Part Of The Problem - The Collapse of Donald Trump

Episode Date: November 12, 2025

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what's up what's up everybody welcome to a brand new episode of part of the problem i am dave smith he is robbie the fire burnstein we're about to head out to new orleans together uh wait wait david i don't hit go live but it's not showing that's going yeah give me one second sure sure that's a good point try that again yeah hold that one second Let me see it on the other. There you go. Now, it's good. What's up, everybody?

Welcome to a brand new episode of Part of the Problem. I am Dave Smith. He is Robbie the Fire, Bernstein. How are you feeling today, Robbie? Doing well. We're about to head out for Skank Fest. And for anyone who's already in New Orleans, Wednesday night, I'm doing a show in Mandonville, L.A., which I believe is like a half hour outside of New Orleans.

Got a cool roadside music venue type place. So if you're out there, I got some great local openers. It's going to be a fun show. Awesome. Awesome. Sounds good. And, of course, then we will be out at Skank Fest for the week. Oh, yeah, and then, Poughkeepsie.

I believe that is our last, me and Rob's last show of the year together. And I believe the first show is sold out. I believe there are still some tickets. I haven't checked in the last couple of days. I believe there's still some tickets for the late show. But November 22nd, Poughkeepsie, New York, laugh it up, one night only. It'll be both of us. And we got Chris Faga coming up there as well.

Always a fun time. and then in the new year we're coming all over the place I always say it like that and then people clip it and make gay jokes you people are so immature we will be traveling together sleeping in separate hotel rooms

hanging out in the same hotel room a lot during the day but whatever comicdavsmith.com for all those ticket links all right so for today's show I really I think that pretty much the theme of the whole show is going to be this if you guys want to put some questions

in the live chat. I'll try to respond to some if we have time. Part of the problem.com, of course, is where you can watch the show live and ad-free and uncensored. And you get the bonus episode every week that you don't get anywhere else except there. So thank you to all of you guys who do subscribe. And please consider it if you don't already. So the theme for today's show is Donald Trump, what the hell is going on with him, man? Because I really do just at this point, it is, It's kind of hard to overstate what a disaster this whole thing has been. And just on every front, on every front. And I thought it was something that's worth going over.

I think it's really important to do this because, you know, much like, I mean, obviously there was a bigger time period here, but, you know, things are moving quicker than ever these days. But if you, you know, when Donald Trump successfully hijacked the Republican Party and took over and became president in 2016. Well, the way he ran was a complete repudiation of the George W. Bush administration. You know, he looked at Jeb Bush in a Republican primary debate in South Carolina, of all places, Rob. The military state of South Carolina.

You know, you're talking about the Republican, you know, party primary in South Carolina. It's hard to overstate how much military influence there is over that crowd. and Donald Trump looked Jeb Bush in the eyes and said, your brother lied us into war. Not the war didn't work out well or the war wasn't prosecuted well. Like, he said he lied us into war. The charge is of like the most profound war crime that you can commit. The, like, genuinely, that is an accusation that should be punishable by death.

the idea that you lied a country into a war that got a million people killed and thousands of our own soldiers killed and cost trillions of dollars but anyway i just say that to make the point that obviously at that point donald trump for whatever reason whether it was a political calculation or he was just telling the truth um because it was a good it was both right it was a good political calculation and he was telling the truth but he recognized that like no the path going forward here is to just totally repudiate this like you know what i mean you know what i mean like it's not to try to defend this it's not to try to say like there were a lot of other kind of milk toast establishment republicans who would have said like well

Obama was even worse than bush or something like that he was like no no no that's not the game we're playing and likewise in a similar fashion i think the time is now that for donald trump i think the time is for all of us to admit this whole thing is just a disaster you know i sent you uh i sent you this morning rob this piece i was reading a piece in the uh in the economist uh about Donald Trump's approval rating. And just to kind of get like a picture of this, because I don't really think like I'm exaggerating much, right? But the reading from the piece here, okay, let me please.

This I found particularly interesting. Donald Trump essentially had hit, he came in like a year ago, Donald Trump won this incredible election. He comes in with his record high approval ratings, the highest approval ratings he's ever had. More importantly than that, I think his agenda was wildly popular with the American people. Donald Trump wins a year ago. Donald Trump wins every single swing state, wins the popular vote. And even more seemingly impossible, or what had previously seemed to be impossible,

he captured the culture, the youth, the energy of the whole country. You know, John Jones is doing the Trump dance after he wins the fights. He's at every UFC event. Like, he's just, he was with all the cool kids on the big podcasts. Today, Donald Trump has his lowest approval ratings that he's ever had. Donald Trump's approval ratings are around. This last poll had him at 38%. He's right around where George W. Bush was after two disasters in an economic crash.

and particularly this, I thought, was crazy. The biggest shift away from Mr. Trump, I'm reading from the economist piece here, has been amongst Americans under 30 years old. His net approval amongst that group was positive three when he returned to the Oval Office. It's now minus 40. Now, I'm sorry, but one of the most incredible things that Donald Trump did was kind of went over the youth in a way that, like, nobody really thought. Like, it was inconceivable in 2016 that Donald Trump would have carried the youth.

And yet he was positive three when he came in to office this last time. He's now negative 40. The future generation was open to this, maybe even supporting this, and now want nothing to do with it at all. That is something that's really worth examining. All right, guys, let's take a moment and thank our sponsor for today's show, which is crowd health, an amazing company. I've been telling you guys about them for many years. They really created an alternative to the broken health insurance system.

