Part Of The Problem - Israel Declares War on Free Speech

Episode Date: September 30, 2025

Dave Smith brings you the latest in politics! On this episode of Part Of The Problem, Dave is joined by co-host Robbie "The Fire" Bernstein to discuss Benjamin Netanyahu's recent UN speech, and more.Support Our Sponsors:My Patriot Supply - https://www.mypatriotsupply.com/problemGo to BodyBrainCoffee.com, use code DAVE20 for 20% off your first orderKalshi - https://kalshi.com/daveLucy - https://lucy.co/ Use code "problem" for 20% off!Part Of The Problem is available for early pre-release at https://partoftheproblem.com as well as an exclusive episode on Thursday!PORCH TOUR DATES HERE:https://www.eventbrite.com/cc/porch-tour-2025-4222673Find Run Your Mouth here:YouTube - http://youtube.com/@RunYourMouthiTunes - https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/run-your-mouth-podcast/id1211469807Spotify - https://open.spotify.com/show/4ka50RAKTxFTxbtyPP8AHmFollow the show on social media:X:http://x.com/ComicDaveSmithhttp://x.com/RobbieTheFireInstagram:http://instagram.com/theproblemdavesmithhttp://instagram.com/robbiethefire#libertarianSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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All right. So a lot of stuff going on. There was quite a bit of news has been developing with the the Israel situation. Benjamin Netanyahu, of course, is in the United States of America. If you felt an unusual cold breeze this morning, that might have been old BB. He gave a speech at the United Nations a couple days ago. He just, like maybe an hour before we started recording this, he just showed up, arrived at the White House.

I'd imagine him and Trump will do some type of press conference or something like that. So there'll probably be some stuff to talk about tomorrow on that front. But even already, there's a couple things that have really been kind of, I don't know, dominating social media about his UN speech, his meeting with the influencers after and all that stuff. So I figured we'd get into all of that stuff today. I got to say, and I'm curious to get your kind of meta feedback on this, Rob, but to start with like my big picture take on all of it, is I just, you know, It's strange because obviously I'm somebody who's been, you know, talking about this conflict a lot, particularly over the last couple of years. And, you know, it's, I don't know, I've been in a lot of debates and shows about the subject. I still find myself like, I'm blown away by how bad this PR war is going for Israel, by how bad they are, how they're fundamental,

inability to grapple with the moment alone adjust to it and you know it just it it feels more and more overwhelmingly like you know I would I would compare it not saying there's a one-to-one comparison but just something about like during the COVID insanity if you remember Rob like it it was look it wasn't that long it was really like three years that the nation was swept up in in this COVID craziness before everyone just finally called it quits and stopped listening at all. And they kind of had no choice but to roll it all back. And but if you, if you start from say like March, April, May of 2020, it felt like it was me and you against the world. You know what I mean? Like I'm not saying, there were good people who were on our side too, but you know what I'm saying.

It felt like there was this group of us who were like, hey, we're against lockdowns. And this is crazy. And like the science doesn't actually justify. and against the censorship and and the whole culture of conformity of follow the science and turn your brain off and don't do your own research and so you're like as as time started going on just started snowballing like more and more people just started breaking ranks with supporting the dumb covid thing now almost almost everyone of your favorite uh you know political commentators was terrible on COVID at the beginning. Almost every one of them.

There's a small group of people who were good on it the whole time. That's what, you know, you'll find Ben Shapiro is, you know, saying get the vaccine dopes or whatever he was calling people. And Jordan Peterson was talking about how he got the vaccine so that he could have his freedom back in. Just so many of the people really, you know, they failed the moment. But then they slowly started to get off of the sinking ship toward the end. And it became, it started to become a thing by like 2022.

Okay, all of the policies were like still in place. But we were like, yo, we're winning. Like we're winning the argument. And then by 2023, it was just like, yo, this is, you better climb off this ledge if you were on it because you'll never be respected again unless you do. And then a lot of people did, you know. And a lot of people, I'm not even like trying to bash them. I'm kind of just saying what happened.

There's a lot of people like Pierce Morgan, tell you today that he's embarrassed over the stuff he was saying during COVID. Ben Shapiro will not defend his get the vaccine. Dopes. I'd imagine he won't. Like, and I got to say, I just feel like the same thing is happening with support for Israel. Like, it's just like, you're at this point where it's like, oh my God, we at first, there was a rag tag group of us who were against this thing. And then it just snowballed and snowballed and has gotten to a point now where it's just like, wow dude they are really losing this it it's it reminds me i'm not saying it's a one-to-one comparison but it reminds me of like fouchy like where netanyahu is now where it's just like

totally understood total just like as much of a consensus as you can get on anything you can get this consensus this guy is such a fucking liar like what a monster this guy is and you know like once it almost felt like with a lot of these guys like fouchy Cuomo. A lot of them, it was like once that stink got attached to them, they were never going to get it off. I don't know. Does that make sense, Rob? Yeah, there's definitely a like a life cycle of these storylines and how long you can run them out. And so for COVID, when you were lying about having to stay in your home or having to get a vaccine, it's just there's only so much time that you can keep that story going for. And I guess Netanyahu has been preaching us on this, you know,

why this war needs to exist if you even want to call it a war and two years later i think people have seen enough images of uh kids being killed in gaza have seen enough of these storylines and us sponsoring wars another part of the world alone isn't popular but then when it's going towards just whatever's going on in gaza that's particularly unpopular and then when you start having that if you're questioning it you're being called an anti-semit or you just start seeing censorship in regards to a topic where you're like, I'm just talking my mind. All those things are a recipe for disaster for keeping support to your cause. Like it just, there's only so much time that you can do these things for before, uh, everyone realizes what's going on. Yeah. No, I think that I think that's

