Part Of The Problem - Reflecting on the TP USA Debate with Josh Hammer

Episode Date: July 16, 2025

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Love thrillers with a paranormal twist? The entire Oracle trilogy is available on Audible. Listen now on Audible. What's up everybody? Welcome to a brand new episode of Part of the Problem. I am Dave Smith. He is Robbie the Fire Bernstein. How are you good, sir? I'm still riding high from those Denver shows. That was electric. And now we're off to get some fancy steaks. Some green room steaks from the old Greek man. Yeah, we're going out to Hilarities in Cleveland, Ohio, which is one of the best comedy clubs. Love that place. And yeah, they have this like excellent steakhouse attached to the to the comedy club. And just so typically me and Rob are like eating like a quesadilla

with like a thing of guacamole that you have to like pull a lid off of that was like bought at the store. But we're going we're're going out to have some stakes this weekend. Come on out to, to cleveland comic dave smith.com for those ticket links. Um, so I wanted to, uh, I wanted to start today's show or we'll see how long it takes, but I wanted to give some of my thoughts on this, uh, this event that I was just at for a turning point USA. I should say, first of all, we, so we were, we were in Denver at Denver Comedy Works all weekend

and I went from there to Florida to do this turning point events. Gotta at least take a moment to say, what a weekend we had out in Denver. I mean, geez, Rob, that is, listen, it is, it's, Comedy Mothership and Denver Comedy Works are the two best comedy clubs. I've ever worked in my life. I mean this, this weekend was just incredible.

Every, if you're out in the Denver area, go cat, check out a show at comedy works. Literally every aspect of the weekend was just perfect. Like all the shows were sold out. The room is perfect. The staff was great. Just they really run a club the right way. And we got such a great fan base out there in Denver Just a excellent excellent weekend Robbie murdered on every show is great

Yeah, it really gives you a false sense of life. I Found that first joke up there. You just hear you're like, oh man. This is what comedy used to feel like this rule. Yeah Yeah, it was great. Great time. So more relevant to our show and to today's show is the going and doing this turning point USA event. And I have I have some reflections on it. It was well, first of all, I guess I just start by saying, uh, I should publicly, as I did on Twitter, thank Charlie Kirk for having me. Um, he was really just, uh, um, just, uh, very,

very cool, uh, in every way. Like he really pushed for me to be at this event. He was super cool to me the entire time we were there and I very much appreciated that. Um, uh, okay. Okay. And also again, really turning point is really, um, an incredible organization. Like the staff is great. Everything runs really super, super professional organization. It's impressive what, uh, what Charlie Kirk has built there. Okay. Now in terms of my, my big takeaway, my biggest takeaway from this, uh this from going to this event which really was

very interesting Was you know how me and you Rob I've been saying for the last couple episodes and we were like, you know This Epstein thing is a real problem for Donald Trump. This isn't just you know a Little thing that the base isn't happy about this is like a really profound issue that is going to change the way his base looks at him That was really Solidified by my experience there or maybe solidified isn't the right way to put it But it's it was validated for sure like this is this is Charlie Kirk's

Turning point USA and I'm sure as some of you guys, um saw Uh, you know in some of the clips that were going super viral like with tucker carlson and or megan kelly But when they're saying straight up that the the government is covering up this this child rapist intelligence Operation this blackmail ring they are getting mean, it was like the overwhelming majority was, was with them. They, they, it was really something. And when you come out of an environment like that, like this is the most rah rah Donald Trump's base that there is, you know, like this is the, you're,

you're at the epicenter of like the pro Trump crowd. And it was, it was kind of stunning to me to see that the, oh no, they are really not going along with this one. Even though Donald Trump straight up told them to, they're just not going along with this. So it, it seemed to me to be a huge indicator that we're on to something with that now I don't know what exactly comes of that or what you know, like it Is it possible that this is kind of the the story of the day and maybe in a little bit of time?

It's it's not quite as white hot of an issue Perhaps I gotta say I don't think this one is going away But it was really interesting to go there and see how much Of these like young activists Donald Trump base types were just not having it. That I thought was very interesting. You know, sometimes live events are very interesting analytic because they're not a poll and you are kind of just going off your personal gauge. Yes, we all remember when Donald Trump showed up to UFC or when entire stadiums were booing Joe Biden and

the other let's go Brandon chants. And I've personally personally had jokes that work really well. And then suddenly they're not working well. And that's because the attitude of the country has kind of changed. Right. The joke that you were telling is obvious. Or now it's just kind of gone more sad. Like even like so it's interesting can, there is a gauge there

of an attitude of a live audience. And particularly if you're in front of what feels to be the conservative base, and they're all on board with one particular topic that the administration does not want to address. It's a pretty firm analytic of, hey, I don't think you're going to be able to just brush this under the rug. Yeah, it's, um, uh, I will tell you not just being there and you're right. Yeah, of course. It's a very good point. I mean, it's not, it's not a scientific poll or anything like that, but it is. It's also not, I I'm not claiming that it's a sign.

I'm not claiming this is a random sample. The whole point is that this is very much not a random sample, that this is a random sample. The whole point is that this is very much not a random sample, that this is a particular group and if you're even losing them, the implications are something more broad. Now, look, you could make the argument too that like the activist class is more immersed in this stuff and to the average voter, the price of eggs and gas is still more relevant than this. But I just don't look again. You're talking about in a similar way with the around thing, but you're talking about these people like you had Megan Kelly up there straight up saying that he

was massage. So Megan Kelly is a huge right wing, you know, media figure. Tucker Carlson is the biggest right wing media figure. And again, then from as somebody who's not as big as those guys, then me stepping in there and making the arguments that I'm making and it was, it was an interesting event. I'll get to my thoughts on the debate more specifically, but it was, you know, I don't know that I've ever, I don't think I've ever done a debate in an environment quite like that.

You have done debates in front of live audiences, but they've been much more academic where this is like a rah rah crowd. And you know, there's some issues with that. It, you know, it's, it, it, it changes the nature of a debate when, when you have that. Maybe I'll get into that in a little bit. But it was like, I'll be honest, it was a split. It wasn't like the entire crowd was there for me.

