Part Of The Problem - The Most Pathetic Argument

Episode Date: June 4, 2025

Dave Smith brings you the latest in politics! On this episode of Part Of The Problem, Dave is joined by co-host Robbie "The Fire" Bernstein to discuss statements by both Bari Weiss and Scott Jennings regarding the recent antisemitic attacks as well as the connection to Israel and Palestine, Tomi Lahren's viral clip about "stay at home sons", and more.Support Our Sponsors:The Wellness Company - Spike Detox your body! www.twc.health/problem use code PROBLEM for 10% off + Free Shipping.Prolon - https://prolonlife.com/potpMonetary Metals - https://www.monetary-metals.com/potp/Better Help - https://Betterhelp.com/problem for 10% off your first monthPart Of The Problem is available for early pre-release at https://partoftheproblem.com as well as an exclusive episode on Thursday!ROB LIVE DATES HERE:PORCH Tour: www.porchtour.comVegas: https://www.wiseguyscomedy.com/nevada/las-vegas/arts-district/e/robbie-bernsteinHouston Texas: https://www.eventbrite.com/e/robbie-the-fire-and-friends-tickets-1335225899609Find Run Your Mouth here:YouTube - http://youtube.com/@RunYourMouthiTunes - https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/run-your-mouth-podcast/id1211469807Spotify - https://open.spotify.com/show/4ka50RAKTxFTxbtyPP8AHmFollow the show on social media:X:http://x.com/ComicDaveSmithhttp://x.com/RobbieTheFireInstagram:http://instagram.com/theproblemdavesmithhttp://instagram.com/robbiethefire#libertarianSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Hello, hello, what's up everybody? Welcome to a brand new episode of part of the problem. I'm Dave Smith. He is Robbie the fire Bernstein. We are live. We are all together in studio. You're back. That's right. Like a like a dysfunctional family that you know, has been separated for a prolonged period of time. There's some abuse allegations, but at the end of the day, we all still love each other, you know? Um, yeah, welcome back from the road. Thank you, sir. How your travels been going. Is Newark still almost, I've had a few weeks off here and I have not been

keeping up. Is it still, you don't fly into Newark? No, I fly. Well, yesterday was JFK. I had the greatest weekend out in Texas. All the shows were great, but it's go mode. It's wake up. He drives to the next location. It's getting after it. But I was joking last night that I think I just need to start like losing my shit earlier because the universe seems to want to push you to that breaking point.

And so I was smooth all day. It was, it was a long work day. And then I 95 at one 30 in the morning, long work day. And then I-95 at 1.30 in the morning, driving back from the airport, was just shut down for construction. I just sat on the highway for like a half hour after like the five hour plane ride in the sitting in the airport.

And I was like, all right, university got me. This is my breaking point and you found it. That is, yeah, that's rough. That sucks. But anyways, it was a great time out in Texas. Now I got a 10 days out West. So, uh, working backwards, Las Vegas, I'm playing the club out there. You can find that on their website. That's wise guys. Then me and you, Salt Lake City. Those were great shows last year. And then I got a Reno,

San Jose, Sandpoint and, uh, Portland. Nice. Nice. Nice. Yeah. Looking forward to, uh, to going back out to a Salt Lake City. Those, uh, the Mormons. Nice. Nice. Yeah. Looking forward to, uh, to going back out to, uh, Salt Lake city. Those, uh, the Mormons show up for us and they laugh at filthy stuff. They're so repressed. Yeah, no, they're dying for it. That's as close. Listening to Rob Bernstein's comedy is as close as Mormons are allowed to like experiencing happiness. So like that's the, that's it. They could only get through you.

I remember last year someone had told me some things just get bad information. Someone said, you know, that club makes you work clean and I go no one told me that and I don't have clean I I'm doing what I do. I hope that's not a problem. That is Rob working clean Yeah, you're watching right now So I showed up a little bit nervous that maybe it was a more conservative market and then I remember that first show I just told that some filthy soaking joke right up front and it was like a big blast I was like now these people rule. Yeah, I remember I some filthy soaking joke right up front and it was like a big blast. I was like, now these people rule. Yeah, I remember. Um,

I remember you saying something about that to me and being like, I just go do what you do. And like, but like I always, it's a weird, um, like it's a weird dynamic, but this happens a lot in comedy where sometimes the people who you would think or you're, you almost get in your own head and you're like, Oh, they're not going to like this filthy joke. But then the person who looks like they were actually loves it the most. You know what I mean? Cause like they kind of need that.

This is the only time they're getting that and you're bringing hope to these Mormons. I don't care what anybody says. Excuse me. All right. So by the way, I just, uh, some somebody just uh informed me on twitter earlier today But it was uh, people were sharing a bunch of the clips from my Chris Cuomo debate, which was uh, evidently A year ago. It's uh, like a couple days ago I think actually but I think it might be a year ago that like it was the clips were being posted But yeah one year anniversary of taking that man's soul. I've taken of claiming a Cuomo soul We need to get a fake fireplace place here and then like fake pictures as if we got the heads on the mantle

Yeah, oh, there you go. Oh the debate victims. Oh, I'll tell you who my next one is that I'm working on is Dave Rubin fun Because he was talking all types of shit about me. Um, and so then I challenged him and he, he said, you know, in some snotty, he was like, Oh, when I get back from that tiny little country that rules your mind or something, cause I guess he's in Israel, but he agreed to it trying to see if a Patrick bet David'll do that one. Another Cuomo style. I want to, I just thought for that one, it should be like a three hour live debate.

