Part Of The Problem - The Evil, Lying Netanyahu
Episode Date: May 12, 2026Dave Smith brings you the latest in politics! On this episode of Part Of The Problem, Dave discusses Benjamin Netanyahu's recent 60 Minutes interview in which he talks about the "8th front" o...f the war being social media, the rise of antisemitism, the threat of Iran, and more.Support Our Sponsors:Use code PROBLEM at http://www.fastgrowingtrees.com to save an additional 20% off your first order with Fast Growing Trees!Cowboy Colostrum - Get 25% Off Cowboy Colostrum with code DAVE at https://www.cowboycolostrum.com/DAVEProlon - https://prolonlife.com/potpSheath - https://sheathunderwear.com use promo code PROBLEMPart Of The Problem is available for early pre-release at https://partoftheproblem.com as well as an exclusive episode on Thursday!PORCH TOUR DATES HERE:https://robbernsteincomedy.com/eventsFind Run Your Mouth here:YouTube - http://youtube.com/@RunYourMouthiTunes - https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/run-your-mouth-podcast/id1211469807Spotify - https://open.spotify.com/show/4ka50RAKTxFTxbtyPP8AHmFollow the show on social media:X:http://x.com/ComicDaveSmithhttp://x.com/RobbieTheFireInstagram:http://instagram.com/theproblemdavesmithhttp://instagram.com/robbiethefire#libertarian See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
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Okay, so let's get into this episode,
which is going to be a response to Benjamin Netanyahu
on 60 minutes.
Now, Benjamin Netanyahu just sat down a couple days ago.
They just released it.
and it's interesting on so many different levels.
We're going to get into some of these clips here.
I mean, it's just really fascinating stuff.
The man is truly, I don't know.
You know, there's a funny, so neoconservatives and the Israel lobby, but I repeat myself,
have made a history of, you know, disastrous wars over the last, you know, 25 years.
and even before that,
neo-conservatives have relentlessly called everyone Hitler
who they wanted to us to fight a war with.
And you see this all the time.
The Warhawks always demonize.
Everyone is Adolf Hitler.
You know, Noriega was Adolf Hitler and, you know,
Saddam Hussein was Adolf Hitler,
Vladimir Putin's Adolf Hitler.
Everybody gets called Hitler.
Romar Gaddafi was Hitler for a moment there.
But like there was, I just say, I know that they go to this all the time.
I know that it's very lazy.
Watching this interview, it was Hitlerian.
Like, I don't know what other word to use to describe it.
You know, of course, on our last episode, our last public episode, last week, we were talking about how Donald Trump had just announced the war is over.
And we were pointing out that it very much is not.
And then, in fact, nothing has changed.
Okay, well, since then, Donald Trump has essentially announced that the deal fell through with Iran.
That he, he is, I mean, it's really, it's comical.
He is saying, he's claiming that they agreed that we could come in and take all their enriched geranium.
And then they changed their mind and turned around to that.
So now he's blasting them for making a deal and not sticking to it or something like that.
First of all, he's lying through his teeth.
They clearly never agreed to this.
But addition to that, just think about the mentality of Donald Trump,
who has in the middle of negotiations, attacked around twice,
launched wars of aggression against them in the middle of negotiations.
He's now criticizing them for changing their mind, which didn't happen.
But even if it did, like, he's the one who tore up the JCPOA,
but he said they made a deal and then didn't stick to it.
Anyway, in the middle of all of this, as Donald
Trump is announcing the war is over and trying to make a deal. Benjamin Netanyahu is being interviewed.
And it just, I don't know, it does have this feel of like, oh, at least we get a few minutes with
the real boss who will let us know whether the war is over or not. All right, let's get into this
because there's so many clips here. So let's just get in and start playing them. Let's start from the
beginning, Natalie. Tributes the reputational harm to Israel almost entirely to social media,
which he calls the eighth front of the war.
Because it's this, this is yours right.
Do you not immune either.
Because you can penetrate this machine.
You can penetrate this little instrument.
And you can say about Major Garrett anything you want.
And I can paint you as a monster.
And if I say it often enough, people will believe it.
Do you believe Israel is at risk of losing this war on the war?
that social media front.
And this is particularly, I believe, important in America
for younger Americans, Republican and Democrat,
scrolling through images, and they would use words
like barbaric in Gaza and in Lebanon.
Israel has gone to unbelievable lens
to get innocent civilians out of harm's way.
We text message millions of text messages to them,
make millions of phone calls to them,
pamphlets, leaflets, you name,
Okay, we have seen the deterioration of support for Israel in the United States almost
I would say it correlates almost 100% with the
Geometric rise of social media and that by itself is not what caused it and I don't believe in
You know in censoring them or anything, but I'll tell you what happened we have several countries
that basically manipulated social media and they do it in a clever
overweight. And that's
something that is hurt us badly.
Is it your belief, Mr. Prime Minister?
All right, Leah, let's pause it. Let's pose it here.
Let's pause it here because he's about to ask a follow-up question on this.
By the way, I want to say here, I think Major does a terrible job with this interview.
I see some people going kind of soft on him here, but I think it's this thing I point out
all the time where like they're, they're pretending to be a journalist.
Like he's pretending to kind of ask some of the tough questions.
but then, of course, letting him off the hook every single time.
So when Benjamin Netanyahu, and there's a few things that are really worth noting here,
number one, it is worth noting that he acknowledges, this is a point I make a lot,
but he acknowledges that they're losing the eighth front of the war.