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office job in sales uh but i don't know what the climate is now for these kids coming out of school but i certainly know that they don't like the israel situation and i'm going to guess that the job market isn't fantastic right now and you put those two things together for young kids and i could understand why they're not they're not too pleased with the current administration yeah absolutely i mean this demographic is overwhelmingly considers what israel's doing to the palestinians to be a genocide and they overwhelmingly hate the levels of control that the israel lobby and the israel government have over the united states of america and donald trump's out there bragging about being the most pro-israel president ever and he's been funded and facilitating the genocide the whole time

he's been in there so yeah that sure as hell doesn't help with them and like you said the economic stuff is it's all a disaster for for these kids and even if like the wars are not it just doesn't capture people's interest of you actually being america first so if you're out there and you want to pretend like you really care about what's going on in this country and you're spending all this money on what people don't like and that's mostly what they're hearing about in the news you're going to you're going to lose your client base yeah no i think that's exactly right and there's and and you know just in every way he's just been signaling that he's not with them not with the cause that this isn't serious it's like a fundamentally unsurious administration and i remember you know rob

i so i i remember this was i think when when me and you first started podcasting together or like around that time so i remember talking about this first of all i i remember saying before me and you were podcasting together I used to always say this back, like, in 2015, 2016. I thought Make America Great Again was one of the most brilliant campaign slogans ever. Like, it's just, it's incredible. It's, uh, it, people really underestimate this type of stuff and this is the stuff that Donald Trump is really good at. Like, it's really only, his only true talent ever has been being the best self promoter

in the history of the world. Um, and so he's very good at this. But there's something I make, look, the make America great. again is four words, but it says so much, like there's so much information that's loaded into those four words. And it's a simple thing that everybody can kind of get on board with. Like it's like we were once great. We have fallen off. We want to return to that greatness. Like there's a lot of information in those four words. A whole worldview is like encompassed in that. That there was, you know, like there was this, we were great. That greatness was compromised.

was compromised by people making decisions with who had power met our goal is to return to this greatness and that is a slogan that appeals to like almost you know not not the entire electorate but like a large percentage of people especially when you're coming off of the eight years that followed that great recession that you were just talking about and the the the the phony Obama recovery this is a huge part of why Donald Trump carried the Rust Belt and carried the purple states and, you know, and won in 2016. And then I remember talking to you about this in 2019 when Donald Trump's re-election campaign started.

And if you remember, Rob, his slogan for the campaign was, keep America great. And I remember me and you talking about this and saying, this is not a good, like, this does not have the magic of make America great again. And the major reason why Keep America Great just doesn't really work is because now anyone who doesn't feel great isn't really on board with that. You know, make it great again is vague enough that anyone who doesn't feel great could go, oh, there's going to be great. But Keep America Great is telling people that your current situation is great. Now, if that's not the case, there's a real disconnect there. Oh, you're saying I keep this?

I don't get some imagined better. I get to maintain this. And then, me and you were talking about this in 2019. Then 2020 hits and it's lockdowns and riots and, you know, just chaos and tech censorship. And it's like the worst year in modern American history for most people. I mean, the amount of like job insecurity and anxiety and isolation and depression and, you know, fear of the germ itself and all of this just the crazy and he had that slogan he was already married to that slogan because they had made it the official slogan of the campaign and so

Donald Trump imagine Rob is running by the end of 2020 on keep it going keep America great like great what do you so it was just it was a disaster and if you know if people want to get tribal and loyal to Donald Trump or something like that maybe you want to look away from this but we're going to play some video clips on this show of Donald Trump's interview that he just did with Laura Ingram. And I'm telling you, it's much worse than that. I mean, maybe it's not worse than saying keep America great at the end of 2020, but it's up there. And I'm telling you right now, I'm getting ahead of this thing. This is, if something doesn't change here, the Republicans are going to get stomped in the midterms.

And if something doesn't change here, they're very likely going to lose the presidency in 2008. And tell me if I'm wrong, Rob and you and an audience member yelling at the screen or you guys at part of the problem.com in the chat, tell me if you think I'm wrong. But let's look at some of these clips here because I don't think you can overstate like what a disaster some of them are. Do you want to say anything else before we get into them, Rob, or you want to

no, let's roll right in. Okay. All right. Let's jump in. Right, here we go. Are people saying they're anxious about the economy? Why are they saying that? I don't know that they are saying.

I think polls are fake. We have the greatest economy we've ever had. We will have over $20 trillion come into our economy, And it's largely because of my election, but it's also largely because of tariffs. Even somebody that's going to be. And why are people saying they're anxious about this? And there's another clip about the economy that we'll get to in a second that's even worse. But look, this is, as we, Rob, we covered this for the entire year of 2024, knee and you, the entire year.

This is Joe Biden's economic defense. It is identical. It is the exact same thing. Ms. if you remember, this is what they rolled out for the entire year of 2024. This was their economic pitch. No, you're just stupid. I know you think the economy is bad, but that's because you're so dumb. And actually, the problem is just that you've been manipulated to feel that the economy is bad.

And look at this fancy chart I got here with a big number. $20 trillion is coming in. Like, you know, it's like, look, between, and I don't know, Rob, you might know these charts better than me, right? But like, when you look at whatever the numbers are, it's so goofy. But if you look at, like, Barack Obama, Donald Trump, Joe Biden, and Donald Trump, like those terms. So the last, you know, eight or the last two eight terms plus this one year or whatever, they've created what? Like 70% of the money that's ever been created in the history of the world or something like that. Like, you know what I mean? You look at those charts, like the amount of money creation.

So yeah, you could say, look, trillions, tens of trillions, you know, all this money. But that's not what people are talking about. So here you have, this is the message of Donald Trump. You know, it's like, oh, why do people have such economic anxiety? I don't know, because they're wrong, because they're stupid, because they've been fooled. And I mean, like, how much do you need to look around, Rob, before you go like, okay, Israel's getting every bit of funding that they need to keep destroying Gaza, Ukraine's still being funded, Epstein's still being covered up.

