Part Of The Problem - Defending the Indefensible

Episode Date: April 14, 2026

Dave Smith brings you the latest in politics! On this episode of Part Of The Problem, Dave and Robbie "the fire" Bernstein discuss the U.S. now blocking the Strait of Hormuz, the politics of Iran protecting Lebanon, Steven Crowder's statements about backing Trump no matter what, and more.Support Our Sponsors:The Wellness Company - Visit www.twc.health/problem to get American Made Ivermectin. Order your 6-month supply today and use code PROBLEM for $30 Off + FREE shipping. USA Residents onlyCowboy Colostrum - Get 25% Off Cowboy Colostrum with code DAVE at https://www.cowboycolostrum.com/DAVEMy Patriot Supply - http://preparelikedave.comVanMan - https://vanman.shop/DAVEPart Of The Problem is available for early pre-release at https://partoftheproblem.com as well as an exclusive episode on Thursday!PORCH TOUR DATES HERE:https://robbernsteincomedy.com/eventsFind Run Your Mouth here:YouTube - http://youtube.com/@RunYourMouthiTunes - https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/run-your-mouth-podcast/id1211469807Spotify - https://open.spotify.com/show/4ka50RAKTxFTxbtyPP8AHmFollow the show on social media:X:http://x.com/ComicDaveSmithhttp://x.com/RobbieTheFireInstagram:http://instagram.com/theproblemdavesmithhttp://instagram.com/robbiethefire#libertarian See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

What's up? What's up, everybody. Welcome to a brand new episode of Part of the Problem. I am Dave Smith. He is Robbie the Fire, Bernstein. How you feeling today, Rob? Doing good, man. Fun shows out in Stanford and looking forward to the big Chicago weekend. Oh, that's right.

This weekend, Friday, Saturday, and Sunday, we will be out in Chicago. Always, always, one of my favorite weekends of the year is going to Chicago. Great comedy, great comedy town. So, yeah, come on out to that. Comicavsmith.com. for the ticket links. And yes, like you said, fun time in Stanford. Thank you to everybody who came out. We had a great time out there. And yeah, and here we go. And man, who is there a lot to talk about? Before we even get into the news, Rob, I got, I got a new fighting style. Okay.

That I wanted to tell you about. I invented my own fighting system. I think I topped Helio Gracie. This is like, can't be defeated. I could win any. Okay, so here's how it works, right? All right. So let's say like you were trying to fight me, right? You come at me with your hands up, you're ready to fight. So I step back and I go, you throw one punch. I will totally obliterate you. I just tell you that. You will be wiped off the phase of the map,

never to be seen from again. Okay. So that's the, okay, now you might be thinking, what if that doesn't work? And that guy just keeps coming toward me. Well, then I extend the deadline to when you're totally obliterate. Like I go, I'll give you another two weeks, but I'm going to totally obliterate you.

And then if that doesn't work and you keep coming toward me, I just punch myself in the face. Before you can do it, I just start punching myself in the face. And I go, you're not beating me up because I'm beating me up. So it's kind of foolproof, if you think it through. Yeah. Who's going to continue that fight after that? Ultimatums and beating yourself up. Yeah.

That's seen him fly club when he starts kicking the shit out of himself. It is what a dude, I mean, look, I will, I will grant, because I've been fairly accurate in a lot of predictions about this current state of this conflict. I did not think the news coming into Monday would be that the U.S. has closed the Strait of our most. That one, that one took me by surprise a little bit. So let's get into all of this. So, of course, over the weekend, there was a, there was a, what they were saying was a 21-hour negotiation meeting

between, you know, Iranian officials and Steve Whitkoff, Jared Kushner, and the vice president, and their team. 21 hours, by the way, that has a long time to negotiate anything. She has a long time to just have a conversation, 21 hours. Well, what's so absurd about it is that amidst the red lines, the United States of America, was whether or not Iran could even enrich uranium. So the idea that they went into a 21-hour talk of basically J.D. Vance being like, all right, so you admit that we won the war?

And they're like, well, no. And how do you do that for 21 straight hours? For 21 straight hours, the United States went in with the exact same red lines that were unagreable before this war even started, which included no enriched uranium. can't back the proxies anymore, which we declare being the largest state sponsors of terrorism. Actually, I don't know if the ballistic missile program was in there, but just the idea that you were going into this with no enriched uranium. So the United States of America was making zero concessions after, you know, this disaster of a war for six straight weeks. And you thought that Iran was just going to concede, you know, concede on these points.

It's ridiculous. It's unbelievable, dude. And just to be clear here, because I think what you just hit, on is like the most important point about all of it. It's like, wait a minute, these are the things they wouldn't concede before the war. So you thought you were in a position to come go, well, now you got to concede it. And they're like, no, no, no, now you got to concede some stuff. And so it is kind of strange that negotiations could even happen. And then, of course, you know, the big thing that the Iranians have been talking about since then is like that they don't trust the

Americans. And I think that really, yeah, it's like we attacked them twice in the middle of negotiating. So how you can negotiate from there is crazy. I think that's why they brought the whole team and did it in person was so that they wouldn't be blown up during the negotiations and outing who was doing it. And I also, I think you called it perfectly. I think Donald Trump just realized that he didn't want to have to blow up the entire country and that he was being, they called his bluff. And so he just needed a way out on that. So he wanted to pretend that he was agreeing to their 10 points and then go, oh no, that was the other 10 points. Let's get together. And now it's a full 48 hours later. and forgets that Donald Trump had that red line,

and he's going with a new crazy strategy, which is I'm going to close the streets myself. But think about this, right? Because we'll get into that now in a second, closing the straight. But think about this, his response to, oh, they're not willing to deal wasn't, well, I'm going to take out all the bridges and tunnels.

