Part Of The Problem - MSG and JRE

Episode Date: October 29, 2024

Dave Smith brings you the latest in politics! On this episode of Part Of The Problem, Dave is joined by co-host Robbie "The Fire" Bernstein to discuss Trump's rally at Madison Square Garden, MSNBC scrambling as the election gets closer, the best and worst moments from Donald Trump's appearance on JRE, and so much more.Part Of The Problem is available for early pre-release at https://partoftheproblem.com as well as an exclusive episode on Thursday!Support Our SponsorsGet ProtonVPN using Dave's exclusive offer! -http://protonvpn.com/davesmithKalshi - https://kalshi.com/daveFum - http://tryfum.com/problem & Use code PROBLEMZbiotics - https://zbiotics.com/potpGet your tickets to Porch Tour Herehttps://porchtour.comFind Run Your Mouth here:YouTube - http://youtube.com/@RunYourMouthiTunes - https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/run-your-mouth-podcast/id1211469807Spotify - https://open.spotify.com/show/4ka50RAKTxFTxbtyPP8AHmFollow the show on social media:X:http://x.com/ComicDaveSmithhttp://x.com/RobbieTheFireInstagram:http://instagram.com/theproblemdavesmithhttp://instagram.com/robbiethefire#libertarianSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Hello, hello, what's up everybody? Welcome live from New York City, a brand new episode of Part of the Problem. Me and of course Robbie the Fire Bernstein in our old studio. It's been, it's been quite a while since we've done a podcast episode in this room. I didn't realize we still worked here I didn't even realize it was ours to maybe do if we wanted to I Feel we've been in the studio a few times, but I feel like we've been in the other room We have this was of course our home for many years. It's kind of a throwback to be here where I Recorded Pierce Morgan's show today in person. so I appreciate you guys coming into the city.

Oh, I mean, it was all, listen man, I enjoyed doing that show, I think, but today was just, it was ridiculous. It was a lot of just me laughing at the absurdity of it. But anyway, I mean, it was a fun time, I guess. I'm glad I did it. Sarah Palin was on the panel with me. What?

That's kinda cool. It was very bizarre, and then she ended up, I don't know, it was strange. She's a rush expert, I don't know why she hasn't been around for the last three years. Yeah, well she's- Talk about things she actually got right. When we coulda used her, you know what I mean?

We coulda really gotten to the bottom of that whole thing, but Sarah Palin, but she's back now, kind of, at least on Piers Morgan. Anyway, how'd she look? Uh, she's She's older than she was last time. I saw her for sure But you know, aren't we all I'm sure I'm older than the last time she saw me But yeah, but I mean she thought she looked fine. She had like a tattoo on her hand I think she's I noticed it one. I think she's out divorce parting it up now I think she's doing a whole new thing. Oh interesting. I was like, are you tatted up like we're really Sarah Pellin anyway

It's this is it. We're a week out from the presidential election You know, it's more exciting than that. What's that? It's the next week Sunday 8 p.m. For free on YouTube You can watch my comedy special. That's the biggest that's the biggest. You don't even have to worry about the election at this point. That is very exciting news dude. We're all ready for that. It's gonna be great. I'm excited for a lot of people to see that. And A, you'll either be really happy or disappointed next week. And either way you need comedy in your life. There you go. 8 p.m. and also at the Shell this weekend up in New Hampshire you can go to my website for details. Back to you Dave. Hell yeah. And of course come see both of us on the road comic Dave Smith comm we still got a few more Kipsy and Philly Poughkeepsie and Philadelphia. Yeah, it's gonna be a lot of fun. It's gonna be a crazy

Little stretch of time here for the country Obviously, okay. We still have a week left, but what we could start talking about today, which I think is the topic everyone's kind of talking about. Is the October surprise is Trump's a Nazi? Well, that's what it turns out. I would have thought they'd have a better surprise on that. Well, I will say, so far, viewing kind of, if you look at, say, the last two weeks

of a presidential election, and we just got Trump's second to last week. And I mean, however you feel about Donald Trump politically, in terms of like his close of the campaign, it's been incredible. Now, he's politically speaking, done an excellent job. He tends to do this. He, Donald Trump, look, his real expertise is in putting on a show. He knows how to put on a show better than anybody else.

And he typically closes very strong. You know, he'll do a ton of rallies, he'll have big spectacles. And I think that's part of the reason why he always does better than he's polling. Like he did better than he was polling in 2016 on election night, same thing in 2020. And because the polls are closer this year than they were either of those years, that

is a very good sign for Donald Trump's chances of getting reelected. The two big things were obviously he did the Joe Rogan experience and then he had a big old Nazi rally at Madison Square Garden. And so while- A legendary venue known for that. Yeah. Well, and nothing else. Yes. Well, while Donald Trump. Right. Literally, it's a while Donald Trump is putting on what looks like substantially better than 2016 or 2020 in terms of like

just the way he's closing out the campaign, where you look at it and you go like, whoa, this is a this is a huge victory for Donald Trump. On the other side, it does seem like, I don't even know how to put, it seems like there was a meeting, like if there was a meeting with all the most powerful democratic donors and the people in the corporate media and they were like, all right guys, it's crunch time. Here's our ACE in the hole.

We're going to call them a Nazi. Has anybody tried this yet? Has this made its rounds? People are going to be so shocked by the accusation that they're going to be like, and it's wild to watch. We're like, that's really it. This is it. This is what you guys are going to do right now. This is your final pitch is just going to be like that he's a Nazi. The same thing you've been hysterically shrieking for eight years. And in terms of like, they seem to be grasping at straws more than ever before to even justify the claim. Now's the time for the pee tape, Puff Daddy tapes of him banging Putin. You gotta give me something.

Well, you'd think you'd have something, but it, this, I don't know, I mean, we got a few days to go here. I think even at this point, by the way, if there were to be, you know, they call it an October surprise and not a November surprise for a reason. Because if you were to- November nuke, maybe it'll be a new thing. Well, look, if you were to have some devastating thing

that you were gonna release on a candidate, the timing would be around last week or the week before. That's when you want to get it out. You would not want to put it out on November 2nd if the election is on November 5th because you want to make sure that everyone's heard this and not just heard it, but like it's been repeated over and over. Now you could argue that we have a shorter attention span than ever. Maybe you slow that down, but if you had something, my thought is you would have released it by now. I could be wrong about,

maybe something big will get released, but it seems less and less likely as time goes on. And it seems more like, oh no, this really is what they've got, is he's doing a rally in Madison Square Garden, and so are they in the 30s. Nazi. It seemed like he put on a hell of a show. It felt like I was watching Victory. That's what it felt like. Look, it's a weird thing, right? If you go by the polls, which are not always exactly right, but again, there's there's a pretty strong case that it's very close that either side could win

if you Extrapolate a little bit out of the polls like de facto like where Trump was in 2016 where he was in 2020 where he is now It looks more likely than not that Donald Trump will win But it that could not be the case. It's close enough that it's like, yeah, maybe six out of 10 times Donald Trump wins or something like that, maybe even a little less. I will say, and this is not scientific at all, I'm just saying, and I think almost everybody knows this,

if you just go by kind of the intangibles, you're like, what am I seeing? If I didn't have access to polls, if I didn't have that, and I just was going by like, what am I seeing on social media? What am I seeing if I didn't have access to polls if I didn't have that and I just was going By like what am I seeing on social media? What am I seeing at events? What am I seeing in the corporate media? What am I seeing it? You know Like all the signs on the ground all the people you talk to it. It feels like Donald Trump is in about to have a landslide victory the amount of energy that is in Trump supporters right now and the amount of energy

