Part Of The Problem - Trump Admits It All

Episode Date: December 18, 2025

Dave Smith brings you the latest in politics! On this episode of Part Of The Problem, Dave and Robbie "The Fire" Bernstein talk about the recent terrorist attack in Australia, Donald Trump's tweet regarding Rob Reiner's death, the wildest statements made by trump at his Hanukkah reception, and more.Order Lauren Smith’s book here: https://a.co/d/67djjBpSupport Our Sponsors:The Wellness Company - For the men! Balance hormones naturally with MARS from The Wellness Company! https://twc.health/problem and use code PROBLEM for 10% + Free Shipping on all orders.Proton - Get Proton Drive using Dave's exclusive offer! -https://www.proton.me/davesmithRidge - https://ridge.com/potp10Express VPN: https://www.expressvpn.com/problemPart Of The Problem is available for early pre-release at https://partoftheproblem.com as well as an exclusive episode on Thursday!PORCH TOUR DATES HERE:https://www.eventbrite.com/cc/porch-tour-2025-4222673Find Run Your Mouth here:YouTube - http://youtube.com/@RunYourMouthiTunes - https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/run-your-mouth-podcast/id1211469807Spotify - https://open.spotify.com/show/4ka50RAKTxFTxbtyPP8AHmFollow the show on social media:X:http://x.com/ComicDaveSmithhttp://x.com/RobbieTheFireInstagram:http://instagram.com/theproblemdavesmithhttp://instagram.com/robbiethefire#libertarian See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

what is up everybody welcome to a brand new episode of part of the problem i am dave smith he is robbie the fire bernstein how are you doing sir but i've been editing my ass off i don't like working this hard so uh everybody go over to the robby the fire channel on youtube this upcoming sunday the first ever episode of uh porching is coming out and then uh two or three weeks later will be the second episode And then, of course, last headlining gig of the year in Denver this weekend, Steambo, Colorado, Friday, Saturday, Sunday, day drinker, 1 p.m. So a lot going on.

And please go check it out. Totally free. Work my ass off. You can see what Adderall can do. So Robbie the Fire Channel, all one word. How's the family doing? You guys pulling through flu season? Oh, man.

Yeah, no, we've gotten, the Smith family is down for the count. We have gotten knocked on our ass. um yeah i apologize guys for for this being the first episode of the week the whole family has gone down with the flu minus me so far and i'll tell you rob i think i got it i think this is me i literally think i'm like about to it's it's a weird feeling also to watch like the flu is a gut i mean this thing is a bitch so my whole family's been so sick the last few days i've been trying to take care of them as best i can but you know men we're we're really not built to do this i'm getting it done everybody's alive everyone's getting their medicine on time that it looks like a tornado ripped

through my house i don't know how my wife takes care of these kids uh every day um are you like standing in the kitchen yelling like how the hell do you microwave soup no i'm not i could microwave soup dude i can't do much more than that but i could do that for sure um i can make some eggs and you know some sandwiches and stuff um no but it's just like watching them all and then just today it's starting to hit me where it's like you just feel it in you and it's the flu so i know i'm going down like a sack of bricks as soon as this really takes me down um but anyway i wanted to make sure i literally got them there they're all sleeping right now so i was like let me get an episode out because we haven't had one out this week i have a feeling i might go down and not be able to get

one out for the next couple days we're going to have to play this by ear um and so much has happened it's like so many things have happened you know rob like sometimes we have these slow weeks and now of course the week that uh that my family's sick is uh just everything so it's almost like i felt like we had to get on here to like oh man me and you got to get on the record with our feelings and thoughts about these 10 things that just happened um so i guess um we could start with this uh the the tragic terrorist attack that happened in australia a few days ago um which you know what I don't know. What can you say about these things? Like, for people who don't know, there are two gunmen open fire in Australia at a Hanukkah celebration.

I think like 15 people, including a little girl, were killed. I know as I'm sitting here trying to take care of my family, I haven't been very up on the news. But I, you know, I'll read the news a little bit or I'll check Twitter. And of course, like, you know, I'm flooded with, oh, how come Dave hasn't denounced? this terrorist attack or you know people people trying to like score points off this i always find like i you know for as much as i love what me and you do rob i love doing this show i love talking about this stuff i just hope i'm never that devout devoid of like a soul that i ever just like my first thing when there's a tragedy like this is to try to you know what i mean like slam the other side

or make a political point. And also it's like, what do you want me to say, dude? Like, obviously, it's just horrible and tragic and totally inexcusable and unjustified, but it doesn't really feel like it adds that much to the conversation when it happens. Like, you know, if Israel was doing what they're doing to Gaza and it was happening in the context of it's universally agreed upon

that this is evil and wrong, the people who perpetrated it have either been, killed or arrested. I think the surviving, you know, shooter just woke up today to find that he's charged with terrorism and murder and all this stuff. It's like, if that was the case, I probably wouldn't be going around for two years. You know what I mean? Like if the first bomb got dropped and then Netanyahu got arrested and was about to face, you know, justice or whatever. So I don't know. It's obviously horrible. And yeah, what else can you say, Rob? All right, guys, let's take a moment and thank our sponsor for today's show, which is the Wellness Company. We've all heard the

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All right. let's get back into the show uh in case anyone needed to hear from us please uh don't go on killing sprees do not uh murder innocent civilians jewish people around the world do not deserve to be uh killed at jewish events just because of what's going on in gaza and israel i don't know are there other other are there other other obvious statements that need to be stated uh if not you get slammed on twitter what else do we have to cover well anti-semitism is bad people that uh push for anti-Semitism should do less of that. Maybe there's too much anti-Semitism on Twitter. Muslims that decide to join ISIS and immigrated into countries and then perpetrate terrorist

attacks are bad. What else? I'm, no one, can we get just like a list of like the statements before you address a topic of what needs to be stated? Yeah. And, you know, it's especially it's interesting, like with all the attempted, you know, like owns about this type of situation. it's like no dude dummy we're not we're not caught in a pickle here like this is obvious it's like for the same exact reason that even if a fucking guy in Hamas comes in and shoots up a bunch of teenagers at a music festival you're still not justified in killing some little girl in Gaza because she didn't do anything to you she's an innocent civilian and for the exact same reason no matter what israel does to the Palestinians you're not justified

just opening fire into some goddamn Hanukkah celebration in Australia. Like, it's not difficult to come to that. I guess the other thing I've seen a bit of online is that, of course, as just seems to be the new normal, there's a bunch of people who jump to conclusions about, you know, this being a false flag or something like that. And, you know, I guess I'm like, I'm of two minds about these things like, number one, I just don't do that.