There were hardcore Zionists in the crowd and there were certainly people who didn't like that I was criticizing Donald Trump so harshly in the crowd. But if you were there, it was the clear majority Were with me like the clear like the the applause that I got were twice as big as the applause that Josh got in That's not saying an indication of who's right or who's wrong. I'm just saying it's it's interesting right away Just that like that is the makeup of a Charlie Kirk event at turning point USA

And I do think that you know, I'm not ascribing any, um, uh, like dishonest intentions to Charlie Kirk. I take him like, he's been nothing but cool to me. And I think he's that, you know, I have nothing but good things to say about him. Um, it personally, that is, obviously we disagree on some issues, but it did feel like, Oh, part of the reason why I'm even there to begin with is almost like, it's just, you can't deny this. Like when, when twice as many people here feel this way than that way,

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Cleanse your body today. All right, let's get back into the show. But anyway, I just this is you know to Just to be clear here Charlie Kirk is You know, mr. Republican mr You know Donald Trump supporter the guy who mobilizes his biggest activist, you know, group for young people. And he's like a committed Zionists like well, has been saying over and over for many years how deeply he hold, you know, how it feels a connection to Israel. Like this audience, you historically you would think this would be like the most hardcore Zionist audience and

the most hardcore pro-israel pro-trump audience and even there it was just obvious that the majority was you know, like Listening to what I had to say then agreeing with what I have to say It doesn't mean they're not supporting Donald Trump and not saying like, oh, they'd pick me over Trump or something silly like that. But it says something about like, it was just already impressive to me how open they were to hearing this argument and even agreeing with it. So that was, that was very interesting.

Um, and I wasn't, you know, I really wasn't sure what to expect. And I thought that quite possibly I was going to be debating in like a really hostile environment with the crowd against me. And I was kind of like, I was kind of looking forward to the challenge of that. But then what happened was when we were in Denver and me and you did talk about this, Rob, although we haven't really talked since the debate itself. Um, but when I saw Tucker Carlson up there and the applause he was getting and like you, I saw that video where there were like there were some students who were

walking out when he was talking or whatever, but then you hear the applause and it's like thunderous and you're like, Oh wait, I don't know how this is going to be like a, uh, a partial hostile audience with a much larger sympathetic audience or an audience in agreement there. So anyway, it was just that in itself was an interesting, you know, yeah, yeah, a favorable audience. He just had to debate the whatever hammer guy and a host. That's it. So it was just a two on one. But the audience mainly had your side. That's it. So it was just a two-on-one, but at least the audience mainly had your side

You know what? I? Will say I I didn't I thought Charlie was was a fair moderator And you know I did see a lot of people were kind of making that point on Twitter I think you know I think what happened honestly was I think Charlie really wanted to keep it like a good faith the conversation and a good faith conversation and a good faith debate. And that was kind of over after Josh's first opening statement. And then it was almost like he was trying to referee me into keeping it a good

faith debate, but it's like, well, no, dude, it doesn't like, it doesn't work that way. Look, I don't, I don't hold anything against Charlie. I think he was trying his best to make it a good exchange of ideas. I will say, I mean, look, I'll give you guys just like a little bit of background. With that said, I did. I thought the framing on the questions were slightly biased, but I did like the way that he asked sharp, clarifying questions that gave people an opportunity to either

make their argument or showcase the fact that they didn't actually have an argument to make Yes, well speaking of showcasing the fact that they didn't have an argument to make Josh was look man. I don't know what to say. He was just ridiculous and the whole like he you know I I think he thought because he he took a bad loss in the first debate that he had to like be more Aggressive or something like that. Let me just give you a little bit of background info. Okay. Cause this is like, to me was like kind of fascinating. Um, so literally the only thing I get very similar to the Douglas Murray thing,

and they always trap me into this cause I really am just like a naive romantic in my heart of hearts, which is ridiculous. Like I got to grow out of that at some point, but I just like any time anyone before the debate is like, Hey, we just really want to make sure this is like a good faith exchange and doesn't evolve into like name calling. And you guys, you know, I want, I want to have a very respectful, good faith debate. And as soon as anyone ever says that to me, I'm like, Nito, awesome. You know, like I'm just like, Oh, okay, sure. Like let's have a good faith debate. And as soon as anyone ever says that to me, I'm like, Neato awesome. You know, like I'm just like, Oh, okay, sure. Like, let's have a good faith, respectful exchange.

And we can actually talk about the issues cause this is what matters. You know, all the other stuff is just a distraction. So this is what Charlie says. It puts the three of us in a text message. Josh writes back like emphatically agreeing. Yes, absolutely. Let's keep it good faith and respectful. I chime in, I go, of course, that's great. The 100% that's what it'll be. Charlie, we get there. All three of us are in the green room together. We sit down. We have a nice conversation.

Charlie reasserts that he wants this to be a good faith, uh, respectful debate. I go, absolutely. That's what we're going to do. We're going to go out there. Josh's opening statement to the debate ends with him saying, I'm disgusted that Dave is on this stage with me right now. And I just, I don't know. There is something just like as a man, that shit fucking baffles me when I see it. Like it just baffles me. I'm like, dude, you don't just like, I'm not even saying you can't do that,

but I could never do that while having previously just been such a phony, like doesn't your skin just wanna crawl off your body? Like, I don't know, that's just nuts to me. It's the exact same thing as Douglas Murray. They both like initially go out of their way. It's almost like that's their attempt to like defang me is to go like, Hey, don't come in here being personal. But anyway, so John,

look, I just, I thought that was nuts. But anyway, um, and I did, I did think Charlie was surprised that he, uh, he ended up doing that. But so I would just, I mean, my thoughts overall on the debate are like, I think what I was saying before, um, you know, when you having a debate in front, you know, like I've done live debates in front of a live audience, um, at like the Soho forum and I did one at Princeton university. I don't know.

I'm trying to think if I did any others in front of a live audience. I don't know. I definitely two at Soho Forum and one at Princeton University. I might be... I guess the Cuomo one. That was... Oh yeah, that's right. That was a live audience too. But almost always, I mean, I guess the Cuomo one, the audience was a little bit more riled up. But typically speaking, like in the Soho Forum ones, the one in Princeton University, it's just a, it's a much more academic setting. So you're just kind of like you're sitting here and you're discussing your your ideas, you're you're you know, giving your you're presenting your

arguments when when it's like a rah rah rah crowd people and I did this during the debate as well. It's just it's natural. It's like you just you start playing to like applause lines. it's just it's natural it's like uh, you just you start playing to like applause lines, um, and so now Everybody does this a little bit in those events, but you still want to be making arguments Josh's opening was just like i'm strictly just doing that i'm strictly just playing this social psychology game Of this guy doesn't like trump and this guy said all types of things about Donald Trump. Now, one of the things I, I gotta say, and it takes away again, the debate went very good for me.

