Part Of The Problem - Post Election Thoughts
Episode Date: November 9, 2024Dave Smith brings you the latest in politics! On this episode of Part Of The Problem, Dave is joined by co-host Robbie "The Fire" Bernstein to discuss their takes on the election results, wha...t was expected and surprising, specific issues that won the election for Trump or lost it for Harris, and so much more.Part Of The Problem is available for early pre-release at https://partoftheproblem.com as well as an exclusive episode on Thursday!Support Our SponsorsZbiotics - https://zbiotics.com/potpSheath - https://sheathunderwear.com use promo code PROBLEM20Lumen - https://www.lumen.me/PROBLEM for 15% offGet your tickets to Porch Tour Herehttps://porchtour.comFind Run Your Mouth here:YouTube - http://youtube.com/@RunYourMouthiTunes - https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/run-your-mouth-podcast/id1211469807Spotify - https://open.spotify.com/show/4ka50RAKTxFTxbtyPP8AHmFollow the show on social media:X:http://x.com/ComicDaveSmithhttp://x.com/RobbieTheFireInstagram:http://instagram.com/theproblemdavesmithhttp://instagram.com/robbiethefire#libertarianSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
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What's up everybody welcome to a brand new episode of Part of the Problem. I am Dave Smith. He is Robbie the Fireburnstein. I am tired. How is everybody doing? Whoo, what
a few days it has been. And of course we had to jump on here and get an episode in to talk about the results
of the election and all of the ensuing craziness.
How are you doing Rob?
I'm excited for Poughkeepsie in Philadelphia.
I already got some new jokes about this new administration so I'm excited to get back
out there and be in front of an audience.
Yeah dude we got two shows tonight And I'll, you know, I
didn't. I did when I booked these gigs, I did not exactly
plan on having the week that I was having maybe not the best.
I mean, don't get me wrong, I'm excited to I really do love
laugh it up. Me and you have been going there.
Our third year now, our third year going back. So we love
this place. So it's a really fun club and I,
the staff and the owner, they're all very cool and I'm looking forward to going up
there tonight. But man, I am a, yeah, I'm beat up. I've been traveling quite a bit
and going on very, very little sleep and it's starting. I feel like it's starting
to hit me now, you know, cause like you're doing these big shows. It's kind of like
the energy of that
kind of carries you through it.
But now as I'm like sitting here,
I'm like, whew, all right, this is a lot.
I find when I'm out, it's like man on a mission
and none of the tiredness hits me
because of the anxiety of all the things
that you have to show up to and that.
And the second I close the door of my apartment,
it just hits me all at once and I just crash.
Well, so what happened?
Okay, so what happened to me is I had that moment, but I was at the Comedy Mothership.
And so I was at, so I went out on election day, I went to Fort Lauderdale.
I mean, if you guys probably saw the shows, but so I went to Fort Lauderdale to to do the Patrick Bitt David show. And so two days before I'm doing that, Rogan texts
me and he goes, Dude, you want to come on the podcast on Wednesday and do the post election
show. And
an honor to get that spot. And my god, did you crush it? And we can get to it. But some
of the things that you brought up and threw a trump for him to contend
with was very important well thank you and yeah I mean I would obviously that's
I had to go do it when Joe asked you know and also I was honored even though
I've been on the show so many times it was very cool that he thought of me to
want to be on that episode and of course it was in a string of episodes that was
like you know it was like Trump JD Vanceance, Fetterman, Elon Musk, Tim Dillon, and then me, how could I not do that? However,
I had already committed to doing the Patrick Bette David show till three in the morning.
And so I was like, okay. And so I was like, all right, now I got to get from, you know,
from there to Austin and we're doing, we're recording the show at 1 p.m.
So I stayed there till three in the morning.
And then, of course, there were no flights from Fort Lauderdale
that that got me to Austin on time.
And this is only a few days, you know, notice here.
And so, so I had to go to Miami, uh, which is like an hour.
Um, so then I lose another hour.
So it was basically just no hope of getting any sleep at this point sat in a
goddamn middle seat and coach.
Cause that's all that was available.
Um, so it's not even like, you know, you like, there's an option to sleep
it on the plane or anything. It's just anyway. So, but you
know, I'm going to do fucking Joe Rogan experience the day after Donald Trump is reelected. So
who cares? You know, you'll sleep when you're dead is the attitude I'm going to do that.
And I had a lot of shit that I wanted to say. So then I go do that. So we record, we're
done me and him hang out and bullshit. I think he was running a little bit late. And then we talked for a little while before we started. So by the time we're done me and him hang out and bullshit I think he was running a little bit late and then we talked for a little while before we started
So by the time we're done with the podcast, it's like five
So then we finished the podcast and then he goes, uh, um, you know, he was like, oh, I'm gonna go by the club tonight
You know and I was like, okay. Yeah
I'm definitely gonna go do some fucking stand-up at the best comedy club in the in the world and hang out with
Rogan and Tony and all those guys Ron White and all those guys and I'm definitely gonna go do some fucking stand-up at the best comedy club in the in the world and hang out with
Rogan and Tony and all those guys Ron White and all those guys and
So but then it's like like I'm now, you know, like when you're up all night
It's like you're you start entering this like there was no option to like go nap
It's like if I go to sleep now, I'm I'll be dead in a couple hours. So there's no way I can do that.
So then I go, so I do a spot on the mothership show and then on the early show.
And then I went back in the green room,
I was bullshitting with Joe and Tony for awhile, had a couple drinks.
And then there was like the late show was starting. And that was when I went,
they went, Oh, you want to do a spot on the late show? And I was like, no, no, no, no, no. I've like, you know, you really just like it hit me and it was all there in public in front of people.
It wasn't like I was at home, close the door, but I was just,
you get that feeling where it's almost like you're like walking on clouds kind
of, you know what I mean?
Like when you just haven't slept and you just start feeling all off.
And so then I went and then just like passed out like death and then I had
to wake up to go do Alex Jones show.
I'll wake you up though.
One night of sleep.
That's like an alarm clock in your face, you know?
