Part Of The Problem - Chris Faga
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What's up everybody hope everyone's doing good welcome to a brand new episode of part of the problem
I am Dave Smith and I am joined by my brother, Chris Vega.
How are you, sir?
What's going on, Dave?
Thanks for having me on the show, man.
Of course.
People are already tweeting,
are you gonna have Sam Harris on?
No, I am not Sam Harris.
I am way more fun to have a beer with.
I shut up sometimes.
Jesus Christ.
Well, we'll see.
Still waiting on that response from Sam Harris. We'll see. Well,
I'm sure he'll take me up on my offer any minute now. Yeah. What a weird one.
What a weird one. Sam Harris says it's also just kind of bizarre.
Like is so many things in my life are it's like just surreal that it's like,
you're like Sam Harris coming at me.
Like the guy that I watched when I was 20, you know what I mean?
Remember when he used to get everything wrong. I was watching. Yeah, I watched a lot of him
I watched Ben Affleck look like an idiot in front of him in Bill Maher
Big moments dude and you and but and of course there was such a good there was such a good counter argument to that
That oh god
I hated that it had to be Ben Affleck. Like he,
it had to be the worst like Hollywood liberal,
the worst Batman. Yes. The guy who could ruin a Batman movie.
That guy who, by the way, I'm not,
I'm really not a conspiracy theorist,
but I do not believe wrote Good Will Hunting.
Just saying.
How about them apples, Ben?
Yeah.
Well, it just doesn't, I don't believe that Matt Damon and Ben Affleck wrote this masterpiece
and then just made crap.
Like as kids, they just stumbled into this great movie and then just made shit for the
rest of their careers.
So I don't buy it.
But he's just like, of all the people to be countering sam harris you get like a famous hollywood actor going
You're racist
And you're like that's that's the counter that you have whereas like there would have been
I remember I did an episode on it at the time
But I just didn't have an audience at the time, but I had a podcast
um, but it was like, no, the counter is like, he went on this whole thing where he was like, well,
Muslims just want to kill everyone. And okay, sure.
There's like a billion and a half of them and only like tens of thousands are
actual jihadists.
But then there's all these people who are sympathetic to the jihadists.
And then there's all these people who want to live under Sharia law.
And you'd just be like, yeah, okay, now let's do us.
Yeah, there's, you know, there's 300 million Americans. There's only like really a few
hundred neo cons. They wake up every single morning thinking about killing innocent Muslims.
But then there's a bunch of people who will vote for the neo cons or who will support
them or who, you know, whatever. Even the ones who say they're not neo cons will staff
their administration full of them. Like, I don't know, it's just like, this is, it's
always, they always have to look at one side and not the other. And that's
basically the game.
Well, I mean, that's just kind of what everybody does. That's the, that's the
day that this day you go like this. And then I remember when my main issue with
Obama, when he was running for president in 2008 was that do you remember this like went away immediately?
He was kind of running on conscription but not for the military for like service. Yeah, and I was that out
Yeah, and people were talking about it. No, it was like a big part of his platform. No, I remember. Yeah
Yeah, no, I remember it was before he got elected but it was in his day where he was like what if we you know restored national
Participation by saying
two years after high school, you have to go do something for kind of military after eight
years of Neo con Bush and Cheney shit. I was like, you really want, even if you like this
guy, you really want to trust the next guy with whatever this indoctrination machine
is like, it's a, it's a crazy thing. Yeah, it was and and particularly I remember
thinking and you know because I guess I was naive or whatever
because hindsight 2020 but you know through the Bush years of
course is we're old enough to remember there was like a real
antiwar movement on the left and there was a lot of like
skepticism of like the Patriot Act and things like that and I
remember you know during the Obama like skepticism of like the Patriot Act and things like that. And I remember, you know, during the Obama eight years, it was like the anti war left
disappeared.
But I remember when Trump first started looking like he was going to win the primary being
like, Oh, well, maybe the best part of Donald Trump winning will be that the left might
have to revisit some of these things and go like, Oh, remember how Obama signed into law
the right to detain us citizens without charges? Well,
we were okay with that under Obama.
But now that Donald Trump has these powers, we should try to roll. But none of it,
of course, none of it happened. There's like a mix of like woke ism.
And then CNN told them, Oh, he's a Russian spy. And then any,
any idea of having a critical thought just like went out the window.
It's on both sides though. Cause I remember I met, I saw some, uh,
some right wingers. Uh, I know some right when, uh, by like far right people,
like who, like, uh, when Biden got elected, they were like,
I think we're all just going to end up in FEMA camps. I'm like, isn't it?
And I literally went, isn't it just like government contracting?
It always takes way longer than you think. And they're like, what are you talking about?
We're supposed to be a FEMA camps under Obama and under Bush. What are you talking about?
Yeah, it's always right. It's always like so ready and then of course, you know all the
People who like predicted FEMA camps for years
We kind of go back and look at their good predictions.
And like, they never really get scrutinized for that one, but you're like, yeah, I mean, you got that one pretty wrong.
I listen by the way, maybe we all end up in FEMA camps tomorrow.
I'm just saying like, at least as of now, that's a pretty serious prediction
to make that doesn't come true.
I think so.
I'd say so.
The frogs are gay, but we're not in FEMA camps. Alright, you got one Al.
No, they're trans. Okay. I'll give you 50%.
Either way, I sucked off a frog and he liked it. I don't know.
He was something. He was wearing lipstick.
He never told me what he identified as. She identified as. My apologies.
I mean a dead name frogs on this show. That's not what we're about.
Oh, by the way, I should mention, of course, Chris,
you have a brand new comedy special
that you just put out, tell people about that.
It's called Burn After Saying.
I actually filmed it in the heart of Libertarian country,
New Hampshire at the Shell,
which is Libertarian clubhouse down there.
Great audience.
And here's what's, it's super fun playing with audiences
from place to place.
Cause when I go on the road with you and Rob,
I had some jokes that I could do very easily
that slammed with your audiences.
And then I had to come back to Brooklyn and be like,
how could I rework this?
