Part Of The Problem - The Russiagate Criminals
Episode Date: July 22, 2025Dave Smith brings you the latest in politics! On this episode of Part Of The Problem, Dave is joined by co-host Robbie "The Fire" Bernstein to discuss Tulsi Gabbard announcing that the White ...House will investigate and prosecute those responsible for Russiagate, the renewed conflict in Syria, and more.Support Our Sponsors:The Wellness Company - Brighten your SMILE with The Wellness Company. First-ever peptide toothpaste for whiter teeth and restored gums. Fluoride-free. Click http://www.twc.health/problem and use code PROBLEM for 10% off + FREE Shipping!MASA Chips - https://www.masachips.com/DAVE Kalshi - https://kalshi.com/daveRidge - https://ridge.com/potp10Part Of The Problem is available for early pre-release at https://partoftheproblem.com as well as an exclusive episode on Thursday!ROB LIVE DATES HERE:PORCH Tour: www.porchtour.comFind Run Your Mouth here:YouTube - http://youtube.com/@RunYourMouthiTunes - https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/run-your-mouth-podcast/id1211469807Spotify - https://open.spotify.com/show/4ka50RAKTxFTxbtyPP8AHmFollow the show on social media:X:http://x.com/ComicDaveSmithhttp://x.com/RobbieTheFireInstagram:http://instagram.com/theproblemdavesmithhttp://instagram.com/robbiethefire#libertarianSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
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was a fun episode. So, okay. So let's for today's show, I think this is a, there's a
couple of big stories that I haven't really commented on publicly yet. So I wanted to
do that. And then of course,
get your thoughts as well, Rob. But I guess the let's start with the investigation into Russia
gate. Tulsi Gabbard, the director of national intelligence. Of course, it was reported,
what was it a week or a little over a week ago, it was reported that the Justice Department had
opened a criminal investigation into James Comey and John Brennan.
These were the CIA and FBI directors respectively under Barack Obama.
And the investigation was about the origins of,
of Russiagate. Since that time, uh, Tulsi Gabber, just the other day,
the director of national intelligence, um,
she released a trove of documents, um,
alleging that there was, um, that this was, uh,
I think her words were a treasonous conspiracy led by Barack Obama,
um, which is a pretty bold claim. And so anyway,
I want to get into that claim a little bit and talk about it.
Cause I have poured through some of these documents that she,
she put out there and there is some interesting stuff there for sure.
So I think, I think it's interesting to discuss all of it,
but I guess the first thing you gotta say,
it's almost impossible not to,
is that this just seems like an obvious attempt
to throw the scent off Epstein. And it,
it almost feels like, and obviously I'm speculating a little bit here,
but like the timing is pretty obvious. Um,
but it seems like they kind of know on some level,
obvious. Um, but it seems like they kind of know on some level,
I think they know what we've been talking about for the last few episodes is a real phenomenon. Um, Donald Trump just, I think it was yesterday.
It might've been earlier today. He, I don't know if you saw this,
but he posted about how his approval numbers haven't gone down from the Epstein
thing and how it's really not a big deal.
And it's just this dynamic where you're like, yeah, but dude,
you posting this totally disproves your claim. Like who,
what issue ever does Donald Trump ever talk about?
Like why would he even be talking about an issue that didn't hurt him at all to
prove that it actually didn't hurt him? It's like, yeah,
you're talking about this because actually you,
and I think a lot of the people around you are concerned about it.
And it seemed like they needed something else that had that kind of,
um, that a lore of we're going after the elites,
we're going after the deep state, we're going after the real criminals who real,
like it's like they,
they know on some level that their whole existence
has to, it's predicated on,
on being justified by some of that spirit, having some spirit of,
we're bringing down the real deep state criminals that's coming, you know,
so stick with us cause that's coming.
And it does seem like that's the purpose that this serves. Now, just to be clear,
I'm not saying I'm against this. Nobody is more for this than me and you, Rob,
like, uh,
like actual justice for the people who frame Donald Trump and that's something
else we could get into. But my first take has to be, it just seems,
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That seems to be what I'm seeing.
I don't know any thoughts any thoughts you have on it.
Like as always, I 100% agree with you.
It's nice. You know, the Trump administration seems to.
I mean, the fact that they're actually saying
that what Obama did is treasonous is great.
The fact that they actually want to go after ex CIA directors is great.
They're also pulling in old Biden officials who all want to play the fifth.
Slash don't remember apparently dementia is contagious.
None of them remember what happened. They all have to play the fifth.
These are great. If they started going after Fauci and wanted to unwind,
what happened there? That would also be great.
The problem is, this is at the moment just the B storyline to the Epstein scandal.
And so it's nice. Listen, we should go after all these people for the crimes that they did.
And we should purge them out of the system. But if you're just going to shelve the Epstein story
without explaining, you know, without having full transparency. So we all go, wow, we're a bunch of
dummies for getting our information on Twitter. Wow.
We're such idiots.
The fact that we thought that that guy was a CIA slash massage spook and that there were
kids involved, man, did we have that wrong?
But until they put that information out and we're all slapping ourselves like, man, we
were really suckered.
I hate to break it to as nice as these other things are.
It's just the B storyline.
Yeah.
Isn't this, it'd be like if they gave us something and we went, man, I was so naive to think that a hood Barack,
the former prime minister and head of intelligence for Israel,
the fact that he was like staying at Jeffrey Epstein's house,
I thought that was like a big deal,
but turns out there's a totally legitimate reason for all of that. You know,
like I'd love to get that reason. But then the reason is like, shut up,
shut up and trust us. And you're like, well, that didn't really, that didn't really settle my concerns at all. Um, well, look, you know, we,
we have particular interest in this story because me and you really did focus on this story for years
of this show. This was the biggest story that we, you know, it's hard.
I'm going all the way back now to like, as, as, as Tulsi Gabbard,
and in these documents that she's released, we're going back to like 2017.