The eighth front, meaning the propaganda war.
And so he's losing, he admits he's losing it.
But of course, the answer can only be because of everything else other than the obvious.
You know, he says, you know, the rise in, like in Israel's, you know, being hated, or the rise in, I don't know, it's a weird way to say it.
The rise in the fall of support for Israel happens to line up.
Perfectly correlates with the rise of social media.
Well, that's not really true.
Now is it? I mean, social media, when did social media get big?
Are you telling me it was October of 23?
Because social media was pretty big for, I don't know, the preceding decade, right?
I mean, yes, I'm sure you could argue that social media, maybe the usage has gone up in the last three years.
I don't actually know, to be honest.
I have an interesting thing to look up.
But it's not as if, like, oh, my God, all of a sudden,
We have Facebook and Twitter.
And then that, like, when that first happened, when we first had Facebook and Twitter,
Israel's support did not plummet that year or the next year or over the next decade.
It's like, yes, it is now.
There were changes in dynamics in social media, right?
Major changes.
He does not want to mention this.
But there were major changes that had immediately preceded the destruction of Gaza, like Elon Musk buying Twitter.
And what's his name?
Zuckerberg saying he wasn't going to.
censor anymore on Facebook and
Instagram and YouTube stop.
So like tech censorship had
kind of receded quite a bit from where
it was a few years earlier. But
okay, if you want to say
that the, this
free fall of drop
of support of Israel
correlates with something,
well, what does it really, really
correlate with the genocide
in Gaza?
What are we talking about here?
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All right, let's get back into the show. And, you know, this stuff where, you know, again,
and we just heard so much of this through the last couple of years.
But, you know, to say we sent text messages or we dropped leaflets or we did any of this,
it's like, yeah, well, okay.
Israel does everything in their power not to kill innocent civilians.
Yeah, except not killing them.
Like, it's just, you can't say I do everything in my path.
Like, if I just, like, for the sake of the matter, I don't know.
If I told everyone to evacuate a building and then I just empty machine gun fired through the building and a lot of people didn't evacuate and a lot of them got killed, I can't say I did everything I could to make sure innocent people in there didn't get killed.
Because no, there was one thing you did that you could have not done.
So that's a thing.
That falls under the category of everything.
And so, and that's actually the biggest one.
The biggest one was killing all of them.
And, you know, he can say that we drop leaflets and this or that.
It goes, yeah, yeah.
But first of all, they do not always do that.
Also, oftentimes there's nowhere for the people to evacuate to.
Also, oftentimes the people get killed when they go to the place where they're supposed to evacuate.
We all read about this through the destruction of Gaza.
And you killed like 100,000 people there, probably more.
So, yeah, I mean, I don't know.
it's like say what you want to but it's like what are people seeing on social media what is the
connection between social media and people hating Israel okay well there's just for example today
okay today there's this viral video going around and it is a and i'm sure people listening to
this i apologize for describing really gruesome shit but i'm sure you've seen a lot of this over the
last two and a half years but so there's this new one out and and i know people will dispute
well, this video is fair or this video isn't real.
And honestly, the truth is that it just doesn't even really matter because so many of the videos are real.
And we know this level of human suffering is going on.
Even Benjamin Netanyahu can't deny it.
He has to get into some how the hell of war stuff and how he personally knows and he lost a brother in war.
And so it's like he's pretending that this is that.
But so the video that's going viral today is a, I guess a five-year-old who's hysterically crum.
crying, consoling his two-year-old brother who's hysterically crying because they both just lost
their mother.
And, okay, so anyway, so that's what people are seeing on social media.
This is what we're talking about here.
And like, I don't know, most human beings, when they see that, they don't go, oh, I'm sorry.
Oh, you dropped a pamphlet?
Well, then what are we talking about here?
There's no moral issue.
I mean, you knew this was going to happen whether you dropped the pamphlet or not,
but if you dropped a pamphlet, then we don't got to think about that five-year
old and that two-year-old, you know, that is not the attitude of any decent human being.
And so, you know, just forget that.
But then, of course, he puts, while he's not, and of course, Major's about to ask the
follow-up question here, Israel's actions of anything to do with this.
Which already, like, this is what I mean, he did a terrible job.
What a ridiculous question.
It's just not even the way you would ask a question.
And you'll see them, like journalists, when they have permission and when someone makes
some shit like that up, if they'll push back, if Donald Trump were to say, you know,
I believe we won the election in 2020.
The first thing one of these journalists would say, so that's not true.
But he won't give them that here.
So this is not true.
But if he's like, for example, Netanyahu makes here what is a very bold claim?
You know, for how much these guys all, you know, like when you hear people bashing,
Candice Owens or Tucker Carlson or me or whoever.
They call us conspiracy theorists.
They go, oh, you're the just asking questions crowd.
Oh, if you believe something about Epstein or the Israel lobby or this,
oh, you have this whole conspiracy in your mind.
You know, someone just told Scott Horton the other day on Pierce Morgan Show,
where he referenced the Samson option.
And he goes, oh, this is conspiracy cooquerie right here.
And he's like, Seymour Hirsch wrote a whole book about it.
Like, one of the most well-respected journalists of the last 100 years, wrote an entire book.
But anyway, but so here you have Benjamin Netanyahu.
He throws out that, in fact, there are one or two countries who are like heavily manipulating
social media.
And this is why we're seeing so many images that are making people angry at Israel.
