Part Of The Problem - The Hawks Are Not Sending Their Best

Episode Date: March 30, 2026

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What's up everybody? Welcome to a brand new episode of Part of the Problem. I am Dave Smith. He is Robbie the Fire. Bernstein. We are back from our, our wonderful trip in Boston, Bastian. Great times. Thanks to everybody who came out to the shows. That was a lot of fun. How you doing, Rob? And actual human beings at the shows, not just bots. Yeah. Well, it was a mix. It was a mix of humans and bots. And a few freaks from the convention next door. Yeah, there was a little bit of a freak convention. Well, there was a, so me and Rob were up in Boston. I did get to see a bit of the No Kings rally that they had up there.

Really was quite a group of freaks from what I saw. Just everyone who you would have thought would have been at like a trans protest is what I saw at these protests. Just, you know, my limited looking out from an Uber as I'm, you know, driving around Boston. but I don't know one thing I just first of all I always with these protests I guess I've never looked at them the same since there was what was that that a chick's name she was like a real high rank in operative who said in the time magazine piece was bragging about how the Democrats can turn on and off the the protests and how crazy it is that like Joe Biden gets in and all the sudden none of these people care about any black guy who gets killed by the cops for the next

few years and it's just like, I don't know. But anyway, you see these things and all these signs. And I don't know, Rob, I think we talked about this. I don't know if you saw any of this, but every sign I saw was just like the vaguest thing. Like it was all just like people over fascism or ruled by the many, not by the monarch or like something like that. And you're just sitting there and you're like, guys, there's a war on. Like, what are you doing?

Like, you want to protest the things right there for you to protest. what is this? I don't know. I really got no comment other than that, but it was just kind of strange. I guess Soros wants to take the opportunity to criticize Trump and not the actual war that he's engaging in. Or whatever the power structure is, looks as this as an opportunity to, you know,

show how much discontent there is for Trump, but they don't want to actually direct it towards the war. Maybe, maybe just chaos, you know? Like, that's just the goal right now, get things more chaotic. maybe it's who knows you know but it's just it's very interesting it just feels i don't know it just felt i guess i was looking at it it look dude i don't know i have no evidence or anything like that i'm just saying like as you look at it you felt like you're like was this kind of like paid to be here

is this even a real thing is it possible that that's what you but you came with a sign that just doesn't say anything and i don't know it's very strange um anyway so we got been quite a busy a busy few days for me and it's not going to stop yet I got one more flight that I get on tomorrow

to go do another big show and so that I'm looking forward to so I apologize for the schedule being a little bit messed up we did we were able to get a member's only episode out this weekend while we were in Boston and so if you want to become a member go sign up at part of the problem.com

and you can go listen to that episode because that's what you get an extra episode except for the last few weeks but I will make up all of those we did an hour and a half basically taken on Coleman Hughes so it's only available behind the paywall go check it out yes but I did mention at the beginning of there

I feel like so you know I kind of got to say something on a public episode about this too because you know I was a little inconsistent with the schedule here but I you know was obviously I just did Joe Rogan experience again. And then I had this debate that went super viral. And really was, you know, so I think the last episode that we did, if I'm remembering correctly, Rob, the last public episode we did, I started, it was immediately after filming the debate with

Adam from the Patrick Brett David podcast. And at the time, it just, I don't know, I didn't really have anything to say about it. I just kind of meant, you know, it was just like, oh, I debated a dummy and and he embarrassed himself. Another one of those, you know what I mean? It's a little bit more interesting because it was Pat's guy this time, but that would, but then I did not realize the reaction to it. Like what it would be. I mean, this is, it's got to be up there with, it is, it is top five, like the most reaction to a show I've ever done. Like it went super goddamn viral. It is dominating the comment section of the PBD podcast. is dominating other people's debates?

Like the Coleman Hughes, Glenn Greenwald one is all. So anyway, I just, I talked about this a little bit on the members only episode, but I'll just say this briefly here as I've been thinking about it. And in a way, I feel almost a little bit awkward. I feel a little bit bad. I don't, I like and respect Pat and now his entire comment section is flooded with this shit. And, you know, I just, I'm a very loyal person. and I really appreciate when people like, you know, give me opportunities.

I'm like, Patrick David gave me the Chris Cuomo debate. I will just never, you know, not be so grateful to him for that. But like the more I think about this, it is all Pat's fault. So that's, it's all his fault, man. I mean, come on, dude, you're the general. What are you doing? What are you doing having your guy not only debate me? What are you doing having your guy debate me?

and then what are you doing letting them come at me like that you know what i'm going to have to do to him like what why would you do this bad and i mean that i mean that playfully i love and respect patrick bet david um also just uh as i've gotten to know him a little bit and like sitting down at lunch and talking to the guy he's an incredibly impressive human being that's like a real leader a real like force of nature and an interesting, very interesting guy. Really, really sharp business mind. I start talking business with him and it's like, I'm as drowned in a conversation about business with Patrick Bitt David as Adam is in a conversation about war with me. Like I'm as out of my league in that conversation. So I always just find the guy interesting. Anyway, so you know,

eh, it happens. It's your fault. You can't let your guys do this. That's crazy. Come on. Someone had to warn him. Anyway, I just wanted to address that publicly. So I've had an interesting, you know, it's been a few days of getting, you know, between that debate and then doing the Rogan podcast and getting a lot of stuff online. And it's always, it's kind of interesting. Rob, there's this new thing. I've noticed this a lot. Again, I don't exactly, it's, it's just kind of strange the way it happens.

but the last few times I was on Rogan, including, really it started with the Douglas Murray debate, and then I've done it a few more times since then. And every time now, it's like, for a few days, it's just like fucking people sharing my clips and overwhelmingly like the people who are like, oh, this was awesome and blah, blah, blah, and agree with it, right? And then like a few days later, there's a thing where it hits.