That's been drained out of of Democrats. I like it's it's hard I don't think I've ever seen anything like this in a presidential election. No, I shouldn't say that Obama in 2008 certainly had that Obama in 2008 had there was just this feeling like there is no Enthusiasm on your side and we have all the enthusiasm in the world on on our side That's how it feels right now I'm not saying that's like a compelling scientific argument

But the it is weird to feel that way and still see everything on paper saying. No, this is very close We'll see so Trump puts on by the way, you know what, let's just play before we even get into it. Let's play the one of the clips I sent you was the I can't remember which one it was the media freaking out about about the Trump rally. Yeah, here, let's just to get a little sense of like, so we're not overplaying their reaction here You have this MSNBC. But that jamboree happening right now, you see it there on your screen, in that place is particularly chilling.

Just as a heads up, you do have your email on your support screen. Because in 1939, more than 20,000 supporters of a different fascist leader, Adolf Hitler, packed the garden for a so-called pro-America rally. A rally where speakers voiced anti-Semitic rhetoric from a stage draped with Nazi banners. So you could just, if you could pause it right there.

I mean, the argument so far is that the Nazis also had a rally at Madison Square Garden. By the way, by the way, Donald Trump has been known to pay for things in cash. Do you know who else used cash? The American Nazi Party. All of their members used cash. This seems to be the first thing.

It's an event. They had an event at Madison Square Garden. So did Donald Trump. You want to learn about some other Nazis? Patrick Ewing. You ever heard about that guy? Constant events at Madison Square Garden. Disney on Ice.

Disney on Ice. Bunch of Nazis. I mean, it's just like, they don't even attempt to make an argument. It's just like, yeah, you know, they're having a rally, a big rally at Madison Square. Politicians do rallies at arenas all the time. The idea of trying to spin selling out the garden

as some type of Nazi indication, And here, let's keep playing. The press reported, quote, Instantly, a dozen or more storm troopers set upon him, knocking him down and beating him as he held his head in his arms. Most of his clothing was torn from his body. Later, he was booked for disorderly conduct. Now, against that backdrop of history, Donald Trump, the man who has threatened

to use the military against opponents he calls enemies from within, who has threatened to use not a multi-prime phone sketch to quell what he says are lawless cities and to use those troops to carry out mass deportations of immigrants is once again turning to mass deportation. So let's pause it here. So that's the connection. carry out mass deportations of immigrants is once again. All right. So let's pause it here. So that's the connection. So a Jewish guy rushed the stage and got beat up and was later charged with rushing the

stage, which by the way, I mean, I understand it's a, it's a Nazi rally and like there's high emotions, you know, we were talking about the American Nazi party rally in the thirties and like, I get that. And I get if you even go like, if that's over your line of like, once you openly say you're a Nazi, I think you deserve to be like physically assaulted or something like that, which I think is a dangerous game to start playing. But like, first of all, just on the actual Nazi rally in the thirties, you either have an event or you don't like, like you either get a permit or rent out a venue

and are able to have that event or you don't or you're not allowed to have it. But if we're gonna say, hey, well, it's a free society and so even though we disagree with your views, you're allowed to rent this out and have it or whatever, fine. You're not allowed to rush the stage. Like once an event is a sanctioned legal event,

somebody's not allowed to just rush in the middle. So even when they go like, and you know who ended up getting booked? The Jewish guy. He ended up getting, it's like, well listen dude, all I'm saying is at any concert, at any sporting event, at any anything, if you rush the stage, you're probably going to get assaulted

and you're gonna be the one who gets charged after it. Like that's, it doesn't matter, I I can't like if I rush the stadium at I rush a football Field and then I get beat up a bunch and then I'm like they're like when the cops come I go no I'd like to press charges against all of the people who are manhandling me down there The cops are gonna laugh in my face take me to jail So I'm just saying as fucked up as that does sound by the way That's the story they're telling and the connection here is Rob you see

Well a mob of people people beat up this Jewish guy who rushed the stage in the 30s and Donald Trump has said he's gonna use the military to crack down on riots and to do mass Deportations by the way Rob as you can tell the outrage from MSNBC Is that the only proper role of the military is slaughtering brown babies in third world countries for bullshit reasons. They're supposed to be doing their job and killing Muslims based off lies, but instead Donald Trump wants to have them do something here. That's the connection.

So really it's just like the Nazis. You get it. Yeah. And I mean, also if you're one lone Jew What are you doing rushing a stage? You need multiple people to at least have an impact probably not the best best idea and these are Nazis They don't care for you. This is total ADD, but the greatest clothesline I ever saw in my life was I was once at a Yankee rain delay game and Every once while people get bored and they would slip and slide on the thing and security would go get them

And there's one guy and it'd be fun. Like you would just be sitting there rooting for the one guy It was like a great cat-and-mouse game and one guy took and he started running and he dodged like three security guards and the guy Just clothes line them like WWF just knocked the guy clean out It's rare to pull off a real clothes. It was full scale. The guy was turned around a security guard turn I didn't see it. It's a boom. They a real clothesline. It was full scale. The guy was turning around and the security guard turned around like that. Oh, he didn't see it. It's a boom. They say it's always the clothesline you don't see coming

is the one that really gets you. Well. Point just being, if you rush a stage, you might, you're gonna get manhandled. Yeah, those weren't even Nazis when that guy got manhandled. Or maybe they were not, we don't know for sure. Anyway, regardless of, however,

look, all right, let's finish this thing and then I'll make my point. But I think this is, we pretty much got the gist of it. That was the end of it. Oh, that was it, okay. So, however you feel, even if you agree with the message and you think this was a Nazi style, which look, I think is pretty goddamn ridiculous, but how does anyone, like how do you look at this?

I almost see this as them conceding the election like it only you know that no nobody Who it nobody who is going to be moved by the type of rhetoric of just like screaming Nazi? Incoherently with no argument attached to it Those people are already in your camp Nobody on the Trump side or that's up for grabs at this point is gonna be moved by you hysterically shouting Nazi and I'm sorry, but just objectively speaking

Because it's so it's so weird how much Everything in the corporate media, everything they rely on is fake. The whole thing is fake. Like it's like, it's just this, oh, even just watching this clip, like you are existing in a world that has nothing to do with reality where there's anything, even if there are a million things you could say about Trump's 2024 campaign or say about his four year track record or

say about the what you think the next four years are going to be like. The idea that this is the American Nazi party taking over is just not in the realm of reality. It's all fake in the same way that the fucking Tony Hinchcliffe, the outrage about his, this is all fake. No vote has been flipped over Tony's jokes. There is not one Puerto Rican in the United States of America who was about to vote for Donald Trump heard Tony Hinchcliffe's Puerto Rico joke and went, that's it. I took off his MAGA shirt and there was like a Kamala Harris shirt underneath it. That has not happened. The whole thing is fake.