The response has been excellent. Um, Charlie Kirk put out a poll and I was dominating in the poll. Last I saw it was like 60 40. Um, without, I didn't, I didn't post it or nothing. I just figured, leave it there. Um, and there's amongst his base again, like it, which is a very interesting dynamic to me. But one of the things that I think is a big part of the reason why these debates go well for me is every one of them, right? Like, you, you know, you know, right, you know my my Spiel you know my take on this and my arguments and so I now obviously we could I could

We could talk for three hours about the argument if we wanted to get into detail So you have to be condensed in these environments, but it's very you know I go through it as as I always do in these debates debates I start telling the story and I'm like, okay, here's what happened the neo conservatives hijacked our foreign policy after 9-eleven The neo conservatives were joined at the hip with the Likud party and Benjamin Netanyahu. This is not a secret This is open. You can read it in their own writings. This is who they were. This is what they wanted to do They had this clean break strategy go read the memo yourself It was written to Benjamin Netanyahu by dick Cheney's men like this is okay This is what here's another go read coping with crumbling states

It elaborates further on this plan the project for a new American century elaborates further. This is what General Wesley Clark was talking about when he said he went into the Pentagon when the neocons had control of the government and saw they had a plan to overthrow seven countries they wanted to overthrow seven governments this was the clean break strategy this was their plan for Israel to overthrow the governments in the region and whatever there's we get into a lot more of the details about it but this is the argument that I'm presenting there's this is all on record this is what happened Iran was the last this is the argument that I'm presenting. This is all on record. This is what happened. Iran was the last country on the list.

That's why they want to go after Iran. And just like in Iraq, when they wanted to overthrow Saddam Hussein for completely different reasons, and then they wanted to get the Americans on board, they lied about a nuclear threat and they're doing the same thing here in Iran. And this is what's going on and blah, blah, blah, blah. So I, I lay out my argument and as is the case every single time. And then I, you know, my big closing argument or what I brought into the middle was the libertarian

economic stuff that I was like, look, we've spent $20 trillion on empire and war since the collapse of the Soviet union. And there's no way you can tax people enough to afford that. And we can't even borrow enough even though we're 37 trillion dollars in debt we still can't borrow enough to pay for it so what do we do we print the money and this is destroying the currency and this is why you young people here can't afford anything and are just totally your generation is just totally screwed out of like the really i know

it's like corny when people use the word but like you're screwed out of The American dream it's such a fucking profound thing to screw your entire generation With that none of you guys can afford to be owners in the society You're gonna be renters forever and you're lucky if you'll be able to afford just to rent a good life You're gonna rent with roommates or live back in with your mom or hope one of you has a parent with some money that they can leave you. Like this is what it's done. So this is my argument.

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Promo code problem for 10% off. All right, let's get back into the show. And as is the case in all of these debates, Rob, the response to this argument is nothing. There's no point in the entire debate that like, it's a pretty compelling argument I'm laying out here. If you can find holes in it, then fine. And again, I'm saying, I'm giving you a very condensed version here. I can defend this for hours and hours and hours. I just

know this stuff. There is no response. Nobody ever responds to the clean break memo or responds to what General Wesley Clark or responds to the idea that they they lied about the nuclear threat in Iraq and they're doing the same thing. He had like, there is no response to any of these points. It's all just like either, either debunked like bullshit. Um, but again, the, the money being inflated cause we can't afford this empire. There's just no, there's no response to it. Notice. And so instead, so I lay out like a bunch of this stuff in my opening statement and then Josh's

opening statement is like to pull out. He had a prepared thing to pull out a list of my tweets. Every last one I'll stand by and defend where I'm criticizing Donald Trump. And then to go after saying it was going to be a respectful, good faith debate. And by saying, I'm disgusted to be on stage with this guy. Like it, there's just something interesting to me, Rob, about the And by saying I'm disgusted to be on stage with this guy, like There's just something interesting to me Rob about the fact that it's like we live in the upside down world Everything's so goofy and cartoonish like here. I am. I'm the shit-talking comedian

there sits Josh the senior editor at News. And yet I'm the one making arguments, laying out a narrative, like building a case. And he is like, again, like all of them, like he debates like a mean girl. Like it's just, it's so weird to be in this situation. Like, dude, I'm supposed to be. And then there are like, you're the suit and tie guy. You're the guy with a real job as a journalist and a writer and an author and You're the one who it like it's the lowest debate tactic to be to bring out tweets from a Completely other issues than what we're debating just to say this guy don't like Trump and we're on team Trump

And we and by the way much like with Ben Shapiro, I didn't know this till after the debate, cause who the hell cares about Josh hammer, but much like with Ben Shapiro, he was a DeSantis supporter. He's not, now he comes and plays this. I'm loyal to Donald Trump and you're not, you were trying to support anybody else except him. Um, so anyway, I just like, I don't know. I think, look, dude, I'll, I'll give you the fucking secret because all of them are grappling with how the

fuck to deal with me so much. It's just like, this isn't going to work. You gotta, if you're going to send whoever the next guy you're going to send, has to take on that argument. And if it's wrong, then demonstrate where it's wrong. But I don't think they can cause I think it's right. And you know, then anyway, I guess just the other thought that I wanted, that I thought was interesting, right? Because so when you're doing this, you know, you're, you're playing like a social psychology game and social

psychology is always a part of anything where there's groups of people, you know, and particularly in politics and it's true in debates and particularly in live debates and We all kind of do that you present things in a way that you think will you know allow the audience to be moved by it and So that's that's the game Josh is playing there and then it was just like really interesting moment in the debate was right my my initial response to his opening where he goes through this whole thing because you know you got Now as he's reading off all of the tweets and he's reading off my tweets from over the years I'm like donald trump should be in prison for the rest of his life This guy's a war criminal this guy's like, you know really going on him. And you could see it's getting up. There's,

it's drawn booze. Like I'm getting booed as he's reading my tweets in the audience. Right. But then it goes back to me and I go, so what's your, that's your opening statement that I've been critical of a guy who just covered up a giant child rapist ring. Yeah. I think we should criticize that. And that got way more applause in the room than the tweets got booze. And it was just an interesting read of the room, of the dynamic, like in a way with the social psychology of it, this Epstein thing like allowed me,