And then they did, you just have to change things
and add tags.
And now then it was because your audience knows me,
I'd go back on the road sometimes and they'd be like,
Chris, you're playing dumb.
So now we're now we're mad at you, but now I can get it.
So then I had to rework it again.
And then there was like a joke in there and people see certain things you can't
joke around in both sides of this.
One of the biggest pops I got in there is a joke where I claim to be where I'm
like, I am pro abortion and it's the biggest, one of the biggest pops in the
whole half hour and they were all on board and this is an entire pro life crowd
and they're all on board with it.
And it was, it was great.
Yeah, that's that's awesome. It's a very interesting thing when you do stand-up comedy. One of the things you you realize is that like there are these
There that you could have like essentially the same joke
And and it's like not working
It's okay, and then you just find a little way to tweak it
So a different word in there and then it's like murdering and you're just like, Oh, so that's all it
took to give you people permission. It's almost like, Oh, so now because I just
tweaked this, now you have permission to laugh at the exact same idea, the
exact same question. It can be an inflection. And it's just like, Oh,
that's weird. It's like, well, it's like I found a joke that made, you know, that
joke about my brother being mentally handicapped that I tell I don't tell as much as I used to but so I found
the tag that made that whole joke work sweating bullets
bombing my ass off at an audition for like stand up New
York. And I just was like, look, I told my brother joke he laughs
at everything. And that made everybody who is not bored on
board with this joke about my brother being madly handicapped laugh.
And I was like, Oh, you guys are okay with that.
That part that I like, okay, all right.
Yeah, it's very, it's very bizarre.
It's an interesting like window into social psychology or something like that where you're
like, Oh, okay, I get it.
So that is like, there's a dance where you have to be allowed to, to find this funny.
There's something very interesting about that.
Well, all the Bushwick rooms and which is funny because I always joke about it because
I'm from here and these gentrifiers look at me like I'm a Jersey transplant constantly.
And in when I do these hipstery woke rooms, I have to do three minutes of clarification
material that I understand that I look like a white guy bully every single
big time and it gets tiring but like I'm just like I just I want to work on this
next joke so here's this joke I wrote five years ago that only works in your
shitty rooms yeah I remember seeing like Shane had a lot of that where it was
almost like just who he is isn't who the Brooklyn kids want to laugh at.
And so he'd have to have something kind of addressing that and then kind of like,
Oh, okay. All right. He gets it. And he's funny. And then,
but it is particularly funny in your case because you know, as,
as somebody who's 41 who's from Brooklyn, yeah, it really like, no,
you are Brooklyn. Yeah. You're the, the, yeah.
Like these kids are the college kids and you're the townie
That's right. It's like like we don't want to hear that shit in our Brooklyn and you're like, this is what it was built
Off of this is it. Do you guys not know it is you know, it's weird to me
Because we're you know right around the same age and come from the same place. It's a
It's weird to me that when you just say the word
Brooklyn now, like if you're just like, I'm from Brooklyn,
what that conjures up in people's minds is like just light
years away from what we would have imagined you would think.
Like, I'd be like, look, there might be different things you
could think like you might be thinking like, like Biggie
Smalls, or you might be thinking like some Guido and a wife beater, but you're like, Hey,
dude, take that over there. You know, but it was all that. It was all that.
And now it's like, Oh, if I just say Brooklyn,
you're thinking a hipster in skinny jeans with like a goofy hat pointed off to
the side. It was like offended by a microaggression.
Like that's what Brooklyn conjures up now. What a weird world.
I was really hoping COVID would thin their herds,
but it turns out they were lying about all those preexisting conditions.
They didn't actually have immunode diseases or whatever.
Yeah, they just look, they just look sickly from eating ramen.
Turns out you were just a healthy strapping young man in a dress.
Yeah. You had no problems with you whatsoever. Uh, dude,
I remember darn COVID like at the height of it, that would people would be like,
they'd be like, ah,
old New York is back because like New York got dangerous again for a little
while. Like I know, look, you had a baby. It was a different situation, dude,
Dave, I was out. Like I would, once they had tests,
I had a few people die in my life,
not of COVID. And I looked at my chick and I was like, you know,
I'm going outside now, right? Like, you know, it's like, I'm getting,
cause she was like, we can like leave and go stay with my family.
I was like, first of all, I'm from New York and my brother's here.
I ain't going nowhere that you can leave. And like,
I just got real street real quick. And then like all of a sudden,
they're having boxing matches in Washington square park and shit. I was like this is fire. All right, that part is pretty cool
Yeah, but whatever when everyone would just say oh old New York is back. I'd be like, I don't know
I see a bunch of children scared of the cold
Doesn't this doesn't seem like old New York to me
I mean, I understand the homeless people are more agitated than ever before but like you see a guy empty a colostomy peg
In the middle of Union Square. Well, that is kind of old New York. I guess
Yeah, that is for better for worse. That's where we are. Well speaking of a empty and colostomy bags
There is somebody drain the swamp. Well almost
But this was I don't know why I just just so beautiful and kind of an amazing moment
in American history. But Donald Trump was at the White House today. He might still be
there. And he sat down with believe it or not, a man who claims to be president of the
United States of America. And here's their interaction. Let's play that Natalie
Thank you very much and
politics is tough and it's
Many cases not a very nice world, but it is a nice world today and I appreciate very much a transition that's so smooth. It'll be as smooth as it can get. And I very much appreciate
that you
you are. Thank you all.
All right, there it is Donald Trump and Joe Biden.
Listen, you say what you will about that clip, but you got to be impressed with Biden's stamina. He was awake for the whole thing.
Donnie, I got gin.
Is I don't even know what to say about this moment,
but one of the things that I find so beautiful about it is that it's just,
it's so revealing how fake the whole thing is.
You know, like it's just so incredibly fake.
I mean, here was this guy who up until he got cooed a couple months ago was
essentially making the argument that the democracy is over if this guy wins.
That this guy, I mean, he may himself have not called him Adolf Hitler, but certainly a lot of people around him did. And he said this was the end of democracy.