That's not the way garbage people in the ocean make their decisions. No, they got things to worry about. Like what garbage floats and what doesn't, okay? And they've figured it out pretty, Tupperware, you turn it upside down. Anyway, it's just none of this is real. They're reporting on it all day long. Like this is all fake.

This is not a real story. And the bottom line is, is that in this thing called reality that the corporate media seems to have no interest in engaging with, but in reality, the singular reality, Donald Trump went into the bluest of blue cities, sold out Madison Square Garden, had like a star-studded, like amazing event with a great crowd that was like super thrilled to be there, drew minimal protests. I heard Pierce Morgan told me today that the secret, that he was talking to the secret service guys, he was at the event and they said there were about a hundred, I think he said a hundred, maybe a hundred fifty people protesting.

The idea that Donald Trump could come in and do a big event like that In 2016 and not draw a big protest would have been you you know what I mean? Like there's like everything about this optically was just excellent for him. There's no debate about it Right, how can you even look at it a different way? This is a win politically for Trump. And, and, and it's amazing how much it also helps him, it makes it almost double the win for him that his political enemies in the corporate media are just losing their fucking minds over it.

Yeah, they can't cover it. They can't tell you what was said. They can't, they can't give you the coverage of what was at the event. They can't say, oh, wow, look, there actually is a lot of enthusiasm. I think Kamala Harris really might have to come out and contend with some of these issues. They can't do anything in the reality of real journalism, because if they did, then you might go, oh, I guess it's not just Nazis and racists that like this guy. Well, exactly, dude. And to think that, OK, in the in the moment right after Biden,

the few weeks after Joe Biden dropped out and Kamala Harris first got in the race, and I think there was a very real, like, exhale from Democratic voters, you know, who were just like, oh my, you know, like, especially when you've demonized Donald Trump so much, and then this is your guy, and you see your guy have a horrible debate performance and look like a dementia patient, and know there's something very anxiety provoking about

that and then when he's out of the way and it's someone who doesn't have those issues it's like sigh of relief and it but in this moment the corporate media non-stop told you she is she is the embodiment of joy and hope people love her they're so excited like they just reported on this this illusion which we all called out at the time because their whole world is fake of like like an illusion of a Phenomenon where she was this candidate yet You're watching it however you feel about the candidates You're watching right in front of you the proof that Trump really is creating some type of moment like that whether it's enough to win

Or not we will find out or maybe not. But like, and right, and as they cover it, all they can say is like, the Nazis had a rally in the thirties. Like, I don't know, man. Donald Trump seems like a party to me. That seems like what he's having there is like a big goddamn party. And it doesn't seem like the problem is that he's a Nazi Seems like the problem is that He's too cartoonishly pro-israel. I don't know but It's wild to see. Alright guys, let's take a moment and thank our sponsor for today's show, which is proton D-google your life and put your privacy first withon so you can feel safe when you write emails, stream content, save passwords, and upload photos because what you do online is designed for your eyes only.

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Alright, let's get back into the show. I mean, it's incredible for them with a straight face to try and sell, hey, 86 years ago, this is the exact venue that the Nazis played at, and then wipe out what the entire history of the garden, like there's some sort of a real affiliation. We're supposed to pretend that there's not, there haven't been any events at the, at Madison Square Garden since then.

Like it's, it's, that's why I made the joke about cash. Like it is almost like saying like, what? The thing all of us have, it's dubbed the world's most famous arena. I mean, it's, the whole thing is nutty. And yeah, look, I mean, people are saying, and I saw even some people who were like, oh, like it was a bad idea for the campaign

to have Tony Hinchcliffe go up and do his thing. And I understand where people are coming from. And look, this is a decision that's, was it a smart idea of the campaign to have Tony go do that at their thing? I understand where you could argue and people argue, oh, you're giving them an easy talking point or something like that. But listen, this whole thing is fake. They're calling you Hitler just for having an event in Madison Square Garden.

It's like, I actually do kind of think it's, I think it's a smart game that Trump's playing where he's going like, how about we at least just, how about we just brush it off? We don't care about these accusations at all. And we'll just be the side that's having fun. I think there's a really wise strategy in that in life in general. Like it's like if you're ever in life, if you're ever like. And by the way, I say that's something kind of personal in a way to us because we do this show where we're constantly talking about like things that are really horrible that are happening. But at the same time, when we go around, when we do our live event, what we're, what we're like pitching people on is like,

hey, come have a great night. Come have a night of just laughing and enjoying yourself. Cause like you, you just never in, in life in general, if you're ever asking other people to come be angry with you, and that's your pitch is like, come over here and be angry with me. Don't be surprised if that doesn't sell very well, because most people do not want to say yes to an invitation to come just be angry.

And as much as the corporate media is trying to spin this as a hate rally, like that's the idea, like that he's telling you to come here. You guys are the ones engaged in the hate rally. You're the ones saying everybody come over here and be furious about the Nazi takeover of America all day long Whereas what Trump is doing is saying hey you want to come to this awesome party? It's gonna be the best You're gonna have the best night. This is gonna be so entertaining and like there's it's amazing that they haven't figured this out yet

And all these years there's something funny about uh, we're the party of joy now quit having your fun How dare you have fun? That's it. And what do you want Beyonce coming up and not singing? Yeah, don't you you bring the best roast guy in the world? He tells some of the best roast jokes Yeah, all politically themed probably just written for that event So great bangers and isn't it funny how they're picking out the Puerto Rican one, too It's such a benign one. I would think they'd be more upset with some of the sexual content. Well, it's so funny, dude. But it's almost like they went on,

it was like they were like, well, there's some Puerto Ricans in Pennsylvania and in Wisconsin. And so we gotta fucking let's go after that. But the shit, he gave it to Muslims and Jews and Puerto. He did what Tony Hinchcliffe does. He gave it to everyone. And we want to get those Puerto Ricans back to Puerto Rico anyways.

Yeah, listen. Let them know they're not welcome. It's not crazy. And also, we got to get those Puerto Ricans back to Puerto Rico anyways? Yeah, listen, they're not welcome No, it's not crazy. And also we got to start moving the Overton window in the direction of you're not really one of us But I thought when he told that it didn't even get but right off the fat when he goes Like all my Latinos Aladdin, but can I get a clap and they all applaud and he goes you see how many of them suck in? Or whatever. I thought that was so great You know, no, I thought he did great. I thought he did what he does and he was great at it.

