Part Of The Problem - The Coalition is Officially Dead

Episode Date: March 19, 2026

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Rob. I am a, there's not like coming back from family vacation being like, man, I need another vacation. That just took the life out of me. Dude, it's, I, so I took the family to Disney for a week and is great. You know, I know it's a big evil corporation and all that, but the kids, the kiddos just love it. You know, they have an amazing time. But for people have been through it, this was my second time. This one was longer. It's a being a dad at Disney is, it's, it's, It's a lot. It was a lot of fun, but man, does it beat you up? You know, it's just, you're just, you know, all day. You're carrying bands and strollers.

Daddy, I need a bathroom. Daddy, daddy, daddy. You don't stop moving the entire time you're there and you're the dad. So you're always carrying the heaviest shit. You know, I'm there with my, you know, I got two kids, my wife and her parents. So I'm the one, you know, like I'm just, I mean, she was the what she planned out the whole thing. I shouldn't say that. It's me and her. She did a lot of that, but I, you know, just a lot of work.

And I don't know. Anyway, it was a great time. It was a little bit strange in a way, just everything going on. You know, this was planned out six months in advance. And, yeah, just a little bit weird. I mean, because I do think this is just like such a dark time for our country, genuinely. And I also just have, I have a friend who had like a family tragedy. It just felt like a little bit weird of a time to go there.

But then, of course, once you're there, my cute kids can suck me into their world, you know, very easily. And we all start, you know, having a great time. Anyway, I, you know, I tried at, you know, I checked the news times here and there. And I tried to keep in touch with everything. There's been so much. And then when I got them to sleep at night, I would just go on tweet storms and, you know, try to give my take on some of this. because Rob, this is like, this is one of those episodes where there's just so much. You know, we got, I don't know, several episodes worth of content here and stuff to talk about

really important stuff. But, you know, as exhaustive as I am coming back here, I was just like, I can't wait to talk to you guys till tomorrow. We have to do it tonight. I can't wait to talk to you, Rob. I see you without podcasting, just being on the lines and being that guy who's chewing people's years off. Like, do you not know what's going on right now?

We're at war. Why are we here? No, no, no. I wasn't doing that to other people. I mean, me and my father-in-law were talking a whole bunch about it. But no, no, no. But I'll tell you, there's one funny thing about Disney. I don't know why.

This was just making me laugh so hard on the trip. But so, you know, my, you know, so anyway, you can picture. My two kids are in a double stroller. You know, my two, my mother-in-law and father-in-law are on two scooters. and me and my wife are just walking for seven days. But, you know, so like my father-in-law, he's had like double knee replacement surgeries. And, you know, he's got some hip issues. He's like 74.

He's, you know, he's not going to walk the entire, you know, so he gets a scooter. But then he'll start, like, tightening it up and stuff. And he'll be like, I got to walk for a little bit. And so I take the scooter. But now at this point in my career, like, I, you know, I'm not like a huge famous guy, but I get recognized a lot. and so I'm just going around and I mean Rob it looks like I got a scooter for myself and I make my 75 year old father-in-law walk and people are like hey Dave Smith and a couple times I was in that scooter I was like have man that but I really want to like I wanted to say he wanted he wanted me to do that this is his he wanted to walk a little bit but I didn't anyway okay let's get into it man where where to start Rob I mean what do you say we got to start with Joe Ken right Yes.

This is the, you know, big, there's a bunch of stuff that we're going to have to comment on here, but it kind of just seems like let's talk about the biggest, latest thing first, and then go into the other stuff. So, okay, Joe Kent resigned and put out an unbelievable resignation letter. I've really never seen anything like this, Rob. You know, he was the director of counterintelligence. And he resigned over the war, said there was no imminent threat. Confirmed what all of us know.

I just, I genuinely don't see how this is one of those things where it's like there are two sides, like the people who are lying to you and the people who aren't. There's just no person who looks into this can actually think there's any reason to suspect there was any imminent threat coming. And in fact, our own goddamn, you know, national security advisor. is on record saying that the threat was that Israel was going to attack, and then Iran was going to respond and hit some of our guys. So the threat was Israel, not that.

Anyway, it's not just that he said that, but it's also that he said that this war is like Israel and the Israel lobby pulling us into a war. It's just a goddamn big deal for the director of counterintelligent. You know, there were resignations during Joe Biden over Gaza, but nothing this high level. I don't know. What do you think, Rob?

So I could be wrong here, but I believe he was the director of counterterrorism, not counterintelligence. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I apologize. I'm miss speaking. Yes, counterterrorism.

That's correct. And going loop-de-loopty on all these Disney rides. You got the song. Yes. It's highly understandable. It's been a long few days. All right, guys, let's take a moment and thank our sponsor for today's show,

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And, uh, it's nice to actually see someone put that directly in paper. This is behalf on the Israel lobby. And I'm sure we're going to be segueing shortly to, uh, the hearing that went on today. But my God, uh, Tulsi Gabbard, unbelievable. I mean, she's the one that really needs to resign and speak out against this. And I can't believe that she wants that job. this badly that she's unwilling to do it. Yeah. You know, I, again, I, listen, I, I said last summer when Tulsi Gabbard, I mean, after giving her annual

threat, I mean, just think about how crazy this is, after giving her annual threat assessment and testifying under oath before Congress, she said that Iran has not made the political decision to start attempting to make nuclear weapons. That's what she said, that they weren't trying to do it. That the 60, knowing about the 60% enriched uranium, that whole thing that was the justification, she said, full well, knowing that with an IAEA report on her front desk that said they are enriching at 60% uranium, she goes, yes, but they have not decided that they're making a bomb. In other words, Rob, why do you enrich up to 60% if you're not planning on making a bomb. Asking the question differently, why wouldn't you just break out and make the bomb?

Once you've enriched to this left, once you've mastered the fuel cycle, you've enriched to 60%. You can make nuclear weapons. They can do it. They've proven they can do it. So what, by implication of her testimony, what she's saying is that, yeah, they're hanging out here for what reason? To have, you know, a nuclear threshold status, to have a bargaining chip, to have, You know what I mean to say, hey, listen, we want to let you know that we could make a bomb, but we haven't made the decision to make one yet. I mean, that, okay, so then right after Israel bombs them, she goes, they were months away. Like, you know, I said back then, I posted on Twitter that, you know, she just became the colon pal of this administration.

And this is, you know, I don't know. Again, it's not, it's very hard to resist that I told you so urge. It's a human thing. I guess it's kind of an ugly quality. But it's just like, not just on behalf of me, but like ever, as I've been saying,

every critic of the 12 day war man has been so goddamn vindicated, Rob, so vindicated. Because Colin Powell, is that not the perfect thing to call her? The one in the administration

who fucking knew better and still didn't do shit still went along with it. The one, you know, okay, I guess we just have to play the Tulsi video now.

Maybe some more things to say about Joe Ken in a second. I will just say, It is a little bit concerning that the head of counterterrorism in this country just decided, I don't want any part of this. What does he know is coming? I don't want to scare people too much, but there's a little bit something concerning that most people don't resign and make this move.