And I understand when you're living in 2025, that this is eight years ago,
might as well be 80 years ago when it's eight years ago. But you have to,
if you could try to understand where me and Rob were coming from,
you have to go back to a world where this is before
there were lockdowns. You know,
this is before the government instituted totalitarianism and made it a crime to
go to work or have a funeral for your dad because we had to fight the flu.
And you know, then after that they forced an experimental, you know,
vaccine on people.
And then the president of the United States was senile and they were lying to
you and telling you he wasn't.
And then the current president of the United States was dodging bullets on
national TV. And then he went and looked, there's just been a lot going on.
So if you could try to understand that 80 years ago in the year, 2017,
when the intelligence community framed the sitting president of the United
States of America for treason, that was a big deal.
Back then that was big news today. That's like a Tuesday,
but back then it seemed like a really big deal. And of course, you know,
that is actually a pretty big deal. And the Russiagate, uh, the whole,
the whole scam was enormously consequential.
Like it's really hard to overstate how much that no,
it served like several purposes.
Number one,
it kept the corporate media afloat for like three more years when they were on
their deathbed.
It was like a very effective chemotherapy for the corporate
media. Um, and they got huge ratings because again,
this is pre COVID and pre Biden dementia where,
although a lot of people were waking up to how corrupt this system is,
you know, those two, those two events really helped propel that.
And at the time the Russia gate was such a bold claim
that it got huge ratings for CNN and MSNBC because it was like back
then again, long, long time ago, but back then people still,
it seemed like the average person,
if they heard that claim, they would go, well,
they can't just be entirely making this up. You know, like they're,
the claim from the corporate media was that the 2016 election,
which remember had just happened, this was,
this was the overthrowing of the U S government by a hostile foreign power.
And the person currently occupying the oval office was in on the overthrowing of the US government by a hostile foreign power. And the person currently occupying the Oval Office was in on the conspiracy that
Vladimir Putin hacked our elections. Hillary Clinton was supposed to win,
but he flipped the results to put Donald Trump in who by the way,
was a willing participant in this conspiracy.
This was the claim that was run across every major newspaper,
every major news TV channel. I mean,
it dominated for over three years. Trump, Russia,
collusion was the story. And then they,
down to when Mueller was, uh, um,
was getting ready to release his findings after, you know,
three years or whatever it had been. Um, and, and up,
up until like the week that he testified before Congress and released the Mueller
report, you had John Brennan, who's being criminally investigated now,
is Obama's CIA director.
He was on TV saying that Trump himself and his family members were going to be
led off in handcuffs on national
television. Like the former head of the CIA was telling the American people that that's
what we're about to witness.
A report's going to come back and be like, yeah, this guy is not the legitimate president.
He was in on a conspiracy. And then of course, Mueller releases his report and testifies before Congress and he has none of
that. He has none of that. He's, he says,
there's no evidence that, uh, um, that,
that Donald Trump was involved in this conspiracy and he's not recommending any
charges and that, you know, uh, essentially he gave,
he threw them a bone in the report by saying like,
there were some instances where what he did could be considered obstruction of
justice. Like in other words, he was obstructing the investigation,
but in terms of the actual investigation, like we don't have anything.
And that was already a big enough blow.
Just if you were just paying attention that it really did destroy. I mean,
this, this was a big part of what started to really destroy the credibility of the corporate media in the eyes of the American people.
But then of course, Rob, as you well know, the story as we had been covering the whole
time is actually much, much worse than that.
It's much worse than just, oh, we investigated it, but couldn't find anything there.
And then it turns out, which again, we already knew a lot of this information, but this was
really solidified in the Durham report where you go, oh, no, no, no, it was actually much
more than that.
They knew this wasn't true the whole time.
And the FBI and the CIA absolutely conspired to frame Donald Trump.
There was never any confusion.
And all of the stuff that they were doing was, you know, do you remember Rob?
You remember how long it went for the three years where they would even start
reporting it and just listing the number of indictments that had come from the
investigation and almost reporting it as if that indicated that that meant
anything. Cause you know,
what happens they're investigating the president and his whole campaign team So they started finding like oh this guy didn't pay his taxes
This guy was involved in some financial but it was all these things that had absolutely nothing to do with
Colluding with the Russians to overthrow an American election. So they would just go we've already got
25 indictments out of this and you'd be like, yeah, but you're saying Roger Stone cheated on his taxes in 1987
That has nothing to do with anything or you got a guy who lied to Congress,
but the lie had absolutely nothing to do with Russia or the election or anything.
So they did this over. And then anyway, yes, it became,
it became more and more apparent.
And there was just the evidence just built and built and built that this was a
total frame job. And that's what it was.
And there's already essentially enough evidence before Tulsi Gabbard released
any of this for us to know it, but now she's released some more. So look,
we could get into what she's, what she's released here,
but I guess I would just say that I do think this is a
shameless attempt to distract from the Jeffrey Epstein debacle
and the cover up of that pedophilia ring.
And I think that, look, I, I'll say this.
I hope I'm wrong here.
I will, I will gladly eat my words on this.
I don't think anyone's going to be held accountable for this.
I think this is going to be one more government investigation.
They're making the claims just like Cash Patel and Tulsi Gabbard and Dan
Bongino and Donald Trump himself.
They've made all these claims about all of these crimes that were committed by
people in the intelligence agencies, by people in the permanent government.
Nobody gets held accountable for it. And so right now, in a way,
the gauntlet's been laid down. Tulsi Gabbard just said, I've got evidence of treason.
I mean, I think she's misusing the term treason,
but maybe sedition, but whatever.
Clearly, serious crimes were committed.
If you want to look into treason,
Obama and Brennan did commit treason in Syria.
We'll get into that in a little bit.
But she said she's sending it all over
to the Justice Department. So, okay, so here we go. Um, but she said she's sending it all over
to the justice department. So, okay, so here we go. Are you actually going to prosecute
any of them? I mean, she specifically names, um, uh, Barack Obama, James Comey, James Clapper
and John Brennan. So this is the director of national intelligence, the head of the
FBI director, the CIA director and the president of the United States. That's pretty high level.
So, okay. Which one of them is getting prosecuted first?