I don't jump to conclusions because that feels right or that would confirm my bias or something like that. I just don't like doing that. And so I do, I am immediately turned off by people who jump to wild conspiratorial conclusions that aren't based on evidence, particularly when they kind of fake this certainty about it. always what kind of gets me. But I also do understand where like, you know, like every single institution, the all-encompassing establishment can only get caught doing horrible things,

committing awful crimes and lying through their fucking teeth about it so many times before people just start to assume that every big awful event is another example of them doing that. So it's not like I don't have some sympathy for people on that track, but I would just say that with events like this, you know, like, look, blowback, even horrifically unjustifiable blowback is a real phenomenon. And the, you know, the CIA are the ones who coined the term blowback. And they didn't coin it because they were trying to like come up with a moral political theory or something like that or talk about when it's justified to use force or retaliate. They did it just for analytic purposes, just to understand what's going on.

And I do think that just like for all the people jumping on the conspiracies, it's like, no, dude, like, you know, Israel has essentially been, you know, whatever, if you want to call it a genocide or you want to just say, it's not a genocide, but they're just committing mass slaughter and torture and intentionally inflicting starvation upon a captive people. whatever in the range of things you could describe it as. This has been going on for two years. It's broadcast all over the place. And like there's like a billion and a half Muslims in the world. There's spread all out in different countries more so than ever, thanks to recent immigration policy. There's also Jews all around in all these groups. And it's just not that crazy that one of them might just blame the Jews and decide to take out an act of violence on it.

Now, I'm not even saying I know that's what the story is here. It seems like that's probably the story. But again, like, just to be clear, like that can also happen. Not everything has to be an op or an inside job or a false flag. I think it's easy to try and create narratives. There's also a possibility that if nothing happened in Gaza and Israel, there's crazy individuals out there. There are people that gravitate towards ISIS. There's people that gravitate towards anti-Semitism, people that engage.

in mass shootings. There's a bit of a problem with the narrative here and that it's a bit of a chicken egg vicious cycle where Jews can point to this and go, you see this is exactly the Muslim extremist anti-Semitism. And that's why we have to behave in the way that we do. And you guys are lucky that we're here doing this. And then other people being able to say, no, this is only a reaction to what you're doing. You know what I mean? Like you can easily like try and point to either narrative and then say, well, which one came first? So like a chicken and egg thing or this might have just been some crazy Muslim. I guess, no, look, that's certainly the case, right?

But people can make the arguments on both sides. And look, I mean, this is the case with the entire Israel-Palestine conflict. Like, each side claims that they're just reacting to the other side, right? So, like, Israel will always say, well, look, October 7th. So obviously, we had to do all this. But then, like, you know, like somebody who's a Palestinian activist could easily say, yeah, but look at this brutal occupation. so obviously we had to do this or obviously that's why this happened.

That's why everyone needs to go watch Planet of the Apes. It's just the fear of other. Well, but look, I mean, it's hard for me, and I think this was something I always like just kind of the more I started reading about the Israel-Palestine conflict is that even though both sides can do that, it does just seem to me that one side obviously has a superior claim to that. Because like you could change. It's like, yes, dude, the, the, the, the, the,

Destruction of Gaza, you could say, was a reaction to October 7th, which was a reaction to the 60-year occupation, which was a reaction to the 1967 war, which was a reaction to Egypt amassing its troops on Israel's borders, which was a reaction to Israel's war 10 years earlier with Egypt, which was a reaction to, you know, like you could go all the, which was a reaction to, which was a reaction to, which was a reaction to, which was a reaction to a bunch of Eastern Europeans deciding that they were going to create a Jewish state in the middle. of Arab land and in the process of that ethnically cleansed, like 750,000 of them out of their land. That's kind of the real start. You know what I mean? Like it's just, it's hard to not look at that on paper and go, no, this one is clear. And likewise, it's like the problem, I know people say, oh, look at the Barbary Wars or something like that.

Oh, they'll point to like Islamic like conquest from like 2,000 years ago. But there's no straight line from any of that to the issues that we're dealing with today. And the fact is that America was largely popular in the Middle East. The West was not as hated. We were dealing with this most recent iteration of this terrorism problem in the same way that the English dealt with the terrorism problem when they tried to dominate the Irish. In the same way that the Native Americans violently resisted the Europeans taken over the continent, slaves violently resisted slaves violently resisted slaves. I just think it's like kind of, you know, now, look, I'm not saying that's, that's exactly the case in a thing like Australia, but I do think that, like, to your point, yes, it's true.

There could be crazy people and there could be crazy people who would even do this or something like this, but you drastically increase the likelihood of that. You drastically increase how easy it is to recruit people. Like there's, you know, as Scott Horton always likes to talk about the story, right? It was like Israel, like, attacked Lebanon, and he signed up with Osama bin Laden a week later because they killed like a bunch of kids in their attack. It's like that is like it or not. This is why I bring up the CIA point.