And I'm just telling you, I've been on social media for a long time. I've been doing shows for a long time. It's only really been, like, since the Douglas Murray debate, where, like, three days after it comes out, all of a sudden there's just like a switch, and it's like, all these, like, negative accounts, like, going at me and coming at me with all these different things. And again, much like the protests, I don't know. I'm not alleging anything, but it is, you know, for the people, this Fox News guy will say,

oh, Dave Smith's accounts botted by foreign, you know, whatever. It's like, I get like on one day, just like a thousand accounts, all with no profile pictures, all with like, you know, like three followers or something, all with like this, that all say like the same exact thing. Anyway, it's a little bit strange, but much like I've gotten this in the past where some people will like come out with these, you know, It's always a mix rub of either. It's like a prominent person who just wants to insult you as a response.

They have no argument. They don't want to contend with anything I said. They just want to come out here and go, I'm an expert and he's not or whatever, which is, I'm shocked they keep doing it. It seems so counterproductive and clearly only plays into our hands. Like, yeah, keep with your elitist snobbery unattached to an argument. You know, it's like, whatever. It just is not helping you. It doesn't help you to, it just demonstrates you can't take on shit.

But it's a mix of this. I get either some prominent person who won't take on the argument and will just call me names, or I get some unknown person who I've never heard of who will write you a goddamn diatribe. Like, I mean, literally we'll write you 13 pages out and then we'll go, Dave won't take on this. And you're like, dude, it's like, I don't know. It's like, so anyway, we're going to take on one of them here because this, this one did like go viral on the internet here. But it's just, it's such a weird standard where you sit here and you go, guys, look, I think I'm being reasonable here with the way I

manage my time and the amount of debates I do and how willing I am to step up to the plate with just about anyone within reason. And, you know, you're like, oh, Dave, you didn't respond to this entire fucking novel from this guy who you've never heard of. And it's like, Meanwhile, I'm like, okay, here's my actual life, you know. I got on a plane to go, got on a plane to go out to, you know, Austin five days ago, got on a plane to come home, four days ago, got on a plane to go to Boston, three days ago. Had five shows in Boston this weekend, plus we did a podcast up there. I'm coming back to do a show here.

I'm with my kids the whole time that my family came with me on this last trip. And so you're just like, at what point do I have to? You know what I'm saying? Like, you can't. So like, for all, just going forward, for you guys, like, if you're not a prominent person, and you do want to take on my shit on social media, it's one point, your best point, you know what I mean, like at a time at least, like start with one,

and that's the way you could get a response from me if you actually want that. Or maybe they can coordinate and, you know, draft one list arguments and have a single expert sign off on it. Like a God, Gad Satter whoever doesn't want to actually list an argument. Maybe you guys can put together the argument for him, and then he can sign off on, this is what I think Dave got wrong and then it gets handed to us and then we can take it on because you know it's got a name attached to it. All right guys, let's take a moment and thank our sponsor for

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This offer is valid for a limited time. Terms and conditions may apply. All right, let's get back into the show. I love, I don't know if you saw Gad's tweet today, but I just loved it so much. Oh, I ratioed the fucking shit out of him. It really does feel good. Like I'm not saying it's like all that matters is appealing to the audience. Obviously not. But when someone's just totally wrong and they deserve it and they're being an asshole too, it is a nice feeling. And he's, because he's been doing the thing forever where he just won't engage. You know, he'll just, for whatever reason, whatever excuse, I'm important enough to talk shit about and like throw out boomer insults to, but you can't ever take on a goddamn argument. It's like, okay, it's sort of, but you want to just do

that again you want to just hand me the win by default then fine but so then after hiding behind it forever he comes out once and throws out an argument today and it's the dumbest shit you've ever heard in your goddamn life like it is like it's like behind that whole facade these fake fucking intellectuals dude and i can't stand that shit that fucking snobbery um the argument he threw out was they go uh he was saying something like oh i'm sure someone will find a way to blame you know, uh, Jolani killing Christians in Syria on the Jews, you know, being like, because it's a Muslim killing a Muslim, I guess is the extent of what Gad knows about it. I mean, obviously, Gad knows what's up, but he is who he is. Um, but, uh, but so he goes, oh, someone will find a way

to blame that on the Jews. And I just went, dude, Netanyahu publicly took credit for it when Assad fell, like literally took credit for it. And then, so his response today was to someone, He goes, oh, when you blame it on the Jews, you deny the agency of the Syrians. And you're like, oh, that's the argument you got? That's, you mean the dumbest fucking pro-war argument that everyone always makes when you, when you point out that the NED and the USAID poured $100 million into the Maid on Revolution? They go, so you're saying those people didn't have agency? Like, what?

No. I'm saying the NED in the USAID poured 100. million dollars into it is what i'm saying also people with agency and a hundred million dollars people with agency at agencies with a hundred million dollars to spend that you know like and so anyway it's just i guess it's a thing i have i don't know rob like i grew up in in like a family of academics like i'm i was kind of like the black sheep of the family or whatever uh you know most successful one now but uh rub it in make sure they're listening to you're listening to Like, no, oh.

But like I, you know, all members of my family. Like everyone went to like fucking, everyone has like PhDs and went to Ivy League schools and stuff. And they're very smart people. My brother, my sister, my mother, all very smart. And there's a lot of really smart people in academia. I know that firsthand. I know them. That's like, you know, I grew up with people like this.

But then I also kind of had a fucked up childhood. a lot of ways and I became the person that I am. But I always just found out in life pretty easily that that, first of all, like, yes, there are some very impressive people with some impressive titles. There is also an overwhelming majority of them who just aren't that impressive with those same exact titles. And actually, like, there are people, my stepdad is a is a trucker. He's been a trucker his whole life. So one of the smartest guys I know. Really knows shit. Well read, knows history. Also, it's a lot of wisdom, which is something that a lot of these guys just don't have. And I just always, the idea that like, oh, this truck driver could never like school a college

grad in a debate is essentially like what Gad said is saying. And it's like, nah, dude, fuck you. And you're actually wrong. It's not true. And there's and he can pretend what he wants to. There's a reason why he won't sit down and debate me. It's like the, and there's tons of other guys who would tear him apart. Like it's not, you know, and I do, I do just really hate that. because it's it's just a it's a really ugly like a personality trait to have and it's just not true it's not true dude like there's there's regular ass people all over the world who are like smart interesting people um and it's and there's a lot of fucking really unimpressive people in academia we've seen a bunch of them haven't we rob yep i mean we had years of uh trans the kids yeah

Coming from the academics. Mm-hmm. We need more windows. Literally, no, I mean, you think about like the level. It's not just like how awful and destructive the policies are, but like how stupid some of the people who you see are. Like Joy Reid went to Harvard, dude. I had every academic in the country. I had every academic in the country tell me even though I already had COVID, I still needed to get a vaccine.