I said my light like a, I don't know about you, Rob,
but like my patience is running kind of thin with this administration constantly
dangling the where there's actually going to be some accountability for these elites and for their you know,
They're their instrument organizations and never getting any
Not like we're getting some but not all of it getting none of it. None of it. I know there was an FBI
The one FBI lawyer got arrested or he got charged and convicted but didn't do jail time. I believe he was the one who actually forged the not forged.
What's the what he misled the FISA courts?
This was the guy who basically what happened was they were framing Carter page who was like a low-level Trump advisor.
They were framing him for being a Russian spy. This was the claim
and the CIA explicitly told him that he wasn't and
they omitted that from there or even I think that it was worse than omitted that they actually said the CIA explicitly told him that he wasn't and they omitted that from their, or
even I think that it was worse than omitted that they actually said the CIA confirmed
their information, which technically was true, but they confirmed like the FBI was like,
we suspect that he was meeting with the Russians.
And then the CIA told us, Oh yeah, no, he's, um, he's an asset for us.
He did meet with the Russians, but he came back and debriefed us on it. And then they, when they were promoted,
you know, when they were presenting their FISA application,
they told the FISA court that we suspect he met with the Russians and the CIA
confirmed this is true, which like they did,
but they confirmed it to debunk the whole need for this FISA warrant to begin
with. So that guy got arrested, didn't do jail time, but was convicted. Um,
other than nobody's been held accountable and I just don't
buy it. I don't buy that this is going to happen. So if this is there like,
Hey, you guys of the world, like, no, stick with us.
We're still going to hold the deep state accountable. Like, okay, let's see it.
You said you got, you said you got the, all the evidence you need. Okay. When,
when are the indictments coming down?
Let me know when the trial day it's going to be for Barack Obama. Cause I don't think there's going to be one. All right guys,
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I tend to agree with you. We all saw what happened with the Durham report, which was basically a way of just getting
rid of this.
I think that this serves two other purposes for Trump is one he is trying to pretend that
the Epstein storyline is just another democratic hoax.
So if he can revisit that old democratic hoax.
And as you see all the chatter now about Epstein and criticizing for Epstein, it does feel
in the way he's being criticized and the way it's being portrayed
in the media, similar to what happened with that fake Russia storyline.
And so this does kind of allow him to revisit what happened there to maybe
better sell, hey, this is just another democratic hoax.
And then you also just have this strange thing.
And I, I'm going to guess that it was just that Donald Trump handled this one so
poorly that he actually should have just let it sit on the back burner till the thing and I'm going to guess that it was just that Donald Trump handled this one so poorly
that he actually should have just let it sit on the back burner till the end in the administration
and now all of a sudden the media realizes that they have a card to play against him
and so they're all broadcasting all this information.
But I guess that does kind of push back at some of the old power structures such as Obama
and the other people that have gone after Trump in the past to be like, Hey guys,
back off.
I am in charge right now.
And, you know, this is sitting on the table.
So if you guys really want to, you really want to push that I'll push on this.
Yeah.
I mean, I think it kind of feels like when you see people like, like in the corporate
media going after Trump for the, for the abstain stuff, it is exactly as you said, it's like, like in the corporate media going after Trump for the, for the abstain stuff.
It is exactly as you said, it's like they just, they smell, they're sharks who smell
blood in the water and they go, Oh, he's weak here. This is actually moving. You know, all
the stuff that they wanted to be obsessed with to tell you is why you have to hate Donald
Trump. No one ever cared about that. Like they'd be like, Oh, he didn't accept the results
of the election. And like, just no, no Trump supporter is moved by that, but this is moving people. So they're jumping on that now. You know, it's a very
dishonest kind of cynical thing, but again, it is, I just think such a hard sell for him
to go there for this is one of those same Russia gate plots or something like that.
But I just don't, you know, I, I think at least for me, and I don't think I'm alone in feeling this way.
I I'm sure there are others who disagree, but I've just like,
I'm just not seeing anything.
Like I'm not, I'm just not buying it. I'm not buying it anymore.
I don't buy that you're actually going to hold clapper or Comey or any of them accountable
And you know James clapper by the way, you know for people who don't remember this is probably what James clapper is most famous for
But of course, he was the director of national intelligence
So he oversaw the CIA and and you know the NSA and he was the one who testified
This is shortly before Snowden revealed the NSA spying apparatus,
but he testified and straight up lied to Congress. I mean, it's, he's guilty of lying to Congress.
You can do jail time for that. People have done jail time for that. Um, they just straight
up bold face lie. They were like, is the NSA involved in a mass bulk data collection of,
of Americans? And he said, no, no, we're not.
And it's just straight up a lie.
He was there as they were building up the biggest spying apparatus in human
history. And okay, if there's this desire to hold him accountable,
there you go. There's your crime right there. Lying to Congress, go prosecuted.
People have been prosecuted and convicted for lying to
Congress on way more vague lies than that one. Like, you know, like they, they really don't take,
I just got it wrong as an answer. Like if you go testify before Congress and they want to get you,
you better say, I can't remember or plead the fifth, if you're going to get it wrong.
Like if you go, this wasn't that, um, I think that was what Michael Cohen got popped with is that he got the month
wrong when he was talking about a business deal.
And I believe I could be wrong about this. I'd have to go.
It's been a while since I read this, but I believe it was something like,
they were both J months.
Like I think he said July when it was actually January and he tried to use that
as his defense. Like, no, I just got confused. And they're like, no, you said July and it was January. You lied to Congress, dude. Like
you're getting convicted for that. And yet this clapper lie is so much more open and
shut than that. Like obviously you knew you were doing that and just didn't want them
to know it. And so you said, no. Okay. So again, just give me something. Give me one
of these deep stakes. I actually hold
one of them accountable and then I'll, maybe I'll start believing again, like, Oh look,
they're actually here for justice. Okay.
