Part Of The Problem - The War Is Lost

Episode Date: June 17, 2026

Dave Smith brings you the latest in politics! On this episode of Part Of The Problem, Dave and Robbie "the fire" Bernstein discuss the further development of the deal with Iran, Trump's public statements about Israel depending on him, J.D. Vance going over the deal on Sean Hannity's show, and more.Support Our Sponsors:USA compounded, The Wellness Company’s RX Ivermectin + Mebendazole Parasite Cleanse! Click http://www.twc.health/problem and use code PROBLEM for up to $60 Off + Free Shipping on every order. USA Residents only.CrowdHealth - https://www.joincrowdhealth.com/promos/potpQuince - Get free shipping on your Quince order and 365-day returns at https://www.quince.com/POTPIndaCloud - If you’re 21 or older, get 40% OFF your first order + free shipping @IndaCloud with code [PROBLEM] at https://inda.shop/PROBLEM! #indacloudpodPart Of The Problem is available for early pre-release at https://partoftheproblem.com as well as an exclusive episode on Thursday!PORCH TOUR DATES HERE:https://robbernsteincomedy.com/eventsFind Run Your Mouth here:YouTube - http://youtube.com/@RunYourMouthiTunes - https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/run-your-mouth-podcast/id1211469807Spotify - https://open.spotify.com/show/4ka50RAKTxFTxbtyPP8AHmFollow the show on social media:X:http://x.com/ComicDaveSmithhttp://x.com/RobbieTheFireInstagram:http://instagram.com/theproblemdavesmithhttp://instagram.com/robbiethefire#libertarian See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

What's up, what's up, everybody. Welcome to a brand new episode of Part of the Problem. I am Dave Smith. He is Robbie the Fire, Bernstein. How are you, sir? I'm doing well. How are you, Mr. Smith? Doing well, doing well.

Hanging in there. As I said, virus running through my house, but doing okay. I'll be okay by this weekend, which is a big one. We'll be out in Denver at Denver Comedy Works. One of, if not the best comedy club in the country. Love that place. So looking forward to that. Dave Smith.com. Come on out. And Thursday night, we're at the, we're at the Comedy Works South Thursday

night and then we're at the Comedy Works downtown Friday and Saturday. And then you got some other shows out that you got one more out there, Rob. Yes, Sunday. I'm running my FBI presentations come out for that. And then next weekend, Raleigh, North Carolina, Hampstead, North Carolina, and then Myrtle Beach on Sunday. And a lot more porch tour dates coming at you. You can find them all at porch tour.com. Adding more soon. very good very good all right so let's uh let's get into it i mean the the talk obviously is still the big deal the big deal the memorandum of understanding which will uh purportedly cease hostilities in this uh in this current war this u.sraeli war against iran and uh the deal has not well it hasn't

been released yet but rob you know, listen, Donald Trump is, he's been shooting from the hip this entire war. You know that. He's been telling you what's going on. He's been giving you the latest. And he is telling you right now, the deal is going to be great. And you can see it. TBA.

How are you feeling? I want to see the fucking thing. It's just annoying. It's just annoying. We got to spend a whole week after all this, hey, war's over, wars over, war's over. And then you finally go, we're signing the deal. oh wait we're going to re-sign it you got the initial digital signing we're not actually signing it till friday and uh here's none of the details about what's in it but everything you hear is fake

news because this is an excellent deal so just let us see the think well it's uh from everything i'll say this right from everything that we've talked about since this war has started everything that I've read about this, I think we've had a pretty good track record of like kind of where we've been on this whole thing and most importantly of all, why we oppose doing this to begin with. But like everything I've seen in the war,

everything that's been hinted about this deal, everything that's been leaked about this deal, and all of the reactions by the people, you know, the various different camps, kind of tells you that this is, I mean, this is almost a surrender. I mean, not a surrender in the sense that you're surrendering your own country, but in terms of the war itself, it's basically Donald Trump giving up, not getting anything,

and calling it quits and giving them everything. And maybe not everything, but a whole lot. That seems to be pretty clear. And it's kind of the only thing that's consistent throughout. And if that is the case, which overwhelmingly it seems to be. This is what I've been thinking about the last day since we stopped recording. Is that you're like, well, this really, dude, this sets up quite an interesting dynamic.

If this really is just Donald Trump going, I'm pushed so far that like, we're out. We've got to get out of this thing. And he's going all in on, we're giving them all this. I'll spin it as a win, but we're giving them everything. We're giving up without getting any of the war aims. because man, then you're telling me, Rob, we have, this is going to be released maybe today, maybe tomorrow. It's supposed to be the official signing on Friday.

Then there's 60 days. So this is going to like set up a little period of time here where it is the Israel lobby's desperate attempt to reassert itself and get a grit back on this thing. And that is just going to be very interesting. I mean, expect, like, propaganda to ramp up. Expect military provocations and escalations from Israel to ramp up. It's going to be quite a showdown here if Donald Trump really is trying to take this off ramp. It looks like none of the details have been worked out.

It's still unclear. I guess it's signed, but needs to be re-signed on Friday. and there's still, you know, points of disagreement, apparently between the two sides is what we're hearing from the Iranians is just Iranian propaganda and not what's actually going to be in the agreement. I don't know why the Iranians need a lie for three days if we're going to see it in four and find out it's not true. But it doesn't seem like a lot's been worked out. It doesn't seem like the nuclear thing at all has been worked out, which that already, you know, before Trump was saying we got to take care of this all at once. There's too much pressure on them. We're not letting them off the hook on that to postpone that.

so that's an Iranian victory alone of, hey, we'll deal with the nuclear thing later. But just the amount that's left on the table right now is essentially Donald Trump is basically just walking away, potentially handing over money to the Iranians or doing that through another party to pretend like it's not. It's hilarious the way they're going, not one cent of taxpayer dollars. So kind of like the Obama deal, are you describing exactly what the JCPOA was of because you were criticizing that just three days ago? the other things you got left on the table is so you haven't worked out the iranian nuclear deal at all you're you're dealing with that in 60 days and then what happens if israel continues its action in lebanon and then iran goes we don't have a deal here and start striking at lebanon are we just going

back in or if in 60 days they don't uh agree to zero nuclear enrichment are we going back in so it seems like don't trump is figuring out how to basically extend the ceasefire and walk away as to whether or not that's a permanent arrangement, I guess, is really up in the air. All right, guys, let's take a moment and thank our sponsor for today's show, which is the wellness company. Americans love sushi. Over the last two decades, raw fish consumption has exploded, and millions of people now eat raw fish weekly. But there's a hidden risk most people never think about, and that is parasites. Salmon is one of the most popular fish worldwide, but it naturally contains more than 70 parasites.

