Part Of The Problem - Night One of the DNC

Episode Date: August 21, 2024

Dave Smith brings you the latest in politics! On this episode of Part Of The Problem, Dave is joined by co-host Robbie "The Fire" Bernstein for a discussion on the first day of the DNC including Biden's speech, the schedule for the week, celebrities that were invited to speak, problems with undercutting and price gouging, and so much more!Part Of The Problem is available for early pre-release at https://partoftheproblem.com/ as well as an exclusive episode on Thursday!Support Our SponsorsMonetary Metals - https://bit.ly/4eoich3My Patriot Supply - https://www.preparewithsmith.com/Get your tickets to Porch Tour Herehttps://porchtour.comFind Run Your Mouth here:Youtube - https://www.youtube.com/@robbiethefire2577/streamsItunes - https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/run-your-mouth-podcast/id1211469807Spotify - https://open.spotify.com/show/4ka50RAKTxFTxbtyPP8AHmFollow the show on social media:Twitter:http://twitter.com/ComicDaveSmithhttp://twitter.com/RobbieTheFireInstagram:http://instagram.com/theproblemdavesmithhttp://instagram.com/robbiethefire#libertarianSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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is free. Visit audible.ca to sign up. What's up guys? Welcome to a brand new episode of part of the problem I am Dave Smith he is Robbie the fire Bernstein what's up brother? I like back-to-back days. You know we're gonna get there five days a week live all on the platform Oh, you are making promises. I am not prepared to back up Let's stick let's stick with four and get this get this all down to a loyal machine I'm enjoying the groove and I'm not prepared to back up. Let's stick with four and get this all down to a loyal machine. I'm just saying, I'm enjoying the groove, and while it's here at the top of the show, this weekend back at Max's, the ODG porch, I've got to line up five comics, the Shedcast Boys live concert, and I think I'm going to do a live podcast

on an introduction to Tallid the giant boring book Really? I think so I started like thinking of jokes for it. I was like, you know what? I think I got enough here Let's just do it dude. This is the first I'm hearing of this. I think this is such an excellent idea. I Love it. I just think it's so like even just when you were talking to me about it Yesterday there's just so much that's hilarious about it it's just like i i just think like the jokes are all right there for you it's great i think i'm gonna have some fun with it i started playing around with it this morning and i was like oh there's a lot of meat on this bone i feel like i get this done by saturday there absolutely is uh all right i'm real interested to to watch that all right uh also me and rob will be, what is this, like we're a week and a half, 10 days,

in 10 days we'll be in at Hyenas in Fort Worth and then the following day at the Hyenas in Dallas. Then we got Casper, Wyoming, Oklahoma City, Tulsa, Oklahoma, Detroit, Michigan, Kansas City, Poughkeepsie, New York, Philadelphia, and then Bozeman, Montana for the first time. First time I've ever, let's just say first time I've ever been. I don't think that's proper when you haven't been yet. First time I will ever be in Montana, which I'm really looking forward to. That should be fun. All right. Comic Dave Smith for all the ticket links for all of that stuff. So Last night was night one of the Democratic National Convention It was a very interesting There's a very interesting first night of a convention

To me and I'm curious to get your thoughts on it as well. But first of all, it's just hard. It's so bizarre That like the whole thing is so strange. It's just I've never seen anything quite like this. But so they got the Biden speech out of the way. It was first of all, having the sitting president of the United States of America speak on night one is crazy. I've never seen that happen before. It's crazy in hindsight that the Republican Convention was an entire convention against a

guy who they're not running against anymore, which is like a weird thing. I never really thought about that until the DNC started. And it was almost like, oh, that really sucks if you're the Republicans. But just imagine holding that big of an event, how much money you know, like we do live events, you have a little bit of an understanding of how big an event something like that is like holding a massive stadium rally. And then you do the whole thing against a guy and that's not even the guy anymore. It's almost like they should get a new one or something. It's almost incredible watching him that they ever were gonna do it. I mean you and I knew

that he couldn't possibly work but now every time that you talk, the fact that it was just a month ago they were pretending that he could still be president and when you see him through that lens now you're like how was that only, was it a month ago, six weeks ago? And you're like how did we even live in the reality where they pretended because now he seems so done in irrelevant you can't it's almost like when a band had a hit single and they were the biggest thing you're the Hawk to a girl for a week yeah and then by the next week you're irrelevant and you're like how were you this big but it's more like the Rolling Stones we had hit after hit after hit you know you're

you're hugely relevant and then he gets the age where I don't't know, they still sell tickets, but they're not cool. But you get what I'm saying. Oh, no, no question. I mean, it was one of the things that was one of my major takeaways for sure of last night was just that, I mean, I watched it this morning. I was out last night, but it was you sit there and and you actually can't believe it's not even just what you're saying. It's not that you can't believe that they were actually going to run this guy

who is again, this has nothing to do with what your politics are. You could be the furthest left wing or the furthest right wing or anywhere in between. But this guy is clearly not up to the task. I mean, and to watch him and go, not only is it that it was like a little over a month ago, but they were going to go with this guy. But that if they hadn't had that debate, which was, by the way, much earlier than presidential debates typically are, that they hadn't have had that debate if they which seems at least plausibly likely that when they presented those rules they were trying

to get Donald Trump to say no that was Trump's theory on it and I think that might be the case I mean certainly you could say Donald Trump could have said no to that debate it wasn't't pre-agreed to. It wasn't on the schedule. The proposal was, hey, do you want to debate on CNN with muted microphones, with no independent media allowed in the room? Donald Trump easily could have said no,

and that's, I want to debate on a more neutral, in a more neutral setting. I want media to be allowed in. I don't agree to the muted microphones or something like that. And if he had just said no, then Joe Biden is the nominee. Like right now, they would still be trying to get this guy through. And I mean, look, after the speech last night, it's just it's like one more reminder that it was just if you're a Democrat, you are so lucky that that debate ended up happening.

Joe Biden did as poorly as he did. And ultimately, they made the switch because there's just no way this guy could have. There's no way this guy has another three plus months of campaigning in him. It's pretty insane that he's going to be president that whole time. But the speech look, I mean, honestly, with where Joe Biden is in his cognitive abilities, he did all right. Like he pulled off a speech. It wasn't good, but he didn't completely collapse into himself. So by that standard, he did all right. But I agree with you that just watching him, it's painful.