Yeah, no, no, no. There's no way you're not, you're going to be fine for that time. But
anyway, so yeah, back home. I was very happy to be back home, get a little bit of time
with the wife and kids. And now we're back out to the kids. Maybe this is a inappropriate on air on the spot question. I caught a bit of the
AJ episode while it was live and it was great. It seemed like he was tempered and
he even claimed that he listened to the show, which was cool. I get,
let you get some fine talking points across behind the scenes.
What was that like rolling into that studio and meeting him and all that?
Behind the scenes what was that like rolling into that studio and meeting him and all that?
You know I There wasn't much I didn't really interact with him much off-air
He was already recording she does got a show so he's on when I came in
so I went it for they have a crazy setup beautiful studio and
a crazy setup, beautiful studio.
And about to be owned by the folks of Connecticut.
Well, yeah, it looks like that's I think they're getting shut down pretty soon.
But but I think he'll continue, you know, to do a show and to be huge.
But yeah, so he was already doing the show.
And then when we wrapped, he continued the show.
So we just like during some commercial breaks because he's on radio, like so that he has commercial breaks, like
we bullshitted a little bit. But he was great. I mean, he was, you know, he was at his, at
his Alex Jones best, I kind of felt like when I was was there with him. And he's he loved
everything I had to say and stuff so it was like, yeah,
I don't know, it was cool. It was interesting, I've never met him before and he definitely
like, you know, I don't know how much he actually listens to the show or not but he definitely
like knew us and he was excited, he was in. So that was cool. It was all a very cool experience.
I thought the coolest thing of the Rogan and everybody still go check out my special
It's still up. We're getting some views on it responsive response has been good
Robbie the fire live from the Denver Comedy Garage not an actual place
the fact that right after the election you were able to get ahead of Trump making announcements and
put out into the world that he has to make good on his promise of actually freeing Ross and
That he needs to make better appointments and specifically not allow Mike Pompeo in.
The big name on the list that seems like, well,
it seems to me just based off of the way he was utilizing him at the end of the campaign,
and he's such a dumbass and he's such a war hawk,
but it looks like maybe Marco Rubio is going to be the deep state representative in the administration.
But I just thought that that was an incredible moment that you were able to put into the
world on a very large stage of, hey, no Mike Pompeo and go speak to Rand Paul for some
better appointments.
I, you know, I think it was about 30 seconds after Joe texted me and asked me to do the show
that I was like that's what I'm gonna do. It was like you know if and and I was
really hoping that it was all said it was done because I didn't know if I you
know it was a very weird situation to be going into doing Rogan's show on such a big day, which, like, again,
I've done the show a lot of times, but this is kind of a unique thing. But to go, I've
never done the show before where I was going in being almost like, oh shit, so in my mind,
I almost have to like, think, okay, there's like three scenarios that it, this could be Donald Trump just got elected.
This could be Kamala Harris just got elected, or this could be we still don't know. And like,
you had to be very ready. And there was no question it was obvious that I was like,
best case scenario, Donald Trump wins on election day. And then I can go and have all this kind of like
Leverage to be like hey, you know you promised this your mandate is this also
And this is one of the reasons why I ultimately ended up
You know throwing my support behind Donald Trump is that there's this group around him of people who are very influential
On him who I'm fairly influential on
Like you know like which is okay, it's not perfect.
It's not, but it's like, you know, the vague Ramaswami and Tucker
Carlson and Bobby Kennedy and a lot of these guys, they listen to
what I have to say.
And they're also like, they agree with me on this.
And so that's what I've been doing both publicly and privately is trying
to just get everybody, cause now this is the move everybody
pressure as much as you can to not make the same mistakes as the first time and keep the goddamn Warhawks out of his
Administration and I don't know if we'll be successful at that, but at least with Trump there's something to work with there
You know, there's something to
Maybe he'll listen to some of these people,
you know. So yeah, that was that was kind of my game plan going into it. And I like
I tried as many times as I could to call Mike Pompeo Liz Cheney's pick for defense secretary.
But anyway, yeah, so look, let's let's talk about the election. Let's talk about the election. Um, let's talk about the response to it and how it all went down a bit.
I mean, look, obviously we've been talking about this election for, you know,
I mean, a couple of years, I guess now, but we've really focused on this
for the last few months.
And, uh, I guess it. So like my first thing that I
would say, right, is it on our last episode, and on several
episodes before that, I had made the point that every indicator
that you can actually observe with your senses was telling you
that Trump's going to run away with this in a landslide. Like
that's what it you know what I mean? Like that's it was just so obvious that like this is
the culture has moved, his support has moved, the amount of people publicly
supporting him has moved. All of these things while she's just terrible and no
there's no enthusiasm there. I mean she didn't have a fraction of the
enthusiasm that Hillary Clinton had.
And she had trouble getting enthusiasm.
And yet, the polls are telling you it's neck and neck.
It's the closest election of our lifetime, all of this stuff.
And so there was something kind of satisfying about being like,
oh, OK, it was actually the scenario that it seemed to be.
And once that happened, and look, I will say,
I was worried about deep state shenanigans,
let's say, through this whole time.
I had said many different times,
I'm not sure they will allow him back in.
To be fair, that prediction has not failed yet.
He's not back in, but looks pretty bad.
I did say though on the last episode
that you had essentially won me over
and that your prediction seemed to be better.
It just looked like Trump was gonna win.
I did not think he would win in the landslide
that he won in.
I really just thought it was impossible
in today's polarized political environment
to win a landslide like that.
But he is, I mean, he dominated, you know?
I mean, there's just no other way to put it.
I mean, he just like absolutely crushed her.
Not just winning a few of the swing states that he needed to
win, but like winning the popular vote and all of that.
I mean, that was pretty wild. And so when you see that, when you see,
you know, this, okay, that is what it was. What we observed is reality. And clearly he,
you know, was way, way out ahead of her. There's a lot of things that we could point to. So by the way,
as of right now, I'm checking the latest results. Donald Trump is up by I think four plus million
in the popular vote. He has 295 electoral votes, but Arizona and excuse me sorry hold on shoot no sorry I got to
get back to this but so Arizona still has not been called yet and Nevada has
still not been called yet and Trump is winning in both of those so it looks
like he's gonna be well north of 300 electoral votes when this is all said
and done and have won the popular vote by millions. This is a mandate unlike
anything Trump ever had. This isn't 2016 where he lost the popular vote by
millions of votes and just won you know the counties that he needed to win by
the thinnest of margins. This was a dominant, dominant performance. And when you see that, look, there's a lot that can be said here.
