On Purpose with Jay Shetty - The Tell Them Method - How To Stop Holding On To Emotional Baggage and Regret

Episode Date: October 25, 2024

Have you ever regretted not saying something sooner? Do you think holding in your emotions causes stress? Today, Jay takes us on a journey through the principles of the Tell Them Method, explaining th...at whether it's a simple decision like not wanting to attend an event or a deeper emotion like feeling unappreciated, the key is to directly communicate those feelings to the person involved. He highlights that most of us practice what he calls the "Tell Everyone But Them" method—where we vent to others but avoid speaking directly to the person who needs to hear it. This behavior, Jay argues, not only erodes trust and intimacy in relationships but also traps negative emotions within us, leading to stress and even physical discomfort. Jay uses relatable anecdotes and insights from research to underline the significance of expressing emotions in a healthy way. He discusses how bottled-up emotions can lead to passive-aggressive behavior, overreactions, and even health problems. By directly telling people how we feel—whether it’s disappointment, love, or frustration—Jay believes we open the door to deeper understanding and connection. In this episode, you'll learn: How to Use the Tell Them Method How to Stop Avoiding Hard Conversations How to Pick the Best Time to Talk How to Share Feelings Without Fighting How to Ask Instead of Accuse Practicing the "Tell Them Method" approach in everyday life not only improves our relationships but also enhances our emotional well-being, giving us the clarity and peace that comes from being truthful and intentional in our interactions. With Love and Gratitude, Jay Shetty What We Discuss: 00:00 Intro 02:33 What is the Tell Them Method? 06:11 Why it’s Hard to Tell Someone How You Feel 09:29 Underestimate the Value of How Something is Said 16:06 The Three Things That Happen When Emotion is Experienced 18:26 How Trapped Emotions Can Create Trauma 22:52 Figure Out the Best Time to Talk About It 25:57 Don’t Wait for the Last Minute to Tell ThemSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:03:16 Jay Shetty. Jay Shetty. The one, the only Jay Shetty. Hey everyone, welcome back to On Purpose, the place you come to listen, learn and grow. I am so grateful to have you here. My name is Jay Shetty. Thank you for joining me for the next 20 to 30 minutes as we talk about the Tell Them Method. Now, I promise you this method is going to transform your life. I believe it will change the way you work with
Starting point is 00:03:46 your colleagues. It will change the way you talk to your parents, your partners. It will change everything about your life because more often than not, we do the opposite. Instead of the tell them method, we practice the tell everyone but them method. Now let me give you a quick overview as to what the tell them method is. If you don't wanna go on a date with someone, tell them. If you wanna cancel plans tonight because you're exhausted, tell them. If something feels off to you
Starting point is 00:04:21 and you don't wanna see someone again, tell them. If you're anxious about a project you're taking on at work and you're not sure what to do with your boss, tell them. If you don't like to watch sports with your partner, tell them. If you usually wait till the last minute to tell people you're not coming, don't do that. Just tell them. More often than not, we don't tell them. We don't tell people. We hold on to emotional information. We hold on to our feelings. We hold on to energy that we're being compelled to share, to give, to pass on, but we hold back and we hold on to it. There's a famous Zen saying that says, letting go is hard, but holding on is harder. Just imagine yourself holding on to a piece of rope that's being dragged from your hand.
Starting point is 00:05:30 If you're holding on tightly, gripping tighter and tighter and tighter, it's going to leave a burn in your hand. And so often our emotions that we want to share with others, that we want to exchange, that we want to set free, are the ones that we're to exchange that we want to set free are the ones that we're holding on to so tightly. It's so important that we actually tell people how we feel. And this applies to both challenging and encouraging emotions.
Starting point is 00:05:58 The other day I was talking to someone and I said to them, you know, I'm just going to tell you how I feel. And I opened my heart to them. I told them how much I appreciated them, how much I admired them, how much they meant to me. And I meant every word. And they were so shocked and taken aback because they were just surprised
Starting point is 00:06:20 that someone would actually open up in that way and wear their heart on their sleeve. And I said to them, I like living that way because I'd rather say everything that matters to me and be seen as foolish, stupid, weak, than to hold it all back and miss out on an opportunity for a beautiful relationship. Because what am I really losing by sharing how I feel? I don't lose my dignity. I don't lose my self-worth because I can only give that to myself. I don't lose my self-esteem because I don't give the keys to that to someone else in my life.
