Part Of The Problem - The Funeral of Ben Shapiro

Episode Date: June 19, 2025

Dave Smith brings you the latest in politics! On this episode of Part Of The Problem, Dave discusses Ben Shapiro finally saying his name on his podcast, his takes on Dave's assertion that Tru...mp should be impeached, and more.Support Our Sponsors:Blackout Coffee - https://www.blackoutcoffee.com/problemProlon - https://prolonlife.com/potpSheath - https://sheathunderwear.com use promo code PROBLEM20Part Of The Problem is available for early pre-release at https://partoftheproblem.com as well as an exclusive episode on Thursday!ROB LIVE DATES HERE:PORCH Tour: www.porchtour.comVegas: https://www.wiseguyscomedy.com/nevada/las-vegas/arts-district/e/robbie-bernsteinHouston Texas: https://www.eventbrite.com/e/robbie-the-fire-and-friends-tickets-1335225899609Find Run Your Mouth here:YouTube - http://youtube.com/@RunYourMouthiTunes - https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/run-your-mouth-podcast/id1211469807Spotify - https://open.spotify.com/show/4ka50RAKTxFTxbtyPP8AHmFollow the show on social media:X:http://x.com/ComicDaveSmithhttp://x.com/RobbieTheFireInstagram:http://instagram.com/theproblemdavesmithhttp://instagram.com/robbiethefire#libertarianSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Hello, hello, hello. What's up everybody? Welcome to a brand new episode of Part of the Problem. I am Dave Smith, Roland Solo for this episode, but it's going to be a fun one. Okay, so a couple points of business before we get into today's show. Number one, this weekend, Friday and Saturday night, I will be at the Dojo of Comedy right here in New Jersey. If you're in the New York, New Jersey area,
Starting point is 00:00:30 come on out to the shows. There are still some tickets available. I don't perform in New Jersey or New York area that much these days. I'm always on the road or just podcasting. So if you can, come on out, come on out. We're gonna hang out. I'm gonna take pictures afterward and stuff.
Starting point is 00:00:44 So come on out, meet me, come see're going to hang out. I'm going to take pictures afterward and stuff. So come on out, meet me, come see some comedy. It's going to be a fun time. I got Scott Chaplin and Louis J. Gomez on the show with me. So really looking forward to this weekend. My favorite way to do comedy is when I get to sleep in my own bed at night. So this is a big, big win for me. The other piece of news is that I, uh, I just debated Constantine Kassin on the Pierce Morgan show
Starting point is 00:01:09 uncensored and uh, we just finished, literally just got off there and jumped on here. That's why we're a little bit late starting the show. So that should be out either later today or tomorrow. And then tonight I'm recording another debate for zero hedge that I believe is coming out tomorrow. Of course, both the debates are on the topic of war and around. Um, okay. So this is a big day. There's a big day for part of the problem. It's a big day for this show. Um,
Starting point is 00:01:38 sometimes, you know, you're searching for something for years and years, and then you finally get it. And it really, you know, sometimes it's not as rewarding once you get it. Sometimes it's even more rewarding without further ado let's go to Ben Shapiro Dave Smith another one of these right he came out yesterday that Trump should be impeached pause it already said my name finally after all these years Ben Shapiro's made so many videos going at me.
Starting point is 00:02:06 It is never once mentioned by name. And now finally, here we are. Dave Smith. I have officially made it the, uh, the most influential conservative voice in America. Ben Shapiro finally learned the name. It really means a lot to me, Ben. I appreciate it. Thank you so much. I know it took a lot of effort. It took a lot of effort to memorize a name like Dave. It's tricky. Obviously it took all of us some time. I have family members who still can't remember Dave Smith. Very tricky.
Starting point is 00:02:33 I understand. Finally, Ben Shapiro had the balls to utter my name into the universe. However, there is a problem with that Ben, because now I'm going to destroy you. Welcome to the funeral of Ben Shapiro, everybody. Here, let's keep playing. Full-on impeached for the crime of for the crime of defenestrating one of the worst regimes on the planet without firing a shot. That's the big mistake, according to now I will say, Dave Smith, I will say he was consistent a while ago, then he was inconsistent,
Starting point is 00:03:03 then he was consistent again. So if you go back a couple of years, he was calling for Donald Trump to be impeached, then he voted for Donald Trump, apparently. Pause it. Whoa, whoa, whoa, wait a minute. So now not only do you know my name, you're familiar with my history, you're familiar with where I was years ago and where I am today. And then in all those videos, you just referred to me as the comedian, Tucker Carlson's guest, Joe Rogan's guest, but you know where I stood on the issues years ago?
Starting point is 00:03:30 Jesus man. What is it? Was that, it was that hard to remember Dave Smith? Well, listen, Hey, I don't want to beat you up over old stuff. We got here and you know the name now. Now, of course, he's saying that I was arguing that Donald Trump should be impeached for Defending this evil regime without firing a single shot No What I said is that Donald Trump should be impeached and removed for getting the United States of America Into yet another war in the Middle East which was his entire mandate not to do and I know for Ben Shapiro logic
Starting point is 00:04:07 He'll say America's not at war. That's that's right. We're you know what? The thing is remember how Iran was guilty of of attacking Israel on October 7th Ben Shapiro Remember that because Hamas is their proxy. Well our proxy Israel just bombed the crap out of Iran with our bombs Well, we gave them diplomatic cover and then take out the missiles headed back in their directions So yeah, I'd consider that taking us into a war in the Middle East and don't tell me anything about how Iran is the most brutal Evil regime please as the government of Israel is slaughtered far more innocent people Please as the government of Israel is slaughtered far more innocent people
Starting point is 00:04:51 Destroyed the lives of far more innocent people than Iran could ever dream to not that they wouldn't they're not the best guys They just don't have the opportunity and Israel does But you know what Ben Shapiro makes a point he criticizes me for my lack of consistency imagine Imagine a world where Ben Shapiro can look at me and say, I was inconsistent. By the way, here, Natalie, do we have that tweet? Let's pull this. This hasn't been deleted. Imagine making this argument when you still have this tweet out and have not deleted it. Oh, here. Okay. Let's see what he said. Shapiro. I will never know hold on. Let's pull up the his words at the top I
Starting point is 00:05:32 Will never vote for Donald Trump. Here's why Ben Shapiro I stand against the establishment that sowed the seeds of trumpism I stand against the Republican Party that insists that victory matters more than principle because victory without principle isn't just meaningless It's counterproductive to my belief system. Hashtag never Trump. Who do you, who do you think you're fooling Ben Shapiro? You were a never Trump or who came around and supported Donald Trump. You're going to talk to me about my, it, my inconsistency because I criticized, I've been the same on the issues the entire time.