There's a lot that you can talk about about what really happened.
And a lot of what happened here was something that is very interesting and new and kind of a revolution, to some degree, in the way presidential campaigns are run.
Um, but then there's also some just really conventional things that are like,
oh yeah, of course.
Like, of course this wasn't going to work.
I mean, like very, very basic things like, um, she was uniquely terrible,
uniquely terrible.
she was uniquely terrible, uniquely terrible. Look, everybody, you almost go back to the fact that
for four years now, shows like ours
and other shows that were being honest in this space
and just people who you know, who were talking about this,
were talking about Joe Biden's cognitive state.
It was very obvious from at least 2019
that Joe Biden was in some type of severe cognitive decline.
And the idea, and obviously it got much worse
over those years, but the idea of could he do a second term
just seemed like there's not like there was
not enough mileage in that car you know what I mean like you're you're talking
about a car with like 400,000 miles on it and you're planning a cross-country
trip it'd be crazy if it never came into your head you know I'm not so sure this
thing's gonna make it that you know like I don't know we might have some issues with this and when when people would think about that all of us
would go maybe it's Gavin Newsom maybe it's Gretchen Whitmore maybe it's
Michelle Obama we started going to non politicians in our head while she is the
sitting vice president she is the obvious vice president. She is the obvious choice.
You know what I mean? She's the obvious next in line. And still all of us just skipped
over her because, well, she's so terrible. There's no way you could run her and win.
So they'd have to go with someone else. Now, the Democrats and Joe Biden obviously, not
just in hindsight, but you could tell this in real time, made an enormous mistake,
or maybe a mistake isn't even exactly the way to put it,
but all of the different incentives lined up to that,
if you view the thing as a machine, as one entity,
that it was like either Joe Biden had to announce
that he wasn't running again, or he had to run again.
But what you couldn't do is have him go all the way late
into the campaign, have the entire media
and the entire political apparatus cover for him,
not have a primary, shut RFK down,
not have anybody else run against him,
and then swear that there's
absolutely no problem and he's sharp as a tack, have the most disastrous debate
performance in the history of presidential televised debates, and then
throw this extraordinarily weak candidate in at the fourth quarter to
not even have enough time to do it, and then just try to gaslight the country
and tell you that she's hope and joy
And wonderful obviously in hindsight
That's a disaster of a strategy and it doesn't need to even be this bold new world
Which it is by the way, I'm not like that's an element of it, too
But even in any conventional traditional year if I just showed you that on paper you go
Oh, that's a disaster
That candidates going to lose, that's a disaster.
That candidate's going to lose. So that is a huge part of this, you know?
Kind of can't get away from it.
I think that is a fair summary
of their choice to go with Kamala Harris.
Now, another element here,
and this is just kind of conventional politics,
Donald Trump picked a VP that was an asset
that brought something.
Well, not at first.
He rallied. He rallied in the fourth quarter.
Well, look, what I'm saying is that
JD Vance did a very good
job on Joe Rogan.
JD Vance did some CNN interviews
where he did a good job.
He has some strengths that Donald Trump doesn't have
He's smarter than Donald Trump. He's more well read than Donald Trump. He is however you feel about JD Vance
JD Vance, you know his story that they made that movie yet or the book in the movie out of
JD Vance is a guy who was raised by a single mom who was a drug addict came from nothing and
was a Marine and a venture capitalist and a senator and just on paper, that's a kind of
impressive person. She picked a VP who brought absolutely
nothing to the table. She picked someone who like it's like as
if the only criteria was you can't outshine me. And that's
who they went with. I think that also really hurt her
Um, and when they said they were gonna run the joy campaign, they needed to find a gay guy
Right exactly, I guess you're right. So they tried they had to make it a pride campaign
But yeah, so like like that was really bad, you know on top of all of that, of course she was, you know, an extraordinarily terrible candidate.
And there's really like, there's really no other way you can,
you can say it. I, she was just profoundly bad at this.
Um, and then of course there is the fact that Donald Trump did something.
I mentioned this on Rogan the other day, but there...
So, and this is kind of interesting to me too, because I, you know,
for people who have followed the show and followed us for years,
obviously, if you're familiar with like what we did with the Mises Caucus
and the Libertarian Party and all of that, This was something that was on my mind in 2020.
This was something that I was heavily critical
of the Joe Jorgensen campaign for not doing in 2020
or making any attempt to do, that it's just like,
because it was so obvious,
it's not like some brilliant insight on my part,
but it was like, hey, like obviously CNN and Fox News
like, hey, like, obviously, CNN and Fox News and MSNBC and the New York Times and the Washington Post and the Associated Press and all that, they are not going to like, in any reasonably
fair way, shine a light on any campaign that is truly anti-establishment. That's not going to happen.
However, we live in a new world
where there's shows on the internet,
where you actually get a lot more time
and don't have to worry about six minute segments
with commercial breaks afterward,
where you could talk and discuss ideas for hours and hours,
and they get way more views than those.
And it's like, obviously, that's the path forward is to rally on all of these shows.
And like so the libertarian candidate or any anti-regime candidate
isn't going to get a fair shake on CNN, but they sure might get one on Joe Rogan
and not just Joe Rogan, but, you know, Tim Poole and Patrick Bette David and,
you know, whatever all of these shows.
And. Really, you know, whatever all of these, you know shows and
Really, you know the vague Rama Swami and
Bobby Kennedy Were the first two presidential campaigns who ever went like oh, we're gonna use that strategy
We're gonna go talk to these people
I mean who cares if the show like who cares if the show is part of the problem dot com or on YouTube or on
CNN, the whole game is how many people are watching. That's all
that matters. And more people are watching these. So why not
go do all these shows? And Donald Trump was followed in
their footsteps. He was the only major party candidate who's
ever used that strategy. He went on a ton of podcasts and she didn't. She went on
the one call her daddy one. It was boring and flopped and didn't get that many views on it.
And then she was scared to go on Rogan. And like that is a huge part of this story. And I'm not
saying that's all, but that was a big part of it. Donald, you know, there is.
This is one of the most amazing things about this campaign.