It's really painful to see. And he does this, we've talked about this a lot, but the constant overcompensating thing where he just kind of yells, it's like he can't, he at this point also just, like slurs all of his words He just slurs through the entire speech. He looks very old and confused But he knows that and he senses that that's weak so to overcompensate for that. He'll just be real angry and loud Yeah, I'm Trump America. Oh, yeah

You know and it's like what are you doing dude?? Now you're just an old man yelling at clouds. This isn't better. And so just through the whole speech, it was like, yeah, that was one of my major takeaways too that you're like, can't believe they were actually going to do this. On specifically the yelling first, it almost seemed to me as if they re-drugged him, but it got to the point in the drugging stage where you're just an angry person. You've all met those angry drunks or the angry cokeheads, just sometimes the drugs turn and that maybe might have even been why they didn't drug him up for the debate because it's turned to this.

But it was interesting because you had it, it's almost like when you watch the entire show is going well with comedians and then one guy tanks. The crowd was into it the whole night. They're applauding at everything. Every stupid break, people are applauding. It feels like they're all doing this more energized, yelly thing that they don't know how to be energetic, so they're yelling, but the crowd's carrying them with claps. And then Joe Biden gets up there and firstly, he starts with the old horse shit of Charlottesville, which is, couldn't be more boring

Outdated and irrelevant and he's doing more of an angry Ellie thing and even he loses the crowd Which had been into it all night, but his drugged out yelling thing which is more of a yelling at you and not quite on the Talking points that you were interested in and it it just, the level of disconnect there of, hey man, it's time for you not to be showing up to these anymore, like you're done. It is wild too, I mean, look, to your point, because I almost forgot about that,

but it is so crazy that he starts with Charlottesville. It was his first presidential ad, if you remember, back in 2019 was his first presidential ad if you remember back in 2019 his first presidential ad was about Charlottesville and at the time I remember like I Remember us talking about it and I think the overwhelming reaction to it was just like I mean really you're back Then it was already years ago, and it was I mean was Charlotte's Charlottesville was a couple hundred people. And like, okay, you could be like, there were neo Nazis there or whatever, but what, I don't know.

A group of people who have absolutely no power or influence, it's just so irrelevant. But to be going back to this now, this is, you know, when he ran that first ad, this was in 2019. It was before COVID. Okay. But now we've had COVID, the lockdowns, the, you know, the, the 2020 presidential campaign, four years of Joe Biden after that, to be going back to the fact you're going back nearly a Decade at this point to go but here's the thing. I want to open my speech with Some racists had a rally

Seven years ago eight years ago, whatever it is now. I It's just unbelievable that they'd even try that it's also what an incredible moment Charlottesville was for human history because you know like rocks paper scissors shoot you kind of learn the rock beats the city you know you just learn the dynamics we've learned that Nazis can be defeated with urine that's all it's up if we had just known that in World War two Nazis nearly overtook our country and they were defeated with a couple pores of stale urine that's all it took.

I mean it's just it's so ridiculous it is as they didn't even have the event by the way in Charlottesville The event got canceled and over I think the cups of piss that were thrown And they got and then they got spooked and went back underground I think we even heard from the guy that you interviewed on the show later. He was saying yeah that didn't work Yeah, oh, yeah, I'm didn't work. Yeah. Oh, yeah I'm not gonna throw events anymore. Oh, yeah I mean and it's just not it's not as if any of that ever took off or led to a huge movement or like Like there's just nothing it's it was just yeah

it was a dumb thing a bunch of people who had views that are considered to be a parent by the overwhelming majority of the country, including 100% of people who have any power. There is nobody with any power who's actually like a Charlottesville ethno-nationalist. But anyway, it's almost so ridiculous, especially when there's so many real problems. Like, there is a real regional war in the Middle East right now that is spreading. We have a proxy war that is bleeding over into Russia's borders. The worst price inflation of my lifetime, the worst immigration crisis of my lifetime. I

mean, just like $35 trillion in debt. No, we got a lot of issues to start with. Like what is just obviously a cheap tactic so that you can paint your opposition as this couple hundred people from, you know, 2017 is it's ridiculous. Well, anyway, moving on, one of the other things that I'd say was one of my biggest takeaways was that it and I think this really can't be overstated. that it and I think this really can't be overstated it was it incredibly disrespectful to the sitting president of the United States of America to have him speak on the Monday. Kamala Harris is speaking on Thursday and typically you have like typically with these conventions the last two days are when you put your bigger speakers up.

It was quite a slap in the face to Joe Biden. I also thought it was pretty funny that they had Joe Biden and Hillary Clinton speak on the first night. It's just so obvious that they're like, listen, these are the people who we couldn't not invite, but are clear liabilities for us. And we're hoping that by the end of this convention,

you kind of just forget that they were even here because they are like you know one of them is the one who lost to Donald Trump who's like the most unlikable politician in the country and the other one is the guy who we'd rather you forget because he represents so much of what we just did. Part of the reason to the point you were making part of the reason why why I think Joe Biden did seem to lose the crowd for a little bit there is that when Joe Biden is up and speaking, it really is a reminder of something that that audience would like to put out of their mind, but you kind of can't put it out of your mind. Like all the things we were just saying these pop into anyone's head

if you're in this situation you can't not think to yourself oh yeah like just a few weeks ago this was the guy that we were all pretending should be the nominee we were all and in fact you they they were all saying that people like us who were pointing out that obviously the guy is like senile, they were all saying that people like us who were pointing out that obviously the guy is like senile, that we were all wrong. Like this was, I mean, again, this can't be overstated. The week that he dropped out, that was the dominant talking point in all of the corporate media. Cheap fakes and all this nonsense.

And so just to see that, you kind of had no choice but to like, you can't not have him speak because he's the president and he's the last Democrat who got elected. You just can't not have him speak. But you also want to have as many new stories come out, you know what I mean, as possible in between that thought and when the convention wraps up So it but just an incredible slap in the face to him. I've never seen anything like this Well in terms of slap in the face, don't worry He's not gonna remember so it does seem like it does seem like he's at the point where you could just be like no You spoke on Thursday. Yeah. Yeah, I don't think that's going to be a problem.