And yeah, I think that'll be, I think that one would be a lot of fun. I think people would enjoy it. Another head from the mantle. I like it. Dave Smith collection. Well, it's like, I don't know why. I mean, look, Dave Rubin's like a big enough guy. He's got millions of followers. He's got a big channel. Me and him were always kind of cool. Like we were never like friends, but we were always cool. And we've done shows and we've been at events together

and stuff. Always had nothing but nice things to say about me. And then of course, now, now because I'm on the wrong side in his view of the Israel issue, now he's just like, someone asked him like a question at some Q&A thing and they just asked him about what he thought about the debate with me and Douglas Murray and he just went on this whole thing

about he goes, Dave's an idiot, he doesn't know what he's talking about. And look, I'll allow a lot of people to say I'm an idiot who doesn't know what he's talking about. Fair play for most people. Not Dave fucking Rubin. like I'm sorry, dude Why specifically Dave like the fucking dumbest influencer in America? Like I mean listen, I know in general my rule of thumb which I'm trying to live by now is like I'm looking for formidable

Debate opponents like what I want to I want to debate like's the, who's the best you guys got on this subject. It was why I debated that Alex guy from Cato and he really is, I think like the best guy on the open borders libertarian side. He wore a suit and brought a folder and everything. Yeah. He's a suit and folder guy. You know, that's what, um, so I'm not, I'm trying to not just like, but then, so this is more in the, in the mold of like the Laura Loomer debate, but at the same time, you know, every now and then, if someone who's got a huge audience is talking crazy shit about me,

I feel like that's like, okay, so let's see, let's see who knows what they're talking about. Dave, how long are you in Israel for? Cause you got a lot of reading to do to catch up to know as little as I know about this shit. So let's go. You're throwing some good shit talk at him telling him that he's got Lord of Loomer status So well, he already agreed to it and I will shame him endlessly now if he backs out Which I think there's a chance he might but hopefully I was surprised that he even agreed. So like let's see what's up How many more till you get your hands on Ben Shapiro? How many more do you gotta take down?

I don't think Ben Shapiro will How many more do you gotta take down? I don't think Ben Shapiro will ever do it. I don't think he'll ever do it. That's my guess, but I don't know. Isn't it crazy, I know I've made this point before, but is it not crazy that he's never debated anyone on the topic? And tell me if I'm wrong about that.

Maybe Natalie, maybe just even if you just like Google search that real quick. I don't think, and I'm not saying like but you know a Rotating or like a student a 20 year old asking a question at college after a speech doesn't count But like has been Shapiro ever had a one-on-one debate against a competent opponent And while you're on Google if you can ask them if I should shave my arms, they look disgusting on this camera Nah, dude, you're killing it But you're fucking crushing it

Yeah college students, that's right, and then he said so there's the clip of which is what comes up as I can see on Natalie's monitor there But there's there's a clip where Rogan back in the day He was on Rogan and Rogan was like, yeah, I really love to see you debate Someone on this and then he says sure I'll do it Yeah, they're both on the same side of that issue that's not a fucking debate Yeah, they probably debated other things They probably debated other things and then talked about how they agreed about that shit or whatever. But yeah Who could talk fast and say less? debated other things and then talked about how they agreed about that shit or whatever. But yeah. Who could talk fast and say less

Who can talk faster and be more dishonest competition. But yeah, it's like, so I don't know. I doubt, I doubt he's going to do it with me, but I'm ready if he wants to. All right guys, let's take a moment and thank our sponsor for today's show, which is the wellness company. Have you been feeling off since taking the COVID vaccine? You're not alone and new research backs it up in a groundbreaking study, risk stratification for future cardiac arrest after the jab. Dr. Peter McCullough, who many of you know was an absolute hero throughout the

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There's one that you sent to me, Rob, that was, oh my God, difficult to get through. Uh, this one is, is also pretty brutal, but I, you know, seeing as how this was something, I don't know if I mentioned this on yesterday's show but the debate that I did on Pierce Morgan with Natasha blanking on her last name, but the international lawyer This was one of the things that came up in that debate by the way, it's out today So if you're watching this live, it'll be out in a few hours. I think at p.m. Eastern I believe it's out for those of you guys who are watching this

unlike YouTube or podcast whatever's it was out earlier this afternoon by the way I should mention if you do want to watch the shows live ad free uncensored and if you want access to the bonus show every week you got to sign up over at partoftheproblem.com thank you to all the good people I see here in the chat who have done so really appreciate it. And yeah, if any of you guys want to join that would be awesome Okay, so anyway this this kind of came up a little bit in our debate and then here the first clip we're gonna play is Barry Weiss Formerly of the New York Times. She's now with the Free Press, I believe is her organization that she started. And here is, she was on

with our dear friends, Joe and Mika on MSNBC. Seeing eye to eye with the hosts of MSNBC, of course. But here is Barry Weiss talking about the rise of anti-Semitism. And of course the, the, well, I don't know what, I don't think anyone actually died in Colorado. I was going to say the murders out there. Two people were murdered in DC. Did anyone die in Colorado or were they like set on fire or

whatever? I don't exactly know the details. I believe there were deaths. Okay. I don't remember, but okay. All right. So let's, let's play. Okay, maybe that's right, but okay. All right. So let's let's play Feels different Joe is if we think back five six years ago to the massacre that happened at the synagogue where I became a bat mitzvah Tree of life in Pittsburgh where 11 Jews were massacred There were two key differences. The first one is that the person that was radicalized seemed mentally deranged the first one is that the person that was radicalized seemed mentally deranged. The second thing is that there was universal condemnation and outrage by the

surrounding culture. It was front page news. No one had any trouble condemning it. No one had any trouble calling it for what it was, which was absolutely evil. So fast forward to these two recent attacks. The perpetrator in the case of the DC Rampage, the murder of Yaron Lashinsky and Sarah Milgram, two names that should be known to everyone in this country, but you will see no celebrities making videos, making sure that we know and say their names.