And I thought it was cool that it's like, from the perspective of just Tony, it's like, yeah, like that's who he is and that's what you're gonna get no matter what environment you put him in. There was a, I was particularly, I thought Tucker Carlson gave a great speech and there was something I wanted to play a part of this

because it really, this kind of stuck out to me and I did think that there was something about this that Tucker was touching on something like a very important dynamic. In many ways I thought it was part, kind of almost like the best argument for Trump. I thought it was part kind of almost like the best argument for Trump. And in a way, you know,

I think Tucker is kind of the, like, the he's the thought leader intellectually of the, the MAGA movement right now. You know, Trump is obviously like the guy. He is the figurehead. Tucker is probably like the second, you know most Popular guy and amongst that crowd, but he's the guy who's you know Read books about stuff and actually knows what he's talking about and can actually speak in depth on like multiple different issues and you know and There was something anyway, I want to I want to play this clip and then kind of like talk about it for a minute but I thought there was something very interesting in what he said that resonated with me for

sure so here is Tucker Carlson at MSG. Has empowered the rest of us through mostly just sticking around in the face of their hate and abuse and persecution he has given the rest of us the right to call BS on the charade no you, you are not better than us. No, you are not smarter than us. No, you do not deserve what you have. You probably stole it. No, you're not going to bully me into silence anymore.

And I can promise you at this point, nine days out, when Robert F. Kennedy Jr. and Elon Musk and Tulsi Gabbard and pretty much every high school senior and college Shorty girl in the country has come out finally say yeah, I am for Donald Trump actually When the entire country is realized there is nothing embarrassing about this What's embarrassing is to take a perfectly great country and destroy it as they have? I'm not ashamed you should be. At that moment, it's gonna be pretty tough for them 10 days from now to look in the eye to America

with a straight face. It's gonna be pretty hard to look at us and say, you know what, Kamala Harris, she's just, she got 85 million votes because she's just so impressive. As the first Samoan Malaysian low IQ former California prosecutor ever to be elected president it was just a groundswell of popular support. And anyone who thinks otherwise is just a freak or a criminal at this stage of the game after nine years of listening to their

lies and finding every single one of them totally false. No it's not safe and effective and no she's not impressive. It's very hard for me to believe the rest of us are going to say you know what Joe Scarborough you're right. You're right. She won fair and square because she's just so impressive. I don't think so. And to me, that is liberation. It's the freedom to say what's obviously true as a free man and not a slave. Well, okay. So I love that. And I do think that, first of all, there's a lot to break down there, but I do think there really is something And I think it's something that that oftentimes libertarians kind of miss out on like there's there's

There are policy questions and then there are things that are more like kind of deep cultural bordering on spiritual questions and Like I do think there's something that's happening in the air right now where it is you do see like celebrities lining up behind Trump in a way that you didn't in his previous campaigns. You do see people who are now taking this opinion that the and listen I know there's a million libertarians out there. I know there's some libertarians who aren't happy with me

over some of the things I've been saying about considering voting for Donald Trump. And I get, a lot of them will just say things back to me that I've said a million times, like Trump was terrible on this. How could you vote for the guy who supported this? And look, I'm not saying there's no point to that. There is a major point.

There's like, he was terrible on all those issues. I do not have high hopes for a Donald Trump second term. I don't think Donald Trump's gonna get in there and like hack up the warfare state or cut government spending and I bet that even after all of this he still appoints terrible people and he still you know, but there's something and it's just as important as tax policy or gun policy or the boom bust theory of like economic, you know, cycles where it's like, look, the entire apparatus, the entire power structure, the political class, the corporate media, Hollywood, like the big tech companies

that were fucking forced to do it by the government and all of the big finance, all of the big tech companies that were fucking forced to do it by the government and All of the big finance all of the big money they've all gone in behind in saying like supporting this guy is an unacceptable opinion and For the and you see a lot of Americans almost shaking it off and as Tucker's saying going well That's what I fucking stand for and you know what fuck you cuz you're nobody to tell me What's an allowable opinion and what's not like that is it? I have the freedom to think outside of the fake world that you have constructed for me Which by the way, I know is all bullshit and I know that you constructed it for your own advantage against mine Like even the line that Tucker said there about like just like assuming like you didn't earn that you probably stole it. That,

that is true for like everyone in the, like, if you're talking about like the suburbs of Washington DC or of New York city, where all these people were talking about live, all of them just got it from these like crony, the wall street casino or the government spending parasite class, you know, and like there is something about like, no, we don't look up at you like, you know, better than us. We, we look at you like you're the enemy of the American people. And you did something that's as he points out here, something that's actually outrageous and offensive. Forget Tony Hinchcliffe's joke. You fucking ruined the United States of America. You inherited, and he's talking to the entire like power structure in DC, you inherited the United States of America and presided over its bankruptcy. And not just fiscally, like culturally and

spiritually and morally, like in every sense. You guys took the greatest goddamn country in the history of the world and made it the most war-hungry Fucking like evil country in the world like what? That's actually offensive. That's outrageous and like fuck you. So that's like the first part of what he's saying and there is something there I'm not saying you have to vote for him and I understand the good reasons not to All I'm really saying is to like the critics of Donald Trump and libertarians or others who are like, nope, he was too bad on this issue. He was too bad on this issue. Fine. If that's how you feel, fine. But if you miss

the point that I'm making, I think you're missing that at your own peril. Like you're missing something big that's going on. I think it is very good for us to have that dynamic that Tucker's talking about. A bunch of people saying that like, no, no, no, actually CNN and the big banks and the weapons companies are not going to dictate to me what my opinion on the world is. All right guys, let's take a moment and thank our sponsor for today's show. Longtime sponsor who we absolutely love, which is fume. You know, people pick up a lot of habits many times to cope with stress.

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Great. Yeah, it's such a great way of put it of just that we are rejecting that you guys get to create the status norms. Same as you told us, we were all crazy if we didn't want to get the vaccine. And then it turned out the compliance rates weren't that high and he kept selling it. The only people that aren't getting these are these conspiracy anti-vaccine nuts. And he's 100% right that if they manage to get all the corpses to come out and show up for Kamala Harris and we have the even larger election numbers in the last one, I think everyone's going to be going, hey, who really even showed up for this lady? Well, there's, okay, so now getting to that part of what Tucker's saying here, because this is, like, this is, it's a message that he's sending. And also, by the way, I mean, it's, I also just,

it's such a boss move that, like, just Tucker is the one who gets, I mean, this was aired on Fox News. Like, this was aired on the network that fired him. You know what I mean? And he gets to send this, but look, I mean, this was aired on Fox News. Like this was aired on the network that fired him. You know what I mean? And he gets to send this, but look, here's, there will be, there are people, many, many of them, right? The respectable people, the people in the corporate media who will say that, okay, here's what Tucker Carlson

is doing right here, okay? You see, this is, they're setting up the next January 6th. They're setting up the next election denial. See, he's saying if Kamala Harris does end up with this huge vote total, we won't believe you or whatever. What's actually happening in reality is that it's almost the inverse of that.