But you're right, and I hadn't even thought of that, that he's such an incredible liability to the party and that they really have to try and keep him back in the basement because anytime you see him, it's just showcasing to everybody how much of the machine lied to you and is capable of lying to you. It really is a chink in the propaganda armor that he became so terrible that they couldn't even disguise it. Yeah well and and there's something and and maybe this is a little bit of a deeper thought so I'm not saying this is like in everybody's minds in the way the obvious is like the obvious is in people's minds. You look at him, the guy's way too old to be doing this. It's, it's also just, as I've said,

many times, but it bears repeating that it's such a scandal that everybody has accepted the guy is too old to run for president yet he's not too old to be president. Like, cause obviously the reason he can't run is because he's suffering severe cognitive decline. But he can still be the commander in chief until January. It's so illogical that he can't do one but can do the other. But on a kind of more interesting, deeper level,

there's something very revealing about the way the system works. And not just the way the system works, but the way certain candidates like Joe Biden and like Kamala Harris work. Okay, you know when we've talked about how okay, so so and again, this is like a lot of these points. I'm just this is just analysis that doesn't matter what your politics are. I think you should be able to understand this doesn't matter left-wing or right-wing or libertarian whatever. There are certain people like Tucker Carlson left Fox News, and he is now much bigger than he was on Fox News and he is now much bigger than he was on Fox News.

By any metric, he just gets a lot more views. There's a lot more eyeballs on him off of Fox News than there were when he was on Fox News. Now, that is because Tucker Carlson had a certain type of fan base, a genuine fan base that are fans of his. Okay. Don Lemon got fired from CNN and is much less relevant now than he was. Chris Cuomo got fired from CNN. He has many fewer eyeballs on him than he did then because

his power just came from the machine. Right? Like people weren't, it's not that people were hardcore Chris Cuomo fans, it's that they were watching the 8 p.m. hour of CNN. And if Chris Cuomo's on, then that's who they're gonna watch. And if you took him out and put Anderson Cooper on,

then Anderson Cooper's who they're gonna watch. This is true, by the way, for the majority of hosts on cable news shows. Like if you have like a Fox News watching Dad, he's probably just watching Fox News. And if Fox News makes a move where like, you know, they switch the host at the 4pm hour, he's probably just going to watch Fox News at 4pm. Because like if he's home at that time and he's cracking a beer, Fox News is what he turns on. It's not that the host actually has grassroots support, it's that the network has grassroots

support. Okay. Watching Joe Biden and how easily they could just take him out and put Kamala Harris in and all of the same people who were just cheering for Joe Biden will now be cheering for Kamala Harris. It just demonstrates something. They're that guy. They're more Chris Cuomo than Tucker Carlson. That's not true for lots of other people. That was not true for Barack Obama. Like Barack Obama when he was at his height, you know, because they were trying to make a comparison that this is like the 2008 convention. The difference is if they had removed Barack Obama and tried to put someone else in, Barack Obama voters would have followed Barack Obama. People loved him. Bernie Sanders people

in the 2016 convention, they, I don't know if you remember this, Rob, but they were, um, is a very interesting moment, but on night one of the convention, they made it like Bernie Sanders night. He spoke and his people were there and a bunch of celebrities who had endorsed him were there. And they were, they were screaming, they were chanting Bernie or bust. There were like all these Bernie or bust signs in the crowd of people who were not going to support Hillary Clinton because they were like, no, we're not. We're not OK with you just pulling this person out and putting this person in. We're here for that person and we're here for the things he believes that that's there's just

nothing like that with these guys. Now, again, however you feel about him, that's what Donald Trump is. Donald Trump supporters are just not going with anyone else. Now, again, however you feel about him, that's what Donald Trump is. Donald Trump supporters are just not going with anyone else. And they tried early in this primary to push DeSantis, to push Nikki Haley. A lot of the institutional money went behind those guys. But Donald Trump voters are like, no, Donald Trump could literally drop out of the Republican Party and run third party right now and carry almost all of his voters with him. Like they would just go vote for that other party. This is not something Kamala Harris could do.

Let's just say. And so I don't know, just watching Joe Biden, it almost like it just kind of struck me of how fake all of the Joe Biden support has been for all this time. I mean, look, like Kamala Harris is doing a little bit better in the polls. If you look at most polls than Joe Biden, but it's like five points.

Yeah, like it's not like she's not 30 points better than Joe Biden was. I'm saying you had about the same amount of people who were just supporting Joe Biden. They pull him out, put her in, and they're right back to just supporting her. I guess she pulled those five points from like people in the middle or something like that. Maybe people who were just like, I'm not going to vote for a guy this old and senile, but okay, she doesn't have that problem. So now they'll support her. But you just realize that Joe Biden, the whole thing that was the Joe Biden, you know, Joe Biden, the politician,

as soon as you pulled the support of CNN and the New York Times and the Democratic establishment and all of that, you're like, what are you left with? And the answer is zero. There's nothing. There's nobody. I don't think there's one person in America. I mean, I literally is zero. There's nothing. There's nobody. There's not. I don't think there's one person in America. I mean, I literally mean zero.

I don't think there's one person in America who's like, no, I was supporting Joe Biden. I'm not going to support the next person. I'm not supporting Kamala Harris. I was a Joe Biden voter. Like not one. That really says something, doesn't it? I mean, like if you were to do that with, a few weeks before convention, you'd have a massive problem on your hands. You're like, dude, there's no

way there's no way you're going to carry half of his voters, there will be 10s of millions of people who are like, No, that was my guy, you can't pull him out. Bernie Sanders, same thing. Donald Trump, same thing. Really says something, There's no one. There's no there's not a correct me if I'm wrong. If there's one person in America, I do not think there's one person in America who's like I was going to go for Biden, but I just can't vote for Kamala Harris. I don't think there's anyone. And just shows you how kind of artificial the whole thing is. Now, by the way, you could defend that. You could even

maybe make an argument that it's like, yes, well, that's right, we're supporting a system, not just one individual person. But there's still something to me that's interesting about that, that you see that there's just no true organic grassroots support. And I got to say, as much as people are trying to pretend that that is the case with Kamala Harris, we all kinda know it's the same thing. She's not one of those figures. She could be pulled out and replaced by someone

and the people would probably fall in line. And in fact, I think that the level of enthusiasm that there actually is, much of it I think is fake, but the level of enthusiasm that there actually is, is this very, it's a very weird dynamic, unlike anything I've ever seen in politics before, where what it really is, is that that uncomfortable feeling that Democrats had to have last night where you're watching Joe Biden and it reminds you of what you guys were just doing, there just is a tremendous sense of relief that they don't have that problem anymore. They don't have the problem of what we just saw last night. I think that's really where most of the excitement is about Kamala Harris.