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But this kind of leaves me back with what I'm saying. There's something very interesting about the dynamic here where it's probably never been the case, any time I could think in my lifetime, where, again, I don't even like saying Israeli interests and U.S. interests, because we're talking about how governments move. So like not even in the interests of their people. or there, but like the goals of Netanyahu and the goals of the Trump administration are clearly

in direct contention with each other. And it's more obvious than ever before that that's kind of what's being set up here. I mean, clearly, like, Rob, I would almost go even like a step further than what you said, right? So what we don't know right now, what we know is that in the deal, Lebanon is covered as part of the ceasefire. That much has kind of been agreed to and acknowledged even by Donald Trump and by all parties that like this Lebanon thing is a part of it too. Okay, Rob, we know Israel is going to keep attacking Lebanon. We know that's not going to stop.

So the only real question is in this deal, which Israel is not a part of. It's a deal between the U.S. and Iran. The deal is, the question is like, so what then? You know what I mean? Like that's the question is, okay, so do we guarantee that there's a seat? But the question here is, there we go, the question here is, does the, if the deal says there's a ceasefire in effect or whatever, and Israel isn't allowed to attack Lebanon, does that mean that it's the U.S. responsibility for, you know, for us to rein in Israel? And if they do that, then we've

violated the deal. Or is the wording going to be something more like, you know, then Iran, can respond to Israel and it's between the two of them and we don't get involved. It's just, it's building up toward where there's one more major opportunity, one more major point where America is going to have to decide if they're going to go all in with Israel again. It's very hard to imagine that they wouldn't. It's hard to imagine that, you know, if Donald, if Donald Trump signs this deal and then there's somewhat of, there's peace talks or there's, there's nuclear negotiations for 60 days or whatever the hell this dumb thing is proposing. This dumb thing, which I'm very much rooting for.

But if in that time Israel keeps bombing Beirut and then Iran responds, what is the U.S. going to do in that case? Because it seems like that's what's going to happen. Does anyone really think Israel is going to stop? They're openly saying they're not going to stop. So that's a huge question. And I got to say, you know, Rob, there was something you said on yesterday's show that did get me kind of thinking when you were talking about how like, well, look, we're kind of going to get tested in a way to see how much blackmail they got on Donald Trump or if they got anything or maybe it's none of that and he's just a boomer and he's just been pressured by these money interests. But, you know, we've long speculated how exactly Israel gets to exert its will over our government so much.

but we don't really know what the answer to that is. And man, that's really being tested right now. Like if, you know, it's almost like we're watching this movie and we've got some ideas about what the plot's going to end up being. But if we just go based off of what we know, you are looking at this and going like, well, like American public opinion on Israel has shifted like 50 points over the last few years. We're $40 trillion in debt. are presidents now trying to get out of this conflict?

Does he get back into another conflict that's crazy unpopular? Because of the solely for this foreign country, I don't know, Rob. I guess what I'm saying is that we're really going to test the limits of what amount of control they have. Because even with a lot of control, you'd think they might push it to a limit where someone just goes, and if ever they were pushed to a limit, like it seems like this would be it. This would be the moment where you'd go, no, I'm sorry. Even if you got me, you know, whatever on camera doing the worst thing you could think of. Like, whatever, show it. I'm done.

You know, not saying that's the case, but, you know, you could just imagine how if, even if someone had blackmail on you, there might be a limit to which they could push that. Whatever control Israel has over the Trump administration, man, if he's going all in on trying to get a out of this thing, Rob, it's got to be something pretty juicy if they actually suck him back in. Yeah. Well, and it does seem to be really appearing the extent by which they were hoping to drag him into the exact quagmire that they said that they weren't. And how disappointed some of the hardliners are that Donald Trump didn't have the stones for a ground war. And it's like, guys, what does the ground war even look like? Do you think you're initiating a draft and actually

doing a World War II style overthrow of a government? Did you think the American people were going to back that? How did you think that was going to play out? And it's almost incredible that that expectation was there and that there wasn't more of a plan than trying sucker Donald Trump into a situation where there's no choice but to initiate a ground war. It doesn't seem like there was any other pathway to victory here. And now they're upset that they lied him into what could have been a bigger quagmire.

And you realized, oh, I got suckered here and I can't win this thing. Yep. And it's, I will say, man, it's, it's one of the things, like every, every indication, as I said earlier, is that like, oh, wow, Donald Trump, this is a U.S. loss. Like, this is Donald Trump accepting defeat in this war. And, man, as, you know, you've seen the Israeli hardliners are really upset by this. Did you see Mark Levin was freaking out? because it was reported that Netanyahu has no idea what's in the deal. And he's like, how can we do this without telling our great friends and allies? You're telling me, we work with the terrorists and keep in the dark, the heroes or whatever. And it is something, right? Rob, like, just as you said that, what made me think of this is you go like,

okay, so you guys, we worked out a deal with Israel, which was to launch this war, and that turned out to be all wrong. So yeah, now we're going to work out a deal to end this thing. Maybe we do keep them out of that part. Anyway, I thought, hmm, I'm debating who to go to. You know what, just since we were on that topic, let's go to John Putthoritz. I do want to say I'm loving, I don't know if loving is the right word, but like in the New York Post and in other publications, I'm starting to see, hey, we abandoned the Iranian people again. And it's amazing that they're playing that card.

they could care less about the Iranian people, but now that Donald Trump wants to leave, they're back to, well, what about the Iranian people? You mean the same people you were hoping he would bomb to oblivion two weeks ago, the same people who you're like, oh, why doesn't he have the stones just to obliterate the country? Dude, it's such a good point. I'm so glad you brought that up because as you mentioned it, I have seen several people. All of a sudden, now we're back to, oh, but you're going to abandon the people. You told the people to rise up.