Starting point is 00:06:09 The only thing you could claim inconsistent is that like I voted for a guy and then said, Oh man, I probably shouldn't have done that. Okay. Fine. I didn't, I didn't change my principles. Now did I? Right. I thought for you, for you not supporting Donald Trump was all about principles. Okay. And then, Oh, it I guess you never really had those principles. You talked to me about a lack of consistency. You are the biggest hypocrite in the United States of America. You rose to prominence, opposing identity politics as a proud Zionist.
Starting point is 00:06:41 Your entire existence is a contradiction. The nerve, the nerve of Ben Shapiro challenged me on my consistency. Does he not know? Okay, he's learned my name. Now the next step is to learn my nickname. My nickname is the most consistent motherfucker you know, Ben Shapiro. All right, let's go back to the video. Let's go back to hear what Benny Boy's got to say. And then he's calling for Donald Trump to be impeached again. So here he is back to being captain.
Starting point is 00:07:11 But don't worry, he too is apparently America first means Iran must have a nuclear weapon and America can do nothing. And if you disagree with that, then you are not America first. You know, they're just some guy like President Trump who's in. I mean, come on. This is why Ben Shapiro is falling apart and losing all of his influence and just constantly You know, they're just some guy like President Trump who's in an. I mean, come on. This is why Ben Shapiro is falling apart and losing all of his influence and just constantly being mocked.
Starting point is 00:07:29 He even has his top guys at Daily Wire are basically going against him as much as they're allowed to. Being America first means that Iran must be allowed to have a nuclear weapon. Again, it's like arguing being being anti-war means you're gonna let saddam hussein have a nuclear weapon Iran does not have a nuclear weapon All of our intelligence backs this up Literally since 2007 the cia has been saying they don't have a nuke and they're not pursuing a nuke this year The director of national intelligence released the annual threat report
Starting point is 00:08:05 two months ago. What did she find? Iran does not have a nuclear weapon and they are not pursuing a nuclear weapon. The entire international community has conceded the same thing. They don't have nuke. This is a figment of your imagination or otherwise known as a pretense for a regime change war, which the Israelis and the neo conservatives have openly admitted for 30 years has been their goal, overthrowing the Iranian regime. Tell me something, uh, Ben Shapiro, when Netanyahu said in 1992 that Iran was one to three years away from a nuke.
Starting point is 00:08:43 And then when he said they were one to three years away from a nuke and then when he said they were one to three years away from a nuke Again and again and again and again for 30 years 35 years, whatever the math on that is 33 34 years When he when he was saying that was he mistaken? Was he wrong? Or was he trying to lie my country into another war just like he did with Iraq and Libya and Syria? Which one do you think? See, I tend to think it's the latter. No,
Starting point is 00:09:13 America first doesn't mean around this non-existent around gets nuclear weapons that you just make up. Like every goddamn war is sold on these bullshit lies. America first means we don't go to war on behalf of other countries. But you wouldn't know about that because you're not America first, as we all know you're Israel first. Which is fine. Just be that. At least admit it. See, being America first to me means that I don't celebrate when Bashar al-assad is ousted in Syria and the Amir of al-qaeda is put into power I
Starting point is 00:09:54 Don't celebrate because ooh, we broke up the Shiite crescent and now Iran can't move weapons into Hezbollah That because that's Israel's problem. I'm an American, so my beef is with Al Qaeda because they hit us on 9-11 and killed thousands of my fellow countrymen. To me, I would say, yeah, that's what America first means. Yeah, I would say that. And I'm quite happy to take that position. I'm sorry.
Starting point is 00:10:22 Like it's just unbelievable. There's all these people out there. Iran is the number one sponsor of terrorism. What terrorism exactly? Because terrorism is a big problem. You know, like here in the West, we've had major problems with Al Qaeda and ISIS. Does Iran support Al Qaeda and ISIS? Oh no, that's right. They fight wars against them. They fight wars against them. But see Ben Shapiro celebrates when Bashar al-Assad falls because now Hezbollah won't get weapons anymore. Hey, someone do a quick Google search for me.
Starting point is 00:10:58 When was the last time Hezbollah attacked the United States of America? Hmm. That's right. Yet you see Hezbollah is a real threat. They are a real threat, or at least they were until they were taken out. Now, what is that threat? Oh yeah, they're a threat to Israel's ability to occupy southern Lebanon because they kicked their pussy asses out of there. Unbelievable. What does America First mean? You're right, Ben Shapiro. America First means fighting wars on behalf of Israel. Okay, you take that line and we'll see who wins this argument with the people. Let's keep playing.
Starting point is 00:11:34 Agree with that, then you are not America First. You know, then there's just some guy like President Trump who's an anonymous rando. I mean, what an impotent leader to be sitting there talking about coming back to the negotiating table. It's like sitting after Pearl Harbor and telling FDR, now's the time to go negotiate with the Japanese. Negotiations are over now. The time for negotiations was before this.
Starting point is 00:12:00 And so, yeah, Donald Trump looks and man, I supported him this last year. I apologize for doing so. It was a bad calculation at the time. It seemed like the right one. But he should be impeached and removed for this one. OK, and then just to follow that up, Dave Smith went on Twitter and then he called the president of the United States, quote, the most impotent of a leader imaginable.
Starting point is 00:12:21 He's allowing one side of a war who clearly wants to drag us into lie about our involvement while not correcting the record. Trump has betrayed Magda and every principle of America first. He is no longer worthy of any of our support. He probably never was, as Dave Smith. So just going to point out once again, these are the people who believe they should be in control of Magda. Do you agree with that?