Where's government spending? Okay, it's higher than it was the last year. My point basically is not only do we get Joe Biden's presidency, but we also get Joe Biden's defense for the economy. Like, if there was a way to seize defeat from the jaws of victory, to take this monumental a historic victory from a year ago and just have blown it all, you know, just blown it all in a year, there's your message right there. Everybody concerned with the economy, you're wrong and kind of stupid.

And the real victim here is Donald Trump. It's not even a coherent pitch because let's just go with that $20 trillion is accurate. Firstly, he's stating it like he's already collected $20 trillion. I think the most – I really got to dig in and debunk this, but I think the most favorable position is over the next 10 years or 30 years, they might see $10 trillion in tariff revenue. Now, that doesn't equate for any lost taxes or economic development because of increased costs. But let's just go with $20 trillion is coming in from tariffs.

He doesn't mean that they've already collected $20 trillion. I don't think that's going to take much to debunk. We have not made $20 trillion. in the last four months that he's had a tariff policy or anywhere close to it yes so let's just go with that there is uh 20 trillion dollars coming in from tariffs over an extended period of time then the pitch would be i'm the first president that actually solved the nation's debt and i understand that right now you're seeing an increase in costs and you're seeing a halt in economic development but the favor i just did for your grandkids and the economy in three or four years from now

as we're actually paying down the debt i'm the first true conservative That would be the pitch. But when people are not in a favorable economic environment and prices are going up and you're telling them about, firstly, a phony sum of money, $20 trillion is not coming in. You're also not even applying it for the debt. So what exactly is the pitch here of the $20 trillion coming in? You would at least need the next line of, listen, I understand all of your prices are going up and you don't have a job, but I'm tariffing people and $20 trillion are coming in, and I'm going fully socialist. So I'm actually going to start sending you the money directly and you can thank China for the fact that you don't have to work anymore. I can't actually get you a factory job, but look, you got a check coming from China. The point I'm just trying to make is that this pitch of, oh, well, there's $20 trillion coming in from tariffs. So now explain to me. So what's the pitch? How does that help me? I'm an American. I don't like my job. I'm driving an Uber. I got a college degree. Don't have a job that I want. Don't know how to afford a home. How does $20 trillion in

tears coming in help me yeah no that's right no you're right it's a totally incoherent pitch but also you know right like i agree with everything you said there and and i think at the heart of it like you said you got people in these situations like you're you're right you said you're a kid with a college degree uh you come out of college now you're working at door dash and you have 200 grand in debt and the average single family home is going for 600 grand in your area and you're like dude i mean i make yeah like look i mean i don't know the median household income is still like i think around 70 grand in the country so that that's the median household you know you're a 22 23 year old maybe you're coming at you know you're working at door dash what are you making for that 40 grand a year

or something like that you know imagine you're making 40 grand a year and you're 200 grand in debt and the average house goes for 600 grand you explain to me how you get ahead in life like that and so you're in that situation and then the price of everything is getting more and more expensive and then Donald Trump's going to tell you no dude what do you have economic anxiety for I got 20 trillion here like do I have 20 trillion like what does this even mean it's just it's so bad it is so bad and so pathetic um 20 trillion dollars and listen I I didn't like green energy or windmills, but what I do like is nuclear power so that I can hand over all of the nation's resources to AI developers who are already extraordinarily wealthy. Because if we want to stay ahead of China, we don't need free markets.

We need the government to intervene and make sure that there's enough energy supplies for this AI tech development. Yeah. Well, that's right. I mean, look, I do think that there is a, as I think Hayek would have said, a fatal conceit. which I think is what you're getting to here, right? Like there's this fatal conceit from the Republicans if they are, even if they're saying tariffs are how you get rich or something like that. It's like, oh, so like taxing the people who are ripping you off,

that's kind of what you're getting at here. Like, so you've already conceded the entire moral framework to socialism. And look, you guys, everybody should be aware of this. I mean, you can just see the writing is all on the wall. It's obvious that, look, All the energy goes to Donald Trump because the regime is just so corrupt and so criminally corrupt and is destroying the country. Donald Trump gets in there on this promise of drain the swamp, doesn't drain anything. Things are more expensive than ever now.

And who comes in to fill that void? The socialist left saying here's your answer. Because they're always going to have a quicker answer. Their answer essentially is that, look, I mean, all of this government interventionist stuff is social. to one degree or another, and Donald Trump's essentially going, we need socialism to fight, you know, Israel's war, right? Like, we need a government program of taxing Israel. We need socialism to bomb whatever, Venezuela. We need socialism to bomb Iran.

We need socialism to fix the economy. We need social. And it's just pretty easy eventually for a leftist to come in and go, I say we need socialism to make your rent cheaper. who wins in that argument who wins a hundred out of a hundred times and you almost can't even blame the young people for going more in that direction at a certain point um and you know as you saw with the mom-dani thing then essentially all the establishment can say is he's an anti-semit well why is he an anti-semit because he doesn't support israel and they're like we like that about him okay next like what okay we also don't

support Israel. What the hell are you talking about? That especially in this environment where like everybody who is critical of Israel has at least once been called an anti-Semite. So now you're just calling him an anti-Semite. They're like, yeah, that's what we get called. Okay. All right, guys, let's take a moment and thank our sponsor for today's show, which is my Patriot Supply and their Black Friday survival special is coming up. You know, ever since COVID, millions of Americans have started buying preparedness supplies. I've said often that I think COVID was what the great depression was for my grandfather's generation, where it just affected them. And they were like, I know personally for me, I will always have a supply of food and fresh water and just preparedness

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and for the last several months, eggs, gas, a dinner cost for Thanksgiving way down. But other things, have you noted, have gone up, beef, coffee, auto repairs. Is this a voter perception issue of the economy, or is there more that needs to be done by Republicans on Capitol Hill, or done in terms of policy? than anything else it's a con job by the democrats they're saying they just have a thing you know they put out something say today costs her up they feed it to the anchors of a bc CBS and nbc and a lot of other and you know CNN and et cetera and it's like a standard i'll never forget they had

used a word like manufactured you remember the word manufacture it's a manufactured economy nobody uses that word every anchor broke the manufactured they do exactly what they say it's such a rig system So are you ready? Costs the way down. Gasoline is going to be hitting $2 pretty soon or around $2. Gasoline is at $270 now, and it was at $4.50 under Biden under Sleepy Joe. When gasoline comes down, when energy comes down and everybody agrees, energy is down, we're drill, you know, drill baby drill. We're going like wild.

