Part Of The Problem - Trump's Third Term
Episode Date: September 1, 2026Dave Smith brings you the latest in politics! On this episode of Part Of The Problem, Dave and Robbie "the Fire" Bernstein discuss the latest on the war, Steve Bannon claiming on Bill Maher t...hat Trump will win a third term, the tariff situation with Canada, and more.Support Our Sponsors:Prize Picks - Visit https://prizepicks.onelink.me/LME0/POTP and use code POTP and get $150 if you win your first $5 lineup!BodyBrain - Go to BodyBrainCoffee.com, use code DAVE20 for 20% off your first order.Superpower - Head to Superpower.com and use code PROBLEM at checkout for $20 off your membership. Unlock your new health intelligence. 100+ biomarkers. Every year. Detect early signs of 1,000+ conditions. #superpowerpod Goldback - https://www.goldback.com/dave/ Part Of The Problem is available for early pre-release at https://partoftheproblem.com as well as an exclusive episode on Thursday!PORCH TOUR DATES HERE:https://robbernsteincomedy.com/eventsFind Run Your Mouth here:YouTube - http://youtube.com/@RunYourMouthiTunes - https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/run-your-mouth-podcast/id1211469807Spotify - https://open.spotify.com/show/4ka50RAKTxFTxbtyPP8AHmFollow the show on social media:X:http://x.com/ComicDaveSmithhttp://x.com/RobbieTheFireInstagram:http://instagram.com/theproblemdavesmithhttp://instagram.com/robbiethefire#libertarian See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
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What's up? What's up, everybody.
Welcome to a brand new episode of Part of the Problem.
I am Dave Smith.
Of course, he is the great Robbie the Fire, Bernstein.
We were separated for the weekend, which is always tough on us.
But how are you, Rob? It's good to see you again.
Well, before I plug porches, I want to hear about the mothership.
Oh, man.
Oh, well, what can I say?
I heard Shane Gillis drop by did a guest spot.
Adam Lucky was hilarious.
I guess he ended up opening.
Adam, uh, Adam Lucky, uh, opened the whole night.
the whole weekend and uh derrick post and uh feature they were both great i mean they both did
great i don't think i know but adam i've worked with a bunch he's really funny and really dark
very funny very funny very dark but it's like but it uh i liked him going up front because it was like
established a good tone kind of for the show but very very funny jokes he was great and also just he was
a really great guy fun to hang with uh the weekend um and then um yeah Shane Shane came in and did a
Friday night on the late show on Friday night, which was, which was pretty cool, man.
It was like, uh, it's just nuts, you know, how excited people are to see him and how great he was.
It's a really funny new shit too.
It was fun.
I liked, uh, it was fun to follow him.
That was like a fun kind of challenge, you know, to go like, okay, now I got to go back and get him back.
Um, but yeah, it was just the whole time.
It was great weekends.
Uh, all the shows were sold out.
A ton of fun.
Met a bunch of cool people.
Um, and, and, uh, and then I, I saw a bunch of my friends.
Kurt Metzger came through and did a spot on one of the shows too.
And yeah, it was a great time.
I did Tim Butterlee's podcast when we were out there.
And I did Kurt and Duncan Truffles podcast as well.
So if you guys want some more content, both of those were really fun.
Did Scott Horton or Rogan end up hanging out in the green room at all?
I hung with Rogan one night.
One night he came and we hung.
And then he had stuff with his family the other night.
There's no Joe Rogan experience, by the way, for anyone.
I know every time I go out there, people are always like,
oh, we're getting another JRE, but not this time.
It doesn't always work like that.
Like, he doesn't usually record on the weekends,
and he was doing stuff with his family.
And I, you know, so anyway, try to make that happen soon,
but not this time.
But, yeah, so he hung one night and then,
and Joey Diaz was out there too.
So I got to hang with him a bunch too,
which is always, he's, you know,
one of my favorite, just one of my favorite people to hang around.
He's a, dude, Joey, just hanging out with Joey.
He is, like, a genuinely, like, infectious person.
He's just very hard to not laugh around.
Like you just have a smile on your face when he starts talking.
I don't know.