This is just analysis. Like it or not, when you slaughter a bunch of innocent people, that is the type of thing who some men will see and they will decide they're going to go slaughter some innocent people. It doesn't justify it at all. but it is kind of a tendency of human nature and even though we do it with our big sophisticated governments at the same time it's kind of the same justification right like is like hey you did october 7th so we're going to go slaughter a whole bunch of innocent people in the process of our response to that and it feels a little bit different when you just go out and target them um

like just there's you're not even hiding behind the pretense of like a military operation but at the same time in effect it's the same thing in intention it's the same thing the the grieving you know families of these poor you know these poor 15 families in australia they're experiencing the exact same thing that a whole bunch of mothers and fathers and brothers and sisters and grandmothers and gaza have experienced over the last two years none of it's good um all right did we can we move on from that did we mention that we're against it rub yes don't Don't kill innocent civilians and don't engage in anti-Semitism. Yeah.

Yeah. Well, look, I mean, I think I guess I saw Pierce Morgan had some. And by the way, and that's not to the exclusion of other things that you shouldn't do. Just in case someone reads that as an endorsement of something I forgot on the list. Well, I saw Pierce, which was interesting to me, because Pierce Morgan, you know, is he's played an interesting role in this whole thing. but I saw he had a post that a lot of people were really flipping out about but where he basically just said that the actions of the Israeli government have made Jews all over the world less safe

and people are really jumping on him and saying that that's some type of like you know um you know like blaming the victim type thing but it's not blaming it's not blaming the victim he wasn't blaming Jews everywhere who are less safe over that I think it's an undeniable, accurate statement. I think since the beginning of what's happened in Gaza, people have tried, in my opinion, and in your opinion as well, to pretend that the only reason why people object to it is because of anti-Semitism.

And you and I have argued, no, you're not allowed to do this, and this is going to cause anti-Semitism. And it seems like Piers Morgan is making a similar statement there that, hey, what you guys are doing is so horrible. it's inciting people to this and let's not pretend like this is just raw anti-Semitism. Yeah, no, I mean, I think that's right.

And also the other thing, which I have made a point to say several different times over the last couple years, but I'm like legitimately worried about the threat of terrorism over all this shit. I mean, I think it's crazy. Like in the United States of America, I mean, it hit Australia here. We've seen

obviously we've seen like mass protests. We've seen incidents of violence and murders. and things like that. But the idea that, like, you know, the world knows that we're funded in this thing. We are, people are watching in 4K, just the mass slaughter of Palestinian children. And Joe Biden just let, like, millions of people in the country that are unaccounted for. We got millions of Muslims in this country.

And there are all types of, like, terrorist cells around the world. I think, like, an act, and not, I'm not saying a false flag or something like that. I'm saying, like, just a real deal. active terrorism is a dangerous possibility. And those are part of the costs, as the great Pap Buchanan said. Terrorism is the price of empire. And that's essentially what it is. You think you could just dominate people.

Again, like, if you just think about it, like, in life, in any way, like, just using, like, your own human experience and intuition, like, you think you could totally dominate anyone in your life and like there's no repercussions for that you can just like if i just if you just wanted to dominate your child or your girlfriend or your you know elderly father or whoever i think there's not going to be like any problems that's not usually how human beings work um and uh yeah anyway okay so let's uh let's move off of this kind of depressing subject and um rob uh rob riner and his wife were killed by his son so that's nice it was not sorry go ahead no no i i i wouldn't say it's nice yeah no it's uh it's i wouldn't say it's nice either i agree with you on that and if i could

if i could speak to rob riner's son that's what i would say right now that was not nice um i don't listen horrible tragedy obviously a crazy story um somebody rob riner really was like a uh a a staple of American culture for many, many decades, right? Like he was, he was the son-in-law on, what's the name of the show? Well, I think it started all in the family, but he's had a roster of hits. And then just movies and movies. Yeah, yeah, it was like crazy long career. And like, so for someone that famous to meet an end like that is pretty disturbing. Anyway, weird. I guess, like, the main thing just to bring it up, though, is just you kind of bring up that Donald Trump tweet, which is, I mean, Jesus Christ, Rob, even for Donald Trump, just the craziest goddamn shit

you've ever seen in your entire life. Yeah. I mean, when someone's murdered by their own kid, I think it's a time class, and I say that is a rotten comedian. And even if a comic had tweeted something along those lines, I mean, I probably wouldn't say anything publicly, but in conversation, I'd be like, dude, what's wrong with this person? And so when Donald Trump is taking as an opportunity to make that. the backhanded, no one cared about this guy and he was a despicable or, you know.

He died of TDS, like just so, oh. Yeah, it's, uh, I mean, I would say it to a comic, but particularly of the president. You got to have a little bit of class. It's, it's really wild, dude. And it also, I don't know, it just showed something about how out of touch Donald Trump is. It's just like, wait, what, dude? You thought in this situation, that joke would land? because it's just so bizarre and again it does look man i mean i'll tell you i got a pretty thick

skin for um for criticisms of myself on you know on on line or whatever you know if you're in this business you're just you're going to take a lot of you know different types of you know criticism and sure that's that's fine um but man i will say one rub that does kind of get to me is when I will see it, uh, where people, um, like went up, because I'm just very harsh on Donald Trump, particularly these days. And people go, oh, Dave's TDS is showing again. Like, yeah, oh, yeah, it's my Trump derangement syndrome, Rob. And it's just, it's unbelievable because it's like, you, you motherfuckers, you motherfuckers, you motherfuckers, first of all, nobody has been fairer to Donald Trump than may. I've just hit him for the shit that he deserves to be criticized for. But of all these other guys, like,

Of all these guys, and you know, I don't even know what the answer is, but I know the answer, Rob. But all the, watch all of these political content, political commentators and, and YouTube, you know, podcasters and all this. Watch any of like the pro-Trump pundits. Tell me they were as good as me and you were on Russia Gate, like as good at the time of that and all that shit down. Half these, uh, half these guys who are the, you know, the ones suck in Donald Trump's dick, saying he's the first Jewish president or whatever.