right. You know, and, and it's, uh, you know, these things like, again, there's, there's other examples you could look to, but just for, for, for example, if you remember, like, there was the trans debate was like so um it's it's hard to even like as i'm saying this like really appreciate how it was only a few years ago that it was like you were taking your career in your hands if you started saying like hey i don't think we should trans eight year olds like in fact i think that's a little crazy i don't think this should be taught to children like what um and now that's just like it seems like the safest opinion in the world to have like i can't even think of you know i i can't think of left wing shows or liberal shows and i've done a decent amount of them over

the years but even like ones i haven't done like you know i don't i can't picture one liberal or left wing show that i would go on and say you shouldn't be transing kids and would even be prepared for a fight. I would just be prepared for everyone to agree with that right now. It just big, but it's, in only a few years, it went from being a wildly controversial, and don't give me wrong, because a lot of these controversies are manufactured, but it went from being a wildly controversial idea to being a total consensus, as much of, as you could get a consensus on just about anything, you know, maybe not quite, but like an 80-20 issue, for sure. And it's just things, things can move very quick, especially in this new, in this new world.

And just, I guess, you know, on one level, you know, I'm, you know, the, the feeling about Netanyahu's UN speech is always just like how, how evil it is. But the thing that even like kind of overwhelmed that for me was just the feeling of like, oh, man, this is getting. so bad. All right, guys, let's take a moment and thank our sponsor for today's show, which is Lucy. If you are bored with your nicotine routine, Lucy breakers can help you shake things up. It's packed with nicotine without the bitter taste. You'll want them everywhere you go.

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you here like i'm sure a bunch of you have already seen the clips we'll play a couple of other clips but i but essentially the entire u.n walks out on him before he starts his speech um most of the countries left if you see there's there's like you know bird's eye pictures of it the overwhelming majority of the room is empty seats um with the israeli delegation cheering loud for every word that he said, like, which is already just like the optics of it are not great, not saying that proves anything one way or the other, but like the optics of this are bad. But like, there is an arrest warrant out for Netanyahu from the international criminal court over war crimes. He is being widely accused in pretty much every nation on earth.

There are loud voices with huge percentages of the population who agree with them, accusing him of being guilty of genocide, carrying out a genocide of a captive people. And he gets up there for this speech, Rob, and he starts like, oh, look, here, let's play the one clip. What's the one clip we have here of, I think, the joke he made we have?

Can we pull that up? This is on the Pagers. Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's right. Here we go. Let's just play this. Remember those beepers, the Pagers? We page Cizabala. And believe me, they got the message.

and thousands of terrorists thousands of terrorists drop to the bar that's who's cheering okay so anyway that's just the look dude I'm just saying and I understand you can say

Hezbollah are terrorists or whatever I mean sure like you know by any definition are they more terrorists than the IDF no but I mean that Hezbollah is essentially a government I mean they've been I think you know I think politically they've been in control of southern Lebanon for, what, 20 years or something like that now?

I mean, whatever. But just the idea, Rob, that you're like cracking jokes about the people your government kills in this environment seemed so profoundly out of touch. Like even watching it, you know, and Netanyahu's always like, he's never been, look, Netanyahu, he speaks very. very good English, much better English than your average Israeli. And that's part of the reason why he's been the longest serving prime minister in Israeli history. He's good at kind of working, you know, an American crowd. But, you know, he's never been a particularly charismatic guy.

He always has his little visual aids and his thing. You know, it's like, it's never like a great speech giver. But this to me, I was just like, yo, are you my people are accusing you of being the reincarnation. of Adolf Hitler. They're accusing you of being the most evil person in the world conducting a brutal genocide and you're up here cracking jokes about the people your government's killed while you lecture everybody. And oh, by the way, on top of that, which is just something that nobody can ignore in this situation. And there's a fundamental disconnect here that like the Israelis just seem to not understand this. But look, it is one thing

if the leader of a nation, like, let's say the leader of Russia in the 20th century, whoever you want to pick Gorvachar or Stalin or Khrushchev or whoever, like the leader of the Soviet Union, or let's say the leader of the United States of America or the leader of like, but like Israel is a country the size of New Jersey who, everybody knows is completely dependent on America to their survival. I mean, like, it's just, you know, we have to give them billions of dollars. They could not conduct any of their wars without American support. We also have to give billions of dollars to the Jordanians and the Egyptians and the Saudis. Like, we have to, we have to bribe every country that's ever gone to war

with Israel in the region in order to get them, keep them not going to war with them. And like, then for you to turn around and be bragging about the devastation your country imposes like you're not even self-sufficient what are you talking about here sir you're being accused of genocide and you're making wise cracks about the human beings that your government's killed like what are you doing i don't know just so crazy to me and on that incident it's not even uh all that clear to me that there weren't civilians that were killed in those attacks

as they didn't happen just in public places. Yes, yes, no, I think there were civilians who were injured and killed. I think like the ratio wasn't bad.