We produce more gasoline oil and gas in the last month than we ever have before by far. And we're going to also end up filling up the national strategic. which were taken out by Biden in order to try and win an election, didn't work out too well. They capped in, that's supposed to be for war, for national emergency, not to get... So are you saying that voters are misperceiving how they feel, or... So when I took over, you remember... Because you said Biden did that, too, because he was saying things were great. Let's say it's synonymous, Biden and Kamala, you know, because you didn't know who the hell was campaigning.

I mean, you got to a point. So I was up by 20 points on Biden or some... crazy number. And they said, all right, let's get him out. We'll put a new one. This never happened to anybody. All of a sudden, I have somebody new. And they had the six-week honeymoon, you know, which was standard in the world of politics. She got a little honeymoon.

And she had her little honeymoon, but then eventually people got to know her too. And then they had the 60 Minutes catastrophe where they, you know, changed her answer. Housing costs are... I just thought, I don't know, I just loved the at the way it just ends. Housing... Like, I got to say, first of all, because we get into

just like how ridiculous and how terrible this answer is. Again, it is, Rob, it's like, you know, that the Facebook meme where, like, there's four pictures and everyone just turns into Joe Biden a little bit more. Like, he's just Joe Biden by the end. But I also got to say, there's this quality about Donald Trump that is this energy, this big ball of charismatic narcissism that when utilized correctly is something people really like about him but then when it misses the mark it really is an ugly thing because that's how narcissism is it's actually a very ugly thing when you really get a look at it and so when Donald Trump is um

when he's pissing off all the worst people in america when Donald Trump is the candidate and all the people who ruined the country are like I'm very offended by him well now you know he can kind of do no wrong and no matter what brash thing he says you're kind of on his side because you know screw those guys and then when you know making kelly's like you've said horrible things about women and this and he's like only rosy o'd Donald or whatever you're like you know it's like yeah i get him um and you don't even mind a little bit of his own egotistical stuff in there when he's promising to win for you but it's such a different thing when the question is okay you're the presiding ruler now and you're not winning for them and then he transitions to

to just bragging about himself, just bragging about the election that he won, just bragging about how nice the White House looks or how, you know, it's like that really does not work. Like I just tell you guys right now, this just is not going to resonate. But again, he's, to the broader point, he's doing exactly what Joe Biden did

during the years of high price inflation under Biden. Remember, Rob, where they would pick one thing and they'd be like, hot, yeah, beans are down. Hot dogs are still reasonable. The buns are three times as expensive, so probably you're going to have to go with that buns. But the dog itself, you could still afford. And they're like, dude, what are you?

I mean, this attempt at gaslighting. You know, I know we made this point a lot. It almost feels like we're regurgitating the stuff we were saying about Joe Biden because Trump's saying the same stuff. But this is not, you know, if you want to try to convince people that climate change is real, well, like, okay, a lot of people could buy that. Hey, listen, the scientists. figured this out they got their charts and graphs they're looking at data and they're they're um putting

together you know projections that you probably aren't educated enough to understand you know and and you could do this with a lot of different things but when it comes to the economy when it comes to are things more expensive you're telling people to ignore their lying eyes this is what joe biden was doing during the years of price like what regular person everyone i know everyone i know including including the people who are really high earners, because I know a lot of people who make really good money, everybody I know, but everyone who has a job with all adults are talking about today is how expensive everything is. Like, everybody's talking about this. It's the running conversation that everyone in every one of their friend groups has. Like, what the hell? Like,

I just got a coffee for $6. What the hell is going on? None of this makes sense to any of us. you know like i like just the money that we don't even understand money anymore because it's been debased so much like i'm so out of touch like i told you know like i go to like a burger joint for my family and get like four burgers and some fries and a soda and you're like what i owe you a hundred and thirty dollars like all right i guess that's what money is today like i to me that was not that's not what money is supposed to be that's like we went to a fancy restaurant and sat down or something. But the idea that you're going to tell people that prices are down when they are not, it's just objectively not true. Yes, there are certain prices that you can find in an economy

filled with, you know, like a few billion different prices. You could point to a few that are down. But overall, they're up and up substantially. They're up like three and a half percent year to date just by the CPI. And the CPI never accounts for the real increase in prices. So like, yes, prices are worse. They're everything you had to deal with under Biden, but higher than that. And if the strategy is to say, nah, ah, that ain't true. That's the Democrats winning Congress and the presidency. Now, I hope people understand, like, how dire the situation of that is.

Like, it's not a joke, man. The last time they were in, they really tried to, like, cramp down on free speech and freedom in general in this country. And they're going to be coming back with a vengeance. This shit is going to lead to them taking the country back. All right. The first thing I'm going to say is important is I moved in my chair and it made a fart noise. And that wasn't me. I'm smart enough to mute the thing and stare at the camera if I need a pass win. So that was it. That was a very Trumpian response though. Whatever you think you're seeing and hearing, that's just not happening. And I would own it. It's a Democratic hoax. I just want the audience to know I'm at least professional enough to mute my mic under such circumstances. But once again, you know, This is a decent pitch to go, listen, I'm working on oil prices, and once energy is cheaper, you're going to see costs come down.