He's just like that guy, you know.
But anyway, yes, it was a great time.
Thank you so much to all the fans who came out.
And really, of course, thank you the most to Joe and Adam Eaget and those guys.
Like, I don't know.
I was about to literally, I haven't done it yet, but I was about to sit and like compose long texts to each of them to just thank him for fucking what a great weekend it was.
but those guys have really always just embraced me so much and treated me great.
So it's just just excellent.
If you're in the Austin, Texas area, man, try to get out to the comedy mothership if you can.
It is a fun time.
And if you're not, I'm playing backyards.
This upcoming weekend, I've got Net Kong, New Jersey.
Then coming up, I've got outside of Cincinnati and it's someplace in Kentucky,
but it's right outside of Cincinnati.
It's Melbourne, Kentucky, and then I'm in bed for Texas.
And I'm looking for porches.
Help me out here, people.
I've already got these route plans and I've got gaps in them.
If someone's got a porch in Long Island, I'd love to add it for this upcoming weekend.
I'm looking for something in San Jose or San Francisco, Fort Wayne, Indiana, Austin, Texas, and San Antonio, Texas.
All of my routes to the end of the year are planned.
I just have to confirm the dates.
And those are the holes in the route.
So hit me up, people.
Do your thing, people.
Make your magic happen.
And then, of course, the next date that me and you got will be in a couple of weeks.
Louville, Louville.
The Louville, the Louville, Con.
comedy club in in Louisville, Kentucky, which we had a great time at last year, as I recall.
So looking forward to going back there.
Come on.
Let's see if we sold that five in Austin.
See if we could sell it for.
Best bourbon stash of any comedy club in the country.
Oh, yeah.
They have an excellent bourbon.
That's right.
What were we drinking last year?
What was the one we had up in the Tacoma spot too that they had down there?
I don't even know if we should say this on air, but we managed to get ourselves a little
taste of a peppy van Winkle, which was a real treat.
It was nice. It was nice. Yeah, that is we're yeah, you start drinking. We start throwing a few of those back. You go, you guys might be breaking even for the weekend. Sorry, but we're, yeah, not cheap, but very, very good. All right. Well, let's, shoot. Let's start getting into some stuff. What can you say, Rob? I guess we should start with the latest on the war. Because we are still at war. And the latest is another escalation round.
Last night, the U.S. attacked Iran, bombed one of their islands in the Strait of Hermus.
Several people were killed, according to the Iranians.
The Iranians vowed to respond, and they did.
They attacked our bases in Jordan and in the United Arab Emirates.
There's some, well, there's contradictory messages from the Americans and the Iranians about how successful the Iranian response was.
But once again, we're just kind of back in the exact same pattern and the exact same trap.
I thought the thing, I don't know, did we, oh, maybe did we talk about this on the members only episode at all rub?
I'm sorry, I can't remember.
But I thought the most significant thing that happened over the weekend, which really kind of puts things into perspective here, is that our last episode we had talked about Besson announcing his economic
D-Day.
You know, it's like this whole war, man, the whole seven months or whatever it's been since
February, it's always constantly like bullying tactics to get somebody to, you know, surrender
to you.
So now we're bullying other nations about doing business with Iran.
And two days after this announcement, Rob, Oman and Iran came out with a joint proposal about
joint control of the Strait of Hormuz and fee revenue sharing between the two of them.
And like, look, I'm not saying, look, obviously, Rob, it's not that Oman came out and announced
like a big oil partnership or something like that. And obviously in the MOU, it implicitly,
if not explicitly, essentially accepted that ultimately Iran and Oman will control the Strait
of Hormuz. But I got to say, Rob, I thought there was something pretty major.
about the fact that we come out, the signal is very clear.
No one is to do business with these Iranians.
And two days later, they announced this major partnership.
I mean, to me, I took that as a pretty obvious, like, you know, a pretty obvious sign that
in the same way that these threats are just coming off as empty, nobody's capitulating to
this.
That's my read.
What do you think?
Well, the second of the strikes, my thought was, well, I guess the, I guess, I
economic D-Day didn't work.