And even if Donald Trump's second term is every bit as bad as his first term, even if it's worse than his first term, which, by the way, is a real possibility.
Um, but even if that's the case, I think that the precedent has now been set that you are
going to have to run a candidate who could do a three-hour podcast, like who could sit
and have something to say.
You know, it's, it's you, listen, I know this because I've done a lot of cable news hits
over the years. Like I've
done hundreds and hundreds of appearances on cable news. I mean I you
know I worked for for Essie Cup over at CNN for a year and did regular you know
like three or four times a week I would do you know segments on her show and
then for many many years I did Kennedy and red Red Eye and Gutfeld and I've done a bunch of other ones as well and I am telling you
because I know these people when you turn on cable news you see the little
you know a panel and it's a 10-minute maybe segment I know a lot of those
people I've hung out with them I've went and got beers with them after the show. I've hung out in the green room
with them. I 80% of them don't have three hours worth of stuff
to say. They'd run out. They they in I was always amazed by
this. They in the cable news segment, in their five minutes
that maybe they get on air they repeat themselves they just say
talking points they just because there is nothing deeper they don't actually
have anything to say you know um you just it's a whole different game to say
do what we do where we're doing we do four episodes a week. We do four hours of content every single week on this by the end of the,
you know, uh, that's, I don't know,
several hundred hours a year of content that we put out. That's,
you have to have a lot of things to say in order to do, to do that.
And Kamala Harris doesn't have that. She, it's not, it, it wasn't,
cause I just want to be clear here. It wasn't a foolish decision to not do Joe Rogan's podcast.
It was a wise decision if Kamala Harris is your, you know, is your candidate.
In the same way that like if a five-year-old is your boxer and he's going up against another
boxer, the wise
decision is to throw the towel in immediately, right? Now that's not a good
strategy to win a fight, but it is the best strategy given the reality that you
have a five-year-old fighting a professional boxer. Kamala Harris does
not have three hours worth of things to say. She tries to say nothing through a
15-minute interview. She tries to just fill space.
She's got nothing.
She doesn't have views on issues.
She doesn't think about public policy and read newspapers and have opinions about the
latest conflict in whatever region of the world.
She doesn't have any of that.
What was she going to do?
And so I think the precedent that's been set now is that you have to have a candidate who has a mind. That doesn't mean they have to be perfect or
they have to have the right answers or even be a good candidate, but they have
to be able to do that and that in itself is a tremendous step forward and like I
think one that just can't be overstated. Yeah, it's an interesting point
and you think about all of the names
that it just eliminates from being able
to run in the future.
Like for example, Biden couldn't have done that,
Biden would have been out.
Or if you look at the old feel of Democrats,
Klobuchar couldn't get through that,
Bernie Sanders actually could.
Who else ran with Hillary Clinton?
Kane, Tim Kane was Hillary Clinton's VP.
No, not the not the VP. I'm just saying it's interesting to
think about the field of people that would get eliminated in
that format. And then at least you'd be although you still
have your lying scumbags and whatnot, you get the at least
the more impressive level of them. Like amongst, for example, the Republicans, what's his name, who I don't particularly
like, but the Senator from, like Rand Paul can handle three hours, he's an actual person,
or Ted Cruz is smart enough, he can handle three hours without a problem.
But some of the less impressive people who are teleprompter people
would all fall to the wayside.
Yeah. Well, that's right. That's right. And even that is that's a good start, at least,
you know? Yeah. It's a good start, at least like get these dummies out of here. Like you
can't just do that. You can't just have the mouthpiece for you know what I mean? Like
the like I'm just I have nothing to say. I'm just here to be a shill.
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Let's get back into the show. Um, of course the other, you know,
I think big story. Well, look, the other, you know, I think big story.
Well, look, I mean, the other thing is that there were just basic issues that I think
we've been calling out for quite a while now that ended up being really what decided this
campaign.
And it's interesting as we get some of these this exit poll data to see how you know the the machine the media
machine is trying to spin this. And of course they want to spin it in any way except recognizing
the obvious which is that they are dead. They are done. You look, what what happened here was that Donald Trump, you know, it's funny,
I saw a few and we're going to play a couple clips in a second, because of course, how
could we not?
It's just so entertaining.
But there were the way that I've seen this presented in the corporate news so far is that well it turns out the big split
isn't actually racial lines right because they have to admit that because
Donald Trump did like remarkably well particularly with the Latino vote but
they go and and you know the big split isn't even really gender
You know what they say it is now Rob
education It's education
college educated people went for Kamala Harris and people that didn't have college degrees went very
largely for Donald Trump, but like
What's just another way of saying the same thing?
Trump carried the working class. You know, like that's, that's what you're saying when you say
that just saying it in a different way than Donald Trump carried the working class. Well, why is that?
And it's the money. It's money, the inflation, the loss of purchasing power of
the dollar. Look, man, if you're the truth is, and look, this isn't 100% true. And there
are people, you know, I think I'm one of these people who like I make I make good money.
But I did spend many, many being very very broke and I also
Think I'm somewhat thoughtful and can think about what people in different situations are going through but the truth is that you know
Look, I don't particularly like inflation, you know, I've I've been robbed of some of what I earn through inflation
But you know, it hasn't really been a disaster for me.
I'm OK, you know, like that because I'm doing well, you know.
So like if my cup of coffee goes from being two dollars to being five
dollars, it's like that. That's a little annoying.
But I still go and get the coffee for five dollars and that's life.
But like, that's not true for working class people man.
And like how hard is it to just fucking take a second and empathize with that? Yeah, the
person on CNN who makes 700 grand a year. Yeah, obviously inflation doesn't really matter
that much to you. But to the guy making 60 grand a year, it's devastating. Just absolutely
devastating. And that's what they were voting on.
The economy was better for them for the first three years of Donald Trump than it was for the
entire Biden administration. And the other thing obviously is the immigration crisis. These are the
issues that we knew were going to be the big issues all went in Trump's direction. And if I'm
being completely honest, Donald Trump didn't even run that great of a campaign.
He just kind of went and did the shows, you know?
He did what Donald Trump does and he wasn't afraid to go, like, promote himself because
that's his favorite thing to do.
But he had just the fundamentals of this race were so on his side.
They were so on his side. They were so on his side.