We thought you were going to liberate the people. What about the promise to that? Motherfuckers, you guys cheered this madman on, as he said, he was going to wipe away those people's civilization. So sit down. Best thing that could happen for those people is we end this. Yeah, Natalie, it's the second video that says, yeah, who could have predicted this. Let's play. Here's John Putthoritz.

By the way, for people who don't, I have to remind everyone because no one except people like me knows who this is. But this is John Podhoritz, who is Norman Podhoritz's son, legendary neo-conservative, one of the most influential. one of the most influential, like right behind Irving Crystal and those guys, his father, Norman Putthoritz, was one of the most influential neoconservatives. And they both, I don't know if they founded Commentary Magazine, but they were both over there for a long time. Anyway, neo-conservative. He was saying the Jews took out Thomas Massey that we criticized that video recently.

Yes. Yes. He's the one who said all the Jewish money should flow in to take out Thomas Massey. Yes. And of course, he's been a cheerleader for war in a round. for, I don't know, 30 years. But anyway, here he is now. I honestly don't know if it could be worse. Because if this war ends the way I fear it's going to, America is going to be in a strategically, tactically and militarily worse position than it was under Biden

and before Trump came back into power. That is to say, he made a choice to test America's resolve, America's ability to win war to exert its will to change the nature of the map. And he has choked. He has chickened out. He has bled himself dry and better that we shouldn't have done it in the first place. Because we have 25 years left. We have 75 years left.

For a second. We have seven. Listen, man, there's something interesting about this critique, John Putthardt's as of Donald Trump. And as you listen to this, Rob, I bet even you'll say he's not entirely wrong. There's something reasonable about what he's saying. But of course, there's also something truly disgusting about what he's saying and what he's advocating for. Like the obvious conclusion of this is that, yeah, that's why you shouldn't have launched

this war. That's why this was not just a mistake, but a goddamn, you know, just a catastrophic mistake. I mean, this thing already, if we end here, essentially the point he's getting to is that this is worse. Well, no kidding, this is worse, Rob. I mean, how much, listen, but again, there's those 168 schoolgirls that got killed that everyone makes a big deal about, but there's probably at least a couple thousand Iranians who have died from this thing. I don't know, several thousand people in Lebanon have died. And I know some Israelis have died. Like 13 to 15 U.S. soldiers have died, a couple hundred wounded. At this point, we'd probably

spent just like $100 billion on just military munitions and movements. The damage to our bases and everything like that's probably another $100,200 billion. The damage to the global economy is probably in the hundreds of billions of dollars. Like this thing is a big, goddamn catastrophe all for nothing. So yeah, it's bad. But the thing is, there's just something about, and I'm sure, I don't know, Rob, there's something about looking at John Pod Horowitz. call somebody call don't

Trump a chicken and the like I don't know Rob there's there's something about when men like John Podharitz use this kind of like bravado language talking about war that really just sicken me like what do you

chicken like what but you're the tough guy or something like that like what do I I don't know I just hate when people use this kind of like oh you're a chicken I'm I'm I support the brave position, and the brave position is advocating for a fight that other men fight in while I sit off here to the side. There's just nothing brave about that. You don't get to call other people chicken for recognizing that it's going to be a catastrophe to continue.

God, I hate to be defending Donald Trump at all, but from this, I kind of well. All right, guys, let's take a moment and thank our sponsor for today's show, which is Quince. I love this company. I wear a bunch of their stuff. I love Quince. I've ordered several articles of clothes from them that I very much enjoy and I wear regularly. You've probably seen me in some of their stuff on the podcast. And they've got great stuff for summer.

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and hey targeted strikes don't just work so kudos to this guy on his brilliant political analysis three months too late in the most weasley fashion because yeah if we weren't fully committed we shouldn't have done this and guess what being fully committed would also be worse amidst the options now walking away is better than moving forward. And you're right, he shouldn't have taken the half measures if he wasn't fully committed. But going further, deeper into this mess is not the better solution. And it's three months too late. It's exactly what we were saying at the beginning of this war.

So thank you for affirming us for being right. And you should go talk to your entire clan of losers and liars who tried to make this into a bigger mess. You know what you guys tried to do. And there will be, there will be, that's right, that's right. And there will be this small contingency of hawks who are going to argue, assuming this whole thing doesn't fall apart and we end up back in a wider war, which is also possible. But assuming it doesn't, these guys are going to argue that we just didn't finish the job. We just didn't go far enough.

And I don't think this argument's going to work on just about anyone, but in case it is, we're going to, you know, do our best to tear it apart. But it's just not the case. And in the same way that, you know, it's like the, as I described it weeks ago, the sunk cost fallacy of war. Like if you've invested $20,000 with your buddy and then you find out your buddy's running a Ponzi scheme, you don't go, well, dude, we got to finish the job. You know, we can't stop now. You got to go. Or if you stop now, you spent that $20,000 for nothing.

It's like, yes, you did spend that for nothing. And also, don't give him anymore. Also, don't do this anymore. This is a bad investment. Anyway, here, let's keep playing some more at Putharitz. 75 years left of the century, Trump, the crazy lunatic psychotic who doesn't care about lives and will do anything and do anything could not bear the idea of putting a boot on the ground anywhere in Iran and could not bear the idea of a single American possibly being taken hostage, which I understand. I'm not saying that either of those is a good thing. But if you're going to go to war, you have to put boots on the ground.