But now, because the election's over,
he's gonna work as hard as he can
to make it a smooth transition.
Well, why would you do that?
Why would you make it a smooth transition
if democracy's over?
Yeah, exactly.
Well, it's also, because it's never made,
I had an argument with a guy we grew up with like two days ago.
And I literally finally just had to say, dude, you can yell Hitler all you want.
I it's not making me believe he's Hitler.
Like there's so many other things that you can say.
And then like now we're arguing, cause I started arguing about all the checks and
balances that would go on the difference between Germany and like, it's like, okay,
do we have the biggest military in the world or are we rebuilding a military from scratch?
Because we're not allowed to have one because that's a huge difference
Like that's a huge difference like it's really hard to top-down take over something like that without one of those guys smiling like
Hey, how about one of us shoot this guy in the head? Yeah. Oh look that I know people by the way
I know people on right wingers too, who love
to make this comparison. Someone asked me the other day at an event that I was at, they
asked me, they're a big fan, and they asked me, they were like, what do you think of the
comparison to current day United States of America and the Weimar Republic? And I was
like, well, I mean, I'm not saying there are no comparisons,
but there's some pretty obvious differences that jump out at you.
Like America is despite whatever problems we have,
the world empire. Like we run this shit.
We are not the biggest losers of the biggest war that ever happened who are
internationally humiliated and stripped of our sovereignty,
and as you pointed out, your military.
Now, is it, like, it is true that they had, like, the, um,
uh, what's it called, um, I'm blanking on the freaking name,
but they had, like, the cultural Marxists,
and they had, like, some of these, like,
um, like, kind of neo-communists who were pushing like transgenderism and some of the woke stuff
But you also have to mix that with hyper inflation and being internationally humiliated and like none of those
Characteristics are anywhere remotely close to 2024 USA. So it's just
Okay, I mean I guess you could talk about some aspects of things here or there. The Frankfurt School, by the way, I don't know why I was blanking on them. But like, it's just like the thing that jumps out at you quickly is like that. It's like, no, this is nowhere near the same situation. And, you know, it's like when they say, you know, January 6th was an insurrection and you're just kind of like, okay, but like, take me through this.
Well, the nebulous definition of insurrection is an organized attack on a government institution,
right?
It's just something very simple like that.
It's essentially a riot that happens on government property is an insurrection.
Right, right.
But it's not a coup.
At the end of a coup, Would you attempt to murder? Right.
At the end of the attempt,
that person should have been murdered if you were successful.
There was no way.
And I know this has been litigated
over and over again.
But I literally have to have this
argument with people when they use
the word coup for that.
And I go, OK, let's say they killed
every single senator and Mike Pence.
Would Donald Trump be the president?
And they're like, no.
And I'm like, then it's not a coup attempt. That's what not what a coup
attempt. Right. Right. I mean, like, look, it's, it's an insurrection.
If you're playing a bullshit semantics game. So like if you, if you,
like I was, this is one of the things I was arguing with, uh,
your boy James Lindsay, uh, about. That is technically my boy.
I was the first one to ever interview him on a podcast.
I let the G out of the bottle.
You sure did. No, but he was doing this thing where basically the,
the arguments started because when I was on Tucker Carlson show last time or the
time before, one of the times I was on Tucker Carlson,
I just was saying how stupid it is to call Kamala Harris a communist and how it's just like, I don't know. I was like, the attack
doesn't land. It is a Ugandan giant though, Dave. That I was, I would never for a second
argue with anyone on that. And that attack lands. You call her that and all of a sudden
I'm in and then we just got to find the undertaker because you know, she's definitely afraid.
Terrible. But I was just like, look, firstaker because you know, she's deathly afraid
But I was just like look first off you sound like my grandpa when you call someone a communist It doesn't resonate with anyone of this time and second off like she's not she's not a
Communist in any meaningful way and then like James Lindsay is kind of like he's like no, you don't understand
You haven't read all my books and actually dang is that they're all a bunch of Maoists and blah blah blah all this
And it's like first of all books. He's still wrong. Yeah, I read all of his books
The first of all and then like his big ace in the hole
Is that like dang said something about how we're gonna infiltrate the West and like yeah, yeah
But that doesn't win you the argument you have to actually demonstrate how and and no it doesn't count that you have some campus
radicals in the 60s who were influenced by Marx
It's like that what that doesn't mean the whole and by the way if she is a communist
Like this is what I mean about the insurrection semantics game
It's like okay if she is a communist then they're all communists then but like if you're if you're using sure if you want to say
that DC
Like that the US federal government is fascist you can make that argument if you want to say that DC, like that the US federal government is fascist, you
can make that argument.
If you want to make the argument that they're communist, okay, you could make that argument.
Sure, you have to be really loose with those terms, but you have to be so loose with those
terms that they would describe Donald Trump now too.
They would describe Barack Obama and John McCain and Hillary Clinton and Donald Trump
and this whole system.
So again, it loses all its value as an attack.
Likewise, if you want to say January 6th was an insurrection, okay. But then the Black Lives Matter
riots had like four or five insurrections and also the the protest while Trump was in office had
an insurrection. And also I think the free Palestine people had in insurrection and also I think the, uh, the free Palestine people had an insurrection, uh, under Joe Biden.
So either we're calling all of this insurrection, which is stupid, or we're
calling just this one thing and insurrection, which is dishonest.
And so they just want to talk about the one thing and then say it
technically meets the definition.
It's just all of it's incredibly weak.
Do you want to hear a funny way to argue with people about that?
Sure.
You go like this.
There were 10,000 people in Washington DC on January 6th to protest the election.
Right? Less than 2000 entered the Capitol building.
That seems like that would be a mostly peaceful protest, doesn't it?
Yep. Yep. No, that's a, that's a great way to do it.
By definition of the word mostly, meaning more than 51%.
And even, and it's even more than that because of those 2000 people who
entered, like only a handful of them entered violently.
And like, I don't know exactly the percentages,
but we have on videotape cops pulling barricades aside.
We have cops guiding people around through the building.