What Tucker is saying here is that if you motherfuckers try to steal this We're all going to know that you stole it And that's what he's he's getting ahead of he's he's going look We can all look around and feel this and if you're gonna sit here and say that kamala Harris broke the record of more votes than anyone else got which is what you're gonna need to say in order to Steal this thing on her behalf. None of us are gonna believe you. And it's a very interesting game to be playing. And I would just say that, you know,

Tucker is a guy who had deep, deep connections into the swamp. I mean, this was a guy who lived in Washington, DC and was at the top of the corporate media game for decades. And I'm just saying he knows a lot of people and he knows a lot about how the fucking thing actually works in a way that none of us do. You know what I mean? Like none of us, you know, I could, I could sit here and tell you, you know, what Victoria Newland was doing in 2014 and the move she was making,

but like I haven't had dinner with her You know when you talk to Tucker Tucker will tell you a story about how their breath stinks or something you know like he like knows them and And this is his take is that like it needs they need to know right now that they're not gonna get away with stealing this Which is kind of interesting on its own, you know. That's a great moment and overall the spectacle of that rally and the roster of people that he brought out to support him. The fact that he's got Kennedy on the team now and what's her name from Hawaii? So bad with names. Tulsi Gabbard. Tulsi Gabbard. It was a very impressive affair. Yeah, I mean, I think it's really hard to look at it

in any other way if you're being objective at all. And it does just seem that the hysteria, and I mean, there were, by the way, the clip we showed you, there were lots of clips, it's just, it's been days at this point and stuff gets out of the cycle you know the cycle, but the People in the corporate media Mika Brzezinski said that he's killing us just all of these meltdowns and it's like I don't know how just to it's almost like if you were a

If you know they're in a 12 round fight You know and you're going into the last round or something like that. And one boxer is, you know, like cheering with his hands up. And the other guy has his hands on his knees and is just breathing heavy. And you're just like, okay, this looks like obviously everything is in this guy's favor to see Trump's opponents freaking out and quite literally melting down. Like, I don't know how else to say it. And then to watch Trump doing what he's doing. It's hard to not look at that and go, I mean, if you're a Trump guy, you couldn't hope for a better close.

The other thing that I was taken away as being somewhat promising, and after I was traveling all day yesterday and I watched all of Donald Trump on Rogan. Well, that's what we're gonna talk about next. At some point, Donald Trump's creating so much television that you're like, I can't watch all of this. But the fact that he's prominently displaying

both Vivek and RFK Jr. suggests to me that they will actually have cabinet positions. And also, I mean, this will be Donald Trump's last run, if he's there, these four years. So I think on some of the things that we need to solve as a country, I don't know that he's going to have a strong incentive to not actually do that. I think Vivek wants to stick around. I think him and JD Vance are probably front runners for running the next

time. I think whatever cabinet position he's, I think these guys are going to actually try and solve some stuff, which is, I mean, of the presidential runs that I've seen it you know people's core things are usually More am gonna give free health care. I'm gonna get your college paid for or I'm gonna build a wall And they don't get that done, but it's very rarely. Hey, we're actually gonna try and roll back some government here Hey, we're gonna try and look into this health problem and roll back The relationship FDA has with these drug companies very rarely do you you see that. And I think all those people wanna stick around. And I don't think there's any reason for, I don't think Donald Trump has a financial incentive

in those industries that he's gonna look to not allow them to crusade on that. So it might be interesting. No, I agree. I mean, look, they're still up against it because it's not just the fact that it's it's your they're going to have to deal with like let's say you you appoint Bobby Kennedy to some important position and like overseeing you know some oversight position of like overseeing pharmaceutical

companies or something like that okay he's still going to have to deal with all of the fucking all the other people in the cabinet who may, you know, be deeply in bed with some of these entrenched interests. He's gonna have to deal with the Congress. He's gonna have to deal with just the amount of power that there is there, right? So it's still like a long shot. But with Donald Trump, for all the bad things

you could say about him, and there are plenty, to have guys like Bobby Kennedy, like in his very close circle to have Bobby Kennedy and, and Vivek Ramaswamy and Tucker Carlson and Tulsi Gabbard and these people, it does at least feel like there's a chance there, at least someone might be attempting to do the right thing. Whereas, uh, there's just never, there's just nothing like that on the other side,

and there hasn't really been. Now again, that's still, I still am sure like, Donald Trump might have a few more good appointments. I do agree with what you're saying. The fact that Vivek and Tulsi and RFK are so involved with him and are in so many events with him, does seem to indicate that maybe he would actually keep them around.

There's also been, he's also floated at some pretty bad people for like defense secretary, and so I'm not, you know, we'll see what happens. And I guess it is politics, and we've seen Donald Trump just dump people, such as Steve Bannon, or when he played Romney real good, and he offered him the cabinet position. Oh yeah, no, he might.

And pitched him out. Yeah, he might, you know, that's also possible. But regardless, there's something there. At least there's something. Unfortunately, that's what we've got to work with. Look, let's talk a bit about the Rogan podcast. I guess I just start, just politically speaking, I thought it was like a huge win for Trump.

I mean, just enormous. He got done everything he was supposed to get done. He was himself. He wasn't being phony and he didn't get busted or exposed in any moments like that. He seemed, he was charming and he seemed to win Joe Rogan over on the podcast. And they got into some interesting topics that like aren't typically covered. Um, it was, I thought he, he was a bit evasive at times, if you want to say that,

but in a, in a very Trumpian way where where it almost seems very real and very stream of conscious, he just gets distracted by, and did I mention it was the biggest building? And oh, big buildings. And then- That's so long, you've never seen a bed this big. Yeah, yeah. He's a tall guy.

He's a tall guy, and you kept looking at it, and yeah, it was like weird, right, things like that where he got off on like tangents, and Joe was trying to bring him back, but just politically speaking, you don't go, yeah dude, I mean, listen, if Kamala Harris went and pulled that off on the Joe Rogan experience, you'd be like, well, she'd win the election.

I mean, so it's like, politically speaking, it was a win for Trump. I don't really see any other way to look at it. I thought it was risky for Donald Trump to go there, particularly because he appears to me to be winning. And I thought he did a great job. Firstly, he had some great lines. He just had some really funny moments where he said they would never try and kill Joe

Biden because he's too inconsequential. That was great. He had some bangers. I thought his best kind of theme throughout the episode was his general pitch of, hey, I come into these situations with common sense. I thought his ISIS story was great, where he's like, man, you know, I'm getting bad information from these generals. I flew over there.