Starting point is 00:12:37 Seventy seven million Americans voted for Donald Trump. Some of us campaigned for Donald Trump. Some of us gave money to Donald Trump. I am one of those people. And you know what I voted for this. And you know, who represents that view? Yeah, of course you did Ben Shapiro. No one's disagreeing with that Ben Shapiro. Obviously you voted for listen, how pathetic is this? How pathetic is this is that Ben Shapiro
Starting point is 00:13:03 thinks that this is and look, I get what he's doing here. I think you all probably do too, right? Is that Ben Shapiro thinks that this is, and look, I get what he's doing here. I think you all probably do too, right? Is that he knows it's Donald Trump and he knows I'm criticizing Donald Trump. So now he can come out and just be like, I'm on Trump's side against these guys like Dave C audience. Aren't you with me? That's the only, the first time he mentions my name is when he thinks he can use Trump against me. Again, the problem is that Ben Shapiro, you were a never Trump are on principle, right? I never said I was pro Trump on anybody. I just said, I don't know. All things considered, I think we're better off with him than we are with Kamala
Starting point is 00:13:39 Harris. So let's, let's push for that. That's it. My principles have not wavered on this thing. Look, the idea that, yes, obviously Ben Shapiro, you voted for this. Yes, you did. You know, by the way, there was some recent polling that just came out today. Did you know there's not one demographic of Americans that support war with Iran? Not one, not blacks, not whites not whites not Latinos not senior citizens not Gen Z gen X millennial not one demographic supports war with Iran which we are already in and Dangerously close to major escalations right now. So you could sit here and say oh these guys think they should be in charge of MAGA
Starting point is 00:14:23 Is that really what you want? I don't know Ben Shapiro fighting wars on behalf of Israel is an America first. So yeah, that's what I want. I want a president who while everyone all of his supporters were bragging about how there were no new wars under his watch the first time. That's what I'd like. I'd like to not get involved in more wars, especially ones based off bullshit lies by people like you who have pushed all the lives for all of these disastrous wars. Ben Shapiro. I mean, come on. The guy doesn't, you know, the thing about it is is that he doesn't believe in anything other than the
Starting point is 00:15:03 cause of Israel. It's the only thing he actually believes in. And then Ben Shapiro, you know, he was tweeting that, what was it that, um, his old tweet about how Arabs like to play in mud and blow stuff up. And then he went on to apologize for that kind of inconsistent, if you ask me. But what did he really mean? Did he mean the apology? Nah, I don't think he did. I think he meant it the first time when he said it, you know, there's a guy who won't even tell you what he really thinks because he's trying to trick you into supporting a policy that he knows if he actually told you what he wanted, you would never support him.
Starting point is 00:15:39 That's who Ben Shapiro is. Let me tell you something. I remember Ben Shapiro, the first time Ben Shapiro ever came on my radar was in 2012 when Ron Paul was running for president and he attacked him in the most vicious way. The most vicious way. The guy who was against all of the terror wars from the very beginning. The guy who was against the Patriot Act from the very beginning. The guy who got everything right while Ben Shapiro got everything wrong, he called him an anti-Semite and a racist
Starting point is 00:16:08 and a loon and all these things. Never went back and apologized, never corrected the record. That's who this guy is. There, let's keep playing. And you know what I voted for? This. And you know who represents that view? The President of the United States, who on the afternoon of June 17th
Starting point is 00:16:30 put out on Truth Social the following statement, all capital letters, unconditional surrender. Exclamation point. So is that not America first or it wasn't America first when America asked for the unconditional surrender of Japan, it wasn't America first when America asked for the unconditional surrender of Japan? It wasn't America first on America sought to end. I mean, how pathetic, how pathetic is that? Oh, okay. So you're bragging on one hand that he's decapitated Iran without firing a single shot and then also boasting that he's demanding
Starting point is 00:17:05 unconditional surrender Okay, let me if you want to argue that demanding unconditional surrender from Japan was America first Somehow that anybody who's familiar with the history of the term America first think about the inversion of language here That was America first demanding an unconditional surrender from japan by the way against the wishes of Five-star general dwight d eisenhower who didn't want us to drop the nukes thought it would be horrifically inhumane and completely unnecessary And that japan was willing to negotiate a surrender anyway, that's just a five-star general though. I mean, what does he know next up ben shapiro? Um, but so that's it so we're demanding an unconditional surrender. Well, one thing I would, I'd say that demanding an unconditional surrender from Japan and now demanding
Starting point is 00:17:56 an unconditional surrender from Iran. Well, does seem to imply that America's at war. Now, doesn't it? Usually, parties who aren't at war don't demand unconditional surrenders from the other. By the way, you know, like there's so much here, that it's just so ridiculous, the war propaganda, because you have to understand, right? Like in the worldview of the Warhawks,
Starting point is 00:18:24 this is just like World War II.ks, this is just like world war two Every single war is just like world war two, but it's nothing like the wars in the last 25 years. You understand that right? Going to war with iran has very little in common with iraq and afghanistan and libya and syria and somalia and yemen or niger or You know pakistan is very little in common with that, but it's just like World War II. You see that? There's a slight difference, a couple, I would say. I mean, this isn't the type of thing that will ever stop Ben Shapiro from supporting a war,
Starting point is 00:18:56 but Japan attacked us. That was a big part of the calculation before we demanded that unconditional surrender now, wasn't it? Like forget even getting into the stuff about how FDR knew that Pearl Harbor was common and probably kind of lured them into it. Forget all of that for a second. They attacked us.
Starting point is 00:19:13 They attacked us and killed Americans. Okay. Like Iran has not, Iran has not attacked the United States of America. Neither is Hezbollah or Hamas or the Houthis. If they've done anything, it's been when America's intervened in their the United States of America, neither as Hezbollah or Hamas or the Houthis. If they've done anything, it's been when America's intervened in their part of the world on behalf of Israel. But yes, of course, because, but even if you were going to argue, so because in Ben Shapiro's mind, um, you know, uh,
Starting point is 00:19:40 world war two was America first, by the way, just to be clear, so everybody knows Back in that tweet that we pulled up from 2016 When ben shapiro was a never trump and said that donald trump represented the biggest threat to the united states of america And was supporting ted cruz for that all the way through the primaries and back then when america first started being used as a slogan Ben shapiro opposed it because he said it was anti-Semitic. But tell me about my inconsistency. Ben Shapiro said that America first was an anti-Semitic term
Starting point is 00:20:13 because it's the term that was used by people who didn't wanna fight world war II. And as we all know, that means you're pro-Holocaust and hate the Jews. If you were at the time opposed to what became the biggest bloodbath in human history The worst thing that's ever happened in the history of the world if you were against that well, that just means you hate Jews But now he's trying to weaponize the term America first to point out that what?