Starting point is 00:07:00 I don't lose anything. When we think that opening our heart in a positive way to someone else makes us the loser, it means we believe that they have the power over us. When actually, I know for a fact that I opening up my heart to someone, telling them how I feel, telling them how much they mean to me,
Starting point is 00:07:23 I'm protecting my future self. I'm protecting my future self because, Hey, guess what? If they react positively, there's a beautiful relationship here. If they reject it, then I still know in the future that I did everything within my capacity. I did everything I could possibly think of. Now, sharing positive or vulnerable emotions is hard, but sharing a negative feeling towards someone is even harder. Telling someone you don't want to go out on a second date, telling your family that you don't want to come over for the holidays,
Starting point is 00:07:58 telling a friend that you no longer want to hang out with them, these can be much more challenging conversations. And they rarely are going to go how we want them to go. And therefore we avoid them. We avoid tough conversations because we don't want to deal with the consequences of what comes from them. But the reason why we should tell people how we feel is because if we don't tell them, we'll probably tell someone else. If you don't tell someone how you feel, you'll probably tell someone else how you feel about them. We gossip about that person to another person. And sometimes they find out even in the most indirect of ways. When we gossip or take energy from a relationship
Starting point is 00:08:49 into another conversation, what we're doing is diluting two relationships. You're diluting the relationship you have with the person you're scared to tell, because now you don't have a deep relationship, and you're diluting the relationship with the person you are telling, and you're diluting the relationship with the person you are telling because you're boiling down the quality and depth of your
Starting point is 00:09:14 relationship to be about gossip, to be about discrediting someone else, to be about bitterness instead of building a relationship on positive emotions. We're actually falsely bonding over negative emotions. So let's say I want to tell someone that I don't think that what they're expecting of me is in line with my boundaries. Now, instead of telling them my boundaries, my expectations, I start talking about them to someone else and saying,
Starting point is 00:09:42 can you believe that person? They're always just, you know, they're always just like disrespecting my boundaries. They're always disrespecting me. I don't just, don't know what goes through their head. Now, if I'm saying it, in order to figure out how to have a conversation with them, that's healthy. But if I'm saying it just to get it out there,
Starting point is 00:10:01 then I'm not actually getting anywhere with it. What happens is the next time I see that person, I now get more confirmation bias, confirmation bias is where I get more information to prove how I felt. I then go back to my other friend and talk about it all over again. And all of a sudden, I still have this person in my life who disrespects my boundaries. And now I have someone else in my life who disrespects my boundaries. And now I have someone else in my life who I could be building a healthy exchange with.
Starting point is 00:10:28 But we only talk about bitterness, pain and negativity. So instead of telling someone else, tell them it completely sets you free. You let go of the baggage of holding on to it. You're now no longer holding on
Starting point is 00:10:45 to the multiple conversations you'll have about this scenario, which means you've made space for other things. It also allows for you to get a reason. And this is the difference. I think so often when we wanna share something hard or harsh or negative with each other, we don't realize that it can be done in a beautiful and powerful way.
Starting point is 00:11:10 Right? It's so important to recognize that it's about how you say something, not what you say. We think it's all about what we say, when really it's about what we are meaning to say, how we say it, the intention with which we share it. And often I find a question is far better than an accusation. If you want to tell someone how you feel, it's better to tell them with a question as a way to check. So to say, hey, you know, whenever I say that I don't like it, when you talk about me like that in front of this other person, I wanted to ask you why you still continue to do it.
Starting point is 00:11:58 Where does it come from? Now this allows you to check in a way that doesn't put the other person on the defensive. Hopefully, it doesn't make them feel like they have to be critical. And now you're actually asking them a question where they get to explain themselves. I think we underestimate the value of how something said. We have forgotten how to communicate in a non-violent, non-confrontational way. It's interesting, right? We think that if we're right, no matter what the other person's reason is, we're going to confront them.
Starting point is 00:12:30 And so because we're trying to avoid confrontation, we avoid communication. But actually healthy communication can help us avoid confrontation for no reason. Often if I think someone's behaving with me in a certain way, I'll check in with them and say, hey, you know, I noticed this. I just wanted to know if you notice it,
Starting point is 00:12:50 or where does it come from? All of a sudden now we're on the same page. We're on the same level. I'm not calling that person out. I'm not making them look bad. I'm not, you know, assuming that they're acting a certain way. And I get the opportunity to get an explanation.
Starting point is 00:13:07 I'm not asking for a defense. I'm asking for their insight. And I think this is so important because so often we've watched so many courtroom dramas where all we know how to do is put someone in their place. And then that person kind of has to defend themselves and stand up for themselves. And now we're not getting anywhere because now we're doing the same thing back. It's so important to tell people through a question,
Starting point is 00:13:34 tell people in a non-confrontational, non-violent way. It's also brave to tell people how we feel because when we don't, we feel self-righteous, but we automatically assume that that person is unaware or wrong. I found that when I tell people how they feel, they get a chance to tell me how they feel. And often I realize we're far, far closer than we think. So I'll give you another example. The other day I was pitching an idea.