I met with the better people and we got it done in three weeks. I don't know if that's true, but it's a great story. Or the California water story. I have no idea if it's true also, but it's a good example of, hey, there's some common sense solutions here. You guys could have plenty of water in California and you guys are dumping it in the ocean and then to speak to his credit even on you know the whole thing that was going on with the election claims

where he was claiming he won the election. He weaseled his way right out of that conversation Yeah, and he stuck to his story and I felt like he did a very good job of moving things along and getting out of any tough spots. So I thought, sat there for three hours and he gave a good pitch. The fact that he did the full three hours was huge. It wouldn't have been the same if he didn't. It would have been like, oh, you didn't really do

the Joe Rogan experience. You just went and talked to Joe Rogan for 45 minutes. It doesn't really count, but he did the full three hours. I do agree with you. I thought that was, that was probably one of his, his worst moments. Well, it would just say, cause, cause it's, it's always a little bit different when he battles someone in the corporate

media, cause they're so adversarial to him that when he sticks his ground in battles, it's kind of like, well, whatever, they were just trying to get him. But when Rogan's just asking in good faith and just being like, Hey, so what, like, why do you believe that? And he's got nothing. I think it doesn't look good. There were a few moments that bugged me. Um, there, there were things, you know, okay, so the two things, I think I mentioned these both to you, but they still were just the two moments to me that was like having like,

you know, frustrated. Um, but number one, Donald Trump, he gets on there and he he's giving so that he had mentioned this at a speech and there were a couple articles written About it, but this pitch which is like the greatest goddamn pitch that a president could ever have that We're gonna get rid of income taxes and like this is amazing You're like holy shit like even if this never happens and obviously this is very far-fetched for you know being implemented anytime soon But the fact that like a presidential candidate the most popular, you know guy in right-wing America and you know This guy who's very likely going to be the next president and has tens of millions of people who support him is out there saying Like hey, but think about it like this you'd just be better off if we didn't have the income tax at all

That's like I am NOT downplaying how powerful that is and so he's got this moment now where Rogan's like, okay So tell me about that. He just throws it to him like tell me about and immediately Instead so he's basically like we could just have tariffs and raise the money that way We don't need to have an income tax and when he's asked to like explain that instead of going to the obvious like we just go like hey like Every person who has a job who's listening to this right now, can you just think about how awesome it would be if you didn't have to pay income tax anymore? Like you would be rich. I am going to give you a huge raise, a bigger raise than you've ever gotten at your job. It's just abolishing taxes. You don't have to pay taxes anymore. Think about just unleashing the ingenuity of America.

Like finally, like unshackling this, this like, you know, powerful machine that will be allowed to like derive. We're going to be the biggest economy in the history of the world. You know, you could, you could attack it from like being like, listen, are we, are we slaves or are we free men here? You don't owe, you don't have to incriminate yourself to the government every goddamn year because you've committed the crime of being a productive member of society.

Who the hell are you? Have you read the bill of rights? You have a right to privacy. You have a right to not incriminate yourself and you own your body, you own your work. You know, you know, like there's so much, but instead he just pivots right into how great tariffs are How great tariffs tariffs are just so wonderful

Let me tell you about all the great presidents who had tariffs and tariffs tariffs tariffs And it was almost like repealing the income tax became like a footnote in his plan to repeal the income tax So I thought that was like awful and a huge missed opportunity for him And the other one was like when he was about to have what I thought was going to be the best moment of the whole podcast. It was when he started talking about his terrible appointments and how he didn't really know anyone in DC. But then he can't even, he can't do that. So he has to immediately pivot to how it was actually really great to have John Bolton working for him. Oh yeah, you got this crazy, you know, war loving guy right next to you and then people want to deal with you except That's not how it happened

John Bolton blew the North Korea deal He was on the verge of getting this like historic amazing deal where we maybe could have moved toward Taking one of the nuclear threats off the table and maybe even freeing the 60-plus million prisoners that the guys got in his country Are moving toward that but no your dumb war hawk national security advisor ruin those negotiations So like what the fuck dude? No don't sit here and defend to me It was a brilliant policy to have John Bolton in the room. No it fucking wasn't like what do you mean? And by the way Donald Trump you're a radical enough that everyone's scared Nobody's like nobody's like Trump would never have the balls to drop a bomb on me like you got that covered dude

You know so anyway, I hated that that was like my you know personal great, but that I just didn't I was very unsatisfied with his answers on those topics, but There's a lot more to it than that alright guys. Let's take a moment and thank our sponsor for today's show which is Cal She do you think you know who's gonna win the presidential election or how many seats the Democrats or Republicans? Will win in the house or the Senate well There's finally a legal way to bet on the outcome of these elections and that is the platform known as cal she Cal she is the first legal exchange where you can trade or bet on any event including but not limited to elections Cal she went to court and won legal approval for election betting

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Overall, I thought it was a good appearance on those two particular topics. And let's start with the tariffs. If you're economically illiterate, it's as sexy of a story as the modern monetary theory of, hey, we can take on as much debt as we need and everything could be free. If you don't know, if you don't understand tariffs, the idea of, hey, you don't have to pay taxes because we're going to tax China with a tariff and they're going to cover it for you. They're going to pay your taxes for you. It sounds sexy. You just got to dig in a little bit and they're going to cover it for you. They're going to pay your taxes for you. It sounds sexy.

You just got to dig in a little bit and go, well, doesn't that become a consumer tax when everything I need to go purchase is more expensive because there's a tariff on it? And now maybe you prefer a taxation system where there's a heavy consumer tax instead of an income tax. There's an argument for it. But the idea that your life is just made much better by a tariff,

it just takes, well, what's the next step in the process? Yeah. On the appointment issue, because I think that's probably his biggest blunder, where almost he needs to own it a little bit more. And I think you had said this to me when we were talking about it.

The last time I was the outsider and I didn't have the best staffing positions, they really undermined what I was looking to do. But luckily now I have the experience of having done it for four years. And all things said, I still did the best staffing positions, they really undermined what I was looking to do, but luckily now I have the experience of having done it for four years, and all things said, I still did the best job anyone's ever did, you could still throw your bravado in there and go, I know how to staff at this time,

we're ready to go, I'm gonna have my people in there, and maybe you could even just start, like I'm putting RFK in on the health thing, you could start teasing your appointments. All things considered for how many deep state people he ended up in there that were undermining him for that 20 minutes of that conversation. He took it great.

It was graceful enough that I didn't watch it the way I'll watch Kamala Harris or other people and go, wow, you're ruining this. No, no, no. I agree with you. Look, I will say, and I can't not bring this up, which is one of the major things that I was thinking about the whole time. And I will fully admit that there is, there's something self-serving

about the way I'm looking at it. There's a conflict of interest, I guess, for me to be completely neutral here. But there is, look, first of all, the podcast is doing phenomenally well. I don't know how many, you know, there's, so when Kamala Harris went on that Call Her Daddy podcast, now I did not know what that podcast was,

but both of you two, when you were telling me what it was, and then everybody who I talked to that week, what they all told me the same was like, no, this is the Joe Rogan for women, and that she rivals Rogan for being as big as him and that they were like she was number one at one point on Spotify and then he was and that they were like competing the Kamala Harris episode of Call Her Daddy I think last I checked was sitting at like 700,000 views. Donald Trump and Rogan are I believe around 30 something million right now a couple days after it's been up just on youtube and