Not a crime on the same level as a lying to Congress or the data collection that took
place from the NSA. But I seem to remember a clip of a clapper on the news defending
why he had made a statement of the Biden laptop being having all the hallmarks of a clapper on the news defending why he had made his statement of the Biden
laptop being having all the hallmarks of a Russian operation. And once again, just lying
through his teeth going, no, we weren't, we weren't interfering or saying that it was.
We were just saying that it had the parallels to, if anyone took that information and censored
content, that's not, that wasn't what we were instructing them to do. Nor was that our statement.
I remember it was like even worse than that. Like he was a, it was like a thing where they
were like, Oh, you wrote this had all the hallmarks of Russian disinformation. And he
goes, yeah, I said it had all the hallmarks. You know, I wasn't saying, I wasn't saying
it was Russian disinformation. He goes, no, I was saying like, isn't this such a crazy
coincidence that it's got all these hallmarks? And you're like, what were the hallmarks? And they're like, well,
it was very politically charged. Like you just said nothing. It's just so pathetic. But yeah.
So again, like right, blatant election interference, uh, the, you know, lying to Congress.
And of course, framing the sitting president for treason. I mean, it's like just such a high
level of a crime. And these are legitimate. These are people who are when you're at that point,
you're you're a traitor to your country. Now, this is Benedict Arnold level stuff.
And so again, it just seems to me like this is kind of like, you know, if you're tired of being
a dupe, like you look at something like this, you go, yeah, you're just throwing red meat to the base.
But like what are you actually going to do about any of this? And there has been,
um, you know, which is interesting because only under Donald Trump and
particularly when it was like January 6th and the, uh,
trumped up charges that they,
they were thrown at Donald Trump during the last election.
Only then did this conversation at least ever, I heard, come up in like,
amongst the political class and the media class where they would say like,
is the president above the law?
This is something we ought to be debating and thinking about,
or the Supreme court's going to rule on this and whether or not the president is
above the law meanwhile
In reality Donald Trump was really the only president who wasn't above the law
He was the only president who had the law weaponized against him and was actually convicted of nonsense crimes
But the status quo in Washington DC forever has been that like,
oh yeah, the elites are above the law.
Even when we know that laws were broken. I mean,
there's many times throughout American history that it's just,
it's kind of common knowledge that like laws were broken. Like,
does anyone really dispute that the U S committed war crimes in Vietnam?
Let's say does anybody dispute that? It's like, yeah. And we're like, wow,
who's who got held accountable for that? Like, wow,
it's really hold people accountable. You know what I mean?
Like you could lie us into war.
We've been lied into so many wars since that no one gets held accountable for
that. Presidents have had secret kill lists.
Barack Obama killed American citizens without charges.
Like really, that's a pretty serious crime. It's called murder and no one's being held
accountable for that. So like, it was just always interesting when the argument would
either ever come up that like, is the president above the law? It's like, yeah, but we already
know the answer to that's yes. Everybody knows that.
And anybody like with the most basic understanding of how government actually works,
knows that like, yeah, the CIA operates above the law.
The NSA operates above the law.
The president and his war cabinet operate above the law.
It's constantly.
There's not even an argument about that.
There's what Bill Clinton couldn't get, uh, a UN, um, uh, like he couldn't get
the UN security council to, um, to support a war in, in, uh, uh, what's it called in,
um, uh, against Milosevic in Serbia.
And so we just use NATO to do it.
You know, like there's just no, I don't know.
Or remember there was a big thing made about when the Iraqi parliament voted to
kick us out when we were still occupying the country and we just didn't leave.
It's like, I don't know. So anyway, this has been the status quo forever.
Donald Trump just doesn't really seem to me to actually be committed to breaking
up the status quo, but this will be a good test.
I'll be happy to say I'm wrong about this.
But they've named some of the most powerful people in the Obama administration who are
absolutely guilty of these crimes.
They have more than enough evidence before these new documents.
They had more than enough evidence to prosecute for it.
So let's go.
Let's see it.
Give me a timetable on this. How long you think you
need to put the case together? Like, when am I actually going to see this happen? Is
it going to be like, maybe you could, maybe Tulsi could have a bunch of right-wing influencers
to the White House and give them like a bunch of binders. And then we know we're down. We
only got a few more months before you tell us there's nothing to see here. Sorry. After
the Epstein thing, this is my attitude on this one. So prove me wrong. I don't think you will. I don't
think any of these men are going to be held accountable for the crimes that they committed,
but that's just a guess. Maybe I'm wrong. Let me know in the chat if you agree, if you
think I'm wrong and that we're going to see justice.
And you know, there's, we'll know they're serious if they give out stage one binders
stage ones, but that's when you know, yeah, you're getting, that's how you know, there's, we'll know they're serious if they give out stage one binders stage one, but that's when you know, yeah, you're getting much, you know,
there's going to be a stage two. Yes. You're getting much closer to the cover up when you
start seeing the binders. That's, that's what you know.
Uh, Evie said, I like salty, Dave. Very good. All right. That's just a little bit. Okay. So anyway, getting
into it, there was a, uh, that, you know, the post had a good piece on it. I sent it
to you earlier, Rob, um, when, uh, when this first came out, but yes, treasonous conspiracy
was, uh, was Gabard's, uh, exact words. I pull out, um, a couple of the quotes that
she had here.
Well, I gotta ask you, cause it doesn't seem like there's anything that's actually new information here
I mean, I thought maybe it's just because I spend too much time in the conspiracy space or you know
So long ago
But from what I remember
Basically Obama and Clinton sabotage Trump on the way out and they fabricated this whole Russia collusion story
I guess the only thing that's new here is I get
Russia collusion story.
I guess the only thing that's new here is I get maybe direct evidence of the fact that they had a meeting and then instructed
the intelligence agencies to revisit the reports and come to
a different conclusion.
So this is this is what is.
So again I'm not.
I want to make sure I am clear about this.
I'm not stating there was nothing that I've read through in
this that was like a smoking gun or like, Oh, this changes.
This alters your understanding of how this thing actually went down.
But there's no question. Like if you were building a house, like a case,
you were building a case with bricks.
There were like a few more really good bricks in here.