Starting point is 00:14:06 The idea got rejected. And I didn't really get any feedback. So I said to the team, I said, hey, I didn't get any feedback that I felt was valuable or insightful. We've got feedback, but the feedback felt pretty vanilla. It felt pretty, you know, standard feedback. And it was hard for me to say,
Starting point is 00:14:24 hey, I don't think we got any insightful or reflective feedback. But I thought hard for me to say, hey, I don't think we got any insightful or reflective feedback. But I thought it was healthy to say that, because I was acknowledging we did get feedback, but it wasn't to the degree that would help me. And I want to learn and I want to grow. All of a sudden, I got some amazing feedback.
Starting point is 00:14:40 And actually, when I listened to it and took accountability, I could totally understand why the idea got rejected. I could actually reflect and comprehend why we didn't get a yes. And when I communicated that and communicated the heart of the pitch, it actually led to a much more powerful, positive conversation. Again, it was a hard conversation for me to have because I didn't want to look desperate. I didn't want to look needy. I didn't want to look like I was forcing things over. And what I realized is I could explain all of that, right? Sometimes I think we think, well, I don't want someone to
Starting point is 00:15:15 think I'm X, Y, Z. And so I'm not going to say it at all. Rather than saying to them, hey, I'm not trying to be X, Y, Z, but this is how I'm feeling. Let's figure this out. Know is how it makes such a difference. We have to tell people why we think what we think, not just what we think. We have to explain to people why we're feeling the way we're feeling, not just what we're feeling. So often we just tell people our emotions.
Starting point is 00:15:46 We don't explain our emotions. And when we explain our emotions, we give them an opportunity to explain this. When we tell people how we feel, and more importantly, as I'm saying here, we tell people how we feel and why we feel that way. And we recognize that we can take some accountability for it. It gives us a sense of closure. We've realized that we've done everything within our power. We've done everything within our means.
Starting point is 00:16:16 We've taken control. We focused on everything we can control, and we don't have to be distracted by what we can't control. And that creates such a powerful sense of self-respect. We get an understanding that we have the ability to really stand up for ourselves. We have the ability to really recognize how we're feeling. And I think this hits very closely to why I partnered up with Match.
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Starting point is 00:20:05 I didn't know we were going to go there on this. People that I admire. When we say listen to your body, really tune in to what's going on. Authors of books that have changed my life. Now you're talking about sympathy, which is different than empathy, right? And basically have conversations that can help us get through this crazy thing we call life. I already believe in myself. I already see myself. And so when people give me an opportunity, I'm just like, oh great, you see me too. We'll laugh together, we'll cry together,
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Starting point is 00:21:29 result, you might experience muscle tension, pain or other ailments. Express your emotions to yourself, explain them to others. Don't express your emotions to others, explain them to others so that they have the opportunity to understand them. When we do that, we release it from being stored in the body. Nelson says the phrase trapped emotions usually means that you wanna say something,
Starting point is 00:21:58 but you're blocking it from yourself. And then that repressed negative emotional energy comes out as resentment, being passive aggressive. It can come out as an overreaction. It can come out as depression and stress, of course. And mind body therapist, Kelly Vincent, compares trapped emotions to carrying around a large backpack. It weighs us down. it impacts our mood, and it drains our energy.
Starting point is 00:22:26 So now that you're not saying how you feel to someone else, you're now carrying this backpack of emotions into every interaction you go to. And what we're really saying is, I don't wanna put in the effort to unpack this backpack. Right, think about it when you've gone on vacation and you don't wanna unpack a suitcase. So now you'll pack it again for the next trip
Starting point is 00:22:50 and you're now carrying everything from the first trip for the second trip as well. So what you've done is you've just made it harder and heavier for yourself. You've just made it more and more challenging for yourself when it doesn't need to be. That's why it's so important to tell them. Now, I was reading an amazing medically reviewed article
Starting point is 00:23:10 by Jennifer Litner on Healthline. And it was talking about how trapped emotions in extreme cases can actually create trauma. She talks about how according to a 2015 survey of almost 69,000 adults across six continents, over 70% of respondents reported exposure to a traumatic event, while 30.5% were exposed to four or more. Right? This could be a breakup or a divorce, she says. It could be a major illness. It could be losing your job. And
Starting point is 00:23:45 what ends up happening is that when we don't share or express that emotion on how we feel, that can end up being stored in the body. And if you've not read this brilliant book called The Body Keeps The Score, I highly recommend it. And when we're carrying around these emotions, and we don't tell people how we feel, we don't tell people how we feel about them, we don't tell people how they've made us feel, we end up blaming ourselves, we end up blaming them rather than engaging with them. We can end up taking that stress out on
Starting point is 00:24:22 loved ones. And so a lot of negative energy gets trapped in the body when it's not released in that way. And so I want to ask you, when's the last time you've been feeling a headache? Because there's something in your mind and your heart that you've been wanting to say. And here's what I'd recommend you do. Tell them. Because if you don't tell them, you'll spiral. If you don't tell them you'll regret it later. And the reason why we're not telling them is we don't think about this. I want to help you come up with a five-step formula for how
Starting point is 00:24:55 to understand how to tell them. The first thing is they're not in front of you. What would you say if there were no edits, right? If you didn't have to filter it, if you said it with all the anger, if you expressed it with all the pain, all the tension, what would it sound like? Write it out, audio it out, say it out loud.