Starting point is 00:20:37 That that what that actually going to war with Iran is America first Is that what it means? America first means another catastrophic war in the middle East against a country who poses absolutely no threat to us. Okay. Good luck with that one. Ben Shapiro. All right guys, let's take a moment and thank our sponsor for today's show, which is Prolon. Forget everything you think you know about fasting. Prolon by El Nutra is the only patented fasting
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Starting point is 00:22:07 That's P R O L O N L I F E dot com slash P O T P for this special offer. Prolonlife.com slash P O T P for 15% off their five day nutrition program. All right, let's get back into the show. Let's keep playing. And. The Gulf War by pushing Saddam Hussein out of Kuwait. It wasn't America first when President Trump hit Qasem Soleimani because he self appointed pause, mag up, I'm sorry, pause it and
Starting point is 00:22:38 rewind it just a little bit there, Natalie, I apologize, but it's that we're going to have to get back to the other point. Did he just use the Gulf war as an example of an America first policy? Let me, I'm actually blown away by this. This is further, by the way, this is further than I made it in the video. I haven't seen these arguments yet. We're all doing this together in real time. I saw that he mentioned my name and I went, well, I know what I'm doing on the show today.
Starting point is 00:23:07 And then listen for like 30 more seconds. And I was like, oh, this is dumber than I thought. But I did not know this was coming. The Gulf War was America first. So let me get this straight. Saddam Hussein invades Kuwait over a slant drilling dispute over debt leftover from his war against Iran in which he used chemical weapons against the Iranian people and the US backed him in that war actually backed both sides of that war if you want to really get the details right but you know about that now don't you Ben Shapiro? So he invades with a wink and a nod by the way, from the United States of America invades Kuwait. We go in to fight on behalf of Kuwait to liberate the democracy of Kuwait.
Starting point is 00:24:03 What's the, they're, they're a mirror represented the will of the people or something like that? But you're going to, what, that was America first? Like, listen, I know I actually mentioned this recently on the show, but it's almost like, did Ben Shapiro just revert back to a 1992 talking point? Because, you know, the talking point after the Gulf War was that, oh, this was so successful and so great and we took no Casualties and our boys didn't even get injured It didn't cost us that much money and the world is better
Starting point is 00:24:32 You know the global order is better with Saddam not in Kuwait. That was the talking point in 1992 The problem is that we were bogged down in Iraq for the next 30 years The problem is that we were bogged down in Iraq for the next 30 years. So you don't get to brag about that anymore. That was what popped off the whole beef with Saddam Hussein that led to Bill Clinton's bombing campaigns and sanctions campaigns. And then of course, ultimately, uh, George W. Bush ended up invading and overthrowing Saddam. And then we spent the next 20 years doing this regime change insanity.
Starting point is 00:25:06 Something in the neighborhood of a million people died, something I think like 15 million people were displaced and it cost America about $2 trillion. So yeah, I would say that was in America first. I am stunned that Ben Shapiro, like the World War Two example, I understand that's what these hacks always go to. But the Gulf War. OK, all right, let's keep playing. The Gulf War, by pushing Saddam Hussein out of Kuwait.
Starting point is 00:25:39 It wasn't America first when President Trump hit Qasem Soleimani because these self appointed megaointed Magga priests get to decide not the president of the United States Well, Donald Trump had one more comments about Tucker Carlson who's asked specifically about Tucker's take He said, you know what? Maybe you should get a TV network and then talk and then maybe be Yeah, let me pause it one second, but try to try to pull back because I want to respond to this Tucker part as well Listen this is so bizarre, but like, I he's saying that people like me, yes, killing Soleimani was a terrible decision and it really risked a further
Starting point is 00:26:16 conflict with Iran. It was a terrible decision to take him out and it didn't do anything to degrade Iran's capability. By the way, the only thing, it's funny by the way, isn't it? I should just mention this. Isn't it funny that Ben Shapiro, when he's trying to battle me, right? Like he's trying to battle an anti-war guy who is criticizing the president for leading us into a war. Now, just to be clear, when Donald trump was running for president the first time and was saying to jeb bush Your brother lied us into a war in iraq. That was a big fat mistake. We shouldn't do that anymore when when You know, oh, that's when ben shapiro's never trump
Starting point is 00:27:01 That's when ben shapiro's like screw this guy. I have my principles and I'll never cave on my principles. But now because I'm consistent and actually have principles and I'm criticized, now he's taking me on say, this guy's claiming to speak for MAGA for some, I never claimed to speak for MAGA dude. I don't even claim to speak for the libertarians. Have you, have you met the libertarians? No one speaks for them. I don't speak for anyone. I speak for myself. I speak for, um, um,
Starting point is 00:27:27 people who choose to agree with me, I suppose, but I'm not claiming to speak for MAGA. I'm just, I know it's foreign to you Ben cause you write about having principles, but this is what having principles actually means. I oppose this. And so I'm speaking out against it and I'm trying to persuade others that I'm correct and that they should oppose it as well. That's not me hijacking MAGA, but isn't it interesting in this moment, when Ben Shapiro finally works up the courage to utter my name and he wants to
Starting point is 00:27:54 take me on again, the examples we get are world war two and the Persian Gulf war. Those are the examples that he'll give now, or excuse me, the Gulf War. Now, why is it we've had some much more recent wars that Ben Shapiro supported. Why didn't he bring up any of those? Well, that's a mystery. I mean, I might, I might scratch right through my hair into my brain trying to figure out why it would be that Ben Shapiro wouldn't use examples of more recent wars that he was a cheerleader for.
Starting point is 00:28:31 Oh, oh yeah, that's right. Because they were all unmitigated disasters where millions of people died and trillions of dollars were wasted. You know what's not America first, Ben Shapiro is spending eight trillion dollars on regime change wars It's not America first when we're sitting here with our bravest young men from the last generation with their limbs blown off Swallowing pistols by the tens of thousands. Yeah, I wouldn't consider that America first, but tell me again how it's just like world war two All right, let's get into the Tucker Carlson stuff. Not the President of the United States?
Starting point is 00:29:10 Well, Donald Trump had one more comment about Tucker Carlson, who's asked specifically about Tucker's take. He said, you know what? Maybe you should get a TV network and then talk, and then maybe people listen. I don't know what Tucker Carlson is saying. Let him go get a television network and say it so that people listen. Thank you. All right, we'll go back to that in a second.