It sounds like you're basically just describing indoctrination and compliance that their whole team just goes, all right, you told me this, the guy, we're all going to be here. Donald Trump ad our thing good. So we'll do it. We'll do it. We'll do it. And, you know, speaking to your latter point, yeah, they're like, Oh, we might actually be able to win with this other person. Thank God. Yeah. Yeah. All right, guys, let's take a moment and thank our sponsor for today's show, which is Monetary Metals. I love this company.

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to monetary dash metals.com to learn more. All right, let's get back into the show. So anyway, so today, tonight is night two. They got they got Barack Obama speaking tonight. I have to check who the others are. Obama gets a better speaking slot than Biden, which again, it just kind of tells you something. I mean, Joe Biden is the president of the United States of America. Do you think Biden even shows up for these next couple of nights? Do they sit there and try and keep him awake in his seat? After Hillary Clinton just made fun of Trump falling asleep in court? It is. Wasn't that something too the that's the line they went with but it is it's amazing

It's just look it's just how soulless these people are and how much they believe in nothing I shouldn't even say they believe in nothing They they believe in none of the things that they claim publicly to believe in. They do believe in some things privately. But they would go up. You can see how they all feel now. Like, oh, and look, fair enough. I mean, there's something to this, I think, for almost everybody, if you're being honest,

where as soon as Joe Biden drops out and someone 50 years younger than him, whatever, 50 years younger than him, whatever the 40 years younger than him is running, you do kind of go, Oh, well now Trump's the old guy in, in the race. And then there's something to that. Like, you know, however you feel about all these guys, Donald Trump is too old to be doing this. It's ridiculous. There's Donald Trump. What, how old will he be if he wins at the end? It's 84, 83. guys Donald Trump is too old to be doing this it's ridiculous there's Donald Trump what how old will he be if he wins at the end 84 83 something like that I don't know if he's

got Mayo blood he's good to go yeah well look I mean Donald Trump is a unique cockroach he's just he just keeps clicking he is I swear to God Donald Trump does I know I've told you this before I think off air but Donald Trump makes me like every time my wife is telling me to do something to be healthy, Donald Trump has become my excuse. And she's like, Oh, come on, dude, let's, let's go like a for a jog or whatever. Here, let's just get salads for lunch. And I'm like, Donald Trump has well done stakes with ketchup and McDonald's and look at him. He's a city cockroach. He'll never okay, but still he's 79 He'll be 83 83 is way too old to be president. This is crazy. It's too old to be the CEO of a major company It's too old. Like this is just nuts. No, no

Fortune 500 company hires an 83 year old to be their CEO We don't know how people age when they spend 25% of their life in a tanner. That's true. We're fine. Empirically speaking, we're finding out in real time. So your your guess is as good as ours on that one. But anyway, so you know, he is left as being the old one. But speaking about like Hillary Clinton, how soulless she is, it's like you guys pivot from like this like

no, that's ageism. And then as soon as your old man candidate gets out, you're like, Look how old this guy is. I mean, that's obviously the subtext of what she's saying there. Look, he fell asleep. Anyway, to your question. I mean, I don't know, but my guess is no Joe Biden is not going to be sitting there with them I I think there's a reason why they had him speak on night one They're trying to put as much distance between that memory and what your last memory of this convention is as possible So I do not think you'll see him now

So that's got a sucky get cooed and then you got to show up and applaud for five straight night like nights Talk about you thought that you were on top. You're like, holy shit, I had an established career, I got to be president, and then the mob just bitches you out where they take away your job and you gotta just show up and pretend like you're happy about it. It wasn't, there was something, it was like out of like an episode of House of Cards

or something like that, watching Kamala up in the seat as Joe Biden gives this speech endorsing her. Yeah, now she's in like the presidential box. She's got the sweet. She's got the best seats in the house and she's the man in the house. And totally just like, you know, from every inch. I will say because it's hard sometimes to get a gauge on some of these people like Kamala Harris, who seems to me to just say whatever she thinks is going to be popular or whatever she thinks is going to help her get elected. You know,

like when she came out for a ceasefire in Gaza or whatever, it's just like literally protesters, this Kamala Harris, okay. Protesters showed up to her rally demanding a ceasefire. I don't know if you saw this video and she like in a real like obnoxious way was like, are you done now? Cause it's either me or Donald Trump. So you have nothing to say. But then the next day she announces she's first ceasefire. Like it was just like that, like right there, she was like, Oh, you awful protest. Then, then she came out the next day and said, I agree with the protesters.

I agree with what they're saying after slamming them 24 hours later, her campaign sits down and goes, you know what? We got to just say we're for a ceasefire. Take care of this protest issue so we don't have to deal with this the whole way through because they realize there's going to be massive protests. There still were protests in Chicago last night outside. We'll see in what numbers they're there. They are there for the rest of the week. But

but that's Kamala Harris. But I got to say, not knowing who she is behind closed doors, her and the people around her pulled off a pretty savvy move. They did pull off a pretty savvy move to get themselves into that presidential box there. Because there was she, what she did was she, and this did take like real political chops. And you'd imagine someone like Kamala Harris. I mean, you know, this is a woman who is relatively young for the people around her. She's been one of the top prosecutors in California, got elected to the Senate,

became vice president is now the Democratic presidential nominee. She probably has a little bit of, you know, she's probably, you know, a tad bit crafty. Um, and so what she did was as Joe Biden started, uh, falling apart after that debate, she came out and said, Joe Biden is fine. He's great. He's got my undying support till the end. We're going to run and we're going to win this thing. And then what happened was the entire