You had a crisis with inflation and a crisis with immigration.
And there was Donald Trump.
I kind of think it's just that simple for the major factor, I
think is that simple.
I don't know. Any thoughts on any of this?
I would just put two more simple factors on the table.
And if I had to rank the things that were important to people, Any thoughts on any of this? I would just put two more simple factors on the table.
And if I had to rank the things that were important to people, what you just mentioned,
I'd put into the first two spots.
But I think factor number three is the being lied to about Joe Biden's competency.
Even though people might not have talked about it all that much, I do think that that rubbed
people the wrong way of knowing that the democratic establishment
lied to them about a return to normal that never happened
and actually putting up a world leader who had dementia,
who was not up to the task.
So I think that there was anger,
even though that wasn't spoken about all that much,
I do think that people were angry with the regime
for specifically that.
And while we're on the topic of being lied to,
I think some eyes were opened up to being lied to
over the COVID regime and that the tech censorship
is not necessarily in their favor.
And that maybe they didn't like the way the deep state
went after Donald Trump with five core cases.
But I think there was an inherent flavor of,
there's an unfairness to the way that the Democrats are screaming, yelling while and actually operating the country.
And I think that there was a big unease over the Ukraine war and the Israel war, which
is twofold of why is this money being spent abroad when we have this many problems here?
If you actually care about the American people, why is this money being spent in this way?
And a general feeling of unease of, I kind of feel a little bit less safe, and that there's a lot more tension in the world
when there doesn't have to be. And I don't know if it was any more sophisticated than that, but I think, um,
I do think that those two variables did play a, uh, a noteworthy, were noteworthy in the election.
And then when they tried to run Kamala Harris and just scream at you some more the same
as no, there's not really inflation in the supermarket.
No, you just don't like this person because you're a lady and because you have to actually
go face your own closeted bigotry that you won't let a lady be in charge or why do you
care about that we told you that she was the wrong race?
I think all of that started to resonate with people. I would absolutely agree
with you. I think that um you know for many many years at least since 2011 let's
say many level-headed reasonable people have been making the point that if you call everything sexist
and racist, the words start to lose their meaning and then you have nothing to go to
when something is actually sexist or racist, you know, like a Boy Who Cried Wolf type thing.
And once Donald Trump, you know, if you remember correctly, if you zoom out a
little bit here, so in 2012, when the corporate media was attempting to get
Barack Obama reelected, he was running against Mitt Romney, the most boring,
square, you know, just establishment guy who in truth would have governed very differently, very similarly, I should say, to how Barack Obama
governed. And you remember the binders full of women? Yep,
moment. So he's asked at one point at a debate about how he
didn't hire enough women at his company, Bay and Capital, and
he was trying to run a good company, which he did.
And there was, listen, I'm not saying.
Have you seen our profits and returns?
That's what he should have said.
Just saying it was a very successful company.
You draw whatever conclusion you want to from that.
But so he has this moment where he's asked,
how come you didn't hire more women?
And he goes, listen, we did everything we could.
We were trying to hire more women.
I specifically told my guys to hire more women.
And he said, we asked for binders full of women.
It was a clunky way to put it.
But essentially, he was saying that we
were trying to put together who are the best women
in this thing.
And they flipped out over this comment and called it sexist.
This was like a big scandal in 2012.
It made no sense whatsoever.
There was nothing offensive about the term binders full of women.
It did kind of sound clunky. And so they just ran with that.
Like I don't even know what the angle was, but it was like,
he wants to put women back in binders or whatever, you know,
like it didn't make any sense. But so then when Donald Trump came
around and he's actually saying
like grab him by the pussy and all this shit, you know, they couldn't just say sexist and
racist. I mean, they did. They said all of those things. But then it's like they had
to elevate it. This is where Nazi came in. They went to Nazi because all of the old words
like and you could feel this like the whole way
through right what they were accusing Donald Trump of being racist but they
couldn't just say racist anymore because they had called the Tea Party racist and
Herman Cain racist and Mitt Romney racist and everything was racist you had
to have a stronger word to go to so they went to Nazi but then anyway the point
that I'm building toward is that many people had been saying for
years and years and years, you're robbing all of these terms of any of their
meaning, you know? And I think what you saw in 2024 was it was almost like a
critical mass like thing where you just hit a level where these words had no value.
It had no value. You could scream every single day,
end of democracy, Hitler, Nazi, racist, sexist. No one cares.
It did not move the needle a centimeter. It's just, that's it.
People are over it. Um, so I think that was a huge part of it. Um,
I think, uh, so go ahead to go on that So I think that was a huge part of it. I think
Go ahead to go on that. I think to me
that's the thing that I feel most positive about for this new run is that the
The last time I well, I think kovat hurt Trump quite a bit and maybe the corpses voting might have hurt him as well
But I think one of the big reasons why people voted against Donald Trump had nothing to do with Donald Trump. It was that they were sick of the reaction to Donald Trump, which was the constant temper tantrum from the left and feeling like
politics had become more of their life, which was because there was a constant freak out about Donald Trump being in the Oval Office.
And it was, I don't know if you guys remember it, but it was,
it was, it was a constant. And it was why we saw more censorship and it was, I don't know if you guys remember it, but it was a constant.
And it was why we saw more censorship and the entire political climate became a lot
louder as a response and the temper tantrum to Donald Trump.
And as opposed to what usually happens with the kid having a temper tantrum, you realize
it's a temper tantrum and you don't give into it.
A lot of the country said, I just want this to stop and they affiliated the temper tantrum as being Donald Trump causing it
I think Donald Trump winning again is a rebuke of that
And so I'm hoping that in this climate the media is not gonna do it again
And if they do it they're gonna be called out for just being four-year-olds and people aren't gonna actually pin that on Donald Trump
I listen I as I've been saying for a while out for just being four-year-olds and people aren't going to actually pin that on Donald Trump.
I listen, as I've been saying for a while, I think you're right about that. I think that is what's going to happen. And I just don't I think that like the difference between then and now
is that we are so many major lies further.
You know, the big ones are Russiagate falling apart
and COVID.