If you're going to go to war, you have to understand that there are sacrifices that not only is the military, which is a volunteer military. Everyone in the military. Oh, it's a volunteer military, Rob. They all volunteered. There's no moral issue with getting them killed. I mean, after all, they all volunteered. They chose this. Yeah, but I think they kind of chose this with the pretty firm,

that you're only going to put their lives in danger if you absolutely need to, not off a whim, not just because you choose to. But look, I mean, what can you say here? It is true in a way, right, Rob? Like, he's got a point. There is something, and this is part of the reason. It's not the only reason, but it's part of the reason why we oppose wars of choice, getting into wars that you don't have to, in other words.

And the reason you oppose that is because you don't, the truth is, you don't really have to be fighting this war. You're choosing to. In that situation, you typically don't have, you know, part of the reason why the old adage is that occupations never work or something like that is because, you know, people who are fighting for their own homes are fighting for more. It's a must win for them. It's not a war of choice. It's a war of necessity for them. And particularly when you launch a war of choice in a country that's incredibly war weary, that has no appetite for war, with an administration that doesn't even have that large of an

appetite for war, and you are kind of half-assing it to some attempt, to some degree. There's something about war where you're always pretending that it's necessary. But these wars aren't necessary. You know, there's something about, in the same way, Rob, if you remember during the war in Ukraine, they would always kind of pretend that like somehow this is a must win for Europe or for the way. And that's why they would have to do this. Like they'll reconstitute the Soviet Union.

He'll take over Poland next. He'll take over all of Europe because you've got to feel like, you know, this is a must win. When the truth is just that like it's not. Look, Ukraine lost the war. We're all still fine. It wasn't a must win. He's not taking Poland. He's not reconstituting the Soviet Union.

Like none of that actually ended up happening. Likewise, when Donald Trump is just half-assing and pretending, like, I'm going to launch a war, but of course I'm not going to send ground troops. Yeah, it's true. You can only do so much. But again, Rob, to your point, we already knew from the very beginning that there was no appetite for ground troops. And the other thing here is like, why not? Why is there not? I mean, it sure is nice that John Pod Horitz is comfortable with more U.S. soldiers.

dying, but the country is not. We're not prepared to make that sacrifice for Israel. And, you know, it's like there is something about the cavalier attitude to which he talks about, like, just have some courage, have some courage and get somebody else's kids killed. Any thoughts, Rob? Well, you know, this war, not only was it sold on lies, it wasn't sold on coherent or good lies. And so if you're intelligent, you can just forecast at the outset of this thing, hey, can I actually pull off a full war? Do I have the country afraid of this threat in a way that people are going to be willing to sacrifice their lives? And they're so fearful of this enemy that they're going to go fight and people are going to volunteer to be in the military.

And we could have told you no. And so if you know that up front, then don't launch the half measures. And so for people who I'm sure he was one of them who is advocating for this war and hoping that the half measures would create a bigger mess that would force Donald Trump to do a full-scale war that he didn't need to do, or wanted to do in the country didn't want. Yeah, you didn't get your way. And that's why this was a mistake. This was bad strategy. You could have forecasted all of this.

And you were very hopeful with other people's lives on behalf of Israel. And now you're turning around and going, oh, Donald Trump, he's a big old chicken. He just didn't finish the job. Okay. You know, you guys, you should have been able to forecast this and you should have known that this was a mistake. And that's why more people should listen to us. We said it right at the beginning.

There you go. Here, let's keep playing. military has volunteered to put their lives on the lines for their country and that the country itself may have to sacrifice in the form of wildly higher oil prices. If you think that the American national interest has to be engaged in this process, and if you go into the process and you lose it, and it's a complete war of choice, you have made things worse. The situation is worse. It's worse than it was on the 28th of February. And to get to the point, that Seth was going to, which is why I'm so crazy passionate about this, when we were talking about

this in January. Unlike you usually are, you're just crazy passionate about this. No, no, I'm out of my mind here. I haven't felt like this in a long time, actually, we said in early January, the problem with the American response to the Iranian uprising is that there is a history of America with populations under totalitarian rule rising up and then those populations getting the idea that we were going to be the cavalry and ride in and help them and save them and help them win from Hungary to Prague and onward and that under those conditions there were tragic consequences to those uprisings where they were crushed and tens of thousands of people killed and hundreds of thousands of of people jailed and all of that because they got the wrong idea from us.

And at least Dwight Eisenhower in 1956 didn't say to the Hungarian people, help is on the way. DJT, you know, we're coming to save you. He said it. I didn't say it. You didn't say it. This is why I keep saying he chose this path. we were not forced into this path. It wasn't even anything like Kuwait.

It wasn't even the war. We had to go to war in 1990 against Iran, Iraq, because Iraq had swallowed a neighboring country. And just as Seth says we can't allow, you know, a waterway to be closed and have a world that functions properly, if we sat there while one country swallowed up another and announced that it was its province, and didn't do something, the world would collapse into chaos because people would be,

countries would be trying to do this all over the place. And 52 countries said, no, no, no, you cannot do that. That wasn't a war of choice. This Trump decided to do. I was happy he chose it. But I'm under no, under no possible illusions that this was something that needed to be done. So if twere done, we're better, we're done quickly and had to be won. You couldn't lose.

this and lose, and he is losing. And you may not think that the deal is going to go through. And you may want to see the memorandum of understanding, but then I see J.D. Vance on CBS this morning saying the following, asked by CBS, the Iranians are saying they're going to have access to a $300 billion reconstruction fund. Is that true or false? And this is, this is, what, what do you? Not quote. Okay. We can pause it here. He's upset that J.D. Van, here you can close it because we'll play the jd vans clip uh in a sec but anyway the reason i i understand that was a bit long there but there's a few things that are just so fascinating in all this i mean number one man did i tell you the lobby was going to turn on don't trump over this i mean this is if you don't

finish this for them you're not useful anymore they got no sense of honor or loyalty or hey you tried for us or something that's not how it works um they're they're going to be pretty brutal um but number two here is that there is just this um well look part of this he's kind of right in a way like there's there is truth to what he's saying like hey yeah you went all in on this dude you can't do this and then lose um so okay there but then you also you get a glimpse into like the truly psychotic neo conservative worldview and this is why so many of us you know, are just, just hate the neocons so much because they're just literally,

they're like agents of destruction. I mean, there is bad as bad as any jihadist that you could imagine. I don't care if they, you know, whatever, you know, if they went to college and they wear suits and ties. I mean, they just advocate for death and destruction all the time. By the way, Rob, this was always what they would say about the war in Iraq.