There were a few more things like, like if you were conducting the trial,
you'd be like, Oh, this will make it in. This will be an exhibit.
And really what it is is that she got, um,
a bunch of communications and even an official intelligence assessment right
before and after the 2016 elections were a bit,
they were all in agreement that there was no significant foreign interference
in this election.
And that is a little bit of a new wrinkle into the whole case because that I certainly
in the Durham report and in all of the other stuff that's come out, I had not seen that.
And that is notable.
I mean, that that really is a like, again, not a smoking gun, but bricks in what is at
this point, just like a very sturdy, very, very solid
built case here. Those, those are like, those are interesting factors because they totally
misrepresented that after the fact and did not at all mention that like, Oh, all of the
intelligence actually suggested that like there had been no significant interference
in the 2016 attack.
And then she points to this one intelligence assessment where like it all got flipped and then they ran with that narrative.
So it would at least like give you one other thing to zero in on.
But if you you know the big stuff like that we always relied on was other stuff.
I mean we we made a lot out of which I still warrants and the text with McCabe's and all that stuff.
Well, it was the struck, the struck texts, the McCabe texts,
and then Andrew McCabe's, um,
his 60 minutes interview where he laid out the whole thing,
which basically the way it went down and this is how pathetic that even the
obstruction of justice claims were at the end. Um, which by the way,
Mueller didn't even have the balls to say Trump committed
obstruction of justice.
He was like, there are events that could be considered
obstruction in their nature.
But so essentially they get in, they have this steel dossier,
which is total nonsense.
The FBI had admitted, we knew this from the Nunes memo,
which was another big one, from the Nunes memo, which was another big one, um,
from the Nunes memo that he got declassified that even Comey himself had,
uh,
had acknowledged before Donald Trump came into office that the, um,
that the Steele dossier was salacious and unverified.
Those were his words about them,
but yet he still used this to open an investigation against the president
He lied to the president about the fact that he was being investigated
Then when donald trump found out he was investigating him for this nonsense. He fired comey and
Uh andrew mccabe who was the number two at the fbi at that point?
He was the deputy fbi director and he became the acting FBI director after,
uh, Comey got fired.
And he said that they had a meeting at the justice department where they
discussed what they were going to do about Donald Trump, uh,
firing Comey and that they were,
they were planning on invoking the 25th amendment to have Donald Trump
removed. And then when it was only then, when they, uh,
they realized that they did not have enough of the votes,
like they didn't have enough of Donald Trump's cabinet to remove him under the
25th amendment, the amendment that was supposed to be used for Joe Biden,
you know, the amendment that's designed to like,
if the president is like impaired or incapable of doing his job,
he can be removed.
They tried to remove him over him firing Comey because that they were worried
would undermine the investigation that was supposed to hamper him. And they said,
they, they didn't think they could pull off the 25th amendment.
And therefore in McCabe's words, they settled on a special prosecutor,
which was of course, uh,
Robert Mueller. And I mean, to me, that was the whole admission right there that the goal
was to remove the president from office. You know, this, the pesky little democratic process
had put Donald Trump in the oval office and they wanted to get rid of him. None, none
of them were saying because we think he's a Russian spy or because we think he opened it was because they wanted him out. And so
this was it. It was a, an attempted coup by the intelligence agencies against the duly
elected sitting president of the United States of America. But in this case, so again, my
point would be the smoking guns already out there.
We already had the smoking gun, like clear. However,
to also have in their own personal communications and intelligence assessments
that none of them even believed Russia had interfered in the election to begin
with. So there was no, in other words, you take that away.
Then there was nothing for Donald Trump to be conspiring with them about anyway.
So like it does,
I do think there's something substantial and significant about the documents
she's released here. The question is, what are you going to do about it now?
And like, okay, so I guess you could, Tulsi covered her ass. She's saying,
I sent these over to the justice department. So, okay.
So what's Pam Bondi going to do with these documents?
Anyone think we're going to see the trial of, of John Brennan or the trial of Barack Obama or the trial of James Comey?
Cause I'm not buying that.
I hope I'm wrong.
Well, a bomb will probably be off the hook anyways, cause he would have presidential
immunity, which seems to be a very lack standard
of what you can get away for even with crimes. Cause he was still president at the time.
But I have to assume Pam Bondi or Trump or fielding calls right now from Obama warning
them that their family members shouldn't go swimming and the Clintons are letting them
know to be careful if they take any baths with toasters. And other than that, you really
even just got to be careful around public buses these days.
Yeah. Yeah. Well, that is true. All of those, I mean, look, those are just in general, just And other than that, you really even just got to be careful around public buses these days
Yeah, yeah. Well, that is true. All of those. I mean look those are just in general just good pieces of advice
We all try to live like that. You never know last thing you want to be what am I gonna do? Rob get on a canoe and go out to the middle of the water and then I just look over and I see Michelle Obama
Furiously swimming at me. Can you imagine how terrifying that is?
You know, no matter how fast you are on that canoe. You're not gonna be faster than Michelle Obama furiously swimming at me. Can you imagine how terrifying that is? You know, no matter how fast you are on that canoe, you're not going
to be faster than Michelle Obama.
Those are big muscles.
Oh yeah.
I can see her moving.
Yeah.
Oh, they move.
Michelle moves when she gets in there.
Um, and then you go, Hey, what's that big thing floating behind her?
Oh, okay.
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All right, let's, I guess that's enough on that subject.
We'll see, we'll see where it goes.
I will, listen, I will, I will be the first to admit
if I'm wrong about,
I'll be so happy to admit I'm wrong about this.
And you know what?
I would even say, if I actually believed that Donald Trump
and, you know, Pam Bondi, we're going to hold
the people who did Russia gate responsible. I'm not saying that would make the Epstein
cover up. Okay. But it would be some sugar to help the medicine go down. It would be
like, all right, you know, we're not getting this group of elites. I guess that was just
too high up there, but could we at least get, you know, the, the, I mean, I,
you know, I do have like a, it is personal to me. Like I would be like, Oh, if we could get those guys, Hey, at least we did get something.