Or excuse me, all the bridges and power plants, which was the original threat. But then obviously he realized that was a totally empty threat. I'm not, but instead we're going to blockade this. And like, you know, again, it just, it really is just so buffoonishly incoherent. the whole thing. But the other point that I just wanted to make sure to add in there, because

this is really important, is that the zero enriched uranium thing was the, was always, that was the Israeli demand. It wasn't the American demand. This whole thing kicked off, including the 12-day war, all of this conflict, this whole, dude, it's really like, you can't even like, when you actually like understand the sequence of events here, this whole thing is all over that. The whole thing, dude, they were in the JCPOA. They were in an agreement about nuclear enrichment. They were willing to, when the U.S. was in the deal after Obama got the deal, they were down to like three and a half percent or whatever it is. It was somewhere between three and four percent, whatever you got to enrich for a energy program, something like that. Then Donald Trump tears the deal

up in 2018, but they're still in the JCPOA all up until the 12-day war. And even when Donald Trump said, hey, you guys are coming up to 60% enrichment here. Let's negotiate back down to where you were. They were willing to negotiate that. It was only, dude, Rob, before the 12-day war, and this is maybe, you know, double-checked me what the date was on this. It was, I think, maybe a couple months before the 12-day war, but it's on video. Whitkoff straight-up said, it was about the levels of enrichment. And it was like, oh, they were down at like three and a half percent before. Now they're to 60% we want them back down to three and a half percent like that was the american demand going in and then it was all that there was israel and the lobby that insisted no mr president you got to be

really really tough and demand no enrichment at all give up your entire legal civilian energy program and they were like no we have a right to that um and you know jadie van said something about even conceding the other day that well yeah technically they do have a right to that did you see that I did not know that. I did not see that particular line now. So J.D. Vance goes, I'm not really interested in what they have a right to do. He goes, you know, my wife has a right to go skydiving, but we have an agreement that she won't do that because I don't want people jumping out of planes. I don't want my wife jumping out of a plane, you know?

And it's like, yeah, dude, but the whole point of rights is that if she did that, you can't use violence against her for it. not that you guys can't have an agreement. And so in the same sense, like essentially he's conceding, yeah, Iran does have the right, like a nonproliferation treaty member has the right to a civilian nuclear energy program. But the question is, do we want them to do that or not? It's like, no, but you're violently attacking them for doing that.

That's kind of different. I think the other thing is I'm not friends with J.D. Vance. I don't know J.D. Vance. I don't particularly get along with J.D. Vance. If J.D. Vance told me that I wasn't allowed to go skydiving, and I said, hey, I really like skydiving. I'm going to go skydiving. And then he decided to murder my family and physically prevented me from going skydiving.

That's a different thing than you live with your wife and you've, you're going to have to make compromises and make requests from them. And they're going to make requests from you. And you both get along and have an arrangement with each other that it makes sense for someone to make an agreement to give up something that they'd like to do, even though it's their right. when Iran is its own country and has an incentive to be autonomous and have a civilian nuclear infrastructure, yes, then you're asking them to give up something for absolutely no reason. And there's no reason for them to give it up. Right. And also, again, if they have a right to do it, then you don't have a right to violently stop them from doing it.

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$30 off plus free shipping. Once again, that's twc.health slash problem, promo code problem for $30 off and free shipping. All right. Let's get back into the show. Anyway, so J.D. Vance comes out, announces we could not make the, we could not get a deal. says it's about that enriched geranium. They were willing to compromise on some other issues, but not on this one. And so, of course, as we teased here, and as everyone paying attention knows, Donald Trump then announced this kind of interesting military move where he says, hey, all right, well, the U.S. Navy is going to blockade the Strait of Hormuz.

They're claiming that they're going to stop and check every ship that's coming out of there. And essentially the game is here, right? Which is, it's interesting in a way because, so me and you have been talking about quite a bit over the last couple weeks. What is one of the really interesting dynamics that's emerging from this war, which is like, oh, wait, like, if a round really is just now in control of the Strait of Hermuz, this makes them a global power. It gives them a whole type of leverage on the international stage that they never had before. and Donald Trump essentially is admitting that that that's really what the issue is here is that shit we can't just walk away from this where they get the say over who can come through the strait of her moves or not now of course Donald Trump as he constantly does he is just contradicting himself

left and right I mean it's like he can't get through a sentence without the end of it contradicting the beginning of that sentence because he's he already told you that the straight doesn't matter to us it's the rest of the world's problem and the rest of the world's responsibility. And he already told us that it would naturally open up. But of course, I guess what he meant by naturally open up is the U.S. Navy blockading it. Anyway, now, I don't know. I have not, I don't think I've ever read about or seen like a blockade to counter a blockade before. I guess the game here is that Donald Trump will go, well, hey,

you know, we can't stop you, but we can cut off our nose to spite your face type of thing. Like we could, we certainly have the naval capabilities, I think, to say, hey, if there's a ship that has been given permission by Iran to go through the straight, we're not letting you through. So now no one can get through. So Iran, they ultimately control the decision to keep the thing all the way open. or all the way closed.

We're denying them their middle ground of the straits open to who we say but close to who we say. And so, of course, the Trump sycophants are out celebrating this as like a brilliant move that totally turned the tables. He's showing them.