this is all we just should have surged more and the problem is that we didn't surge more the problem is we didn't have enough will the problem with with uh syria was that we didn't flood more weapons in the problem with it was always like we could have done it but we just fell short they still this day david warms are talks about how if we had installed a hashemite king it would have worked in iraq and so it was the right move we just didn't you know the liberals got all weak in the knees and didn't follow through. But what they just can't acknowledge is the obvious reality. You know, it's like, like he's saying, hey, I was with Donald Trump launching this war, but you can't stop short of winning. But the obvious reality is that you can't win. How about that? Maybe you just couldn't win.

Maybe we didn't have the ability to do this. What is he really talking about here? Invade around, boots on the ground? How many boots you think we're going to need? Like the entire military? You know, I just, I don't, there's the, the bottom line here, and he's going, oh, they got access to this $300 billion. It's like, yeah, I mean, it looks like the only way Donald Trump could even bring them to the negotiating table was to basically say, I'll give you all this money. All right, guys, let's take a moment and thank our sponsor for today's show, which is crowd health. I've been telling you about crowd health for many years. I love this company, thrilled to have them as a longtime sponsor. And now they've made their service even better with the black.

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Any thoughts, Rob? Yeah. I agree with him once again, where he says that this was a war of choice. And so if he was actually an intelligent individual at the outset of this war, he should have said, hey, listen, this is a war of choice. And if we're going to fight it, we need to win it.

And the only way to do that is with boots on the ground. and I don't think the country's willing or able to make that sacrifice right now. So it's a mistake and we're better off with the deterrent threat of what us engaging with them might look like. And that will give us more leverage. And that's what he should have said. But apparently he supported the war at the outset because he wasn't smart enough to forecast, hey, we don't actually, the country does not believe enough of these lies that they're willing to actually back this war. And so therefore, it's a bad, you know what I mean?

You guys are just bad at this. I mean, if that's actually your worldview and your strategy of this was a war of choice, and if we fight it, we have to win it, then you and the other neocons should have spoken out against this three months ago and been smart enough to know, oh, we're not actually going to have a full ground invasion. This is bad strategy. But you guys didn't say that. Instead, you went with the Israeli talking points and you hoped that you would pull us

into a full mess, and now you're upset that you didn't get it. Yep. Yeah, you're upset that you just got a little catastrophe and not a bigger one. All right, let's go to, all right, I guess we should go to Trump next, because Donald Trump did speak to the press today. Best deal, greatest deal, never going to get a bomb. Everything's amazing. You'll find out in a couple days. It is, it really has something.

Here, let's go to the. People can't handle that much good news all at once. I got to wait a week before I give it to you. Without me, there would be no Israel, Natalie. let's go to that uh that clip here of trump today in the white house yeah no we have a great relationship he makes the sweetest love to my butt in details i didn't like that he did an attack based on a i'm sorry i'm sorry you know what

natalie you know pause this for a second i'm sorry i said the wrong one let's let's go to the why not release the text first and then we'll do the net and yahoo one but i went ahead it's the other uh yeah this is the one i wanted to play first because this was is really fun. The text of the document, why not release the top? Oh, I will. Why not release it before? Well, because I'd like to get a formal setting first before we do that.

But I have no problem with that. It's a great document. Here's what it says. Iran will never have a nuclear weapon. That's where it says. It won't have one to buy, to develop. They will not have a nuclear weapon. And I would say that's about 99.9% of what I wanted,

because we couldn't let that happen. you couldn't let it happen and they won't have a nuclear weapon now in addition to that the straight is going to be open toll-free and it's sole-free beyond the 60 days it's not somebody said oh it's tall-free for say no no it's toll-free period when it opens permanently it'll be toll-free i want to congratulate our navy because the naval blockade was unbelievable but i will actually i'll not only release it i'll probably have a press conference and read it to use word by word so that the press covers it accurately because it's a very important document it's very important document rob then you will see it at a time to be announced

you uh gave i ran everything they wanted they might not even sign it so i don't want to read it to you before they say no i mean dude he says and then just to fall back on i'll tell you what it says it says it says that a Iran will never get a nuclear weapon. And that's 99.7% of what I wanted. It's like, okay, that's what the JCPOA says. That's literally the start to the JCPOA. It's also with the nonproliferation treaty, what you signed onto.

But okay, so that's 99.7% of what he wanted. In addition to that, he gets the straight of Hermus open. So what you got is what we had before the war. That's what it's not even, he's not even like okay rob right now there's some questions about what the iranians are claiming versus what they actually get right because the iranians claim they get that 12 billion right up front and like guaranteed access to the 300 billion so we'll see what happens with all that um Donald trump isn't even claiming anything else he's what he's claiming we get is what we had before

the war that's what he's claiming he's not even making any claims like that you know directly about anything else um and as you notice there he doesn't go to enriched uranium or proxies or missiles or regime change or any of that he doesn't have that to brag about which really is something uh a lot of work and a lot of news coverage to end up in the exact same place is kind of the donald trump way yeah policy there's been a bunch of them this this is don't Trump. As much media attention as you can get to end up just spending some money and ending up in the exact same place. This is the worst one. This is the worst one of them all, though, man. You're right. It follows that same Donald Trump template, but this is the worst version of all of them. Here,

okay, let's go to the Netanyahu one because this was an interesting clip here, Rob. Because, of course, this is the big question now going forward. It's as we've seen already with the Pod Hart's video, as we've seen with Mark Levin and Ben Shapiro, as we've seen. seen with Netanyahu and Ben-Gavir and the next 60 days or plus 64 days or whatever, this is going to be about the Israel lobby versus the Trump administration now. Things have changed and we're going to see who can get their way. Anyway, here, let's play the clip. Trump's asked about his relationship with BB.