media started speculating over who should be the candidate when Joe Biden inevitably has to drop out and no one was speculating her. They were all talking about Gavin Newsom and all these other potential options that they had. And then she came out and said, or it wasn't her, but it was like one of her top advisors came out and said that it was very offensive the way they were skipping over her and thinking about all of these other people who would be there. And so what she was able to do was really quite brilliant was first of all, come out

and be like, I'm totally for this guy. I am not telling you to drop Joe Biden. I'm not telling him to drop out. So you come off as like a loyal foot soldier. But then she had also signaled that, by the way, if you do want to get him out, you're going to have to go through me. You're not going to be able to just get him out and just go to someone else and think, I'm just going to to endorse that I have a card I can play here. And that card was

overwhelmingly powerful. I mean, this is how she got the nominee. And it is the nomination weather. And it's something man, the democrats deserve it so much because they literally put her in this position, just so they could add an element of history to Joe Biden's presidential campaign in 2020. So they could add an element of history to Joe Biden's presidential campaign in 2020. So they could say, look, we're going to have the first woman of color as vice president. And then she gets to sit there and say, well, OK, well, if that's something you value, then you can't just skip over a woman of color.

I mean, come on. And she could have played that card and made their lives hell. And I don't even know if we'll get another Indian that identifies as black the odds the odds are stacked against them I'll tell you there's there's got to be others out there but it's not gonna be easy to be the only opportunity we're ever gonna have for a female Indian that identifies as black to become president I lost that box again I don't share your pessimism, Rob. I think there's where this country's diversity is in is a is increasing and I'd like to think we could find another. But you know, but that so then while she's doing all that, while she's supporting Joe

Biden publicly signaling if he does leave, I'm not going to get out of the way privately. Then she goes and joins Barack Obama and says she'll she'll support invoking the 25th Amendment if Joe Biden doesn't drop out of the race. So publicly she's defending him privately. She's literally getting ready to have him removed legally from the presidency while also signaling that you won't be able to skip over her. Just saying politically speaking, it was a kind of brilliant move that she was able to pull off there. That's all I'm saying. I'm not I don't know if it was her doing or the

people around her or whatever. But she did pull off something pretty impressive there. Anyway, back to the convention itself. It's interesting the way they've laid this out. So they got Joe Biden speaking today. I'm sorry, last night. Then they have Obama speaking today. Then they have Bill Clinton, I believe, and Kamala Harris speaking on, no, I'm sorry,

Bill Clinton. So today Barack Obama speaking, tomorrow, Wednesday, Bill Clinton believe, and Kamala Harris speaking on, no, I'm sorry, Bill Clinton. So today Barack Obama speaking, tomorrow, Wednesday, Bill Clinton speaking, and then they have Kamala Harris speaking on Thursday. It's very interesting the way they played that out. They clearly want to look, obviously, if you're a Democrat, and you're talking about giving these speeches, it's pretty clear that Joe Biden and Hillary Clinton are liabilities, Barack Obama and Bill Clinton are viewed as assets.

So you get your liabilities out of the way night one. Now, Barack Obama's going tonight because Barack Obama's a little too good at this. And then that's the other issue that they have. Oh, they need the separation. You couldn't have Barack Obama speak like on the same night as Kamala Harris. You just can't do that because it's just like he's look, when it comes to public speaking, he's the best at that.

That's what he's great at. And so you kind of are in a little bit of a weird position where you're like, okay, we got to do you got it. You want that you want to have this great speech from Barack Obama, but, um, you know, you don't want to overshine your own candidate. So Obama will go today. I'll be interested to see that speech. You know, Bill Clinton, I'm always interested to see all these guys speeches because I'm a nerd for all

this, uh, evil theater that is politics. But it's, um, Bill Clinton certainly doesn't have what he used to have. He was once a really phenomenal public speaker. He doesn't quite have that magic anymore. I think Bill Clinton, uh, I think did too many drugs in his day. That's the thing. And I heard this is not my original thought, but someone else made this point, which I do think really applies is that one of the things that like,

Bill Clinton did too many drugs when he was younger, and he's a little bit fried. And he also did this thing where he was he was chubby when he was young, and then got thin when he was old. And you're not supposed to do it that way. Whatever it is, it's like the age is your face. Yeah, it's just what's supposed to happen, right, is that you're supposed to be like thin when you're young. And then as you get older, you're supposed to let yourself go a little bit.

That's the natural. That's the way God wants it, okay? And when you try to fight God, you always lose. So when you're like tubby when you're young and then you try to get thin and in shape when you're old, yet you're just left with like too much skin on a skeletal body type thing. Anyway, too much partying and being fat when he was younger. I think there's another element that the fuel for politicians is that people like them.

That's kind of the whole job is that they get the support of the people and as a result of that they've got power and then you know companies and governments and everyone else has to try and pay them for their access of power because they got the illusion that, it's not the illusion, they got the support of the general population. I think there's enough information out there about what Bill Clinton did in his career at this point, which includes the Epstein storyline. I would almost I don't think will happen because Hillary still cheered on. And I think, as we said, they're indoctrinated enough

that you put someone up there, they're like, all right, we're on this team. We got to applaud for this. But I have to guess that even amongst the democratic establishment, they're not, they must see Bill Clinton as a liability as well. I can't imagine that they're like, hey, this is our safe. I mean, yes, he had a great economy.

I think even amongst the uneducated, they must realize that that was somewhat the, you know, led to the collapse later on that he'd benefited from a boom bus cycle. You've got the Epstein storyline. Yeah. And not even just, not even just the Epstein stuff, but just the, the multiple women who have accused him of rape. I mean, it's, you know, it's not good.