And just to be clear, he presents no.
evidence of this, absolutely zero. Not even a claim, not even a reason why he suspects that,
or we know this, and so that kind of indicates this. Just throw it out there. Why is everyone
doing this? I don't know. Foreign propaganda. Foreign propaganda is something that Benjamin Netanyahu
throws out with no evidence to back it up. Like Benjamin Netanyahu, who's on videotape,
meeting with American influencers talking about the acquisition of TikTok and how this is a wonderful
thing because like the guy who's actively trying to control social media openly bragging about
it just claims that's what other countries are doing.
Is that every every accusation is a confession type shit, you know, and presents no evidence
whatsoever.
And it's like, no, dude, what's what's clearly going on here, what's clearly going on is that
Social media was around.
It was not being censored, at least not in the draconian fashion that it had previously been.
And Israel launched a genocide.
And so they launched a genocide in an environment where people critical of Israel could speak, could make their case.
Videos of what they were doing could be shown to the world.
And this was the environment that led to them losing the propaganda war.
I'm sorry, but this is just obvious for anyone to say.
and anyone who's trying to pretend that this is all just an op,
it's not that we've just been kicking their ass in this very, very public debate
for two and a half years now.
That's not the answer.
The answer is that all of that is some type of manipulation.
It appears that way, but it's not really that way because of Qatari bots or something
like that.
Okay.
Show me a shred of evidence to back that up.
Like, what do you have?
Other than just asserting that that's what?
what's going on, that it's not that on Pierce Morgan, there'll be a pro-Israel guy versus an
anti-Israel guy. They argue, and the entire crowd goes, the pro-Israel guy is full of shit.
Because that's what we all see, but you're claiming it's something else. And yet,
you might notice they never have, literally, they never have anything to point to. Nothing.
And, of course, Major does not push him on this. He's just allowed to make that assertion.
There's a really bold one, and then we'll just going to move on.
All right.
So now we can move on to the second part, which is a good second part of the question.
The thing that Israel has done, tactically or strategically, has made no mistakes either in Gaza or the West Bank that have, in their own way, contributed to this negative impression of Israel, whether it's on social media or someplace.
No, of course, look, it's war.
And in war, armies sometimes miss.
Civilians die.
And these are mistakes.
These are not deliberate things that happen.
Pause it here already.
Pause it here already.
Because it's just, you get the point I'm making here about what a hack journalist major is,
that he's literally going, like, think about that question.
But is there any strategic or tactical mistake that you made that may have contributed to
why people hate you. It's like, this is like sitting down with Adolf Hitler and going, you know,
the world hates you over this whole Holocaust thing and him being like, oh, you know, it's just that
the Jews run the media and they've convinced everybody that this is, you know what I mean?
Like it's just, well, that's just the action. They go, now, but in your own genocide, were there
any tactical mistakes that you, you know, like, what? What is this? And then, of course,
he's going to go, like this whole, this same bullshit. The bottom line is that,
the reason why you're losing on this eighth front,
just think about this right already,
where they go,
you're losing on the eighth front
is what they call the fucking propaganda war.
Why is it the eighth front?
Because there's fucking seven other fronts, right?
Because you're destroying Gaza, the West Bank,
the Houthis, Iran, Lebanon,
like because you're fighting so many wars that you,
it's the eighth front is the propaganda.
Okay, look.
The reason why you're losing is because this is not a response, man, to go, hey,
yeah, we've made some tactical mistakes.
Sometimes armies miss.
Dude, no one's talking about where you missed.
That's not what the conversation's even about.
And that is also true and also tragic that sometimes you hit the wrong building or whatever.
Man, look, I'd like to assume that that American tomahawk that hit that little girl's school was a miss.
But please hope that that was not intentional.
But the apartment buildings in southern Lebanon that the IDF has been taking down, I don't know, let's say this morning, they didn't miss.
That was the target.
They hit their target.
They destroyed Gaza.
Your target was Gaza.
There's two million people live there.
And so, like, yeah, you destroy the whole thing.
A lot of people die.
I mean, you know, so to just get out of it with, like,
Like, yeah, sometimes, you know, in wars, bad things happen.
It's like, right.
Okay.
Let's be real specific about the bad things.
Like that five-year-old boy, you know, comforting his two-year-old brother.
That's the type.
That's what happens when you launch wars like this.
And that's what decent people tend to be opposed to.
All right.
Let's keep playing.
Media front on the propaganda front.
And we've not done well on the propaganda war.
Yeah. So, you know, at least he does admit that.
Well, why do you think that might be?
Why do you think it might be that you're not doing well in the propaganda war?
It's like because when you come here and you may, it's not like you have some new argument or you have it, you have nothing.
You have, I mean, literally what, what Benjamin Netanyahu just presented here is the type of garbage argument that I've seen 25 different people bring to me unlike Pierce Morgan or other debates.
or something like that. And it's just, it's very easy to just tear it to shreds because this is
nonsense. We're losing the propaganda war. Well, what's the, it's not like he's coming on here and
going like, we're losing the propaganda war, but look, see how they're full of shit.
See how all the people criticizing Israel are getting it all wrong. Like, don't get, dude, I'm losing
a property. I've done nothing but lose propaganda wars my entire life. I'm a libertarian.
You know, like I'm losing the propaganda war in a sense. I'm trying to convince everyone to
hate the government. And it's going better than it has been. But it's not.
not, you know, it's not there. But like, when I try to expose the propaganda, I could take down
what they're saying and point out all the lies, point out how we know their lives. He can't do
any of that. So you've got to come here and just assert foreign governments are influencing social
media and that's why you hate Israel. We never target civilians. We only accidentally miss and
hit them. All right. You're losing the war because you're wrong and you can't defend your
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Anti-Semitism, this vile vilification of the Jews,
took a reprieve after the Holocaust.