And who would have thought, you know, they probably would have should have done it from day one
if that was going to be a good strategy.
But my latest read on Trump, I mean, everything's a SAT question of trying to figure out
what is even happening.
I was trying to dig into the Venaswello thing for a little while today.
And it's amazing non-announcements and announcements.
It seems to me like Trump's, the way Trump is operating is that he just wants to win
the 24-hour news cycle.
without any care or concern for what 48 hours from now looks like.
And so they will just say whatever today and it doesn't matter tomorrow.
And it certainly doesn't matter two weeks from now.
It's an absurd way to live.
It's an absurd way for you and I to try and have to cover the news because they don't stand by anything within a 48 hour or one week window.
But it's like literally just say something that doesn't make sense.
It will be front page on the news today.
We'll win today's news cycle.
We'll deal with tomorrow tomorrow.
And I'm assuming that that's what's going on.
with the most recent round of strikes because I can't imagine that they're actually looking to
uh you know I don't think Trump's ready to nuke iran and I don't think we're looking to go back to
continuous bombing with Iran no I agree and at least from what's being reported I don't know that we
have the option to go back to continuous bombing of Iran at least not for much longer all right guys
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You know, it's interesting what you said because I see so much of that everywhere.
like just trying to win the day, win the news argument.
I also, by the way, since you brought up the Venezuela thing, man, it is, I was seeing it.
I mean, it's unbelievable, Rob.
Like, you know, the hawks, all of them, they celebrate at the tiniest little thing before there's even actually a victory.
It's like, it reminds me literally of whatever it was now, like four months ago, when Donald Trump just announced that we had a deal that was completely made up.
The deal was that, remember the deal was that the Iranians are going to hand all the enriched uranium over.
to U.S. forces and then open the straight tomorrow. None of this was real. The Hawks spent the day
celebrating the win, the day. Donald Trump's huge victory in Iran. Then tomorrow, it turns out that
it's complete lies. The straight isn't open. We're not getting the enriched uranium. And they all just
act like it never happened. And like it's anyway, with the Venezuela, it's like he makes an
announcement. We're getting all this oil. And they go, aha, we won. It's right. We don't even have to
wait to see if it pans out at all. It's just for the, you know, one example of this.
There was, I'm blanking on the guy's name, but there was an admiral.
Someone in the military.
Did you see this, Rob?
Last week.
And there was much fanfare about this, of course, from all the Hawks.
He said that we've cleared the straight out of mines.
There's no more mines.
And the Hawks were celebrating.
So there you go.
Now, Rob, think about how pathetic this is, right?
Like the war goals, we haven't gotten the enriched uranium.
We haven't ended their nuclear program.
We haven't stopped their support for Hezbole.
We haven't gotten rid of their,
missile programs and we haven't opened the Strait of Hermose.
But we got the mines out of the Strait of Hermann.
It's already pretty pathetic to be bragging about until yesterday, Rob, when a ship hit
another mine.
And so that's being reported.
So again, I don't know, like when it comes to these things, I'm not trying to overstate
what I know here.
I don't know.
Like, maybe they have gotten a lot of the mines out.
Maybe there was just one more there.
And like the spirit of what that admiral was saying was true.
But it sure does seem like they're just lying to us again.
sure seems like you said there were no more minds there and now there's another mine.
You know, I mean, if you remember, Rob, you know, because like with all these wars,
there's the talking points that go away.
But a huge, huge talking point, Rob, from the first month of the war was how depleted
Iranian missiles were.
Remember?
Remember when they kept talking about 75% of their missiles, 85% of their missiles, that was
month one. We're six months later. They're still firing off missiles. So again, it's just,
it seems like with the whole war, it's like one thing after another, after another after another
is just like, it's just being exposed. This is all bullshit. None of this is working. And we're
just still right here. Can I go off topic for a second on the Ven as well? I think. Sure.