It's you got like, I think there's like six different women who have accused them of some type of rig, really vicious sexual assault or rape. And yeah, that's just, that's not a, you know, that's not a good look. I mean, look, the guy was never convicted of it, but he also like was pretty involved in like, I mean, he paid some of them off and there's, it's just not, it's not great. That's for sure. Doesn't help. And it's a particularly, I think, you know, for people on the left who like kind of, I mean,

obviously I think there's a lot, there's a lot of a almost kind of like recalibrating on, on the left about like where exactly they are with this stuff. It's not like 2017 when it was like the height of the Me Too movement where it's like, you know, you don't really hear people saying believe all women anymore. But I still imagine that like if you're talking if there's multiple allegations against a guy, that's at least got to be problematic. You know, it certainly would have been enough to like cancel someone's Netflix series, but this guy still comes and speaks at the DNC. It's there's something

pretty weird about that. Yeah. So I just I don't think he's got the same pull as he once did. Yeah, no, you're probably right about that. I mean, I think essentially they're they're left with Obama as being their only real rock star at this point And imagine seeing Bush and Cheney at a Republican thing They don't they don't bring them out for the RNC even if it wasn't Trump if it was someone else are they bringing out Bush? And Cheney, I don't think so no no no there's no popular about those guys There really is something that's pretty interesting about that and it's not just

Them and then this is this is something that's much different on the Republican side than the Democratic side. But yeah, Bush, Cheney, and even Mitt Romney, who was their nominee in 2012. None of those guys are coming out anymore. And part of it is because none of them are going to support Donald Trump. But part of it is also what you're saying that it's like, it's just a reminder. Nobody, you know, Bill Clinton is still largely at least could be viewed, you know, like I get your point taken about the boom bust cycles and all that stuff. Most people still look back somewhat favorably on the Clinton years. And a lot of that is just because it's in comparison to everything that followed. And there's a lot of nostalgia about the 90s.

I would argue for good reason. It really was a different country pre-911. And you know, okay, was it just peace and prosperity under Bill Clinton? No, not exactly, but certainly it was peace compared to everything that followed and It was a time at least that people you know, right they were in the boom side of a boom bust So at least people were feeling good about that You can kind of look back at the Clinton years with rose-colored glasses the Obama years are still to the DNC base. It's still

it was the first black president. He was incredibly charismatic and excellent public speaker. They're still going to look back with fondness on the Obama years. George W Bush. You just can't. There's just no defending it. Like there's no way to look back on George W. Bush and you're just kind of like, okay, we got hit on 9 11. It didn't defend the country. Then he as response to it launched two catastrophic disastrous wars that went on for decades. And then he ended with the worst financial crisis in a hundred years There's just no spinning it. There's no reason why you would look back on it favorably. There's no there's just there's there's no nostalgia There's nothing it's just like what a disaster So I don't think even if Trump wasn't the nominee even if it was like someone who really loved George W Bush, I just don't think you'd see him at those conventions. Or if you had someone with that worldview,

I don't think they could possibly make a substantial run. Like Lindsey Graham. Yes, I guess if Lindsey Graham was the, if we lived in a world where Lindsey Graham was the Republican nominee for president, then yes, he could roll out Trump and Cheney and say, we're gonna be the strongest America you've ever seen. But you'll never get there because it's so unpopular

No, I mean Lindsey Graham ran for president in 2016 and yeah, he's got nothing Now look all those guys the Marco Rubio and Jeb Bush and Lindsey Graham and all the people who ran as Neocon Hawks Chris Christie, you know both this time and in 2016 and Nikki Haley who this year who got unbelievable amounts of institutional money and support just completely collapsed no one no one on the Republican the Republican voting base has just completely rejected all of that stuff so you know still got lots of problems but you know thank God for small miracles at least at least there's that all right guys let's take a moment and thank our sponsor for today's show which is My Patriot Supply. I love this sponsor

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Oh, they had Steve Kerr also spoke yesterday. Did you catch that? No, I skipped that. Just because who cares? He got some basketball coach up there who wants to talk about, I don't care. I could care less about. He does not affect our political process in any meaningful way.

So as to what he said one way or the other, I could care less. I did not watch one minute of his speech. I just find it. I find it funny. Well, you know, it was in Chicago at the United Center. Then he also played for the bulls like he was on Jordan's last three championship teams there. And then he went on to be a great coach. He was a great shooter and then he coached great shooters and he's won a lot and he just went on the Olympics. I did great. I could care less about what you have to say at a sure sure thing. No, of course Yeah, no, it's just kind of I don't know There's just kind of something kind of funny about um, like the type of celebrities Democrats versus Republicans get right

Like it's just like Steve Kerr is such a like Democrat. Oh, look, we got this celebrity He was a former professional athlete and then the Republicans are like we got motherfucking kid rock, dude That's what we're bringing out here Hulk Hogan's coming up next if you're talking at the DNC you're coming out of the closet is lame So you basically just let me know you're a celebrity that's uninteresting and doesn't have an actual political opinion and for some reason is Going yeah, I'm part of the establishment too. I'll pledge allegiance same as everyone else cool I guess that's the information I needed to know my cool

So my like and I'm not saying like I exactly believe this I'm just saying it's like my my first thought on it is always like if You're if you're like kid rock or Hulk Hogan or like one of the people speaking at the RNC I always assume right away. I'm like, alright, this guy's like doesn't read a lot doesn't know a lot of stuff But he loves you know what? I mean like he loves his beer and he loves his hunting and he loves his country And so he's just like I'm a Republican. That's where I am And if you speak at the DNC my first thought is like you did something bad and they know

about it. They got some dirt on you, Steve Kerr. What were you doing, bro? What were you doing back in the hotel after those bowls games? Like I had a big shot. I go hang out with these chicks. My buddy Jeffrey Ebs didn't set me up with them. Does this go a whole week? It's a Thursday as the last night. So it's tonight, Wednesday and Thursday night. What's that? A TV week, Monday to Thursday. A part of the problem week, if you will. Yes, it goes, it goes a full part of the problem cycle.

Anyway, hold on. I thought I had one more thought that somehow is just a, I'm kind of forgetting now. Anyway. Okay. I'm kind of forgetting now. Anyway, okay. So yeah, I guess, you know, I think Obama will give a probably very well-delivered, high-falutin speech about, you know, America's future and how we're at a crossroads and democracy is on the line and all of that stuff. I'm not super interested in anything really other than Kamala Harris's speech, just because that can have an impact.

I don't think much is gonna come out of this convention, to be honest. I think Kamala Harris will give a speech. She will pull it off. She's not bad at reading a teleprompter. She'll be fine. She's gonna say all the things that you know that she's going to say already. She's a prosecutor. Donald Trump's a felon threats to democracy.