So you guys, you can keep. You can keep your expertise class. Yeah, it's, yeah, really. It's like, and there's also a funny kind of thing about like, I don't know, whatever. It's, that's always the knock on me, I guess, or you're just a comedian, you're not an expert. But it's like, the way I view things was always like, yeah, that's right. I'm a guy. I'm a dude talking to other people.

Like, I don't, I don't think anyone who listens to this show or is like a fan of, should be looking at me that like I'm anything other than that. I'm just like I like to talk about this stuff and I'll tell you how I feel. And so my point is just that I'm like, it's almost like I view myself as like, I'm a dude. I'm having a conversation with the American people or a little chunk of it who listened to me. And then there's someone from like the expert class who's like, you don't speak for us. And I'm like, yeah. Dude, you can, we, this could just exclude you.

Like I'm, I'm having a conversation with other people here, you know? And so like, and then also, I mean, I mean, Obviously, there are lots of people in the expert class, or what I would certainly consider it, who I think are great and who I've been lucky enough to become friends with a lot of them. Anyway, okay. So here is the tweet thread. And I'll just go through, listen, I don't know if we'll have time to go through all of this because it's just, I just kind of want to demonstrate that it's like there were a bunch of people.

So basically what happened was some account, I have never heard of this account before, but they got a little bit of a following. And they put out like a long tweet thread about how I was spreading misinformation on the Joe Rogan podcast. And, you know, it got like 600,000 views or something like that. And a lot of people were sharing it to me. Dave, that sounds real dangerous. Were you out there warning people that this were might not be a good idea? Yeah, this is dangerous misinformation.

But well, look, claiming that I got some things wrong. but let's go through this, or at least a little bit. I think the reason some people were trying to give me shit, everyone's looking always at this point to try to get a win. You know, this is where you got it wrong. This is what you got. You know, I have a lot of people attempting to do that. And so he wrote this long thread out.

And then I just read, you know, thumb through it real quickly. And it's like, oh, what? And so I just responded with one sentence. And I said, this post does not debunk a single thing that I said, not one um but then i guess just the optics of that people go like well hey he did this whole thing and you only had one set you come on dude you want someone to take on your argument he's a so i figured why not make it a segment on the show um i know sometimes people give me shit like don't live out twitter beef on the show but it's always in service of getting to a point and discussing the thing so

no my show um okay so it's a um um um We could actually, Natalie, I guess you could pull this up on the screen if you want to. It's the Merson tweet, I think. I hope I'm not butchering your name, sir. But he's, I don't know his account is all, oh, hold on. You can hit show translation. Show translation. So, okay, I don't know.

He's a writer and a podcast host. Okay, so he says the first tweet says, On a recent Joe Rogan episode, Comic Dave Smith talked about misinformation on Iran, but ended up spreading several misleading and one-sided claims. As an Iranian, I fact-checked just three minutes of what he said, and it was already disappointing. Here's a breakdown. Now, I do want to just say, before even we get to the first tweet there.

A random three minutes in the middle of the show? Yeah, edited it up. He just, no, I'm saying this guy just watched a random three minutes to go, these are the three minutes to debunk? Oh, I don't know. It's not like this was the first three minutes of the episode. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm just saying that's such a bullshit claim.

That's a good point. I honestly, Rob, completely missed that one. Wasn't even focused on that. But yeah, that's a pretty funny thing. In just three minutes as if in flying that he could do this the whole time through the show or something, that is kind of funny. Okay, but as other people did point out, you know, because this is actually what I found more relevant. You know, the account, because Twitter lets you see where people are now. accounts based in Portugal. Okay. Now, now again, I'll take this guy at his word that he's an Iranian,

but there's something to say like as, uh, um, as an Iranian, I fact checked him. It's like, no, dude, like that's, I'm sorry. Like how that's just not the case. If you're not living there, then it's not like as an Iranian I'm doing this. I'm not, you don't get knowledge from like your your DNA. I'm like, sure, there's a chance that, like, he knows people who are in Iran or something like that, but that's not as an Iranian. That's as someone who has family in Iran or a claim like that. I just don't like the like, anyway, whatever. All right, guys, let's take a moment and thank our sponsor for today's show, which is NICNAC. Most nicotine products are loaded with extra ingredients and all kinds of slop. Nicknack is the alternative, a family-owned company making the

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Warning, this product does contain nicotine. Nicotine is an addictive chemical. It is also pretty damn awesome. All right, let's get back into the show. Let's move on to more of the substance of it. Okay, so the first tweet that we go to here, Natalie, is, quote, Iranians rose up in defense of the regime, hundreds of thousands in Tehran. false misleading trump did not say this already rob i didn't claim that trump said that what i said

is that donald trump told the iranian people to rise up and take their government and they rose up by the hundreds of thousands in defense of their government there were verified aerial photos of this and you can clearly see by the aerial photos like i'm very confident to say hundreds of thousands because it was clearly high hundreds of thousands, maybe over a million people out in Tehran. It was like almost a ninth of the population of Tehran was out there, chant and death to America on behalf of the regime. That's what I said. So it's not misleading because Trump didn't say that.

I didn't claim Trump said that. And then he says, Trump did not say this. He actually urged people to stay at home, not rise up, in quote. Beyond that, okay, yeah, look, just to that, Rob, if you remember the speech that Trump gave, okay, maybe I didn't, he didn't, I don't remember if he actually said the word rise up or not. He said, take back your government. Like, what do you, how else would you do that? Would you do that by sitting down lower?