It was mostly the people they wanted to get. But still, like, there's just, and even if you're just going to say those were the terrorists, it's like when, look, if, again,

just like in simple human terms, if you're, if my policy, like, my actions resulted in tens of thousands of dead children and people are furious about this and then you get up there and I just start bragging about the bad guys I killed in this period of time. It's just very out of touch. And there's these other parts where, you know, and I do think this part of the reason why I compared it to, you know, the COVID stuff or even the trans stuff

is that, you know, there was something, like I would say from our perspective, you know, what's the old saying, like how you make a fortune or how an empire falls apart or whatever, but where they go like slowly at first and then all at once? I think it was how did you go broke, is what that came from, slowly at first and then all at once. You know, like with all of those things, at least from our perspective, Rob, right? That's how it happened, right? It's like slowly, little by little by little, you start like winning the argument. And then all of a sudden it's like a rut, like the floor just falls out.

And it's just like, oh, that's it. It's over. You know, it's crazy, how quickly it can happen. And part of the reason why I'm feeling this way about the thing, because the other big part of his speech was now he has to respond to the fact that the UK and France have both publicly come out in support of a Palestinian state. And so he has to respond to that and do a whole section about like, how they won't shove a Palestinian state down our throat. Again, I think it's something that's really balzy when you're not a self-sufficient country. But I will say, man, and this has always been the game.

Like, this has been true for my entire lifetime. And it's part of the reason why Israel only survived reputationalally in a very controlled media environment. And it's because as soon as you're talking about a Palestinian, Indian state, the Zionists are losing the argument. As soon as that's the topic, you're losing the argument very badly for obvious reasons. I mean, I'll spell them out. But this is why in a in a Zionist controlled media environment, the questions are always going to be framing the issue around, does Israel have a right to exist? Do you condemn Hamas? What about October 7th? It's always going to be framed in this way.

They don't want to start talking about a Palestinian state because there simply is no, it's an indefensible position for so many reasons. Like, look, it is just totally not accepted anywhere, anywhere in the advanced world, that a state is something that you get to choose whether or not you give a group of people. like it's the obvious norm for civilization at this point for post-enlightenment western civilization is that essentially there's two options right like you either give you either allow people to create their own state like a group at or if you're forcing them to be incorporated into a state well then they're citizens with voting rights that's the standard you don't you don't get to

keep a group of people say you can't have a government in other words we are your government but you don't get to be a citizen or have voting rights in in within our system like we just no one does that and so as soon as the conversation is like well we're not going to allow you to give the palestinians a state in gaza and the west bank you go well so wait so what is it is it israel if it's israel then you're an apartheid state that's holding millions of people without citizenship, and if it's not Israel, why do you get to determine whether or not they have a state? Like, even when he's like, oh, you want to reward, you know, Hamas with a state, people in Western civilization do not conceive of a state as something that is a reward.

It's like, it's like, oh, you want to, you want to reward somebody with the right to live or something like that. Like, it's like, that's not how anyone conceives of it. So as soon as this conversation starts. You're just already losing. There's no, it's like, you know, and even the, like that, that cop who I was arguing with the other day, that dummy was, you know, he doesn't know anything, but he's like, five times they offered them a state. Like, that's the talking point. It's not true, but that's the talking point. And it's like, what? So because you offered it once, you get to just take it off the table. And like, like, let's just say theoretically that that was true, even though it's not. Five times you've offered them a full state. And they've said, no, every time.

time. So what? Like if you had slaves and you went, I offered them their freedom 20 years ago and they turned it down. You go, wait, what? So you just get to keep them as slaves indefinitely? Like, no, it's not even something that should be offered. It's not yours to give. It's something that you should never infringe upon. You know what I mean? And before you anarchists start picking on me about that. I'm not actually saying that I'm just saying you can't rule over them with your state. you have to leave them to their own devices and you know probably they're not going to figure out an capistan so a state is more likely the result of that but anyway i just found the whole thing like the optics of it the point of it like it's not even like he doesn't even have um like

the wherewithal to make the tone of the speech be listen you know i've been i've been accused of genocide by a lot of people and as a jewish person you know like Like that hits home. That really hits home to be met with that accusation. And while I disagree with that, I think we've conducted this war in a fair way, blah, blah, blah, I hear your calls. And that's why today I'm announcing that we are going to 10x the amount of aid that's getting in. We're going to 10x the precaution.

You know, at this point, we've destroyed the entire Gaza Strip. We're going to really be careful about limiting civilian casualties going forward. Something. Something. Instead, he's cracking jokes about the people he kills and lecturing everyone. everybody else about how Palestinians somehow don't deserve statehood. What group, Rob, what group of people in the context of modern society do you just go, they don't deserve statehood? It's just too, like you're already losing the argument when you go down that

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yeah i guess at this point the uh strong man and confidence game tactics just uh channels to people does this guy actually run our show or why does he get to get away with this and uh just speaking to the narrative changing macrone was sitting down with trump the other day and pointed out that the reason why they're i mean i think it's an empty gesture but the reason they're backing Palestinian state is because he said you know where's been going on two years he got just as much Tomas fighters is when you started. This isn't working. And one of the things I saw, which is really interesting, so, you know, Trump usually

just tells us, I've got the most fantastic solution. Don't worry. It gives no details. This time he hasn't publicly put out the details. Apparently they got this 21-point plan. And the chatter is that Whitkoff Kushner and all the Arab countries have had it. All of the Arab countries have apparently agreed to this deal. And one of the line items in this deal, which I was fascinated by, was amnesty for