it's so unpopular what Trump's doing with it right now that it gave me cover in a way That like what he he should have if he was being smart not included the one about the Epstein thing and just read my tweets About the wars because I do think that that Like the social psychology of that wouldn't have worked as well for me, even though I still think I'm right, you know But it was just so interesting to me that that's like yeah That's how much of a fuck-up this Epstein coverup is, is that you, I can come to turning points USA and call Trump a war criminal who should be

locked in jail for the rest of his life. And all I got to do is throw that Epstein thing at them. And they're like, yeah, I mean, you know, I mean that is, you really ought to use harsh language about something that awful. And so anyway, I just, uh, I guess those are really my, my takeaways from it, but it was, um, yeah, it was just, it was an interesting experience. And I, you know, I was quite happy with, with how it went. Um, oh, you know,

the other thing people said to me, cause I made that, that crack up top about going on no sleep, which I really was going on. I happen to know it. People don't quite know what the comedy travel looks like and how much you give of yourself when you're performing to packed houses of your audience. And waking up at four in the morning after doing a club weekend of shows.

I mean, I texted you that day. I couldn't believe. I was sitting on my couch, dead exhausted. I was doing 20 minutes. You were doing a full hour. I think you did more podcasting on those days. So I, I could not believe that after that weekend you had another work day and that it came with a 4 a.m workout work wake up.

Yeah. Well that's, you know, yeah, I didn't take it. I slept for like an hour and a half in the hotel room and I slept a little bit on the flight, but you know, that sleep was never good sleep. But you know, people were saying like, Oh, how do you do this? The truth is Rob, and I think you'll kind of know this too. It's fine. It doesn't really affect the debate. Once the debate starts and you're in the middle of a live show and everything's there, you, you, you get into the moment. It's fine. It's just the whole rest of the day that really sucks. So like it still sucks

today. I'm like still not caught up yet But so it's not like doing the debate itself is fine It's just the getting there and all that is a pain in the ass So like that wasn't like a whole big thing or anything, but anything else you have on any of this Yeah, firstly, it was it was a fun watch and I thought it was a another well It's not another head for the mantle because you had already defeated him But yeah I thought one of the prime weasel tricks that he was pulling was when he

brought up a specific criticism of what he was laying out, he would go, well, I don't know about that example, which was even like the recent, the shooting of people at Palestinian food sites, just going, well, I can't speak about that example. And well, that example just. I mean, it debunks everything that you're saying. Pretty big one. Yeah, if you guys want to say that it's only an issue when there are human shields, how do you explain this one?

And then there's other examples you didn't mention, but what about when Israel says that here's a safe corridor, and then it bombs it? Or what about the stories of Israeli soldiers using Palestinians to Palestinian kids to get rid of booby traps or whatever? I mean, that one, I don't know that that's a valid don't know that you know, but you know, you're absolutely right. You know, I was harping on that one maybe because it's just recent and it's in the news, but also because the Israeli government admitted it. They you know, because there's so many of them, they fucking deny it.

But this one, they admitted that it was Israel. But you're absolutely right. I just think the human shields argument is like so far past being even kind of believable. Well, the other way to say it is if you want to go to the closet destroyed, if you want to say in situations of human shields, does that mean when it's not a human shield, it is a problem, you admit that it's a problem. And then in that case, I mean, all right, of the I don't know how many how many

civilians do you think were killed in Gaza, let's say we go with half the estimates, so it's 25,000 people, how many of those 25,000 Do you think were killed in Gaza? Let's say we go with half the estimates so it's 25,000 people How many of those 25,000 do you think we're in a situation where they're human shields? So are you saying that the other 12,000 civilians shouldn't have been killed? I there's no way to get around it the I mean between the AI software that's killing people and You know, I mean just go with the example of being told. Hey, here's a safe passageway and being bombed I mean, just go with the example of being told, hey, here's a safe passageway and being bombed. There's no human shield there.

Dude, go to antiwar.com and just scroll back over the past two years. It's just nothing but every single day, every single day, dude. I mean, literally, like right now. Hold on. Antiwar.com. Why is it not prefilling when I go here every day? Hold on one second, sorry.

Is there a, what's going on? What's antiwar.com not coming up? Is the site down? Natalie's got it. Look at the screen. Oh, do you? Oh, sorry. I have to look at my other screen. Sorry. There you go. I don't know. My internet must be working. There's yeah. Just okay. Here's the top stories right here. Israel kills 88 Palestinians in Gaza over 24 hours. Another Gaza freedom sets sail to defy Israel's blockade. Okay. Another Gaza freedom set sail to defy Israel's blockade. Okay

The 89 killed in sorry that's in Syria. Oh, that's what's going on in the the Al Qaeda run Syria, but this and if you just go back like if you just go through the last few years This is constantly story after story after story of civilians being fucking killed by the IDF and not in a thing of like oh my god this crazy example where like there's a command center underneath a school or something like that there might have been a few instances where they have some evidence that there was some of that but 80% of the houses in Gaza have been destroyed it's like at what's the claim here is your claim that all of Gaza is Hamas every single family in Gaza is a Hamas milk because that's the only way this would even be plausible.

So anyway, I'm sorry, Rob. So continue with that. Well, I just thought that there were I that that example stands out. But I just thought that there were a bunch of arguments that you had made that you didn't want to contend with. Obviously at the top of it, the overarching theme of we're spending money for no results in getting people killed. He didn't touch that at any point in time.

He didn't want to touch the fact that, you know, innocent civilians are being killed in Gaza, just didn't want to touch it. I didn't want to touch really Netanyahu's strategy of empowering Hamas. I, you know, I should have rewatched it because I watched it while I was traveling. But it seemed like there were more than one times where he just said, I can't speak to that specific example or just didn't want to take on your argument at all. Well, it was, yeah, there were things. I mean, there was the one,

so it's again, because we debated before. So last time we debated, he goes, this, you know, this again, it's just like these people, I have for me, they don't know what the fuck they're talking about, or they're just lying or whatever. But he goes like, uh, you know this again, it's just like these people I half of me They don't know what the fuck they're talking about or they're just lying or whatever But he goes like last time we debated he goes Shrone You know, he goes well Dave says Netanyahu advocated for the war but Netanyahu wasn't even in power in 2002 And it's like yeah, but that's completely irrelevant Anyway, because he's the longest-serving prime minister in Israeli history and he's come back into power several times since then and so

The saying he's one of the guys who was advocating for this and he testified as a regional expert before Congress lobbying us to get into this and two other wars and But he goes and Sharon was in power and he opposed the war in Iraq and I go no, that's not true What happened is Sharon's envoy who when he first found out that George W Bush wanted to overthrow Saddam Hussein He said no you got to overthrow the Iranian government first and then we'll overthrow Saddam Hussein because if you overthrow Saddam Hussein first Iran is gonna have more control of the Of the region which you know is what ended up happening. But then they convinced them that, no, we're going to overthrow Iran next. So don't you worry about that.