Or maybe would you do that by rising up? No, he did tell him to stay at home. Like, he was like, hey, there's a bombing campaign coming. I wasn't saying he said, hey, is soon. as we start, hey, people who want to overthrow this regime, as soon as we start bombing, step outside. Yes, he didn't say that, but he did tell them to take back their government. What are we disputing here? I think there was also a line of help. Help is on the way. Yes. This is your absolute best and only opportunity to go and do this. So it sounds like

it sounds like it's points for autism so far that he didn't specifically say the words rise up. as if that actually takes on the idea. Yeah, and also that you're just missing. Yes, you're missing the point. When I said, he said rise up and they rose up for the regime, I'm saying he was hoping they would go take back their government and instead a bunch of them went and said, no, this is our government.

That's obviously the point. You're intentionally missing this. And there's nothing, there's just nothing you have here. There's a non-point. Okay. Beyond that, the claim ignores reality in a reality. Iran. Only pro-regime rallies are allowed while anti-government protests face tear gas, arrests, and live ammunition. Crowd numbers come from the state and are unreliable.

Example, government claimed three million in Tehran, January 18th. Independent estimates put it at 100 to 140,000 in a city of 15 million. Okay, nothing to do with anything that I claimed. I'm not, again, I didn't say, you know, that the Iranians came out. out in the hundreds of thousands in Tehran in support of the regime, and it would be just as easy for them to come out in opposition to the regime. I didn't make that claim. I'm not claiming the government cracks down. I'm saying, this is all, given the situation we have, we have this government in place.

Donald Trump told the people to take back their government. And what happened is instead they did this. That's the claim, which is true. None of this debunks it. This isn't rating me false. You're just adding in other information that isn't related to shit. One and no. Okay.

So here's two. We may not get through that many of these because it's this stupid and easy for each one. Number two, 165 little girls were killed so people hate us. Tragic, but needs investigation. The reported toll reached 165, but verification is impossible due to internet shutdowns. This guy's going to be so bad. Yeah. Like he's not actually denying that there was a strike on kids.

And now he's just being, he's taking it a task. on whether or not the number was actually 165. If it was five, does that make it acceptable? If it was 100, is that now acceptable? So he's not actually challenging that this took place. He's challenging that we need independent verification of the 165 number. By the way, this isn't even the official defense of the U.S. government. The U.S. government is essentially there's a military report that's out that,

okay, maybe they caveated it a little bit, but said it was most likely an American strike. The president's defense was that maybe some other country used Tomahawks, maybe the Iranians, I'm sorry, used Tomahawks was the president's official defense of it, okay? Which is like obviously not true. And so, yeah, I mean, if you want to sit here and say that like, well, it's hard to verify every single detail, fine, but you're making up defenses for a regime that the regime itself is not even claiming. They don't want to say that. And there were a bunch of images of the school being hit. So, I mean, again, this is just like, no, this isn't something I'm wrong about.

This isn't even something any of the officials on the U.S. or Israeli side are disputing. Yeah, it's funny. It seems like he's trying to take on just the 165 number and pretend that that he's taking on the entire claim. It's really stupid. Right, which is, and the point of this, of course is that you go, this is a, he's saying the claim is that, oh, you killed all these kids and so people hate us. Like it is really funny to watch as it's just the, the people trying to argue against blowback, against the idea that you create hatred when you kill innocent people around the world is just, I don't, it's a very weird, you know, in politics, obviously like I'm very interested in a lot of different topics and I've had a lot of different arguments

about them and read a lot of different arguments that different thinkers have made. And there's something particularly about the people who argue that like blowback isn't really the car or that killing kids doesn't really get people to have a, it's like it's just there's something about it that's so fundamentally it's like the most like a a priority is maybe not the right word. It's the most like thing that because you're a human being and you're thinking about other human beings, it's not like you're a human being thinking about a rock. You know, you're a human being. You're someone who exists as a human being, thinking about how other people exist. And you have a little bit of insight to that because you're a human being too, you know? And so it's the most

basic understanding that like, well, yeah, of course. Like anyone you're saying instinctually, it makes sense. And you're actually denying what we can all instinctively understand, which has also been proven to go with a different theory that this doesn't actually happen. Yeah. Like, well, also, if you just, you know, in America, right? In America, there was a bit, some people don't, some younger people may not know this, but there was this big in the, in the 1930s, in the late 1930s and the early 1940s, there was a huge anti-war America first movement in this country.

The America First Committee had like 600,000 members or something like that. And it was a huge thing. Try to keep us out of World War II. We do not want to go to World War II. They had a lot of public support and a lot of influence. And then we got hit on Pearl Harbor. And they fucking just folded completely. And they just stopped being a thing.

It was just like, now, dude, all that debate's over. We got hit. So now we're in the war. That's it. this is hitting a military target that's not even, you know, it's America, but it's not like even really America, Rob, you know what I'm saying? Like, it's like a military target out there somewhere, not even like really hit in the homeland. And that was our response. And then, of course, after 9-11, the country went totally mad, gave George W. Bush 90 plus percent approval ratings and a

blank check to fight whatever dumb war he wanted Elias into. And like, it's just such a crazy thing to go. So why do you think we have a monopoly on that? that feeling. Why do you think that we are the only ones who like, if you come kill some of us, we're going to snap the fuck out and go kill 10 times as many as you, of you? Why do you think we're the only ones who have that, that, that psychological, like basic operating system? Also, to see this as a non-variable, we went into this war pretending that we're liberating the Iranian people that were so against a regime being bad to their civilian population that if they're killing their own population, we've got no choice but to get involved and help those

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Let's get back into the show. It's unbelievable. And then, okay, he goes on to say in this part of the thread, lack of independent access to no full victim list being released. Yes, again, but the U.S. admits it happened. Okay, the school was reportedly on or near IRGC controlled land, further limiting transparency. Media cannot directly contact families.