Starting point is 00:25:18 How would you express your pain, stress, tension towards someone without thinking about how they digest it. Let it out without them there. I ideally would say write this down if you can, journal it, because the next step is focus on what you actually are trying to say as you now edit this. You're now extracting the explanation from the expression. It's not that you're taking the emotion out of it, but you're taking the accusatory, the blaming, the judgment out of it, so that you can truly explain how you feel over expressing what you think of them. So you're editing now in order to make it make sense to someone else.
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Starting point is 00:27:32 The third thing which I think is really important is figure out the best time to say it. People underestimate the time. I think it's so interesting. So many of us, we choose the worst times to have the best conversations. A lot of people in their relationships will choose the moment their partner walks through the door to have the most difficult conversations. Now that person maybe just had a stressful journey home back from work and you're thinking to yourself, so did I. Well, guess what? You're not in the right position either. Not only is the timing wrong for them, it's the wrong timing for you. The next thing is you don't know how heavy their day was.
Starting point is 00:28:10 So they're already carrying a load and now they don't have the ability to carry your load on top of it. You've now reduced the probability that they have the conscientiousness and the compassion in that moment to be present with you. Do they have any capacity? You're speaking to them at a time where their emotional capacity is so reduced and it's really funny because we think in this moment well they should get it. They should understand it. It's so important to me. They don't have any other time when actually you could have
Starting point is 00:28:44 made it a lot easier for yourself to bring it up at a time that they could digest it. The other important thing not just time is to figure out the best place to say something. I think sometimes again which is the worst place to have the best conversations we do it over dinner when someone's just trying to eat. We do it passive aggressively when someone's friends or family is around them. We do it when the person's trying to disconnect from everything while watching a TV show. Rather than setting a time and a place,
Starting point is 00:29:19 we take up any opportunity because we think it's so important. But anything that's truly important, if you think about in the workplace, you set an appointment, you set a meeting to have important conversations. We've got to do that even with the people we love, right? And the biggest one, which I think we underestimate, is that we're usually quite attached to the result.
Starting point is 00:29:48 And really what we need to do is be detached from the result. Now, how do we do that? We want them to change. We want them to know how we feel. We want them to feel bad about it. We want them to get the point. There may be all these expectations we have. Well, the truth is all of our expectations are not helping us. They're actually setting us up for failure.
Starting point is 00:30:07 Instead of sharing all of this in a way that we hope that they go, yeah, I get it, I get it, I'm going to change completely, which is our artificial hope. We could share it and actually just see where they're coming from. We could actually try and understand what their blocks are. We're actually trying to comprehend what their challenges are, because guess what? That's gonna give us a lot more information,
Starting point is 00:30:32 a lot more ability to grow, a lot more insight into what can be solved. Now, this is going back to the simplicity of tell them method. Let's look at that example. If you don't want to go on a date with someone and you go out just because you feel guilty, now they think there's a chance. They're being strung along. Now you're feeling worse on day four that you keep stringing them along. And now on day eight, you've got to tell them anyway, right? You're not going to let it go all
Starting point is 00:31:03 the way to them expecting you're gonna propose to them. And well, maybe you might. And then now you've got to do even the harder job. Because if you just told them in the first place, you wouldn't have all that later on pain. Some of you wait till the last minute to tell someone you're not coming to the party.
Starting point is 00:31:20 Guess what? That lets them down more than if you told them a month in advance and gave a good explanation. Tell them, tell them, tell them. Because guess what? You don't then have to spiral. You then don't have to think about that emotion, that exchange for the next three weeks. You can actually create space for the life that you want to build. Thank you so much for listening.
Starting point is 00:31:40 I hope this helps you. I hope you pass it on to a friend. And remember, I'm forever in your corner and always rooting for you and next time you're struggling to express how you feel just tell them I promise you it will make a huge difference
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