You got no problem with Iran having control in the region cause we're going to overthrow them next. Now there is whatever in this whole area, it's you know, Scott Horton breaks down masterfully. It's, it's a, there's a lot to it, but essentially the neocons and the lacudenecks, Sharon was in the Lacud party and then left at one point, but they had a split between Sharon and Netanyahu. But the Netanyahu guys and the neocons, they had the seven countries and five years strategy. And they did, I think at the time, believe they were going to be able to do it. There's tremendous hubris amongst the neoconservatives. If you go back and really

read their stuff the way I have, that's one of the things that really shines through. The group was called Project for the New American Century. That was their plan. We are laying out a plan to dominate the next century. There's just tremendous hubris. And at the time, they thought we were going to be able to do this.

They weren't banking on Iraq and Afghanistan both turning into nightmares that would turn the American people off from war They were still like 9-11 winded our back were the big bad USA. There is no Soviet Union. We can do all this So they essentially the Sharon people had the right instinct that his envoy had the right instinct to go Oh, this will give power over to Iran still had the same plan that we should overthrow both of the governments And then they were convinced by the dummies who thought it would all work out better if we did Iraq first and then around But then they got on board and then they started anyway So last time he brings this up in the debate and then I give that response

He has nothing to say back to it. There was no response because I'm right now I know this and he either knows I'm right or he doesn't know what the fuck he's talking about. And so he didn't, he doesn't have anything to say back to it. So like he makes the point. I go, Nope, you got that all wrong. Here's how it really went down. He has no response again in this debate. He brings it up. And I go, as I already told you, that's not right. Here's the real story. Again, no response. Click. He doesn't even have a thing to say back as to why I'm wrong.

Like, and he just, I mean, he did it over and over. He was the, the first time we debated, he just got, he just got wrecked. This time he was just much more bad faith and, and, uh, you know, aggressive and still just had nothing. There is, he does not have a counter to that point And so because it's just a joke. It's a joke to say Israel opposed the war to Iraq like everybody knows is so ridiculous But again, it's just kind of desperate I also thought there were some real holes in the Iran story that they're trying to showcase

So that was One of the moments is basically I'm, Hey, this was the greatest achievement of the president ever 14 days, you thought it was going to be a disaster and he got it done in 14 days. And one of his pitches, which he really, I felt misrepresented where he goes, you know, they were enriching the uranium, but not to weapons grade, they seem to have stopped at 60%. And they weren't doing it when they were in the IAEA deal. So they like to present it that they went up to 60% and there's no other reason other than achieving weapons. And what they like to overlook is that perhaps it was a negotiation tactic to then go back down and get back into a back into a nuclear enrichment

deal. And they also seem to overlook their desire to have a civilian nuclear program or just to have their own. Oh, yeah, I should have I should have hit him on that. I think I did let that point go, but again, it's just, you know, it's amazing. You can't possibly catch everything when you're there, but just to speak to, they are so convinced that this storyline is just over and it might be, it might be over, but essentially at the moment, Iran seems to still have its enriched uranium. They seem to have more incentive now than ever. So Donald Trump has declared that it's over, which might be because he's working off bad

intelligence and someone told him that they don't have the enriched uranium. It might be that he's calling Israel's bluff and he wants to take this off the table so that he doesn't have to hear about it anymore. But I mean, what do you guys think are the odds right now on the betting markets that within a year or two years or three years, we're not going to hear about Iran and the nuclear bomb again? Who thinks that this was actually a permanent solution that we'll never hear about it again? Or who thinks Israel won't be bombing them more? You know, who thinks that who thinks there won't be some reason why there's more conflict? Look, again, who knows? Like you you said maybe this is the end of it

But at the same time we all kind of at least people my age kind of remember a mission accomplished banner being hoisted up You know It's real easy to celebrate these things when you're in the middle of it and just go yes complete domination total success And you by the way, you know Cuz I am old enough to remember this stuff when you when George W Bush was was hoisting that mission accomplished banner and he landed the fighter plane and did that whole thing Every every George W Bush supporter who at the time he was very popular every George W Bush supporter was Shoving it in the faces of the people who opposed the war. Look at this. Look how easy it was

Look how great this is. Oh, and you were against this. The world is a safer place. Adam Hussein is out of power, blah, blah, blah, blah. It became the biggest catastrophe of the century. So, you know, it's anyway, it's just like, yes, it's ridiculous to be celebrating this, but I should have made the point. And I did think like in my head, you know, in these things, you always got to pick what things to respond to and whatnot too. But I did think, um, the, like he said, it's just like, have you never even like, have you ever read one book on economics? Have you ever like, do you know anything when you go, it doesn't make sense for them to have a civilian nuclear program because they're an oil rich country. It's like, what? So you think like there's a fixed amount of energy that then it stops making

sense for a country to produce more. Like, do you really need a, like an economics 101 lesson for someone to explain to you how it would make sense to export your oil and use your nuclear energy for a domestic program? Like that. It's just like the more nuclear energy you create, the more oil you can sell on the world market and profit from. And then you sell that oil for money. And with money, you can buy other goods and services that you don't produce as much. Like,

really? If this is a point, it's just, I get it's so bizarre from my perspective because like the only thing they seem to have to hit me with is like like Dave's just a comedian he's not an expert he doesn't know what he's talking about I'm like I know and this is still such basic shit to me that I can fucking dismantle it in five seconds did you honestly just stand up in a professional debate and say why do they need to produce more energy when they already got? Energy like it's just so nuts like it really is like man fucking Sometimes these warhawk conservatives

It's like they've never fucking read like one Thomas Sowell book or something like that and ever like thought about what what does economics even mean? Like what are what are anyway it's really kind of wild it's just there's so much other wild shit going on that that was the least of like the wild claims so it's just that one got lost but yeah I couldn't even believe he said that and then of course you know he had this just total um again I do like you know look winning over the crowd obviously doesn't prove that you're right. And so I'm not, I'm not saying that it does, but I am making the claim that I think these arguments are so laughably weak

that that is why the crowd just sees through it. I do think that's the reason why the crowd is won over. Um, and you know, I mean, I have, I have some like, from being a comedian I have some chops and like Um, and you know, I mean, I have, I have some like from being a comedian, I have some chops and like how to, you know, speak publicly and stuff like that. But it's not like I'm the smartest guy in the world or the most eloquent guy in the world or anything like that. It's just like, yo, that is just not an argument, man.