The problem is, I think a lot of people are actually seeing increased energy costs, which is because of the data in AI centers, and a lot of that stuff is not on an oil grid. But I don't know the specifics on that. But what's just another contradiction is if you actually get to $2 oil pricing, I'd have to research this, but my guess is that shuts down United States oil drilling. because I remember in the past the lower price like fracking is really only profitable like at some of the higher prices and so I'm just going to guess that there's a contradiction in there as well of I got oil down to two to two dollars a gallon and also we're going to be drill baby drill because I think if you get it down to two dollars a gallon it's no longer a drill baby drill environment right right no that's a good point that's a good point yeah I just don't I can't the the real fundamental problem here, right? And this is that we and we laid it out on yesterday's show, but it's just

that like Donald Trump doesn't have either the knowledge or the balls to just tackle the real problem. And that is really at the heart of all of this. You know, we have an empire that we cannot afford to maintain and a welfare state that we cannot afford to maintain. Now I said I'm really talking about the entitlements. We can't afford. any of this shit we're going broke and we're printing the money to make up for it and this is debasing the currency and it's leading to the prices of everything uh going up and if you're not going to take on that and you're also not even willing to like expose the stuff that the deep state's doing like epstein stuff well there's there's drain the swamp that's it you know at this point

we're just kind of you know there was this old um there was this old episode of uh the office where they um it's been a while since i watched this but they like uh they sent like they're filming a commercial for dunder mifflin and so they send a crew over to the scranton branch to go and michael's very excited because they're like you're going to get some creative input on this and he has this whole concept for the commercial and then they they play the commercial and they're like uh it's like at the end of the commercial is the branch people waving and they're like oh that's the part you get to be creative with like you don't have to wave you could do thumb up you could do it and he realizes he can't actually he doesn't actually have creative control over

this whole thing he's got this little tiny splice at the end and there's really not that much you can do with that and it's kind of like you say you're going to drain the swamp okay but we're not going to cut the pentagon you know because that's like I believe in a in a larger pentagon budget like okay also I won't touch entitlement programs because I don't want to lose the votes of senior citizens like okay also I won't really release the Epstein information because you know, I don't want to upset powerful people or maybe I'm protecting myself or whatever. Also, we're not really going to prosecute Obama, even though he said we have the proof that he's guilty of treason. And at a certain point, you're like, well, then what are we even left with here?

What does drain the swamp mean? And it means what we're seeing, Rob. We got Chauncey Billups. An NBA coach was gambling on NBA games. All right. You know, that's the type of shit we got. and then it's like little then look i'm not even saying like you know i don't know i'd have to sit down and go is is don't trump refilling the strategic reserves of petroleum is that like a good call or a bad call like i don't know i'd have to sit down but all i know is that this is tinkering around the edges this just does not even grapple with any of the major problems that we have like the major major problems that we have in this country and of course a huge component of that i would argue the major component of that is that the entire system is run by the war party and the war party

ain't interested in any of that shit war party ain't interested in sound money because you can't be a world empire with sound money and so you know it's just like don't trump's in a position where once you're you're abandoning all of that then all you have left is this and and i'll tell you part of the reason why it's a um and i'm not like i'm not a republican you know what i mean like i don't know i've voted republican before and i've supported some republicans but really only a handful ron paul and um i guess i supported ram paul early in 2016 and trump this last time and a couple others but like and Thomas Massey, obviously. But like, so I'm not just saying this like, hey, guys, I want our team to win.

It's like, I want the country to win. I see the Democrats as being the biggest threat to the country. But again, as I've made this point before, Rob, what is J.D. Vance going to run on after this? Like, once you've said that, what's he going to say? It's like, now, seriously, this time, we're really going to drain the swamp. You're, you know, you're tanking the entire credibility of the administration. I mean, look, Rob, like, am I exaggerating here? But if you just, I think we got our finger on the polls to some degree of this world.

We live in this world, you know. If you just think about, forget even the polls, right? Because I understand people don't trust polls that much. But like, also when you have the same poll, had them at record high, now has him at record low, you know, okay, there's something there. but forget even the polls just in the hearts and minds of the people the esteem that trump was held in a year ago compared to now so you kind of can't even measure how much he's fallen and it's not just him it's all of them dude cash patel dan bun gino tulsie gabbard um you know uh bobby kennedy

all of them they're just all like they've and and when you you seed that energy politically speaking, what you're also putting in jeopardy is the fact that, and correct me if I'm wrong on this, Rob, but over the last few years, this is the only time in the history of my life where the cultures moved to the right. There's never been a period of time. The culture was steadily moving to the left always. It was, they used to run on this feeling of inevitability. You remember how every time you'd ever be in an argument with like a social justice warrior, they would just say you're on the wrong side of history, as if it was a given that history is moving in their direction, because it kind of seemed like that for a long time.

And for the first time, we actually really moved the, and you put all of that in jeopardy when the administration that that cultural shift, you know, was embodied by fails at everything. It's a really dangerous ground. All right, guys, let's take a moment and thank our sponsor for today's show, which is Brunt work wear these boots are incredible they sent me a pair of these if you are working on a job site if you need a good pair of work boots you got to check out brunt these things are they're excellent work boots they're really cool looking and they feel like you're wearing slippers they're the most comfortable pair of work boots you'll ever put on like forever we've always thought that if you want

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that'll help us out all right let's get back into the show you know not that this is a perfect analytic but uh earlier into trump man the pushback i was getting anytime you criticized him and i don't firstly i don't experience that anymore but i don't really see people like out with trump hats trump signs trump did you know what i mean it seems like very quietly, it's like the backpedaling out of the room, like the Peter Griffin or I think it's the Homer Simpson. The Homer Simpson went into the bushes. Yeah, where he just backs back in. It feels like, you're right, all the enthusiasm for all these characters is seemingly not there anymore. It almost in a way feels like, I don't know, I'm trying to think of the right example, but you know, like a TV show or something like that, like you're like trying to make, you know, there's like a girl who's trying to make a guy jealous or something like that. So she's like all over another guy because she wants that guy to see.