He was extraordinarily articulate. He was evil when you read his manifesto, but it was an incredibly coherent, if not morally upside down worldview. So that's the first thing. He was radicalized by a movement that has created a permission structure for violence and the hunting of publicly recognized Jews

in this country. The second thing is the unbelievable silence of the surrounding culture. And if not silence, open glorification on the part of some leftist groups that are celebrating this attack. That is the core difference that we've seen over the span of those five or six years.

And I think one of the things that's been so alarming to watch in this country is that since October 7th, the open anti-Semitism in this country has become more profound, not less. And I think it's profoundly unfortunate that people do not understand the history and do not understand that what begins with Jews does not end with Jews. Fundamentally what this is about is an attack on the rule of law, attack on the idea that individuals, minorities in this country should be safe, and fundamentally an attack on the West and on America itself.

What starts with the Jews doesn't end with the Jews. And the lesson of history, unfortunately, is people often don't realize that until it's too late All right, so there you have it from Barry Weiss. Um, I guess I would I would start by saying It's one of these examples where I feel like People kind of like they almost just make up the world that they're living in to suit their narrative Like I I genuinely don't know what the hell she's talking about when she's saying that people have Trouble condemning these attacks. I would describe them as pretty universally condemned I I don't know who I mean i'm not saying like you can't find anyone who has a crazy view and goes yes, that was great, but

There's about as broad a consensus as there is on anything It's probably up there with like pedophiles are bad that people go like yeah, you can't murder people You know, that's horrible to do that So I just don't think that's right. I don't think I mean obviously, you know, that's horrible to do that. So I just don't think that's right. I don't think, I mean, obviously, you know, it's a little bit strange when you see, like, you would look at, say, where the administration is. I mean, we're gonna stay on this topic

for a little bit here, but where the administration is on anti-Semitism, the amount of speech laws that have been passed, the amount of support Israel gets from this administration the last administration every administration Obviously, she's on MSNBC right now. The two hosts are completely agreeing with her I don't know how you can get from that to like nobody's willing to condemn this. It's like yeah It's it's horrible and nobody like I don't know. I don't think any reasonable person is defending this that might be a little bit of a tautology, but

I'm just saying like I don't think that's actually an accurate claim. It's kind of like when a lot of these A lot of the pro-israel people will say things like Nobody condemned october 7th when it happened the world couldn't even condemn that and you're like what world were you living in like I Everybody was condemning it. Everybody I know was condemning it. Everyone I see is condemning it In fact, I can't believe like for the first year It took like a full year of Israel's destruction of Gaza before the first question I'd get asked on every single interview would be do you condemn the Atrocity of October 7th like that?

It was just oh, you know and always be like, yes, of course. That's bad but Essentially Rob and and you know this right what she's engaging in which is also at one point what this international lawyer who I was a debate or this lawyer who I was debating on pierce morgan did was it is just And I really I can't express How much contempt I have for people who use this line of political argumentation? There is there is no lower form of political argument. No more dishonorable form of political argument then Um, there's an act of violence that's randomly

Committed and then i'm gonna say that you are actually the one who created the fertile ground For this random act of violence. It's just pathetic and that's what she's setting up here any any thoughts rob Uh, I don't like listening to her. I feel like i'm in trouble with my mom She does have that vibe Any thoughts Rob? I don't like listening to her. I feel like I'm in trouble with my mom So I'd like to start off by saying that I Think the better conversation to be had in this instance is the problem with the illegal immigration and the fact that people are in this country illegally Yeah, I mean that's and the other thing and I don't think you even need to have much of a conversation in regards to this particular instance of American anti-Semitism because this was a legal, a foreign national who was

living in the United States of America who shouldn't have been here. Not to be fair, not in D.C. but that is the case in the Colorado case. Yes, yes. No, I mean I think you're certainly right about that. I also do just think like, um, it's, it's remarkable to me that people like Barry Weiss, she could say with a straight face, you know, she, she can go, um, you know, okay, so there was this attack on a synagogue five years ago. It was universally condemned, but we've actually

seen, and she says, we've actually seen a rise of antisemitism since October 7th. And she says it as if like, it's like, well, look, you know, the Jews were like attacked and antisemitism has gone up since the attack as if there was nothing else there. Like you're just going to yada yada over the 20 months of the absolute destruction of a captive people. Like, I don't know, it's just too... It's also if you're trying to define or if your mind, you define being anti-Israel as being anti-Semitic, then yes, there's been a rise of anti-Semitism in this country.

But if you don't define taking a stance against Israel as being antisemitic, I'm not sure that there's a rise in antisemitism. And then furthermore, there's a, and we're gonna see another clip of this, but there's an even bigger problem of trying to pretend that being a pro-Palestinian actually makes you pro-Hamas. And they're really trying to blur these lines.

Yeah, oh, there's no question. I mean, it's, look, there is, there is nobody, nobody in America, you know, it's a little bit different in Israel. The dynamics a little bit different there, but there's no one who's critical of Israel in America, who has not been called an anti-semite at one point including Jews? No, you know what I mean? Like nobody has not been called an anti-semite. It doesn't matter how much you know

I said this at one point when I was on Rogan but I was like, you know the guys like Tucker Carlson and Thomas Massey get called anti-semitic by professional people in polite circles. These are people who have never once in their life said the Jews ever. They just never talk that way. They're just not like that. So, right.

Yes, if you're defining anti-semitism as, you know, they're know, I saw people calling Miss Rachel an antisemite. Who's Miss fucking Rachel? Who's Miss Rachel? Oh yeah, there's a good reason you shouldn't know. So Miss Rachel is, she does like children's programming. My kids watched her. It's like my kids have aged out of her a little bit. She's like for little kids.