Are you frustrated with Netanyahu, sir? No, we have a great relationship. We're talking about some end details. I didn't like that he did an attack based on a, you know, there's a very minor little thing with some drones that were released. And he ends up going to a very, I saw that attack. I saw where that bomb went. Did you see what that? That was not, that was a vicious, that was too much.

You know, you can do too much also. But we've had a very effective relationship without us. Without the United States, there would be no Israel. Without me, there would be no Israel because no other president was willing to do what I did. I've had a great relationship with BB, but now BB has to be more responsible with respect to Lebanon.

Lebanon used to be a great country. It was a country where you had professors, doctors, lawyers. The great intellect was in Lebanon. Now it's just, it's terrible. which have all countries that have been treated the worst, and they can't defend themselves, and they have Hezbollah, which is a problem for them. So, no, I'm not happy with the way Israel has handled themselves

with Lebanon and with Hezbollah. They should have been able to do the Japhasa. It just goes on forever. And when that happens, it throws a negative light on the big deal, and that's the deal with the rent. So, so when you ask me about BB, an unbelievable relationship. But Israel would have been blown up a long time ago, had I not gotten involved. So there you go, Rob.

An unbelievable relationship, but you'd be dead without me. And, yeah, Donald Trump's somewhat critical of the way that BB Netanyahu has been conducting the war in Lebanon. Yeah, I don't know. Any thoughts? You got to love the endless counterfactuals. You guys already owe me your life. Quit complaining. You'd be dead if I hadn't done it.

Same with our country. Our country in Europe. Everyone would be the Iranians could have killed everybody. But only because Donald Trump's targeted strikes and I guess them fearing him and wanting to restrain themselves, are we alive? And honestly, the fact that we ever criticized Donald Trump with all these counterfactuals on the table, it's on us. We should just realize that we'd all be dead right now.

you know, COVID would have killed us too if he hadn't gotten that that vaccine out. It's just pure counterfactuals. I guess if you want to throw up claims without any evidence to support them whatsoever, then yes, Donald Trump has already already saved us. And so we should be more gracious for what he's done,

even if we can't see it or understand it. Almost like God in a way. I will see, hold on. I'm sending another clip to you, Natalie, here, because I think this was the one, he said some more stuff on the same topic that I, I wanted. But yeah, there is something about it, man, Rob, where, you know, I mean, I guess, right, it's the moral of the boy who cried wolf story. And it's the reason why a father tells his son

that like your word is your bond. You got to keep your word. It means something if you say something to someone. If you say, I'll be here at this time. If you say, I'll give you this. If you give me that, that you stick to it is because, well, in top of it being the right thing to do. It's also the moral of the boy who cried wolf is that you're going to need your word someday. You know, someday you might really need people to take you at your word and be careful before you blow that thing out. And I know Donald Trump, you know, his fans can always say like, oh, well, you know, you can't take them literally. I understand that argument. But at the same time, it's like you get to a point like right now in negotiations, his word means a lot. It's very important.

We're relying on that. And yeah, just the way he goes, there'd be no Israel. It would be destroyed. It's always, I know. I remember in the Biden administration when there was no Israel, you know, up until Trump came around, there just wouldn't be in Israel. Here, anyway, Natalie, let's play this other clip because I think it had the part I was looking for. Israel's fighting Israel.

Too long and too many people are being killed. And you don't have to knock down an apartment house every time you're looking for somebody. Because there are a lot of people in those apartment houses. and they're not all Hezbollah that I can tell you. And I suggested to Israel to let Syria take care of Hezbollah. Because to be honest with you, I think they do a better job of doing it. All right, so you'll like Syria. Pause it.

Okay, so first of all, because this came after the last clip, I thought this was attached to it. But so now here he says, Rob, this is, Donald Trump goes, and you know, by the way, dude, They're bombing a lot of these apartment buildings, and you don't really need to take down a full apartment building to get one Hezbollah guy now, do you? Like, this I just thought was kind of amazing because you're like, wait a minute, Donald Trump, you think Israel is a little too heavy-handed in Lebanon. And he said this thing about how the people of Lebanon have been treated the worst. And you're just like, dude, this is, I don't know, there's just something about the insult after genocide to the people of Gaza who are just, can you imagine being. a resident of Gaza and just hearing him talk about this like that. And you're like, did you not, you funded them the whole time that they did this. But how about this, Rob? At the end of it there,

he throws to maybe we'll have Al Qaeda handle it for us. Maybe, you know what, dude, this is literally not making this up. Donald Trump just pivoted from, you know, the IDF is a little bit too brutal. we might have to hand this off to al-Qaeda to somebody who we can trust to fight with a sense of honor the goddamn Amir of al-Qaeda who he put in charge of Syria well to translate

what I see is the dynamics I don't know where this Donald Trump was for the last year I don't know why Donald Trump was just rolling over for Israel particularly when Netanyahu had thrown him under the bus in the last election but then something happened after where he was shot at and met with Netanyahu and at Mar-a-Lago.

I don't know if it's the donations that came in or he suddenly doesn't care about the blackmail they have on him. I can't tell you what is changing here. But it does appear that Donald Trump is actually ready, willing, and able to suddenly criticize Israel as he tries to get them to back off Lebanon so he can actually walk away from this war. And yes, if he's criticizing the bombing of innocent civilians in Lebanon, then that is a new policy of Donald Trump. that Israel should not be murdering innocent civilians. And what he's channeling to them is, I will raise more of this concern unless you stop doing what you're doing. And I mean, the shift in policy and tone and treatment of Israel,

if Donald Trump wants to turn this hard against them, if they don't get online, is pretty incredible. It's pure Donald Trump bullying. It's like if somebody was like, you know, getting mocked for being fat online, Donald Trump will always be like, and you know, a lot of people are saying he's very fat. No, I don't know.

