Part Of The Problem - Repairing Biden's Immigration Crisis
Episode Date: January 29, 2025Dave Smith brings you the latest in politics! On this episode of Part Of The Problem, Dave is joined by co-host Robbie "The Fire" Bernstein to discuss Trumps' response to the immigration cris...is, the Libertarian Party chair stepping down, and more. Support Our Sponsors:Monetary Metals - https://bit.ly/4eoich3Better Help - https://Betterhelp.com/problem for 10% off your first monthPart Of The Problem is available for early pre-release at https://partoftheproblem.com as well as an exclusive episode on Thursday!Get your tickets to Porch Tour here:https://porchtour.comFind Run Your Mouth here:YouTube - http://youtube.com/@RunYourMouthiTunes - https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/run-your-mouth-podcast/id1211469807Spotify - https://open.spotify.com/show/4ka50RAKTxFTxbtyPP8AHmFollow the show on social media:X:http://x.com/ComicDaveSmithhttp://x.com/RobbieTheFireInstagram:http://instagram.com/theproblemdavesmithhttp://instagram.com/robbiethefire#libertarianSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
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What's up? What's up everybody? Welcome to a brand new episode of part of the problem.
I am Dave Smith and of course he is Robbie the fire Bernstein. How are you this morning
brother? I am well. I got to listen to the full intro song.
I got a tin in my mouth, a free coffee out of your fridge.
I'm fucking humming.
There you go, there you go.
That's what matters.
The things that matter in life.
I don't know why I said this morning.
It is not the morning.
It was the afternoon.
It was 1 p.m.
I got it, and I've been up since 5 a.m.
I should be on top of that.
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And yeah, this is this should be a fun one.
New markets for us.
Have you ever played in either of these?
I've played in both.
No, that's a lie.
I played in pecking Indiana where you have to fly into Louisville.
So I've never I played a gig in Indiana and flew into Louisville once. I've never, I played a gig in Indiana
and flew into Louisville once.
I think I, you know, I did,
I did shows in Indiana years ago.
I can't remember where.
I don't know. But it was not Fort Wayne.
I don't know one thing about Indiana.
I think they got one of the races out there.
The Indy Five, I think that's out there.
Oh, I thought you were gonna start talking about like Jews
or something like that.
They got one of them races I'm not not very fond of usually if you name a state
I know one fun fact about the state. I don't think I know one thing about Indiana
Yeah, I got old beef with them over Reggie Miller's Pacers
That together the dude I remember watching those next games as a kid and like Reggie Miller just winning games the last 13 seconds and you
Wanted just to cry as an eight-year-old. Oh, I mean that was something he literally I'm pretty sure he made me cry
He was just blessed by an angel in the last 30 seconds of Nick playoff games, dude
We had being a Nick fan was great. It was an amazing like team
I loved them so much but But there were, it was so heartbreaking because it was like always,
this is when we were kids, the Knicks were like, oh,
they lost in the finals twice. And then every other year they'd lose.
And like the conference finals or the second round or something.
But it was always like a team that we were like, this is the year,
this is the year we're going to get it. Uh,
Patrick Ewing missing that finger roll against the Indiana Pacers. Oh my god
It was heartbreaking. Can I tell you a good John Stark story?
Sure, they used to be for anybody not listening John Starks was the shooting guard for the Knicks in the 90s
Scrappy kid scrappy kid. So they had this
John Starks dock Rivers basketball camp. This was before Don Rivers went on to become a very successful coach
Yes, Doc Rivers also he was our starting point guard Rivers went on to become a very successful coach.
Yes, Doc Rivers also he was our starting point guard and I think he blew out his knee or something, which was a real thing.
Like he, it was a, we went to the finals that year, even without him.
And it was like, we probably would have won a goddamn title doc.
And so this, I think it was a great cash grab for these guys that they ran a
one week basketball camp in the summer for, I must have been all of seven
or eight years old.
So they're never there, you're shooting fouls.
You know what I mean with some camp counselor
from the JCC and then they roll in once on the last day
to sign some autographs and their names on it.
So one time John Starks rolls in and he goes,
all right I'm gonna take, like they get all the kids
in there and he goes, I'm gonna take half court shots
and every time I miss it I'll do 10 pushups. and he missed so many shots. He couldn't do the push-ups
Yeah, I remember this as a kid he just couldn't hit half court shots
And then and he and it wasn't even a lot of pushups
He was gonna like do do ten push-ups each time and then by like the fourth miss shot
He was like, you know, we'll do one push-up. I
Remember even as an eight year old being like, that wasn't the thing.
No one asked you to do this. No one's like, hey, John Starks, can you hit a half court shot?
Dude, that is goddamn hilarious. Anyway, yeah, John Starks was my guy. It was hard not to love
him though, because he was such a he was like from the C he came out of the CBA. He was like
bagging groceries. And then he was guarding Michael Jordan unsuccessfully
in the NBA.
Anyway, talking shit while he was doing it unsuccessfully. That made him fun.
Yeah. I like Spreewell. Spreewell is my guy.
Yeah, that was a fun team too. So we traded starts for Spreewell and then, uh,
yeah, someone in the chat here said, uh, Reggie, punking Spike Lee. Yeah,
it was fun time fun time
What a different goddamn country a different country. We loved him back then. I haven't watched basketball since then
It was cool when Patrick Ewing was on the team one time also
I went to NBA Jam, which was a thing that they used to do at uh
At the Javits Center and I got to high-five Patrick Ewing and I did that little kid thing. We're like I can never wash this hand again
Yes, I got some seven foot black dude sweat all over my hand.