Sure. Absolutely. I can't believe. Listen, I'll define myself as medium stupid, but usually my reading
comprehension is decent. And it's amazing to me sometimes when I'm reading stuff from Trump,
and I'm like, I don't even understand what I'm reading. So just to give the broad strokes and why
the Venezuela thing makes no sense is that, at least from what I understand, Venezuela oil is
basically break even if the global oil price is around $80 a barrel and you're not going to see it
for five years. So you're talking about someone making a massive investment, assuming that oil prices
are not coming down five years from now. And that also that whoever's the Venezuela partner
or government is going to respect that you've made the investment in there and that that's your
oil.
Now, you also have basically, we're partnering with some random billionaire in Venezuela.
We're somehow putting up none of the money, but we're 50% partner in the oil venture.
And no one, I haven't under, there's no clear explanation to me yet on how this is moving
forward or where the money's coming from.
The only thing that might make sense, which I guess they won't say, is that we've got a
random billion over the, billionaire over the,
there who's basically going to seize Venezuela's oil. He's going to put up the money for development
and we're going to recognize it as his oil. And so it's worth him partnering with the United
States military and stealing this country's oil. Maybe that's what the plan is, but they don't say
it. Well, it's also just like, right, there's a few layers to this. Like, I think you're, I agree
with everything you just said there. Look, I mean, you're talking about a five year out investment.
There's also, I mean, you're taking a big gamble on the political stability of Venezuela. We have no
idea where Venezuela will be in five years. But it's just also interesting that like, I don't know,
man, there's something truly sickening and just morally disgusting about, well, I mean, I guess about any
of the way people cheerlead war. But it's like, dude, you sold this war off drug boats off fucking,
And, you know, the idea that, like, they were responsible for fentanyl deaths.
You saw, like, it was not so, like, and yes, okay, fine.
Donald Trump did say we'll take their oil a bunch.
But, like, like, okay, right, Rob, you've got nothing here.
We haven't shown at all that this is going to work.
This is Donald Trump is saying something.
Take that for what it's worth.
We have no idea whether we'll ever see any profit off of any of this.
But it's also just like, so you're just, it's amazing that the little support that Donald Trump
has left. His supporters want to like throw it in our face that ha, Venezuela did work out
while he's in the middle of another catastrophic war that is just completely failing.
And this was like, even if you were right, you're still like not in any position to be like
dunking on anyone. But number two, like, what are you even right about? So like essentially what
you're talking? Because this really is, you know, Tucker Carlson made a really big deal about
Venezuela. And, you know, I guess I did too. This, and this hurts some of us because the war went
relatively well and a lot of people didn't die and it didn't cost a whole lot. And so like,
you kind of come off like, oh, you're making a big deal out of something, but it didn't go bad.
And, you know, we would make our analogies at the time about drunk driving and making it home
in one piece and going, hey, it was still a bad idea to do that, you know? But one of the things that
Tucker really made a big deal about was like how this was such naked aggression.
I mean, it's not even like with Iran where there was the claim that they're developed.
and that they would then use the nukes offensively.
This was just like, like people are literally saying here,
if they think this works out and therefore it's good,
that there was a little puny country that posed absolutely no threat to us.
According to Donald Trump himself, Maduro had offered him everything he wanted.
100% had just said, hands up, don't shoot, please.
And he went, nope, we don't like you.
We got to deal with your second in command.
So we're going to go extract you and go work with her.
So we launched a war on a sovereign country that posed no threat to us that had never attacked us and that had no plan.
No one's even pretending they had plans to attack us.
But we took their shit.
So that's a good one.
I guess there's something sick about that.
I guess we've got a problem that China's become, you know, too powerful with its Silk Road initiative of making investments and trading in other countries.
And since we're the more moral of the two countries, we have to go invade other countries and take their shit.
shit to keep China in check.
Yep. Yeah.
Right. Something like that.
Right. Like we've spent 25 years going around the world, bombing everything.
And China spent 25 years going around the world with, you know, briefcase full of cash.
It's not a surprise that they're gaining partnership and we're losing that.
The, you know, I heard another comment.
Who is it?
Oh, man, I got it.
I'm blanking on this.
It might have been Rubio, but it might have been one of the guys under him.
But one of them said, and I thought this was so, I'm sorry, going back to Iran now,
but he goes, he goes, look, we can absolutely put enough pressure on, on the Iranian regime
until they just can't take it anymore and they're, they're ready to make a deal.