Half of them were never Trumpers, bought into Russia Gate, pushed Russia Gate. You know, like, it's just, no, dude, I've been, like, me and you were, like, through his entire rise, whether it was him being framed as a Russian spy, whether it was the ridiculous, like, Ukraine Gate, January 6th, immediately on January 6th, like, we defended them against all the bullshit attack. when the corporate media was coming at him. But then, like, I'm sorry, there are these other very legitimate attacks. Like, you're going to tell me that if I'm, like, pissed off that Donald Trump kept Anthony Fauci on the job through all of 2020 and made him the face of the COVID pandemic response,

when he could have fired him and just selected any other epidemiologist, any other virologist to do the job, that what, that's not a legitimate criticism? Should he, should he have been championing lockdowns into the summer of 2020? and like mocking, you know, Sweden for not locking down and talking about how much they were going to, you know, how many deaths they were going to be facing. So like, I don't know. We had, anyway, the point is we're not the one. You're the one with the fucking derangement syndrome, dude.

If you think this tweet isn't like, I was going to say in poor taste, that's such an understatement, like tasteless, just disgusting, dude. And again, Rob, you're not, you know, being a comedian, if you're trying to make a joke, even a really, really dark joke. There is a certain license that you have for that. I don't give a shit what you try. But like, dude, you're the president of the United States of America. Just on some human level, a couple, an old married couple were murdered by their own child.

And you think, like, you're such a goddamn delusional narcissist that the only thing you think about in that moment is yourself. There's literally nothing other than the fact you go, he was a big critic of me, and that's what you get. and then you're going to go blast that i don't know dude just come on if you can't if you can't at least just admit you like if it was politically convenient for you one of your political opponents did that you'd be like oh what a piece of shit what a what a godless soulless monster i don't know it's just horrible or maybe trump concerns for the uh safety and well-being of all americans and he's letting you know that unless you pledge your full allegiance to donald trump and you can open up eyes to how wonderful the economy is

to why we need this war in Venezuela until all these other causes you won't be at risk of being murdered from your own children so honestly he's doing us all a favor and letting us know about the harms that can come our way if we don't pledge allegiance to the Donald Trump agenda and

quit criticizing the incredulness and the greatness that he's already brought our country that can only be greater if we follow more of his whims and common sense I know right like it's just we're just we're just supposed to walk into a war with Venezuela and celebrate the whole thing or something, which we'll probably talk more about Venezuela over the next few days or whenever exactly

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they'll ask where you heard about them. Make sure you let them know part of the problem that'll help us out thank you very much let's get back into the show all right i guess that's that's enough on that i wanted to hit a couple other things um number one i guess there was a big there was a bit of a big controversy over me going on the megan kelly show uh the other day and we just haven't done an episode since then so i haven't really responded to it so i thought briefly i would say it was an interesting kind of turn of events so megan had hinted uh that she had

something to say about Candace and Erica Kirk, but that she didn't want to say it yet when I was on with her. I think it was on Friday. And so anyway, we figured out what that was, which is that she had been instrumental in organizing the two of them meeting up. But so Megan Kelly had me on the show. So Megan Kelly has me on the show, and she opens up with like a 15-minute monologue,

essentially talking about how she thinks Tyler Robinson is the killer and that all these conspiracies are. wrong and that you know people don't really know what they're talking about there's a reason why we haven't gotten more information there's a reason why there are gag orders the process is going forward and blah blah no i i'd be completely honest i thought what she said was pretty reasonable um i did make a couple like points when i first came out that like i was like well you know the the presumption of innocence is a thing so we should all treat this like tyler robinson is innocent until the state can prove their case uh let's hope there's cameras in the courtroom and

have an open process here as much as possible. And then I went off on how, you know, the reason why nobody trusts the government anymore and nobody trusts this Justice Department. And she couldn't, she didn't disagree with any of that. But so anyway, I guess in effect, what ended up happening as I'm watching the response to this episode is that here's Megan Kelly, who first of all, it's just always been cool to me over the years. I've always really liked Megan Kelly.

I think she's somebody who I probably disagree with on several important issues. as she said she's very pro-Israel i certainly obviously disagree with her on that but she has really gone out of her way i think to be fair to me personally tucker carlson candace owens charlie kirk when he was still alive um and of course there's anyway so i really like megan i thought and i didn't think there was anything too unreasonable that she said in that interview but so it ends up happening rob as you've probably seen this dynamic before i uh half like Like the whole Zionist half of her, the whole Israel lobby flips out that she's having me on. So she's taken a ton of shit from them just for hosting me.

Like even before the episode was out when she just tweeted that she's having me on today, all the, you know, usual suspects are out there. How could you platform self-hating Jew, blah, blah, blah, whatever. And then she's taken also a whole bunch of heat from the conspiracy, you know, the people who buy into the Charlie Kirk conspiracy first saying that she thinks Tyler Robinson did it. So anyway, I'm just watching her get heat from kind of both sides for doing absolutely nothing wrong.

And I think for being, so I did want to just say, Megan Kelly's cool. You guys are out of your mind. Like even you guys who like, I'd say at least to the people more on my broadly speaking side of this, like even if you think Israel killed Charlie Kirk or you think there's some crazy conspiracy involved here. Okay. Megan Kelly's still the one who hosted Charlie Kirk and has. had that amazing show where they both talked about all the pressure he was under and all that

shit. So, like, just in the grander scheme of this game, give her a break. There's a lot of people who are really shitty. She's kind of gone out of her way to be at least fair. I don't know. I thought I would just say something like that. I like Megan Kelly. I side with her against the horde.