But she does, it's actually really good. She does educational programming, but she does it with, she must have been trained as a speech therapist or something like that. But she does all these techniques that are actually really good for babies. It gets them talking and thinking. And then she does songs and it it's it's like a it's like a Sesame Street on YouTube, but uh, but better like scientifically better and She's enormously successful. It's like her views is you get into these things when you have kids

We like find like these shows on YouTube and you're like, oh, it's a cute little show We found and then you look at that. It's 80 million people have seen and you're like, oh, it's a cute little show we found. And then you look at the, and it's 80 million people have seen it. And you're like, oh, this is bigger than anything in the world. Um, so she's huge. She's like blew up parents love her because it's actually like, um, it's like quality programming for, you know, little kids. And she's clearly, um, a lefty. She never says anything political in her shows, but like her one of her partners is like a trans Person in there. Yeah, but it's not like they're playing like a Barney character. No, it's oh, it's a it's a

Check it's it's a woman who's like seem at least presents as Transgender but like that's never the topic. It's not like they're just singing songs and shit And it's less flagrant than when dudes are trying to be women, so. Yeah, we don't really have a problem with that. We're pro-Lesbo over here on this show. But, so anyway, nothing about it's ever been political, and she just was like, had I think a few posts

about how she's so sad for the babies in Gaza, because she loves kids, and she loves all kids, and like all kids have value. That's literally what she's so sad for the babies in Gaza because she loves kids and she loves all kids and like all kids have value. That's, that's literally what she's got. And then she did this thing, which I will say it literally, it just really got to me. Actually, this guy was crying when I saw this, but, uh, she did this thing where some, some little girl who got her leg blown off in Gaza now has like an artificial leg and she did a video with her where she like sang a song and the little

Mr. Rogers thing where they put on shoes together. No, no, they didn't do shoes, but it's really I mean it is You know, it's like it's the song that my kids used to dance to and so it's just they really got me But anyway, but anyway, that's it. They're calling her a Jew hater just for being like these babies like it's so insane You can't like but again, these babies. Like, it's so insane. You can't, like, but again, look, I would say, look, according to my Twitter feed, it does seem like there's been a rise in, like, whatever you wanna call it. Like, there's a rise in people, like,

talking about the Jews in a not very nice way. But again, it just, it seems to me to be baffling. Like it's when you're saying, okay after October 7th, we actually saw an increase in anti-Semitism and you're saying as if like the Jews get attacked and then you hate them more for being attacked and you're not pointing out the tens of thousands of dead babies since then like that's not gonna come up it's literally like on the level of like if you if you got I don't know you bring flowers to your wife and She goes I just got off the phone with your mistress and found out that you've been cheating on me for five years

I'm furious at you and you go I bring you flowers and you're furious me for five years. I'm furious at you. And you go, I bring you flowers and you're furious. That's your response to flowers. And you're like, you're just going to yada yada over that middle part. Like that was the whole thing. So like, I'm sorry, but like the the rise in criticism and hatred of of Israel and more broadly of Jewish people is very clearly a Result of this to deny that you'd have to be arguing. It's just a coincidence It's a gigantic coincidence that over the last 20 months. We've seen this increase and again as I've said before on the show I Don't think it's right to blame Jewish people for the crimes of a government like I think that it does not follow at all

I'm not letting those people off the hook those people have agency and they're responsible for for their actions or their words But you know Again as I've said before if a bunch of black people go into an area and just start Jumping people beating them up and mugging them. And this happens over and over again. Could you predict that the level of anti-black racism is going to go up, go down, or stay the same? It seems like a reasonable prediction that probably it'll go up a little bit. And that might be one of the costs of say black crime in a specific area,

is that people end up being more suspicious or hostile toward black people in general. Now that's not the appropriate response. It's not fair to blame a black dude who had nothing to do with that. But at the same time, you know, if you're going to like, look at this and not even address that factor, like sorry, you're not really having a real conversation now. You're just spouting propaganda. All right, guys, let's take a moment and thank our sponsor for today's show, which is Prolon by El Nutra. Prolon is a plant-based nutrition program featuring soups, snacks, and beverages designed

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and being less chewy. So just take it, follow our lead and just be less juicier and then people won't dislike us as much I mean it is you know in life in general just being cool goes a long way It's like just be cool. That'll probably help but and if that's not in the cards for everybody All right, this next clip you said this one was tough to get through. Um, but so Scott Jennings, um, who I've always not particularly cared for, nothing against him personally. Uh, I don't know that much about him. I know that he's a Bush era Republican and I tend to just kind of dismiss those guys

You know some forms of prejudice are Necessary and you just at a certain point you're like, I can't you know, I can't Memorize everybody's fucking you know history, but there's something about him what I don't care for and this is a there's there's a you know a larger dynamic which we've talked about on the show But this was true kind of throughout all of woke ism where there would become these like conservative fire brands who would rise up because they're taking on woke ism and Then it's almost like because people like that. They're dunking on these people You almost like they get a free pass on whatever awful views they may have or whatever awful track record they may have.

You know, you think there's lots of examples of this but where people will be, you know, it's like, okay, I think like trans ideology is kind of crazy. And I think that the way that it was pushed on society was appalling But then you'll have some you know conservative who's like, you know was was Lecturing every but was supporting lockdowns was supporting the wars was lecturing everybody to take their kovat vaccine was say You know like all just terrible and everything but then they'll be like, you're not a dude, you're a chick. And I'm supposed to give this person some type of credit for that. Like, I'm supposed to be like, oh, this guy's really nailing it.

Like, you got the most simple thing right and everything that matters wrong. And so I do. I'm not saying this is exactly the case with with Scott, but I do think that it's like he sits around on these CNN panels with the dumbest fucking people making the most pathetic arguments. And then everyone's like, look, he owned the room and it's like, yeah, you put anyone competent in there and they're going to own that room. It's like, I don't, I'm not impressed. Um, but anyway,

he's become the guy who is like the only thing that's consistently going viral on CNN is him destroying all the libs. Um, anyway, this was, uh, this was, uh, from, from, I don't know, Rob, you sent this to me, but where is this yesterday? Something? It's pretty recent. Um, we're back to Jake Tapper. Yeah. Oh, that's right. All right. There we go. All right. So let's play the let's let's play this clip.