Starting point is 00:29:31 But let me, I mean, it's so funny. It's so transparent. Ben Shapiro is so transparently dishonest. And to a man, look, I mean, what's going on here? By the way, of all the terror wars This is the most blatant because you had to be paying attention To know that Iraq was that we fought the war in Iraq on behalf of Israel You had to be paying attention to know that like overthrowing Momar Qaddafi or overthrowing
Starting point is 00:30:00 Bashar al-assad That that you know You had to be paying attention and reading stuff to know that that was all because Israel had been pushing America into those wars. But if you're paying attention at all, you know this is a war for Israel. Okay? Like Israel's even the one saying they sold weapons to the people who did October 7th and they were selling weapons to Hezbollah and the Houthi like
Starting point is 00:30:26 Israel's the one launching the strikes to begin with We'll see that may not be true by the end of this podcast, but we'll see but so what's going on here? Tucker Carlson is opposing America fighting a war on Israel's behalf and that's why Ben Shapiro must attack him Right. Isn't that just so transparently obvious that Ben Shapiro and Tucker Carlson were cool they did shows together they did lots of stuff it wasn't until Ben Shapiro excuse me until Tucker Carlson became critical of America funding and arming Israel's destruction of Gaza and now fighting more wars on behalf of Israel that was the bridge too far
Starting point is 00:31:05 And so now Ben Shapiro is gonna use whatever he can to get Tucker Carlson now He knows he doesn't have the popular support He knows his position doesn't have the popular support But there's one guy who does have a lot of popular support and that's Donald Trump So now this never Trumper will try to weaponize Donald Trump Against me and against Tucker Carlson in the most pathetic way listen Listen, I know a lot of people listen to the show supported Donald Trump, you know I threw my support behind him in the last election too, but like all of you know that
Starting point is 00:31:42 That clip from Donald Trump is the most retarded thing he's ever said in his life. What? What a like it is actually, I swear to God, there was something about it that I've never looked at at Donald Trump as being so old. It was like as soon as he said it, I was like, oh yeah, he's 80. That's what's going on here. said it, I was like, Oh yeah, he's 80. That's what's going on here. He said, Tucker Carlson should get a TV network so that some people actually listen to him. Excuse me. Tucker Carlson is the biggest,
Starting point is 00:32:18 most influential right wing political commentator in the country. You did his show. You know, think about like what a piece of shit Donald Trump is. Tucker Carlson, man. He gave the keynote speech at the Republican National Convention. He stuck his neck out for the president. He's gone to bat for the president. He was touring, campaigning with him all around the country.
Starting point is 00:32:44 Got up at Madison Square Garden and spoke on behalf of the president. Spoke touring, campaigning with him all around the country, got up at Madison Square Garden and spoke on behalf of the president, spoke at a bunch of different events. He was the intellectual backing for Donald Trump because he could say it in a way that Donald Trump couldn't say it himself. He was the number one rated show in cable news, got fired and got bigger by orders of magnitude. This is Donald Trump. If you didn't, let me ask something. Hey, Donald Trump, if you need a TV network for people to hear you, then why did you do so many podcasts to get yourself back in the White House?
Starting point is 00:33:19 Did people not hear you on Joe Rogan or Tucker Carlson or with Theo Vaughn or with Andrew Schultz? You're hanging out with the NELC boys. What are you talking about, dude? Did you really? And here's the thing, Tucker, I mean, excuse me, Trump knows this and he was smart enough to listen to Baron. At least that's what some reporting is saying is that Baron was the one who convinced them that you got to do the podcast. This is where the eyeballs are now, which would make sense that his son would be a little more, you know, have his finger on the pulse or whatever.
Starting point is 00:33:47 But Trump obviously internalized that lesson cause he did all the shows. They got huge, huge numbers and he, they brought them back into the white house. He just wants to knock Tucker. It's just, it's that simple. He just wants to insult him because that's how it is with Donald Trump. Loyalty is an entirely one way street. It doesn't matter what you did for the guy. You could have given him $300 million. You could have, uh,
Starting point is 00:34:12 reinstated him on Twitter. You could have fought for him every single day. You could have given his keynote speech at the Republican national convention. You could have done any of this, but if he perceives that you disagreed with him on something, by the way, Tucker didn't insult him. Tucker went out of his way to compliment Donald Trump. Just said he disagrees with him getting us into this war. Nope, you're done. And not just you're done, but you're a loser. You're nobody listens to you.
Starting point is 00:34:36 Tucker Carlson is breaking the internet right now for his grilling of Ted Cruz, but nobody listens to him. But you know, what's even lower, what's even lower than what Donald Trump does is what Ben Shapiro's doing right here. Because Ben Shapiro is doing it from a podcast. He doesn't even have a TV show. He's insulting his own brand just because his big brother, he thinks now,
Starting point is 00:35:01 who, by the way, he was never loyal to to begin with, but just because he thinks he can use him because it's the only way he knows he can win over the audience that people do seem to like that guy. They sure don't like you, but so now he's going to use Trump saying you have to have a TV network so anyone can listen to you. I mean, come on. It's just too pathetic, man. Of all, of all the segments he's done about me,
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Starting point is 00:36:45 who are claiming that President Trump has betrayed the movement and so on and so forth. Those people would include Representative Alexander Ocasio-Cortez, Representative Thomas Massie of Kentucky, who President Trump has won his primary. It includes Bernie Sanders, who has also come out against the president of the United States. The horseshoe theory is real and working.
Starting point is 00:37:10 Thomas Massey says, quote, This is not our war. I'm introducing a bipartisan war powers resolution tomorrow to prohibit our involvement. So first of all, that is not how the war powers resolution more I mean, you can provide the resolution. But then the president has 60 days within which to continue to conduct activities before he has to go back to Congress for the possibility of a permission or shutdown of funds. So good luck with that because this thing is going to be over well before that. Alexander Ocasio-Cortez signed on as well. Bernie Sanders very up. So here we have Ben Shapiro now after all of that in invoking what can only be described as the lowest IQ argument in politics.
Starting point is 00:37:45 There simply is no lower IQ argument than this one. Now, by the way, it's a somewhat effective one. And this is it because we are, you know, we are social animals and social psychology plays a big role. And so this is, this is how you get like the lowest IQ boomers on your side is you go, you, you, you like that policy? The left disagree with that policy. You like the left. That's it. That's all the argument is. Now you feel this way. So does AOC. You have cooties now. Okay.
Starting point is 00:38:21 So I agree with people on the left on this issue. Who are you with ben shapiro? You're with the cia and benjamin netanyahu and lindsey graham and dick cheney and george w bush I'm sure they all support this war as well. That's who you're with. What does that disprove anything? Like what does it even mean? Like if I could make the argument that Oxygen is necessary to sustain human life and someone could say, Hitler agrees with that argument. Like what? Okay. Who cares? It's either correct or it's incorrect. Which one is it?