Hamas and that if they swear to be peaceful, they will be allowed to stay in the region, which really undermines the one, hey, Hamas has to go. And two, we can never have peace with these people because they've sworn to our destruction. So if that, if that piece of the deal remains in the deal, it undermines what you've heard from Israel for the last, you know, 20, 30 years. Well, but particularly the last two. I mean, it's been their justification for this whole campaign is that we have to fight until the eradication of Hamas and then they've kept saying it for the whole last year we're almost there the job's not quite done yet there's still some Hamas here so that would you know I just I have a real tough time thinking that the Israelis are going to accept that

especially with what their attitude seems to be again Rob like as you pointed out there it's like I should also make you know that that point should be made clear too that like okay because it's not just the accusation is that you're committing a genocide the act is also that you're like really kind of running the show here or really puppeteering the United States of America. And instead of trying to dissuade anyone of that notion, I mean, we're about to play the next clip, which really is actually, I think, substantially more outrageous than even his speech at the UN. But I'm sorry, go ahead. There might be a poison pill in the 21 point plan that I think the starting point is that they

give up all the hostages, which is essentially saying you have to give up all your leverage and Hamas gets to no longer exist, but you can have amnesty. So it might just, and you never know with Trump when he just turns around two weeks later like we saw with Zelensky. Hey, war's got to be over changing it to. What do you need? Do you want Tomahawk missiles to go on the offensive? Yeah, yeah. That's right. And it requires, it requires a lot to say like, hey, you put down your gun first and then Israel will put down theirs. But, uh, and also, I, There was rumor that Tony Blair's going to end up running the show over there. And there's going to be a big Elon Musk investment, which then also starts sounding like the goofy Riviera, the Middle East and the Gossans are being thrown out.

So, like, listen, it's early and we don't know what's going on. But you did have that offhand comment from Trump last week, basically saying, like, no on new settlement developments. Like, we've had enough. Well, it wasn't, it was specifically on annexation of the West Bank. Right. And he was specifically asked of like, will, would you allow? And, you know, this is. kind of something that was interesting to me because first of all i have like i'm not the first one

who said this i've heard other people like say this but it's always at least been partially just conjecture um i mean don't get me wrong like they've they've increased settlement building on the west bank and settlement building on the west bank has been you know uh um in ever present clearly intentional obstacle to the creation of a Palestinian state. That's essentially what it's all been designed to do. It's a slow-moving annexation, essentially. But a bunch of people I've heard say,

or a few people I should say I've heard say, that like, you know, I really wouldn't be surprised if Netanyahu tries to annex the West Bank at this point, like, and make this, his legacy, make anything else than the, you know, like the obvious his legacy i mean at this point it's it's really crazy right like the net for people who follow this shit the netanyahu doctrine the center of benjamin netanyahu like for people who don't know the backstory of this guy right he was aside from being like as i've

talked about many times like the neoconservatives you know kind of like partner in in israel it was always the neocons and the lacudnecks were joined at the hip but aside from that and i i guess i don't focus on this as much rob because me and you are americans and really the point of all this is uh we care about our country that's you know so like this is always coming from an american-centric point of view but you know for and you might know a bit about this rob but you know so like yitzhak rabin was the prime minister of israel in the 90s who famously signed on to the oslo accords who said we're gonna make a deal and give the palestinians a state you know detain details aside from that. This was what he said publicly. And Netanyahu, this was very controversial

in Israel. Netanyahu, he was the chief opponent of this plan. He was like, screw you, you've sold this out. Dude, Netanyahu was a, do you know this detail, Rob? That Yitzhak Rabin's wife still hates Netanyahu to this day and blames him for the assassination of her husband. And it was somebody just post. I'd seen this like a long time ago. Someone just posted the interview clip, the video clip of her earlier today. I can't remember who I saw that from. But she, because they basically held this rally because they were protesting the Oslo Accords going through

and giving the Palestinians the own state. Netanyahu was one of the featured speakers there. And they had like pictures of Itzak Rabin in like Nazi uniform. And then Netanyahu even walked in this parade where they had like a, a mock casket like that they were carrying a rat like i'm saying like you know the conversation after charlie kirk where they're like is the political rhetoric a little bit too heated you couldn't imagine anything as he did as this political rhetoric like in israel calling the prime minister a nazi walking around with with his casket or a representation of what's supposed to and then a netanyahu

fan went and fucking murdered itzak rabin like that's how that's that was his background story and um you know, just like to have this like your whole career, the centerpiece of your doctrine was that we are going to thwart the creation of a Palestinian state. And you even decided to prop up Hamas in an effort to do that. And then you didn't protect your citizens on October 7th. And then you led what most of the world considers a genocide, which has completely alienated, you know, Israel's reputation, just an absolute diplomatic nightmare for them. So that's his, that's his legacy as of now. So anyway, a bunch of us were just speculating. And I said on my last Rogan appearance that I was like, well, look, I'm not claiming to be any smarter than the goddamn Israelis,

okay? And they know, on some level, they know the writings on the wall. The younger generation will never support you the way the older generation did. And so what does that lead you to think? You know, if you know that you're never going to have this level of unconditional support going forward but you also have the trump administration and right now who you know is going to give you anything you want they i said it they might try to annex the west bank anyway the reason i bring that up is just it's kind of interesting that this question even gets asked to president trump because why are you even asking that question this is just something i was speculating about like it's not like i got any evidence that he's actually going to try to do the thing just kind of made sense

to me but trump did and i'm thankful for this he did go on record pretty forcefully that he absolutely will not support that now that being said i got to see it to believe it like if if they actually tried to annex the west bank who knows who knows what would happen but i i guess yeah i was wrong about it i guess it was annexation but i guess what's being channeled at least from the trump administration right now is that um they're pretty displeased with the attack that took place in cutter and that uh they're trying to uh rein in nantaniahu at the moment and uh like i said you never know with Trump and what it changes or whatnot, but that seems to be the look right now. Yeah, you know, in the, in the, in the great book of the Israel lobby, the opening of the book

starts out with like, there's like a paragraph just basically about how they're like, I forget which year the book was written in, but they're like, we have a presidential election coming up next year. And it's too early to say who's going to win or lose. But, you know, what we can guarantee is that there'll be fierce debates about health care and immigration and this or that and they'll even be fierce debates about foreign policy how many troops we should move into Iraq or what we should do with this or that and he goes but one thing that can be guaranteed is when the subject of Israel comes up both candidates will completely agree and they'll be tripping over themselves to see who can praise Israel more than the other one and then he gets that's how he opens the book