And it's usually because they know that they don't want to be a part of the mess. That's really the only reason to do it unless you're an honorable person and none of these politicians ever are. Well, listen, I get that, but I will say in the case of Joe Kent, you know, look, So fine, let's do Jo Can a little bit and then we'll go back to Tulsi. Okay, so in the case of Joe Ken, listen, the dude really is like a decorated combat vet who lost his wife in these wars. And like, he has not always been great on everything, but I think that this is a heroic move one way or the other. Like even if he's doing it with self-interested, you know, whatever. Like, I just don't want to be a part of this mess or whatever it is.

But I think it's quite possible that you could just take him at his word on this. That he's just, he, he's kind of a unique case. He's not just like your average politician. This is a dude who was like really in this. And I think really did have like a sincere kind of like change of heart about our foreign policy. And again, I don't know. But I wouldn't, look, is there a concern where you're talking about the counter-terrorism terrorism stuff. Like, look, man, we've, how many terrorist attacks have we seen since this war started

already? This has not been going on long. And we've, I had three, I think. And so, like, I don't know on that front, but I think it also just could be that, look, if you, if you're really against this policy and you care about the country at all, or maybe you actually care about more people over there over there dying at all, this is a huge thing you could do right now for the anti-war movement. And so who knows for sure what's, you know, what's motivating any of this. But I just don't see, like, I've seen people like speculating about different conspiracy theories or something like that he's doing this as a play to do. But none of it, none of that really seems to make too much sense to me. And so some people on Twitter saying like this is part of a play to like help J.D. Vance like shield, you know, blame from this.

But how does that make sense? How does he, how does him resigning help J.D. Vance at all when J. when Jady Vance is still there and has to say he's going along with this shit. Jaddy Vance is done. His political career is over. It's so funny, man, I've seen people, sorry, sorry, Rob, I'll let you in here. I apologize. I'm rambling.

But I, you know, I see people, some of these commentators talking about how, like, Marco Rubio is going to be the next nominee or something like that. Like, you think this country's electing Marco Rubio? Are you guys this out of touch? Do you know how much bigger the populist support in the Republican bases over the, neocon support. No winning elections. But anyway, go ahead.

I was just going to say it could be you climb up high enough the government ladder and some people can't handle the heat of just how much Israel there is. You know, you go high enough, you're like, wait, it's this much Israel? I can't do this. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Well, it's possible. But anyway,

it's a big deal. It's a big deal to have that guy resign. Anyway, in verbatim, in verbatim that this is a war on behalf of Israel. I mean, that should be the highest of conspiracies and he just said it, put it in writing. You know, I see people, because one of the other, you know, very interesting things about Joe Kent, and this is one of the great things in a way he did for us is when something like this happens, it exposes a lot of the war hawks. and, you know, look, the theme of the last two plus years in this country really has been the Warhawks being exposed to the public.

Now, that hasn't affected policy one bit, obviously, but that has been a major, like, cultural force in America. And what you, to see him having this record that he has and then being like a conscientious objector to another war, in the Middle East, which Rob, I mean, we have like super majorities is like an understatement. Like there was like a as goddamn close to a political consensus amongst the people of this country that we do not want to fight more stupid regime change wars in the Middle East. You know, and here you have a guy, a conscientious objector resigning over that. He's a decorated veteran. He lost his wife in this whole thing.

And immediately Ben Shapiro and Mark Levine and every dumb woman. Warhawk in the country starts calling him a coward and he's weak, he's this. I mean, dude, it's just, I don't know, it's just so, you just see who these people are. You know, like even if he was wrong and they thought, no, no, no, this is the one that's going to go right, even though they all else went bad. You'd have to admit, look, I get where a goddamn combat vet of these wars wouldn't want to do this anymore. And that to me is just, I mean, it's, you know, in a way, you're kind of like happy about it because it's, well, look, you're revealing yourself in front of everyone even more. You're being exposed. But it is just so despicable. Just really, really, like the worst of humanity. You're like, who are you people? You like even made of the same stuff that the rest of us are? Like, you know what I mean? Like, I don't know. Anyway, let's be.

play the Tulsi clip. Let's get to that. Suarez, do you have that one? Thanks. Oh, I'm sorry. This is the one where is the YouTube. So we've got actually a few different portions of this that we're going to play. We got a bunch of content here from Tulsi. Sorry, keep going, Swares. Seen consequences of the war. And that strikes me, Madam Director,

is what amounts to a historic mistake. Now, my second question is, did the intelligence agencies assess that the Iranians could respond to a regime change attack from us by attacking U.S. forces and other Americans in the region. The IC assessment has always taken very seriously the threat of the Iranian regime's missile capabilities and how our American troops within the region may be put at risk. Again, you know, it seems to me with Americans dying in the war, it's hard to see how you can sit here and say that the intelligence agencies couldn't provide a clear

warning that if attacked, the Iranians would respond by attacking our people. Now, on Monday, Madam Director, Donald Trump was asked about Iranian strikes on the Gulf States. He said, and I quote, nobody, nobody, no, no, no, the greatest experts, nobody thought they were going to hit the Gulf States. You all are supposed to be the greatest experts. That's what we have you there for. Director Gabbard did the intelligence agencies assess that Iran could conduct strikes on our own partners in the region if it was attacked. The intelligence community has continued to assess the potential threats to the region, the existing threats to the region, and providing those assessments to the policy makers and

decision makers. All right. Let me move. Yeah, pause it, pause it right there. I mean, that, listen, man, just pause it right there. I mean, what you have here is just, this Tulsi Gabbard lying us into, war that's what we got you know i got to say man um there were always issues with tulsi gabard um you know if you remember rob i mean we she was only ever half good on the war on terrorism to begin

with um if you remember we had an episode back in i want to say it was uh two thousand twenty three and i believe the title was tulsi you're the terrorist where i really went pretty hard on her um she's uh but you know i i do got to say to something i also was never very impressed with with her like intellectually. I just remember, I remember there was one time when I went on Rogan, when the Ukraine war had first started, and then I had a whole thing on that. And it went like super viral, the clip.

At the time, it was like the biggest clip I had ever had out. And it really, you know, like, I don't know, I just got, at that time, I got more like heat off that. And I thought it was cool because it, a lot of people got to hear what I had to say on it and I thought it was important or whatever. And then Tulsi went on the next episode. And so I had played, I had told Joe about the, you know, that Gideon Rose interview with Stephen Colbert. You know what I'm talking about where he's breaking down how we're stealing Ukraine away from him? And it like blew Joe's mind. I hadn't seen it before. He's like, yo, that's crazy.

Like a lot of people like didn't know about the whole made on revolution and the American involvement and stuff like that. And so he has around the next day. And he has around the next day. And he asked her about it. So then he plays it again on the show. And I was like, oh, man, this is awesome. Like back-to-back episodes. He played that video. And then he throws it to Tulsi. And I was like, yo, this is crazy. We're both going to like destroy this war. And then he goes, so Tulsi, what's going on here? And Tulsi goes, you know, I forget exactly, but it was literally something like, you know, the problem is that the military industrial complex has far too much power in Washington, D.C.