Again, all of this just, oh, so it was like, oh, it was, it was a IRGC people's kids who got killed. Okay. I guess it's okay then. That's how we would feel that way in this country, right? You know, if our brave men and women, who everyone salutes and thanks for their service, we'd be like, it's cool to kill their kids, right? Because they're military or whatever exactly you'd consider the IRGC.

It's a, I don't know. Anyway, none of this has anything to do with the obvious point right in front of you. And there's nothing here I got wrong. There's no misinformation being spread. fucking the president spread misinformation when he said maybe the Iranians have a tomahawk maybe they got one from the Brits and they did it to themselves

just because we didn't actually play the Rogan clip what was the short on what you had said on Rogan that he's working to debunk here oh none of nothing here has anything to do what I said I said it turns out when you kill a bunch of people's kids it's it's uh if you want to

if you want to scroll up to the top you can play the clip probably would have made more sense to do that at the beginning if we were going to do it. But we can play that clip real quick if you want to. Is what Donald Trump said when he launched this war. He said, this is a regime change, and I'm calling on the great people of Iran to rise up. And they did.

They rose up by at least the hundreds of thousands. They were out in Tehran in defense of the regime chanting death to America. Because it turns out when you kill 165 little girls, that doesn't make a country go, we love you. Thank you for that. But before the bombing, there were people in the streets that were protesting. And people were killed because of that a lot. That's the other thing is that that regime is like they clamp down and they do it with public figures.

They killed a very prominent wrestler from Iran. They claimed he killed a few cops. That's what the Iranian regime said he was being hung for. Now, I don't know. The wrestler. Yeah, the wrestler. Donald Trump, when he launched this war and there's been a whole lot of just false claims that have been made. but he said specifically that they killed 32,000 protesters.

There has not been a shred of evidence presented to back up this point. The last I had seen was that I know. Just play a little bit more of this. One second. Play the rest of this part. We'll stop in a second. The government of Iran is before the Ayatollah was killed. They were saying it was something like 3,000 people had died.

Iran protest death toll could top three. 30,000, and this is from Time Magazine. I've just seen this movie play out a lot of times. You've got to be really careful about these accusations that are made in the run-up to a war. They're basically saying, we have a source who told us this. Time was unable to independently verify these figures. Listen, you can pause it right there. And then I go on to say the claim being made is that one of the greatest massacres in human history just happened.

Now, what he cut out there, I think, if I remember correctly, I've not watched the episode back, but I think, if I remember correctly, what he kind of cut out there was just more of me qualifying my statements, essentially being like, no, look, they said he killed a cop. I don't trust no Mueller court system, you know what I mean? So like, I have no idea if he did. I'm just saying that that's the claim they're making. And then this is the claim here. And then this evidence hasn't been shown there.

But I go out of my way, I believe, I hope I did. If not, I'll say here. But like, yeah, look, my whole fundamental worldview is that governments are criminal organizations. wars are at least between the government parts this is like um like like crime family wars gang wars or something like that there's no innocence there's no you know what i'm saying i don't trust that they're not so i'm not saying they wouldn't kill 32,000 of their own people i don't know how goddamn crazy a fucking mullah or an iatola with a goddamn the full force of a state behind it is maybe they would i'm saying it's an extraordinary goddamn claim now is

that. You're saying this one article we looked at said in two days, they killed 32,000 people. Dude, if you carpet bombed Tehran for two days, you may not kill 32,000 people. Like, this is a great. So where, what are we basing this on? What do we know? And then it goes, and a source said, if we were unable to verify. I think if, uh, if Tehran killed 32,000 people, it's tragic. It's not a reason why we should be going to war with them for regime change. And I think the point is, when they make claims like that to try and get Americans to feel like we have to go and take action, you should question if the information's even true because it's the war, fear porn that they use. Yes, it's a, sorry, sorry, continue.

No, you can take that on because I was going to make another point. Well, sure, sure. We'll keep it in mind. Well, it's, you know, and I was able to get this point out on Rogan, which I was happy, and I was able to give Keith Knight a nice shout out because I love that guy, and he's really brilliant. But this is the thing where Gad said, I think he coined the term suicidal empathy. And like, it's a pretty good term. It has good, like, you know, the stuff I always talk about in San Diego.

I go, I think that's a good example of like suicidal empathy. Like, you're so, you're so empathetic that you're not going to tell homeless people they can't shit on the street. Or you're so empathetic that you're just going to have open borders because, oh, these people have a poor life. But now you're ruining you and you're, you know, you're committing suicide through empathy. I think that's a good term. Keith Knight flipped it on him, which is such a good one, is he goes, all right, you don't want to have suicidal empathy. You also don't want to have homicidal empathy. You know, and that's what this is.

This is a great example of where they try to play this homicidal empathy. Don't you feel so bad for these people getting killed? Shouldn't you go kill some people? You know what I mean? And it's like, so I grant you, even if this was true, of course it wouldn't be reason to go for a war. Fuck, Israel just killed like 100,000 people. advocating we go to war with them like what you know what I'm saying like there's no but also there really isn't evidence that it's true and since I'm sorry since every last goddamn war was sold off of a

lie I'd like to see some evidence about these claims that you're making young man and so here's the sorry I'm sorry I'm sorry I forgot it annoys me that the internet is this stupid that anyone took this guy's tweet thread seriously enough or it generated enough numbers for us to take on because it's so wildly disingenuous to go, hey, I happened upon three minutes of this and there are wildly false claims. And firstly, it's not even just a random three minutes of the show that he wanted to take on.

It's an edited three minutes so that he can take random points out of context and say, hey, this one line here isn't true. And then not even address like the point of the one line and go, oh, he said 165, 165's inaccurate. Or here he said that, he can't even say it's inaccurate. He's just saying, well, that is.

what's being reported but we don't know it to be exactly that if he actually had good the levels of disingenuous here of what he concocted together and the people on twitter didn't instantly see through this is uh it just irritates me because it just showcases how dumb the internet is i just can't believe that people thought that this was worthwhile well it's not it's not just like a matter of people being dumb it's a it's a matter of people being um you know just dug in dug in on their side and so So when something happens and you see this happen to a lot of people, you know, when Glenn Greenwald or Tucker Carlson or someone like that goes out and they just make a really compelling argument against this shit and kind of exposing all of it.