Yeah, dude. Well, there's nothing,
there's nothing like the way you kind of look up to athletes as a kid,
which I guess is a little bit strange. But anyway,
at Rune football for me was when I used to be a diehard giants fan,
like a pathetically diehard giants fan. I used to be a diehard Giants fan, like a pathetically diehard Giants fan,
I used to show up to training camp.
I'd be the one guy tailgating training camp.
I got all the autographs, so it was fun.
And we snuck on the field, we took field goal practice,
got thrown out, we used to sneak into locker room,
we had a good time.
Anyways, this had to do with...
I don't know, coming off of, it it's a different country you used to be a fan
Is this the story of how you stop? Yeah, I stopped following football because I remember I
When I was I I wouldn't say I'm less dedicated to my comedy craft
But I was willing to do open mics and you can do open mics every night and I realized I have no excuse for taking off
Sundays and watching football
But it was partially when I realized I was rooting for kids that I was older than and just being like,
ah, this is, I can't do this.
There is a major, something really changes when you get older than the
athletes and that it's like, you're like, oh yeah, dude, I'm like, I can't be
like worshiping a kid.
Like I can't be worshiping a 20 year old.
This is ridiculous.
I'm twice as old as this guy.
like worshiping a 20 year old is ridiculous. I'm twice as old as this guy.
And there's also, I remember my principal
when I was like a little kid,
like fifth grade or something like that.
And the school principal,
he was like talking with us at one point,
it was like outside,
I think he came and like played basketball with us one day,
like we were outside playing
and he like came out to be cool principle and
play whippersnappers how to take a foul shot.
And he was talking about how the Knicks of his day were so much better than the
Knicks today. And today back then would have been like literal Spreewell or
maybe John Starks. I don't remember. Um, and he, uh, whatever he was talking
about that. And then I remember at one point he was like, the truth is I don't even watch the games. And he was like, uh, he goes,
I do Sunday football. That's the only sport I watch. And he was,
I was like, what? Like who doesn't watch every sport? And he,
I remember he goes, Oh, when you're older and you got away,
you gotta pick your battles. And that's the one that I get is Sunday football.
I don't do anything else. And that also, not just them being younger than you, but that just like is what happened
to me in life too.
And UFC just ended up being the thing that I was like, I still want to watch the fights
when there's a big fight on.
I want to watch it.
That's the thing I'm most into and the most excited.
But it is it's weird.
Even when I think about it, dude, I was such a diehard Knicks fan.
I mean, I was like, I could have told you everything
about every single player, every single game,
every single year what happened.
And to a point now, and Knicks actually have
a really good team now, I just can't, I just don't,
I can't invest time in watching boys play.
Think about how ridiculous it is.
You're like, I have a wife and two children
who depend on me
I can't be watching boys play ball unless you bet the house on it. Well in that case, I'm doing it for the family
You're just not putting enough action on the games. There you go sponsor. This is your moment. Here we go
See they and they say we're not versatile on this podcast. All right, let's talk some some news and politics here. So
this is a big confirmation week. This is I believe Bobby and Tulsi are both going to
be up and cash Patel. I think that's all in my am I wrong? Cash Patel maybe is next week.
I fucking love America, bro. It's my cash Patel. I'm working on it. It's not it's not
bad. But this is going to be really interesting.
I mean, the Pete Hegseth one was somewhat interesting.
He ended up getting confirmed by a very small margin.
But there are, there's a real effort to take down Bobby Kennedy right now.
And so that is going to be an interesting one.
Obviously Tulsi Gabbard.
I'm going on with Emily from Breaking Points tomorrow.
We're going to be talking about that a bit.
But the Tulsi one, I think is-
CIA guy was confirmed.
Yes, yes.
What's his name?
Because he was one of the most vocal defenders of Trump
while the whole rags.
That rush cliff. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
I mean, it's such a local defender that he then left to become the CEO of truth
social and now got the CIA post. Yeah. Well, you know,
the thing about it is is, and you'll get this a lot. So like,
in the media, they will make a point of, of mentioning, you know,
things like a rat cliff or cash Patel or like a lot of these
guys, how they're such hardcore Trump loyalists. And there is,
if it makes sense, it reminds me a lot. It's very similar to
their conversation about concentrated power and Elon Musk
being in the White House while also owning these giant
companies and all of these things and
It's like yes in a vacuum
It would make sense to be concerned about this if none of this other shit existed and this was just the story
You'd go that's a little weird that these guys are so worshipy of Trump
That's a little bit weird that somebody who you know
Like there's a clear conflict of interest when you own billion dollar companies and you're in the White House, you know what I mean?
Like, but it's almost like, but you can't pretend this isn't a vacuum.
You can't pretend that all of these other things aren't going on too.
And for Donald Trump, it's like, yeah, his first four years in there,
his own government was working against him.
So obviously he has to try to put loyalists in and I guess we would prefer they were loyal to like some cause like draining the swamp or being America first or whatever.
But yeah, when you can't trust your own intelligence agencies, you got to bring your people with you. That's just the thing. And so likewise with the Elon Musk conversation, it's like, yeah, OK,
I could maybe take some of this like
alarmism seriously if
you guys weren't all on the side of
the Biden administration pressuring
the big tech people to censor Americans.
So now I'm supposed to just be
outraged about Elon Musk.
It's like, well, I don't know.
I mean, yes, I think there's a concern there,
but compared to what we've had before this,
it seems to be a lot better.
I don't know.
You get my point?
It's a fair claim.
All right.
Yeah, love reading from the chat here.
Love Tulsi, love Bobby.
Let's fucking go.
I'm with you, man.
I mean, look, Tulsi, love Bobby. Let's fucking go. I'm with you, man. I mean,
look, Tulsi and Bobby are about as good. They're as good of picks as you could possibly hope for.