You know, because somehow this is the art of the deal, Rob. This is, you know, what 3D negotiating is really all about. What you do is you threaten total destruction of the civilization. Then you completely capitulate to all. all of their demands. Then you say, nah, ah, we didn't capitulate to none of your demands. Then you do a completely different military action, which the targeted outcome for is exactly

the opposite of what we all wanted. We wanted the straight open. Now we've got it completely closed. They'll still go. Genius. And dude, it's amazing to me watching people. It's sad in a way. It's like this sad desperation of these people who are like trying to defend Donald Trump, much like with the war itself, the entire thing relies on literally, as some of them will say in their own words, trust the plan. The whole thing is like, well, Trump did it, dude, he wouldn't do it unless he had a genius plan. And the evidence of him having a genius plan is that he did it. So obviously, and not a single one of them goes, hey, talk me through how that works. Talk me through the logistics. Like, like, this, the same shit we were always.

saying about this war and saying for years about this war will talk me through how this works now i just found by the way i'm going to post this on social media later i just found an article that scott horton wrote in 2005 2005 21 years ago and you know what he predicted what happened if you went into around because they were talking about the war you know invading iran at the time and he goes they're going to hit all our bases in the region and close the strait of her moose that's what's got to work said in 2005. You know, it's like, it's funny, dude, because, you know, forever, Rob, you know, people with the thing I always get from people, you know, you're not an expert, you're just a

comedian. Who is this Scott Horton guy, you know, who you say is the best foreign policy guy in the country goes, yep, that's right. That's him. 21 years ago, what Donald Trump thought was totally nobody had ever thought that this might happen. Well, actually, yeah, someone did. Many people did.

But anyway, but just in terms of the logistics, sorry, Rob, let me just say this. And then you can go, in terms of logistics, it goes, the major issues here are, okay, first of all, you're putting your Navy off the coast of Iran. Okay, that is right well within range of their medium range intercontinental ballistic missiles. So that's issue number one. They got all types of drones and missiles left at this point. Clearly, they're still hitting targets. Now you just gave them a lot more targets. Okay, that's issue number one.

issue number two is that okay so let's say China or someone you know gets permission from the Iranians to go through the straight we are now illegally in waters that do not belong to the United States of America going to start harassing stopping potentially even turning around other ship Chinese ships okay now we got a huge you know, international issue here. But like, you know what I'm saying? Like there's a, when there's an Indian ship or a Chinese ship or whoever,

these are countries that have nuclear weapons that are sovereign nations that are, you know what I mean? That like, so now you're going to start flirting with an act of war against all of these other countries all to try to get this thing opened again? This is, this is madness. Go ahead. Sorry. On that last point, it's conceptually a little bit worse than that,

because somebody could show up to the American blockade and say, hey, I'm not filling up in Iran. I'm buying from this other country and go through. And then come back to get checked and turn out that they did clearly buy from Iran. And now what are you doing? You're blocking a Chinese ship into the Hormew Street. And in terms of flirting with the big problem, you've got, and the Mish Talk was talking about this a bunch.

He's a great blog. But there's a good chance that China might in response. shut off our supply of precious metals, which we need for all of our defense gear. And then on top of that, you have supposedly China's been sending in like the back launchers and sending military gear into Iran. So we are really flirting with an escalation here. I think the upside is potentially, I guess, maybe these other countries. Well, I think our Arab partners were very upset with the idea of Iran now owning the

Borm you straight. And Donald Trump is, I guess, trying to figure out a solution to that, which doesn't include Iran just keeping it. And so he's hoping that maybe China, India, or other countries can't get the oil and get pissed off and actually either turn on Iran or try and help in creating a diplomatic solution or that this cuts off some of the funding for Iran. Or maybe it draws out whatever the Iranian defense would have been if we were going in with our entire military. and so it makes a land invasion easier because we're actually able to take out more of their critical stockpiles, potential upside. I just see a disaster here of oil prices going up, less oil actually being available on the marketplace, and now we're escalating this thing where, you know, we're escalating it pretty directly with China. Yeah, and, you know, and causing a lot of real pain to other third-party countries who had nothing to do with any of this.

And now our expectation is that, oh, even though we're the ones causing pain to your economy, you better be on our side against the Iranians here. To your point with China, I think probably where they, who is it that you said was blogging? How about that? Mike Mish Shedlock. It's got Mish talk. It's great blog. I think I may have read that time or two.

Yeah, well, I think what he might be going off there, which is it's an astute point, is that there was when Donald Trump had threatened all types of tariffs against China, and at one point they did just play hardball and they go, okay, well, you do that, then no more, what's it called, as you just mentioned. The precious metals. Minerals, precious metals or whatever. And then he backed off immediately. You know, it's like the idea that, you know, you think messing with Iran is a tall order.

Like, dude, China's got all types of ways they could put crazy economic leverage on America. I mean, go look around your house right now and see how much of your stuff is made in China. And you might think that shouldn't be the case and that stuff should be made in America or whatever. But right now it's not. And to immediately transition away from that would be a nightmare. So anyway, it's, yeah, there's a lot of. And then, of course, they got a whole lot of H-bombs, those Chinese. You know what I mean?

Like, we can't really get in a conflict with them. So, yeah, this thing has just disaster written all over it. And again, it just seems like the only proper way to understand this war is that Donald Trump made the fucking dumbest mistake of his life by launching it. And he was convinced it was going to go a certain way when every thinking person who knows anything about this should have been able to tell him, sir, this is, man, the odds are so bad that it's going to go in that direction. and now he's desperately trying to find some type of gimmick to get himself out of it. Literally, gimmicks is what he's looking at here, whether it's the crazy tweets or whatever. And anyway, and in the process, just as we said, just destroying his presidency, it's so obvious for anyone to watch.

We can get into some more of this stuff. I mean, but anyway, let's actually, we'll do that next. first I just want to say because I got a you know like me and you were talking about this in the me you and Chris Vega were talking about this a bit in the green room up at New York Comedy Club on Saturday night but now I was talking about

how like I don't know like the you know I've done a lot of these debates on this topic and I've the last two on Pierce Morgan have been particularly big shows like they both did I think like got millions of views on him and got like a big reaction. It was me when I debated that Adam Sussner guy and then I just debated Ben Ferguson

and you know, the whole common section seems to think that Ben Ferguson actually may have done as bad as Adam did. Like it's just, but again, I was saying it to you guys like it really is so it's like, dude, the position I'm put in to fight these guys is on the level if you go like,

hey, you got a fist fight this guy but he's going to have both of his hands tied behind his back and you get two butcher knives or something like you're like oh i mean i'm going to carve this guy up if that's the case and that's literally what these fights feel like dude you couldn't just imagine this right like sometimes i can't even believe this is real life even though i'm the guy who's always been saying this is real life this is how it actually works dude so as the negotiations start literally as the Iranian team and the U.S. team touch down and meet each other and begin,