And so all of those people, at least you can't even really claim that they,
I'm sorry, but it is the only reasonable that for any,
for any citizen, if a cop guides you somewhere,
it is reasonable for you to assume I'm legally allowed to be
here.
Like, I don't know, if I'm in any situation and the cop goes, hey, this road's closed,
but you can go down this street.
And then I go down that street and then someone goes, you're under arrest for going down that
street.
That's just not right.
I'm like, no, but the guy with the badge and a gun said this was the legal object. So you take all of those people out and now you've got, yeah,
a handful of people who broke some windows.
This is just, and again, you know, to your broader point,
which is really the most important point there is that, you know,
as I always said to everyone, like, like the same thing you were saying,
it's like, okay, so step one is Donald Trump saying,
go peacefully protest in this area.
Step 85 is Donald Trump is now installed again
for a second term even though he lost the election.
Help me flush this out a little bit.
Yeah, where do we get that?
Help me flush this out.
Like let's say they get their hands on Mike Pence.
They stop the certification of the ballots.
Okay, now what's next?
Because it's so quick before you just go like,
you don't even, listen,
you don't even make it to the National Guard.
You never even get to the National Guard.
There's no conceivable pathway there.
DC Metro police swarm the place and take these guys out.
But let's just say you fight off DC,
you fight off the Capitol police.
Then you gotta deal with DC police. Then you got to deal with DC police.
Then you got to deal with the National Guard.
You're going to take them out.
Like the final step here is the military is deployed.
You know what I'm saying?
Like, take me through the scenario where Donald Trump is installed as president.
We would know if there were sleeper cells around the country to continue this.
That's how a coup works.
Right. Right.
It's all so ridiculous. All right, guys, let's take a coup works, right? Right? It's just it's all so ridiculous
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to motivate people.
It was a debate.
Yeah, yeah, it's that, it's that.
It's like, oh, okay.
And they've all kind of like revealed this like,
and look, we all know that obviously during any election,
yeah, people are gonna bullshit.
They're not gonna be 100% truthful.
They're gonna try to damage their opponent.
But it does really say something about like how unhinged the leadership in
our country is. And I think you see this filter down to regular people that it's like, you
know, like the comment you made that in the debate thing that was about calling Joe Biden
a bigot. She called him a racist at their first debate and then is happy to take his
VP slot and then is happy to take his endorsement for president and it's the same thing here. It's like, oh, but you'll actually like you'll actually, you know, I understand you're trying to work people up, but there is and I'm never one of the people who's like tone policing, but there certainly is something where everybody from all the halls of power are saying, democracy's over, and then this guy wins,
and now you have regular people freaking out
because they think democracy's over.
It's truly dangerous.
For all those people you talk about,
like our old friends who you argue with,
or just any liberal friend of yours
who you may know who you've argued with,
it does, yes, they're being insane,
but they get to sit there and say, like, well, I just
listened to the president of the United States and the head of the Department of
Homeland Security and the CIA director all tell me the same thing.
And so like, it's like they're, they're given permission in a way to be mentally
ill that is not helpful.
Well, it's like I said, I said this to you the other day when we were at the
comedy club, though, it's like people were talking to me about why all these
people joined up with
Trump, your Tulsi, Elon, uh, uh,
even Rogan or in a RFK. And it's like, well,
let's look what the democratic machine has done to all of these people in the
last five years. Even more Tulsi got called by the most powerful Democrat in the
country, a Russian asset while she was still in the military and nothing
happened. And just to, to, the way, just to, and just to, to,
cause I want you to continue on this, but just to go down that Tulsi,
Hillary Clinton voted for the war in Iraq. Tulsi went there.
Yeah. She served, she, I mean, she's not.
She stitched people up in the war that you started.
The war that you voted for, which you now admit was a mistake.
Yeah.
She went there and she's not, I think technically she's not a combat veteran, but she was in
a medical unit in Iraq during the height of the fighting.
Like someone who really saw the cost of war up close and personal.
You can argue more so.
You can argue that somebody working in a medical unit sees the cost of war significantly more
than somebody.
You can make that argument.
I've never been in combat, but you can obviously make the argument.
Those guys get downtime.
All you're doing is stitching up the people getting blown apart.
Yes. Like really a brutal,
a brutal job where you're very firsthand seat for the actual consequences of
this war.
And so you're telling me the person who voted for this war based off lies and
then you have the person who went there
and said, you know, sir, yes, sir,
I will go make this sacrifice for my country.
And then person eight turns around
and calls that person a traitor?
Yeah.
Like who's the fucking traitor here?
National television, national television,
zero repercussions.
I believe Tulsi was still technically
in the National Guard, wasn't she?
Yes, yes.
I mean like- She was active duty, yes. Guard, wasn't she? Yes. Yes. I mean, she was active duty.
Yes.
Like, this is insane to do this.
And then it's like, then you got RFK.
He met the metrics for Secret Service Protection.
And then they used semantics to deny it to him.
His father got shot in the head running for president.
I wonder why he signed up with the other side.
Rogan, literally, we know all the lies on Rogan.
I don't have to tell your audience what that is. But like, look at these people over and over again and you're wondering
like why they have gone to this other thing. It's like because you're f**king them over.
You're lucky Bernie Sanders isn't hanging out with Donald Trump.
Like, no, that's right. That's right. And ultimately, because Bernie Sanders doesn't
actually have the stones to stand up to anything which has been a characteristic of his entire career. But yeah I mean it's look at that's
one of the reasons why I'm just really happy even despite not liking some of these appointments.
I'm so happy that Kamala Harris lost like she just needed to lose. And you think about
it you as the whole corporate media is going like, I guess we need our own Joe Rogan
now. Like they just figured out that he has the biggest show. It's like, yeah, he was
a Bernie supporter. And then you guys tried to ruin him. You tried to like go, you, you
tried to like humiliate him in nationally and he's just better at this than you. And
so he jujitsu you up and made you all look terrible.
But like, yeah, I don't know.
Yeah, you lost him.
Hey, maybe that wasn't a wise move.