He goes, look, we did it with Hamas.
We did it with ISIS.
And you're like, dude, wait, what?
Like, that's actually what's in the, and I wonder sometimes,
Rob, you know, like, sometimes you're like, okay, so you're just saying what you need to say to win
the news day. But then there's a little party that's like, wait, you don't actually believe
that that's a valid comparison, right? Like, I'm just saying, like, just on the most, like,
fundamentals of it, like, ISIS at its height was like a few thousand fighters, dude. I mean,
maybe, like, you know, in tens of that low tens of thousands or something. Hamas, I don't know,
we've seen the different estimates of how many fighters they ever had,
but it was in the tens of thousands, you know,
maybe 30,000 or something like that.
Like, talking about a country of 90 million people.
None of those are nation states.
Those are just terrorist organizations.
Like, I don't know.
So it's just, again, like, as I say with this whole thing,
I don't, my position on this has never been that the Iranian regime is
untoppable.
you cannot overthrow them and that no amount of economic pressure could ever bring this regime
to its knees. Like that's not exactly my position. I don't know, you know. Like I think actually,
Rob, people can survive a lot more than you would think. You know, like I, let me say it like this.
I don't like, it's not like it doesn't violate the laws of physics for the Iranian regime to
collapse, like amongst all this instability and maybe the economic pressure is enough.
I just kind I'm a little like agnostic on the question my my belief is just like it's wrong to launch wars of
choice it's wrong to go kill all these people it costs money it never does anything good it destroys lives
and it destroys nations like but and also my argument is that if the Iranian regime were to fall
I think that's likely the worst case scenario but in addition to that I would just say Rob it
certainly seems unlikely it just really really seems like a long like such a stretch you know I've just
read about, I mean, dude, like, think about the economic blockade of Germany during World War I.
Think about the economic blockade of Germany during World War II, the economic blockade of
Japan during World War II. There was still a military component that was necessary to all of that.
There's not any one of those examples where they went, no, we could just starve him out.
We couldn't starve Saddam Hussein out. We had a military blockade for years in the 90s against
Saddam Hussein, a country a third of the size of Iran, right next door to it, a third of the size
with much easier terrain to invade.
And ultimately, we had to invade.
We had to send the whole army in.
That's how we got them.
So anyway, I mean, I suppose it is possible here, Rob, that, like, they're degrading
the regime to some degree, but it just seems like, nah, dude, it's just going to keep going
like this.
It's going to keep going like this, and they're going to keep surviving.
and essentially, you know, the next round of this might be an Iranian escalation.
You know, Iran might say, hey, we can't just sit here and play tit for tat anymore.
And we've got to, like, go first.
So we'll see.
Yeah, and it remains unclear to me why we struck that island.
I guess they were claiming that they were laying new minds, but who the hell knows?
Yeah, yeah, it's right, exactly.
It's totally, I mean, when your government just lies to you like so much.
You know, I did see the Iranian, I believe it's the foreign minister, was giving a speech.
And he gave like a very measured response, you know.
And he really, he was really going out of his way to sound as reasonable as he could.
You could tell like he's trying to like win the international PR game.
But there is something about it, man, as I watched it where, you know, again,
I know people like the the fucking room temperature IQ response to any of us being against these wars is always like you love the mullahs you worship the ayatollah I've I've literally been just over the last five years Rob I have been nationally smeared as a Putin lover a Hamas lover an Ayatollah lover a huthi lover like I always must love the somehow I just yes I'm so
to Vladimir Putin and I really just believe in the Houthis mission statement or something.
But, you know, okay, so all of that is dumb. It's just not true at all. In fact, I really have
nothing but contempt for all governments and men who rule over other men. But, dude, it was hard
not to listen to this Iranian speak. I just go, dude, he just sounds so much more reasonable than
our leadership. Like, he literally just goes, he says in the thing, he goes, he goes, there's a big
difference here. He goes, there's two parties in this war. Well, I mean, I guess there's three
parties in the war, but he was saying there's the Americans in the U.S. He goes, we're not the same here.
He goes, we didn't attack you. We didn't want this war. We didn't launch a war. You launched this war.