And they get to, why is this the dynamic in American politics, you know? And but it's a thing like that, too, where, yeah, look, dude, Trump was obviously furious over their bombing of Iran after he called for a ceasefire. He obviously was not happy about them bombing Qatar and an ally of the United States of America. He clearly is not happy that the war is still continuing. And he's not happy about, you know, settlements and, and, and, and, potential annexation of the West Bank, but it does just still lead to the question of, so when do you do something about that?

When do you even pretend to do something about that? This is the war that you're financing after all. This is the country that you're financing after all. Just kind of hard to miss that elephant in the room. All right, guys, let's take a moment and thank our sponsor for today's show, which is My Patriot Supply. It is National Preparedness Month, and MyPatriotsupply.com has their national preparedness month sale on.

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Let's get back into the show. All right. Let's go to the clip. This is after the UN speech. A truly remarkable, a remarkable moment here. and this is Benjamin Netanyahu sitting down with like

some content creators so you know podcasters and stuff people on the internet and this is him sitting down with them and they're discussing openly discussing strategy let's let's take a listen

question influencer you said he talked about the woke right he said I call it the woke right that's a brilliant i'm sorry just already okay so here's the first really fucking weird part of all of this right is just kind of funny that like um this woke right thing is like this has been an argument on twitter that like i've gotten into with like james lindsay and

constantin and it's just like it's wild to see netting yahoo just jumping on to the phrase. So number one, that's pretty weird. And by the way, it does, you know, it does a lot to back up my point that there's a reason why Netanyahu loves this talking point so much because it's always, the whole woke right thing has always just been a way to smear the anti-war right wingers, plain and simple. It's, it's, I was arguing a little bit on Twitter the other day with it. It is unbelievable how, how people, like, who are defending the position, they just, like, have to come up with this. You know, it's the shit we destroyed that James Lindsay was doing months ago.

You come up with this crazy vague definition that essentially could apply to anyone. Like, they'll be like, here's my definition of woke right. Identitarians who focus on grievance politics and want to seize power for themselves. And you're like, dude, that literally, that definition applies to George Washington, Adolf Hitler, Rachel Maddo. and Benjamin Netanyahu, you know? So like it's kind of a useless definition if it's so wide as to describe every political leader of all time

and every political group of all time. Anyway, but so here Benjamin Netanyahu actually jumps on this term. And then he points out that some guy said, hey, they're not the woke right. They're the woke rake. Get it? And then Benjamin Netanyahu goes,

that's really brilliant when you think about it. You're like, it's brilliant. You thought it was brilliant to go, hey, Rob, I've got a crazy idea. This is going to blow your mind, just the sheer genius that I'm going to come at you with right now. Let's call our political opponents Nazis. No one's tried that. Just came up with that off the top of my head. Dude, we're going to devastate them.

We'll call them Nazis. Like, what the, wow. Really getting creative here, BB. He couldn't even believe he opened with that. But, okay, it gets so much worse. Let's keep playing. They're not any different from the woke left. I mean, they're insane.

They're going to be. But they're actually meeting on some of the things. And what we have to do is we have to secure that part of the base of our support in the United States. That is being challenged systematically. A lot of this is done with money, money of NGOs. vast money of government's bastard okay we have to fight back could we just gloss for second i'd love to know more on that storyline because uh i know you and i haven't gotten a paycheck and i would love to know what you can take the the screen off when we're when we're just talking perfect i would

just love to know what evidence or what funding and how much funding exists uh for this anti-israel storyline and who the NGOs are and uh you know where do i fill out an application because i certainly have a scene a paycheck and i all love to know rub the ball there's just the balls of him for him to be like other people are manipulating storylines and that's the issue there's look on a personal level which i should probably lead with the issues that matter not my own personal feelings but on a personal level you're like what's a guy got to do to get an offer like where are these catars how many how many high profile debates and shows do i have to go on delivering these supposed kutari talking points before somebody there all these NGOs with their vast amounts of

money robin the governments with even more when did they come a knocking me maybe even a bonus check at the end of the year you know hey uh we know you didn't have to do any of this but we appreciate your efforts it would see it seems like it the right thing to do regardless of that yeah i mean so but then there there's this fundamental um problem that essentially all of the uh which which seems to be a talking point of all of the uh the the the Zionists on twitter or whatever and the the people who are still who are going down with this sinking ship uh it seemed they're they're like oh you know katari influence or something like that uh you know the tucker katari son and and katari Owens or whatever, you know, like, that's what it at Tucker Carlson and Candace Owens were to believe