No further ado. And what more do we need to see, Jake, before we realize this free Palestine movement is nothing more than a domestic terror organization right now. I mean, we had the killings in Washington a couple of weeks ago. We had this issue in Colorado. We've seen, you know, the activities on college campuses now for months and months and months and months. The rise of anti-Semitism in America,

the rise in the number of people who have come to America who hold anti-American views, anti-Western views, and anti-Semitic views and are now willing to act on it. It is absolutely outrageous. And I think as a society, we need to understand, we are dealing with domestic terrorism. It's growing more violent by the day and if we don't deal with it these kinds of things are going to keep happening in cities all over the place it's awful and we need to come to grips with the fight

that we're in right now in America fight for the future of our country and the future of Western civilization in my opinion David Axelrod? Yeah, no, listen, Jake. I'm the son of a Jewish refugee who escaped. His home was blown up, and he escaped from actually Ukraine back in the day and came here to seek refuge. And so, you know, I feel very, very deeply. I haven't come to this lately. I feel very deeply very deeply, I haven't come to this lately, I feel very deeply about this issue. And I think questions will be asked

about how this guy tried to get a gun, he was refused the gun because he was not supposed to be in the country and nothing was done about that. I think that is a fair question to ask. But we also, when I was in the White House, it was the FBI who kept close tabs on all of this stuff. I don't know why they failed there. And I think, and I'm worried a little bit about what's going on now, because there's a shift away from that work to other kinds of work. And I think it makes us more vulnerable. So there are serious, there's

there are serious questions to be asked about this. I don't think it's the occasion for sort of blanket condemnation of everyone who may feel critical of the Israeli policies in Gaza, but certainly I agree with Scott that it's alarming to see this uptick in anti-Semitism, which you know, Jake, has been going on for years, even before October 7th. All right. So, I mean, look, I don't know, we can get into this a little bit,

but what Scott Jennings is doing there is exactly what I just said about Barry Weiss. It is, there is no lower form of political argumentation than saying and I made this point on on the Pierce Morgan show where I was like, hey, Pierce, like, you know, I've been coming on your show now for the last two years pretty regularly. I'm on the show just about once a week or something like that. Maybe once every other week. But come on, I've been on Pierce Morgan show many times at this point. And I go, hey, there was an incident where,

I don't know if you even remember this Rob, there was a guy in Florida, a Jewish guy, who shot two people because he thought they were Palestinian. Now, ironically, they were Israeli. But regardless, he shot them because he thought they were Palestinian, and this, he shot them because he thought they were Palestinian. And this was in his own words.

And I go, you might notice I never brought that up and then laid that at the feet of the pro-Israel opponent of mine because it's just pathetic. And I said, I'm a free market libertarian capitalist. I don't like democratic socialism. But when that Bernie Sanders fan went and shot up the congressional baseball game,

I never brought that up in a debate with a socialist, like, aha, you see, your views lead to a world where some guy did this and that, because it's fucking pathetic. And I feel like a gross human being if I ever used that line of argumentation And it's no different than what they're doing right now and like the idea that

People who are Supporting the Palestinians are a terrorist organization for the crime of like a terrorist organization for the crime of like chanting a phrase you don't like or something like that. This is utter madness. Just insanity. And again, you know, I don't know enough about like the culture on college campuses today. I'm sure there's lots about it that I would not like. And I'm sure that if I were to just grab the average college student, and let's say we just grab the average college student who's at one of these protests and we brought him

on the podcast, we talked to him for three hours. I'm sure that me and you, Rob, would have a very different worldview than that college campus protester. But I also just don't trust any of these kinds of things You rob would have a very different worldview than that, you know college campus protester But I also just don't trust any of these kind of like blanket Condemnations, I don't trust the media's characterization of these I do just know look I know that there's been a ton of Jewish students who are down there protesting with them And in fact as I've mentioned before on the show

I know that they had a a Passover Seder at the Columbia project, which are supposed to be like the worst ones. And they had a Passover Seder with the Jewish students and Muslim students all doing it to all, you know, doing their little Seder together. I don't know. It doesn't seem like the motivating factor there was a hatred of Jewish people, but it is like it's just incredibly dishonest to frame the the the issue this way and it's a very dangerous precedent for the government to now be saying that I mean

like if you really think about this is like if you protest because this isn't just an Israeli destruction of Gaza this is an if you protest because this isn't just an Israeli destruction of Gaza this is an American foreign policy these are our bombs that are being dropped on children and you're going to say now that if the American people want to protest their government's foreign policy by by protesting it they are labeled terrorists Like this is the guy i'm supposed to be impressed with on cnn And you get what i'm saying about how you just and anybody who's a george w bush republican You just immediately hate them. That should be your starting point hate them because what are they they're this They're the people who when it when it actually matters are going to say yeah protesting your government makes you a terrorist

It is wild to me Rob, wild to me that right wingers did not learn this lesson after January 6th. That you really that's the precedent you want to set? That the people who oppose the regime can be labeled terrorists? You realize they just did this to you. Alright guys let's take a moment and thank our sponsor for today's show which is Monetary Metals, an amazing company. I've been telling you guys about them for years. I love the guys who run this company and they have really revolutionized the precious metal space. If you own physical gold or silver but you're just it's just collecting dust at home or worse you're

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to talk about prosecuting crimes and getting criminals when they engage in crime. Domestic terrorism, government pitches us on the fact that they can govern. And then all of a sudden things get sloppy and they turn around and they go, well, we can't actually govern unless we take away people's rights. And so the way that we're gonna actually do police work is instead of catching people when they're committing crimes

We're gonna create this terrorism title and we're gonna remove rights because then that's the only way that we can actually This threat is so great. We can't actually do it through our criminal process We have to escalate it to a title of terrorism Which but the idea is that you're like admitting that you can't actually govern properly right and so and and the domestic terrorism we played the clip on the show when they tried to That the guy who had worked at the FBI was trying to say that the January 6 people were domestic terrorists and all of that Just leads to well who falls into the category of potential domestic terrorists And what kind of rights are you then removing to police their behavior?