this is in the middle of those 21 hours while they're negotiating. Benjamin Netanyahu tweets, and I quote, Israel under my leadership, will continue to fight Iran's terror regime and its proxies, unlike Erdogan who accommodates them and massacres his own Kurdish citizens. Just think about this for a second. The president of the United States of America has announced he wants a ceasefire and he wants to come to a deal to end this war. He's announced that the Iranians have a very reasonable framework,

their 10-point plan that we're starting from, and now sends his team there. Now, the ceasefire has already fallen apart. The strait of Hermuz is not open. The big problem here to negotiate at this meeting is that the ceasefire has already fallen apart because Israel's attacking Lebanon. And the Iranians say, no, we won't open the strait as long as they're doing that. Okay. The Pakistanis say, yeah, that was part of the deal.

Donald Trump says, no, that wasn't part of the deal. We're here to talk about this now. in the middle of that, Benjamin Netanyahu unilaterally on his own goes, hey, the war in Iran continues, the war in Lebanon continues. Oh, and by the way, NATO member Turkey, you're next. We got our eye on you too. a NATO member, a country who, under Article 5 of the NATO agreement, we would be obligated to assist if Israel were to attack them.

Like, that in itself, the junior partner, the little brother, as Benjamin Netanyahu calls him, is just deciding, just vetoing the big brother. The client state is just vetoing their welfare payment. center and just announcing that the war will continue. I mean, look, dude, how on earth can you just have that be the reality? And anyone is going to argue anything other than what this obviously is. The attempt by a foreign government to lure our government into wars and then keep them bogged down in those wars in service of overthrowing the regime for their national aspirations.

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your emergency food supply today. Prepare like Dave.com. All right. Let's get back into the show. It's too crazy, Rob. Yeah, I was also watching a video of Netanau talking about how he was getting updates through the entire piece process. And you're just kind of sitting there going, why? Why is someone reporting into you about this. And we kind of need that J.D. Vans from the Oval office with the Don't Speak to Your Dad, that way, energy, and we're not getting it. And just think about how many movies

you've seen your life where you know, like a CIA type branch of government gets two people to go fight so that they're weakening their power. And it almost feels like Israel's doing that to us. Israel, you know what I mean? Like the whole Scott Horton thing of being

empires being dragged into wars and then overspending. It's like Israel, our supposed ally is doing that to us here. Yep. Yep. And it does seem like they are, it seems like the calculation is almost at this point. It's like, well, we've blown up this relationship for the future. You know, like these, these guys are not dummies.

And they go, we got the most pro-Israel administration we've ever had right now. Right now is the time. Max out the credit card. Get everything you can out of this empire. And then screw them. You know? I think that's kind of the attitude. Again, while I do find that to be despicable,

it says far more about us in our government that we would allow ourselves to be used in that manner. It's really just such an outrage. You know, I will say, and at the risk of getting myself in trouble or saying something that people will use against me, but fuck it, I don't care. I'll tell the truth. Because, you know, I really,

the vast majority I think of Israel critics historically have been leftists. And there's still a lot of leftists who are very critical of Israel. But that's not us. We're not leftists. And so we don't fall into what I believe

to be some of the kind of pitfalls of leftist thinking. And, you know, so we're not like, you know, Jason Hinkle or whoever guys who are like, we're with the Houthis or something like, no, we're not with the Houthis. We're Americans. We're Americans who believe in capitalism and laissez-faire, you know, government and all that stuff. And natural rights.

And I love many things about America. But, you know, and then of course everybody who criticizes someone like me always has to say, oh, you love the Ayatollah or you're a Putin support. or the Hamas lover, whatever, which is all just so ridiculous. And obviously, there are a whole lot of problems with all of those groups that I just mentioned. And I don't love any of them, actually. But, you know, there's something interesting hearing J.D. Vance and Netanyahu and some of these guys talk about how, how silly Iran is being for insisting that Lebanon is in the ceasefire as well. And, you know, I got to just say, as you watch that, you're like, no, what, you're criticizing them for doing the honorable thing?

Like, I don't know. You know, Darryl Cooper made a big deal out of this during the 12-day war. And I really liked what he had to say. And he was like, he was like, look, man, he goes, it's dishonorable to fight the way Donald Trump's fighting. Like to say, hey, we're going to go into negotiations. sneak attack someone and launch a war of aggression. Like that's, that's wrong, dude. Like, however you, you know, like, just like on a, on a personal level, whatever like sense of honor that you have, which is something that means a lot to men, actually. It means like a code

of honor is very important to men. Now, you could, let's just say, hypothetically speaking, like you were out at a bar and someone was talking shit to you. And you could be like, hey, buddy, you say another word to me, me and you're going to step outside. And like almost every man would find that to be fairly honorable. Like you're saying, hey, this is my line. You didn't like attack the guy. But you're going, dude, if you cross this line, me and you are going to go settle this. You could also be like, dude, I'm not getting in a fight with you.