Maybe you don't go, hey, you see the most influential man
in the United States of America?
We're gonna make an example out of him.
All right, well you failed and now look what you get.
It would be like if they called a Walter Cronkite yellow.
Yeah. So yeah, that's right. No, but I mean, I,
I know personally, I'm not saying like I have some inside information.
Anyone else does. And everybody watched it play out, but yeah, no question.
Like he took that personally and that, that had an effect on him,
that it was like, Oh yo, CNN is lying about me and blatantly lying.
There's still a lot. So you think, all right, the lies have stopped working.
But then it does. Like, this is the headline.
I was just talking about the ship.
World's 10 richest people got a record.
Sixty four billion dollars richer from Trump's reelection.
It's not from Trump's reelection.
The stock market hit an all time high as it did three months earlier
when this same headline would have read the stock market market hits all-time high, why would you vote
for Donald Trump?
We're not stupid.
Stop thinking the average American is stupid.
They didn't need you to parade out stupid Tim Walls.
You should have got Josh Shapiro and you might have won Pennsylvania.
The guy actually did stuff for working class people there by eliminating that college education requirement for 90% of state jobs. You put that guy up there and what were you
worried? You were worried he was a Jew? That was the thing you were worried about. The
party that's not racist is worried this guy's, what is it?
Well I think honestly, I think it's they were worried that he would outshine her. I mean,
I really do think that's what it is.
I mean he's a better speaker. He's a significantly better speaker.
I think that's a big part of it and that he
has ambitions and stuff like that.
Um, but yeah, dude, I mean, there's it's, you know, we were talking about this in
the, in the green room out in Philly the other day, but it's like, it's almost
like they were just incapable of adjusting to the facts on the ground.
And the, and that's particularly devastating
when there's been basically a revolution in this industry.
And so, it's like somebody is like in 1780,
they're just like, I have a plan
to get us away from the British.
And you're like, oh, you didn't hear like there's been a revolution.
We're not a colony of the, of the Brits anymore. You know what I mean? Like,
it's, it's like they just can't like adjust.
And so you'd have this dynamic where, you know, as you, you watch,
you know, all the time, I mean, I see, especially since I just did Rogan,
this is always the case in the days after you do Rogan,
there'll be like these clips that are like going viral.
But you'll see just like a clip that I'm not even tagged in, you know,
but I just like found it like on Twitter because someone tags me on it of me with three million views on it,
you know, because it was just a clip of the Rogan experience and then this went viral in some other little world.
And so what happens is when you have something like, just for example, Tony Hinchcliffe doing what any American,
well it's literally anybody who watches that video,
it's not, this is-
Or just Ben to Washington Heights, I just-
Yeah, right, or something like that.
But you know immediately,
this is a country that grew up on Don Rickles.
You know what you're watching.
There's no confusion about what's going on here, right?
But then the Tony clips, and they're shared so many different times.
This version has 3 million, this version has 15 million, this version has 7 million, this
version only has 600,000, but then this one has another 3 million.
You know, it's like the clip is viewed so much.
The numbers are so high on this side. And the numbers for
the corporate media are so down here that when people in the
corporate media, they haven't even adjusted for the fact that
so many people who watch CNN's take on that also watch the
video. And they're like looking at the video just like, oh,
you're lying to me. You're saying speaker at Trump rally
said Puerto Ricans are garbage.
But what I see is a roast comic,
just machine guns spraying everybody.
And like the Puerto Ricans got one shot,
the Jews got one, the Muslims got one,
his mother got one, you know, like it's,
and you're just like, oh, they didn't adjust to the fact
that people don't like suspect they're lying.
They can watch that they're lying.
You're lying to me.
You're always lying.
This is not what happened.
He didn't say very fine people on both sides.
He didn't have a Nazi rally.
Tony Hinchcliffe is a comedian.
Like there's so many like that.
And again, they tried to tell us Joe Biden wasn't senile.
Like, dude, this is insane.
I think what the main thing, must have been this must have sunk Kamala so badly when
she goes when they asked her, I think it was on the view they asked her what would you
have done differently in the last four years?
And she was like, you know, nothing I can think of.
It's like, well, now we know you're like there's never I guarantee you, I have never met a
vice president of the United States.
But there is no way that every single vice president has been sitting down the hall going,
man, if I was that motherfucker, you know what I would be fucking do?
That we'd be running this whole fucking, that's what everybody does to their direct boss all the time.
Imagine just sitting there every day just going, nailed it again, Joe.
Yeah.
Perfect. Wouldn't have changed a thing. Well, it's also what was
Remarkable about it was and you know part of it is that
And this is ultimately why she didn't do Rogan and this is why she didn't do more interviews and things like that is that she was
She was so guarded
She was always so worried that you would like figure out what she was really about
and I think partially because what she was really about.
And I think partially cause she's not really about anything other than getting
power. But it was, look, this was the,
that question really damaged her and it was in the most friendly atmosphere that
was designed to get her over and was one of the most predictable questions.
I mean like if me and you were sitting down here
and we just worked for a campaign or something like that,
and you were like right away, I go,
hey, here's the only information I'm gonna give you
just to start with your campaign.
Your candidate is the sitting vice president
of a unpopular one term administration
and he's pulled out of the running
and now she's going to run for president.
Right away, like I mean, within the first five minutes of us brainstorming, we'd be
like, well, we better have an answer to this question.
It's as simple as this.
I would have had more planes to fly people out of Afghanistan.
That's it.
Would have moved on.
You would have had to mention the economy, which was very bad on them. You take an issue that everybody agrees, like me and you both agree we should have left Afghanistan,
but that that was bad. And it's still probably for the best that we left, right?
Like, I think we both agree with that.
Sure.
But if you just, so you appease even the two of us who don't like you, who agree that we should be gone,
but that was a mess. You just go, we should have had more people on the ground
ready to transport our allies in Afghanistan
out of Afghanistan so that they were not in fear
of their lives by the Taliban.
Very simple, one thing, everybody remembers those images.
And I just, by the way, didn't have that coming in here,
just thought of that.