I just don't know who was going to realistically, who was he going to pick for the health department
and for the director of national intelligence? The options were these were the best we could have gotten.
And that's why just because I've been paying attention to this shit for a long time, I
kind of know how DC works, although we are living in this new world.
That's why I'm a little concerned about them getting confirmed.
Because you take those guys out and you're going to get someone who the establishment
is much more comfortable with. So we will see. I wanted to talk a little bit about some immigration stuff that I found
interesting. I know you had sent to me on the notes that the thing with Columbia was
a is probably worth weighing in on what are your thoughts on that?
I mean, Trump bitch slapped him and instantly they, you know, they acquiesced.
The starting point is, I mean, the Trump administration is making some big claims
about who they're rounding up. They're claiming to have gotten terrorists and criminals.
Almost to a point where you're like, how did you know exactly where these specific criminals were
and how come nobody removed them sooner? There was the number floated on Fox News but I'll believe it when they actually
credit it but they were saying that 80,000 of the missing kids are already
found. Now that becomes a screwy number because missing kids can include that
they've been locked in someone's basement or that they just haven't
reported in once they were given a court date. So that that that fact and figures unclear.
But they're gung ho.
Every single person showing up for their cameo, putting on the fancy vest,
going for ride alongs.
And they're actually showing up into cities and rounding people up.
And so they put a plane to Colombia of, I guess, illegal people
who had snuck into the country from Colombia.
Colombia didn't want to take him back.
And Trump was like, all right, you want to play that game?
And then right away, they're like, no, no, no, you will
we'll take them all.
Well, he threatened them with sanctions and not letting the
kids would stop buying their cocaine.
That's all it really took.
Well, that's their economy runs on Trump's kids doing cocaine.
It is. Look, it it is
Look, it's interesting for for several reasons. Um
Number one and I know trump is aware of this because this is who donald trump is. Um, but
he's he's intentionally like
Creating this juxtaposition between him and biden and like proving in a way that the previous administration just didn't take this problem seriously at all.
It's also it's very interesting to me.
Not just didn't take it seriously.
I think that they were intentionally trying to get as many people over the border as possible.
Yes.
And then at a minimum, trying to cover up the crime elements that people wouldn know speak to the dangers of just letting anyone come across the border
Well, it's it look it's it's intentional. I mean there's no question about that and you're right
I probably under sold it but I look as I've said before right I like to use there's a bunch of analogies
I always like to use but I do like to use the one where I go look if I'm if I have
in AR 15 and
Plenty of ammo and I'm a trained killer and I know how to use my weapon and I have my weapon and four unarmed people break into my house to come kill my wife and kids and I just don't do anything.
I just let it happen.
Then you can deduce from that that that was intentional that I intentionally allowed my family to get killed because you have and that's the same thing with the Biden administration
in this flow of immigration I mean they had it and one of the things that's
interesting is that it reveals like how much of all the stuff on the campaign
was bullshit I mean when they were sitting there and saying oh we wanted to
solve this problem but you know three and a half years into it we put this
legislation forward and Trump's the one who killed it. Well, Donald Trump, I mean, just clearly,
I think there's just no debate about this. You can just see that Trump wants to do something
about this. And Biden didn't. Biden just was unwilling to do it. It is it is really fascinating to me how much, how far to the right the American people have moved on immigration.
Listen, mass immigration was never popular.
This has been true since like back in the 90s.
This is the reason why, you know what people I'm sure a lot of you guys see like the clips on social media
where you'll see old clips of
Bill Clinton talking like an immigration hawk or Hillary Clinton talking like an immigration hawk or John McCain or Barack Obama or any of them
Because that was always popular. That's what they would say during election times. They'd be like, yeah
We got a yeah kind of illegal immigration. That's like always been unpopular
But to see I mean the latest polling that I was looking at the New York Times had a piece
About this a few days ago the latest polling where super majorities of the American people now support mass
Deportations and that's just never been the case before in in my life
And I do think that it's you know, obviously like this is a part of Biden's legacy here
You had the worst immigration crisis and now now, of course, as a response to that,
you have more, it is more popular than ever to correct that.
From what I understand,
the illegal immigrants all carry COVID because they weren't vaccinated.
And so the liberals are comfortable being aggressive towards them.
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Well, it is...
I mean, look, we covered this on the show over the last couple years.
It was fascinating watching Eric Adams and some of these, you know,
the mayors of the sanctuary cities, these deep blue cities,
being like, hey, this is a real problem.
And I do, you know, a lot there's there's
a lot of different factors to all of this, but I really, I got to say,
and I believe it was primarily DeSantis and Abbott who were like started those
stunts where they would bus migrants to the blue states.
And I really think that like that did a lot to move the needle.
It really there, you could almost, you know, it was like from,
from 2016 ish until that, that when they started,
really the one that sticks out to me in my mind is when they sent them to Martha's
Vineyard, there was a big one. But like from 2016 to that, I
felt like that almost broke the spell. Like Democrats were all like they they
wanted to get Trump, they wanted to paint Donald Trump as a fascistic wannabe
dictator and immigration, he was running as an immigration hawk, so they went all
in on that's the issue that makes him Hitler, you know. And so then I guess we
got to be the opposite of that. We're against kids in cages. Even when it
was ridiculous, even when it was the facilities were built by the Obama
administration, but they'd still pin it on Trump as being some monster for
rounding people up or separating families, whatever the talking point in
2017 was. But I felt like that really broke the spell because once you saw
that you were like, oh, this is all a game
You're all pretending that this isn't a problem
But as soon as it touches you you have a huge problem with it
And I do think that in a way that gave permission for even you know
It was a the polling that I was looking at was um, I was just reading an article earlier today on axios
I think about it was they had, it was, and this is,
the question was supporting deporting all illegal immigrants was 50 50 amongst
Democrats. Wow.