Like, we're going to walk the other way, blah, blah, blah. That would also be honorable, but perhaps more mature than the first one. But if you just went like, if someone was talking shit to you, Rob, at a bar, and you just went, hey, dude, look at that. And then sucker punched them. Almost every guy around you would go, yo, dude, like, that's not cool. Like, even your own boys wouldn't be like, yeah, nice one, dude. It's like, to men, that's like, that's just frankly, there's no honor in that. And that's what Darrell was making the point. Like, there's no honor in that. And that is like, I think, deeply corrosive to people to live under a government that has no honor. And it's so funny that people are so

removed from any code that they'd go like, it's like you guys are mocking the Iranians for, you understand what happened there, Rob. I mean, you were following the news. Essentially, Hezbollah made a huge move and stuck their neck out on the line for Iran. They started firing rockets into Israel when the war against Iran kicked off. And the idea of that is that they're like, hey, we'll take some of your fire here to run to, you know what I mean? So they have less missiles to send it you. We'll make them shoot their anti-missile missiles at our missiles and then make them respond with missiles to us when this whole thing is a race of who's going to run out of missiles first, who's going to spend more money and all that. And for doing that, they got bombarded. People have

been slaughtered in Lebanon in the last few weeks and huge numbers. And so it is almost the equivalent of like, dude, it's like if you were getting jumped by four big dudes and they're all stomping you out on the ground and I just run in to jump in and catch your back. And I know it's not a fight I'm going to win, but like, hey, two dudes stomping me and two dudes stomping you is better than four dudes stomping you type thing. You know what I mean? And so, of course, in that scenario for a round to be like, oh, we'll grant you a ceasefire, but we're going to keep fucking up them.

they did the honorable thing and went, no, they came in for us, we come in for that. Listen, I'm not even talking about like the morality of war. The Iranian government is not a moral government. Hezboa is not a moral organization. But like within the context of like warrior honor, that was kind of the correct move. And like I'm sorry to say like I wish my government could act with honor in one single area. Sometime. And my local fire departments all right.

anyway. Well, if there's one thing you're not going to get from Trump, it's that. Yeah, yeah. No, for sure, for sure. In many ways, he is the least conservative human being who's ever held the office. He does not care what he said 30 seconds earlier. You said the cleanest example, though Hermuz is going to naturally reopen. Actually, I'm closing it myself. Which at least, at least he's making it very obvious that there's no reason to pay attention to him or even to try and predict what he's going to do. no one could possibly get it right. So there's no reason to do it. Yeah. Yeah. No, I mean, it is, yeah, it's wild, dude. It's wild to watch. It's, it's like I'm more, at this point, I'm more just angry with the people defending him. Because you're like, dude, how can you,

you know, how can you even possibly look any of us in the eyes and pretend do you mean this? Okay. So by the way, the other big thing that we got to talk about, because this really, to me, just was wild. I've never seen anything like it. Um, we thought, in some way that Donald Trump, because if you remember, what was it, a couple weeks ago, Donald Trump had the post about how great, wonderful Mark Levin is, right while Mark Levin is just getting skewered by everybody. And within that post, he had a, like, he took shots at the people attacking Mark Levin. But like, he didn't name them. But we already said, like, hey, look, there it is. There's the official moment. Like, not the moment it died, but if you needed in

official notarized death certificate. There it is. The coalition is over. But in case that was unclear enough, he came out the other day and by name trashed Tucker Carlson, Megan Kelly, Candace Owens, and Alex Jones. And I got to say, man, I've kind of just never seen an act of political suicide quite like that. And look, I, look, I, like, look, Donald Trump is 80 and he's rich and he doesn't have another election coming up. And frankly, I don't think he gives a shit about, you know, I think Donald Trump would be quite happy for the Democrats to sweep everything after he's gone. I think he'd prefer that than some other Republican star rise. You know, like, he'd rather be like, yep, I was the only one who could do it.

And all the other guys were always second rate compared to me. Like, I don't think he cares about the country or any of that at all. But, you know, if you think about, like, what this is the equivalent of, like, this would be, like, Joe Biden trashing, Rachel Maddow, Jimmy Kimmel, Stephen Colbert, you know, like just like your people's favorite people. you're you know between the four of that those might be the four biggest conservative right wing shows in the country and he just trashed all of them and they also kind of represent almost like the spectrum of because you know like Megan Kelly and Alex Jones are very different people you know it's like all the way from Fox News to Info Wars and everything in between and he just trashed all of them in the most like it was it was trump it was kind of funny i guess in some parts of it but it was so

petulant and it just looks so bad and then the reaction of all of them has essentially been to laugh at him and i i don't know rob i i just i've never seen anything like this before where a president is trashing all of the people who got him elected and it's all it's so naked it's like look here's the rules, okay? Donald Trump requires 100% loyalty and he offers absolutely none. That's the deal. And, you know, you just demonstrate that enough times. It's like, all right, dude, then who the hell wants to work with you? Like, this is still a bit of a free country. And like, all four of those people have the option of not supporting you if they don't want to. So why the hell should they? you know and okay so then like if that's not bad enough then he posts the thing of him as jesus

this morning rob like is he's so out of touch that he didn't i mean it seems almost like he is working to destroy his legacy his presidency and his coalition certainly the the people who got control of it certainly are by the way it's not just him as jesus it looks like he's reviving geoffrey epstein and there's also like creepy demons on like That's hotline. There was at least one demon in the back. I noticed that. Yes.

Very strange stuff, Rob. Yeah. Well, I think he's trying to let us know. He's a full lunatic and get on board. It's really the litmus test for whose true believers and loyalists are if you're going to stand by him. And by the way, the loyalists aren't even loyalists. Mark Levin on Friday was pissed off that he was going to abandon the Iranian people. But now he's back on board and preaching Donald Trump because Donald Trump's back.

in the fight. Oh yeah, there's the, there's the image. If you zoom in there, Natalie, on the, at the top, right there, what people are really focusing on that guy in the middle. Yeah, that one right there. I mean, what is that? That's what Donald Trump sees in his sleep and gets all of his logical good ideas from. Dude, I've seen, dude, it's so funny to me, man, I have literally seen at least a few Christian, self-identified Christian conservative commentators who have tried to downplay the Easter tweet and this tweet. And they go, oh, guys, you know, it's Trump, you know. Someone said, they go, oh, you're complaining about mean tweets?