But then that guy like leaves. And then she's like, oh, okay. Yeah, no, I don't actually like you. Like I was just trying to make that guy jealous or something like that. Like it's like Donald Trump was this tool to piss everybody else off. But then you take them out and he's just there. And you're like, oh, well, I don't know. And I will tell you again, I try not, you know, it's hard.

This is something actually I was talking about with that Constantine Kucin on the Trigonometry podcast the other day, which was very good, by the way. I really enjoyed doing it. I really appreciated those guys. I thought the whole spirit of the thing was they really, they didn't come in and try to like win and get me, which I kind of was, you know, I wasn't sure, but I thought, but we really just had like a conversation.

It really wasn't a debate. It was just like a good conversation about all this stuff. But anyway, this kind of like this idea came up where we were talking about how like we're all a little bit blinded by our own perspectives and our own algorithms and the worlds that we're in. And so sometimes it's tough to get a gauge. But I just used, like I said, I used the Stephen Crowder appearance of mine

as an interesting gauge to me because, like, the same way I used that Charlie Kirk appearance because you're like, you know, this is like the MAGA, you know, base home. This is where the most hardcore Trump loyalist should be. And I'm sitting there on both of those things. Like the topic is you're calling for this guy to be, you know, tried for war crimes and exit.

upon conviction or something like that and I'm like, yeah, that's right. And here's why. And the audience is just overwhelmingly like not only just not only not only not turned off by that, but just like I'm listening. Yep. And so I don't know what you can say. And and like as we've talked about many times, obviously there was, 24 was an unbelievably unique situation. You know, Donald Trump had, like I said before, he had captured the culture and all this stuff. It made a completely new coalition. He had flipped, like, the paradigm upside down. He was carrying young people.

He was winning a higher percentage of blacks and Latinos. And he carried independence. And he won over the middle. Then he was even able to carry the defected liberals, right? Like, he was able to carry. There were a lot of liberals who, over the last, you know, 10 years, particularly over the last five years, we're like, yo, this is a little bit too crazy.

You know, this was a huge voting block. It's still to this day where is a big chunk of America that there were like people who were pretty much liberals who were like, okay, but like men competing in women's sports, what? Wait, what? Locking down the country? wait, forcing an experimental vaccine into people, wait a minute, pretending a brain dead senile guy as sharp as attack? You know, there were just like things where it was like, yeah, that's a bridge

too far for me. This is represented by Tulsi Gabbard and Bobby Kennedy and Nicole Shanahan and Jillian Michaels and just like a lot of people like that. And Donald Trump carried that that, you know, group. And so now you had a situation where Donald Trump was bringing in the people like Bobby Kennedy and Tulsi Gabbard and, you know, some who at least much more anti-war than the establishment was. And Donald Trump had also been now the victim of this crazy lawfare where they actually tried to put him in jail. He was, there were multiple assassination attempts.

He was coming back. And there was this new coalition. And it was like, hey, there are possibilities here that we maybe never really accounted for. Okay. it was something that at least warranted like taking a second look and really trying to grapple with the moment. But the fact is that this is not the first time Donald Trump's been president. It's the second time. And the first time ended in 2020.

It ended with Donald Trump failing on the most important moment of his life. And it was his failure. You know, don't get me wrong, it was a lot of people's failure. But it was his failure. He was the president of the United States of America, and he was the one who declared the national emergency, and he was the one who made Fauci the face of the pandemic response, and he was the one who went out of his way to attack countries like Sweden for not locking down and attack governors who weren't locking down enough. Donald Trump failed 2020 miserably, and he left America with Joe Biden, and he is failing again. And he might leave us with something even worse than that. So particularly for those of us who did support him in this last election,

I think it's kind of extra incumbent on us to be the ones pointing this out. That like, hey, there was a possibility here. It's been more than clearly signaled at this point that essentially none of those positives are going to come. You know, I think we've gotten what we could get already out of the Trump administration. I don't think we're getting anything else. certainly feels like the current climate it's just uh teasing venezuelan wars more spending uh you know more central planning it's uh none of what we hope for yeah at least although i guess at least

we're not being censored by democrats at the moment yes at the moment that the moment that is true at least listen we are reaping still we're we're reaping some of the rewards of the cultural shift over the last few years. And that's great. But if we want to keep shifting things in that direction, I think we've got to keep telling the truth about these things. All right, let's go to the next clip here. Unbelievable deal. China's paying tariffs to the United States, not the United States paying tariffs to China, which has always been the way it was. Nobody can believe these deals. But so when somebody makes a statement about He's devoting time to the world. Well, the world is the United States because of the world's in trouble

or if the world is ripping us off. You know, the world was ripping us off before I came here. Europe was getting massive tariffs. They were sending us 9, 10 million cars a year. We were sending them none. They were not taking our agriculture. We were taking massive amounts of there. It was so unfair.

Now we have a deal where $950 billion is coming into the United States because of me and because of tariffs. So if I don't do all these things, our country is doing very poorly. So, you know, it's easy to say, oh, don't worry about the world. But the world is turning out to be our biggest customer. The world is, the world was on fire. And we could have been in that fire very easily if you didn't have a president that knew what he was doing. There is Donald Trump.

There you go. Slightly different than the America First message that he rode to the White House, saying, well, actually, it is all about the world. But even what do you have here, right? Aside from just the insulting economic illiteracy about they were sending us more cars that we were sending that, like, oh, my God, you know? You know what's crazy, Rob? Is that my car dealership?