The first thing people move to do is like discredit them or try to say they got it all wrong. And so someone wants this like, yes, okay, here's a point by point thing, breaking down all the misinformation. See, I was right about what I already believed. but the problem is that like look no look we'll get into some more of this here okay so from the part that we just played um this is number three the third uh in this in this thread he killed a few cops uh wrestler case in parentheses context matters am amnesty and iHR report that the trial lacked due process and relied on confessions obtained under torture um again and not only in the part i edit he edited out, but even in the part that he left in there, I was going, that's what they're saying. That's what they're saying. I do not know that this is true.

And I do not trust any Mullah system of justice, obviously. So like, I wasn't saying that. Wasn't saying the wrestler deserved to get hung. I'm just saying that like, this is what they're claiming they're hanging him for, is that they allege him and a couple other people killed some cops. And that's what he just said there in his tweet too. like there's no contradiction between me and him or whatever um okay number four trump 32,000 protesters killed. True is a quote. Trump did say this and reported by media outlets, but he was

citing external reporting and was not capital letters the original source of the figure. Well, did I claim he was the original source of the figure? No. And like what that has nothing to with anything. It doesn't matter. He said it. He said it as the commander in chief as he launched a war of aggression. He said they just killed 32,000 people. And I'm saying, what is the goddamn evidence that it was 32,000 people? That's quite a claim. You're alleging the biggest massacre in human, or one of the biggest massacres in human history happened in two days in Tehran and fucking, what do you got? What evidence do you have? That's a bold claim. The onus is on you to back it up. And it doesn't matter if it was out there in a newspaper.

That's like defending George W. Bush saying, well, someone had written that they had WNMDs. Because, yeah, but it's your job to make sure the claim is true before you sell it. Do you sell us a war based on it? I mean, what is this? This is what people are sending to me. Okay. So five, no shred of evidence for 32,000 killing. False.

Evidence exists, but is fragmented due to repression in Iran where independent. journalists and NGOs are restricted. Documentation relies on witness testimony, medical records, burial data, leaked I'm sorry, leaked documents, and cross-verification. Families are often threatened and prevented from speaking publicly.

Listen, I can't, man. You can't throw in families are threatened from speaking publicly and saying, like, that proves me wrong somehow, because you're speculating, that that's the reason why there isn't any evidence. When my claim is that there isn't any evidence.

Now you're just giving you're giving hypothetical reasons for why there isn't any evidence. Okay. I didn't argue with that necessarily. I don't know. It's pure speculation. Like, I don't know. I think, you know, if you killed 32,000 people in Tehran, there'd probably be a lot of evidence. Think about a city, like even a very big city.

Think about New York City. There's a lot of people there. I mean, Tehran's a big city. It's like 9 million people there. Imagine 32,000 people were killed. You know, and what are you guys even alleging, by the way, Rob? They never make it clear. Are you saying 32,000 people were killed?

Like, they were just mowed down, gun down. So then you're saying bodies everywhere on the streets. To get those type of numbers, bodies everywhere. The whole fucking place would be dead bodies. No one snapped a picture of that. You know what I'm saying? Not one aerial view. I know the internet was shut down for a little bit. We still got lots of images out of those protests. And then the ones we got are like ones with like a few body bags behind them. And like, okay, people died. No one's dying. People died. But anyway, so the thing he's basically saying here is that.

So what he's basically saying here is that no, no shred. I say no shred of evidence exists that 32,000 people were killed. And then he says, well, that's false. There are fragments of evidence. Yeah, meaning there's evidence people died, but there's not evidence that 32,000 of them died. And that's the claim I'm saying is false. And we said this on the Rogan show. Nobody's denying people died. The Iranian government is admitting people died.

They said something like 3,000 people. They also said that courthouses and police stations and fire stations, were in mosques were like burnt and attacked and that the protesters were violent. Also, the people in the West were claiming that the protests were on the verge of overthrowing the government, which would imply that, yeah, maybe there was some force being used there, Rob, right? If you're actually revolutionaries who are trying to overthrow a government, you might be using some force. And if I'm not saying the Iranian claim is correct, maybe the number is much bigger than that. But you're alleging it's 10 times bigger than what they said.

So when you say, oh, there's fragmented evidence. Yeah, there's evidence that people died. there's no question about that. The question is, is there evidence that there's 32,000? And the answer to that is no. There's not. Which means it could still turn out to be true. It's just there's no evidence or it hasn't been proven yet. And you're literally reasserting that when you say fragments of evidence and you couldn't possibly have all the evidence because the regime suppresses that information.

So in other words, the 35,000 has not been proven. So in other words, what I said. In other words, the president launched a war and told us something that he cannot verify is true. Right. And just to reiterate, it's not actually a good reason to go to war. And when people are playing the fear porn card, it's very reasonable to go, hey, do we actually have evidence that this took place? Yes. Yes, that's right.

Yes. And, okay, I mean, we can just kind of like stop there with it. I don't really know what to say. It's like it's every single point is just this easy to like debunk and shes. shoe aside but i guess there's just like look i'm it's not i i mean look maybe part of it is me being petty or something like that but i do think it's kind of like important for for someone in my situation to like when someone's going like oh they're taking down your shit like point by point here to respond and like show people that like no that's actually not happening at all like this is

this is nothing like start from scratch go over if you want to do a goddamn huge threat on me or even make a point or something, try taking on what I actually fucking said for once. Listen to what I actually said and say, is there anything wrong with that? Like, it'd be one thing if you go like, like if someone were to make the point and go, you know, like even what you said, like if they were to go, you know, Dave says we don't have evidence that it's 32,000, but you should also consider that like a RAND suppresses evidence and that's a big reason why we don't have a clear picture of whatever happened. like, okay, fine, that's a reasonable enough point.