And then you lost it. And you just won't stop. But if you keep attacking us, we have to respond.
We can't just let you attack us without responding. So how about this? Just stop.
There never needed to be a war to begin. And just like, as he's saying this, like, dude,
I don't like Shiite theocracy, but how do you argue with that?
How do you not go like, right?
Yeah, this guy is the guy being reasonable here.
And then our side is just making these crazy demands that we can't enforce to keep the war going for absolutely no reason.
It's very, very weird situation, Rob.
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midst of this. Here, let's play the Steve Bannon on, on Bill Marr. Did you, because it's just too,
I don't even know what to say about some of this stuff, man. You know, I think we're in a little bit
of a, you know, I think this happened during COVID a bit, definitely happened during Ukraine a bit,
definitely, definitely happened about Biden's senility. But do you remember, like, you'll almost
have these moments where, you know, it's as if we're living in two different realities.
But you sit there and me and you talk to each other, you know, three times a week.
And we sit here and we go, now, but our reality is reality.
Your reality is some anti-reality.
And every single time, every single time with this, it just took a little bit of time until everyone started realizing, oh, yeah, yeah.
Because reality is powerful.
The reality was that Biden was senile.
That wasn't our take versus their take.
We were living in reality and they had diluted themselves into.
something else. This is so delusional. I actually can't. I mean, this is to me on the level of like an
MSNBC host going, yeah, but wait till Biden gets his hands on Trump at that debate stage,
which they were saying, if you remember, earlier that week. Do you remember they, they love the
narrative that Joe Biden had beat Trump in the debate in 2020, which was really like Trump just
beat himself in that debate. But they love that narrative. So their thing was like,
Biden's going to go smoke him again.
This is, Bannon is as delusional as a Biden supporter,
thinking he was about in 2024 to have a great debate performance.
Note, not one drop less delusional than that.
So here, let's play.
Steve Bannon, the guy who got Donald Trump elected on Bill Maher's show.
The Constitution.
Can I read a passage to you?
Amendment 22.
No person.
be elected to the office of the president more than twice.
And yet you keep talking about Trump's third.
Maybe you should have this.
I'll get you to sign it backstage and underline.
President Trump didn't bring up running for a third term.
Myself and others brought up running for a third term.
President Trump is going to run for a third term.
And President Trump is going to be elected again.
On the afternoon of January 20th of 2029, he's going to be president of United States.
Okay, but the thing I just read in there, it seemed like there was no wriggle room there.
It seemed like it was just, you know, eight or ten words and said only two times.
We have a team of people that are one.
A team.
How can a team do something about that?
How, how, what, I don't care if the team is 12 trillion people.
The words are still the words.
Bill, every day in federal courts, right now in federal courts, there's 120 lawsuits on what President Trump's doing for his
Article 2 writes on the unified executive theory. But he's chief executive, he's commander
and chief and chief and chief law enforcement officer. There's 100, and they're running to court
every day. But to sue President Trump, all because the interpretation of this. The interpretation
of this is open for interpretation. How should it be open? Could I have it back?
No person. No person. You would agree he's a person. Okay. Shall be elected. He was elected to the office.
that's the office for the president more than twice.
Twice is once and then another time.
I don't see what the team is finding.
Okay.
I will disagree.
Listen, Bill, in 2014, you're talking about long odds.
In 2014, when I backed President Trump when I was running Breitbart,
they said I turned Breitbart into Trump Pravda.
Okay, the odds there, he pulled it zero.
Then later in 2021, after he got back to Mar-a-Lago,
when Fox abandoned him and the Murdox abandoned him,
the Republican Party abandoned him.
The odds were longer then.
So our group, the MAGA movement and the tip of the spear of the MAGA movement,
we've had long odds before.
You know what?
We've come out, winning twice.
And we're going to come out, we've got long odds on this.
We're going to come out winning a third time.
On the afternoon of the 20th of January, 29, he's going to be president.
All right.
Again, on the evening of this debate, Joe Biden's going to come out and look sharp as attack.
I mean, I don't know.