At least some of those criminals in government pay. Cause it really like,
it just can't be overstated. Like however you feel about Donald Trump,
or however you feel about Barack Obama, however you feel about any of them,
that is, that is,
it is,
it is such a profound crime against the American people for any of these guys to
say, you know, like when, when the president, look, it's one thing, if you're,
if you're in the Congress or if you're in the Supreme Court,
uh, you know, if something that the president did comes to your desk and you're in the Supreme court, you know, if, if something that the president did comes
to your desk and you're in the Supreme court and you go, no, this is unconstitutional.
Like, Hey, that's your, that's your, the power vested in you. That's your right to say that's
your job to say that. And the Congress doesn't want to support the president's agenda. Hey,
they have the right to vote how they vote, but like, excuse me, the intelligence community,
like the military, when the president tells you to do something, you say, the intelligence community, like the military,
when the president tells you to do something, you say, sir, yes, sir.
Cause that's the president. He's your boss. And if you don't want to do it, the option you have is that you can resign. You can leave.
Like you serve at the pleasure of the president and the idea that like you
didn't like that the president fired the FBI director who you didn't like,
who you liked. So you were going to try to have him removed. Like, I don't know. I guess
I'm not like a, you know, I'm not a, a, a big, like on a Republican or Democrat or any
of that. But that is, that is, I guess where you get me where I still like go like, you
know, that's a crime against the Republic, dude.
You're not allowed to do that. I'm not saying this system is perfect.
I'm a big critic of it.
There's lots of flaws with government existing at all,
but the way it works is that the president of the United States is in charge of
the executive branch. That's the way every American at least is. Because if it's not working that way, then you're,
which of course never exactly does,
but like then you're a criminal in a much more basic sense.
Then then you're defrauding the entire American nation by
pretending that this is how the system works while you really try to operate it
from within. So anyway,
I would love if some of these people are actually held accountable.
I am not convinced they are going to be. Okay. Let's, uh,
let's get into a little bit, uh, some stuff with Syria, um,
because this has been in the news, uh, lately and it has been,
but I know I was talking about this with a, with you this weekend, Rob,
but it has been kind of weird and surreal to see that essentially all,
I shouldn't say all,
many of the Israel defenders on social media seem to be somehow taking this as
like a big win that things are going so bad in
Israel and that Israel had to bomb Syria on behalf of the Druze or something
like that. And you know, I, so since I guess this year,
it really happened since I did that debate with Douglas Murray on Joe Rogan,
but I've got the, you know,
what people call the Zio bots are out for me on Twitter.
Now I don't know if these are actually bots or not,
or a mix of real people and bots. I'm not exactly sure.
I certainly know there are some people who are real people who are like,
you know, have become reply guys to me on Twitter, you know, always,
whatever, anytime I post,
there's a bunch of Zio people in the comments saying, no, Dave sucks or whatever.
But it does, I will say I have, I have no idea exactly, but I have,
I do suspect that there are a lot of bots in my replies because it seems like
over and over again, I get replies that are almost, they're just kind of always the same and they
don't exactly look like a person wrote them.
They kind of seemed like they're like almost have like an AI generated feel to them and
there's no profile picture.
I get like a lot of these now.
All of them seem like some type of bot farming.
I don't know.
I just had a weird one.
Everyone go check it out.
Zero Hedge.
I do a podcast and I got that just did one with David Stockman was a deep dive on economic
stuff.
I think you'd love it.
But on that episode, I don't know.
An hour after I posted, there's a 12 point like comment chain about following someone
for Bitcoin cryptocurrency.
And I was like, that's a pretty sophisticated bot operation that it's not just the single
bot with some bot, but it's like a whole common thread is if there's a conversation of other
people validating following whatever, you know, it just looks like a scam to me.
Well, you know, I someone told me this.
I did not verify this for myself,
but someone told me that after I debated Josh hammer, when, uh,
Charlie Kirk put it out on his YouTube page and they said, they went, dude,
I went there and it was seven minutes after the video had been posted.
And there's already like all these comments talking about how you got destroyed
in the debate and they're all like the same format. And then you'd be like,
how could any of you even watch the debate? It's been on for,
it's been up for a few minutes. And then I saw that like later.
And then when I went and looked in the comments, I was,
it was all supportive of me. And so I think they just got drowned out or whatever.
But anyway, who the hell knows? I'm just speculating,
but there are things like that. Anyway, I've been flooded with many tweets of people being like, well, Dave won't talk
about the Druze.
Oh, it's only when the state of Israel defends itself that you have a problem, but you don't
have a problem with innocent Druze and Christians being killed in Syria.
And then there were some people who are like actual people who were saying like a similar thing. And it's, I don't know, it's just strange. It's like, wow. Oh, so
you guys, you guys actually, I mean, maybe some of them are bots, but some of them are
real people. And so the real people, you guys, so you guys actually just know so little about
what's going on in Syria that somehow you thought this was a flex to be like, look, Syria is falling
apart.
How are you going to blame that on us Israeli foreign policy?
And you're like, you're not familiar.
So you just don't know at all.
You have no idea what you're talking about, what the situation there is.
Anyway, yes, the US and Israel for years was trying to overthrow the regime in Syria and ultimately it was
successful and they ended up doing it. And now we're left in this situation that all
of us were warning about. It's literally, it's almost like they say it with like no
connection to the fact that like Syria has been one of our major issues for like the
last 10, 15 or 13 years. And there's been like, what have our men,
I mean, they do, there must be something right? Like, isn't there some part of people who
are like, like, okay, the non-interventionists, what do they have to say about Syria? And
you'd be like, wasn't there a whole thing? Wasn't there a whole thing? The non-interventionists
did used to bring up Syria a lot, right? Didn't Tulsi Gabbard go there and meet with Bashar al-Assad and then she was smeared for
trying to stop the regime change there by Hillary Clinton and the other Democrats. And
then people like us were defending her. People like us were attacking Barry Weiss who attacked
her for being an Assad toady. Like is any of this ringing a bell? Anyway, the, you know,
for people briefly, I mean, we've talked about this so many times
on the show, but yeah, this was Syria was one of the seven countries on Wesley Clark's
list of seven countries in five years to topple and they didn't get there in five years.