Like, mean tweets. Dude, I'm sorry. There is a difference between Colin Rosie O'Donnell, fat, and threatening, you know, to wipe a civilization off of the map. There's a difference between like, oh, yes, I did see that. No, I should have mentioned that. Thank you for that point. He did delete the gene.

tweet. Not the Easter one, though. But you're like, wait, so you're telling me, wait, you're a Christian and it's okay somehow. Imagine, Rob, like, imagine this is, again, this is why I win these debates. I'm not even a particularly skilled debater. It's just that there, and by the way, debate is a real skill that some people are very good at. I'm okay at it, but I'm certainly not great at it. But like, your position requires so much hypocrisy, requires tying yourself in not so much much that it's like imagine rob it was just like a game like we're playing boulder dash or something like then you're just like okay you're going into a debate you got to look at your cards like what did i get and you're like okay i got i'm a christian who has to defend threatening to wipe out entire civilizations

and mocking our lord and savior like okay that's going to be a tough one to go with and there's people who are like all right i'll try i'll try to play that uh guys you know he doesn't really mean it or much have been a staffer or something. It's like, yo, this is just too crazy. All right, guys, let's take a moment and thank our sponsor for today's show, which is Van Man. If you think Dr. Squatch is some small, wholesome company. If you think Bert's Bees or Native, well, think again, they've all been bought out by mega corporations and private equity firms who hijack these beloved brands and fill them with the same corporate slop as everyone else. But one company is doing things differently, and that is the Van Man company. They started the tallow.

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Anyway, on the, as far as trashing all the podcasters, you know, there is, I I don't know what to say, man. It's kind of interesting in a way, I guess, because I know all four of the people involved. I've been on all of their shows. And, you know, I have a very good gauge of how big their shows are. I've done them and seen the response that you get after doing them. This is, look, man, I mean, this is just a nightmare for anyone to argue at this point.

You remember when I made the prediction? a few weeks ago that the people saying the coalition is actually fine, we'll pretty soon be blaming the other side for blowing it up. Yeah, this is a blown up coalition here, dude. It's like the idea that that trashing all of the people who got you elected for the crime of holding you to what your promise was when they helped get you elected is not a wise game. Dude, did you see Tucker's response?

It was like the greatest thing I've ever seen in my life. Was that the interview he did on the BBC? Yeah, it was great. Yeah, well, the transcript came out first, and then they dropped the full video of the interview. So, like, I saw it in writing first. The first thing they go, well, Donald Trump just said, you're low IQ and you're this and that or whatever.

And he goes, look, I've campaigned for Donald Trump. I like Donald Trump very much. I feel sad for Donald Trump as I do for all slaves. It's just such a great response. I mean, look, also, again, like, people aren't even good at, you know, I shouldn't say, look, Donald Trump obviously is good at talking shit. He's legendary at it. But part of the reason why he's really missing the mark here is because he's so desperate and

he's so wrong. And then it just doesn't work as well. You know, when you're talking shit about Hillary Clinton being corrupt or Joe Biden being corrupt, it's like, all right, well, you got a lot to work. there and you're correct in spirit so you get a different type of energy but when you're you know it's kind of like as just from being a stand-up comic for for years like me and you kind of know this it's like dude like it's like if you got if you you could have a really offensive joke but it's hilarious and that just totally changes the energy of saying something really offensive that's not hilarious

you know like if you if you go really really dark or really really offensive and don't have that good of a punchline attached to it, you're out in this dark territory. But if you got a really good as punchline attached to it, then fuck it, you can, it's just a different force. And now you're on the right side of comedy. And with shit talking, there's some element of that too where you're like, it's like what I said about when they were calling there, you know, it's like when Josh Hammer and Laura Lumer are calling Megan Kelly Grandma Groyper. And you're going, wait, that's, That's what you went with, grandma, what she looks old. That's the, Josh Hammer and Laura Lumer are commenting on Megan Kelly's physical appearance.

That's what you guys settled with. Like, just go for something else. Pick something else. There's other weakness. Like, I love Megan, but like there's other things to go out. She was too liberal when she was on NBC. Maybe you could work on something there, you know, but like that's what you're going to go at her. It's ridiculous.

And even with Donald Trump, it's like, dude, there's lots of things you could. say about Tucker and Megan and Candace and Alex. Low IQ isn't really a dig at any of them. There's lots of low IQ people in the political commentary world. Nah, they're not really four of them. Sorry. And, you know, whatever. I mean, Alex Jones is crazy in a lot of ways, but he's a high IQ guy, you know?

And come on, it's just not going to convince people that that's the issue. is that you're just so much smarter than all these guys. They're all losers. And, you know, it's even seeing, I don't know, did we play it on the show or not? But there was the Mark Levin comment where, you know, Trump had made the comment about how they're all fired from TV. And you're like, yeah, but they're all bigger than they ever were when they were on TV. For Alex Jones was never on TV. He was a radio guy, but he's bigger than he's ever been.

Candice is by far the biggest she's ever been. Megan and Tucker are by far the biggest they've ever been. And, you know, Mark Levin, it's like they all talk about, like, he was talking about this whole thing. He had a rant about how, like, the internet isn't real life. And you're like, what, but cable news is? What do you mean? Like, it's all, it's so, and literally because, you know, both Donald Trump and Mark Levin, you know, these are, you know, you're kind of reminded.

These are your grandpas talking about the internet. And you're almost like, do you even know, like, do you know how the world works? Do you know how, like, what do you mean? It's a show. It's a show. People watch it. What difference does it make if it's on a network or if it's on the internet? People watch a show on their TV or their computer or their phone.

That's also where people watch TV now on their TV, on their TV. on their computer, on their phone, on their tablet. Everything comes on everything. The only thing that matters is how many people are watching to see if it's what it represents. And so it's all this whole thing where you're like, no, I'm sorry guys. Objectively, Donald Trump just trashed in the harshest possible, like, you know, in that moment in a breakup, whether it's a breakup of a relationship or a friendship or whatever, where you're like, you say the most horrible thing that cannot be taken back.

