is 00:20:36 he describes a client who actually created an alter ego that was a giant magnet so he could channel and focus his own innate ability to attract new business. Now, there's something else I should explain. If you want to have a certain skill set like being great investing, you can't just channel Warren Buffett and all of a sudden you'll have his knowledge. You have to actually take the time and take some tips from him and how he got to be Warren Buffett because he wasn't born knowing about money either. He used his innate interest in money and market to spark his desire and read and learn all he could about them.
Starting point is 00:21:09 You have to build those skills if you don't have them. Also, you don't have to want to be a footballer to channel Ronaldo or a scientist to channel Stephen Hawking. Creating an alter ego is about taking some of those qualities that makes the person so good at what they do and applying it to your field of play as Todd Herman calls it. Definitely that salesman didn't actually want to become a literal magnet, right? Ronaldo is on my short list of people, the top people that I greatly admire and would love to interview.
Starting point is 00:21:38 And while I do love playing football, it's his work ethic that's such a big part of his success. Ronaldo is at the top of his game because he shows up with the intensity and consistency and that's something I strive to emulate. Let's say that you want to be the kind of mother that your mother was for you. You've got to break down what it was about her parenting that you wanted to channel. Was it how she balanced her career and parenting? So you felt she was there for you when it mattered the most. Was it that she was a great listener?
Starting point is 00:22:08 Was it how she made home cooked meals? And she cared for you. Be specific so that when you think of channeling your mother when you parent your own kids, you will know what actions to take. Maybe you're not much of a cook or your partner does the cooking and instead you demonstrate your care for your kids
Starting point is 00:22:24 in other ways, like doing their homework with them. So that's step three. Pick one or two people you listed in step two and break out three to five specific actions or ways of being that made them show up on your list. What do you admire or want to emulate about them? What inspires you about them? Step four is to actually create your alter ego. Now you can choose to channel a specific character
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Starting point is 00:26:42 on the iHeartRadio app, podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts. Once you've chosen your alter ego, the final step step five is to choose a totem to help you bring forward the energy of the alter ego, like Churchill with his hat or Martin Luther King with his glasses or the character of Mary Poppins with her umbrella. According to Todd Herman, a totem is not essential, but can help. Maybe it's the briefcase your uncle gave you a graduation and reminds you of his faith in you, that you make sure you bring to meetings
Starting point is 00:27:13 where you need to be confident. Maybe it's a red tie that evokes Iron Man or a piece of jewelry. Whatever it is, it should be something special that you clearly associate with your alter ego and doesn't also have a lot of other meaning attached to it. That way when you put it on or carry it, it clearly evokes that alter ego.
Starting point is 00:27:34 In 2010, Beyonce announced that Sasha Feast was no more. She no longer needed the alter ego. She had fully embodied the qualities of Sasha Feast that she wanted to keep and discarded the rest. The announcement marked a shift in Beyonceoncé's music and performances that embraced a more authentic self and in many ways different from earlier work. So those are the five steps to creating and invoking your alter ego, right? First, list either what qualities or skills you would like to display more or less of and how
Starting point is 00:28:05 that would impact your life. Second, make a short list of five people or animals or objects whose qualities you admire. Third, pick one or two people or animals or objects from your list and list out three to five that put them on your list. What fascinate or intrigue you about them? What do they represent to you? Step 4 is to create your alter ego. And to do that, you want to isolate one to three qualities that you want to be able to channel in particular situations.
Starting point is 00:28:32 Perhaps it's the key inside of a hawk we can spot and seize opportunities or the confidence of Drake, who incidentally has a few alter egos, including one he calls Champagne Puppy, which is even his Instagram handle. And lastly, once you have your alter ego, you can choose a totem or a symbol that will help you evoke your alter ego in those situations when you want those qualities to come forward.
Starting point is 00:28:54 So there you go. I hope this was powerful. And if you enjoyed it, you can check out Todd Herbens' book, The alter ego effect, too, which I interviewed him for when it came out and really underpins a lot of the research and a lot of ideas that I've shared here today. So I really hope you enjoyed this podcast. Thank you so much for listening to this episode of On Purpose. Make sure you share what you learn from this in your Instagram feed and Twitter and Facebook. And please, please, please, take a moment to leave a review.
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