Rogan's Spotify is like where his audience is I mean, I don't know, you know, I I don't know exactly right now now that he went back to being on both You know what I mean, but I there's millions listening on Spotify like whatever the number is is substantial and So you see you see this kind of happen right like this huge moment and if Donald Trump wins here The as much as it seems like the value of Joe Rogan's show couldn't go any higher It really just took a whole nother leap Like this was the thing both candidates in the last in the fourth quarter we're like

I think we got to do we we gotta pull out the big gun and the big gun is sitting down with Joe Rogan. And by the way, one of her people confirmed recently that they had agreed to do it and then pulled out and he said it was like for scheduling conflicts or something like that. But the thing about it is, is you look at the numbers Donald Trump's doing and like, I'm sorry, man. When you're talking about doing a show that is when it's all Done. I mean this thing is gonna crack a hundred million people listen to three hours Are you think that is when you're running for president if there's something with a hundred million people listening to you for three hours There is no scheduling conflict. There is there is no such thing because you would move anything around to

Make that happen. So anyway, just my point is that this does like, again, this is on kind of on the same theme where they're like, look, there are the tangible things like policies and appointments and those really matter. But there's also kind of like these intangible things that matter a lot too. And this is like the corporate media has been just getting death blow after death blow after death blow over the last few years but this is like while they're down a

Huge blow to them a huge blow that Rogan is the guy. This is the show. This is the big guy No one was thinking like hey, man. This is the last week We got to do a CNN town hall that is that that was not gonna move the needle and it's laughable to even town hall. That is that that was not going to move the needle and it's laughable to even suggest that it would, but doing Rogan might just is like a huge fucking thing. And listen, I will say as I prefaced by like, obviously I'm, you know, I have a little bit of a self interest in this too. So I'm, I'm trying my best to, you know, admit that and take that into account.

But it's like, obviously to make Rogan's show that much more valuable and also just because, you know, look, this whole world of like alternative, whatever the hell we're in, you know, guys who are talking about politics who aren't a part of the corporate machine, um, to, to like embolden them and even further diminish the corporate media, I think is like an enormous victory. It's like an enormous victory. It's like if you could just do one thing, you know, if, if like the one thing you could do was to like get Ron Paul to be the fed chairman or something like that, or the one thing you could do is like discredit the entire corporate media.

It's not so obvious which one is the right thing to do. That's my own. If the corporate media had the monopoly on the control of information that they had in 1992, and you put Ron Paul as the head of the fed chair, uh, as the fed chair, corporate media is probably just going to ruin Ron Paul. You know what I mean? They will convince all of your parents and grandparents that he is some horrible, corporate media is probably just going to ruin Ron Paul. You know what I mean? They will convince all of your parents and grandparents that he is some horrible, awful guy and he's going to have to step down over some scandal in a

few. You know what I mean? Like it, like I'm not sick. Don't get me wrong. It'd be really amazing to get Ron Paul as the fed chairman. I'm not saying that wouldn't be important. In fact, probably that's the one to pick out of the two. I don't know, but I'm just saying like discrediting the corporate media is right up there. It's huge. This is their mechanism of controlling the conversation. And like, what a blow.

What a blow to them that this is done completely outside of their control. The guy who they said ought to be canceled and the guy who they said ought to be locked up and pitched, never run again, all of this. They sit down without any of you and control the conversation. It's amazing.

I think it's a game changer in that it feels like the wheel has just turned for alternative media. And where I think that this is the death blow is that their entire world revolves around access and kind of the credibility of, oh, we're the people with the access and we're doing the real work.

It's so interesting to me as a person who was not a good student, could have never landed a job at any network ever, could have never had, and it's not an intelligence thing, I'm just telling you, based off of applications, whatever, I never got a production job, I probably never could have gotten a staff writing job, like there's nothing.

And that whole universe is just gone. Yeah. And how much worse is it going to be for that entire universe is there's not just more viewers being pulled into the alternative media, but that's actually where the news is because that's where the president is. And that's where he's making his biggest pitch. And in the next election cycle, I can tell you every single person running is going to be trying to get on Rogan. And if they can't get on Rogan, they're going to be trying to get on every one of the other programs. So I think it was just then that also changes it,

because then the actual news is being made on the alternative media programs. It's not even like I got to tune into Fox News because it's like, oh, all of these people are here. So I have to hear what they said. Then I can talk about it over here. They might actually be here. Yeah, that changes the game. Oh, yeah. And look, you got to you're 100're 100% right and you gotta kind of zoom out to appreciate it

But to just zoom out and go look It has been such a short period of time That we've had this at all like social media is not very old Podcasts are not very old. These are all things that I've been doing stand-up comedy since before they were things. I mean they existed but like they were so fringe and you know like most comedians didn't have social media when I first started stand-up comedy. It was kind of viewed as like a thing like I don't know that's something college kids do. It's not like we're professional comedians. We don't do that. And then there were a few people who were like big on MySpace and then like the younger guys would be like,

you should get on MySpace, cause like that's how you connect with fans and stuff. But the idea that there were shows like this that were so much bigger than the corporate media, it existed to some degree in the 2020 election, to a much smaller degree in the 2016 election, barely existed in the 2012 election. Like these are all pretty new.

And what Trump has done, obviously Bobby Kennedy did a lot of it and Vake Ramaswamy did a lot of it when he was running for president, but it's a little bit different coming from Donald Trump, the guy who looks like he's about to be president again. But he basically leveraged a podcast tour as his campaign. I mean, it's not like he did some of the traditional media too, but everyone kind of already knows what it looks like when he does CNN or does one of these debates. And this was how he showcased a completely different side of himself. He went into these long form conversations, at this point, many podcasts.

I mean, it's not just that he did Rogan. This was clearly, you know Rogan is the biggest one and obviously this made the biggest splash but he did Andrew Schultz and Patrick Bette David and Theo Vaughn and a few of the ones that aren't in the world that I like Know about as much but a bunch of like bigger podcasts there is something about that that you're like if that not only is that being done regularly by a presidential candidate but if he then

wins and it's like that's how you got elected now and people have to come through they have to march through that scene going forward that's gonna be a huge dynamic shift in all of this and one that I think offers many more possibilities for potential good things to happen than if it just continued to be like, oh, the four corporate outlets that the war party owns. That's where you have to go through. I would much rather have them have to go to Tucker Carlson and Joe Rogan, you know? That's a much better situation for the country. I think the major news companies are gonna Die too close to nothing or they're gonna really have to change the way they do business

Yeah, well, you know in in a weird way I was talking to Pierce Morgan about this earlier today because I was just like it in a weird way He is the only one who seems to be attempting to adapt right? Like he's the only one who's from the legacy corporate media Who's like, okay. Well, what if I bring on? podcasters and people from that media and these people and then we have Host these fiery debates and all that and he's at least trying, you know, and it's getting huge ratings Um, however, you feel about you know, the show devolves into a shit show at times, but I do like pierce and I like doing the show

um, but I do like Pearson. I like doing the show. Um, but but it is kind of to your point that like yeah, you guys are either gonna have to change your business model or Do this. All right, guys, let's take a moment and thank our sponsor for today's show, which is Z Biotics Z Biotics Pre-alcohol probiotic drink is the world's first genetically engineered probiotic It was invented by PhD scientists to tackle rough mornings after drinking Okay, so here's how it works when you drink alcohol gets converted into a toxic byproduct in the gut It's this byproduct not dehydration. That's to blame for your rough next day Z-biotics produces an enzyme to break this byproduct down

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they'll refund your money, no questions asked. Zbiotics.com slash POTP, promo code POTP at checkout for 15% off. All right, let's get back into the show. And what makes me think that they can't change their business model is I don't even know if Comedy Central exists as a network anymore. I don't know what happens over there. I guess they do The Daily Show. South Park decided to take off the presidential season. I don't know how much new programming exists at Comedy Central, but amidst this changing climate, you know, and maybe it's just because Netflix has more of the money now, it's not like they try to go out and buy Tony or go out and buy, you know what I mean?