Like there is no us getting back together after this is said. He just did that with all of the most popular fucking Trump supporting shows. That doesn't sound good for a coalition now, does it? Yeah. And the biggest break is that if you're not on television, you got the opportunity to actually tell the truth. Now, plenty of people in the podcast format have still chosen not to tell the truth and to basically audition for television and use their podcast as a

opportunity for, you know, state propaganda, which, you know, I guess there's plenty of money to be made doing that. But when you're knocking people for not being on television and they're bigger, what you're really just letting everyone know is, yeah, the uncensored people can actually tell the truth and there's a market for truth. And I mean, Donald Trump's in a bit of a pickle here because it's all of the, it's all the not TV people who are telling the truth who backed him because he was supposed to be the person to drain the swamp and turn against the machine and all that stuff. And now that he's in and he's preaching a war, he's back with all the never Trumpers. And now that's, that's his coalition, the people that no one in the country like or support

would never have voted for, we're moving away from. And now Donald Trump's stuck with that losing coalition of people. But I, you know, they won the deep state game and they got their war. Yep. No, that's, that's exactly right. Here, let's play this, uh, the Stephen Crowder clip that you sent over. He's, he's a last holdout. He's, he's trying his best here. to somehow, you know, defend this stuff. And, you know, I don't know, I don't want to, like, ascribe motivations to Stephen because I don't really know what exactly is motivating him to take this ridiculous line. But there is something, man, where people just, like, are really convinced or you got to just

support Trump, no matter what, we got to support Trump. And that that's the winning business move or something like that. Seems pretty obviously incorrect to me. but let's play this and give our thoughts. They have not just said, hey, Donald Trump is wrong about this. They have said we need to remove him. And let me be really clear here. I think that President Trump has made some missteps.

I think he's imperfect. I genuinely believe that he is, if not the most important sort of stronghold that we have, one of the most important strongholds, holding back a Marxist-Communist Revolution that almost happened. I genuinely believe that. I genuinely believe that if the left had relatively unfettered power, you would see Canada, Europe. And that's effectively a dissent into communism

until they run out of people's money and then they decide they're going to allow some privatized hospitals and the like. Jailing truckers, jailing political dissidents, jailing people for private texts, no rights to carry a firearm outright ban and mandatory buyback. Eventually they're going to be going house to house to take them away. Compelled speech.

I believe that we are facing the world is a Marxist revolution. And that's more important to stop. And I will tell you that I don't think that a stance on Iran, even if Donald Trump did nothing on Iran, that wouldn't be a disqualifier. and if he did too much on Iran, it wouldn't be a disqualifier. It wouldn't force me to simply stay home or close my eyes and deny that there is a Marxist revolution. Wolves are at the gates. So when you understand that-

There you go. Okay. That's the best Stephen Crater can come up with. But the Democrats are really bad. So we got to go with Trump. Even if he did nothing on a round or too much on a round. Yeah, is there any, how much is too much that he could do? Anything? You know, I said this to you, Rob, in the green room.

I think you kind of tended to like it, but it's the way I would say it to like some of the people who are kind of taking this, this lane. It's like, okay, okay, Stephen Crater, let's say I grant you everything you're saying. It's all communism. Europe and Canada are all communists. And, you know, certainly no one's been more of a critic of the fucking insane progressive policies over the last 20 years than me. you know, but so let's say I grant you all of that. Okay, so hypothetically, let's say Donald Trump just ordered 10,000 abortions, ordered, involuntary, just round it up pregnant up pregnant women and killing their babies, ordered like 10,000 of those in the country. Does your logic still hold true? Yeah, but you know those Dems still got to support him. I'm not going to turn. I mean,

I'll admit he's imperfect. By the way, thank you so much for that admission, Stephen Crowder. I love whenever people try to make themselves sound like the reasonable one in between these two positions, but they have to use such bullshit. No, listen, I never said Donald Trump is Jesus Christ. I'm saying like, yeah, no, he's short of that. I'll grant. He's somewhere short of infallible and perfect. Okay, he ordered 10,000 abortions.

Still got to support him. Hey, man. Communism, right? No. The answer, obviously, to Stephen Criter, is no. Why? Because you're pro-life. You view that as like a moral deal breaker.

Okay, well, some of us are actually pro-life and we're consistent about it. And so, yes, that's what we view this as. When he's sitting there, by the way, first off, of all those people, even I'd include Candice, I think, in the list. But certainly Tucker, certainly Megan and definitely Alex Jones. I'm pretty sure about Candice too. None of them have been going as hard against Trump as I have. none of them have really been taking the gloves off like that.

But he starts by going, they didn't just criticize him. They really went. They said he should be removed. I don't know who said he should be removed. But yeah, I mean, I'm, again, I'm not saying I follow every single show. But like, no, in other words, Stephen Crowder is going, hey, you can criticize him, sure, but don't like criticize him too severely. But like, but he just launched a war of a grander.

a war of choice. That's an unmitigated disaster that he can't get out of that's gotten Americans killed and cost us over $100 billion or something like that. If you can't criticize that fiercely, what can you criticize? This is why I say ordered 10,000 abortions. Why is it so much different? Blowing up little girls' schools, getting people killed, left and right, civilians, innocent people, children.

And so what is all of this? It's like you just fall back to this like, oh, but the Democrats winning again as a nightmare. Okay, well, then don't do this. Then don't do this and keep your coalition together. I'm sorry, dude. And I'm sure that I just, I use the abortion example because I bet all you guys, you see it pretty clearly there, don't you? As bad as the Democrats are, if the Republican ordered 10,000 involuntary abortions, and yes, I understand that all abortions are involuntary. But I mean, in this case, the mother didn't want it either.

just to make it worse, why not? You'd go, yeah, as bad as that other thing is, we have to criticize this in the strongest possible language because we oppose this. That's how some of us feel about reckless unnecessary wars. Sorry, we got like a moral hang-up about the whole thing. All right, guys, let's take a moment and thank our sponsor for today's show, which is Cowboy Colostrum.