Yeah, and it's better than what she said.
I mean, like, and I'm telling you, if me and you had 20 minutes to brainstorm about this
we had come up with like an excellent answer to that question. It's like it's
just you know so right there's you know she essentially just deserved to lose.
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back into the show. By the way, did you did you hear Nancy Pelosi on the New York Times
podcast? No, I would love to. So I've never listened to this podcast before. Like I hate
there's there's very few people I hate more viscerally than Nancy Pelosi Well, so she essentially so I had okay we had been speculating about this
I think it was something when Manafort was on Tucker Carlson
I thought he got it. He said something about this, but there had been
Look, there was a lot of speculation about what exactly happened with Joe Biden because the timeline was so
Shady and he didn't come out and address
the nation until days after that letter had been posted.
It was a very strange way for a president.
Syphilis in a nursing home.
That's I think what happened to his brain at least.
It's quite possible.
But it's like it's just very bizarre.
The whole thing was very bizarre that a sitting president announces he's not seeking reelection after
swearing that he was a couple weeks before the convention,
he's pulling out and that that wouldn't warrant a national
address to the American people that it would like that's very
bizarre already. I don't get whatever excuses you give me
about COVID or syphilis like Like that's very shady. Um, but so I remember,
um, Mark Halperin. So on Friday,
he ended up pulling out of the race on the Sunday.
And on the Friday beforehand, even though Biden was saying, you know,
the George Clooney piece had already been written and Chuck Schumer and Nancy
Pelosi had already met with Joe Biden and they were already freezing like hundreds of millions of dollars. The donors were pulling
out because they wanted a new candidate after the debate, the disastrous debate performance.
So Mark Alperin reports on Friday that his sources in the White House are telling him
that Joe Biden is going to pull out this weekend. The letter is already being drafted. And that there he's going to throw it to an open
primary. And they're going to have a contested, you know, convention. And so at the time when he
reports this, it's the Joe Biden is still saying he's in the race up till Sunday on the Sunday
morning shows, Joe Biden surrogates are going out and saying, why are we even still talking
about this? Joe Biden's in the race. He's made it clear.
He's the candidate. We beat him last time. We're going to beat him again this time.
A couple of hours later, this letter comes out.
Now, this right away gave a lot of credibility to Mark Halperin's reporting
because not only did he predict that he'd be out this weekend,
but he said the letter is
being drafted. He predicted the way in which he would pull out of it that it was going to be a
letter. And so it was all of that. Do you think Jill Biden held his hand while he pointed out the
letters? Oh, who the hell knows? I don't believe he wrote it. I'm not even sure he was aware of
any of this. I don't know if he's but so evident. So
what's interesting about this, right, is that in the letter, like the only part of Mark Halpern's
reporting that was wrong was that he did end up endorsing Kamala Harris. But interestingly enough,
not in that letter. It wasn't in that letter. And it was like 30 minutes later, he sent a tweet or someone sent a tweet from Joe Biden's
account that said, I fully endorse Kamala Harris.
And what they're saying now is that this was his middle finger to all of them that he's
like, oh, you're going to push me out fine.
But I I'm going to saddle you with the worst candidate who can't possibly beat Donald Trump
Now the other thing that is interesting that's come out since then is that evidently?
There they knew how bad this thing was gonna go
But she did she beat Trump in that debate. She won the debate. He just couldn't capital
He did a terrible job in the debate.
He had a very, very bad night.
And and, you know, it was close enough, but close is a win for her.
So, like, I'd agree with you that, like, yeah, that was her night.
She was the winner of that night.
But evidently, before Joe Biden dropped out, their internal polling, which is kind
of interesting to see how much better their internal polling is
than the polls that the rest of us have access to. But their
internal polling had Donald Trump winning 400 electoral
votes. Like, they knew that not only did they know so she
actually did better than what their internal polling was
saying. And I think that kind of makes sense.
You know, for all her flaws as a candidate, you look at Joe Biden and you're like, dude,
this is you just can't run this.
This isn't a functioning adult human being.
But it does for like it does show you something that even in the face of that he didn't want
to pull out.
And so so they're blaming him.
I mean, really they all deserve blame.
Like Nancy Pelosi is trying to throw him under the bus, but they, they all deserve
blame because it's like you all pretended.
Pelosi said, what was her exact words?
As I have to go back and pull it up till her exact words.
But she was basically saying that like, he should have done the right thing
earlier, he should have dropped out of the race and given her more time.
The problem is that you guys all should have allowed for a real primary to happen.
You all shouldn't have fucking gas lit the whole country about how he was wasn't senile
and he was sharp as a tack behind closed doors.
So it's like it's on all of you.
It was a primary happening.
Right.
You had you had three candidates running in a primary against Joe Biden.
You had Marianne Williamson, you had RFK. What's the guy's name? Dean? Uh,
I always go to see Dean Edwards, but that's the psychic, right?
Dean Edwards is a comedian.
There's a comedian, but he was also the psychic from back then.
Okay. No, I know who you're talking about.
Dean Phillips.
That's right. That's right.
So it's like you had a primary. It's like, well, you had it ready to go.
You kiboshed the primary to prop up Biden.
But who knows? I look, dude, I have the feeling that like this was kind of
they had they were going to maybe they were to pick somebody that wasn't Kamala.
Maybe his tweet did that.
But like, I think it was always the it was always the plan to not have a primary
and just appoint somebody new at the convention, because that's the old way. Like primaries have only exit,
national primaries only existed for less than a hundred years. Right. Right.
So, so it's like, I think we're going to always do that,
but I think Trump getting shot sped it up.
Yeah. Well that was that,
that was when Biden really had to get out. Um, because he had, um,
he had had, um had there's okay.
So here's Nancy Pelosi's exact quote said, had the president gotten out sooner,
there may have been other candidates in the race.
There's three.
The anticipation was that if the president were to step aside, that there
would be an open primary.
It was.
And as I say, Kamala may have, I think she would have done well in that,
and been stronger going forward. But we don't know that that didn't happen. So throwing both Biden and
Kamala Harris under the bus after this loss. Just really classy move by Nancy Pelosi.