And we are no longer a government of for and by the people. We are government of for and by the military industrial complex. So like something like this. And I was like, oh, I, at the time, I kind of really respected Tulsi. And I was like, oh, maybe I'm going to learn something from her. Maybe she's going to have a nugget that, like, I didn't know, you know, that she knows. She was in the Congress and all that, you know. And you just kind of like, but I do have to say, you know, when she when she used to do that,

like her little schick about like my brothers and sisters you know she was embedded in a medical unit in some of the worst years in Iraq so she saw some shit you know what she saw and she used to talk about her brothers and sisters needlessly dying in this war that politicians led us into and I got to say to Tulsi and I hope you hear this like you really had me going there for a little bit with that you know for I kind of believed you on that part of of it. I kind of believe that you actually gave a shit about the people you watched having their limbs blown off and shit like that, you know? And yet here you are lying us into a fucking war that you've been predicting fucking publicly for at least a fucking decade would go this way.

What the fuck are you talking about? The president of the United States said that no one could have predicted this. I predicted this. I'm an idiot. Fucking Scott Horton. predicted this and John Meersheimer predicted this and Jeffrey Sachs predicted this and Tucker Carlson predicted this and the fucking Pentagon predicted this. What are you talking about? Yeah. Well, she's going to sit there and just fucking dodge the question. Yeah. She can't criticize the president. And so she completely dodges the question and just says, we're accumulating information. And as we get information, we give it to the president, which is not an answer of yes or no. Was the president informed?

this or and if not why were our intelligence agencies completely blind to this level of risk yeah but and of course the answer is they weren't they weren't blind to this they all knew it's why generals were warning Donald Trump not to do this um you know it's I don't know it's there there is just something about watching these people like you're you're fucking destroying our country man you're like what are you doing what are you doing you're risking all of this just killing all these people And, and, you know, like, it's like, anyway, I don't know, but Tolsey here, and I'll say this, because I've heard from a few different people who have said that, um, something like along the lines of, yeah, well, you know, Tulsi resigns and they're just going to put someone worse in there.

You're like, oh, yeah, someone who might lie us into war. It's like, what, you're going to put someone worse in there? Like you, um, you are worse now. you're as bad as any of them if you'll do this. No, I'm just saying like, this is the whole thing. What do you mean worse? Worse is this.

This is worse. Worse is lying us into a war. Like that's the thing. What's the worst thing? The Director of National Intelligence can do. It's this. It's what Tolsey's doing right now. And it's about the war that she sold t-shirts to get,

keep us out of. It's the war she's been talking about, her whole political career. If Tulsi Gabbard were to resign in the same fashion, as what was the guy's name? Kent, can't. Sorry, that definitely wasn't his name. My bad.

No reason for that joke, especially when he did something honorable. I retract what I just said. Combinic instincts when I'm floundering. If Tulsi Gabbard were to resign, it would create a real demand for accountability of to what extent are we just engaging in activities on behalf of Israel, and it would become very undeniable if someone in her position turned around and said,

I cannot support this action, and this is clearly not in the American interest. And believe me, when they lose the Congress, the amount of pressure and activity of going after Donald Trump for why did you not take your own intelligence agency's recommendations and go into this war, we're talking about a completely different political atmosphere. Yeah. All right, guys, let's take a moment and thank our sponsor for today's show, which is My Patriot Supply, a great company. Really, really proud to have them on board as a sponsor.

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10,000 dead Iranians at this point, I'd imagine. I don't know that we have reliable numbers on this yet, but I'm just kind of a ballparking at. So like the best case scenario is that it doesn't get into the high tens of thousands or hundreds of thousands or something like that as it did in Iraq and Afghanistan and Syria and probably Libya and Yemen. Okay. So only like 10,000 or 20,000 people get killed. What's the best case scenario is that this only ends up costing like tens of billions rather than hundreds of billions or trillions like some of the others. And then the best case scenario is that out of all of that, like some more liberal or more plays ball with Israel type and America type, like, you know, regime arises when this one falls? Is that the best case scenario?

That's the best case scenario right now, right? That we just spend billions of dollars, or tens of billions of dollars. We kill thousands of people so that a government that really causes us no harm, certainly no harm over here. The only even argument for harm you could say is that they're harming our ability to topple governments on behalf of Israel. They're, you know what I mean? Like they when, whatever, you know, in Iraq when we were doing that, they were a pain in our ass or something like that. And half that stuff's exaggerated. But whatever, the point is just like, even in the best case scenario of this, how would it possibly be worth it? And then, Rob, what is the likelihood of that last part of the best case scenario that I just laid out.

What is it, what is the likelihood that like it's possible the first parts like maybe we only kill 10 or 20,000 people and maybe we only spend 10 or 20 billion dollars or something like that. I think we're way over 10 or 20 billion dollars if you count all the damage at this point in the straight of harm moose being closed and the global economy blow back on us and all that. But that's the best case scenario at that at that point that we, just we stop at that and Trump stops in a week and we come back and we just did that. The best case scenario here is that and and what's a given already here, Rob, a absolute given, is that Donald Trump has murdered his coalition.

Murder. It's just absolutely ruined. And anybody telling you anything else is just out of their mind. Listen, this is not 100% of Trump's base. It doesn't feel this way. But when you're talking about putting a coalition together that can be the difference between winning or losing, the difference between winning the popular vote

or winning the swing states or something like that, if you think there wasn't enough of a percentage of Donald Trump's base, who it was a deal breaker to lie us into another war in the Middle East, you're living in a fantasy land, an absolute fantasy land. I agree 100%. Let's roll the other clip, which is they ask her the same. It's a different person. Okay.

And then, you know what? Because I just want to make sure, because I just got this in my head, because what we got to still do here is we got to do Tulsi Gabbard, then we got to do Donald Trump. And then we got to do the media a little bit on this stuff. So let's try. Maybe we'll go a little bit over time, but let's try to get all that in. So here's, let's go back to the Tulsi. I would roll, yeah, this clip. I think it's a similar question.

but in regards to the Hermes Strait. See, between what the Intelligence Committee has a community has reported over the years and what the president has said in terms of this action, for example, Senator Wyden read the report from a year ago that strikes against neighboring states and action to close the strait of Hormuz was predicted by the intelligence community. And yet the president says nobody knew. And my question is,

Did you tell him? Anybody want to answer that question? Senator, I'll answer the question. Just pause it for a second there. It's just like, you know, when the Trump administration fucks up so bad that they make like politicians look good, but just think about that question,

the fact that that question has to get asked. And like how utterly reasonable in expectation is that you'd have to have an answer for that. Like, there was this intelligence. And by the way, it's not just, I mean, he's such. one, like, intelligence document.

But, like, dude, this has been U.S. intelligence since at, at least 2007. And I'm sure it was known before that, too. But it's consistently,

it's always been known. That's, like, the entire conversation, right? Like, the entire debate about war with Iran that really has been going on since 9-11 and George W. Bush put

Iran on the axis of evil list. Like it's a very blatant like, hey, these are the governments that we're looking at over this 9-11 thing. There's been a debate about war with Iran going since then in the country. It's been 25 years. And this has always been essential part of the debate. It's just so ridiculous to say that no one could have predicted this. This has always been what everybody who was analyzing intelligence or military preparedness or

debating the topic in public talked about. And the president said he's never heard this. Like, you know, it's just such a crazy claim. The custom, no one told him. Like, if you're saying he never heard this, none of you ever told him this. Anyway, what a question to even be able to ask someone. Yeah, let's play. Briefings, the president gets a briefings constantly about intelligence. Now, the comments that you talked about, I had not heard. What I can tell you is that Iran had specific plans to hit U.S. interests in energy sites across the region, and that's why the Department of War and the Department of State took measures for force protection and personnel protection in advance of Operation Epic Fury.