But the conclusion would still be like, we don't really know. And I'm sorry, there's just way too many of these people who like, even in the, well, it was in the Time magazine article that I believe it was time that, that Joe pulled up on the show. They say in it, they go, it's a source in Iran tells us. So this is all based off a single source they have in Iran. Now, they don't even say like a source with access to hospital records or a source with access to more records or like something like that. They're just going like, we have someone there.

This is just, look, I don't know, guys, after being lied into like seven wars in a row, don't you see how easy it is for them to get away with saying something like that. And this does become kind of the racket of journalism. Like in journalism, you have to protect your sources because that's kind of like the cornerstone of journalism, you know? But then it also opens the door for very easy trickery. You just say, I have a source. And now you can run a story and no one can ever make you say who your source was, you know? Like you're just kind of in a position where you could say, I have a source here, I have a source there, we have this.

And then all it takes is having one, you know, one guy in Iran who doesn't like this regime very much, who's willing to lie. You know what I'm saying? Like I'm not even saying that's what happened here. But that's all it takes essentially to get these type of articles written. And I think, and this is a pattern that's played out many times with other wars. You know, the warhawks are aware of that. And they use people like that. Sometimes those people use Warhawks in a way.

You know what I mean? Like it's just, again, to my point, you have nothing here. All right, guys, let's take a moment and thank our sponsor for today's show, and that is Cove Pure. You know, when people think about health, most people think about supplements or diets or workouts, but they ignore the most important basic thing, and that is water. Even mild dehydration impacts, energy, focus, and metabolism. And when you think about all the garbage that's in our water, You're starting behind the curve before you even begin.

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But we will see, you know, I don't know if you notice, we don't even need to play the clip because is just too stupid, but Donald Trump tweeted, hey, everybody watch Mark Levin's show tonight. And then Mark Levin's show tonight was making the case for why we need ground troops in a round. And that sure is hell ain't a good sign. But I just, I, I'll say this. If there are boots on the ground here, if that is a reality in the next few days or weeks, And, well, I will say that, number one, this is going to be a disaster. This is going to be really bad if that does happen.

And number two, man, Rob, man, will that expose everyone who continues supporting this thing, who said all along, oh, there'd never be any boots on the ground. Of course, we'd be against that, too. If that does happen, then you're going to see like a major reveal of who's who in, in the whole media landscape. I don't know. What do you think? Well, I think everyone that ever said,

no boots on the ground was a mixture of wishful thinking or hoping to sell us into this thing and just wanted to get the ball rolling and was more than happy to change tune when it got there. Yeah, yeah. Well, I guess we'll see which one belong to which group there. And it's amazing because we basically have the out right now for negotiated settlement,

which is that Iran, retains or you know now has the toll road of the Hermos Strait and every other country so wants their oil they're happy to pay the toll versus having to go and fight Iran and Iran can now charge for that toll roll and get the reparations that it's looking for and of course the country that doesn't work for because that now means that Iran is not an agent of chaos and they have the ability to be rational and get along with the world and just do business with the rest of the world is Israel which means we're kind of still just fighting a war for Israel. Now you got a little bit more of a of American interest now because we've gotten into this mess of not wanting all of our oil partners to realize that they're in a worse place by us having bases over there or to what extent the petro dollar is really an influence on the American dollar but more transactions happening in other currencies.

So it feels to me like that mess is more easily resolved. the real thing that they just can't have is Donald Trump taking a loss or really us breaking up from Israeli interest. And so it's like we still just don't need to do this. We don't need to escalate. We could tomorrow. Donald Trump could get on the news and go,

guys, I got bad intel from the Mossad. We thought that this was going to, that this was our opportunity to overthrow the regime and we can make the Iranians a better place for the Iranians. I had bad intelligence, and we don't need to have multiple deaths or an escalating war. And so, yes, we're in a worse place.

But guess what? I think we can actually get along with these Iranians. And I think there's going to be more oil in the world and costs are going to come down. We've got some things to figure out. But I actually think we can make good here and just move on. But he's not going to do it. Well, I'll tell you, yeah, that's the thing, right? Is that you're right.

It does seem like, look, there's, if you just stopped now and declare victory or whatever, there's a chance that maybe fucking you could do it. you'd have to pressure Israel to stop and you know you'd have to hope that the fucking Iranians would take that deal and I think there's a reasonable chance that maybe they would because hey they are getting hit very hard and they you know that like to get that to stop and they have an easy way that they could claim it's a victory that's a but the thing is right very clearly Donald Trump doesn't want to do that right now and Donald Trump for whatever reason I mean I'm not saying if the Iranians came to the table right now maybe he would want to do that

But given the fact that they don't, he doesn't want to do that. Like he doesn't want to just stop and declare victory and say it's over, which he could. He could try doing that. And instead, he's in this horrible position, which is one of the things that gets, that gets countries sucked into wars, sucked into like more and more protracted, you know, conflicts, is that, and you see this everywhere, Rob, we were just talking about this, we were hanging out this weekend, but the fucking sunk cost fallacy of war thing really does like penetrate people's heads. And it is the worst goddamn form of the sunk cost fallacy, which is like an economic term, you know, for a thing where you go,

you know, if you throw money into a bad investment, you can't feel like, well, I'm this far in now, man. I got to keep this investment going. It's like, no, you don't. If that was bad money, don't throw good money after bad money. And, you know, the thing where it's like, if we leave now, our boys died for nothing. You know, like that's a real thing that really affects people. And no, it's like, no, the truth is those boys already died for nothing. And if you stay in this, more boys will die for nothing. And that's, you know, like, and I think it becomes a very dangerous thing when Trump starts getting into this game of like,

fuck, I can't call this a win yet. I got to do another thing and then we can call it a win, you know, and then does another thing. And they respond in a devastating way, and now we can't call it a win anymore. So we've got to do one more thing to call it a win. A month ago, you could have, I think it was reported, could have taken the deal,

and they would have wound down there in rich uranium from the 60% down to the 3% or whatever it's supposed to be and get back in the JCPOA. but you had to put the poison pill in there that they need to make themselves easier to invade in the future and give up their ballistic missiles and that they couldn't be an autonomous country and having rich duranium. And so you decided to gamble on a targeted strike and overthrowing the regime. It did not work. What's the pathway to victory here and what's still worth a gamble?