Starting point is 00:38:56 And this is the, and then for Ben Shapiro, cause you know, um, he's, he's not just pretending to be a Trump supporter. Uh, he's also pretending to be an American patriot. He's also pretending to be an American patriot. He's also pretending to be a conservative. But you know, at one point he used to pretend to be a constitutionalist. And he's now arguing against Congress taking back the power to declare war.
Starting point is 00:39:18 That's what you've found yourself arguing now. And forget this last little line here about how, oh, the war will be over in 60 days. Oh, okay. Maybe, maybe not. Has anybody worried about that possibility? Yeah, you say the war will be over in 60 days. Yeah, you also said we'd be greeted as liberators and the war would be paid for in oil. It would be a cake walk and the weapons of mass destruction were a slam dunk, right? Yeah, it's easy to sit here and say when you launch a war, this is going to be a piece of cake.
Starting point is 00:39:49 But who knows if that's right or not? Certainly no reason to suspect it is. I mean, I hope it is. Like we're at war already at this point, right? I'd much rather look bad and the situation be less of a catastrophe. I hope the war is over soon. I hope it is as, um, I hope it's as, as little of a disaster as possible.
Starting point is 00:40:16 Cause I'm not rooting for that, but to just sit here, it's like what all the Hawks are doing. I was just going off about this on the Pierce Morgan show. It's like all these guys like with such confidence a few days into a war. Oh yeah, this is so easy. It's going so good. It'll be over by the time the war powers acts like, okay. I'm just saying, I know the only comparisons we're allowed to use our world war two world war two last I checked did not wrap up in 60 days. Um, but you know But you know, I do it's a weird thing of me. I do like to reference all of the other wars of the last 25 years
Starting point is 00:40:53 None of them were over that quickly None of them not even close many of them went on for multiple decades and Iran At least on paper is a much tougher adversary than any of them by any metric You know Iran is if you could if you could picture like on a map you have like Iraq and then there's Iran and then there's Afghanistan, you know Iran is three times bigger than Iraq. They also have much more difficult terrain to fight on They also have a military and an air force and intercontinental ballistic missiles. They, they actually have a fighting shot or ballistic missiles, maybe not intercontinental, but they have ballistic missiles.
Starting point is 00:41:35 And so also they've already touched Israel. This is, this has already gotten Israeli civilians killed, which all of a sudden just doesn't seem to be that big of a priority, you know? Like we were, I thought that was the thing that really mattered. But no, that doesn't even really matter either, I guess. All right, let's keep playing. Set. The boys over at Pod Save America are siding with Tucker Carlson and Marjorie Taylor Greene. I have a general rule. If the people at Pod Save America are siding with Tucker Carlson and Marjorie Taylor Greene.
Starting point is 00:42:05 I have a general rule. If the people at Pod Save America are agreeing with you on a major foreign policy issue, the designers of the JCPOA, you are doing it wrong. Here's Tommy Vieter, a former van driver for Barack Obama. Let's pause it right there. Let's pause it right there. Again, that's Ben Shapiro's rule of thumb. It's the dumbest rule imaginable.
Starting point is 00:42:25 It's unbelievable. This guy's supposed to be like a professional smart person. This is the dumbest lowest IQ argument imaginable. If the guys from that podcast are with you, then it must be a bad idea. Ben, like, do you defend the war in Iraq? Do you, do you defend that war? You know who was against that war? People like Ron Paul, people like Pat Buchanan and a whole bunch of leftists, a whole bunch of leftists. You know who was for it? You, you supported it. You supported that catastrophe. No, like,
Starting point is 00:42:59 imagine look like, I know it's tough for me to relate to this position because you know, I've been right about all the major issues of our time. It's just kind of true. I've just been on the right side of them. So, I mean, I don't think there's one major issue. I'm saying like a major us policy that since I've been doing this podcast, anyone including Ben Shapiro could sit here and argue that I didn't get right. Like when Ben Shapiro was saying, take the vaccine, you dopes. When Ben Shapiro was supporting lockdowns, what was I doing? Oh yeah, that's right.
Starting point is 00:43:36 I was telling them the truth and getting it right. But imagine, I'm trying to imagine, imagine you had cheerlead the war in Iraq or you had cheerlead any of these other wars and then you're gonna you're gonna turn around and Advocate for the next war without even like the slightest bit of like look I'm hoping this isn't a disaster again, and look I'm hoping the war will be over in 60 days But I guess we really don't know what's gonna happen and what what the reaction is going to be here. No, it's it'll work. It'll be over in 60 days. You're an idiot. You agree with the left. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:44:10 The left were much better on the at least during George W. Bush. The left was much better on the wars in Afghanistan and the war in Iraq. Then neo-con hawks like Ben Shapiro were, okay, I'll take them. Like, what does this even mean? Again, again, like just to drive this point home, like, do you, Ben Shapiro, do you hate Adolf Hitler? You know, who's on your side? Joseph Stalin. Wow. See my rule of thumb is I don't agree with Joseph
Starting point is 00:44:42 Stalin. Tell me, is that an intelligent argument or is that the dumbest shit you've ever heard in your life? You tell me. All right, let's keep playing. Are doing it wrong. Here's Tommy Vita, a former van driver for Barack Obama. The folks they're fighting against are like Tucker Carlson, Steve Bannon, Marjorie Taylor Green, who I think on the merits, I mean, on the merits and on the politics, like I'm team Tucker, Steve, MTG here, fellas. So on the merits, I think they have correctly identified when they did so before this week
Starting point is 00:45:18 that this wasn't really just about weapons of mass destruction. This was a regime change war, which has been confirmed by all these reports that Trump is vetoing plans to kill the Iranian supreme leader. So check for Tucker there. And then the politics, I just think that Tucker and Bannon and MTG are way more in tune with the MAGA base than the gang at National Review. And no one wants another war in the Middle East. And no one is going to believe another intelligence- intelligence based trust me, we're the experts pitch about why we need to go decapitate the leaders of another Middle Eastern country. So first of all, Israel has not asked the United States to
Starting point is 00:45:56 decapitate the leadership of another country. Second of all, Tommy Vieter is the biggest idiot in foreign policy. That dude worked with Ben Rhodes on the JCPOA to set up an Iranian dominant Middle East that ended with October 7th and wild expansion of terror groups all over the region. That guy. So if he's agreeing with you, you should be running for that. Also, if someone speaks for MAGA. Okay. So this is what's truly wild here. You're going to sit here and say that the JCPOA actually was what led to October 7th. No argument, no, no reason why that is the case. I mean the act,
Starting point is 00:46:37 see they're using the fact that Iran was enriching up to 60% as the reason why Israel's justified in launching this war. But they're also, he's also blaming the deal that kept them enriching lower. It was after Trump tore up the deal that they upped their enrichment levels because they didn't have to abide by it anymore. This is just too insane. Hey, if you want to look at a policy that handed Iran some more influence, I've got a much bigger one for you. The war in Iraq. Like, so for those of you guys who don't know,
Starting point is 00:47:16 right? The, um, Iraq is a majority Shiite country that's next door neighbors with Shiite Iran. Okay. So they were they have a super majority of Shiites in their population. So Dom Hussein's bathist parties were Sunnis So they were the minority was ruling over the majority Okay. Now for those of you guys who don't know that much about this region There's people who know a lot more than me. I do know this much the Shiite Sunni split pretty big deal over there and they don't really care for each other a little bit of background so we over threw the
Starting point is 00:47:56 Iran's next-door neighbors Sunni dictator and Instituted elections and you'll never guess who won the Shiites did we essentially Handed Baghdad to Iran on a silver platter. That's what gave them the increased influence in the region not the deal with Obama which by the way They were abiding by before Donald Trump tore it up and they were no longer, um, they were, they were no longer forced to at that point.