It took quite a bit longer, but it was under the Barack Obama administration that they
started the attempted overthrow of Bashar al-Assad, even going up to Obama announcing
that there would be another Iraq-style war there,
and then there was major resistance from the US military,
and it didn't happen, but Obama was pouring money in
to all of the anti-Assad rebel groups,
and it became very clear very quickly
that all the weapons were falling
into the hands of Al-Qaeda and ISIS,
and that these were the
anti-Assad fighters.
And we would have given the country over to ISIS back then in 2012, 2013 when Obama wanted
if it wasn't for the fact that the military objected to it.
And then ultimately Vladimir Putin came in to protect the Assad regime. And so they
didn't get, they didn't get the, the regime change when they wanted it. It was also one
of the reasons, one of the things that really escalated the, the tensions between the U.S.
Moscow or DC Moscow relations. And it was not a coincidence that it was then a year
or two later when they started framing Vladimir Putin for overthrowing our election.
So these two stories are all kind of related and Tulsi Gabbard obviously was a
big figure throughout the whole, um, you know,
the whole push for war in Syria. And so these, uh,
ISIS and Al Qaeda guys, ultimately after Putin came in and after Donald Trump in
2017, cut off the CIA program
to back the anti-Assad rebels and then he did some bombing campaigns on ISIS as well.
But between Putin and Assad and Iran and even Donald Trump, ISIS basically receded.
Their forces, they still controlled like some areas of Syria, but the civil war was put
out and Assad remained in power.
And then from those areas that they controlled just, uh, um,
just this past year,
they came in and were able to overthrow Bashar al-Assad. Now it's not exactly
clear, um, because there was some reporting on it,
but it's not exactly clear what role if any,
the U S or Israel or Turkey or Saudi Arabia, um,
directly played when Assad was overthrown. However,
if you go, if I, like,
let's just say there's a country and I start arming one side of
the country, uh, in order to overthrow the government and they're unable to do it.
But then a few years later they come back and they still have the arms that I gave them
and they end up overthrowing the government.
I think you could still look at that as a regime change operation that ultimately was
successful.
I mean, I, so the, the idea that like Israel or the United States of America has no responsibility for the
current situation in Syria seems goofy.
That doesn't mean that the people doing the killing directly also don't have the
most responsibility for it.
But yes, as we've talked about many times here, it's like one of the biggest
outrages in modern American foreign policy.
And that is really saying something because there's a lot of outrageous shit that
the U.S. has done in the realm of foreign policy in the last couple of decades.
But the fact is that the Amir of Al Qaeda, uh,
Jelani is currently the leader of Syria and that where's,
we're supposed to get over that. And then you had people like Ben Shapiro,
right? Celebrating. And don't get me wrong,
he covered himself a little bit and threw in
a word of caution about how this could go really bad for the Christians and the Druze
there.
But yes, but they were happy because and this was really going back to the clean break strategy,
going back to the seven countries in five years.
This was a big part of why they wanted to get rid of Syria is they saw them as an integral ally to the
Iranians and that they were,
these were the other states in the region that were a thorn in Israel side and
and the big part has been Shapiro himself laid out and he was right about that.
The big problem they had with Syria was that Iran was able to transport weapons
through Syria to Hezbollah.
But if you get rid of Bashar al-Assad and you put ISIS and Al Qaeda in charge,
that's going to be tougher for him. And so that was the calculation. Now,
any, any normal person who's an American would look at this and right away go,
well, I mean, look, Bashar al-Assad has his problems, but you know,
he's a secular dictator in a three piece suit who saves it,
shaves his chin every morning. Like obviously he is not, he's,
he has historically protected the Christians and the Drew and the Druze and,
and other minority groups.
And that's a lot better for stability than having fucking Al Qaeda in there.
And also by the way, I'm an American, so Al Qaeda is my enemy,
like a legitimate enemy of the American people.
And if some weapons get through from Iran to Hezbollah, well,
that sure smells like it's Israel's problem and not ours,
but that's not the way us foreign policy works. And so we picked this situation.
And now tragically,
but very predictably it's like, uh,
the Christians and the Druze are being horribly mistreated.
It's terrible. And so, you know, I, I don't know,
I was reading, um, about it. I don't know, um,
exactly what the extent was, but there was major clashes.
And there were,
I saw one report that did have,
it was something in the neighborhood of like 200 civilians were straight up
like just executed, like lined up, executed.
That's it. So it's a horrible situation there. But again,
to all these people, like, I'm sorry, but it's just,
there is this weird thing where you get into debates with some of these Zionists
and they start using points and you're like, no, that's my point.
That's not your point. You don't get to use my point again. It's like, anyway.
And of course, Rob's, you know, as we covered immediately when the regime in,
in Syria fell, Israel immediately took a big chunk of it.
Then they bombed a whole bunch of their military supplies and then they just did another bombing
campaign today.
And don't tell me for a second that Israel is bombing Syria out of some humanitarian
desire to make sure that there's not more Druze who are killed.
Like that's yes, that's what motivates Israel's war policy.
They just can't.
The people who have inflicted the destruction of Gaza for
the last two years are like, we just can't watch these innocent people die in Syria.
That's what motivated them. I mean, come on. No, they're trying. Their goal here is to
keep Syria as weak as possible and make sure that it's not a problem for them in the future.
Their number one priority was to stop the weapons going into Lebanon. Now that they
got that taken care of they also realize
This is a pretty unstable situation. So anyway, they want to occupy more of Syria, too
That's always been part of the greater Israel project
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All right, let's get back into the show. I saw a Times of, I saw a Times of Israel article that was saying that the someone in
the Donald Trump administration was criticizing Netanyahu over the bombing and saying this
madman will bomb anything.
And it's like, well, then we're giving him the bombs.
I mean, that that that's us.
We're the guy handing the the madman the stuff?