Are they actually committing crimes? And if you want to take it and stretch it that far to people who are pro-Palestinian, they try and blur the line that that means that they're actually pro-Hamas, and that even just being pro-Palestinian now makes you a terrorist, so are we now censoring your speech on the internet? And listen, there was that case with a kid in Columbia who had his green card revoked. I don't even remember where that ended up happening,

but he had a green card and he was married to a US citizen, had a child in America. Now it could be that that guy took part in violent organizations at Columbia. It could be. And they were saying that he was pro organizations at Columbia. It could be. And they were saying that he was pro-Hamas. It could be. But it could also be, when you start hearing this rhetoric,

that the guy was just pro-Palestinian. Those are two different things. I don't know. I just I don't like. I hate the concept of domestic terrorism title, because I could easily see that being applied to myself. And so I just don't like the idea of government stripping my rights and censoring more than I already have been.

And this is just so flagrant right here. And you see the danger of it because of being pro-Palestinian makes you pro-Hamas and makes you a terrorist. So firstly, I'm going to assume that all of your speech is going to be censored. So that's just the end of free speech on this issue. But where does it go from there? If you're at a pro-Palestinian rally, you've just now outed yourself as a terrorist?

Are you rounding these people up? What's the actual application to him of this new title of, in theory, if I gave you control of the government right now and you said that these people are terrorists Are we sending them to get mo what exactly are you prescribing? Yeah, you know, look I completely agree with Everything you're saying and I would just add that You know look as no Chomsky said I really think he got this right was he was like the only coherent definition of this right was he was like the only coherent definition of terrorism is that it's terrorism when they do it and it's

counterterrorism when we do it. You know, like you want to sit here and say that like, I don't know, uh, invading Iraq wasn't terrorism or you want to say that us dropping drone bombs on weddings in, in Yemen is not terrorism Like okay, but really all you're left with is like well because it was done by us and by a government and what? Therefore it's not terrorism you want to say that the IDF isn't a terrorist organization Again, there's no just like give me the objective Definition and you explain to me what it is

What is it targeting civilians? What do you think by the way? There's one of the things I was arguing with this lady about the other day Which is so crazy is that she's I think I'm gonna mention this on the show yesterday but that she's arguing that oh wasn't fucked up for Israel to Not let any food in because Hamas had the food and they were just hoarding it and you're like, right So then who are you keeping the food from not Hamas? You're targeting the civilian population By the way, there's been I mean if you want to go through like go to anti war comm and just search through the last two years there's been

Example after example after example where civilians were targeted. I mean civilians rushing to get aid getting shot at Children being snipered, you know, like all types of examples of civilians being targeted and so You know what this comes down to in a weird way is that it's like In order to have the world worldview that every single like Israel supporter has the in order to have it as I've been making this case for almost two years now and I think I've you know like done a pretty good job of demonstrating it you have to on some level believe that like the Palestinian life is just worth less if it's worth anything at all. It's

just not worth as much as Israel and you can see this in the rhetoric where look even these these two people you know in DC let's say who got killed and right after it it's like the way people flip out like and and rightfully so I mean like two fucking people got killed it's goddamn horrible like those were real people you know what I mean like they were people got killed. It's goddamn horrible. Like those were real people You know what? I mean? Like they were as real as any of us were they had people who loved them They have people who are still grieving who will never be made whole because these two people were taken out of their lives It's horrible But from the perspective of like all of us we're like, yeah

That's why we're against this policy because like so many people are being killed But they don't see it that way like they don't they just don't but the I the problem is that like Even if you don't see it that way if you just think Israeli life is more valuable than Palestinian life American life is more valuable than Palestinian life Okay, but you have to at least recognize that not everyone's gonna look at it that way particularly Palestinians, but you have to at least recognize that not everyone's going to look at it that way, particularly Palestinians, but a lot of people around the world just are not going to look at it that way. It's not the most listen, I understand where say Jewish people have more feeling toward Israel than they do toward other countries. I understand why Americans care more about Americans than they do about foreigners. I understand why you know

Christian Europeans might have more Of a connection to other Christian Europeans or to Americans or Canadians or whatever There's like a little bit of a shared culture and history there But then at the same token if you're're going to say that, then what do you think? Like, wouldn't you see where like a random Muslim might have more of a connection to Palestinians than he has to Israelis? Anyway, I say all of this to just make the point that it's the old Ron Paul point.

If you think that we can just do this to people and pay no price for it, like that you can just engage in a goddamn genocide and fund and arm the whole thing. And that that's not gonna inspire hatred. And that nobody out there is gonna go, well, I'm gonna grab a gun and go do something about this. I think that's a very naive way to look at the world. And like, so in effect,

this isn't removing responsibility from anyone But this is one of the costs of this policy is this type of like, um Chaos and it's not good. It's not good for anybody. Um, all right, let's uh, Let's let's switch gears a little bit here because I did want to play Um this video is a little bit maybe outside of our typical wheelhouse But actually it kind of relates to a lot of stuff that we talk about a lot. But there was this clip of Tommy Lauren on the Laura Ingram show that's been going super viral for obvious reasons. Once you see the clip,

and there's, there's, there's a lot here. I found this very interesting. Basically, Tommy Lauren is trashing men, particularly young men. We're about to play the clip. Now, there is something about this kind of like the battle of the sexes type content that just gets a big reaction out of everyone.