I didn't say that. But like he's intentionally bringing it up. He's intentionally letting you know that he can tap into that energy. Yeah, that's right. But it's interesting that he's doing that there. And then it is nothing but like a real insult to just go, maybe these Al-Qaeda guys in Syria, they could handle it better than you guys can, you know?

Just nothing more than that. But let's play the end of this here because he does get in a, another comment about Syria, which is pretty wild. Where two hours before we're signing the agreement, that there was an attack in Lebanon, in Beirut. It wasn't like in the southern side. It was in Peru. I did not like that.

I let them know that. I didn't like it, not at all. But I think that Syria, you know, he's pulled that country together amazingly quickly. He's very careful. capable. And he's been very good for me. He's protected everything that I've asked for. He's done. And if Israel can't do the job without killing everyone else, he'll do the job. Syria will do the job. Yeah. Now, isn't it something, dude, Rob, that here he is. He's bragging about this former al-Qaeda

leader, Jalani, in Syria, and what a great job he's known and how he'll do the job for him. And he gets into they are at a different portion. One of the things he likes about them is that they're not friends with Hezbollah. And it really is just something to just go that like, it's just going through the like, oh yeah, how much that regime change there

was so we could put enemies of Hezbollah in charge of Syria. Even if those enemies, Rob, happened to be al-Qaeda, the enemies of the United States of America. But that's not enough. That's not enough for old BB. All right, guys, let's take a moment and thank our sponsor for today's show, which is IndyCloud. Indecloud is the online dispensary. If you are 21 years of age or older and you're looking for a dispensary, you don't have to find a brick and mortar anymore. You can just check out Indy Cloud.

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promo code problem for 30% off your first order. All right. Let's get back into the show. Anyway, so there was Donald Trump. Let me see here. What was a... I'm almost debating on which one of these I'd want to go to. Okay, yeah, let's go to the first one I sent you

today, Natalie, which was J.D. Vance. He was this morning, he was on Fox and Friends. This is the quote that Pod Horitz was referencing, and I did think that it was worth playing. So yeah, let's do that. And then if we have time, we'll go to the Hannity one that you sent, Rob, which is great. Here, let's play this one. It's clear that they respect the commander of. Yes, they do. And Iran respects our military because of what we've been able to do. Some of the things that we're hearing about that we haven't seen the text. But just what we're hearing, that the deal would end all sanctions and all waivers. I'm hearing that it will be downblending, but not destruction of the nuclear dust.

And there's no closing of the nuclear facilities. And they hope that there's no nuclear weapon for the next 15 years. There's also strong language about stopping funding the proxies. But it says in the deal that Iran has to use its best efforts, not stop it completely. There's also the $300 billion in reparations that's going to come from Qatar and some of the Gulf states, and then $24 billion an unfrozen asset. Is any of that true? And if it would be true, would that concern you? Yeah, so most of that is basically Iranian propaganda. And you have to understand what's going on here. So the Iranians have just had their conventional military destroyed. Their country has totally changed.

They have a totally different leadership than they had even three months ago. And so what is happening is that some elements in their society are trying to sell this deal as positively as possible to their domestic audience. Now, that's expected. It's frustrating to me, but that's expected. What is a little unexpected and more frustrating to me is that you see certain people in the American media literally recirculating hardline or talking points from the IRGC instead of telling the truth about what's going on. So first of all, not a single cent of American money goes to a brand of $300 billion. Pause it real quick. it and just bring it back like five seconds.

Rob, isn't it so funny to just criticize people in the media? So essentially, you guys are claiming there's a deal. Iran goes, yeah, there's a deal. And then the Iranians say what's in the deal. And you say, we can't show you what's in the deal. And then you criticize media figures for reporting on what the Iranians are saying is in the deal. Well, then what else are we supposed to go with?

and you know if it's iran propaganda you notice he didn't specifically point out what was iran propaganda in any of those claims and so uh yeah anyway here it's incredible to me that if in three days the exact details are coming out and all this stuff is true he's willing to go on this media tour and make claims like this to look like an asshole in three days i don't understand this administration's willingness to lie to win the news cycle for 24 hour period as if three days in the future isn't coming. Yeah, very strange. All right, let's keep playing.

Line are talking points from the IRGC instead of telling the truth about what's going on. So first of all, not a single cent of American money goes to Iran, not $300 billion, not $24 billion, not any of the money, the dollar figures that I've seen floating around. Number two, this is a firm commitment backed up by verifiable action to never develop or buy a nuclear weapon by the Iranians, which, remember, that was the whole point of this entire operation,

is to ensure not just that Iran wouldn't have a nuclear weapon for the next couple of years, but that they would make that long-term commitment. Now, here's the important part, though, is there are benefits to Iran if they perform their end of the obligation, not money from the United States, but maybe Qatar or the UAE or Saudi Arabia, maybe they want to invest in Iran and build a power plant.

The United States, our approach to that is going to be, yeah, you can do that so long as the Iranians are behaving properly. But if they don't behave properly, they don't get into it. All right. So here, you can pause it there. All right, Rob, so listen, first up, let me just say, because it's almost more important than even the analysis or breaking down what he's saying here, because it's so ridiculous.

And this is just such, it's so childish to even take this. Like, it does, it reminds me of a, there was this bit that they did on the office with a Will Arnette when he came in. and he was interviewing to be Michael Scott's job was open, and he's interviewing for it. And he goes, I have a four-point plan that'll double your quarterly profits by next year. And they're like, oh, that's amazing. What is it?

And he's like, I can't tell you. Because, I mean, if I told you, then you could just do it without me. So you got to hire me. And then I'll do it. And they're like, okay, but you got to give us some of the plan. He's like, hire me. And then you'll get the plan. Like, I have a plan.