Yeah, it's well, it's kind of like much like with the Epstein thing
Where you're just kind of like yeah But if you want everyone to shut up about it you at least got to have something to say like you got to have a narrative
You got at least like release some more documents and then say I hear there's nothing here sounds like such baloney
All right. Fine. You guys are upset about this. I'll release the grand jury guys. That's
not, that's not our biggest questions here. Yeah. Like come on with it, but it is them
recognizing we got to at least give you something. But the same with this, it's like people go
like, Oh, you like so many of these people that are like, just stop talking about Israel
all the time or stuff. It's like, yeah, but when you see something like that, like who
knows if that's even true, you know, but when you see something like that, like who knows if that's even true,
you know, but like you see something like that,
what we know what is true is that this guy can't stop bombing everything.
It's like unbelievable.
It is so crazy that Israel's image in the world has fallen off a cliff so much
in the last couple of years and that there's so much um,
like you just see, look, however you feel about the situation, right? Um,
for both the Democrats and the Republicans.
So let's say for Joe Biden and Kamala Harris and for Donald Trump,
politically speaking, Israel is such a pain in the ass for them.
Like it's, it really hurt the, it, it totally, uh,
it was devastating to the democratic party and, and particularly for their prospects in the 2024 election that you had this,
this catastrophe in Gaza going on the whole time. You know,
you have massive, the entire left wing base in America,
which the Democrats count on to be their attack dog, to be their pit bull,
to be their strongest advocates, you know, that's what they rely on.
And that entire energy for the entire presidential election year was completely devoted to opposing Joe Biden's policy of backing Netanyahu's
war. This was just devastating.
It's part of the reason why you almost have to feel bad for Kamala Harris.
Cause you know, on top of being the least charismatic person with like an 85 IQ,
now you got to deal with that. I mean, it's just, look,
that's a tough situation for anyone. It's like, try to,
you could almost imagine a position like a Republican
was, let's just say a Republican was for open borders. They're the president and their borders
are wide open and the entire right wing base just opposes this. And then you're their vice president
trying to run for reelection. Like you just look at that. You're like, I'm totally sabotaged before
I go in there. That's why everyone knew knew like when when they asked her on the view
What would you have done different than biden and she couldn't really think of anything?
You're like wow, you just blew it completely
Get you, you know, and so she was in a very tough situation
It totally cost them any chance of of being competitive in this election
And now donald trump again as we pointed out when he's bombing iran
He's got to deal with bannon and t Tucker and all like his guys being furious at the policy. And so
It's a huge
Political thorn in the heel of both major parties and yet they keep funding it
Like what do we know about politicians? Typically speaking, if something's politically bad for them, they just won't do that.
The politician could have told you he's your best friend in the world two days
ago. And if he finds out it'll cost him votes, if he talks to you anymore,
he'll just never talk to you again because they don't have souls.
They're politicians, but not when it comes to this. And again,
as we've mentioned all over, you know, you just,
you really can't even imagine that like Israel is there becoming so they're
seen as a pariah state because of their destruction of, of Gaza.
And they won't even stop building settlements on the West bank during that
time. They're like, now screw it. We're going to do that too.
Also we're going to bomb Yemen. Also we're going to bomb Lebanon.
Also we're going to bomb Iran. Also we're going to bomb Yemen. Also, we're going to bomb Lebanon. Also, we're going to bomb Iran. Also, we're going to bomb Syria.
Like just, just attacking everyone and then sitting back and going, Hey,
we're just this tiny, we're this teeny little Jewish state surrounded by a sea
of hostiles. And it's like, well, for somebody who claims to be so vulnerable,
you sure act as if you just have impunity. And why do they have impunity?
Cause the U S the most powerful government in the history of ever will back them
up no matter what. And so anyway, that, you know, Syria,
look, what can you say at this point? I mean, I don't know. Like you guys,
uh, worked for years to overthrow the secular dictatorship there,
even after seeing so many examples of secular dictators being overthrown in this
region and it becoming a catastrophe,
you've now put the only group in the region who actually is a legitimate enemy
of the American people. You've put them in power. And now,
yeah, there's signs that it's a disaster or that it's going to turn into a disaster.
So like, I don't know,
hopefully it doesn't turn into the disaster that it potentially could,
but I don't really know what else to even say at this point. I mean,
I don't think, you know,
you feel horrible for any of the innocent people who are caught there.
What are we, what are you going to do?
You're going to try to overthrow this government now and see what comes next.
You know, it's a, um, it's a terrible, uh,
a terrible situation that was intentionally created by ironically,
a lot of the same people who are responsible for the Russiagate hoax.
I mean,
it was Barack Obama
and John Brennan who consciously made the decision to arm Al Qaeda and ISIS. And that
is, as I've been saying for many, many years now, but I just, it can never be overstated
enough that that, cause the word treason gets thrown around so much, but that is actually what treason means.
Like that's what the term means giving aid and comfort to the enemy in wartime.
It's like one of the, you know,
worst scandals I've ever seen in my life. Um,
another one that I don't think anyone will be held responsible for, but yeah. So anyway, so that's the situation there. So I don't know. This is,
it's just a really yet again,
a pathetic attempt by these, uh, these Israel, uh,
defenders to one be like, Oh, first of all, it's just a dumb,
like irrelevant point. Oh, you care about all these people dying here.
Well, what about over there? It's like, okay. Even,
even if it is a terrible thing that we're not talking about,
there's still nothing wrong with focusing on one terrible thing. Like, okay.
And it's not as if nearly as many people have died in the last couple of weeks
here as have died in Gaza in the last couple of weeks or in the last couple of
years. There was horrible fighting in Syria and a lot,
a lot more people died during the
civil war, but that's been over for years now.
And that was only started because Obama started it.
But yeah, this is, this is, this is a disaster and it's a disaster specifically because they
were on the list of countries to overthrow that the Israeli
government and the U S government agreed on. So sorry is Israel defenders try again next
time, but this isn't going to be the example. Any final thoughts up to you, Rob? And then
we'll wrap up.
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