are puppets of the Qataris. Now, a couple of the major problems they have here, right, is that, and it's funny, right, because they object so much that they'll tell you that it's an anti-Semitic trope, a blood libel, I've been informed, to say that Israel exercises any influence over our government. yet they'll just turn around and say the same thing say oh no it's katar is actually the one who's doing it so all of the sudden that's not a horrible evil hateful thing to say now it's acceptable but you just the reason this talking point isn't working it's it's fairly obvious and and it's not even the fact that you never have to like you never have to demonstrate any evidence of that

you know like we're all funded by katar and NGOs okay does does anyone have any of it like is there a paper trail of any of this because please sign Somebody. Let me see it. And so no, you don't have to death. But the real issue you have isn't even that. Because, you know, like people get conspiratorial and they don't always need real evidence. You give them a narrative and some people jump on it, as you guys know well. The real issue you have is, like I said before, the U.S. government gives more aid to Israel than any other country in the world by far. And enormously more if you start to count the wars that we fight on. their behalf if you start then you're really getting into territory and like i said before if you count the foreign aid that we give to all their surrounding countries which of course rob is just more foreign aid to israel right like the three billion a year or whatever it is that we give egypt and the billions that we give to jordan and all of this this is still more for israel when you kind of we give so much unconditional military support like we were saying a second ago

no matter how much they piss off uh americans or our government or anything we still support So just given that fact, how are you going to sell everybody on the fact that Hamas has rigged this whole system? You know what I mean? Like Qatar has rigged this whole system. It's just never going to work. And now we're about to go to the scarier part where he starts talking about his influence. Yes, let's play the rest of this. Our influence.

I think you should also talk to them if you have a chance to that community. They're very important. And secondly, we're going to have to use the tools of battle. You know, the weapons change over time. You can't fight today with swords that doesn't work very well. And you can't find with the fight with cavalry. That doesn't work very well. And you have these new things, you know, like drones, things like that.

I won't get into that. But we have to fight with the weapons that apply to the battlefields in which we're engaged. And the most important ones are on social media. And the most important purchase that is going on right now is class. Tick-T-T-T-T-T-T-O. Number one. And I hope it goes through because it can be consequential. And the other one, what's the other one? That's most important.

Can you pause on the TikTok one? Sure. Yeah, but let's, like, just before, I want to hear your thoughts on TikTok. It's actually very interesting. But before we get to that, it just, look, dude, I'm not being crazy here. like there is Benjamin Netanyahu has been accused of genocide not just by you know like many people but by a long list of genocide scholars international humanitarian organizations you know a case at the International Court of Justice he's also had to deny I believe at least twice publicly that he was responsible for the murder of charge Charlie Kirk. Now, we certainly have not been saying that he is, and I still stand by my original statements on all of that, not seeing any reason to suspect that Israel did kill Charlie

Kirk. But nonetheless, he's had to deny that accusation. And here he is. This is part of it, like, so brazenly. Like, you're in the, first of all, this should just never be allowed, like, this to happen. The leader of a foreign country who is dependent on America, gets to just come in here and talk about how he's working to swing the influence in his direction and start calling Americans Nazis for the crime of not supporting the policy of aiding him and his country. But to start using, I'm sorry, man, in this environment, like a couple weeks after Charlie Kirk's been killed, to start using all this terminology of we're in a new battle and we need new weapons of war and and you know you know swords don't work anymore we need drone bombs and the real

battle is on social media against the woke right like dude that is i don't care if you even if you're a supporter of israel even if you completely disagree with me on all of my takes on this conflict if you just have a shred of goddamn integrity a shred of uh of loyalty to your country over foreign ones you should just be like yeah dude no like no country who is dependent on us should start getting in here and game planning their strategy to ruin the americans exercising their first amendment rights speaking up against support of your country and that is just wild i mean i don't know how any reasonable person can oppose that um but then also just this yeah man i'm sorry that's pretty weird language to be using and then of course he gets a little

bit more specific. Now, again, Rob, if you were to go out and say that, like, oh, you know, the Trump administration is facilitating the sale of TikTok to like a pro-Israel billionaire who's going to be doing their bidding, you would be accused of a blood libel. That's like an anti-Semitic trope. Yet here, Benjamin Netanyahu can just say it. He just gives away the entire game. Anyway, here, go ahead. Your thoughts on the TikTok stuff. Well, I mean, also, if you want to talk about censorship, it's a foreign government, I guess, lobbying or influencing the United States to take over social media platforms so that I guess they can remove the opinions that they don't want on the platform. There was a bit of an omission in going after TikTok that governments can't be doing data collection. Well, why? What is the concern of governments having all this information?

and is it something that the United States government is doing? And is it really in my better interest that the United States, you know, is collecting all my dad or a peddling influence when a foreign government might be giving me information that's actually in my interest? I'm not saying that the CCP always does this. I'm just saying that there could be instances where the CCP is actually more aligned with my personal freedoms or information. And that's in letting me know, hey, maybe the Ukraine war is not a good idea, which might also be in their interest. but I'm just saying there could be propaganda points where a foreign gover's interest is actually more truthful

and more in line with my own. And now you've got this scary storyline and there's much bigger experts on this, but Larry Ellison, who owns Oracle, I guess, is going to be taking over TikTok. He personally sends millions of dollars over to the IDF, which is a weird charitable contribution to make. I understand making a contribution to Israel,

making a charitable contribution to the militaries is a little bit strange. I'm just saying there are charities that help children with leukemia, and instead you chose to donate to like the biggest murderer of children. Yes, it's a bit... Or I even understand donating to hospitals in Israel. I understand that. It's just different when you're donating funds specifically to the military.