And then you just can't overstate how big the COVID,
you know, even by November of 2020,
it hadn't been, like, it wasn't clear yet
to I think most people that the entire COVID thing
was a big scam and that none of
it needed to happen. It was all nonsense. Like, you know, like, I mean, there were people
who were against the lockdowns. Certainly from the perspective of two people who were
doing a pretty popular show and were, you know, huge critics of all of the COVID policies,
we knew like people were coming our way and like, there were people who were open to it, but it was still, I mean, do you, like,
just take for example, okay, which I, I, I use this as almost like, um,
I'm thinking of when you went on a Corinne Fisher's podcast and I think you were
arguing about maybe it was the vaccine or COVID policy or whatever. And it was
like, um, and I,
I just use that podcast as a stand in for completely uninformed voter,
I guess in my mind. But so when you were on that show and you're going and
talking to like normies who don't know what's going on in the world. Um,
and, and the, it was a very interesting show if nobody ever saw it,
but so you go in there and you're kind of debating the entire room,
but there was this energy about when
you would say like, Oh, yeah, the vaccines, bullshit, and the
lockdowns were bullshit and all this and the entire room is like
gasp, you know, and then you start debating them and you're
just destroying everyone like none of them know anything about
this. But you're right in there wrong. But the point I'm making
is that I don't know particularly but like, if you went back on
that show today, like that had never happened. I just don't think there'd be a gasp. I think if you
said that, like most people would go, Oh, yeah, no, none of us are still getting the vaccine for
COVID. You know what I mean? Like nobody. It's just, it was so life altering for so many people and it disrupted people's lives
so much.
And then to find out afterward that it was all bullshit, you know, that is, that's powerful.
And then even just, I mean, continuing on, there were so many different things, you know,
inflation is transitory, Ukraine is winning the war.
Biden is not senile.
I mean, that was a really big one.
That was a big one, to sit there and just lie and pretend
that what everybody can see.
I mean, again, they're in the business of propaganda.
They're in the business of lying.
But this lie was so blatant.
You know what I mean?
This lie was, I mean, I'm not exaggerating when I go
It's on the level if I just said to our entire audience right now rob is not wearing a red hat
Never rob's not wearing a red hat. I don't like the color red
Yeah, there's nobody wears red. That's a guys everybody watching the show right now. That is a far right conspiracy
That rob is wearing a red hat And you you're just like, Yeah, but I see it,
man. I would never proudly represent our underwear sponsor.
I wouldn't do that. Yeah, it's I mean, it's it's like, it was on
the level of that you're going to pretend it's Emperor's new
clothes shit, you're going to pretend he's dressed in beautiful
garments right now. That's what you're telling me. And we're not
going to acknowledge what we all see there
That was a big one. And then you know
there's a
Just the idea of just just trying to convince everybody that this chick was actually great which they're kind of still
Attempting to do I just I don't see
How they're gonna be able to effectively sell the next narrative
You know and and by the way as I've kind of noticed like one of the ones that I think people are starting to wake up
To now which is the other?
As the potential to be another one of these it's like to me the corporate media
The the state propaganda apparatus is dying a death of a thousand self-inflicted cuts.
They just keep doing it to themselves.
But the next one that you can already see developing here is that it's the end of democracy.
Democracy is on the ballot.
Trump wins will be a dictatorship.
This is pretty clearly already.
And look, there's little things like Joe Biden and Kamala Harris
when they spoke after Trump won in her concession speech
and then he was speaking the other day.
They both were like, hey, we're down, but we're not out, you know,
continue to fight, like we'll come back and win.
This wasn't the result we wanted, but we'll be back and blah, blah, and you're
like, yeah, but dude, now that that's kind of exposing that when you said this was
the end of democracy, oh, that was just campaign talk.
Like, all right.
Everybody always has a little bit of campaign talk, but that's pretty, like,
that's pretty egregious to just claim this
is going to be the end of democracy. And then as soon as it happens, be like, ah, all right,
it's not the end of democracy, guys. Don't worry. That's tough.
I told that joke on run your mouth that I Kamala Harris agrees to a peaceful transfer
power to who she said is a known fascist. It's like, how do you justify that one? When you're on
the news saying, yes, he's a literal fascist. And then you got to get on the news two days
later and go, yes, I will of course engage in peaceful transfer of power. Pretty incredible.
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Yeah, the whole the whole thing is why I think I
my guess is they're going to drop the end of literal democracy and
they're gonna go straight to and
They they have a claim on this one
They're gonna talk about the
dangers of the policies that he actually goes ahead to implement. So some of the
ones that are on the table is if RFK Jr. actually steps into some of a health
role and even if he's just trying to roll back seed oils, I'm sure you're
going to hear on the news health experts similar to COVID, this is dangerous
and reckless policy, the FDA food guidance has said this,
and the regulations this.
So anything that they try and do,
unless they sit down at the table with Pfizer
and they make the prearrangements of
what Pfizer's willing to concede to,
my guess is you're gonna see a big stink over that.
I already put forward, I think it was on a subscriber episode of the Rob Bernstein amnesty plan for deportations,
of allowing people to stay as long as they sign away birthright citizenship and basically register that they will not be taking any free goods from the United States government and be paying taxes. But there's a chance of some sort of an actual deportation.
That's going to give the media a lot of opportunities for tear-jerking footage of something that
the American people don't want to actually contend with. The kids' bitten cages, when
that was going on, did work well. That's partly why Biden was processing people out of the
center so quickly, was to make sure that there weren't going to be inhumane images, so if they do push forward with some sort of actual deportation, I think the reality
of that will be unpopular with the general American public and the media will give him
a hard time for that.