I think that's what's most important. Any predictions to the President about the straight of four moves? Pause it. The map. Just you take this one, Rob. I mean, it's just such a non-ans. of, well, I can't tell you whether or not that specific information was relayed, but we did everything we can to protect our people in the region. Well, the question was, the president just

said that nobody was aware of this information. We know that our intelligence agencies have put together this information. Was he not told that? Well, we did everything we could to protect our people in the region. In other words, you refused to answer this question about whether or not Donald Trump was informed on this. And if he was, then is lying, which leads to the question. question of why is he lying and working against the information of our intelligence agencies? Oh, is it because he's doing this for somebody else? Yeah. Yeah.

You know, it's a it is just the political theater of all of it is just so tired. Like, you know, I remember when I first, when I first gotten this game of being an anti-government extremist, Rob, uh, I, um, It was almost like you had to make the case that this was all political theater. You had to try to convince people that like, dude, Obama and Romney don't really hate each other. Like Nancy Pelosi and Mitch McConnell don't really hate each other. This is all theater. They're all on the same side, you know?

But now it's just like it's so obvious. You don't even have to like explain to people that like, like Rob, what is the point of having this if you can just not answer the question? why you know what I mean like why even do this why even sit there and ask questions like from the congressman's point of view you're like like why am i even wasting my time asking this then if you're just when the most important question that a government official could possibly ask another government official you know what I mean like what we're talking about a war we just launched and and you're saying you didn't have the intelligence about that war that was widely available to everyone um well the important thing is they can just not answer it to keep people

safe. We didn't actually keep them safe, but we took measures, and that's the important thing. Well, this is supposed to, like, convince the American people that, you know, it's just too, it's too ridiculous. All right. Let's, let's go to the Tulsi Gabbard one, because this really is the juiciest of, of all of them. So, on the ground. Well, no, we're going to the, the next clip, which is, I think it was a center o-man or something. discussion about the if uh if you go into the email there's a second email that has the timestamp it's close to the end i think it's like 145 off the top of my head but

hold i know it's uh two hours two hours and 15 minutes there you go i was wrong wait nuclear capability uh obliterated okay i didn't yeah i didn't get that part no i thought is this the one is this the one where tulsi i wanted the the tollsy imminent this is the longer version of when Tulsi says that imminent the imminent threat clip yeah yeah that's what I want okay great hey live chat that's how the sauce is so two hours and what uh one second so you said two hours and what two hours and 15 minutes okay yeah that's the guy handsome fella never heard of him before yeah i think i may have seen him a time too i don't know nothing about him though so you provide to congress quote timely objective and independent of political considerations correct

yes and you noted in your opening statement your here fulfilling a statutory response ability and that your testimony quote represents the iD assessment threats correct that open this is this is nuclear enrichment program was the blitz quote correct you just pause for a second intelligence community yes so yes I think it might be worth pulling it back, let it load up a little bit, take a couple comments, and then just give it a clean edit and play it. Yeah, I mean, if you're recording locally, I suppose it won't come out, but it's really hard for us to comment on it like this. So yeah, do what Rob said. Just let it load up for a little bit.

We'll take a couple questions from the chat, and then we'll edit this out of the episode. Maybe go like 213, 213, unless, I guess, unless one of your questions are really good. Here, go ahead. Put in a question in the live chat if you want one. Why doesn't Ben Swan get more exposure? Everything I've seen from him has been good over the years. Think he'd be a cool guest. Yeah, I would have been on for sure.

You know, I'll say this to you guys, and we will edit this out of the episode. But, you know, I think working at RT is really hard to you. You know, I like Ben a lot. I think Ben's great. And I've been a fan of his since back in the day when he was at that Fox affiliate wherever. And I used to watch his viral clips all the time. He was like a big figure in the Ron Paul Revolution Days. But I do think going, like I, to me, it's just like at this point too, especially like, you know, back when when Adam Kokesh and what's her name?

What's your name? I'm just blinking on it. The lefty, anti-war lady, had their shows there. It was a little bit different because it was like, well, shit, that's the only fucking thing that'll let you on TV to say all this shit is RT. And it's a little weird to take money from the Russian government. But fuck, like, you can say some real shit on there and you can't. But now it's just like, man, everyone's got shows, dude.

Just do a show. You'll reach just as many people. I mean, I understand you get money because now it's just the money in a way, you know? I think it kind of creates a little bit of a perverse thing. I know Kariaku worked for them too for a little bit. I mean, I like all those guys. I'm not trashing them. But I think it takes you out of the conversation a little bit.

It gives you too easy of a thing to be able to dismiss you. All right. Let's go to the Tulsi Gabbard statement. Under the law, you are responsible for providing national intelligence to the president, correct? Yes. And to the heads of executive branch departments and agencies, yes? Yes. Yes.

And to the chairman of a joint chiefs and senior military commanders. Across the IC, yes. And to the Senate and the House and relevant committees, correct? Yes. And the law states that the national intelligence you provide to Congress, quote, should be timely, objective, and independent of political considerations, correct? Yes. And you noted in your opening statement, you're here fulfilling a statutory responsibility and

that your testimony, quote, represents the IC's assessment of threats, correct? Correct. That opening statement, as submitted to the committee in advance of this hearing, stated that as a result of last summer's airstrikes, quote, Iran's nuclear enrichment program was obliterated, end quote, correct? That's right. And is that, in fact, the assessment of the intelligence community? Yes.

So the assessment of the intelligence community is that Iran's nuclear enrichment program was obliterated by last summer's airstrikes. Yes. And the opening statement you submitted to the committee last night also stated, quote, there has been no effort since then to try to rebuild their enrichment capability, end quote, correct? That's right. And that's the assessment of the intelligence community.

Yes. The White House stated on March 1st of this year that this war was launched and was, quote, a military campaign to eliminate the imminent nuclear threat posed by the Iranian regime, end quote. That's a statement from the White House, quote, the imminent nuclear threat posed by the Iranian regime. Was it the assessment of the intelligence community that there was an imminent nuclear threat posed by the Iranian regime? The intelligence community assessed that Iran maintained the intention to rebuild and to continue to grow their nuclear enrichment capability. Was it the assessment of the intelligence community that there was a, quote, imminent nuclear threat posed by the Iranian regime? Yes or no?

Senator, the only person who can determine what is and is not an imminent threat is the president. False. This is the worldwide threat searing where you present. to Congress national intelligence, timely objective and independent of political considerations. You've stated today that the intelligence community's assessment is that Iran's nuclear enrichment program was obliterated and that, quote, there had been no efforts since then to try to rebuild their enrichment capability. Was it the intelligence community's assessment that nevertheless, despite this obliteration, there was a, quote, imminent nuclear threat posed by the Iranian regime? Yes or no?