But then also, and this is where other people are much bigger story experts than I am, but I guess Oracle does have a history of, you know, CIA funding from its onset and also engaging in data collection for the United States of America. So now you got Netanyahu behind closed doors. I don't know why he allowed this to be filmed, but, you know, at least, uh, given a nudge to, hey, it's really important to the Israeli government that we don't have free social media platforms and TikTok was a big concern. And it looks like we figured out how to control TikTok.

I mean, forget talking about Jimmy Kimmel or censorship. You want a censorship story. This is the one to be talking about. And now he's about to go on, start talking about Twitter. Let's play the next part, and then we'll discuss it more. X. That's very good. And, you know, so we have to talk to Elon.

He's not an enemy. He's a friend. We should talk to him. Now, if we can get those two things, we get a lot, and I could go on on other things, but that's not the point right now. We have to fight the fight, okay, to take, give direction to the Jewish people and give direction to our non-Jewish friends or those who could be our Jewish friends. are we going to succeed with everyone no will there be a strong kind of yes give direction i think

he means remove our freedom of speech i think that's what i mean what well look it is after using these cuts like i'm i'm really trying to not be like you know uncharitable here and i'm not trying to claim you said something he didn't say but you're like okay so you just used a bunch of war metaphors and then said we got our guy to buy ticot and and we have a friend at x in elin mussel we really really got to reach out to him, like, to do what? Descent to the internet. Yeah, like, come on. I mean, what is the other plausible answer to this other than the fact that they'll do

what they've been doing in the past, which I guess Elon Musk is not doing nearly as much of now, at least according to my Twitter feed, but certainly I know that TikTok was doing all types of things to pull down the pro-Palestinian, you know, anti-Israel videos and stuff like that that were going so super viral all over the last few years now i mean i don't think it's been such a a wave that i think there's no way to fight it completely because it's just you know it's just the thing that everybody's you know the young people are all agreeing on but like yeah i'm sorry dude you're talking about a foreign leader in the middle of like let's let's just be charitable and fair here in the middle of the most controversial you know military policy in the world

right now, a situation, like a tragic, horrible situation where tens of thousands of children have been slaughtered and the entire Gaza Strip has been destroyed. And this person is dependent on America to back this policy. And they're coming over here openly talking about how they're going to manipulate our mediums of communication. I'm sorry, like, who's for this? As you said, Rob, you nailed, you hit the nail on the head. How are you doing this on camera?

How is this not, like, this seems like it should be a meeting that the coochiest anti-Israel nut is claiming happened that you're like, I don't know. We don't really have like the minutes of the meeting or the transcript or anything. He didn't openly say we're trying to manipulate the American communication system. He didn't compare it to a war. Oh, wow. Oh, no, he did. He did all of that. I mean it is really it's wild it's wild that this is on tape all right guys let's take a moment

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You know, like, there's a tape of Netanyahu. I'd imagine many of you have probably seen it already by now. But there's a tape of Netanyahu where he's bragging about the poison pills that he put in the peace process and that he was able to, he was able to basically trick Bill Clinton into thinking, like, he's like, oh, yeah, we'll give, we'll give the palis. of the West Bank, they can control everything except for the important military zones. And I put into the agreement that we get to determine what the important military zones are. So I say, all of Area C is a military zone and blah, but, like he's bragging about how basically

I've set it up so that I'll never be able to give the Palestinians estate. I tricked the Americans. And then he's openly just bragging about how ridiculous it is that he can move the Americans. He goes, 80% of them support us. We can control the whole thing. But he's secretly being recorded and he's speaking in Hebrew. You know what I mean? Like that seems like how it's supposed to go.

Like a kid, it's not clear what happens in the video because like I don't, you've seen it, Rob, but at one point there at one point, B.B tells the kid to turn the camera off. And it's not clear whether like he messes up or he intentionally let it keep rolling. But that's the way these videos are supposed. Not in English with a full camera set up there. It's wild. I wonder why they're hemorrhaging support. But I will say, it is pretty amazing, and we could have a little bit of fun with this one, Rob. It is pretty amazing what their plan of attack here actually is.

You know, one of the things, someone asked me about academic agent, I went back and forth with him on Twitter a little bit. I'm not super familiar with him. I saw one of his videos where he was saying nice things about me. That's all it takes for me to like a person. But he was like, I was talking about this video, which we're about to play. And he was like, why are they so bad at this? Like, what do you think it is? And I just, the answer I had was just, you know, and there's probably more to it than this.

But I said that I think there's this general, like, atrophy that has really built up. Maybe built up is not the best way to define atrophy, but the opposite of built up. hatrophy, but that it's really developed all across kind of like the corporate media, Hollywood, academia, and I think it's all of these institutions that had like monopolistic control just never had to really keep improving and keep getting better and keep, you know, whereas like the, you know, those of us who are like critical of this stuff, we've just, we came up in the internet like we've our whole lives been battling and bad you know it's like rob like you used to see when like there'd be like an old famous sitcom actor and he'd go do a stand-up set

and it's just garbage you know it's just like terrible and then there'll be like some young comic who's like he's come up in the nightclubs every night he's a killer he's been doing rooms full of drunk people who don't know who he is who don't care who he is you know this is like why it went so bad for kramer when he tried to go do stand-up act you're You've been in an environment for 20 years where everybody, you have a warm-up guy. There's an applause sign. You're a celebrity. Everyone's thrilled the second you enter the room.