Sorry, I just wanted to get that out. People, you're one of these characters that people like to censor and then criticize for for being platform, which, uh, obviously, I don't think you, uh, have any views that should be censored. Uh, and it's a ridiculous game. The, hey, don't talk to that person. There's, um, did you know this, Rob? Because I wanted to see. So Josh Hammer, I ended up trashing Josh Hammer when I was on the show and then, um, I did, I did see that clip and he fully deserves it. Yes. Well, so it, he's easy to trash. And then I didn't know she was going to enjoy it as much as I did, but then she got in there and started trashing him too. And he referred to me as a,

he made a response. I haven't watched it, but someone just sent me this. Oh, no, I'm sorry, I did watch this. Someone sent me the clip. But then they also sent me the, the quotes. He called me, I've never heard this before, Rob, so I had to look this up to find out what it means. But he called me a self-hating Hellenized Jew. And I was like Hellenized, like Helen of Troy? Like what does a Hellenized Jew mean? Have you ever heard that before, Rob? I have not. It's a first. Okay. So this is what I got when I looked it up. In Jewish history, a quote, Hellenized Jew often refers to Jews who assimilated into Greek secular culture, sometimes at the expense of traditional Jewish law, identity, or religious practice.

So I don't know why. I just, first of all, it's so funny for like, of all people, for Josh Hammer to have a problem with me being platformed. Like, you got to have a certain amount of entitlement to, to, like, I've debated Josh Hammer twice and I smoked him both times. This is not, like, I've had debates where I've smoked people. debates where they were close. I've had debates where some people thought

other decisions. Even like no one's saying Josh Hammer won, either of those goddamn debates. He just got fucking smoked in both of them. It's like the nerve of you to go debate someone, have nothing for them, and then still pretend that they shouldn't get platformed. But then on top of that, imagine, again, Rob,

just like the unbelievable lack of self-awareness. So like in this environment, that's your criticism of me, that I'm a Hellenized Jew. your criticism is what, that I'm an American first? Is that really, that's really the big criticism of me? But this Dave Smith doesn't even prioritize, doesn't even prioritize loyalty toward a foreign country because they call themselves the Jewish state.

It's amazing that you just say that part out loud, that that's actually your beef with me. Your beef with me is that while I'm Jewish and while I don't have anything bad to say about Jewish people or Jewish culture or the Jewish religion or the Jewish tradition. In fact, I see a lot of beauty and all of those things. While I don't have anything bad to say about that, I'm still bad because I don't prioritize my identity as Jewish above my country, above my community. I don't, like, it really is like this very bizarre supremacy that you're actually angry at someone else. Why? Because in my in my day-to-day life in my community, I don't think of myself as like the other separate, perhaps above, perhaps chosen over the rest of my community. No, I just look at

it like, I don't know, we're a bunch of families trying to raise our kids and we're all kind in the same. Our kids go to school together and they play baseball. I don't know. Isn't that a weird criticism to have, Rob, a hellinized Jew? The second you read that, definition. I was thinking exactly what you ended up saying, which is that doesn't sound very American first to go, hey, this guy, he's too Americanized, so you shouldn't listen to his opinions. Yeah, I mean, just have the balls to say it then, Josh Hammer. I mean, look, dude, you're not, no matter how much you try to fool people, no one thinks you're that smart. So just be honest at least, right? Like, you're not, you're not the guy who's got a huge audience. You're not

the guy who's moving the masses. You're not the guy who's winning debates. No matter how much you try to pretend, you're not the guy who's counseling other people on how to win debates or move the needle. You don't do that. So at least just tell the truth. Go, I'm Jewish first. If you're going to criticize other people for being a Hellenized Jew seems to me like that would be fair. Now, listen, this is the definition that I came up with when I looked at it. I don't know what the hell else it's supposed to mean. But so that's a, I don't know. I just thought it was, that was wild. And I saw the way he's going out. after Megan Kelly super vicious with her he's so butt hurt and it's just like dude like I don't know

what to say dude you're not on like Josh Hammer is in this conversation just to be a punching bag he's not really in this conversation and Josh Hammer doesn't have an audience like Megan Kelly or Candace Owens doesn't have an audience like us like I I don't know anyway it's sucks so bad when I guess you can work the formal corporate scene and be the editor of Newsweek and thinking, man, do I have the credentials that everyone's going to sit down and be like, what does this guy have to say? But the second you go on the internet and people don't really care about what their credentials are, it's more of the arguments you can present, how well you can present them, you just get reduced to zero in that arena. And I could see why that really

messes with the dude's mind. I remember experiencing this a lot in the libertarian world when I first kind of, when the podcast first started taking off, there'd be that all these people at, like, at reason, at Cato, within the Libertarian Party, these people just, like, hated my guts. And it was always just obvious that the reason they resented me so much. And like, you can kind of understand why this is, but they'll be like, dude, I've been a professional libertarian for 26 years. I worked at Cato.

I was an intern. Then I got promoted to this, then I got this. that, then I got this thing, then I, you know, oversaw all Eastern studies or whatever, you know, and like, they're like, dude, I'm in the Libertarian Party. They'd be like, dude, I'm the chair of the whatever state libertarian party. And you're telling me, you get to just skip all of those steps and be way more influential in this world than me. And it's like, yeah, I don't know. I mean, it's like, look, I get, I get why you feel like you put in your dues. And so you deserve a little bit more respect, but at the same time, why is that actually correct? Why is it correct that

because you were able to ask kiss some gatekeeper, and I wasn't, that you therefore deserve to be further up the ranks than me? And I don't care how much time you spent at the Cato Institute writing policy papers that never got implemented anyway. Why the hell shouldn't the guy who just has a message that resonates with the audience get more influence than you? Now, it seems to me like the new system's a lot more fair than the old system, but, you know, I am a bit biased. that is a bit self-serving, I guess, for me to feel that way. But does seem fair to me. All right, guys, let's take a moment and thank our sponsor for today's show,

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i'm somebody at this point whatever like we got a pretty big show we got i don't even know how many but we got several hundred thousand subscribers on youtube and we get good views on spotify and rumble and wherever you know i'm on rogan and tucker and kandis and pbd and tim pool and i'm on like the the biggest like political shows it's like me kerry wants to have me on oh oh but Josh Hammer objects. Who the fuck are you, son? Sit down. You're not in that realm.