50% of Democrats were on board with the Hitlerian policy of enforcing immigration
law. And that, I mean, We're on board with the hit larian policy of enforcing immigration law
and that I mean that is like just about as stark a
Quick change in political opinions as I could think of and then it was something it was in the 90s high 90s
amongst Republicans, so
Yeah, this is this is really drastically changed. Um, and I do think that
Donald trump in this example with columbia. He did demonstrate something and and look i'll be the first to
Acknowledge that it's not
He wasn't exactly following a libertarian blueprint. He was threatening government action. Um,
but it immediately
Made them bend the knee. I mean immediately and you just you do see that it's like
And I think this is so much of the dynamic that explains why Donald Trump is president is that you sit here
And this is why America first that had a resurgence and why this is such a popular term you sit here
we have the most powerful government in human history,
and it is never working for Americans. You know what I mean? Like you have this,
it's never working to get the thing done that the American people want,
anything that helps them at all. It's always working for some,
you know,
small group of weapons companies or bankers or insurance companies or whatever
But it's never working on behalf of the American people and there was just like an example right here where it's like, oh, yeah
Okay. So here you have an issue where there's overwhelming consensus
This is what the American people want and all Donald Trump did was just
Lightly put his thumb on the scale of like I'll threaten you with this big powerful government we have and they went. Oh, yeah
Well, we can't deal with that
So here whatever you want because that again
It's it's a point that I've made over and over again
Throughout the years and I've made this point about the US and Israel
Like a bunch when I've done, you know
a bunch of debates on Ukraine and a bunch of debates on like Israel-Palestine and I'd always make the point
that it's like what like why are you pretending that we don't hold all of the chips like we hold
all the chips here these so many of these problems can be solved very quickly if you just have the
desire to do it I mean like this is what I said. I was debating that Vash guy on Ukraine and I was like I was saying that we could get
Putin to do anything we wanted to do.
I mean short of like commit suicide or like you know like NATO right next to him.
Well listen, do you think and be honest about this.
Do you think that Vladimir Putin would end the war tomorrow if we agreed to pull out
of NATO? Oh, out. You mean just NATO tomorrow if we agreed to pull out of NATO?
Oh, out?
You mean just NATO not in Ukraine or the US out of NATO?
The US pulls out of NATO.
He'd end the war today.
Literally that would because he'd be able to sell this as the biggest victory ever.
If the US isn't involved, he doesn't even really give a shit about NATO being on his
borders.
It's like, what is he scared of France? No.
It's America's war machine is what he's concerned about. And so what we like we could get. So
again, if you just frame it the correct way, you're like, you're choosing to keep this war
going. We have all the chips. All we'd have to do is and by the way, it'd be a win for Americans
to pull out of NATO. We're just not subsidizing Europe's defense anymore. Great
What's the problem with that? And then his response to that when I was in this debate with him was like, oh, that's just like a libertarian online
idea
It's like okay. I mean right now it is
Why does it have to be and the same same with Israel Palestine Israel holds all the chips all the chips?
They have they're coming from such a stronger negotiating point.
They're the ones who occupy the Palestinians, right?
That like, if you're negotiating with the resistance group
under your brutal occupation,
you have the negotiating power, right?
And so like, it's just in all of these things,
and it's interesting to see Trump, like, almost in one of the rare times I've ever seen in my life, just using that a little bit on behalf of what the people of his country actually want, you know?
And it's, I don't know, it's just a fascinating, fascinating goddamn time to be alive.
All right. Any other thoughts on the immigration stuff, Rob?
Well, I was thinking of this while you were talking about how busing the immigrants and
how well that worked.
And I think the reason it works so well is because if you don't have the financial resources
or places to put people, it becomes an apparent issue very quickly.
And as it starts depleting your financial resources for people that are here illegally, that becomes an apparent issue very quickly. And as it starts depleting your financial resources
for people that are here illegally,
that becomes very apparent.
I'm not calling these people garbage,
but it's on the level of if people were going,
oh, I like garbage on my front lawn,
keep the garbage there.
And then you're like, all right,
well, then I'll move it to your front lawn.
And then you instantly were like,
oh, you called my bluff, I clearly don't want this here.
I mean, that's the level of no area wants to have to spend its
taxpayer dollars on housing, feeding, clothing and policing
illegal immigrants. That's not what you want to use the money
on. I wish there were other ways that we could, such as Donald
Trump's plan of sending Hillary Clinton to war. But I wish there
was more ways to call the bluffs on their, uh, on their,
you know, stupid policies. Well, it's a look, I mean, I'm, you know,
I've gone on this rant before and I'm sure I will again, but it's again,
it's, it's like another thing in the, like they demonize you.
If you want to build a wall, but they live in a gated community, they want to,
they, they want to enforce gun control, but they have armed security.
They have four mask mandates, but they have armed security. They're for mask mandates
But they're at their fancy restaurants without masks
it's like over and over all of these examples and yeah, look the example that I
Or the analogy that I always like to use which I'm still quite fond of is the the homeless people
Asking to stay in your house and And it's like, it's very easy. Like imagine me sitting here
and there's like a group of homeless people
who go up to my neighbor and they're like,
can we all stay in your house please?
Like we're homeless, we have nowhere to go.
And he's like, no, I'm sorry, you can't stay here.
And I just sit here and go, what a terrible person he is.
What an awful, I mean, think about these homeless people.
Think about how hard they have it.