Look, man, I will say.
sit here and say this. If Steve Bannon is going to say that on January 21st, 2009,
Donald Trump is going to be sworn in for his third term, I will guarantee you on everything I
own, if that is the case, it's because there wasn't an election. It's the only way. Listen, I hate
Donald Trump. At this point, I think I'm as anti- Donald Trump essentially as you can be. I think I'm
I'm more against him than a resistance lib in 2017.
You know, I got good reasons, unlike them, but whatever.
I can't stand the guy.
I mean, I've literally like, I mean, I've never liked the guy, but I just, I think he's
the biggest disaster, you know, in modern American history at this point.
I would love for him to run again.
I would love nothing more than Donald Trump.
If you hate Donald Trump's guts, there is nothing that should make you happier than
the idea of him running again. If you are a Donald, but anyway, Rob, I don't know.
He's got no argument here. He's just pathetically flailing about how there could be an
interpretation. It is clear as hell. Don't get me wrong. I wish Bill Maher or Bannon for
that matter would read more than just those two sentences of the Constitution. But there's some
other good stuff in there about who gets to declare war. But there is no legal interpretation
that is going to say he's allowed to run again. And you are goddamn delusion.
to think he would have any chance of winning.
Donald Trump, dude, like Donald Trump's approval rating
is around 20 points lower than it was when he got reelected.
In what world do you think you can be down 20 points
and even be competitive?
Kamala Harris would route him in a landslide today.
That's the reality.
So, Bannon is just out of his mind.
And he could say, oh, things looked really bad after January 6th
or when Trump was just a celebrity, the odds were very low.
He was going to win the presidency.
Rob, do I even need to point out that this is different?
This is different.
He didn't have a track record of betraying his every stated promise.
So I don't know.
And you're also in those instances not talking about tearing up the Constitution.
You're talking about just the odds of winning.
You're not talking about we're going to violate the, yeah.
I have a lot of thoughts on this.
I'll just start with, you know, when this first kid, when this story,
first came out of Trump's going to go for a third term. I actually had a big fight on a phone call
with a friend of mine where I was like, I don't care. Like we have so much time between now and the
end of his presidency. And for that even to be a conversation, he'd have to be pulling so high
the economy would have to be doing great. Like if let's just say Trump won the Iran war in two days
and he ended the Ukraine war within two weeks. And our economy was doing the best that it ever could.
there could be a conversation about
should we be amending the Constitution
because this is the greatest thing that ever happened
should be running his vice presidents
that he could stay in office.
And it would be a dumb conversation
because the rule is the rule
and whether or not there's enough people in Congress
or whatever that they want to amend the Constitution.
You could just find out whether or not they're going to do it.
But there would at least be a conversation there.
At the moment, this guy's not winning an election.
And if you change the rule for a third time presidency,
see, guess what, Obama's going to wipe the floor with Trump.
Talk about a fun debate.
It's, and I will sit out that election cycle.
I quit the show if it's Obama versus Trump.
I don't want to do politics anymore.
That is boring.
I got no interest.
We're going to Key West, Rob.
Yeah, we're done.
We're going to buy a little comedy room, Rob.
This is what we're going to do.
We're going to pull all our money together.
We're going to buy a little comedy club.
Maybe not in Key West because they already got one there.
One of the other keys.
We're going to drink drinks at a car.
coconuts and we're just going to live in one room me you my wife and kids that's it we're out we have
very little money coming in now rob but if you guys want to come see us come down to the keys
look i mean none of this is this is just this is ridiculous it's not happening i i wouldn't say
bannon's failing flailing here as much as he's just playing a stupid confidence game around a
stupid conversation uh but i i think the only thing that isn't is a a pattern
to this happening is what you were describing is that Donald Trump just goes straight
dictatorship and we have a much bigger problem on our hands.
Which is not going to happen either.
I mean, I don't think he has the control of the military like that.
It's also just not like there are certain things that maybe one day in the future could change.
But in today's America, it's like the idea of Donald Trump just installing himself as a dictator.
Look, government is largely.
dictatorial, all forms of government.
Even dictatorships are always really
oligarchies. There's always a secret council
that's behind with the dictator.