Starting point is 00:48:31 But all of this, like, again, if you notice he can't even, he doesn't even respond to any of the arguments that this guy, and I don't know this guy, I don't, I don't never listen to pod save America in my life. I've heard of it before, but like what he just said there was entirely reasonable Entirely reasonable and then of course Ben Shapiro makes the point. This is how they always play it, right? They always play it that Israel isn't even asking America Israel's not even asking America to do nothing. It's like first of all Axios broke a story just a couple days ago. Israel is actually asking America Yeah, they're asking America to bomb Iran. Of course they always are. And,
Starting point is 00:49:06 you know, but even without that, we're not asking America for anything except for billion dollars a year unconditionally and give us all of your weapons and your intelligence sharing so that we're capable of pulling this off. I'm like, okay, well that is actually kind of asking for something now, is it? We're not asking for anything. We just just when the rockets come flying back at us We're gonna need you to shoot them down because we can't defend ourselves Hmm kind of seems like you are asking for something and the point is that as I said before and I've been saying this last
Starting point is 00:49:35 week if you're saying that because an Iranian proxy Conducted October 7th. Therefore Iran is at war with them. Okay. Well, this is an American proxy who started a war with Iran And so from the Iranian perspective if you're being consistent with this from the Iranian perspective they've been attacked by America and Just from any reasonable perspective and so what happens now What happens if in the response to this, some Americans are killed? What does Donald Trump do then? Do you really think Donald Trump, you think if a couple Americans get killed in a retaliatory Iranian strike, that Donald Trump's just gonna take that and not have to drop the
Starting point is 00:50:19 biggest bomb in the history of bombs or something like that? This thing can escalate very very quickly quickly and for you to sit here and just point out that it's like, oh, these guys agree with you. Therefore, you're wrong. While we while we stare into the abyss of catastrophe is just it's just pathetic. Now let's keep playing. That guy, so if he's agreeing with you, you should be running for that. Also, if someone speaks agreeing with you, you should be running for that.
Starting point is 00:50:45 Also, if someone speaks for MAGA, Tucker can't speak for MAGA. Marjorie Taylor Greene doesn't speak for MAGA. Tommy Vieterschrisch doesn't speak for MAGA. I mean, that's just ridiculous. At least Tucker and Marjorie Taylor Greene can claim to have voted for the president. Tommy Vieter hates that guy and he's going to speak for what MAGA wants. Good luck again. I think hopefully one. what Maga wants. It's just, it's, it's like, again,
Starting point is 00:51:05 all Ben Shapiro has is intense dishonesty and the dumbest arguments. Did, did either of those guys claim to speak for Maga? Like, what does that even mean? Do you see how he's just trying to play these like tribal games? He's, it's purely just like, you're on this team. That's that team. That's them over there. You're going to let that team speak for your team. No, I say president Trump speaks for our team. The guy, at least from the clip he just played, he never claimed to speak for MAGA.
Starting point is 00:51:36 Like I never claimed to speak for MAGA. I'd said Trump has betrayed his principles or his promises or whatever, but what his base wanted, but my claiming to speak for them, it's simply what the people wanted from Donald Trump and what they voted him into power for. Um, the, and you know, if you need to know that, you can just look at all the stuff Donald Trump talked about during the campaign about how he was going to end wars and keep us out of wars. Now Joe Biden was just wanted to bomb everything and he wasn't going to do that. Um, they didn't claim to speak for,
Starting point is 00:52:09 uh, MAGA. What they said is that there's a big split within the MAGA world right now. And we agree with this side more because we don't want to see another regime change war. That's what they said. And so again, there's just like, there's no actual argument here. This is so incredibly weak. All right, let's play it. One person kind of speaks for what mad guy as a general rule wants.
Starting point is 00:52:35 And I may disagree with it, you may disagree with it, but only one guy speaks for that movement and that is the president of the United States, which brings us to the subject of today's take down. Okay, here, let's pause it right there. Um, so Ben Shapiro now is essentially, again, only doing this because Donald Trump has cucked to Israel. And so now, of course, he'll have Ben Shapiro's undying support. Um, Ben Shapiro is repeating the Trump line that nobody else speaks for MAGA.
Starting point is 00:53:07 Only Donald Trump speaks for MAGA. So are you, is Ben Shapiro's argument here that there is nothing Donald Trump could do that would be a betrayal of America first or of MAGA? Like what does this even mean if Donald Trump were to turn around tomorrow and just say, you know, I'm implementing Kamala Harris's entire policy. Is that MAGA now? Is this what you're saying, Ben Shapiro, that only Donald Trump gets to care? By the way, again, if you notice here, there's no,. What do you what does this even mean? Maga is make America great again. It was a slogan that Ronald Reagan came up with that I believe
Starting point is 00:53:58 Roger Stone convinced Donald Trump to run on by the way. It's a great political slogan Then that's one thing Donald Trump's great at is being the best self promoter ever So he said but again you realize you're into a realm where we're Not even actually talking about anything Was it make America great again is whatever Donald Trump says is make America great again And if you don't get to say what MAGA is or you don't get to say yeah But you know what I get to say what I think is the correct policy So like what are we even talking about here when you strip away all the nonsense? What are you left with? What does that even mean? Are you saying that no matter what Trump does it's right? Is that what Ben Shapiro says?