They didn't like readapt and go, oh, well, we got the money here. So let's bring this all back under our roof and try and, you know, produce sketch shows with all of these top comics. Let's figure out how we can revamp and actually bring in all this talent, which then costs money. When you don't develop the talent and you gotta go out and buy it once it's developed, it's more expensive.

But I haven't seen them make any effort, nor do I see them producing new things. I just see Comedy Central as something that's probably not gonna exist in 10 years. Or if it does, it's just gonna be the old archive for whatever the just TV generic commercial spots are, which have to play increasingly less and less as you have less and less people watching or paying attention to it. Well, you know, one of the things that, you know, we've talked about over the last few

weeks too, has been kind of the, you know, as we talked about today, like the response of the corporate media to all of this, and even the stuff like when Obama was coming Out and lecturing black man about how they're sexist We've seen a lot Michelle Obama continued that trend in her speech the other day And I think that there is one of the things that holds them back whether it's Comedy Central or the corporate media or something like that Is that they still have? the like the hubris and they still have the like the hubris and the set like, like they still have this mentality, this very pompous, like holier than thou mentality that was So like the the people at CNN still look down their nose in disgust

With anybody who doesn't you know what I mean? Like do it the way they do it even though they're failing It's almost like you know if you could imagine like if someone was a bodybuilder And they cheated they cheated to get where they were they took a bunch of steroids They had the whole system rigged for them the judges were all in their pockets and were saying but they were like a but and then like over time Because they had bought off the judges and whatever the whole thing They just they started to have a lot of atrophy they got smaller and smaller and smaller they weren't that big they weren't even in the gym anymore now is just like a fat guy and

Everybody started leaving nobody started coming to their bodybuilding competitions anymore. You know, they're all gone and they're over to a different one, but they still had the same attitude. Like when they were the successful bodybuilder and everyone was coming to their show and they're still sitting there like, you know, like flexing and posing, but you're like you're just like a fat guy now with no one in the audience. But it's almost that mentality where they can't escape it to even adapt to the new market and figure out what we have to do

It's like it's it's all across. It's like the the legacy media people have this enormous Sense of superiority. I was I was briefly talking about it backstage with Mehdi Hassan Earlier today where he you know, we were kind of talking about and he's from like the corporate media world and he was still going like, he was like, yeah, well, the whole podcast scene has totally killed the media. Like, and I was saying that and he was like, oh yeah, it's totally true. It's a shame because we need real journalism, you know? And like,

he's like what Theo Vaughn and Joe Rogan did with Trump was not real journalism and blah, blah, blah. And like, I kind of get what he said. I get that. Like they weren't just grilling him about like his fuck it you know like well your battle plans in Syria were this or not that you know, but It's not like you get anything like that out of the corporate media Anyway, all they would do is ask him gotcha questions about January 6th for for 20 minutes And just and then just spin everything and lie and you know it's like that we weren't getting it from them Anyway, so fuck that

Burn that system down and let's try to build up something something better then at least that's how I feel about it and it's hard to not say like I you know, I also do think that again libertarians can can take this or leave this and I know that You know look I know whenever it comes to like voting for someone or even talking about thinking about voting for them, it's there's always going to be people who get annoyed by whatever decision you make. I understand that, but it is hard to not like kind of like, as you, you look at it and go, look, this isn't the fantasy, you know,

whatever the fantasy is about, like the people wake up, the message is delivered to them the right way and they understand free markets and central banking and government intervention and all this shit. And they're good on all of it now. And a young Ron Paul is going into the white house to clean up this whole mess or something. Okay. It's not that I'm not saying that's what's happening at all. However, I will say that within that world, this new world of influence that's being built up,

you're talking about people like Joe Rogan and Tucker Carlson and Vivek Ramaswamy and Bobby Kennedy and Tulsi Gabbard. In that world, there is a real libertarian influence on all of those people. Now, none of them I would describe as like strict, pure libertarians. You know, the, the vague is probably the closest, but like I'm not, you know what I mean? None of them are exactly good on everything, but there is no question. I mean, Elon Musk will, if you follow his Twitter,

like he'll often tweet out a Milton Friedman video or so, you know, okay, again, I'm not saying anything's perfect, but it's at least something about like government being too big and out of control. There is none of them are good on Israel, but other than that, there is a tendency to be more suspicious of wars than for them. A tendency to be more suspicious of regulation, a tendency to be more suspicious of kind of like government Collusion of power, you know, they may dismiss them as conspiracy theorists or something like that

But it's like I'd much rather have the people who are very concerned about government colluding with private interest to rig the system Against regular people like there's just we we at least have some influence with them There's some type of libertarian spirit that animates a little bit of that conversation. On top of that, you have Donald Trump who came to the Libertarian Party Convention has promised to free Ross and to put a libertarian in his cabinet. God willing, he keeps those promises. Who knows? But there's at least like, there's something there. And at the same time as you have that you have

Kamala Harris campaigning with Liz Cheney and the entire corporate media meltdown machine Desperately trying to prop her up so that they can retain their importance in dominating American thought and it is I will just say and I feel this way including 2016 and 2020 there's never been an election that I've seen before Where there wasn't like of the major two-party candidates there wasn't like there was such a major difference Between them and one that was doing something So clearly preferable to what the other one is doing that That at least like, like even you said, like, I don't know, there seems to be a chance that he's at least going to unleash Bobby Kennedy and

the vague Rama Swami on some little portions of the government and let them go attack the, you know what I mean? The corruption there, it's something. It's something. And the goddamn close to this campaign has really been something. I don't know. Final thoughts of the show, of the show Rob, I'll give it to you. As we're down to the wire, this week's Sunday, tune in. 8pm, you will have my debut comedy special up on my channel, Robbie the Fire, and this weekend I'm in New Hampshire at The Shell. And then we'll also put the first 10 minutes up on Dave's channel, probably a little bit

before mine goes live. Alright, sounds good. Thanks for watching everybody, part watching everybody part of the problem calm to support the show if you want to watch the ad the shows live unfree Ad censored go over there and support the show comic Dave Smith calm and that's all peace you