There's something like women venting about men is something that women tend to like enjoy, you know, like, Oh my God, men are trash, right? Oh my God, yes. Men are everyone who's had a bad experience with a man now can like get on board this. And there is something that, um, men, particularly when there's like an attractive woman bashing men, men love to like hate that content. Like it's, it's like catnip for the sexes. And I will preface by saying that I think, um, I've always thought it's one of my

biggest, uh, objections to feminism. Broadly speaking, I always think the battle of the sexes shit is, is wrong and bad for all of us. Like it is just not the role. Men and women are not natural enemies. We are so clearly like yin and yang. We're here for each other. We help each other. We make each other's lives better. And anytime that people are getting into this like, no, it's all men's fault. No, it's all women's fault. I always think like you're just missing the point entirely. But anyway, let's play the clip and then we can discuss a little bit. It's a major problem.

And you know, Speaker Johnson has been talking about those maybe deadbeat folks that are on Medicaid and maybe some of those folks are the stay at home sons. We don't know. But I'll tell you this, leave it to Gen Z to rebrand laziness and social awkwardness as something cutesy, like a stay-at-home son. They did much the same thing with quiet quitting, where you can go to work and do less. And if you call it quiet quitting, it's somehow better. But, Laura, I got to tell you, this is also a big problem when it comes to, I think, declining

birth rates, people not getting married and having children. You know, that's a big problem. They blame it on women. Well, look at what young women have to choose from. The pickings are slim. Yes, we might have a feminism problem in America, but it's the feminization of men. There are a lot of young women out there that want to get married. They want to have kids.

They want to have stable families. But there are a lot of young men out there who want to live in mama's basement In order door-dash and therein lies a big part of the problem It's a major. All right so look there's a lot here and There's also of course a lot of policy that has to do with with this outcome

I will say it is hard to not like the kind of lack of self-awareness from someone like Tommy Lauren, who like, let's just, you know, like, like I said to you before, like, I've never thought she was like particularly good looking or whatever, but like, she's an attractive woman. She's where she is because of her looks like that. I don't think that's like an out-of-line thing to say Tommy Lauren it was never like whoa the depth of knowledge that Tommy Lauren brings to a discussion is just why in her 20s she was like a successful millionaire it's like you you were like you you played that game you got lots of doors open to you because you were a young attractive woman. Now, she's a woman in her 30s who does not have kids and is talking about the problem with plummeting birth rates and then blaming others for it. And I will say that I think part of the reason, and we get into some of the more substantive

like policy stuff, but part of the reason why stuff like this is infuriating to men in general is number one Uh, it's what she's saying is actually not true and there's a bunch of social science on this It's uh men actually are more likely young men are more likely to want to get married and settle down than young women for whatever reason These days I was surprised by that myself But this is a thing that I think almost everyone, I think every guy knows this and I think most women who are you know honest or have a little bit of wisdom and a little bit of experience in life know this too. It simply is not the case It simply is not the case that there are slim

Pickens or there are no good men who want to settle down the the issue is that Tommy Lauren doesn't want any of those men There the every every woman has guys who are like in the friend zone who would be really good to you But what happens to a lot of women is that they just have higher expectations than that and they're like no I don't want that guy. I want the guy who is X Y & Z Like you want this guy who's like a top one percent or guy and like okay, that's fine to want that But then the question might be Well, look, I mean like what are you bringing to the table? Because the thing about the guy who you want who's like at the very top is that that guy has options. That guy's got lots of options.

And so like maybe you're not bringing anything to the table that makes that guy want to marry you. But the truth is that I just do not believe that Tommy Lauren over her over say the last 10, 15 years has not had lots of decent guys who would have loved to be committed to her. And so I'm just saying like if you want to talk about plummeting birth rates, if you want to talk about you know like the feminization of men or whatever, it's like is there ever a conversation that should happen about the unrealistic standards of women? Because like I gotta say I think that's a part of this dynamic. I'm not saying that that's all of it,

but it's like, no, the truth is that if you're not kind of like shallow and materialistic, it's unbelievable by the way, you know, they have, um, you know, there's that, the whatever podcast and the fresh and fit podcast, they both like blown up cause they do a lot of this, like, you know, content like this type of stuff. But I will say now they're not, neither of those shows are my thing, but there is something interesting that they've become so big. And there one thing that I've said, cause I've seen like some of the clips, um, it is when they'll interview these young women and they ask them what they want

in a guy and they just start describing all of the characteristics and then they'll tell them what percentage of society fits those cats. You know, like, so just be like, well, I want a guy who's like six foot tall and you know, I'd like him to be a good looking guy. I'd like him to be a funny guy. Um, it's important that he makes at least six figures. It's important that he, but I'm like the list, all these things. And you're like, yeah, that's 0.03 percent of men fall into that So you are now so yes, it's true that if you're only interested in the top point oh three percent of men

It's slim pickings Yes, but like okay, that's true for everybody that's true for men, too If men were like I'll only date a supermodel. Yeah, that's kind of hard to find men were like, I'll only date a supermodel. Yeah, that's kind of hard to find. But if you have more realistic standards, it's just not, I don't believe it's the case that like it's impossible to find a decent person. I just don't buy that. Today's show is sponsored by BetterHelp. As I've told you guys before, I personally have benefited from therapy in the past and I know a lot of people

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month. That's B-E-T-T-E-R-H-E-L-P dot com slash problem for 10% off your first month. Alright let's get back into the show. Anyway, any thoughts on any of this Rob? Because we could get into some of the more actual substantive stuff about why it might be that young men are living in their mother's basement. Well, in defense of stay at home and live in the basement men. Well, you live on your own.