Kramer would just open the door and come into Jerry's apartment. And the entire world is like, we love you. You're here. And now you go back into the trenches. And then a nightclub with some drunk guy. He doesn't give a shit. It's like, be funny, Kramer. You know, and you're like, your goddamn N-word.

You know, like, you just, like, didn't know what to do. anyway I just think there's this atrophy that's developed like they don't even know they're so used to being able to bully people into submission that they're like fuck we can't do that anymore it doesn't work so it's just let's try to bully them a different way let's try to believe if I'm not getting you know I'm not sure I apologize if I've gotten this wrong but in my defense they are also interchangeable but when Max Blumenthal was on the show and he was talking about one of these like blonde chick influencer girls. And I was like, oh, yeah, I think that's the dummy I debated on Pierce Morgan. But that was a different one. And I think this is the dummy I debated on Pierce Morgan. And I'll be honest, I'm not sure. I might have been right the first time. I might be right this time. I can't believe that this isn't satire. If it's, if it's not, then this is on the level of what Jaguar did with its commercial or what Bud Light did with Dylan Mulvaney, that they are just talking to the wrong marketing people and

spending way too much money on what i can tell you will only lose you think you're going to win over the supposed white the white woke right the right wing people you think they're going to win them over with this shit or even even think about this right the fucking the the right wingers who aren't what you would call the woke right okay but there's still right wingers right like there's still this you're still talking about other right wiggers who like this is but Anyways, I'd have a preface of it. But anyway, I do, there's something that's really just interesting and kind of revealing about all of this. But here, without further ado, let's play.

This is the type of influence, the best influence that Israel can buy right here for you. Let's take a look. Imagine supporting people who start wars just to lose the wars so they can cry about it and then try it all again. You must see anti-Semites are literally obsessed with Jews. Now walk with me. While you must see anti-Semites are stacking eviction notices, Jews are out here stacking up businesses. Jews control all the industries. Maybe if you spend more time taking notes from successful people,

you wouldn't have to spend your nights and weekends spreading hate from your anonymous account with an anime profile picture. Do you work as hard as Jews? Do you network like Jews? No, because you're too busy cheering on a group of musty terrorists who smell like dirty earring backs. And if we're going to keep a real, you're really mad because your income is giving side hustle. How are you going to hate from outside Shabbat? You can't even get in. So I guess the only question to ask is, like, why do you guys want so badly to see another Holocaust?

Like, why is that your mission in life? Wouldn't it be something you'd want to avoid? Like, what, I mean, could you just think of a boy? Like, yeah, let's get a. That's a sassy gay guy to be a cunt to you. Yeah, let's get the most vapid, like child. These are people in their 30s, by the way. Like, let's get the most vapid, self-absorbed, like people we can find.

One of them will be a girl with a star of David around her neck. The other will be, like, the most insufferable over-the-top black gay dude to start lecturing Americans about how you just hate. the Jews because you're poor we're just so much better than you that's why okay it's like and you know like i don't know i don't know who this is for who they think it can't be i i don't know it's part of their gas and wall campaign that's what it is you i mean i can't imagine this appealing to any group but i guess it's like what someone who was like watches sex in the city or something like that but it's just the the idea that anyone

And talk about, I mean, just completely misunderstanding, also like the influencer thing, like completely misunderstanding what is going on on the internet here and why it is that your support is collapsing. They actually, what like these are, these are supposed to be two people, these are two human beings who have serious concerns on matters of public policy. Rob, is that what we're looking at here? I'm not saying anybody you've got to be like a suit and tie stuffyed up guy or something but these are like these are actors these are and the most like vapid ones not even the ones who take on like serious roles

or enjoy making good films like the most it's just so awful just so I don't know man I don't like also by the way I really am to some degree I mean that look I'm I really am a libertarian in my spirit like I don't really care if you're gay or not. I don't care at all who you have sex with.

But I hate that. Whatever that is, is just like, like, forget it being attached to who you have sex with. Just that personality trait is just the most obnoxious, self-absorbed, like, you know, infantile person. That sip of the... It's like, I don't know. I just can't imagine. It's like you're in totality here. here, you're hemorrhaging support. You're at the end of your, you know, the end of the line here.

Like, at least Fauci came out and said, no, I never recommended lockdowns. Like, okay, that was a bad lie. We weren't going to believe that. But your way to deal with this Netanyahu is to like crack jokes about the people you kill, lecture Americans who don't support you, call them Nazis, say you're going to war with them and that you're launching this big effort to control American communications. And then start putting shit like this out that's the ace up your sleeve this has to be this is the only thing that makes sense is that this is to try and stir up real anti-semitism so that they can go back to look at how anti-semitic everyone is and pretend like it's not just an anti-israel thing and it's amazing to be validating tropes in your own propaganda where you're like do you hate

paying rent to a jew well maybe because it's your loser and you haven't figured out how to own a building yeah like jesus yeah that that makes us all like jews more yeah no it does like it does seem at this and the we've already talked about this but the oh the religious state the important jewish state is hiring cunty gay guys to preach at me about uh that i should just shut up and take it having to pay a jewish landlord yeah yeah now that'll also that'll that'll that'll resonate in the hood i'm sure that guy that guy represents black america i've ever someone has um it's uh it's it's becoming a more and more plausible theory that this is actually intentional to drum up chew hatred it's like it's hard to find another unifying answer

that does explain everything perfectly like you know what i mean and man think about if it is that what a what a risky game to play for the people who pretend to be so concerned about anti-Semitism you know what a risky game to play all right look we're gonna we're going to end the show there we'll see you guys tomorrow have a good one peace