You're not in the top tier of people who like have the biggest audiences who are the most relevant in this fucking space. You're some dude. You're some dude. Like literally you're known because you were in the room with Charlie Kirk and I smoked you twice in a debate. That's why people know who you are. That's it.

It's some job at Newsweek. Nobody cares. Anyway, it's like we we respect that about as much. much as like a conservative would be like, oh, you, this guy had a job at Planned Parenthood. This guy, this guy was, was, you know, appointed by Obama to be the board of green energy for some department. Like, oh, okay. That don't impress none of us.

Anyway, all right, let's, let's move on to play some of these clips of Donald Trump the other day, which this really was quite a spectacle, huh, Rob? So Donald Trump, we've got him with Miriam Adelson, his biggest. donor and a few more, one with Mark Levin. Let's play in no particular order. I think we got three clips here. Let's play these and go through it. As president of the United States, I will always support Jewish Americans, and I will always

be a friend and a champion to the Jewish people. I have been, and I will say, you know, if you go back, 10. 12, 15 years ago, the most. The strongest lobby in Washington was the Jewish lobby. It was Israel. That's no longer true. You have to be very careful. You have a Congress in particular, which is becoming anti-Semitic. You have AOC plus three. You have those people. Ilhan Omar. She hates Jewish people. And you have to be very careful because there's been a big... Like, by the way, can you just pause it for a second? I just love when he says this part out loud.

There's one thing about Donald Trump you got to appreciate is that he'll say this. Every other president, much like the tweet after Rob Reiner, every other president that's ever existed would have gone, I'm not supposed to say this part out loud. This is the thing I'm supposed to keep from everybody else. But Donald Trump will just start. First of all, if we could just run some numbers on this real quick, so Donald Trump goes, you know, the Jewish lobby used to be the most powerful lobby.

They're not anymore, dude. I mean, look at this Congress. You got AOC plus three. You got Elon Omar. By the way, that's one of the plus three. So if you're keeping up so far, we're up to four. Right? Okay.

535 seats. It's giving you four. There's four critics of Israel. I mean, whatever. We could throw Thomas Massey and, you know, Marjorie Taylor Green and Rand Paul on a good day in there. but what are you up to here? A little over a handful. What?

Oh, yeah, then we have the other 520. That's how anti-Israel our Congress is, Rob. But I don't know. Yeah, just how can you openly say there's a lobby on behalf of a foreign country that used to be all-powerful? And you see, the problem is, Rob, now they're only almost all-power. we got a real issue on our hands here america first america first yeah there's something even just cringe about the president being up there like i stand with all jewish we don't live in a climate of

a real deal anti-semitism that i think warrants like i don't know if he was up there going off about the indians of america or any other subculture i'm a little bit like why is this going on from the white house i understand christian events you know that's the majority of the country and most the presidents pretend to be good wholesome christians so i i understand like uh like a christmas lighting but even just like the placating or grand gestures towards the subgroup it i don't know there's something about it that is a little off to me yeah no i i completely agree and i think that obviously like there's a whole you know the look the israel slash um israel lobby slash jewish question type stuff is it is the most like third rail issue in our

politics there's really not anything else that gets more of a like a i don't know like a charge out of talking about it and for many years there was very very tight control over it you'd lose your job if anyone even brought any of the stuff up and and it's in in a very kind of unsustainable way because It's like even what Donald Trump's saying right now, you could say it if you're for it. You could say the Jewish lobby has complete control over the United States of America if you're Donald Trump and you're praising it. You'll notice Josh Hammer, Ben Shapiro, Douglas Murray, none of these guys are going to be offended over Donald Trump saying this, right? It's okay to say it if you're for it. But if you say it and you're against it, all the guys I just named hate your fucking guts.

Even if they agree with you on everything else, you could have, if I had Barry, Weiss's identical politics down to every single issue, except that, I was against the Israel lobby. She'd hate my fucking guts, right? So, like, that's the, and so that's, and now their mechanism of control is gone. And so there's a real charge. There's a lot of people are saying the most anti-Jewish thing they can think of. A lot of people are having fun trolling and joking about it.

And so that makes it easy for people to go. And then if you have an incident like you have in Australia, like a few things you've had in Europe, people go, oh, my God, look at this. You know, we live in that. From the perspective of two American Jews, we're kind of like, eh, this is not exactly a society turned against Jewish people. Everything's still kind of fine, broadly speaking. So anyway, I guess that's a big part of the disconnect. By the way, I should say, I just got Dave DeCamp just texted me, as we're on the show, with his piece that evidently a source is saying that Donald Trump is going to announce war with Venezuela tonight.

So that's the piece running at anti-war.com. Assuming I am still in one piece, maybe I will try my best to get Dave on the show to talk about this tomorrow. But anyway, just wanted to update that piece of information. Let's go back to this clip and then we can discuss. I'm not Jewish, but my father was very friendly with many, many Jewish people was honored by Federation. I would go with him to Federation of Jewish Philanthropies and many other things. And we grew up respecting and loving Jewish people. You know, you don't even think about it,

in Brooklyn and Queens mostly. And my father didn't go to Manhattan. He never went to Manhattan from the standpoint. He could never understand how in Brooklyn you could buy a piece of land for $3 a foot, and how in Manhattan you had to pay $1,000 a foot. He said, I can't get that. I don't like it. I like to buy it for three.

So it was different. It's a different thinking. thinking in a way i'm glad he didn't do that because he let me have some of that fun and it was i had a lot of fun in manette and we did great but my father would tell me the most powerful can't pause second that there is in this country was that a jews or cheap joke i mean i'm not i'm practically jewish because my dad you know he wouldn't pay ten dollars she goes i mean i'm not I'm not technically Jewish, but my dad was cheap as shit. I kind of get it, right?