I do now, I didn't always. But I will say that I think for most of those people they're currently being a loser. And I don't think they like that. I don't think that's what they're looking for. I think some of them might have even settled into the lifestyle. You might have the rare, autistic one

that really loves his video games and wasn't going to get a job. But I'm going to guess by and large, most of those men, if there was a clear path towards a job and pursuing a family and all those things, I bet that they would like that, and I bet some of those people are even currently looking for jobs.

And I think as a young man, it takes some time to get it together. I was a loser for a long time. And sometimes there just aren't job opportunities right out of the gate. And you kind of settle into that there aren't job opportunities right out of the gate. I don't think most of the young men you're describing left college and when this is my dream to go move back home. And then we're at home and started ordering. I bet if you spoke to most of those men,

they enjoy the time when they're drinking or the couple times that they're out with their friends playing video games, but I'm guessing by and large they haven't gone, hey, this is the life and I hope that this is what I'm doing forever. Yeah, I mean, look, it's not that there's nothing to her point, there has been a feminization of men.

I don't think that's good for men or women. I blend with fluoride. It's clearly a part of it. Well, I don't drink no fluoride and look at me. I'm pure plastic, baby. Yeah, there you go. Plastic particles. And look at us, just poster boys of pure masculinity.

But like, so I'm not saying there's nothing to that, but I do agree with you. I think by and large, like, I don't think too many people want to be adults who are living in their mom's basement. I think that it is more born out of financial necessity. And it's not a coincidence that when we lived in a society where a guy could just go wait online and get a job at a factory and that job could support a

family that that's what they went and did. And there aren't opportunities like that as readily available. And so now that's not what people are doing. I think that obviously there has been there's been government policies that have drastically driven up the price of education, the price of real estate, the price of health insurance, the price of, you know, like all of the things that you'd need to be able to afford in order to support a family. You know, I I also think that Through laws We've made marriage a much less desirable situation for a man to be in

Than it otherwise would be and for you know for many many Generations, for probably hundreds, if not thousands of years, essentially for better or worse, I'm not saying this is perfect. Um, but the way that society kind of channeled, uh, men into marriage was through a series of incentives. into marriage was through a series of incentives and a lot of them were were sexual but not all of them but in general for a very long period of time out of wedlock sex was very demonized and stigmatized and this what the idea

was for men if you want to get laid you got to commit to a woman and I will say when you're talking about young men you're talking about men in their 20s channeling there if you want to get laid you have to do these steps you can get men to run through walls you know what I mean you can get a lot from young men if you channel this is how you go about getting sex on top of that the reward for men after getting married would be that you get to be the man You're the man of the house father knows best you will be the leader you are These are the type of incentives that men respond to

Almost every guy wants to be the man to some degree in his own little realm and we kind of degree in his own little realm and we kind of One by one stripped all of these incentives away Like now men are in a situation where like particularly by the way The men who tommy lauren is going to be interested in because you can already tell like By the nature of her complaint that it's like you're picky about who you want to be with which is fine I'm not saying you can't be i'm just saying there is reality. And now, for those women who are going after the 0.03% of men, when you're going after them, it's like those guys have tons of options.

And they don't have to get married to get laid. They could just get laid all the time. Now, right away, look, you're just fucking with the incentives of young men. Because now, right away, look, you're just fucking with the incentives of young men because now right away the, the sexual incentive is no longer to get married and settle down. The sexual incentive is like, don't get married and settle down. Now you can play the field and have sex with lots of girls.

And like that's what men are biologically wired to do. And so it's just like a bad, but then on top of that, I mean, the financial, you know, there was one a, a clip I saw where Andrew Schultz had a, uh, like a bad but then on top of that, I mean the financial, you know, there was one a clip I saw where Andrew Schultz had a like a divorce lawyer on and the way he said it I thought was actually very reasonable So he was like he goes look in if you look at marriage as a contract Right like most marriages that I I know he said something along the lines I might not get it exactly right, But he basically said that like, okay, so like there'll be, let's say you have like a marriage.

And so the deal is essentially that it's like the guy's like, okay, I'm going to go, I'm going to go work and make money to like support our family, having a nice lifestyle and like you're going to like, you know, bear children, um, deliver children, you know, you're going to be a mother, you're going to like, you know, bear children, um, deliver children, you know, you're going to be a mother. You're gonna, you know, whatever you were going to have sex, we're gonna, you're going to cook or clean or whatever. I'm not saying like it has to be like the strictest traditional marriage,

but like more or less this is kind of the deal, but the contract of marriage is only enforceable on one end Like the man is responsible to fulfill his obligation Even if the contract is void even if the the marriage is off and the woman is not at all There's no she does not if you get divorced you have to continue to financially support her but she doesn't have to continue to be nice to you or have sex with you or even be the Type of mother that you want continue to be nice to you or have sex with you or even be the type of mother that you Want her to be or any of that so you like created this situation where it's a big risk for men

You know particularly if the type of men that someone like Tommy Lauren is gonna be into is probably like a dude Who's got some money and then there's like it's a huge financial risk now So I just don't like if you want to just sit here and demonize men like all men are shit It's like, you know human beings are fucked up creatures And so we're all we're all a mess, you know And because of that it's easy to demonize men or demonize women, you know It's like you could always find the the character flaws in people and then be like, yeah, look at them. They're terrible But it but you know all those things considered and the fact that

we're all messed there's just lots of there's lots of good people out there there's lots of good people who would treat someone right it would be a nice person to like start a life with and this type of energy is just fucking toxic and again it's like it's it's like say this a lot, but it's almost like with anything else, if you're going, you know, if you're a comedian and you go on stage all the time and you're never getting laughs and you're like, man, all the crowds are terrible. Well, it's like, that's convenient, you know, and to see Laura Ingraham and Tommy Lauren, like these two unmarried childless women sitting here

and bitching about men it's like that's also pretty goddamn convenient pretty goddamn convenient that the problem is everything except you you know just a thought alright we're gonna wrap up there thank you guys very much for Thanks for watching!