It is not the intelligence community's responsibility to determine what is and is not an imminent threat. Okay. That is up to the president based on a volume. No, it is precisely. It is precise. Just pause it. I mean, this is, this is more comical than anything out of the George W. Bush administration. I've never seen anything like that before in my life.

It is not our job to assess threat. It's exactly your job. You put out an annual threat assessment. that is your job. You can't just say it's not your job. Rob, I mean, listen, this is as simple as this, man. What a fucking evil person, Tulsi Gabbard, turned out to be.

She's lying us into war. She's lying us into the war that she warned about, spent our entire career warning about, sold t-shirts about. And here's as simple, as you know, she's lying us into war, Rob. If there was an imminent threat, then the answer to that question is yes. Simple as that. if there was an imminent threat and she said did the intelligence say you know does the intelligence say that

there's an imminent threat she'd go yes it says there's an imminent threat she can't she can't say that because she knows it's not true and so she won't admit that it's not true okay not telling the truth is the same as lying in this situation we're talking about the the d n i testifying about a war that was just launched. She's lying us into a war, knowing full well that she's doing it. You know, she is the colon pal of this administration. I'll take my apologies from all the people who said I was being hyperbolic or I was a panicking in the 12-day war. All right, guys, let's take a moment and thank our sponsor for today's show, which is Massa Chips. You don't have to overhaul your whole life in 2006. Start with simple swaps like upgrading the

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where he defines the job title, defines what her job is, and then goes, well, then, how does this add up? And she refuses to answer it. And in fact, what we're finding out now is that the way that these decisions are made, is that Donald Trump has a feeling about something. The feeling is informed by donors and leaders of other countries. And then he goes back to the intelligence agencies and goes, based off of my feeling, here's what the actual threat is.

And then the intelligence agencies go, okay. It's so absurd. I can't even believe she went with this. Just lie, Tulsi. You're lying either way. So just lie. Like, what are you doing? Like, you're sitting here saying only the president can.

can determine whether there's an imminent threat or not. I thought your job is literally to inform him. And the question is, did you inform him of the intelligence or not? Somebody's at fault here. Either Donald Trump decided to ignore the intelligence and he's at fault for this or for some reason the people in the intelligence agencies literally did not present him the information he needed in order to make an informed decision. Rob, it's so much more basic than that.

An imminent threat is a thing that exists in reality. There either is one or there isn't one. The president decides there's one. He's either correct or incorrect. It's not his decision that makes the threat imminent. This is just this dumbest goddamn shit I've ever heard in my life. I guess she thinks people are that stupid. This is just like, again, this is more ridiculous than anything out of the George W. Bush administration,

anything out of Obama, that is more ridiculous than saying Biden is, senile. Like there's a chance that Biden could have not been senile, even though we could clearly see he was. Like, I mean, I don't know. This is worse than any of that. To go, it's, it's an imminent threat if the president says it's an

imminent threat. This is like it's the truth if the president says it's the truth. The sky is blue if the president says the sky is blue. This is just insanity. Trump made the mistake, and this is why he's dumber than the Bush administration.

was that he didn't get the intelligence reports in line before he took action. So the Bush at least took steps to make sure that there were falsified reports pretending that there was a nuclear risk. And so then he could point to, look, we had these intelligence reports. And then years later, we find out that it's all fabricated. In this case, the intelligence agencies were putting out the exact opposite information and warning him against it. But he just decided I'm Trump and I'm going for it anyways.

And my guess is this is going to come back to haunt him. maybe not because our government is completely corrupt, but he didn't get his ducks in a row. There's a way to play the corruption game, which includes that you have to fabricate these things that there's some plausible deniability. And here we're finding dead to rights, oh, Donald Trump ignored the information,

and we did have this information. Yep, yep. That's right. Look, I mean, let's talk about Trump a little bit here now because he, at the end of the day, he's the biggest villain in all of this. he's the person most responsible for it. I mean, you can certainly put a lot of blame on Benjamin Netanyahu,

but like Donald Trump is our elected leader. He is our commander in chief. He's the one who's moving the U.S. military here, and it's his responsibility. And I mean this, even if this would cost him his life, even under the worst blackmail, you have a profound moral responsibility to not lie your country into a war when you're their commander-in-chief. And if that means, I'm just saying,

I'm not even saying they would kill him or they have blackmail on him. I'm saying there is no excuse. Like, even if they did have that, then it's your responsibility to give up your life before you go take the lives of so many other people needlessly. And it's your responsibility to let your deepest, darkest secrets come out before you go kill a bunch of innocent people for no reason.

And Donald Trump, I mean, oh, my fucking God, Rob, You know, we were talking about this last week before I went away. But in the week since I've been gone, I mean, I think this might actually top the Epstein cover-up. When he was saying, like when he was saying, why are you asking me about this now? When there's floods in Houston, only loser Democrats ask about the thing that I in my entire, you know, campaign ran on. all of my surrogates ran on. Only, you know, losers ask about that. It's just like it was too crazy.

But this, I mean, there's so many different, Rob, I mean, he's like on record now saying that, he's on record saying that he didn't, no one could have predicted the most thing that was predicted the most about the war. He said that his, his director of, counterterrorism was always weak on security and that he always knew that. Donald Trump is more concerned about bashing the guy who just blew the whistle on this whole thing, that he doesn't even

think that like, that's acknowledging that you put someone weak on security. You've always known they were weak on security and you gave them the job of director of counterterrorism. Like, what? He said it's good if oil prices go up. you know like he's he said like i mean he's saying like if it hits if all types of things about the economy and just i mean this is like i just cannot believe that anyone like is staying by this guy on this it's just like what what can you say i i broke it down and run your mouth that i figured out how trump 5d chess works which is whatever happens you claim that's exactly what you wanted and it's victorious so even something

like gas prices going up, you turn around and you go, I always wanted higher gas prices. I always said it. After spending years campaigning and railing against the Biden gas price increases and talking all the time about how awful that is, now it's no big deal. And I mean, look, it's just so obvious on its face here that, again, it's not even like, like, I can kind of, and I'm sure I will get in these. debates. You know, I'm back now. I got a bunch of big shows coming up. I'm going to be making the rounds. But I will make sure, you know, to schedule some debates. I'm sure I'll be on

Pierce Morgan debating somebody about this soon. And like I can, it's a very weird feeling. I almost feel like I'm like uncomfortable accepting the premise of the debate because is this even a debate? You know, like if someone wanted to debate over whether it was Israel who got us into a rat, like whether we fought Iraq because of the Israel lobby and the Israeli government. Okay, there's a debate, Libya, debate, Syria, I could debate it. Like this one, are we even debating? Like, who drew us into this war? Who was pressuring for this war?

Netanyahu visit, how many times did he come over here in the last couple months to push Trump to do this? Trump is on record saying that like his biggest donors just fucking all they care about is Israel. And every goddamn day, they're demanding more stuff for Israel. and I always give it to them and they always give me more money. Like, it's, this isn't, it's completely out in the open. This isn't even, what are we even debating here? And so you just have this, like, the most obvious example of the president, just completely bullshitting, just lying through his teeth.