It took a reprieve. It took 80 years.
It wasn't fashionable to be anti-Semitic,
so you didn't say these things in polite society.
But it's come back.
It's almost like it accompanies us throughout ours.
What is that about, Mr. Prime Minister?
I think...
Because I want to stop you right there,
because in my career, which started in 1990 in Washington,
up until very recently,
recently. It was an established fact in Congress. Established fact. The Republicans and Democrats
had a default proposition favorable to Israel. Not always, not universally, but a default
proposition that began with, yes, that's not true anymore. That's less true than at any other
time I've covered Washington. Pause it. Pause it for a second. By the way, again, this is just
like the framing of this question, because it was almost kind of going to an interesting revelation
there, and then Major takes it off track. And because there's something about, okay, there's two
different claims being made here. And I just want you to focus for a moment here. Just how utterly
unhinged, bizarre, religious, and paranoid what Benjamin Netanyahu is saying is. So essentially,
right, his argument is that anti-Semitism is like this force, like this evil spirit that has always
been plaguing humanity. Why do people hate Jews? They're just possessed by this evil spirit and then
they're evil and then they, like, by the way, this is, and I'm not saying that people don't get, you know,
possessed by evil forces at times in life. I'm actually, I've grown to be more open to that view.
But anytime anyone is describing their enemies this way, it's always propaganda bullshit.
Like, it's that.
There's nothing else to it.
It's just, I don't know, this force after the, after World War II, it took an 80 year break.
But look, it's back.
Like, what?
This is just not how human beings actually operate.
Everybody just fell under the spell of hating Jews all of a sudden over the last couple
years, as we just mentioned before.
And it just happens to correlate when you started launching these aggressive, brutal.
military campaigns that are slaughtering civilians by the tens of thousands.
But then the major, he pivots to, you know, I've been doing this since 1990, and it used to be
the obvious given that both major political parties support Israel, which is a different
thing.
That's a different thing than why some dark force starts making everyone hates the Jews.
Now he made it about Congress and how they vote.
And also, that's still the same.
That has not changed at all.
What's changed is people's attitudes.
And so, sure, I'm sure you could find some more statements of congressmen
kind of sucking up to say things that they think their voters want to hear.
But as we've watched, is everybody paying even the slightest bit of attention to this
knows, and this is something you kind of can't get away from, that we have in America
this very fake two-party system
where essentially,
you're to believe that's democracy
because there's two-part.
I just think about it for a second
how actually absurd that is, right?
That we're supposed to believe
we have democracy
because we have Democrats and Republicans.
Now, if we just had one party,
everyone would look at that and go,
oh, this is one-party dictatorship.
But you see, we're not one-party dictatorship
because we have two parties, right?
It's just too crazy.
So, and then everybody, like I said, slightly paying attention to this notices that Israel started
genociding the Palestinians in 2023, did it all through 2024, and it was funded by the Biden
administration.
Then Donald Trump comes in and they continue doing it and it's funded by the Trump administration.
So it's very clear for everyone to see this war that we're fighting in Iran is a joint U.S. Israeli
war. The, like, it's very clear that both the Democrats and the Republicans support Israel,
no matter whether you have a Democrat in charge or a Republican in charge, Israel's still getting
their money. Israel's still getting their weapons. Israel's still getting resolutions vetoed
at the United Nations. Israel, like, they're getting it. So, again, in what meaningful sense
do we have democracy when supermajorities of the American people are against this war?
Majorities of the American people now oppose Israel.
And yet no one represents that point of view.
You have two parties.
Both of them represent the minority point of view on this most consequential relationship.
Anyway, people notice that.
It's very hard for them to not notice that.
So anyway, I guess the point here is that, first of all, just to the question that Major is asking,
that dynamic has not changed.
the Congress and the White House still support Israel.
They support them more than ever.
Israel, in all of their years, and Israel's done some pretty wild, horrific shit.
You know, Israel has committed many, many massacres and atrocities, and they've committed mass ethnic
cleansing campaigns, and they've had a brutal occupation going for almost 60 years now.
of the Palestinians, of the Gazans and the people in the West Bank.
But to be very clear, Israel's never done anything like they did in Gaza, in their history.
This was the worst thing that Israel's ever done by far.
And, you know, Joe Biden supported him through that, through the worst thing that they were doing.
And now Donald Trump has out Zionist Joe Biden by five.
fold or something like that.
And so like, anyway, my point
is just that Israel, while doing the worst
things it's ever done, has had full support
from the United States of America's government.
So, again, wherever you fall
on the argument, that's kind
of just a fact. So that dynamic has
not changed at all. And Netanyahu is trying
to start, is trying to start with this
ridiculous, like religious
argument that people are just possessed.
It's just an old-timey evil
spirit has risen up and taken your kids
again. And that's why young people in America
don't support Israel, and Major doesn't correct him on it.
He just changes the focus to where Congress stands or something like that.
It's unbelievable.
Imagine, try for a second to wrap your head around the concept.
Imagine an Arab leader coming to America and giving some type of answer like this.
Like, ancient spirits are possessing you, and that's why they're making your people want to fight a war with our people.
They would immediately call that, immediately, like, just laugh that out of the room.
Not when Benjamin Netanyahu does it.
All right, let's keep playing.