And you've got room in your house,
you could take them in and you won't. And then you're like, have it and you've got room in your house you could take them in and
You won't and then you're like, well, how many do you have in your house? And you're like
I'd rather not get into that. You know what I mean? Like I'd rather not discuss that. No, no
In fact, I don't want them and you know, one of the things that I think is uh,
Is kind of challenging
it
Is that especially in the face of all the like insane gas lighting from liberals on this issue that
It is important kind of in a way for us to remember that
Look if if five homeless people come up and ask if they can sleep in my house
My answer is gonna be no because this is my house and this is for my family and their safety is my number one
Priority that doesn't mean that I can't also recognize that it's sad.
It's sad that those guys are homeless
and it's sad that they don't have a place to stay.
It's kind of sad that I can't help them.
You know what I mean?
It's like, it's, it's, and I do think that, you know,
obviously there's no, there's no issue like this
with violent criminals, violent criminals.
No one really gives a shit, deport them.
You know what I mean?
Who cares?
But there is an element to all of this that is kind of tragic and sad when it comes to like
regular people who are here illegally. And they're like, we can maintain both of the positions.
Like you can be like, listen, what Joe Biden did at the border was insane. Open borders are not
Biden did at the border was insane.
Open borders are not a rational policy.
And it's the American people clearly do not want it.
That being said, it also is kind of sad that some of these people are going to get rounded up and deported.
I'm sure there's some I'm sure there's a lot of them who are like decent people.
But.
Much like it would be sad, I guess, in some way, if I left my
house and a bunch of homeless people kind of took it over and started using it as shelter
and then I had to kick them all out, the question is really like whose house is it? And in this
case, the question is whose country is it? Like who has the right to make these decisions?
And I certainly don't think it should be politicians doing the exact opposite of what the American people want.
And you know, there's
and the blame is on Joe Biden.
Yeah.
Yeah, like that.
Yes.
It is tragic that people felt like they could sneak into the
country and that they could live a better life and that Joe
Biden created that illusion for them.
And now there's a consequence that they took a gamble
and a risk that wasn't necessary.
And many, or some of them will end up having to go home
because taking some of these people at random,
you wanna go for the criminals first,
but to the extent that some people randomly
do get shipped back and they went through
that entire escapade for nothing,
it prevents future people from going,
I want to take this risk. And so it's kind of a necessary action.
And if you ask me the fault,
the fault is on Joe Biden who wanted to bring as many people across this country
as possible.
Maybe it was to get more congressional seats in the hands of Democrats to get
more voters to seed chaos. Who knows what his agenda was, but the fault's on him.
Yeah, 100 percent.
And how on earth do you not see the backlash coming?
You know, like how it's so much of particularly the last 10 years is one of the things that's really stunning about it is it's not like because we're living through this kind of like this era of like decadent elites
uh who have totally just um
like fallen off and lost all
traces of impressiveness, you know, it's just like these people who are like
just I don't know just really unimpressive people and
If you just it's like I wonder sometimes like in a hundred years if a
historian was writing about this time period, how they would just look at it and be like,
wait a minute, so your plan was to just open the borders and flood in people from all over the world
and that while you were doing it, you were were gonna like promote all types of degeneracy
All you know like weird
sexualized fetishy stuff with kids and then just demonize men like
Demonize men over and over and over again and like and it never occurred to you that like this isn't a wise long-term
Strategy that there will be a counter reaction
to this like what do you think i mean like even just like normalizing the demonization of young
men like where did you think that was gonna go you know like the like however you feel about young men
there's a reason why they're the ones we rely on to like fight wars and be police and do you
know like there's a role for them in society and they're the ones in society typically speaking who
like are the most capable of violence, are the most capable of imposing their will on you. Maybe
it wasn't a wise move to like poke at that bear over and over and over again.
You know, so much of it.
I remember, like, just being kind of blown away,
especially as somebody who was like, look, I'm a libertarian.
I'm not like a like a hard right winger.
I don't.
And I really mean this.
I don't have weird. I don't care how people live their lives essentially.
You know, like I don't... I do care what's promoted and what's pushed on other people.
I don't really care, you know, if people are gay or straight or live a traditional lifestyle or an alternative lifestyle.
Like that's, you know, that's your business. You live your life the way you see fit.
But I just couldn't imagine not, you know, like not seeing the issue with all of this,
not seeing that like, well, this is going to blow up in our faces.
Obviously, there's going to be a counter reaction and an overcorrection probably
But it's just it's very bizarre very bizarre that that was not foreseen
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Well, when you censor the internet,
potentially rig an election,
get everyone to take a vaccine that they don't need
and keep them in their homes, you start getting greedy.
Yeah, yeah, well, I think that's a big part of it, right?
And that there's this thing that,
it's kind of a natural tendency of monopoly in general to just get
really, really shitty, give really, really shitty service. And the I think a lot of these
people were just drunk on power. And they had been in power for so long, they were like,
fuck it, we can keep we can keep doing this, we can keep winning. But yeah, I mean, in
hindsight, it really is. It's bizarre.
You know, also, I mean, I guess maybe this is like a little bit illogical or
something, but there is also the fact that the immigrants are from everywhere.
That makes me like less sympathetic.
Like you just, you know, like Mexico is, you know, Mexico is our neighbor to the south.
They are kind of in many ways,
at least in many parts of the country.
It's not so true here where we live in the Northeast,
although even there, I just grew up with Mexicans
or all over the, but Mexicans worked in every business
and Mexicans were pretty, you know,
like they're Mexican neighborhoods
and Queens and stuff like that.
And Mexico is kind of our sister society, you know, I mean, maybe Canada a little bit more, but like
Mexico, you know, if you lived in Arizona or Texas or Southern California or something, it's like,
yeah, Mexico is right there. We kind of know that. And yes, there's always, there's always been,
you know, day laborers who are coming and working here. And there's always been immigration from Mexico.