They've sent me more cars than I've sent them. Every time. I've gotten two cars from them, and they've gotten none from me. I just give them cash. Clearly, that means something. Like, what is even your conception of what economics is? It's just totally ridiculous. Rob, you know, I have a huge trade deficit with my local supermarket.

They just dump food. I've never given them food once. I just give them cash, and they give me food. So obviously, they're making me poorer, right? Something. But the point is that the question gets asked to Donald Trump, that your supporters feel like you're too focused on foreign policy and not focused enough on this country. And then he could sit there and say his whole thing, tariffs are great and everything

is great. And this is working so great. But again, now you're in the Joe Biden. Now you're in the Barack Obama position of defending your recovery that the entire country is telling you they are not feeling. But you're going, no, no, no, it's so great. And then this, and I got to say this really reminded me of Obama, as if you remember, Rob, which, you know, you're a little younger than maybe you're old enough to remember the Obama years. If you remember, that was their whole economic pitch. It was the pitch through the entire eight years where people would go, we are not feeling this recovery. And they'd go, yeah, but if we hadn't spent all this money, it'd be even worse. They'd just use the unfalsifiable counterfactual. Dick Cheney on terrorism. Yep,

that's right. That's right. It's all the same thing. If we hadn't done this, it would be even worse. That is, even though it theoretically could be true at times, it's not true in any of those cases, but like it could theoretically be true that you did something and things are bad, but it could have been worse if you hadn't done the thing. Like, that's not logically impossible to be correct,

but it is the weakest goddamn political slogan imaginable. That is how, that is what you say when you're getting ready to lose an election. I know things are really bad, but I deserve credit for it. All right. It could have been worse campaign. I know you don't like what's going on, but it would have been worse. I know it's not good, but it could have been worse.

That is the worst political messaging, you know? And that's what you're left with when you're pretty desperate because you don't have anything real to defend. Here, I'll go to, I think we had a couple questions in the chat. I'll go to one before we play the next. Oh, here is that question for Rob. I came across a discussion between Rob and Scott Horton on the Star Wars prequels

and their parallels to the American Empire. Well, the parallels to the American Empire and the Iraq War. Can you please do this again? It was fucking awesome. There you go. Well, for anyone who has never checked out Run Your Mouth, it is a great podcast, and there are multiple episodes with Scott Horton,

including a very nerdy breakdown of Star Wars and what we could learn about our political climate. And then this past year, we did a conspiracy debunker where we got into the second half of the episode, but you can hear Scott's thoughts on 9-11. I don't think you'll find that anywhere else. So go check it out. Yeah, it's interesting because I know it pisses a lot of people off

that Scott Horton's not a 9-11 truther, but, you know, he is right about everything he says. I mean, he's just got an undeniable case. There's a lot of just, there's a lot of popular conspiracies about 9-11 that really just don't stand up to the slightest bit of scrutiny. It was very, I really liked that episode a lot. Run Your Mouth is great, by the way. Anyone who listens to this, you're crazy if you don't listen to Run Your Mouth. Okay, I thought there was another one here, but maybe I missed it.

Oh, yeah, Dave, oh, this is a good question because this is actually something that you had sent Rob to the chat here. But Dave, did you see Miriam Adelson just through 20 million at Massey's next race? Yes, I did see that. And yeah, I think we're, you know, I've been talking to some people about that. I think we're going to try to do like kind of a big social media thing and really kind of push awareness about this. But isn't it crazy? Again, like Donald Trump, Donald Trump himself in a clip where we almost debate, I mean, I think you argued against me. You were probably right.

But we almost like, it was debatable. in that clip where you're like is he attacking her like is he subliminally attacking her but in that clip where he just goes basically just says that yeah she loves israel more than she loves america and man her and her husband were at my office every goddamn day and yeah they're my biggest donor but and i did so much for israel for those guys you're like what the fuck and then she is throwing money into thomas massey's race this is this is the dynamic that it's funny because there's been you know, so much talk of Nick Fuentes in this world lately, but this is the dynamic where like, you will never get rid of Nick Fuentes as long as you have this going on. It's just

too crazy. You know, and I appreciated when I was on trigonometry, I talked about this a little bit. I think the guys were pretty open to that because I'm trying, I'm kind of going like, look, guys, okay, I know there's some things about this, this guy and his people that you don't like, but let's just talk about like, come on, this is so weird. You got these people who are like crazy, influential power brokers who very clearly have loyalty to a foreign government and that they're going to try to unelect a wildly popular congressman and his i mean thomas massey how many terms is he served now he's won many elections there in kentucky clearly they like him clearly he's unlike most congressmen he's got like a national movement that's behind him and you're like the most america first congressman

you know and you out of loyalty to a foreign government are going to try to unseat him i mean what can you say about that is that's just so intolerable for any self-respecting nation so yeah yeah i did see that and it is um in some in a weird way i almost love the optics of it you know what i mean rob um because it just makes it so like how do you even argue with this here's donald trump saying she she cares about israel more than america and here she is trying to undermine the most America first congressman and why why does she not like Thomas Massey well very simple there's one reason he doesn't support Israel all right guys let's take a moment and thank our sponsor for today's show which is monetary metals an amazing company run by amazing liberty loving people and they have

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and that completely undermines what Donald Trump's trying to do or stated differently, it keeps it somewhat in check. And when he's doing some of the most nefarious things, such as, hey, there was no Epstein situation, or is making it harder for American beef producers. There's a whole list of topics. Massey's clearly right. And so we need some people that will actually talk to truth in government and hopefully, you know, put the other people on the record as being wrong and bad so we can correct things. Yeah, I couldn't agree more. And, you know, after my experiment with the Mises Caucus takeover of the Libertarian Party and after the successes and failures of that project, you know, I've been, I haven't been

focused on any grand political project, you know what I mean, since then. And I'm like, you know, I think I'm going to return to just tell them the truth about these things and doing shows and doing big debates and big podcasts and stuff and just doing kind of what I do to to move the needle as best I can on the biggest issues of the day. But if there is a political project that I'm like, oh, yeah, sign me up for that. It's like it would be, yes, we support supporting Thomas Massey in this race. And then it would be, as Tucker Carlson went on this big, we should primary Lindsay Graham and get rid of him.