And then lastly, is if he does try and wind down the Ukraine war, which I think that one's
likely, I think Israel will continue, I'm not sure that the at least in the first
Wallet still on the table same as we heard about the Kurds
We'll hear more about how dangerous it's gonna be and how all of Europe's gonna be taken over by Russia
so I think the media will probably pivot to
Any legislation that Donald Trump's actually moving forward with and he's got a political climate where he should be able to
He should be able to get what he wants done if he can't get a wall built in his first
Two years while he's got Senate and potentially the Congress. I mean just call the guy a complete and total failure
but they actually I think will have a
Genuine criticism that they'll be able to lobby at him about why they think the agenda is dangerous that maybe we're gonna move on from some of the nonsense talking
point of hey the guy's a dictator yeah yeah well I it'll be interesting to see
that I think you're absolutely right but yeah listen
Donald Trump won a landslide he has a mandate he the Senate. I don't know the house results in yet
But it yeah, but I think it's I think it's trending well from what I've but I've you know
I've been so focused on the other stuff. It's been that's been like
Me too, but you know, so yeah, man
but look if you've got the Congress and the White House and you want a landslide and
the central issue of your campaign and the White House and you want a landslide and the central issue of your campaign and the either central or second biggest issue of the election was
immigration if you can't get it done now I mean this is then it's never
happening so this is this is the time for that all right I do want to play by
the way I'm sorry just last thing Donald Trump's first publicity stunt well
actually I was joking around your mouth that he should bomb the windmills but and say we're not going back
He should take the slogan
But what he should really could do is he should go track down the wall parts that were sold
for pennies on the dollar and just make a publicity stunt out of
going to the places where they've been warehousing the walls and
Purchasing them from whatever random individuals pick them up for pennies on the dollar and just make a scene out of out of what
the Biden administration did to unwind his efforts of building the wall and
actually getting it done. Yeah, that wouldn't be a bad way to play it. Here, I
want to go to this clip, the first one I sent you Natalie, because it was
interesting to me to just watch some of how the media is and when
I say the media, I mean the dying legacy corporate media, how they are processing this result.
And I think it's important to say that anyone who has experienced or been in the United
States for any period of time and experience this country's history and knows it
cannot have believed that it would be easy to elect a woman
president let alone a woman of color. Let's just be clear and
nothing that was true yesterday about how flawlessly this
campaign was run is not true now. I mean this really was an
historic flawlessly run campaign. She had Queen Latifah never endorses anyone
You know, I mean we she had every prominent celebrity voice
She had the she had the the Taylor Swiftie to the Swifties
She had the beehive like you could not have run a better campaign in that short period of time
And I think that's still true and I think it's
campaign in that short period of time and I think that's still true. And I think it's a-
So I just, of all the clips of the media and there's a bunch out there and it's always
one of the most fun parts of Donald Trump winning is watching these people just absolutely,
you know, lose their mind.
But is there anything that was like more of a perfect demonstration of why they are doomed to fail?
they are
incapable of
Breaking out of the tiny little box of thinking that they're allowed to have
It's like first of all to make the claim that anybody who spent any time in
America knows that the reason she lost is because she's
a black woman.
That's it.
That's the story here.
And then to pit, which like, and again, they don't even feel the need to provide any evidence
for that.
Like what are you backing that assertion with?
Like because in fact, all I see is that the only reason she was there is because she's a black woman.
What are you talking about?
But regardless of that, to make the claim that Kamala Harris ran a flawless campaign?
Flawless?
You can't find one flaw, Rob. You look at that campaign, you can't
find... It was nothing but flaws. And her evidence of this is that she got celebrity
endorsements. Who the fuck cares who Queen Latifah's voting for? That's your evidence. When there's just something about it where it's like you,
you are so unable to grapple with the facts on the ground.
It really is like, it's gotta be like a real indicator
of mental illness or something like that.
When, you know, if you were to have, like, look,
we all have our views, right? You know, I was accusing Nick Gillespie over at Reason Magazine of
this the other day, but I said it's something that the libertarians are often guilty of
is seeing the world the way they wish it was, rather than the way it actually is. Because
he had made the point that he said something like,
if Donald Trump wasn't so harsh with his immigration rhetoric
and if he wasn't such a culture warrior
and if he talked more about deficit spending,
he'd be up by ten points in the polls
instead of being neck and neck.
And I was like, wait, hold on.
Like, I can totally understand someone saying,
I wish I lived in a world, you know what I mean? Where you'd be doing, you'd be polling
better if you were making a sound economic argument. But are you really saying that's
what you what? Like, that's not real. Like, I said, my, my response was I said, this is
like telling Matt Walsh, that if he really wants to sell some tickets he shouldn't have made what is a woman and he should have made a documentary about
deficit spending.
Right like what?
That's not the way that like if you're Joy Reid if you're looking at the world the way
it actually is listen I wish that the number one issue that Americans cared about was central banking and war
Okay, but it's not right like so, okay
We have to live in the world that we're in
the
overwhelming evidence of this presidential election is that turns out celebrity endorsements are next to meaningless
They don't mean anything.
And they shouldn't.
And of course they shouldn't.
I mean, yeah, you could really, really like
Taylor Swift's catchy tunes
and also not really care what she thinks about politics.
You know, I don't know.
The idea that anyone would be moved
by who Queen Latifah is voting for is insane.
But like the fact that you got all of these celebrity endorsements and they did nothing
for you.
Well a normal well adjusted non mentally ill person looks at that and goes, I guess celebrity
endorsements just don't really move the needle.
But she's looking at it and going, I mean her campaign was flawless.
They got all these celebrity endorsements and it's just got to be because she's a black
woman.
It can't be that her answer to every single question was, I grew up in a middle class
family.
That, which by the way, I would say is a flaw.
It's a flaw to not be able to answer a single goddamn question.
It's just, so anyway, I just, I don't know.
I don't see it. I think these guys cooked. And I don't think Trump getting in is
going to give them a big boost in ratings. We'll see. Maybe I'm wrong about
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this that you just shared, Rob?
If you want to play it, it was I actually thought Joe Scarborough finally coming through
and admitting what happened in the election. And it's in half admission because he still wants to pretend
that they were doing good reporting.
Let's play the clip, yeah.
And Frank Bruni says, Democrats never got it.
While we were looking at all of the crazy things
Donald Trump was saying on the campaign trail,
all of the frightening things Donald Trump was saying
on the campaign trail, they were looking at their wallet, they were looking what groceries cost, what gas cost, what rent
cost, and none of that really penetrated their conscience when they went to vote.
The claim essentially being that they were doing great coverage about the amorality and the problem with the way that Trump would
legislate or, you know, be president.
But with all that said, people just cared about the economy more and the fact that because
all of your horse shit is a luxury good, my friend, and that if you need to actually just
get by in life, if the people on MSNBC are making up some horse shit, no one cares. Yeah, I mean, look, this is...
It's just like...
Obviously, it's only a half admission.
I mean, he's kind of right.