Anything else.
Yes, it is.
Well, these are historical cycles, which my father...
You have an historical cycle?
Yes, we are.
I mean, anti-Semitism is...
It didn't float.
Yes.
Yeah, but it flowed throughout our history.
And the reason it, you know...
But America's not a place where things like that tend to come back.
Well, they can come back.
They were there in the 1930s.
Yes.
Father Kaufland and they ebbed because of the war, but it's come back.
What is it? I think it's an interesting question of why this happens.
And I think there's a natural human tendency between people and also between people's collective groups.
It's called jealousy.
And jealousy often, you know, if somebody is very successful, you can be appreciative of them.
especially if it's a very successful and strong country,
then you temper your jealousy and you go to respect.
So these are the embers of envy?
I think it's part of it.
I don't think it explains all of it,
but I think one thing I can say is that there are many explanations
for the phenomenon, the durability of anti-Semitism over the ages.
My father was a great historian of this.
And we can have a separate discussion on it.
Dude, I mean, this is like real deal levels of sociopathy.
I mean, it is like I don't know if you've ever like dealt with a real toxic narcissistic person before.
But like that is the type of shit they would say.
I mean, I'm sorry.
I don't mean to just like get into psychoanalyzing BB Netanyahu here.
but this is like the horrible guy who's like wife left him and kids no longer talk to him
and is just that and is telling you that the problem was that they didn't appreciate his greatness
or something like that. I mean, that is why it's envy. That's what it is. You see,
it's a mix of a dark historical spiritual form that ebbs and flows, but it flows and it goes and it
comes back and it captured the minds of America, you know, and even major going, in America,
that doesn't seem to, that doesn't usually happen in America. Like, we don't just all wake up one day and
go like, dude, I'm getting an itching to do slavery again. You guys want to do that? Like, I know
that was considered like wrong for a whole lot of years, but like it used to be this dark thing
that humans did. And I don't know. I'm just getting it. Let's let's get into that again.
Let's just be medieval for a little bit. You guys want to do that. Like, what? This is just,
just makes no sense whatsoever. But they don't throw in like, also probably like they're just
jealous of us because we're so strong, we're so successful, we're so like, really?
You think more than the genocide?
You think more than the genocide that you committed for the world to see in 4K and forced
us to fund it against our wishes?
You don't think that maybe?
You think it was mostly just jealousy?
Maybe we're like, I wish I could genocide some Gazans, but I don't get to.
So I hate Benjamin Netanyahu.
Or it's just because they're so, you know, we're just so.
so in awe of Israel that it plays on our envy.
Dude, the nerve, you're our fucking welfare state, bra.
You're coming to an American, but I think they filmed this in Israel, but you're talking
to an American reporter to air on one of America's networks, not even cable networks, one of
America's networks.
Granted, that doesn't mean what it used to, but still, like, you're talking to an American
audience and you're saying we're jealous of you, you are a puny little welfare.
are stayed, who only has any relevance because we say so, because we allow it. We don't,
but our government sure does. But the idea that you would say we're somehow jealous of you,
that we're envious, that is the only, I mean, this is just the lack of self-reflection.
I mean, for you to ever, ever be in a situation where, like, everyone in a room hates your guts
and your immediate conclusion is that it must be because you're so great and they're just jealous.
This is like 16-year-old girl levels of cope.
Like, what?
And why did this rise up so much right around the time he started destroying Gaza?
All of a sudden, the jealousy of the Jewish state just got out of control right around that time.
These historical dark forces reemerged right around that time.
Ain't that? Ain't that a hell of a coincidence?
Like, what do you even say here?
What rationally describes this better?
That people were outraged by the atrocities that they could see with their own eyes?
Or this?
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Is the war with Iran over?
And if it isn't, who will decide when it is?
I think it'll accomplish a great deal, but it's not over because there's still nuclear material
enriched uranium that has to be taken out of Iran.
There is still enrichment sites that have to be dismantled.
There are still proxies that Iran supports.
They're ballistic missiles that they still want to produce.
Now we've degraded a lot of it, but all of that is still there, and there's work to be done.
How do you envision the highly enriched uranium will be removed from Iran?
You go in and you take it out.
With what?
Special forces from Israel, special forces in the United States.
Well, I'm not going to talk about military means, but what President Trump has said to me,
I want to go in there.
And I think it can be done physically.
That's not the problem.
If you have an agreement and you go in and you take it out, why not?
That's the best way.
What if there isn't an agreement?
Can it be taken out by force?
Well, you're going to ask me these questions.
I'm going to dodge them because I'm not going to talk about our military possibilities,
plans or anything of the kind.
And I'm just trying to get at how long is it going to take to achieve that aim?
I'm not going to give a timetable to it, but I'm going to say that's,
a terrifically important mission.
So, all right, there's, there are a few things I think are important to break down here.
And also, this to me was the, actually the most disgusting part of the interview on, on Major's part.
Just how, like the dereliction of duty, to be a journalist.
I mean, to sit here and have the president of the United States of America,
is in the middle of a war
that clearly was
well it's a joint effort
it is the war that the man you're interviewing
has spent his entire career publicly
trying to get our government to fight
now why you might ask why over the last
30 plus years has Netanyahu
been trying to get America
to overthrow the government in Iran
there's such a big powerful army
we're all jealous of them right
Why hasn't he done it? Okay, here's what? Because he can't. He can't do it. This, this, without America,
the idea that Israel was going to go in and topple Saddam Hussein or the Ayatollah, or even Omar Gaddafi,
or even Bashar al-Assat is all ridiculous. They didn't do it on their own. They can all, they can do these things for one reason and one reason only.