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Listen, I hate the Democrats. And if Kamala had one, we might still have a lot of people pouring over the border. We'd still be hearing about ESG scores and the woke agenda. There'd still be a glamorizing of the trans agenda. You know, you'd probably have more tech censorship. you'd have a lot of lunacy that I don't like. But at the end of the day, Donald Trump is a Democratic socialist and a war-hungry Democratic socialist.

And between his tariff policy for centralized government policy for more manufacturing jobs that will not be coming back. And now the fact that he's spending more money than anyone ever. And it's for, I think the military is a socialist institution. Yep, pretty sure it is. And so you're going to spend more money than anyone ever. And I mean, this is not conservative. Think about it, Rob. Think about it. You go, everything else is communism. So we need this. And this outspends communism. More government spending than the communist that you're talking about. Yeah. Well, it's the, listen, this is no different than the Democrats that went down with Biden and said, hey, Trump's just so bad that we're going to be dishonest about the fact that Biden has dementia. And at some point, I think it just showcases the fact that you're just playing team sports and that you're completely dishonest.

and that there's really no reason for anyone to listen to your opinions or analysis because there's nothing there other than, hey, we've got to play for our team and this is our team. So here's the best framing for what our team's doing. You're just state run propaganda at that point, essentially. It's like, dude, I can just listen to what the White House press secretary says in the morning. Why do I have to go watch Crowder's show? I get it. She says it first and then you defend whatever she said.

If that completely contradicts everything you said yesterday, okay, doesn't matter. we got to defend this now. It's, it's, you know, again, also, you know, for people who actually follow this stuff and are actually kind of aware of all of this, you know, what is he looking at? If he's going to talk about like really trying to harp on the worst things that the Democrats have done. And hey, look, no question. We all are in agreement about that.

I'm sure me, you and Crowder could sit down and talk about, you know, whatever. the climate agenda, the woke agenda, the COVID agenda, all of this and agree on all this stuff. But like, let's also remember history the way it actually happened. You're going, I'm really worried about compelled speech, Thor speech, arresting truckers. Okay, the worst tyranny that any of the woke progressive establishment was fully supporting were COVID lockdowns. Donald Trump was the president of the United States of America. He kept Fauci as the face of the response to COVID. He did nothing to expose the fact that, oh, yeah, Fauci made the thing and then lied about it.

Did nothing at all to prosecute Fauci. Keep in mind, this was way before he had the immunity from Joe Biden. It was before Joe Biden was president. He did nothing to bring down this regime. He, in fact, mocked those of us who were opposed to the lockdowns. the same way he threw all the January 6th was under the bus immediately and did nothing to try to pardon all of that.

Keep in mind, all those people at January 6th who were in solitary confinement for hundreds of days and all that stuff, Trump could have pardoned all of them. None of them had to go through that. But he didn't. It would have been politically difficult for him. So why the hell would he do something for someone else that's difficult for him?

That's not how Donald Trump operates. And like, so in other words, Donald Trump has the, when COVID came, he went all in on the tyranny with the whole thing. When, you know, he's the father of the vaccine. He's been bragging about that for all these years too. The deep state apparatus, which is really the control source in this country,

Donald Trump had a mandate to go after the criminals in the deep state and delivered zero, zero deep state arrests. So what are you telling me here, dude? we got this one opportunity to roll back this huge horrible thing that's coming next. Well, he hasn't done anything to roll that back. In fact, he just destroyed the coalition that could avoid that. Look, it's like, it's real simple like this. If you don't want to fall into this democratic communist, whatever you call it, nightmare,

okay, well, there's a coalition that will be a hedge against that. He just blew that up. Because we had one, like, Steve, look, from Stephen Colbert's position, He goes like a when he goes, look, if he didn't do anything in Iran or if he does too much in Iran, I still got to support this guy. He goes, okay, well, here's the thing.

For us, it's a non-negotiable. For us launching wars of aggression, wars of choice on behalf of Israel, is a deal breaker for us. So since you don't care either fucking way, since you said yourself, he could do nothing on a round and you'd still be supporting them.

Okay, well, for some number of us that is big enough to blow up this coalition, we do care. We do care if he does too much, because too much is a fucking euphemism for murdering people. So we care if he does too much. So there you go. There's kind of the deal.

Take it or leave it. And, you know, if that sounds like I'm being unreasonable, just, you know, I only had one demand, and that was don't go on mass murder campaigns. So, like, I think that actually is pretty reasonable. And then to sit here and just say, you'll support him no matter what, actually, that's how we get those Democrats back in power. Look, dude, the fucking, the, these irrelevant podcasters that he's talking about,

you know, irrelevant figures like Joe Rogan, who didn't make the list, by the way, which was good. It hasn't blown that one up yet. But he, all of these guys, like all of these huge shows, whether it's Tucker Carlson and Megan Kelly and Candace Owens, Alex Jones, Joe Rogan, Theo Vaughn, Andrew Schultz, like all these guys have millions and millions of followers. They conducted, they prosecuted the war against woke insanity

better than the Republican Party ever has. They're actually the ones who turned the culture against all of this stuff. And then they propelled Donald Trump into the White House. Like, they set this up perfectly, dude. You were in a situation where you had super majorities of the American people supported mass deportations. Super majorities of the American people had turned against wokeism. Super majorities of the American people had turned against the permanent warfare state that the deep state loves so much. You had it all right there for you.

This administration has come in and ruined all of that. So again, like I said, don't, listen. Don't turn around and blame us for this. Those are going to be the two steps here. Number one, the coalition is absolutely fine. No one blew it up. Number two, it's all your guy's fault for blowing it up. All the while, the truth is that all you had to do was just put some wins on the board,

come away with some of the things that you promised to do, and not launch a disastrous war that you just didn't need to, that you simply could have just not. There is not one metric. not one metric that wasn't just better before this war started, including the Strait of Hermus, the enriched geranium, all of it. It was all either at the exact same place or better with more innocent people alive eight weeks ago.

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