I mean, rockin tits though.
You know what, can't sue you for slander on that one?
Yes, really is just something by the way in other news from the election fallout, and I really particularly loved this
We got we we got what we were all looking for
Coming out of this big election day, which was an update on the future of Don Lemon
We were all very concerned about what he would do.
How do we process all of this information? Where can we find Don Lemon's opinion?
Is the question I want answers to. And I finally got them from the horse's mouth. Here is Don Lemon.
Hi everyone. I have loved connecting with all of you on Twitter and then on X for all of these years, but it's time for me to leave the platform. I once believed that it was a place for honest debate
and discussion, transparency and free speech, but I now feel it does not serve that purpose.
In addition, starting this Friday, November 15th, X is implementing new terms of service,
which among other things states states that, quote,
all disputes be brought exclusively in the U.S. District Court for the Northern District
of Texas or state courts located in Tarrant County, Texas, end quote.
The full terms of service can be found on my written statement or on the Exis website.
Now, as the Washington Post recently reported on Exison's decision to change the terms, this quote ensures that such lawsuits will be heard in courthouses that are a hub for
conservatives which experts say could make it easier for Exxon to shield itself from litigation
and punish critics. I think that speaks for itself. You can find me on YouTube at The Don Lemon Show or on TikTok and Facebook at Don Lemon
and on Instagram and Blue Sky at Don Lemon Official.
I hope you will join me there.
And on Grindr as Dirty Lemonade Golden Showers.
We will not be joining you there, Don Lemon.
We will not. I just I think this is I think it's interesting
for several reasons. Number one, like, oh, yeah, they want to what a scandal that Twitter
would rather be an illegal jurisdiction where they can quote shield themselves from liability.
Like yes, in other words, that where the state can't crack down on them for
not censoring speech.
They're also based in Texas. It would make sense that they would want to litigate their
things in Texas where they live.
100%. It's also, but like you can see what's really going on here is that, yeah, like,
you know, for all the people who said that Twitter isn't real life, you know, that was always like the slogans like, which it is and it isn't.
It's the least real life of the platforms. Doesn't mean it's not real life. The internet is real life now.
Yeah, I mean like, well, you know what's really not real life is CNN.
CNN isn't real life. And so Don Lemon now comes out into the Wild West after he gets canned from CNN,
and he knows it's like he can't post anything without being ratioed and just everyone telling
him how much we hate him. And so he's going to retreat back to an area where the conversation
is controlled, or at least more controlled than it is here. But it is, I do think, at least as of right now,
I think the most interesting thing about this moment
and Trump's reelection is that
the state propaganda apparatus has been shattered.
And that the fact that Donald Trump could be launched
into the White House by Rogan and Theo Vaughn
and Patrick Bughn and Patrick
David and all these guys, there's this new landscape.
And, you know, while they're asking the question over at CNN and MSNBC of like,
well, how do we build our own Joe Rogan?
Because that's really what they want to do.
You kind of notice that it's like, look,
you get Trump to make cloning legal in this country.
That's my that's the first.
Yeah, I mean, that, you might need that. I mean, look, I love the examples of... So you have on one hand,
you have Tucker Carlson, and then you have Don Lemon. I believe they were fired on the same day.
I could be wrong about that. It was within the same week.
Yeah. I think it was the same day. Go double double check me on that but so you have so dumb and then you just watch Tucker go into this world and
Thrive become bigger than he ever was at Fox News
and then you watch Don Lemon go from CNN into this world and just die a thousand Don Lemon deaths and
Part of the thing here, which I find so interesting is that it's like, look,
however you feel about Tucker Carlson, I happen to love the guy,
but whatever opinions people have about him,
people have strong opinions one way or the other.
Close his mouth. I know that's your friend. I know that's your friend.
I will close his mouth.
I'll get the message to him.
But the point is that he has something to say.
Yes. Whether you agree or not, he's got something to say. I happen to think a lot of it is really
great. Don Lemon has nothing to say. That's essentially the problem. Yeah, but the drug is
being at CNN. Like, yes, you get what I mean? Like, it's like, oh, they were both filed April 2023.
But he had an audience with the richest man in the world
who just gave him a bunch of money to move to his platform.
And he was so addicted to just being in that seat of power
at CNN that he just was like, I'm just
going to shank this on purpose.
Like, you know what I mean?
Yeah.
It's just an addiction.
It's an addiction. Yes. No, you know what I mean? Yeah. Yeah. It's just an addiction. It's an addiction.
Yes. No, I think that's right. The thing though, is that in this new landscape, there is, and look,
this is only the first step. There's a lot more that needs to happen, but at the very least,
you have to have something. You've got to have some, something somewhat unique or original, a point of
view, you know, your interview with Elon Musk, it's like, oh,
you're against DEI. So you must be racist. Like, that's just not
going to cut it around here. You just got to have something
better than that. It's you realize, and it's it's a
function, I think of monopoly, essentially, that you realize
you just like the atrophy in essentially, that you realize you just like
the atrophy in the service that you provide is so incredible because you've never had
to work for it.
You haven't had to compete with anybody.
Your ratings are artificially boosted by airport television stations and you're just there
saying nothing.
Just bar airports.
Yeah, literally.
And so it's like they're not even on at the airports
anymore. No, that's too many people must have been complaining. Just put on the game, dude.
I want to watch something real. Competitive tag. I don't care. Whatever's on ESPN. Let's
go. 100%. Here's the thing. You would have had a liberal Joe Rogan if you didn't call
him a transphobe for disagreeing with you on the thing. He's the most an expert in.
Yeah. Well, think about that too, man.
The fact that first he started getting like literally Joe Rogan.
I mean, you can't even make this up for people who don't remember it.
Joe Rogan never w when it first started, at least he didn't come out against
trans people or against anything. He said, Hey,
there's a biological man, cage
fighting women, beating the shit out of women. And I'm telling
you, as somebody who's like fought my entire life, this is
wrong. Men shouldn't get to go beat up woman. And that's fine
that they like this guy identifies as a woman now. But
I'm telling you the bone structure of a man and the advantages
that you have by biologically being a man to fight a woman is not right.