But it's also like, yeah, dude, don't think we forget your propaganda
that we've played on this show all the time about how great the economy actually is, right?
So why wouldn't they be voting for more of it?
Look, I mean, it was so ridiculous where they'd go...
They'd constantly make this argument
I mean even when I was on Paris Morgan a few days ago with those clucking retards and they were trying
They were trying to make the argument that like the economy is actually really great and look at all these numbers
We have such a great economy and you're like, okay, then why isn't Kamala Harris running on that?
You know, I mean, doesn't that destroy
your whole argument right there?
Like if that's really true,
why wouldn't you mention it?
Why wouldn't you feel confident to run on that?
No, no, no, I'm sorry.
If the economy was really great,
then people would support the incumbency. They would support the current vice president.
That's just not the reality. It's a very bad economy that we're in right now. And so, yes,
of course, as you said, it's a perfect way to say it, that it's a luxury good. And all
that shit is. You know, as I've said so many times for years, it's like when you're in a very privileged area,
people care about, as you put it, the luxury goods. What's offensive? What's racism or
sexism? I'm not even saying that those are never things you should care about. I'm just
making the point that you only care about that
after all these other things have been met.
Similarly to the way that you only care
about having a sick flat screen TV
after you know you have enough food to eat.
You have to have the first one
in order to ever think about the second one.
And if you didn't have enough food to eat, you're never even thinking about spending
money on a flat screen TV because it's like, hey, first things first, I'm starving.
Like that's obvious.
And in the same way that like if you go to a job site or if you go into like the inner
city like hood or something like that, nobody's talking about how they're
offended by microaggressions.
Because they got real shit to worry about.
These are hungry people and you're talking about flat screen TVs.
By the way, they have flat screen TVs because the market does wonders.
But the point I'm making is that there is a hierarchy here and you can't worry about
this stuff until you've got all these bases covered.
And the people, the millionaires on cable TV all really care about January 6th and racism
and climate change and all of these things that you just don't care about when you're
drowning.
When you're drowning, you really care about a life preserver.
That's what really matters to you. And so
yes, thank you Joe Scarborough for your expert hindsight analysis. Yes, that's
what those people are voting on, not the garbage that you guys relentlessly
focus on every single day. American voters by and large do not care about
that stuff and for good reason for good reason because
99% of it is garbage and doesn't matter and is made up quite frankly like there wasn't an
insurrection and man-made climate change isn't a crisis and
Actually, you know even despite the fact that you that woke progressives have brought us
in the wrong direction in terms of race relations, this actually isn't a very racist country.
Racism really isn't a problem in America. It's just not true. Like, at least compared to
everything else, you know? Maybe not compared to some perfect utopia, but compare to every other civilization
that's ever existed in the history of the world.
We don't have a problem with racism.
We're actually, we've made so much progress,
you wouldn't believe it.
People have no concept of this.
If you go to the Dominican Republic
and talk about the prejudice between the light-skinned
and dark-skned people there, it's something that Americans have never experienced, at
least any Americans alive today.
It's something that you'd have to go back to 1940 in Birmingham, Alabama, to get anywhere
close to that level.
So you're obsessing over these problems that aren't real, they don't exist.
And so what do you expect? You expect people who have real problems to focus on problems that don't exist?
Good luck. Good luck with that strategy.
Anyway, look, we're living in kind of a new world now.
There are lots of incredible possibilities.
I will say one thing, because I will say this,
because we've got to wrap up here, because I've got to get moving,
and we've got to get up to Poughkeepsie.
After doing these big shows that I've done the last few days, and obviously, you
know, after supporting Trump in the final stretch of this election, I know, you know,
I, okay, so my Twitter's been blowing up.
And one of the things that is kind of like when I did Tucker Carlson last time, but one
of the things that a bunch of people have been saying is that I should be the press secretary
for Donald Trump.
Now obviously I think this is said somewhat tongue in cheek.
This is not going to happen.
You're talking about that hot lawyer of his.
Yeah.
Well, obviously as people know, Joe said on air that he wants to do a podcast with me,
Trump and him.
Listen, of course I would do that in a second. I think that is a long shot that
that Trump would be willing to do that. I think Joe is certainly willing to do it. And I'm certainly willing to think you should get RFK and JD Vance on this show.
Well, that I that is something that could potentially happen. But certainly I think Bobby, in fact, I'm going to reach out to Bobby
today and ask him to come back because I really do want to talk to him
a bunch more about some stuff.
But look, I just want to be clear.
I know a lot of people are kind of being tongue in cheek when they say that.
But I would not take that job.
I would not do that because that's look, I may have been
I may have finally succumb to just
the overwhelming pragmatic argument that it just made sense to support Donald Trump and that this
outcome was so much better than Kamala Harris winning but I'm never going to be in the business
of just carrying water for this administration.
I'm going to be the guy calling Donald Trump a war criminal, not the guy pretending that
he's great on everything.
That's what I've always been and that's what I'm going to continue to be.
I think that there is a case for cautious optimism right now, very heavy on the cautious.
We're going to learn a lot very quickly with who Donald Trump
appoints and whether he frees Ross on day one, whether he's really committed to
keeping his promises. Obviously there's a lot to be optimistic about,
but going forward, my role in this is not to get Trump over or to try to paint
with rose-colored glasses what his last
Administration was or what this next administration is gonna be I'm going for my only job in this is to tell the truth
That's what I do That's my bond with our audience and that's what I like to do and that's what I'm gonna continue to do the position of press
Secretary the job is to be a liar. So I couldn't do that job even if I wanted to
You know, like what do I get a liar. I couldn't do that job even if I wanted to. You know,
like what am I going to do? Pretend that he's not terrible on all these issues he's terrible
on? So no, we're not going to do that. We're just going to keep doing what we do. I do
appreciate all the support though. I've been kind of, you know, this job that I have is
so goddamn weird and kind of surreal. But it is like in moments like this, I am
just kind of like, I'm just blown away by the amount of support and the amount of people
who love what we do. It's really very cool. So thank you to everybody. And I'll see some
of you guys in Poughkeepsie tonight. And then I am going to sleep with the ferocity of a
thousand horses when we're done with that.
But okay, thanks for listening guys.
Catch you next time.
Peace.