You throw in a synagogue visit, and that's pretty much the whole thing. I mean, he's not far off. All right, let's keep going. Is the Jewish lobby. It's the Israeli lobby. It's not that way anymore. You have a lot of people in your way. You have a lot of people that don't want to help Israel.

You have a lot of people in Congress that don't like. Israel. You have a lot of people in Congress that, in a way, I think Mike, we could say it, right? You're there. You're doing an amazing job, Michael Lola. They hate Israel. They hate Israel. And if you would have told me 15 years ago that that was possible, Jason, I would have said there's no way. There's no way there's possible. But it's happening. And obviously, it's getting progressively worse, less so in the Senate, but the Senate's starting also. You get glimmers, you know, when I'm in the back room talking to people, you get glimmers of statements that you say, whoa, where did that come from?

So we have to be... Pause it for a second. We have to be very careful. You get glimmers of statements. Like, where'd that come from? Like, the statements are probably like, they sure are killing a lot of kids with those weapons we just gave from.

You're like, yo, dude, easy on the Jew hatred. Anyway, whatever. I mean, that's the essence of the clip there. But Donald Trump just openly being like they're... It's just too wild. You can't even believe he says it out loud. And he's like, look, dude, there's this foreign lobby used to control us. And now it's, you know, I mean, obviously policy-wise, it's still controlling us.

But like, you know, there's dissent. Rob, for the first time there's dissent over this. And who the hell believes that who would possibly think that the most powerful lobby in the country, in Donald Trump's words, being a lobby of a foreign government is a good thing? And I could see, like, there being a powerful lobby and you thinking that that's a good thing, you know, from whatever perspective you have. If you're, if you're a gun nut, you know, if you're, or just not don't mean that in a negative way. I mean, that is a high compliment. But like, I don't know, me and you don't believe in gun restrictions.

So like if there was, I mean, the NRA is not the best example, but if the NRA, let's just say was a little bit better than they are. And let's say they were the most powerful group. You go, yeah, but I think that's good because they're protecting the Second Amendment or something like that. or even if you're like a, you know, whatever, if you're pro-choice and there was a, you know, a pro-choice lobby and you were happy that they were the most powerful lobby, at least that's coherent, you know, but even if you support a foreign government, you should never want their lobby to be the most powerful lobby, because obviously even in any example, take any friendly government, Britain or something like that, you know, okay, well, you may be like,

hey, we should work with them. We should support them. They're a strong ally. But you would never say, Rob, that there couldn't possibly be a situation where our interests diverge. There couldn't possibly be a situation where there were British interests on this one hand and then American interests that were contrary to those interests on the other hand. And so you wouldn't want to lobby just dedicated to supporting the UK to be the number one lobby.

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Let's get back into the show. I think you're muted. I said, it checks out to me. That's definitely a fair argument. There's no reason why a foreign government should be the number one lobby in the United States of America. Yeah, really.

All right, let's move to the next clip of Donald Trump here because there's a couple other good ones. Miriam, Edelson. Do you want to come up here? Come up here, Muriel. Miriam gave my campaign indirectly and directly

250 million she was number one when somebody can give you 250 million I think that we should give her the opportunity to say hello and Miriam make it quick because 250 million

is not what it used to be all right you can go first but yeah that needs a pause go ahead you go ahead well all right I mean this is just my nerd in me but the fact that even he's going to admit inflation and that $250 million isn't what it used to be. So you can talk just not that long.

I thought that that was incredible. But then also just the, hey, you can buy a ticket to come at the White House. It's one of those things that's not supposed to be said out loud. Hey, if someone gives me this much money, then yes, I will publicly show you that you can buy influence the United States of America. Now, please take the stage and take your bow for having spent money purchasing influence. Listen, let me just say, I think because obviously I agree with you, but let me just say that there is, I do find it to some degree useful for me and you to make our point by having someone like Donald Trump who just says the quiet part out loud. I do find that more useful. And one of the things about Donald Trump, right, this has always been the dynamic, is that, you know, so he'll say something like this and you could almost hear a Democrat being like, well, Donald Trump admits you got 200, but the thing is like, I don't know, Rob, do you ever see?

it's been it's been years since I read up on this but I'm right about this you can go look it up that I think it was wiki leaks who dumped the emails but you ever see how city group picked Barack Obama's cabinet like they got the email from city group being like this is who the cabinet's going to be and it's exactly who Barack Obama's cabinet is or almost like almost exactly right so like this has been going on for a long fucking time you know like yes people buy-off politicians and the government does the bidding of very powerful private interests. Now, before any of you socialists out there, think that that's a reason to socialize the economy. You're wrong.

That's not how it works. We need a market system. We need prices. It's the only way we don't all starve to death. And since you have the problem of where a market system where you don't all starve to death does create very rich, powerful people, that's why you want the government to be very limited so they don't have anything much to buy off. That being said, how exactly, with the exception of people like me can point to it and explain how corrupt the whole goddamn system is, how exactly is this preferable to the swamp?

How is this not the swamp? How is this, is that really what we supported Donald Trump for? Because you went, well, Donald Trump said, all the rest of them are the swamp, but they won't admit it. But I'll admit it. I'll tell it right to your face that, yeah, you could buy an embassy move. You could buy us bankrolling a war. You could buy us launching a war on another country. And you know what the price is?

$250 million. Now, Rob, that's not as much as you think because we've printed a lot more than $250 million over the last few years. Let me tell you something. Just take Biden out of it. And Biden was a pretty bad offender. But just Trump's first and second term, they've printed more money than any other administration did you take Biden out of it. So why is it that that 250 million ain't worth what it

used to be? Because of you, dude. But at the same time, and by the way, what's all Trump's advocating is that the Fed print more money, lower interest rates even more. And so if they had printed as much as he wanted, we'd be in even worse shape. She'd had to give him $500 million. But yeah, Rob, what can you say? It's like just all the parts that he admits out loud. He goes, there's a lobby for a foreign country, it used to totally control our government. It doesn't completely control our government anymore, and that's a bad thing. Their biggest advocate here gave me $250 million. By the way, you remember how I've told you she prefers Israel to the United States of America?