And that is that they have the most powerful nation, the most powerful military in the history of the world to do it.
for them. That's why they advocate for us to do this. Okay. So you're interviewing a guy who's been
trying to get the president into this war, trying to get every president into this war. This is on
record. This is all known. And also it's kind of known that he did get this president into the war,
that he was the chief guy who sold him. It is a joint military effort, the thing this guy's been
trying to do his entire career that he's now doing with our government. And clearly, at the very
least, it is not going good, man. And none of these war goals have been achieved and the global
economy is suffering as a result of this. And Donald Trump has himself said, I want to make a deal.
The war's over. Donald Trump's words that the war is over, we're working on making a deal.
And you have a foreign leader coming in now and dictating that in fact it's not over because
we haven't achieved every one of the pre-war goals, which are all still the goals, including the
hardest ones, like ending their support for Hezbollah, which, you know, seems like something
that might be more of a concern to the Israelis than the Americans. Is that a crazy assumption
to make that a militia in the southern part of Lebanon might be a slightly bigger concern
for, say, Israel, then the middle part of North America over here.
That might be a little bit more in their interest.
But he's insisting, no, the war has to keep going.
Has to keep going until that.
And then the other nearly impossible task is extracting their enriched uranium,
which again, well, okay, let me just make this point first.
He says that he is essentially vetoing the president saying he wants to end the war,
saying, no, no, no, we're going to continue this.
war and then insists that we extract the enriched geranium.
Now, when pushed on how the heck you do this, he goes, it'd be very easy to do if we had a deal.
Well, yeah, like, what?
Okay.
I mean, I don't know what to say.
This is on the level of like, well, okay, not on the level, a logical analogy.
Not saying these things are exactly the same.
Let's just say, like I use this example on the, on the members only episode.
Let's say I was hanging out with one of you, one of you people who are listening.
We're hanging out together and we saw John Jones, the UFC heavyweight champion across the street.
And I went, you know, I'm going to go kick John Jones ass in front of everybody.
I'm going to go beat the shit out of that guy.
And you were like, wait, well, how are you going to do that?
You know, like, how are you going to do that?
That might be a relevant question.
How are you going to do that?
And I went, well, it'd be very easy to do if we had a deal that John Jones agreed to that he's
going to let me kick his ass.
That is true.
That is, that is a, okay, fair point.
That would change things.
But then the question is, yeah, yeah, yeah, well, what if he doesn't agree to that?
Because he's clearly already not agreed to that.
Like, what is this?
And then what's the answer there?
I'm going to dodge the question.
Exactly.
So you have no answer.
Will it be U.S. troops or Israeli troops?
I'm not going to get into the military of it.
Right.
So then you have not.
Nothing. So you are vetoing the president of the United States of America, duly elected by our country.
That's who gets to decide who uses our military resources in this way, imperfect as the system is.
So you're saying, no, the war continues with no plan, with no plan for how you can do this.
You are not able, you clearly are not able to do this.
Like Israel alone trying to go get the enriched uranium. Israel is a country of nine million people.
Iran is a country of 92 million people.
Israel can't do anything to Iran.
The only question here is what we are going to do.
And, you know, for him to put this out there with nothing, then you have nothing.
Then you have, if you don't have a plan, then you have nothing.
Then it's just a wish list.
I'd like to be able to beat up John Jones.
I'd like to get all of their enriched uranium.
How are you going to do this against a resisting opponent?
You get like what have Americans?
invaded the country and will take losses in the tens or hundreds of thousands, that's a sacrifice
that Benjamin Netanyahu is willing to make, I guess. But anyway, the other point that I was going to make
that I stopped myself to finish this on was it's important to just see through all this shit
that, listen, Benjamin Netanyahu does not care about extracting the enriched uranium.
There's simply not what this is about. And I don't know. I don't know how many times
I got to say this or how many times he's got to admit this in his own words, but this is about
regime change for him. And this is what I was saying throughout the 12-day war and everyone tried to
argue, no, no, no, it wasn't about that. It was just about the enriched uranium. It was just about
hitting these targets and setting them back. And then we did that, claimed they were totally
obliterated and were right back at war with that. Oh, yeah. And with the aim, the open aim this time
of regime change. Now, of course, obviously, they got Donald Trump to agree to that, but it didn't
work out. And by all estimates now, it's just not going to. Um, and we might get into that more on
tomorrow's show, um, because there's been a whole lot of, you know, just every, essentially all the
information that's come out now is all the assessments all around are that this regime is not falling.
Like even keeping, even choking them in the straight of our moves, all this stuff that they're not
falling. Our own intelligence is saying that now openly. And, you know, so,
Now the thing is, what Benjamin Netanyahu knows, though, is that if you commit to all these war goals, right, if you commit to saying, no, you have to have all the war goals you had at the very beginning of the war, none of which have been achieved, by saying you have to have all, he keeps the war going.
He keeps the war going.
He keeps the thing escalating.
And then he views there's a chance that the regime implodes, which it's a certain point, I guess they would.
And so this is the game Benjamin Netanyahu's playing, and you're a journalist, and you sit here and just let him play it.
No moment of going like, wait a minute, sir, you are advocating for dragging our country into a war, and you don't even have a plan for how this would possibly work out because he doesn't, because his plan is just escalate the thing enough and the regime collapses eventually.
That's the end goal.