Starting point is 00:54:32 What? Imagine Donald Trump turning on Israel and then we'd see what Ben Shapiro had to say about Donald Trump But you're not so you're saying whatever he says is MAGA. Okay, fine Fine, I'll concede that Okay, when he says the wrong thing, I'm going to oppose it when he says is MAGA. Okay, fine. Fine. I'll concede that. Okay. When he says the wrong thing, I'm going to oppose it. When he says the right thing, I'm going to support it. When he enacts the wrong policy, I'm going to oppose it. When he enacts the correct policy, I'm going to support it.
Starting point is 00:54:54 What are we talking about here? What has he added to this conversation other than like he's just insulting me, criticizing my consistency when he's been far more inconsistent, playing a clip of Donald Trump insulting Tucker Carlson in the most idiotic way, playing a very reasonable clip from Pod Save America and then saying, see, these lefties agree. Are you on their team? And then concluding with mega is as mega does. What Donald Trump says it and that's mega now. Okay.
Starting point is 00:55:31 Like I just don't know. Like, listen, obviously Ben Shapiro is not an idiot. He's got a very high verbal IQ. It's not easy to motor mouth speed talk the way he does. Um, but he's good at doing that. Obviously he's a talented guy and he's, but, but in terms of the actual substance of his arguments here, the, the, I don't think there's a dumber person in the world. Like there's no one you could find the most like picture in your mind,
Starting point is 00:55:59 the dumbest caricature of a guy who's just blindly supporting Donald Trump, missing teeth and overalls, whatever you want to put on them. These are the type of arguments that guy would throw out. What is this? This is just pure nonsense. All right, guys, let's take a moment and thank our sponsor for today's show, which is Blackout Coffee. You got to try this stuff.
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Starting point is 00:57:17 I will congratulate you for, for working up the courage to speak my name. I know it took a long time, it took years, but we got here. I appreciate it. But you know, when you say my name, I reserve the right to eviscerate all of your arguments. But Hey, if you think I'm wrong, Ben Shapiro, since we're on a first name basis now, Ben, if you feel like I'm wrong, then come get you some dude. Anytime. Any moderator, any format, any place I'll fly to you. Let's do it. But let's sit down and really hash this out and let's see,
Starting point is 00:57:53 let's see who's got the stronger arguments. All right, look, man, there's, there's not, you know, we're in a new media world now. There's obviously, I think one of the, uh, one of the kind of common themes here is that the people who were in in the old media order, and I include Ben Shapiro on this, they're very resentful that a lot of, uh, younger and newer voices like myself, um, are, are getting big platforms now and getting large audiences. And,
Starting point is 00:58:35 you know, the, I understand it. It's human nature to some degree. There's also this dynamic, you know, of course, look really since, um, really since Douglas Murray, so since the debate with Douglas Murray, I've just been getting attacked by these guys a lot more. You know, the Mark Levins and Ben Shapiro's and Dave Rubin's and all these guys, you know, who kind of felt like they were in when things were more controlled and are losing influence that they've been attacking me like crazy. And that's fine. I mean, listen, this is the business we sign up for. I'm not, that's not That's fine. You know, I've said for a long time. I'm very very blessed to have the career I have I
Starting point is 00:59:11 Truly love what I do. I genuinely love it I love going to work every day and I have an amazing family and This work that I do is able to provide a very nice life for them. So I am enormously lucky and fortunate and blessed. The price tag that comes along with it is that some of these Warhawks are going to like trash me. Like, Hey, that's a good deal. I actually kind of get a kick out of it. So I'm very happy with this. But what I think probably a lot of you have seen, and I've certainly seen is that a lot of these guys,
Starting point is 00:59:43 they kind of don't know what to do with me. They don't really know how to, you know, it's like, shit, you know, all right, we, I guess we could debate. Well, we can't really debate him cause he just wins all the debates. We can't really call him an anti-Semite cause he's Jewish. So that kind of is a tougher sell. I mean, they try, but it's a tougher sell. And so what they've, they've kind of settled on is this just like, um, you know,
Starting point is 01:00:10 whatever the Douglas Murray stuff, you're not an expert. You don't know enough. You're just a comedian. You're just, it's like this is kind of the repeat of the repeating line that everyone said for a while. And this was both Mark Levin and Ben Shapiro for a while. It seemed like the way they would deal with me is to not even recognize my presence. Like we won't even say his name. We'll do segments on him, but say the comic guy just to be dismissive. But the problem is that my, my, um,
Starting point is 01:00:40 my profile just keeps rising. It keeps getting bigger and bigger. And so now they're like, Oh, I guess, I guess we can say his name, but we got to go at them or whatever. They try to use these ridiculous low IQ tactics, but I'll just say this, man, if you've supported a bunch of wars and got them disastrously wrong, have the most basic amount of integrity, which is that if you're going to do all these public segments about it,
Starting point is 01:01:06 then sit down and actually have the debate and see if your ideas can stand up. You know, then, then they turn around and say, this is their other type of, it's why they're losing. It's a, then they go, Oh, you're just a debate me, bro. You just want to debate everyone. And someone said that to me, uh, the other day as I was standing up to the war someone a fairly prominent Account on Twitter said you're just in this for attention for yourself You're like We all do shows
Starting point is 01:01:35 What like that's your line of argumentation? Well, I'm in it for attention, but then Shapiro is not we all turn cameras on and put them on ourselves But then Shapiro is not we all turn cameras on and put them on ourselves So sure but it's interesting that only the guy opposing the war is in it for his own profile The guy is supporting the war who's going on all these shows what they don't they don't care about Being in the show. It's just it's all so ridiculous, but I would just say From my perspective when I do these segments where I'm like taking someone on every single time I offer to debate them, because that just to me feels like the integrity move.
Starting point is 01:02:14 If I'm going to talk all this shit, well then I'd better be prepared to go put my ideas up against the up, you know, to the test of seeing whether somebody else can take them on. I did one debate earlier today. I'm about to go do another debate tonight. Hey, Ben Shapiro, now that you're saying my name, come get you some. Let's see what's up. All right, thank you guys so much
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