We're not going back. Not going back. Fight. We win. Yeah. Stuff like that. And we should embrace communism. She'll probably throw that out there too. Um, just kidding. Don't expect her to say that. By the way, it was pretty funny. So I saw you did our buddy Clint Russell's show a little bit, and you guys were talking about the whole, the little Twitter feud that I got in with James Lindsay there a couple days ago over whether or not this is good to call Kamala Harris a communist or Marxist or whatever. And it was, listen, she did come out for price controls like the next day. So that didn't help my cause very much.

But I still I still stand by what I was saying there. And I think you I think you kind of like summarized it fairly reasonably. But you know, I, I got to say, I see, I don't know, did you see Donald Trump like posted that image of Kamala Harris with like a hammer and sickle flag or whatever? I just watched that and I'm just like, I, first of, I just think this is a, I think it's bad politics. I don't think it's a good strategy for Donald Trump. I think it comes off as very removed from reality. Whatever theories some people might have out there about how they're all secret Marxists

or something like that, I just don't think that reads to the room well. Like people looking at it are like, kind of like, I don't know, that just seems conspiratorial and crazy. You sound like a grandpa. It's the you literally sound like it's you sound like it's a conversation. My grandfather is having with his friends about who's a Marxist or something like that. And I also just think it's a it's just not true. That's not really what they are. There's not you listen.

Kamala Harris is not going to do anything that's bad for big business. Just like Joe Biden didn't do anything that's bad for big business. They're not about to have some traditional Marxist revolution. And then people will say, well, no, not traditional Marxism, but like this neo Marxism, which essentially, whenever you look at it, is just fascism. It's just corporatism and it's not, you know, per, you know, like I watched some of these people like who are all trying to make it one conspiracy or the other. Uh, it's like, no,

what happened was that the Maoists figured out a new communist model where they would have, you know, some business and but the corporations would be controlled by the state and all of this. And it's like, what do you mean? You mean the American model that's been happening since the progressive Erica since the progressive era that predates the Maoist model by like 50 years? Like what what do you say? They figured that out.

The truth is that what's what really happened is that pretty much all of the communist countries with few exceptions, but pretty much all of the communist countries figured out at a certain point that their model didn't work and that you needed to have some prices and some business. So you need, you need to have some prices and some business. So you need to have some markets essentially, but they wanted to maintain state power and state control. And that's kind of essentially what happened in China, right? Is that they were like, okay, this isn't working. It's leading to grinding poverty.

Let's allow some business, but we'll still have a very authoritarian government that can kind of regulate all of it. And then the more free market countries Just became more and more interventionist And so we all kind of met in the middle and then this awful middle where we have very interventionist large powerful governments with a market that is allowed to operate with heavy regulation under that like authoritarian government So if you want to describe that as Marxist, okay, fine.

The problem then is that, if you want to actually get into the technical argument of why Kamala Harris is a Marxist, as I saw some people on Twitter wanting to argue with me about, it's like, okay, but then so is Donald Trump So that's kind of the problem you have there Then the thing is that yeah our whole model is then if you consider this Marxist and of course in order to call it Marxist you have to say it's Marxist But not what Karl Marx wrote

Exactly, you know what? I mean like it's a different version of that if you want to call that neo-marxism fine You know what I mean? Like it's a different version of that if you want to call that neo-marxism fine But just to be clear then Kamala Harris and Donald Trump and George Bush and Barack Obama and Bill Clinton and Ronald Reagan and Richard Nixon Who did actually have price controls? They're all Marxists. Okay So now the term has kind of lost its punch and Donald Trump can't really use it against Kamala Harris And then to the point that you were making on Clint show go tell tell people on the left that Kamala Harris is a socialist, but it's probably gonna make them like her more and

That's a problem in my opinion, but that's the truth Whereas if you tell people what she's actually doing, which Donald Trump, it's so obvious, should be saying, is that she's a tool of the establishment and a big business. People on the left are not going to like that. People on the right will hate that every bit as much. And now you don't sound like a grandpa. You sound like somebody who's actually talking about what's going on today. And by the way, you can back it up with example after example after example. So why why were they so all in on vaccine mandates? Well, it wasn't to

usher in a Marxist utopia. Right? What was it? It was to ensure giant profits for giant pharmaceutical companies. So isn't that more damning than just like some label of you're a communist in some way that you can't really prove? I don't know. I just think it's bad. It's not right and it's a bad angle for them to go down. And like, I don't know, they're every bit as evil as communists, but there's something different. I don't know. Any other thoughts on that, Rob? Uh, I don't think so. Well, I'll just add even on the food thing with the price controls, which I guess is clearly a socialist policy, and we know one that will fail. I mean, we know that that's either going to lead to rationing or a worsening of the quality of the food that you're

able to consume. There's really no other avenue for the way that price control will play out in reality. She's not talking about taking over all the farms. She's not talking about government owning all of the production of the food industry. So it's still, correct me if I'm wrong, I guess that's it's technically inaccurate to say that that yeah again it's we might be getting into semantics here but like yeah it's what they would argue is that a lot of communist country did that and then ultimately nationalized all the stuff I don't see anything like that happening here I don't even think that this price control thing I think it's just a campaign slogan to be honest it's just a thing to say

I'll lower prices there's been no move to be honest. It's just a thing to say, I'll lower prices. There's been no move to do that under the Biden administration. I doubt there would be under Kamala Harris. I meant to conduct my own poll, or we had a little family thing on Sunday, and I like just asking my smart, educated, white relatives questions like,

so hey, if you have friends that are concerned about prices, do you think Kamala Harris saying that grocery stores can't rise prices will help them? And I'm just, that's a pretty open-ended question. What's your opinion on this? Do you think that this is helpful policy or not to get a little bit of a feel for what voters think about these things that sound good? Oh, government's gonna step in and say you can't charge me anymore? that sounds great. That sounds like that would really help me. So sometimes I'm just curious where people are at and I forgot to ask them. But I'm still curious to pose that question to some

common mom and folks voters because I would venture to guess that there's a level of education here that I don't think price controls are attractive to most people on like unless they honestly believe that there's rigging of the prices which is usually because some of some sort of a government policy that's limited competition. It's really interesting to me because of course this is one of the things that, um, it happens a lot, particularly on the left, not exclusively. Um, but it happens particularly on the left where people, when they're talking about economics, they get into kind of this like a, like mysticism almost.