And then two other things that stood out as one never explains why Israel is such an important ally. It's just distorted, which I think just the audience kind of, that's some of the bullshit. It's just like, can you explain to me why? If it's so obvious and so important, can you just give me a common sense reason why this is worth the cost? Well, right, like why can't you just, then why is it you should just, if it's so common sense and so obvious then you should just Be able to dominate making this case and I'll have nothing to be able to respond to it. That's compelling Yeah, absolutely and then also just just fold it on the Israel lobby completely

That was about to say yeah So his this was the and this is what I, I was leading toward this when I was saying, uh, that people just see through this stuff. But so his argument was like he does this thing where he starts with a straw man and then, you know, knocks down his straw man. I guess he goes, well, if the Israel lobby is all powerful and all controlling and controls everything our government did,

then how come Obama got the JCPOA through when they were against it? And it's like, well first of all, I never said they were all controlling around the entire government. I'm saying they have a lot of influence and you pointing to one loss that they took, it's like yeah you're right they didn't get that. They only got the war in Iraq and Libya and Syria and the striking of, um, uh, Iran. And they've only got, uh, the unconditional support of every single U S president over the last 60 years. Like what? You'd every, every president,

with the exception of Donald Trump, every president of my lifetime has wanted a two state solution. None of them have been able to get it and all of them have continued funding That not happening. So like yeah, it's like APAC does have a little bit of influence And people should read John Mearsheimer's book about that. It's phenomenal just a devastating case But anyway, so that was totally ridiculous. And then again, I made my point about them donating to woke democrats How the hell can any of you support them? That was great. No response. No response from them Just no one's got an answer to this stuff and people see that, you know

People see that i'm presenting these arguments that you can't no one's got an answer to it. That's like it's just you you kind of can't I don't know. You can't fool them with that. And then of course, in probably what was his lowest moment of the debate, uh, Josh did the Ted Cruz thing and resorts, which is like, which I will say is, um, look, I guess it is, uh, you know, it's an advantage in a sense. Uh, it certainly changes the dynamic being like a Jewish guy who's criticizing this whole thing, uh, kind of like being a black conservative or something like that, but it is just, it's just, it's not,

it's not to say that you can't be a self hating Jew as they claim, or you couldn't be an anti-black racist black person. But the, when you're not being that at all, you know what I'm saying? When it's like, there's nothing I'm saying here is bigoted. It's just not like I there's, I never once I'm saying anything about the Jews. I'm talking about fucking people with power and what they did and how this whole system works. Um, and when, and then you just turn around and you go, Oh, so you're saying like for one Jewish guy to look at another Jewish guy and go,

so you're saying the Jews control everything when that's just so obviously not what they're saying is just so pathetic. And I probably, uh, you know, I called them out for it, but I probably could have gone harder at him. I really should have hit him for being a fucking woke leftist at that point, but like it really is insane that that, I mean, that was really the moment and there is something, uh, I don't know. There's just, there's, there's this moment that's like, it's revealing it to someone's like true kind of character where you,

it's like when something's not going good for you and you're getting pressed and then it's like, Oh, that's what you got. You just pull out an accusation racist. Like, I don't know, dude, it's just, just totally, I don't know. Look, I'll just say, honestly, I just thought Josh, uh, was totally, just all of it. It was totally like dishonorable. Just the way he did that. Just like zero integrity. It's like, that's it after all this agreeing to we're going to have a respectful, good faith conversation. You're just going to resort to, I'm disgusted that he's even here.

He's racist as you're getting your ass kicked on the issues. Like, I don't know, dude, pretty lame. But anyway, I didn't, you know, the truth is I initially said no to the debate. Like, I don't know, dude, pretty lame. But anyway, I didn't, you know, the truth is I initially said no to the debate. Um, when Charlie Kirk asked, well, he asked me at first, he asked me to debate, uh, Tim Kennedy. And I was like, sure, let's do that. You know, like, I don't know that that seems someone I haven't debated before. It seems like an interesting one. Um, and he'd have an interesting perspective as a guy who served. It'd be interesting.

And you know, in the, in the, I forget Iraq or Afghanistan, but, uh, so it'd be an interesting thing to kind of like, you know, a different, a kind of different debate than I've done before. And then he was like, uh, Tim can't do it for his like scheduling issues or something. And then he was like, well, how about Josh hammer? And I went, well, no, that doesn't really make sense because like I already debated this guy at Princeton university. I already smoked him. So like what's in it for me kind of to just go debate them again, you know? But then Charlie said, he goes, yeah, dude,

but this time it's going to be at turning points, biggest event of the year. Like this is going to get much more eyeballs on it and a very specific group. And then when he said that I was like, yeah, you know what I really do. Like that is a really important group to talk to. You know what I mean? To talk to like the young, like Trump supporters and to try to explain them like, Hey, look, man, like if you want to do America first, then you gotta do it like this. Like this is the whole game. And, uh,

so anyway, that's why I went to do it. It really had nothing to do with Josh. It was to go have these moments and let these kids hear this argument, which you know, some of them are familiar with, but some of them haven't heard it. And some of them haven't heard it in a compelling way when it's standing up to push back and, and not really receiving anything too good. So that was kind of the goal of doing the whole thing. And I, I was quite happy with, with how it went. And it was just a very cool, you know, I met a bunch of people who were there. Like I kind of, after that,

I went back to the hotel, but I was staying at the hotel that was like next door to the event. So I just like ran into a bunch of people at the hotel. I had a bunch of great conversations with, with, you know, like smart, interesting people. And I was really, really just pleased with how, you know, how receptive they were to this message. I mean, it's really, it really, it just shows you how quickly things are changing, um, in a pretty drastic way. All right, guys,

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Really enjoyed me and him hung out and talked for a little while. I briefly saw Roger Stone at the hotel and we talked for a little bit. And, um, I remember that. Yeah, yeah. I had him maybe even twice, I think. But we had him on back when he was, uh, you know, when he was looking like he was going to be in a lot of trouble. Um, but, so I, I did tell him that I was very happy that he was a freer man since last I spoke to him and he seemed to appreciate that.