It's just a little bit different than like, when you start seeing
like, you know, like, Africans and, and Chinese nationals and
stuff like that here, you're like, you know, what the fuck are
you doing here? Like, if you didn't come in legally, you
shouldn't be here. Like, we'll always understand that, like,
okay, our neighbor to the south south especially when we're a much richer
country than them some of them are gonna want to come over here like that's kind
of a normal part of Americanism but fucking Chinese nationals being here
like no that's not fucking American it's just like makes and and I think that
also was you know if you remember when Bobby Kennedy first went to the border and he came back being like yeah
We do need to build a wall like this is kind of crazy
That was what his big thing was he was like, yeah, I was shocked that it's not southern America. It's not a southern South Americans
It's like Africans and Asians. What are they doing here? Then? Of course, we all do know that this stuff was I mean at least
year. Then of course we all do know that this stuff was I mean at least there was certainly large amounts of UN funding that that went into it, which is, you know, basically us
our government funding it. And then I don't really know. I mean, I'm sure somebody's done
some good investigative reporting on this, but how much NGO money was going into those
caravans that I think it's billions of dollars. Yeah, yeah.
And you can do a lot, you know.
And I think we will find out as some of this racket gets uncovered.
And I think the Trump administration is doing a good job of actually selling.
Look at how horrible this was.
And, you know, Trump's only a couple days in office and they're posting daily.
Look at who we just, look at these criminals that we just seized Um, i'd be pretty surprised if the billions of dollars that were being spent by ngo's
Weren't in in part funded by government. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. No almost certainly
um and uh, or
Whether directly or indirectly, you know, but it could be like as simple as the red
I don't even know if the united states gives money to the red cross
But it could be like the united states gives you know know 100 million dollars the Red Cross for meals in this area
and then it's like the camp where these people get moved to happens to be where the Red Cross
is feeding them type deal right so you might as well just be handing the money to them right and
listen I know this just from reading a lot about like the color revolution stuff a lot of times and it's one of the interesting dynamics in politics, right?
Is like, so if you, you know, if you,
you could buy a politician for like, you know,
a couple million bucks, but the policy that they enact
could move hundreds of billions of dollars,
you know what I mean?
So like, but someone like, let's say there, you know,
there's a young congressman or something like that
who's coming up and he's making 200 grand a year
or whatever the congressional salary is now,
a little higher than that.
There's like less than 300 grand a year.
And like, you know, this is a guy who maybe just started
making a low six figure salary.
Now he could be bought for a few million dollars.
But his vote is worth so much more than that.
But you don't have to spend $10 billion to bribe one guy.
You could just give him a couple million,
and they'll be happy with that.
And likewise, with a lot of these policies,
if you think about that, it's in the billions of dollars
or something like that
Think about how much money that is to get a caravan going and get some people over here
It's just like it's not that much money in the grand scheme of a central government that spends seven trillion dollars
But like in so for it in the Maidan Revolution in Ukraine for example, right?
So this was the big thing is they got I think at one point
It was close to like a million people were in the streets and they had a lot of people in the streets
Now it wasn't at least if i'm remembering this correctly. It's been a little while since I read about this it
But it never broke 50 percent
Um, like approval rating with the country so it wasn't you know what I'm saying? Like if you think about these things like
You know, it's easy on January 6. There were like thousands of people protesting, right?
But if I were to ever say to one of you guys like that's the American people
That's the will of the American people you'd immediately be like well, no, no, no, no. Hold on. Hold on
There's like a whole huge portion of Americans who completely reject all of this stuff
And in fact Donald Trump's approval rating at the time was like in the 30s
It wasn't like he was like this enormously popular president, right?
So likewise so in the Maidan Revolution what happens is the NGOs?
Start the protest
In late 2013, okay, so they start the protest. Now they're
protesting over Yanukovych pulling out of the EU deal. He was making a, he was, at
first he wanted to do the deal, then ultimately he got seduced by Putin,
turned off by the EU, and he pulls out of the deal and goes to make a deal with Putin an economic deal and
So then they're protesting that now the NGOs start the protest
It's George Soros and his guys and the what's his name?
I was blank on his name, but the guy who owns the intercept out of my ear or something like that
It's these guys start it and they brag about it. They talk openly about how they started. They kicked off the Maidan protest. So then they go down there and you get
a little bit of a protest going and then Yanukovych starts like brutally putting down the protest
and then more people start protesting that. But here's the big problem they have. Now it's December
2013 in Ukraine. So you're going into the Ukrainian winter
Okay, how do you keep a protest movement going through the brutal Ukrainian winter?
Well tens of millions of dollars start pouring in from the National Endowment for Democracy USAID and all these
NGOs they also but so they bring out heat lamps for everybody and they put on like a rock concert
They get all these Ukrainian celebrities to come down there. So now it's a carnival
it's a carnival with heat and with everything and if you think about it, right like
Imagine imagine any protest imagine like we try to start a protest and let's say even like we bring a few thousand
We get a few thousand people together, you know, we we promote it the podcast and we start protesting, you know, the Federal Reserve or something like
that. I mean, imagine someone just give us 50 million dollars. Like, hey, here's 50 million
dollars for your protest movement. You'd be like, whoa, we got a lot of possibilities now. We could
do all types. So this is how they keep the thing going all through the winter and keeps putting
more and more and more pressure on Yanukovych until ultimately he he
flees for his life. But then people will look at that and go, what are you talking about Dave? That
was just the will of the Ukrainian people. That's not a US backed coup. But like yes it fucking
totally is. Because if you didn't put that money in there's no way this movement would have,
first of probably wouldn't have started to begin with. But second off you could. So anyway the point
is just that even just with what?