And I don't know what, you know, completely going back on the whole spirit of his whole political existence for a foreign country. what could there's not much that could be worse that a leader could do that's worse i guess he could start genociding his own people that'd be worse it's not it's pretty up there um yeah i guess here in the and as we get toward the end of the show just like i guess a few words about the well and maybe we'll go a little bit long because there's a few more things we should get to here but okay so the media coverage of this and um when i say that i mean i guess i there's different quarters of it, but the people who kind of are like blindly, you know,

just supporting Donald Trump through all of this. And I mean, I'll say first, like whatever you want called the influencers or the podcasters or whatever, the people on the internet who are, because this is kind of the most dominant media now. It's more important than the corporate media. But you got people like, I don't know, it's like Benny, Benny Johnson and, who's a good one? Maybe like Stephen Crowder. He did a piece on me. We'll respond to that tomorrow or something.

It's really just awful, low IQ slop. But there's these guys like Will Chamberlain or, I don't know, just like the ones that are just always, or even the Ben Shapiro's. I mean, I'm not just talking about like the guys who are actually like Israeli lobbyists or Israel firsters or whatever you want. want to call him.

But the guys who are just, if you've watched them all, Rob, like, it is literally, like, the goalposts moving on what the hell their position even is. Because essentially, they're just trapped in this thing where, like, whatever Trump does, they're going to support. And so they kind of come up with the best argument they can for the last thing. But then he does the next thing, which completely destroys their position on the last thing. And so then they pretend like they have this new position, which is that actually this is a good thing that we did the thing that we're not.

You know, it's just so ridiculous. So ridiculous. You know, from them starting with like Israel, you know, Israel can do it alone to, oh, we're going to need you to drop those bunker bombs, but we don't need you to do anything else other than that. To actually, oh, we need you to take care of the missiles. You know, like the people, these guys would have been arguing. We're arguing with me a year ago. excuse me, last summer, they were arguing that I'm so dumb for thinking this was going to get us into a protracted conflict where lots of people die.

Now it's just like, oh, you're so dumb for whatever the next thing. Like they just keep moving the goalpost. Keep to just defend this guy. It's like they're just like, I don't know, just I find it so strange because I go just on like a self-serving, self-interested level. Like don't you want to preserve like an ounce of your? integrity or your perceived integrity you know like isn't it isn't this going to be so transparent to people that you're like you were just saying this the other day you were just saying that this isn't what

was going to happen well i guess uh for the few trump loyalists left they like uh whoever will uh take the victory lap with donald trump and uh get in line with the newest lies and my god i guess Donald Trump will serve up the glory for you because soon enough, Mark Levin's going to be state-run media. That's going to be all that we can consume. The only Patriot left. Well, yeah, let's actually, we should,

let's pull up that Donald Trump tweet because that was an important one. I'm sorry, I forgot to do that at the end of the Donald Trump thing. That's how I wanted to finish it. So let's pull up that tweet and then a couple more thoughts on the media. But this was, I thought this was very interesting. Donald Trump tweeted,

and I got to say, Okay, let me read the tweet. Okay, Mark Levin is a truly great American patriot. Is somewhat under siege by other people. Can you make it a little bit bigger? Actually, yeah, maybe. Actually, I can make this larger here. So Mark Levin is a truly great American patriot, somewhat under siege by other people with far less intellect, capability and love for our country. Mark is tough. All right. Mark is tough, strong, and brilliant. Hence the nickname, the great one,

conceived by our MAGA friend, the wonderful Sean Hannity, after years of dealing with Mark in legal, media, okay, so he comes out with this just ball-washing, Mark Levin post, and then basically says, screw all the guys coming at him. Okay?

Yeah, we can take that down. There's, you know, this is an interesting moment. And, you know, I remember I had a little bit of a moment that was kind of similar to this with the president, where, for those of you who may remember, I debated Douglas Murray on Joe Rogan's podcast. And like the day after, maybe two days after Donald Trump had a tweet about how great Douglas Murray was. And it had promoted his book and stuff like that. Now, I don't know for sure that it was like in response to my debate, but I wouldn't. say that you know that debate was for that week like the biggest goddamn thing on the the fucking like everywhere and you know it felt like it was kind of a response that maybe i'm making more of a big

deal than it was but i think most people seem to take it that it was like that and i remember when that happened it was kind of like well there's a there's a real signal there but of course this was before you know the 12-day war and before the epstein cover up and before i obviously this war. And this one obviously is like a 10,000 times bigger deal. This to me, Rob, I, um, if you remember, I used to say that, or I've said many times over the last, uh, you know, year and a half that, and I think in many ways this was the best case, this was the best outcome of Trump winning, um, the election in 24. Uh, this was the, reason why I supported him and I said this at the time. I said it was the number one reason,

or I guess that number one and two, one was that it would destroy, you know, the Democrats and prevent Kamala Harris from being president. Then I thought the second best reason was that it would be the nail in the coffin of the corporate media. And I think I got that call right. And there was something very interesting. Like it had been dead for a while. You know, it was we, me and you, Rob, we used to always talk about how ridiculous it was that Brian Stelter, you know, positioned himself as like the expert in the room and the fringe Joe Rogan was over here. We were like, guys, we all see the numbers. Like, we all know who the mainstream is.

But after the 24 election, they admitted it. The media all went, you know, we need to find our own Joe Rogan. We're not really where it's at anymore. They're not really where it's at. They weren't saying that until that defeat. You know, five minutes earlier, they were saying Kamala Harris, probably going to win this thing. So in a way, this kind of felt like, I don't know, Rob, if you agree with this, but this felt like it's been over for a while now,

but Trump made it official that he's blown up his coalition. You know, like you pick a side so strong like that and say the ones attacking them are wrong. And like, first of all, the ones attacking them are all really playing defense. Like he's the one who started attacking everybody. And this is just the truth, Rob, like we all kind of know this.

No one was really still talking about Mark Levin. Mark Levin wasn't really like, Mark Levin almost good. got some relevance back by just being the most over the top, ridiculous name-calling guy going after everyone. And then it was like, because Mark Levin kind of used to be a fixture, that was enough for a lot of us to go, well, I'll stomp this dude. Okay, no problem.

And it just gets literally, he gets ratioed to death on social media every day, every day. I did it to him today earlier. It just, it's very easy. Everyone's against him, at least on social media. he's got a dwindling quite literally dying audience of 90-year-olds who listen to him. And the people who he's fighting with are Megan Kelly and Tucker Carlson and Candace Owens, like the most surging, you know, Nick Fuentes, a guy's like this, myself and the other, you know, it's like people who are surging, including the people at the absolute top, like Tucker and Megan.

and Candace and Trump just goes all in with him I mean look Trump destroyed his coalition with the 12-day war and the Epstein cover-up he destroyed it beyond repair

with this war in Iran and this was just kind of admitting it this was making it official you know I was I'll be honest I was a little stung when Trump posted about Douglas Murray after our debate.