And so that's what he's trying to do.
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Frequently misattributed to Winston Churchill. History is written by the victim.
He didn't say it. Lots of people said it. He didn't say it.
No, he said, I don't worry about it because I'll write it myself.
But that idea that victors write the history, what will the history, the state of Israel,
will write about this conflict with Iran? And when will you know it's been victorious?
I think we already achieved great things. Remember, Iran was surrounded us with a noose
of death of simultaneous invasions from Gaza, from Hamas, and from Lebanon by Hezbollah.
We were going to be rocketed and pelleted with ballistic missiles that would destroy our cities.
Iran would have atomic weapons to destroy us. We smashed the terror axis. It's not finished.
We have still work to do. But it's clear that Israel has emerged as the most
powerful country in the Middle East. We have a partnership with the U.S. that is second to none.
The National Security Memorandum that was issued a few months ago described Israel as the
model ally, not the ally, the model ally of the United States. So we've changed our position
from being on the verge of being exterminated, being annihilated, to a position where we
knocked back the annihilators and become a very forceful element, a very forceful country in the
Middle East. Now, all power is relative. You know that. All power is relative. So you're never,
Iran hasn't disappeared. Hasbalah hasn't disappeared. Hamas hasn't disappeared. But there are,
in many ways, in some cases, a shadow of their former selves, there certainly don't threaten us now
with annihilation. They try to kill our people. They occasionally succeed. But there's no question
that the relative power of Israel has changed. And, you know, that's been our situation. When we started
out, we were 600,000 people on the beach here, and we were attacked by seven Arab armies,
and we survived by the skin of our teeth. And as we got stronger, we made peace with the Arab
states, I myself, along with President Trump, we made the Abraham Accords peace with four Arab
countries. I now see the possibility of the expansion of those agreements and the expansion
and the deepening of the agreements we do have to alliances with Arab states of the kind that
we never even dreamed of. And that's the result of the change in the relative power of Israel.
The fact that we face down this neighborhood bully, this killer regime in Iran,
that's brought quite a few of the Arab countries closer together with Israel.
And that's good for peace.
And it's interesting you mentioned that, Mr. Prime Minister, because I just read it.
So let's just pause it.
Oh, sorry, that's the end of the clip.
Was that the last one, Natalie, or is there one more?
Let me say.
Okay, cool.
Let me know.
You know, it's just, it's really something to hear Benjamin Netanyahu spin his line of
bullshit about, you know, how Israel was on the brink of total annihilation, but now they're strong.
You know, Israel has, he says, we can, essentially, this is part of the Netanyahu doctrine
that he's just like slipping in there.
That it's like, yeah, this was the whole thing, man.
It's all like what it really comes down to is just that like, again, like I said before, even if you, you go back to 1996, the clean break and Benjamin and Netanyahu wrote a book called Fighting Terrorism. I think it might have been in 95 when he wrote fighting terrorism. So a book worth reading, very easy read, very quick, pretty stupid book. But this whole kind of greater Israel clean break, seven countries and five years strategy, right?
has always been, again, like I said, the Israel, let's say in the 1990s,
the idea that the Israel government of 1996 was going to go topple Saddam Hussein's
government.
Like, I mean, they talk about it as if there's a possibility that they could do it.
But it's clearly all about getting the U.S. to do it for them.
And in effect, when it ends up happening, that's always what it is, is getting the U.S. to do it
with them.
sometimes Israel will help out in some covert way, maybe even help out with some air power,
but they ain't sending troops in.
And they're not doing any of this themselves.
But they are playing a very large role in getting America to do a lot of these things.
Iraq, Libya, Syria, you know, and now around.
And this is his thing.
Yeah, listen, if we take out the killer regimes, as he calls them, then we can live in peace.
Now, of course, this whole plan also relies on a lot of American bribes.
You know, like the Abraham agreement was basically bribing all these countries with U.S. taxpayer money.
Or, you know, military equipment, but same difference, right?
That was purchased with U.S. taxpayer money.
So we bribe all these countries.
You know, we have to pay Egypt like $3 billion a year and Jordan billions of dollars every year.
and Saudi Arabia and UAE and all these countries, Qatar,
we have to, like, bribe all these countries to be friendly with Israel,
and then we have to overthrow all the killer regimes,
and then we can have peace.
This is Netanyahu's pitch, you know,
that this is essentially what we can do,
and you can't even imagine,
and we're on the verge of everything being so great,
and then we're going to have a bigger round of the Abraham Accords,
which, by the way, if you remember the Abraham Accords,
that changed life for Americans.
right? You remember how different your life was before the Abraham Accords and then after the Abraham Accords?
I mean, I don't even know what the pitch is supposed to be for us here. But the thing about it is this, right?
Number one, the American taxpayer doesn't wish to pay for any of this. We don't wish to bribe all of these other countries and then spend, you know, the trillions of dollars and thousands of lives of our soldiers on these wars.
We didn't wish to do any of this. Also, we were never really informed why we were doing it.
And so there's this inherent problem right there, which is that your plan ends up just costing my
country, well, it costs trillions of dollars. So this is, yeah, doesn't work so good for us. Now does it?
But then, you know, one might also point out that like, so first of all, you're not entitled to a
American money and military support.
And this country overwhelmingly doesn't want to give it to you anymore.
And so there's that element.