Relatively speaking are little bits of money like 50 million dollars and it was it was probably more than that in the made-on revolution
I think it was closer to a hundred million
But even a hundred million dollars when you're talking about governments that spend seven trillion dollars not much money
You know like if you if you cut or added a hundred million dollars from the US federal budget you wouldn't even notice it
But but dude it can move trillions of dollars Like if you if you cut or added a hundred million dollars from the US federal budget, you wouldn't even notice it
But but dude it can move trillions of dollars when you when you put it in right at the right spot You know and that's what this like whole that's what the whole soft power is. They call it the whole game is
It's like putting your thumb on the scale just enough to get the result that you want while having some level of plausible deniability.
But I think there's no question that that's what was happening with the
immigration here.
You could just kind of look at it and be like, this isn't organic.
This doesn't just organically happen.
You don't just organically have Chinese nationals crossing the U S southern
border. Like what's going on here?
And then of course that is what's going on.
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Dave Robb yesterday.
The NIV, DIA.
What is this? NVIDIA and what I know this,, what is this?
NVIDIA.
I'm sorry.
Well, NVIDIA has been the hot tech stock.
Everyone's pouring the most amount of money into on the growth forecast. Stick away from investment advice, but not investment advice because I'm not allowed
to give that.
And I don't put any of my money in the market and I keep it under my bed so that the government
can rob it through inflation.
And then I don't have to worry about the neighbors coming and stealing it from underneath my
mattress.
So that's the nice thing about it.
There you go.
You know, honestly, I just don't I don't know enough about this to really even have a take on it.
Well, the short scoop is that, you know, I mean, our entire tech sector of the stock market's been through the roof. But people are all excited for the AI growth. And that that's the next wave of technology. And then you get this Chinese corporation that comes along. And with using a lot less chips, they put something that's comparative to chat GPT on the market for free.
And everyone's like, oh, maybe we're not as far ahead in this game.
And, you know, that's the beauty of free markets.
People can come in and compete and make products available, you know,
for less money to the public.
And then, you know, the profit margins he thought you were going to have in chat GPT or whatever else might have just gone. for less money to the public.
And then the profit margins you thought you were going to have in chat GPT or whatever else might have just gone.
Yeah, well, this is always the risk with investing in stuff that is not real.
Or that you don't exactly understand what it's actually going to be.
what it's actually going to be.
There's things like, now by the way,
I'm sure people made a ton of money investing in Google, over the years, but I remember always thinking,
dude, there were search engines before Google. But I remember always thinking,
government. Uh, but there's things like this that people invest so much in. And you're like, yeah, but what if like a better version just comes out and then
this is just gone. Like this could go to zero.
There's no intrinsic value to it at all. What's,
what's Meta crawlers stock trading at these days? Anyone? You remember that one?
That used to be the one that, uh, we would use that my, or in like my high school,
where we'd use like the computer in the computer room. It like they're so weird to by the way computers did nothing back then
But we all thought they were cool and be like I want to go on the computer like and do what like literally nothing
But anyway, I'm a triangle around I remember that game
Yeah, yeah, there's some weird old get Gertrude's puzzles and stuff. Yeah, that's some fun ones
Was a whole bunch of There's some weird old get Gertrude's puzzles and stuff. Yeah, that's some fun ones.
Was, hold on,
Audid
Odigity
wrote, Dave, can you bring some focus to unschooling this year?
Yeah, what is that?
Unschooling is like,
it's like homeschooling, but it's like a more of an
emphasis, I think on like, like giving your kids more autonomy or something
like that. I mean, I, you know, I don't know that there's really like that much
I would say about it. I think kids have plenty of time to research porn on the
internet. If my mom came to me in eighth grade and is like, what are your
interests? Let's bake cookies and I'm going to be upstairs.
I'll be conducting my own research.
You know, I, you know, I've, I've talked about this for years. I mean,
I talked about this even before I had kids, but to me it's almost like,
you know, I think that, you know, the, the,
the school model,
the Prussian school model is like totally designed to stamp
out this very natural thing in kids.
And you don't like I don't really think it's rocket science.
Parenting always came kind of natural to me.
It's like you you just kind of love your kids and you encourage them and the things they're interested in.
But kids are one of the things that's amazing about little, about little kids, if you hang out with a three
or a four year old, I mean literally if you go upstairs
right now and talk to my three year old,
he's from a very young age, my daughter was just like this
too, like they're all like this.
What kids do, and everybody who's at,
anyone who has a little kid, like your sister's had
little kids and I'm sure you got little kids
in your family, Natalie, anyone who has little kids, you know this had little kids and I'm sure you got little kids in your family Natalie
Anyone has little kids, you know this it's like two things that they they all naturally do and they do with such a desire
Okay, number one is
They ask you a million questions
They always want to know why that's like kind of the running joke like why why why I remember with my daughter was like four
I used to joke around about this to my wife that, I called it the three whys.
I was always three whys away from being out of options.
You know what I mean?
Like, I'd be like, ooh, it's a hot day today.
And my little four year old would be like, why?
And I'd be like, well, cause the sun is very hot.
And it's out today.
And she'd go, why?
I was like, well, it's a big ball of fire
As he goes why and I'm like, yeah, that's yeah
It's a really excellent question kid. I got no answer for you on that
Well, you know, you're always like three degrees of why before I realize I'm also a child and I know nothing
And I guess none of us really know anything
But this is just constant it's constant questions about everything like they and if you think about that, it's really kind of interesting
I mean like they have this profound desire
For knowledge like they want to understand they want to know and the other thing that little kids and I mean like three four years
Old they all have is they all want to participate
They want to participate in the adult world
They really my three-year-old is super, I mean if my wife starts baking something, he wants to do the stirring or he wants to
and then at the end of it he wants to say I helped. Like we made this and I helped.