You're also a little bit kind of flattered in a weird way. But this, I was just pleased with. I was happy he made this post. Like, okay, just like, let it be known then. Let it be known. You're official. You think Tucker Carlson and Thomas Massey are losers and hacks. And you know, and you love Lindsey Graham and Mark Levin.

All right. Good luck, Jady Vance or Marco Rubio. You're toast. That's it. Destroyed the winning coalition. There's just no chance. There's just no question about it. All right, guys, let's take a moment

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Did you see, let's do this. And we could wrap up in a few minutes here. But let's just play the CNN, the poll, the mega pole. This was just, I mean, I thought this was AI. I could not believe they went with this. This is just the way. Oh, you haven't seen this. dude. Oh, Rob. Oh, I'm almost jealous that you haven't seen it. It's, it's and just keep in mind,

just the way CNN has covered Donald Trump. I mean, it's really just amazing to watch. Like all the fucking never Trump are, you know, all the people just celebrating right now that Donald Trump's fighting this war, all the fucking Israel firsters, the Ben Shapiro's, the Mark Levins, all the guys who were the never Trumpers. And now think CNN, the ultimate personification of just, you know, we're going to fucking frame the guy for treason all day long. We will bash Donald Trump all day. long. That was CNN for all these. Here's what they're doing to Donald Trump right now. Let's play this clip. And this is one of those because just take a look here. Maga GOP, if you of Trump approve 100 percent, 100 percent. If you are a member of MAGA and the GOP,

you approve of Donald John Trump. Zero percent say that they disapprove. You don't have to be a mathematical genius to know you can't go higher than 100 percent. He is the 19. 1772 Miami Dolphins. Now, there are some Republicans who disapprove of Donald John Trump, but they are not members of the Make America Great Again movement. The bottom line is this. If you are a member of MAGA, you approve of Donald Trump. It's interesting, though, because there have been a couple prominent people who have sort of come out online, and they're very mad about this war with Iran because he promised no new wars. Is there any sign that people might be leaving MAGA relative to 2024?

Yeah, okay. So, you know, I've said it before, and, you know, the theme of this segment is Tucker Carlson be darned. And when we look at the number, so here, okay, so that's it. That's all you need. Yes. So, oh, my God, Rob, I mean, dude, this is North Korea shit. This is literally like the craziest thing I've ever heard in my life. They go, oh, you know, MAGA Republicans, 100% of them support this thing. And, you know, that's got people a little bit confused because all of the biggest voices have Maga Republican world are totally against this thing. And it's like, dude, did you first think to yourself, when have you at what? Look at what they're doing. When have you ever seen anyone measure polls by what MAGA Republicans think? What the fuck does that even mean? What does it mean to be a MAGA Republican? He said, there's lots of people who don't support it, but if you're in the MAGA movement,

you do. Well, everyone who doesn't support it has left the movement. What's the size of the movement? movement. What's the size of the coalition? Trump's now down to, this is how they're selling the war. Trump's down to semantics. I define what MAGA is. You don't. And it's like, okay, so you're saying we define MAGA as everyone who agrees with this war. And we found that 100% of people in that category agree with this war.

How the fuck else do you ever get to 100% of something? That's stated differently. You can conduct this poll by calling people and go, hey, I saw that you are a Donald Trump voter, you support this war, and they say no, and then you go, well, you're not MAGA. Yes, that's right. That's what they're doing. Listen, Donald Trump, look, as I said, the polls now say that if the election were today, Kamala Harris wins in a landslide.

So where's that coalition? It's destroyed. It's gone. Donald Trump's approval ratings are the lowest they've ever been. this war is the least popular war going in in American history. These are what the polls say. And yet CNN is over there telling you that it's a 100% obviously implying 100% of his base. Well, yeah, if you're not in his base anymore over this.

There's like a huge, look, again, obviously, right, a huge percentage of people supported Donald Trump, like a very sizable percentage because they, at least in large, large, large part, because they didn't want to fight. more regime change wars in the Middle East, and they didn't want to get lied into them. And when you lie them into one, that's the type of thing that they leave your base over. So those people aren't in the president's base anymore. That tells you precisely zero information about anything. That every war is 100% popular if you measure it that way, Rob. And this is what they're doing. And then isn't it just so, you know, doesn't it just give you the whole game right there?

That even CNN is carrying water for Donald Trump. And why? Because he's fighting a war. Because that's what they're in the business is selling. That's it. You know, I always said this for so many goddamn years. Like every single time I've been on Joe Rogan's show, every single time I think I've been on a big show, I've made the point that their whole thing is being in the business of selling wars.

And what could prove that more than CNN carrying water for Donald Trump? like why would they be doing that you know what i'm saying like if if your number one thing was to ruin a guy who you hated um it would prove that that actually wasn't your number one thing the number one thing was selling wars and he's doing that so that actually outranks your number one what was perceived to be your number one thing yeah this is this is the most legitimate thing to actually trash him for is abandoning his base in the name of a foreign country and uh pulling us to a quagmire. Yeah.

So if you have no interest in actually criticizing them on this, but instead sell it that this is what is supporters like, I think that does, uh, that does quite validate your theory. Yeah. Yeah. And,

um, I just, I think there's people who like just don't understand, you know, what's going on in the media in the world of talking about stuff too. You know, I saw, um,

like there's, there's been all this talk about like, uh, um, the podcast. cast, you know, wars and, oh, should Megan Kelly have said micro penis mark back to Mark Levin? And I don't know, like, I'm kind of firmly in the camp that like, yeah, she should have. Like, fuck that.

Like, why should she sit here and let all these guys talk shit to her? And this is how it happened. All these guys started talking shit to her. And she was like, hey, guys, can we please not get someone else killed? That was literally her response the first time that Mark Levin started talking wild shit to Megan Kelly. And it's so weird because, like, Like he calls her.

So literally I've seen Josh Hammer, Mark Levin, and Laura Loomer. So the committee of people with micro penises, including Laura Lumer? Yes. They all, and they started calling her Grandma Groyper, which is like on there's, it's just really hilarious on two levels. Like, number one, the funny and then number two kind of the serious aspect of this. like, number one, you're in what, like, grandma, like that's the insult, like you're old or something like that? It's like, first of up, Megan Kelly is just clearly a mom, not a grandmother, very clearly.

And number two, in what universe does Laura Lumer comment on Megan Kelly's looks? In what universe does Mark Levin and Josh Hammer say, I don't know. have something to say about how Megan Kelly looks. It's just this is too insane. Like that's what you went with. Go with anything else. Anything else. You guys are not coming out on top in that one.