But yes, I talked to him briefly and then, did he meet anybody else? How did, I got a nerdy question for you while you're racking your brain about who else you ran into. I don't think I ran into anyone else. I think everybody else, it was like, it was the last event in the whole thing and you know

We were out doing shows in Denver, so I couldn't do it on the Friday or Saturday night So I had to come in for the Sunday So I think most everybody you know I texted Tucker like I was like Oh, dude are you gonna stick around and be in town on Sunday? And he's like I will be on a plane 30 minutes after I'm done with this event. Yeah, I wish I could live that life Just cuz flying home at night while you're still hammered is so much easier than waking up when you're hungover So I was that is true. I would take flying home at night every time if I could I don't know if you got into this with Schneider

But I you know I've done a fair amount of reading and I find Mises not to be the easiest of reads or To be the first person that you would even find. I'm curious how Mr. Schneider even found Mises and how he got through it. I don't know if he got into that. I did not. I, you know, I, we, we talked a little bit about him. You know, he said his, uh, like the, um, the crazy gender ideology stuff being pushed on kids and them labeling the

parents as domestic terrorists had a huge role in like waking them up and the COVID stuff had a huge role, but I didn't really get into the MISA stuff, but I did. We had a whole conversation about how, um, like the connection between the economics and the foreign policy and how that's what it all comes down to, right? Is that like, you have to, you have to destroy your own currency in order to maintain this world empire. And then these are all the problems that come with that. And so, and you know, like he's, I don't know. I mean, I think he was a, he's been,

I think very open-minded about it. You know, I think he's a, he's Jewish and pro Israel, but he's been very open-minded to be like, yeah, okay. There is a real argument over here to what these guys are saying. Um, anyway, uh, so there, there was, yeah, was there anyone else now? But I just, I then just met a lot of the people who work there, like a lot of the staffers and then just a lot of the activists and stuff like

that. Um, and some really interesting, really smart people. And, uh, there were several people I met. Again, this is, as you said before, this is a, what would we call it? Anecdotal, uh, information, but there were several people I've met who were like, yo, like I real, either, either I came in today, not agreeing with you or I came in this year, not agreeing with you. And after seeing just like so much

your stuff like yeah I gotta say you're right about this you know and so like there's there's just no question that like people particularly and all the polling backs this up but particularly the young uh the young people in America are just totally being moved in this direction being against these wars being against the support of Israel, being against what Israel's doing to Gaza, and really against us funding it. And we just, we kind of, our side, you know, we always lose the power struggle.

You know, like we always, that's never changed. Like the machinery of government keeps moving, and all of the people who get into government keep being corrupted or they were corrupt the whole time or whatever. But in terms of like the argument with the people, it's just the cat's out of the bag and we're winning and not even little by little, but it's always just going in our direction. It's always more people coming over here and not hearing about people who are like, I was a hardcore anti war guy. And then I just realized that, well,

actually I saw a debate and I realized it's great what Israel's doing in Gaza. That's just not happening. And the, but tons of people are coming the other direction and it's, I really do just think it's just the lack of control on the media environment, you know, the lack of control. It's like you got the, you got all these guys, you know, you, you got whoever, you know, just think from the weekend there, you got like Tucker Carlson and Megan Kelly and me and some other people who are making this argument. And then you got the guys on the other side of it.

And they're just getting their fucking ass kicked, man. Cause their arguments just terrible. It's like, what can they even do? like they just can't even pretend anymore now reminds me of that. Um, This that story in the soviet union of the pope visiting and and people do really credit that as being one of the factors that That helped bring down the soviet union started really sowing like a lack of trust And it's just that they finally, the Pope came and you know, the communists were all like, we've conquered religion and basically we are the religion now and we're, you know, they're like against Christianity. And then the Pope comes and there's hundreds of thousands of people in the

streets. There might've been millions. It was like insane. How many people were out? And then you just start looking around, you're like, Oh, there's not a consensus that you were saying there is like you're lying. That's and it's like their thing relies on lying and just pretending that's the consensus is this lie. But now you just can't pretend that anymore. Is it's just, and everyone's been vaccinated except for the crazy

coops living in their basement that don't care about grandma. Right. Right. Until you see that, but it's like, no, I'm sorry. That's not true. Like, and in our, in our day and age, you don't, you don't even have to see it on the street. You know, you see a tweet with 200,000 likes next to it, you know, and you're like, yo, wow, there's a lot of people who agree with video of a dead kid. Yeah. Well,

that's right too. And then you just, you see these types of debates. You see the, you know, these moments where like when the ideas clash, like one side just can't really keep up. And you know, again, it's like, you know, as I get, so someone said, what are these guys? Of course, always someone with like a, uh, you know, with like a Israeli flag in their profile picture or whatever. Then they said on Twitter, they go, uh, they go, um, they go, I just want to see one of these debates where Dave doesn't bring old up the same old tired line of four star general. Wesley Clark said this,

and then I didn't even have to respond to it. Cause all of my fans on live, they're all just like, Hey, name a time. Someone's responded to it. Name a time. Someone's refuted this. Like that's right. I bring it up every single time. Every single time we talk about this, I bring up the fact that a four-star general told us he had seen the plans to overthrow seven governments in five years. Seems like a pretty relevant detail, which by the way, totally is in line with the clean

break strategy. It's like, and then we went and did it like, so yeah, I think that's a very relevant detail. And with all of the debates that I've done, every time I brought it up, name the time anyone even had a response. Like Douglas Murray said something about Wolfowitz starts with a animal and ends Jewish. That was his response. What was, what was Josh Hammer's response? Go back through the tape, see if you can find it.