But then also, you know, if you're going to say, like in your whole plan here, that,
as he refers to it, we're standing up to the bully, this killer government of Iran,
well, you know, a grok, who's killed more people for the government of Israel or the government
of Iran?
even you could even have your bullshit 40,000 number of innocent people that Iran killed like
it's not even close not even close and if you want to add up all these wars that have been
necessary for this Netanyahu doctrine right to stand up to all the killer regimes and include
the war in Iraq and the war in Libya and Syria and all this all the all the U.S. wars like you know
we're kind of a killer regime you're the killer regime that's just those are just the facts like
you're using a word, you're talking about killing, except the U.S. and Israel government kill far more
people. So that's a little bit of a problem there. And then I guess the other thing I have,
that's a little bit of an issue, is that you say, then we can have peace. Now, just to be very
clear, as some people maybe have seen this video, right? There's Netanyahu when he went by a
different name. I can't remember his old name. But there's an old video of him when he was like,
I don't know, like 25 or something like that. And he always looked old. He looked like a 40-year-old
when he was 25. But there's this video of him, I think he's in his 20s, maybe his 30s.
And he goes, he's quoted as saying, it's almost the same line as what he says about Iraq.
He goes, if the Soviet Union falls, I guarantee you there will be positive reverberations around
the region.
Back then, he was trying to say that the PLO is only a, so the Palestinian liberation
like the, what he was saying essentially was that the Arab terrorism that we're dealing
with here is a result of them being proxies of the Soviet Union.
Like they're the Soviet unions guys here.
Now, it is true that they did some business with the Soviet Union, but why was Benjamin Netanyahu
framing it that way?
He was trying to say, hey, America, your fight is all.
fight. This is their, this is, you know what I mean? Like, this is, this is your fight too,
because it's, this was in the middle of the Cold War. So like, yo, this is a dynamic between
the Soviet Union and you. So anyway, he's on record being like, yo, be on, be in this fight
with us. And if the Soviet Union falls, positive reverberations will, will sweep the region.
Of course, he, he guaranteed that if Saddam Hussein fell, positive reverberations would sweep
the region, like every single what. So in other words, he's sitting here saying, you're the killer
regimes, we got to take you out and then we can have peace.
But this plan that Benjamin Netanyahu has been working on since the mid-1990s has resulted
in the war in Iraq, the war in Libya, the war in Syria, the destruction of Gaza, the war in Iran,
the war on South Lebanon, massive bombing campaigns in Yemen.
Like, it's been permanent war.
So fucking forgive me if I don't trust that the guy who's planned,
has been permanent militarism, permanent war. Look at Israel itself. We have a nation of Israel.
That is a permanent military state. Now, they may say it has to be that way because we're a tiny
little state in the middle of this big Arab world, and maybe that's the case. But this is the
perspective of somebody who has a permanent military state, permanent militarism,
a mass surveillance state, always in a state of war. Everybody is drafted. Everybody must serve
in the IDF. Well, I guess not the religious Jews, but everyone else, including women, including
their girls, have to all go do training in the IDF. And like, okay, even if you want to say, hey,
we're this tiny little country in the Middle East and that's the way it's got to be. Okay,
well, we're the United States of fucking America. And we're supposed to be a free country,
not a permanent militarism country. And because of this plan, it's transformed my country into that.
maybe this and not ancient dark forces have something to do with why people aren't supporting Israel
anymore. This plan, and I'm not letting my government off the hook or saying that it's all Israel's
fault or anything like that. I first and foremost, as anyone who listens to this show knows,
I first and foremost blame the presidents of the United States of America.
Now, people who argue with me try to, there's a common like gotcha. Well, they'll ask me,
They're like, which president do you like, Dave?
Just give me the one you like.
And then I got to go, yeah, no, I hate them all.
Okay, fine.
But listen, it's their responsibility.
They were elected by the American people.
Every last one of them have signed off on this.
But my country, like I grew up in America in the 1980s,
and that country doesn't fucking exist anymore.
And it was a very free country compared to today's country in many ways.
And one of them was that we'd,
didn't have this, we didn't live under mass surveillance. We didn't live under permanent militarism
and constant forever wars. Don't get me wrong, we were an empire, there were a lot of problems
already in the 1980s, and the government had done a lot of bad stuff. But this has transformed
it, and it was the global war on terrorism that did it. And so Benjamin Netanyahu, this guy
whose plan has been to, we should both be countries that are permanent military states,
permanent mass surveillance states, and that comes with all the liberty for its citizens that you might
expect when you live under a permanent military state and fight wars constantly.
Like, I'm sorry. You can't sit here and come to me and say, I have a plan to deal with these
killer governments and then eventually we'll bring peace. What you bring is a loss of liberty
and forever war. And we want no part of it. So, you know, he can sit here and say he's not for
censorship. But here's the thing. It's kind of like Donald Trump saying he's not for, you know,
escalating the war or something like that. It's like, yeah, but kind of what choice do you have now?
That's the thing we're all wondering. You know, what choice do you have? Because you're,
sitting here and you're recognizing at least that the problem exists. You're going, yeah, we're
getting destroyed on social media. We're getting destroyed by the podcasters and all these people.
But then you can't diagnose the problem at all. You have to just pretend it's for every other reason
other than the obvious. So what are you going to do? You know, what are you going to do here?
Because you can't win the debate. You can't win the debate with this nonsense. And that's why I
think the only thing they can do is try to shut us up in one way or the other. And we'll say
let's see him try, I guess.
I don't know.
What else can we do?
I'm not going to shut up voluntarily.
So, all right, that's today's show.
Thank you guys very much for tuning in.
I will catch you next time.
Peace.