It's like as if you're, you're talking about how you would like things to be, you know, like, and you're like, well, I would like things to be, you know, like, and you're like, well, I would like prices to be cheaper. So like, yeah, why not have a law that says prices need to be cheap? And there's, there's a lot of mistakes that people make around economics in general. And usually it is because they're fundamentally thinking about it in the wrong way. So in the same sense that like if you were describing the laws of nature, if you were just describing like the way the universe works

or something like that, you, you couldn't, you can't start with like how you'd like it to be. Right. It's just, that's totally irrelevant. Like how you'd like it to be. It's like, well, I'd, you know, if we were like, okay So gravity is this force that holds people, you know, like pulls people toward a large massive object or whatever and You were like, well, I'd like to be able to just float around It's like but you're just you're having a different conversation that I'm having right now man Like we're not in the realm of like how we'd like it to be we're in the realm of you know

Like and and also I think when people talk about economics, they often think of it like if you're on the other side, they think of it like a science like chemistry or something like that. We're really I think it's much closer to logic. It's just like logically think about this for a second. And it is unbelievable how how economically illiterate you have to be to not reject price controls. Like I'm not saying any of this is going to happen. I highly doubt it. Well, it's

campaign rhetoric. You can usually take that with a grain of salt. But there is something about like, if you just attack it logically for a second, you know, like just like start reducto absurdum this stuff like, okay, so you you think we should have price controls, so that say grocery stores can't charge too much. Okay, well, if that's a good solution, why don't we just legislate that it's all free? That's even better than your price controls, right? Instead of legislating that it has to be sold at a low price, why not legislate that you have to give it out for free? How do you think that would work? Take me through that. Do you see any problems? And then that what would actually happen if

you legislated that a company had to give away a product? I think they'd probably stop carrying that product because there's no reason for them to sell it anymore right and so okay so that same problem applies maybe not as drastically but the same problem applies to the logic of having price controls at all if you're going to make people sell something for less than they want to sell it for they'll simply stop selling that thing that's this that's the solution to get around it and there are even in our crony system if you want to argue that like Well, no, they're just selling this at such a high price

But they still could be making a profit under you know at a lower price or something like that The problem with that is just that there's if that's the case Then there's such a giant opening in the market for someone to come in and steal all of that business. And this has been demonstrated just like it's not only that it makes sense logically, but it's been demonstrated empirically time and time again. And in fact, it's demonstrated all over the place. Like every single time, if you just go into a corner store today and you go to get some milk

I don't know what milk costs these days, but you pay a few bucks for some milk and Believe me that guy at the corner store would rather charge you a thousand dollars for that milk He would rather you give him a thousand dollars than you give him five dollars for the milk So if he's greedy, why doesn't he just charge a thousand dollars? well, cuz he can't cuz he'd go out of business because there's a lot of other places that are charging less. And if somebody was charging $1,000 for milk, very quickly somebody else would come along and go, I'll give it to you for 900.

And some will go, I'll give it to you for 800 because there's so much profit to be made there that you just steal their business away. So if you can count on one thing in this world, it's that companies are driven by wanting to make money. This problem solves itself and price controls are only going to make it worse. Of course, the reason why we have such high prices is because the government has printed trillions and trillions of dollars over the last few years and started giving them giving it out to try initially to mask the pain of Lockdowns and then to try to give the impression that the economy was roaring back after That's the issue banks without people complaining. Yep

Pretty much on the topic of price controls. I don't even think she was getting good press from the left media. No, she didn't. She wasn't. I don't think she'll get away with that because even the left is on board with, hey, this is a really dumb policy to the point that I think she'll likely just walk it back because particularly in a bait, if she tries to... The left loves this magical line of, yeah, too much regulation is bad, but not enough regulation is... but we can find the secret little magical...

No, we've never done it in the past, but there's the ability to find the magical middle ground that we never seem to find. And so she's going to try the same pitch with, no, it's not that we need price controls, it's that we got to get it in the way of what should be a legal price gouging. All right, well, what particular item do you think is overpriced because of illegal price gouging? And why do you think that competitors haven't been able to step into the market and then steal the profits from the people who are overly, I mean, I guess overpricing their items? What specific items are you talking about? And how do you think your policy actually leads to rationing? It's so incoherent to like,

how do you even objectively define what is price gouging? What is, you know what I mean? Like what is too high? What is not high enough? Like what, how do you even determine this? It's all just a, it's a complete, and this is why I said it's like the way people look about these things. It's a completely like emotional feelings based argument. Like everyone, everyone that holds a tech stock that won't sell it to me for less money is price gouging me for the way that their their tech stock has gone up or their homes. I'd love to own a home, but all these people trying to sell me their

price gouging me. Can you believe 300% higher than just before the pandemic and when you printed me money and because you bought it then and not now you get to Charge me this much profit. It's all the same and it's the same in reverse It's the same as when like unions complain about scabs or something like that like there he's undercutting the workers You know, it's oh you're you're charging too little so you'll get in trouble for charging little. You'll get in charge for charging too much. It's all, but it's all just emotional nonsense. It's like, there is no correct price for anything. The price is what people are willing to pay for the thing.

And then you come to a voluntary agreement. It's like, you know what I'm saying? Like if they'll just be like, I always found that so ridiculous when like union workers will, will be like, Oh, the scabs come and they undercut the, the union workers. And I'm always like, like just logically, it's like the way my mind works. I'm always like, well, you're all undercutting me, you know? Cause like, honestly, like I'd go do if, if, uh, if somebody offered me $50 million to go do a union job for a year. I would take that. I'd go. I'd go do that for a year.

Just be $50 million, man. I got to do that for my family. Dig a hole on the side of the road. Just be the guy who stands there and holds it. Well, but I'm just saying. So if you're going to say this guy's undercutting you, it's like, well, you're undercutting me. I was going to do it for $50 million.

And you came in and accepted 70 grand. But now you're turning around to the guy who accepts 50 grand and going, how dare you undercut me? It's all just ridiculous. It's all like, this is all completely pulled out of your ass. It's just what you want the outcome to be. Anyway, the answer is stop debasing our currency and then prices won't go so crazy. All right, let's wrap up there. Obviously obviously we'll cover the rest of the DNC if anything

important happens we'll be the first to let you know. Thanks for listening. Catch you next time. Peace.