Just didn't address it. Just moved on. And it's, you know, I, I do just think there's, um, almost like the look, if you want to say that there's something wrong with my meta narrative here, you know, if you want to say there's a flaw in it, or you think that's not correct, like, okay. But when I have a narrative here, which is a pretty powerful one. And you know, like this is the way, even the professional, this is how historians work, right? Like you get, like you go into the archives, you get firsthand, uh, uh, uh, documents,

um, you look over, you know, declassified information. There's oral history. You know, you get people who were there telling stories or whatever. And you look at the facts and then you kind of construct a narrative around it. And I'm saying like, I'm giving you this meta narrative here, which is that these people took control of American foreign policy, which is undeniably true Like this is just the like David Wormser was dick Cheney's Mideast foreign policy advisor And they you know what I'm saying like this Richard Pearl was the deputy defense secretary like all these people went into these positions Of power right if dick Cheney is the vice president was really a very influential vice president

You have whatever Donald Rums, who is the defense secretary, who's the signature. These guys, Donald Rumsfeld, Dick Cheney, they were signatories of the project for a new American century. Like these were the guy, they laid out what their vision was, then they got into power, then they proceeded to enact this, and in the middle a four-star general is telling you he's seen the plans and we're going to go down. They're like, okay, I've got this narrative here. It's a really compelling narrative. Even if you don't agree with that, it's a really compelling narrative backed up by a lot of facts. And you kind of can't get away from someone presenting that in the opening of a

debate. And then you just turning and talking about other things and like never at any point in time going, here's what this whole narrative is wrong. You know, here's what Dave's missing, right? Okay. Yes, they wrote this and yes, they did this, but then there's this other piece of it. There's this other thing. There's not even trying, not even making an attempt. Every single one of these debates, by the way, this is how I've won.

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if I was on the other side of this, I would understand that again, not cause I'm some super genius, just cause this is fairly obvious. I'd understand, Oh, I got to take apart that narrative. I got like, when they present a narrative, I realize I got to take a, you know, I do that all the time when he goes, uh, uh, he starts, you know, doing his narrative about how like the Bay route bombing or Islam is the biggest threat and you say, no, it's the spending. Right, right. Right. Or he says the Bay route bombing this and that, and this is why Iran has been at war with America all this time. I go, Hey,

what was the name of that scandal? Iran contra. Oh yeah. Uh, Ronald Reagan was selling the Iran weapons a couple of years later. So you know what I'm saying? You just, you, right away, you put weapons a couple of years later. So you know what I'm saying? You just, you, right away, you put a big thing in their narrative. Your narrative doesn't work anymore, dude. We have, if that was a justification for war, then our president selling them weapons a couple of years later, come on. This isn't just doesn't make any sense. Um, but so what they always do, right, is I go, I have this, this meta narrative that I believe is correct. And, um, and I mean, I really believe is correct. I know a lot about this. Uh,

this is like one of my major issues. Um, and so my major issue, so I have this narrative and then I go in this narrative, right? Is that Iran was the, was the crown jewel. This was the seventh country on the list of seven that Doug, excuse me, that four star general, uh, Wesley Clark laid out and that all the neoconservatives admitted in their own writing. And I go, so this is part of this bigger plan to topple all of these governments for Israel.

And then you just want to move right to they're enriching at 60% or something. You're like, yo, but dude, you haven't talked about like, you know what I'm saying? Like you didn't actually respond to this whole thing. You're just diving into the latest, like, yo, but dude, you haven't talked about like, you know what I'm saying? Like you didn't actually respond to this whole thing. You're just diving into the latest, like, no, this, the war propaganda here is right. And he doesn't even have an argument for that. The other, it was amazing too, about it's like these guys in this old system. And I suppose there are some people like this in the new system as well, but they just, they don't really seem to be the ones who rise to the top. And, um, you know, it's like, there was all these things where like, so many of the key points

that he had, I just had like a devastating counter to, and then that's it. He's got nothing back. Like I said, with the Israel, with the Sharon supporting the war in Iraq, like he says the lie, I correct it, I debunk it, and he's got nothing else to say. You know, he said the thing about how all the roadside bombs were made by Iran. And I go, no, they weren't. This has been debunked. They found that these were right here in Iraq, made by Shiites in Iraq. And then his response, he doesn't have a response.

He doesn't have a next thing. No, that's not true. That hasn't been debunked or your thing has been debunked. And here's where it was debunked Here's the journalist who did it doesn't have anything like that. It's just that's it. They got their talking point someone I really do get the impression that someone told him. Hey, here's a talking point Sharun's envoy was against the war in Iraq and that's what he knows about it Then I that was the impression I got But he just that's what he knew and then when I told him back that that

Was wrong he was it was like I was just telling him something he had never heard before and he just doesn't know so He didn't have the balls to like tell me I'm wrong because he doesn't know if I'm right or wrong and I'm right It's I'm right. I've read shit that he hasn't read and he's unaware of that's the impression I got and anyway The thing that was I guess just like really Encouraging to me about this was as I said at the beginning to just go in to be taking you know, I'm the guy who's calling for Donald Trump to be impeached and removed and even to be prosecuted and you know, And I'm going into turning point USA. I'm just You know like it this is an environment that they should hate my guts and yet that's not how it's going at all so anyway I was really encouraged by that and just really had a great time and as I said I am thoroughly exhausted but we got I got another day before I got to jump on an airplane right oh my god I'm looking for that and can I plug some porches? Yeah, of course, do that.

Natalie, you might not. You might pull that up. I just I'm sharing my screen here, but reading off the next few porches and you go to PorchStore.com because there's like 30 left to go. I got Doylestown, P.A., Brewston Mills, Virginia,

sorry, West Virginia, Johnston, P.A., White Bear Lake, Minnesota, Memphis, Tennessee, Bon Aqua, Tennessee, Chattanooga, Tennessee, Baldwin, Missouri, heckin Indiana, outside Cincinnati, Ohio, Wadsworth, Ohio, Phn, Aqua, Tennessee, Chattanooga, Tennessee, Baldwin, Missouri, heck, in Indiana, outside Cincinnati, Ohio, Wadsworth, Ohio, Philly, P.A., and then the Smoke Out, Belgout and Myersville, Maryland, along with the standup show and a concert for my friends, the Shedcast Boys. So a lot of porching and even more after that.

There's a there's a run in Arizona. There's a run in California. I'm porching all over the place. Go to PorchStore.com and get your PorchStore tickets. Don't ever say Robbie ain't grinded. That's for run in California. I'm porching all over the place. Go to porchstore.com and get your Porch Store tickets. Don't ever say Robbie ain't grindin'. That's for sure. Go check those out guys. And then of course comicdavismith.com

for all our gigs together. All right, catch you guys next time. Peace.