She gave me $250 million, so she gets to speak up here, and she also gets the policy she wants. Here you go. Yeah, let's keep playing. Okay? Hello, darling. Come in. incredible woman, with a great husband, a man that loved Israel. Pause it there for a second.

Didn't it? Isn't it a great way? He couldn't even get who loved his country out. Couldn't even get it out of his mouth. And he had to go, a great man who loved Israel. That's right. Feldon, Richmond, her late husband, is on tape. You could find this right.

He said that his biggest regret in life was that, he wore the U.S. military uniform and not the IDF uniform. Great man who loved Israel. Let's keep playing. Mr. President, when you were in the Israeli parliament and you gave a speech and you saw me from far away, you caught, and at that time I came with a scooter to the parliament just to hear you. I wanted to hear you alive. And then you say, Miriam Adersone, and I stood for a second, but it was so painful, so I said. Then you scream, Miriam, stand up!

And I wish you would have known, but I stood up and heard all your compliment, and thank you very much. I saw you back there, Stan. Yeah, she stood up bravely. And now I met Alan Dersovich, and he said the legal thing about four more years, and I say, Alan, I agree with you. So we can do it. Think about it.

Alan's here someplace. Where's Alan? Alan is here or he had a flight? Alan is here? Four more here. Think about it. Thank you. Maybe I was in the first of time of 20 or second.

Yeah. She said, think about it. I'll give you another 250. But her husband, Sheldon, was an amazing guy, and he'd come up to the office. And there was nobody more aggressive than Sheldon. I think I spend more time with him and you, because you usually came up together, but he'd call and say, yeah. Can I come over, please? I say, Sheldon, I'm president of the United States.

It doesn't work that way anymore. It's like maybe tomorrow. How about tomorrow? No, no, no, please, just for a little while. And he'd always say 10 minutes, it turned out to be about an hour and a half, right? And what he did is he fought for Israel. That's all he really fought for him. He just wanted to take care of.

He just wanted to take care of Israel. So he was a great guy. Turn it off. That's all I want to get to. We can skip the Mark Levin one, which was silly. That's all he cared about was he fought for Israel. Trump's own words. Go ahead, Rob.

But can you hear better evidence of conspiracy? So the largest donor can call up the President of the United States of America, and he could be like, dude, I know you gave me some money, but I got other things to work on. No, I have to come over now. I'll be 10 minutes. And then he can stay for an hour and a half and advocate for his cause. And then you can have two years later, very favorable policies for the exact cause that that single donor showed up and spent money for and then told the president, hey, this is important to me. All right.

This is a big grip this country. And what is the cause, man? It's not even something that you could, it's not like as cause is the interstate highway project or something where at least there could be a debate about whether we should, you know, revamp American infrastructure. or something like that, the cause is a foreign country, which in effect, right, like this cause of this foreign country, at least over the last two years, has included, you know, killing 100,000 people or so and destroying an entire strip of land and entire people, presumably still to force them out and not let them back in. I mean, who exactly knows what's going to happen, which is largely unpopular with the American

people. And like, I got to say, dude, it's, it really is like, it's astounding that Trump admits all of this out loud. But look, this is all just so fucking ridiculous. So goddamn ridiculous. He's sitting there saying that literally look, I mean, it's like, I'm not adding much to it to go. He goes, the Israel lobby used to control everything. They don't control everything anymore. It's a big problem. But you know what? They still control me. Let me just make that very clear. I am completely controlled by the Israel lobby. What do you want me to say? He's saying they gave me $250 million a year.

They may give me another $250 million to unconstitutionally attempt a third term. And they come every goddamn day. Hey, Rob, that 250 mil don't come for free, you know? And that's, by the way, this isn't including the 100 million that Sheldon gave Donald Trump or in his first run, or at least his first run and the midterm, something. like that. It's like in the hundreds of millions, you know, back then it was worth more. So like it's, so he's going, yeah, they give me hundreds of millions of dollars, but that doesn't come free. They then require to constantly be seeing me asking for something else. And what are

they asking for, Rob? Israel. And so I do it. Now, all I'm saying is in the background, in the background where people like Tim Poole are saying that Candace Owens is the reason why the Republicans are going to lose the midterm, or where Matt Walsh is saying that Charlie Kirk being assassinated is the reason why there's so much division in the right amongst Donald Trump's base. I would humbly submit to you. Well, first, I guess I would make a humble request, and then I would humbly submit an idea. The humble request is that you guys join me over here in reality. And the humble submission is that this is what it's about.

This is what it's about. This is indefensible insanity that nobody who calls themselves America first wants. Nobody who means it when they call themselves America first wants this. And Donald Trump has at every single turn and made it quite clear that he sides with them. Like, look, there's people like me

who supported Donald Trump in this election who have totally turned on him. Fuck him. I'll never get my support for anything again. The disaster, this whole thing is. And there's people, like, say, Tucker Carlson hasn't done that. Tucker Carlson still kind of supports the president, and I think still wants to support J.D. Vance and the next election.

But just think about the, like, think about the millions of people who listen to Tucker Carlson, listen to Candice Owens, you know, who, like, think about, like, how big their audiences are. and what a slap in the face it is for him to sit here and let you know publicly that like no i side with mark levin you know the guy the guy who's like coming at all of us just trash talking us and then getting ratioed out of his mind on twitter because no one's on his side well i'm on that guy's side i side with the israel lobby while support for israel is evaporating. While our country is continuing to be degraded, my priority is this foreign

country doing a very controversial thing that most people have a problem with. It's just too crazy, Rob. Anyway, I guess we'll wrap up there. Guys, I do apologize this week has been a bit of a mess in the Smith household, but we'll be getting back up on our feet soon, and I'll get you as many episodes as I can. All right. Catch you later. Peace. You know what I'm going to be.