And I'm like, yeah, there you go. I'm for that. I'm for getting rid of Lindsey Graham and keeping Thomas Massey. Sign me up in whatever capacity I can serve in those roles. Happy to help. So, yeah. Okay, let's do one more clip, and then we'll call it a show. Folks are not thrilled about this idea of hundreds of thousands of foreign students in the United States.

We have about 350,000 Chinese. One point during COVID, you were going to push to get them out, but that was pulled back. You've said as many as 600,000 Chinese students could come to the United States. Why, sir, is that a pro-maga position when so many American kids want to go to school and there are places not for them and these universities are getting rich off Chinese money? Never said about China, but we do have a lot of people coming in from China. We always have China and other countries. We also have a massive system of colleges and universities. And if we were to cut that in half, which perhaps makes some people happy, you would have half the colleges in the United States go out of business. So what?

Well, I think that's a big deal. Are they fans of the United States? Yeah, but you would have, as you know, historically black colleges and universities would all be out of business. You would have a system of colleges and universities would go down the tubes. So we're dependent on China to keep our university system going? No, not China, but I think it's good to have, I actually think it's good to have outside countries. Look, I want to be able to get along with the world. They're not the French.

They're the Chinese. They spy on us. They steal our intellectual property. property. Do you think the French are better? Yeah. Really? I'll tell you, I'm not so sure.

We've had a lot of problems with the French, where we get taxed very unfairly on our technology with, you know, they put 25% taxes on American products. Look, assuming everyone treats us badly, because that's the way I am. But we take in trillions of dollars from students. You know, the students pay more than double when they come in from most foreign countries. I want to see our school system thrive, but at the same time I want to be... I know you and I disagree, we're never going to agree on it, but that's okay. And it's not that I want them, but I view it as a business.

We have millions and millions of people. Also, I want to get along with countries, if possible. You know, people are shocked. Remember Hillary Clinton said, we'll be in a war. I stopped eight wars in the last nine months. I don't want to be in wars. If I am in a war, we're going to win the thing fast, and it'll be violent. But you know what?

I don't want to be in a worse. But one thing, you don't want to cut half of the people, half of the students from all over the world that are coming into our country, destroy our entire university and college system. I don't want to do that. You can end it there. That's basically it.

I mean, he goes on to say MAGA was my idea, and I know what MAGA is or something like that. It's like, man, that's, again, something you just never want to be saying. That's what you're saying to your own movement. you do what I tell you and you like what I say. I decide what MAGA is. All right.

Well, we decide who we're going to support. Good luck with that. But look, the whole thing here is, I mean, right, I guess the point here is, and I'm not even saying like, oh, no, you know, no immigrant should go to college or something like that or that, you know, like I'm sure there is an argument somewhere to be said for like, if some brilliant Indian doctor or will be in the future doctor wants to come over here and go to medical school, that it might be good for us to have more brilliant doctors over here. So, like, I don't know. There's arguments that could be made.

But I think more here, the point of this is there's really two major points here. Number one is just how out of touch the messaging with what was resonating with Donald Trump's base is. The fact is that in this country, we have tens of millions of illegal immigrants here. Somewhere between 30 to 50 million illegal immigrants in the country, no one really knows exactly how much. And the people are against that. They believe that, you know what I mean? Like, there shouldn't be this high levels of immigration, particularly illegal immigration. And Donald Trump ran on build a wall, deport them all.

now he's trying to make this argument that in fact we really need all of these foreign students and then there was i thought the moment there that was very interesting was there there is this this kind of disconnect and it's it would almost be impossible for right wingers like laura ingram to not have arrived at this place by 2025 but when donald trump goes then the whole university system would collapse and she goes so what good like what so you're telling me that the just justification for this is that we have to prop up the one of the most corrosive and corrupt institutions in america academia like don't trump when you talk about draining the swamp what did you ever even think the swamp was it's just i don't know there was something about this where you

just go like it almost like it almost reminds me of Barack Obama but like so sped up because we're talking about over a year. But, you know, if you think about where Barack Obama was in 2008 in the public consciousness, when he was given a speech in front of hundreds of thousands of people, and he was just given these beautiful speeches about, you know, the sea level stopped rising, and we took back our country and, like, all this stuff, these beautiful, these beautiful rah-rah America speeches. It's kind of like this universally beloved figure, with these crazy high approval ratings. Approval ratings up in like the high 70%,

I think when he first came in. And now you look at Obama, and he's just like this old liar, and everyone's making fun of his wife's dick. You know, like it's just like this fall from grace. And it just seems to me like Donald Trump's done that in a year. I'm okay, he was never quite an Obama figure, like as popular as Obama was at that time.

But like the energy and the vibe factor, they were calling it, you know, for a while, down to now this. It's just a pathetic falloff. It just represents like the collapse of this administration. I'll give you the last word, Robin, then let's scrap up. I agree 100%. I got to catch a flight. Goodbye, everybody.

See in New Orleans. See it at Skankfest. Come over. Say hello. And that's it. Later, dudes. We'll be doing a big pay-per-view part of the problem event over there, too. If you guys want to order it, it'll be a fun one.

Yeah, yeah, it should be a real fun one. All right. Thanks for listening, guys. Catch you next time. Peace. You know what I'm going to do.