You know like little things, I mean if you give my my six year old, now if you give her a task,
she's thrilled. She's thrilled. Hey, can you help me fold the laundry?
Can you go grab this and bring it in here?
Can you go?
She's like, yes, got it.
And she really loves that she's being helpful.
And if you just think about that for a second,
how amazing that is.
You have these little precious, adorable little rats,
and they just wanna learn and participate
in the adult world like so intensely that you know, and it brings like
Your job is so simple. It's like oh, yeah nurture that that's all like it's just it always came so natural to me
Like it's just so obvious and instead what we've done, you know collectively as a society to talk like a commie for a second
Um is we've got oh, I know what we should do.
We should, starting at six years old,
put them in a row of desks
and tell them to memorize and regurgitate.
Memorize and regurgitate.
Like, what?
Who came up with that?
Oh yeah, the Prussians.
Because they wanted loyal servants of the government.
That's what they were trying to create
So it's like yeah, you just don't do that shit, you know, don't send and now there are alternative schools that do a much better
Job, you got to find them and they're usually expensive which you know, so that homeschooling is not expensive, but it is
Demanding on your time
So you got to figure out like I'm not trying to downplay that there's
like difficulties uh to like navigating all this stuff and i'm somewhat fortunate in that department
but like that to me it's like it's all there already it's it's almost like asking like how do
you how do you create a good relationship with your kids it It's like, well, I don't know, they're there in, so just be cool to them. Like, I don't know, be good,
be sweet to them. That's like the way to do it. Cause they're all no, but you
know, like they're,
it's true that like teenagers rebel against their parents and stuff like that,
but little kids don't you're fucked.
No five year old ever doesn't want to have a catch. I've never said to, uh,
I've never said to my six year old-old or my three-year-old,
like, hey, you want to go outside and play?
And they're like, nah, not feeling it.
You know, they always want to.
So you just got to nurture it.
And I think it's like, I don't know.
In my experience, it's like the most rewarding thing
you could ever do.
My strategy with my kids is you leave them and send checks
Mom knows best
Oh here, this is a Adam asks Dave is LP chair heist verse Amash basically
What's the deets on that sure sure so we could that's actually not a bad
biggest victory ever and
Drops the mic what happened here well she's uh got evidently got a new project coming up
and I don't I do not have info on what this is but I could guess what you know
it might be um but I don't know anything so I don't want to like say that but yeah
she's got a new project coming up so she's she stepped down, which, you know, look, that's Angela
just did an absolutely incredible job as the chair of the Libertarian Party. I mean, like,
it's you cannot overstate what an incredible job she did. She didn't you almost can't grade
it on like any scale, because what she pulled off was so seemingly out of the realm of possibilities,
that like nobody would have even thought.
I didn't, I like, I remember when she first told me that,
uh, that Trump was coming to the convention and that she had gone to Mar-a-Lago
and had been, you know,
negotiating like Ross's pardon and all this other stuff. I couldn't believe it.
It was like, are you what?
Really?
He's going to be at Ark and Valor.
Are you sure about that?
Anyway, look, Angela's just been great.
I mean, she's been just from the first time I ever met Angela,
just totally impressed with this woman.
I mean, she's just like super smart, fearless,
relentless, incredibly hardworking,
incredibly organized and detail oriented.
You know, I met her back.
This must have been like,
you know, what year did I meet Angela?
And I'm trying to remember actually now.
I may have met her before, like the lockdowns,
but when I actually got to remember actually now.
was giving free legal help to small business owners who were defying the lockdowns and staying open and trying to help
them navigate through how to avoid you know, facing the
harshest penalties over it and stuff like that. So it was it
was incredible. She did incredible work there. She went
to the Soho forum, debated that Cato fool over vaccine mandates
and just cleaned his clock.
And when Heiss was like, we want her to be, she's going to be our person for chair for the Mises caucus, you know, take over.
I was like, yes, perfect. And she saved Ross's life.
So, you know, just she did an incredible job.
She's stepping down. And yeah, from what I saw, I know Heiss is going for the position. And from what I saw, Justin Amash is entertaining it.
Good candidates.
I would say I'll just say this.
Look, first of all, I love Justin Amash and I do not have a negative thing to say about him.
I tried my best to help him
during his Senate run.
And the truth is that despite all the faction wars
and the Libertarian Party and all that stuff,
I've just always had a good relationship with Justin Amash.
Like I've always, every time we've ever been
in the same room or at the same event
or on a, you know on a show or whatever together.
We did one, I think it was like a clubhouse thing we did back
when that was before Twitter Spaces kind of put them out
of business.
But I just always really like the guy.
And I think he's one of the greatest
congressmen to ever live.
And we certainly could do a lot worse than him
as the chair of the party.
Listen, I'm supporting Heiss for this position. I think Heiss is the guy who has...
Heiss has put in the work.
You know, like, Heiss has actually made the party his life's focus
for many years at this point.
And I just think that makes it...
But look, I'll say this.
I think what would really be the best thing for the party
is if that is the case, if it's Heiss and Justin Amash
both going for the chair,
they should have either a debate or some type of forum
where they both lay out their vision for the party.
I think that's the healthiest thing
and the best thing for the Libertarian Party. It's like have these two guys who are both very smart,
very capable, and and really care about the party and the movement. Have them
lay out their visions, have them give their critiques of the other ones, and
what you know what I mean? Like and let the members decide. I mean I think that
would be the healthiest and best thing for the party
So that I would fully support about the guy who likes walking into people's elbows. Is he still around?
He's always around but I don't think I don't think he's coming back into that position
Alright like selling cars. Okay. Yeah, that's right. Alright, we got to wrap up on that one
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