It's like, if you won't tell us what the deal is, then you're just sitting here telling it. And then you're saying, yeah, but the best part of this deal is that, Iran only gets this money if there's enforcement. Yeah, but enforcement of what? All you said here is that they can't develop or purchase a nuclear weapon. So if they just do that, you're enforcing that. What they've done this entire time.

Like, what does that mean? You know what I mean? The devil's in the details here and you're not giving us any of it. But Rob, as you, I mean, you pointed out at the very top of the show, this pathetic change to, no, first of all, I've seen these $24 billion, $300 billion figures. None of that. First of all, there's no U.S. money is going into that.

So I don't know where these figures come from. Yeah, but no one claimed those figures were U.S. taxpayer dollars. The $24 billion is frozen Iranian assets. And the $300 billion is a reconstruction, you know, fund that they alluded to. And so even if you're saying, if you're saying it's not U.S. dollars that go there, but this deal does give them access to these dollars, that's the whole point that you, Hawks have been running with this whole time, that it doesn't matter. Money's fungible. It's money going to the biggest state sponsor of terrorism or whatever. So it's just, it's ridiculous to watch them

change this, the standard here, just completely abandoned the talking point. I mean, hey, it's good that they're abandoning it. It was bullshit to begin with. But at the same time to say, no, it's different because it's not US dollars. We're just giving them access to money, but only if it's verified that they followed something that we're not going to tell you what it is they need to follow. Like, he didn't say it's tied to them diluting their enriched uranium. He said it's tied to them not getting a nuclear weapon. What does that mean, Rob? Pretty vague.

Yeah, well, listen, we're going to see what even comes to fruition. And who knows, maybe this deal is better than as being projected or painted. But it feels like we're just back to the Donald Trump standard. That when Obama gives them $1.7 billion their money back, it's the worst disaster. wherever and it's a pathway to a bomb. When I give them $12 billion in their money back, well, this was only their money and it's not going to be used for a bomb,

and you can trust that they're never going to get a bomb. It's just back to the Donald Trump standard. Well, since Donald Trump said it, it's accurate. Same as why I'm so gracious that Europe still exists and that Israel is still on the map because Donald Trump said that they wouldn't exist, unless previous actions it had already taken. So if you're living your life by the Donald Trump standard,

then, yeah, I guess the money going over now when it's through Donald Trump is not a problem. It was only a problem when Obama did it. I'm telling you, though, man, this is another prediction I've been making this whole time. But I said that even if Donald Trump comes back now, he's still ruined and he's not going to be able to sell this. And this is not going to work. I mean, don't get me wrong, Rob. It'll work with like a small enough percentage.

But Donald Trump, this is, he's going to get beat up on this. Dude, before we leave, I have to play. I did not see any of this until you sent it over, Rob. but here was J.D. Vance was on Hannity last night. Let's just go to the YouTube video that Rob said in the email, Natalie. Let's just go to the second clip. It was 12 minutes, 25 seconds. It's just the two of them, even to Hannity's audience,

the way they're trying to sell this is really something. Let's play. President always says, Sean, do we trust anyone? No, we don't trust anyone. We do verify and we do extend this hand and say, look, if you guys are willing to change, we're willing to change how we've dealt with you too. Let's talk about any place, anywhere, anytime U.S. inspectors? Is that part of the deal?

Yeah, that's absolutely something that we are negotiating over Sean. That's one of the final details that's going to be figured out here is if you go back to the original Obama JCPOA, there are a couple of big problems with it. Number one, by the way, is that the Gulf Arabs hated. You just pause it. Pause it already for a second. It's just everything. I just love that Hannity.

I don't know why even Hannity had this in his mind. But he just goes, and like he almost said it. Like he was selling the deal. Like he said it in like a WWF like promo cut. But he goes and also Rob, U.S. inspections, anytime, anywhere, any place, intercontinental title on the line, you know, just anywhere. And then J.D. Vance just has to hit him with the,

well, that is exactly. what is TBA in the second phase of this memorandum. Like once you get the memorandum, there'll be something in there about how there's a new phase of negotiations. And that is exactly the type of thing we'll be talking about. Yeah. So in other words, no, no, you didn't get that. And look, man, I mean, there's a whole lot of interesting stuff here about what, look,

there's, I'll say this almost like before maybe we wrap up here. I'll say this and then you can have the last word, Rob, but there is something where one of the possibilities that's beginning to emerge here, right, is that the Iranians are describing the deal as something very different than what the Americans are describing it as right now. As we pointed out on the last show and I think was implicit in this show, even what they're describing, forget what the difference is. What they agree on is essentially an admission that we lost this war. But there's still, now it's possible that the language of the memorandum of understanding is going to be somewhat vague on some of this stuff.

Like even as you hear J.D. Vance describe it. You're like, this all sounds very vague. What exactly does this mean? And then you're going to be in this area where both sides can claim for the next 60 days that they're not following through. This wasn't really the deal. That wasn't the deal. And so it'll be interesting then. Who knows, Rob, we could get, we may not get this memorandum. signed. We might get 30 days into this and Iran closes the straight of Hermus again because Israel's bomb in Lebanon or because they say the Americans aren't given them access to the money or who, you know, so many questions. It's still a big mess. The one thing that's clear is that we never should have launched this goddamn war and we lost it. Anyway, final thoughts to you.

One more option is the language is vague and then Donald Trump goes, I tried everything I could to make a deal. We can't reason with them and then actually bombs them into oblivion. But it was funny watching this interview because by the end, Hannity's having a hard time selling it and it's a bitter pill to swallow. And he even concludes with, you know, I'm having a hard time. I always thought that these guys were the worst people ever. And so I hope you guys are right. It's something along those lines.

It's basically the way it concludes. That is something. All right. Listen, we will catch you guys tomorrow. Brand new episode. Thank you for watching. Come on out, Denver, Colorado this weekend. really looking forward to seeing,

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