And he also,
he also didn't say she shouldn't be able to fight women. Women. She,
he just had to disclose it. Yes.
He beat the shit out of this trans lady, right? Now,
he now what Rogan was saying after that was then everyone was like,
see, that's proof that like a woman could beat this man.
And Rogan had an excellent point.
We was like, no, no, no, that's proof that this this trans woman isn't even good.
She's not even like a good fighter.
There's what he she was only winning these fights because he's a biological man
fighting women. And again, look,
there the argument is so overwhelming on this,
that men shouldn't fight women. It's first of all,
it is completely common sense to everyone, but then you just go like,
we're all told as children. Well, look, why?
I would have loved to just put one and write in your suck hole.
Turns out you're not allowed to. Yeah. I got the memo a little late,
but you're not supposed to, it's frowned upon. Yes. Um, but it's like, look,
why is it that let's say,
why is it that men don't fight women in the UFC? Forget the trans question.
Just saying, why is there
a men's division and a woman's division? Okay. It's because we all recognize that there is
something unfair about men fighting women. And what is that that's unfair? Is that how
those men feel about themselves? Or is it biology? Like, obviously, it's biology, right?
It's not that we're not keeping John Jones out of the female division because of how he identifies
We're keeping him out of there because of what he is
Objectively for coke. Yeah. Well, that's
Yeah, I'm not gonna believe that fights happening on Saturday until they're they touch gloves. I
Refuse well, it better be happening. That's all I'll say. All right guys
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episode. Let's get back into it. Um, but, uh, yeah, that's, uh, but you know what I
mean? So, and so he says this and then these, what I can only describe like
these, I get people, I really really I don't hate and I don't
like I but there's like these mentally ill 20 somethings at Spotify who got all up in
arms over Rogan about that and then the entire regime sides with them they side with them
they don't go oh listen Joe Rogan here is making a very reasonable point about an area that he has legit expertise in. And he should be allowed to make this
very obviously correct point. You know, like, it's not this isn't even like something like,
you know, you have a swimmer who's born a man but identifies as a woman and is breaking
all of the girls swimming records. However, you might feel about that and I think there's a
Reasonable argument that those girls have that it's like hey you just like this is not right
But we're talking about cage fighting here
You're not talking about like, you know cage fighting is a sport where in general everyone's taking their health in their risk
In their they're taking their health in their you in their, they're taking their health in their, you know, hands and they, yeah, right. Right. Or other people's hands.
But like to have a man fight that,
like striking a woman with everything he's got is just wrong.
And so anyway, it's all just it. So yeah, there's just,
there's a lot of different lessons like this, but it's just like, yeah,
that's here. The prob,
the reason why you can't create your own Joe Rogan is because no one
could be Joe Rogan arguing for this shit.
Well, it's just,
if you can't have a descending opinion, you can't be an iconoclast.
Right. Right. And if you're not even trying, you know,
if you're not even trying to have a thoughtful opinion, you know, when, um,
the one big podcast, I guess that that Kamala Harris did was the
call her daddy podcast.
I watched none of it.
I watched a little bit of her on Shannon Sharp and it just I was like, I can't with this.
He's not a great interviewer.
Kat was great on there.
So I was like, maybe this will be good.
Yeah, but it just wasn't very good.
I saw clips of both.
But also then you realize like the numbers just didn't do good. Yeah, but it just wasn't very good. I saw clips of both. But also then you realize like the
numbers just didn't do good. You know, like I call her daddy last I checked had like 700,000 views or
something like that. I think it was when I checked it was like maybe a couple weeks ago. It was like
1.4 but cat was still like 80 million. Yeah, but still even think about that. Donald Trump is over
100 million with Rogan. I don't know what his numbers are. And that's when you couldn't find it on YouTube.
Yeah.
That's without like, I, when I went to find it on YouTube the next day,
or like maybe it was later that day,
I had to like type the entire thing and then go down. It was not the first result.
No, I mean he was, I know for a fact that the numbers between YouTube, Twitter,
and Spotify were well north of a hundred million.
And part of it is just because like.
Donald Trump was talking, he was having a real conversation.
Kamala Harris went to all of these stops and attempted to just do what she does.
The big clip that I think we played on this show and then like responded to was
her it's like the caller daddy chick is like now, you know, Roe v.
Wade got struck down.
Madam Vice President, can you think of any laws that control a man's body? And it's like I can't. And it's like that right.
I mean that's what we did on the show is just name all of the yeah all of them.
Every one of them like every law.
As a collective service that's the first one. Yeah well that's the pretty obvious one.
Drug laws, the income tax. I mean there's like a million different things but like the what you know
So like you drink unpasteurized milk, I mean, yeah really like Jimmy
There are so many freakin laws that control men and women's bodies. So first off, it's a stupid point the second off
It's just the most shallow
basic dumb point. The second off, it's just the most shallow, basic, dumb, talking point thing.
And like, whatever you say about the podcast world compared to like the corporate media
world, that's not what we're looking for over here. You need to do a little bit better than
the most shallow talking point and then pretending like you've said something.
Yeah. I agree.
Well, dude, listen, I do have to wrap up cause I got another, uh, show to run right too,
but tell people again where they can find your, uh,
your comedy special or anything else you're promoting.
So I mean just the comedy specials, the main thing,
you could definitely find it on YouTube.
I've heard from a couple of people that you have to type the whole thing in. Um,
but it's a Chris Vega burn after saying, uh, it's a half hour.
Like I said, I filmed it down in New Hampshire
with all those libertarian savages.
And then you can also find me at Chris from BKLYN
on Twitter and Instagram, and I'll be retweeting it all week.
Please go check that out.
We'll put the link to it in the description
for the episode so people can go right there.
Great, fantastic.
And get it.
All right, Chris, you're the man, dude.
Great talking with you as always. And thanks everybody for listening. Catch you next time. Peace