You've already lost ground. And I mean, what are we committing two million troops now to actually go in there and have a full World War III? I mean, are we doing a serious land invasion and you're going to pull a draft and we're going to somehow with this fat ass gay country? Is that what you're going to do? You're going to have an army of three million people and you think you're going to pull that off without a war declaration as you come into the midterms. You think the entire country so supports this war that you're going to rally the ability of the American people to get behind this. And then what happens when we get more terrorist attacks coming our way because you've done a land invasion of Iran? You know, it's just there's, I don't see any clear path to victory that's worth the cost here.

And even though this might be the, one of the biggest weakings of the American Empire and one of the worst strategic blunders that people still thought we were strong, Iran was willing to walk this back. And, you know, we still would have had full control over basically the oil business. It's a loss. Just cut the loss. And it's just nothing like, look, I mean, I've seen a lot of wars. I have never seen one like this early into it, not even two months into the thing. And this administration is just bumbling around, unable to give one coherent reason for why we're there or what's happening. It's over.

It's basically been one, but we're going to escalate. We're going to do our biggest bombing campaign. The government's already fallen. They don't have a government, but we got to get that straight on her moose open. Well, then who's closing it? You know, like, it's just like, what are you talking about, dude? None of it, it's just total, the level of incoherence by which they're selling this thing is, it's unlike anything I've ever seen. I think I've listened to a month of basically our, we own their skies and thanks to our targeted strikes, we've wiped out 95% of their munitions.

And then as to how it's like a self-regenerating last 5% that they continue to need to hit targets when there's only 5%. when there's only 5% left. And then just on Friday, there was a Reuters piece that we can only confirm that we've gotten rid of 30% of their stuff. Yeah, yeah. And that's confirmed. So who actually knows? But, you know, I thought we already won this.

I thought that this was already a one war. We already overthrew the regime. And they're completely annihilated and they've got nothing to hit us with anymore. And now it's a month later. And you're talking about that you need ground troops in order to push this thing forward and escalate it more. Well, that's right. there's there's different levels of risk to this particular conflict this is again this is it's it's

weird in a way because this is a war that like I've I've been opposing this war for 20 years not publicly for 15 or whatever we're really publicly with people listening for 10 or whatever it is um but specifically this war because this has been the neocons dream this was the seventh country on the list you know and it's always said for many, many years, right? It's like, okay, well, there's these different levels of issues, right? So the issue is, like, what's the outcome here? Okay, so the first real threat of the war with Iran, as we've always said, is that they can fucking touch the region, right?

That's the goddamn real issue here. And we've seen that play out. We've been proven correct on this after everybody laughed in our face for all, not everybody, but everyone on the bad guys team, laughed in our face since last summer about how, ha, you made it out like it was this big threat. Yeah, it turns out we were right. It is this big threat. It is a big regional threat.

And it affects the global economy and all this, right? But so then like, even if you somehow take out that, Rob, like, let's say we just do take out enough of their ICBMs and enough of their drones. And it's just like, you know, they can't really do this anymore. They can't really touch the region anymore. It's like, okay. So then you've weakened the regime to that point. point. What happens after that? How does the war wrap up? Does it wrap up with this regime still in

control with an Ayatollah and a group of Mullahs and an IRGC? And then we stop because if that's the case, the people are still equally oppressed, a lot more slaughtered than they were before with the same slaughtering type government that you claim they are left there to oppress them. And now they're more incentivized than ever to feel like they have to build up because they know Israel is going to be coming back now that they're in this weakened state. They don't have the, you know, missiles and defense and stuff like that. So that's a pretty bad outcome. And then of course, the other outcome is that you do end up toppling the regime at that point. And then, of course, as we've discussed forever, then, you know, you're dealing with options. And many of those options

are not good. And it's a real long shot, a crazy long shot in that scenario. think that something better or something positive is going to come from that. And it's much more likely that you create a Libya or a Syria, which is what Israel's plan is. They're quite happy with regime collapse here. And if that's the case, you know, you can call that a win, but how the fuck does any decent human being not animated by the Greater Israel Project feel like that would be great? Oh, now we turned it into Libya? I mean, And I don't know, maybe I'm missing something there, but these are the scenarios. All of them end in Donald Trump being completely ruined.

Cut your losses. Yep. Yep. All right. Thank you guys very much for listening to the show. We will catch you soon. Like I said, I will be on a plane tomorrow, so we won't have a show regular time tomorrow, but we'll figure out and make up all the episodes we owe.

Thank you guys so much for listening. A special thank you to everybody who subscribes over at part of the problem.com. uh rob what do we got coming up uh i think we got uh stanford connecticut on april 11th and then uh chicago after that and then uh down the calendar i don't know but i think that's our yeah our next that's right gigs it is uh april 11th one night only at new york comedy club in stamford connecticut and then uh april 17th and 18th in rosemont april 19th uh in chicago and then after that we got we got a bunch of stuff coming up Tulsa, Oklahoma City. We love that run, Rob. First time ever, we're going to Phoenix, Arizona, the Desert Ridge Improv.

Phoenix are fun crowds. That's a porch store. I've heard great things about Phoenix, and I've never done stand-up in Phoenix before, and I'm really excited to do a weekend out there. And then we'll be back out in Denver. We're doing the Comedy Works South and then doing a weekend at the Comedy Works downtown, maybe the best weekend of last year. Just one of the best weekends of comedy I've ever had was last year. We're doing both this year? Yeah, we're doing Thursday night. We're doing a show over at the other room.

And then Friday and Saturday, we're back in the downtown room. And then we got Houston, Huntsville, Alabama, Nashville, Tennessee, Fort Lauderdale, Appleton, Wisconsin, a whole bunch of stuff coming up. Comicadavsmith.com for all those ticket links. Thank you guys very much. And we'll catch you next time. Peace.