But then the other thing is that they call her a groiper, like a groiper of all things. Not even the name you'd associate with Tucker Carlson, the name you'd associate with Nick Fuenta, that you think you're going to win that. argument. Yes, guys, there's no daylight between Megan Kelly and Nick Fuentes. Does this even warrant a response? You know what I'm saying? But like at the same time, it's like, no, I actually think she does need a fight back. And I actually think sometimes it's like it's important that the people

out here, because there are different categories of people here. There's people who are doing shows. There's people who are telling you what they think. And we may have different worldviews and different arguments and and different principles, but we're making our arguments. And there's like the people out there who are like fucking lying the country into war and viciously smearing their enemies. And like, yeah, we kind of do have to battle those people. That's part of this. And also because they slander the shit out of you. If you just point out their hypocrisy, you just point out their track record, you just argue that we shouldn't do this. That's what you're met with. trust me as somebody who's done this that's what you're met with not a rebuttal to your argument

but an absolute smear on your character and um you know and then there's just like there's a lot of people who just don't get it i see that out there too you know i saw um i watched a clip the other day uh or i'm sorry i watched the clip earlier today of um patrick bet david and his crew and you know honestly like i look i like pat and i i i i like pat and i i respect him. He's, you know what I mean? Like, he's been cool to me. And he's, obviously, I'm, grateful to Patrick. He's facilitated the Chris Cuomo debate for me. He's hosted me on his enormous platform many times. He had me part of his election night coverage. And like, you know, I'm always very grateful to people who have helped me in my career. And I, and I respect Pat. I

respect, you know, him as a person. But I was listening to this clip. And, you know, I like him. I like Vinnie. You know, I don't like, I, I went off on Adam recently on Twitter, but, you know, and maybe it was a little bit nasty of me. But, you know, the fucking guy has been like talking shit about me for months and months and months. I just never said anything because it's like, I don't know. I'm sorry. I don't mean to be a dick, but I'm just above, you know, like kind of responding to Pat's guy who doesn't know anything about anything. But I did snap it in those because he's been talking shit so much to me. And, and like, I don't know, just like insulting, like being like saying that I'm uninformed and I'm dumb when it's like,

dude, like I don't know, man. The topic we're talking about objective, no matter where you are on the issue, you think I'm wrong about everything. I'm objectively a thousand times more informed than fucking Adam from the Patrick Bet David show about everything I talk about. Whether I'm getting it right or wrong, that's just a reality. But so I'm watching them, this segment. And they're like talking about how the problem is that, you know, Charlie was the guy trying

to unify all of us. But then after Charlie gets killed, Pat says, Megan Kelly could have been the one trying to unify all of us. But instead, she got into these wars. And then they're talking about how Marco Rubio is going to be the nominee and like all of this. And it's like, man, they're talking about how we're all just so Israel obsessed. You know, you turn on Tucker's show. Every show is about Israel. And I don't know, man. I mean, just talk about intentionally missing the point, intentionally missing the goddamn pie. Like, how are you guys really missing this? It's like, no, no, Megan never could have kept us all together. Charlie never could have kept us all together if Charlie was alive right now. There's just absolutely no chance. For some of us, lying us into another war of choice was a deal breaker.

And it's that simple. It is that simple. This was a deal breaker for a huge part of the coalition. There's no way, no way you were keeping us in it if you were going to do this. The Epstein cover up probably was too, but certainly lying us into another war. There's just there's no way you were going to keep that coalition together. I don't care if you had a thousand Charlie Kirk's. It's just not going to happen, you know? And the idea that Marco Rubio could carry that coalition, I don't know what you're talking about, man. I just don't know what planet you're living on where you think someone could run.

with Marco Rubio's foreign policy and have a shot at winning. It's just like, I guess you guys just haven't been here for the last, you know, five election cycles or whatever. There's, and, and, you know, in terms of saying we talk about Israel all the time, believe me, I'd love to stop. I'd love to stop. But it's impossible to right now. This is where the action is.

This is what's going on. Yeah, they're a huge, goddamn part of this. We're conducting a war together with them right now. and it is not in our interest and they perceive it to be in theirs. We don't even perceive it to be in ours. Their leadership perceives it to be in the interest of greater Israel or whatever it is.

But I just think it's like, you could try to dance around this all you want to, but that's the heart of the matter right there. Is that there's just too many of us. We're not going to go for this. It doesn't matter. However you dress it up. You know, perhaps Donald Trump could have continued,

you know, funding and arming Israel, even while they were doing the horrific shit they were doing to Gaza, I don't know. I think perhaps if that hadn't eventually come to some type of limited ceasefire, it really was getting ready to tank his presidency anyway. But like if that stopped and Trump just continued the policy of like, we send Israel $4 billion every year, we still don't allow the Palestinians to have statehood and all this stuff, like maybe he could have kept a coalition together on that. It probably would have been a matter of time, you know, until that really, really hurt a lot. I mean, he was going to have a huge critic in me as long as he kept that policy up. He was going to have a huge critic in Tucker and other people, I think, as long as he kept that up,

at least in Tucker's case of being critical of the policy. But this, there's no way. There's no way. Absolutely no shot. And, you know, it's like this thing that I think a lot of them don't understand where you know it's like the reason why that's so so when i'm listening to patrick with david talk about this and he's almost talking about it like it's this weird thing where they almost go well like look man if we don't keep this coalition together we're going to lose so obviously the goal is to keep this coalition together and i just think it's like i understand that mentality in a sense but i just like brother to drive it home to you we don't wish to keep that coalition together if it means this, because you're every bit as fucking bad as the thing we were coalitioning against.

You're as bad. You're the same. It's all the same. Like, what's the worst thing about the fucking woke left progressive establishment? What is the worst thing about it? What, they had opened borders. They were destroying our country. Okay, this is destroying our country.

This another war is destroying our country. It's risking it at least. Okay, what, they like, they love abortion and that's, that's murder, like, this is murder. This is also murder. You're murdering a bunch of people. Or they teach woke garbage to our children. Like, yeah, you're ruining people.

You're ruining people. This war is ruining people. Like, it's all the same thing. You're them. There's no, like, if it's going to be this, I don't want a coalition with you against anything. And that's, I'm not the only one who feels that way. And, okay, I might be 0% of MAGA Republicans,

but I don't give a shit. I'm not a mad. Republican. Like, not anymore. And if that's what you want to call it, like, okay, fine, Trump gets the name MAGA, whatever the hell that means. Fine. You guys who support regime change wars of choice can have the name MAGA. That might be sad for some people, but it's like really not for me. You can't have America first. That doesn't belong to you. And, you know, you can't have whatever. You can't have the whole non-interventionist right. You can't have any of it. So, okay, that's the way it is now. No. And I will say that, you know, whatever it is,

whatever our role is in that, Rob, I mean, we're, you know, there's bigger voices out there than us. But we got a, at this point, you know, we got a little nook here for sure. And we're like pretty close. I think we're like just right outside of the, like consistently of the top 10 news shows on Spotify. And we've got a big, you know, following on YouTube and stuff. and for whatever that represents, well, like, okay, we got a little nook here. There's people who are much bigger who represent, you know, there's Tucker Carlson's of the world. And yeah, we're more than enough to cost you your coalition. That's for sure.

More than enough to make sure you can't fucking win. And you do shit like this and you're as bad as them. So I don't know. That's it. You blow up your coalition. Any other thoughts, Rob, or we could wrap up. That was a pretty impassioned speech to call an episode. I'm not going to top that.

That was correct. Well, thank you. I appreciate it. All right. Listen, we'll be back tomorrow with a brand new episode. Let me think about this for a little bit, but we'll do. We're going to have to do another public episode tomorrow because there's just so much to talk about. I know we've been a bit behind on the members only.

We will get all caught up on that over the next few days. But anyway, thank you guys very much for listening. We will catch you next time. Peace.