And there's a, so like,
I'm not even saying like it's that
drastic a change in the actual
mechanisms of government.
In fact, Daryl Cooper was just making this
really good point the other day about how
empire and democracy are totally
incompatible. Because once you have an empire,
what do you think? You think the Pentagon just going to let
people decide who the next war is against? Like, no, you got to have Pentagon people deciding
who the war is for, you know, but in the consciousness of the American, if you were to just say,
hey, we're going to suspend elections and just have one guy rule over. That just is incompatible
to the way Americans think about themselves and believe their system operates. So like, that's not
happening. But I think your point, your point was a very, a very good one. And one of the things,
I think, in your kind of prerequisites that that you left
out there. But I think it goes very much in line with the spirit of what you're saying, right?
Like if he had, if Venezuela was a big success and Iran was a big success and Ukraine was a big
success and they were quick and they were cheap. And then he was able to focus on his domestic
agenda and prices were coming down and things were more affordable. Like if all of this was happening,
well, what you're talking about could we amend the Constitution? But what's the biggest prerequisite
for even having a conversation about amending the Constitution, which would be downstream of those
things that you just mentioned is dominant victories in the midterms. Complete control of both houses
of Congress. You have to have that before we even start having the conversation about amending the
Constitution. You're about to lose the midterms, dude. You need 75. Am I getting this right? I believe
you need 75% in a vote for an amendment to the Constitution. It's not just like passing a bill.
And then you got to get it ratified by the states. Like it's a huge thing to get this.
why there hasn't been a constitutional amendment in a long time.
You know, and so, yeah, look, I think in a similar type of thing, I mean, obviously,
this is much more substantial, a substantive, but substantial, substantive, I think is the
word I was looking for.
Anyway, that's a big deal if Donald Trump runs for president.
But it's kind of, Rob, it's kind of like renaming the lakes and the gulfs and all that
shit.
You're like, dude, this would be fine as a cherry on top.
You know? Like if you were, if you were putting up wins and then you said, and also Gulf of Mexico is Gulf of America, okay, you know, like doing some wins and then having some Trump fun on top of it.
But when you just get into the dumbest like trade war with our biggest trading country to the north and then their response is just that they're going to reciprocate with tariffs against us.
And so you go, oh yeah, well, now we're calling the Lake Lake America. You're like, you're just a gigantic.
like what is this this is absolutely nothing like you literally it's not now it went from being a
thing of almost like oh you're twisting the knife after getting a win to now being like wait
that's all you care about the vanity of it well that's like what are you a woman?
sorry sorry women i know there's a few of you who listen but like what i i don't know i just find that to be
like uh you know it's it's it's like these all these things like yeah dude this is the move after
you've delivered victories after you've won, after, when you got approvals in the 70s.
And now we go, hey, dude, look, man, he's got a 73% approval rating.
The economy's buzzing.
The wars are over.
But you're saying you're going to just have a disaster.
And then this really is to me, the heart of it is like how delusional people like Bannon are.
Your guys going down in flames.
And you're talking about him breaking George Washington's precedent.
seems unlikely to me.
I mean, I understand FDR ran for president a bunch of times,
and it wasn't, you know, the law of the land
until it was officially put into the Constitution.
But there's never been a president.
And who was the last president?
FDR?
I think FDR was the last president who served over two terms.
You know, you're going, it's 100 years.
This is goofy.
None of it's going to happen.
I also, I mean, with the way that this presidency's headed,
I think, I don't think Marco or Rubio or J.D. Vance can win the election unless it's against Gavin Newsom or IOC, in which case I do think that there is a possibility for it. But if Donald Trump sticks around and goes, I'm actually going to be running the party. I'm not allowed to be president. Firstly, he's getting old and crazy. So I don't even know if he's going to be in a situation for it. The age. Yeah, Jesus. Good point. I also think Donald Trump played ball this time around. And he's looking to take a part in.
and enjoy his wealth. I don't really think that he wants to do this endlessly, and particularly
as he's not winning at the moment and his whole thing is pretending to win. I got to assume even for
Trump that gets exhausting. You know what I mean? Like I don't know, I don't think, you know what I mean?
At some point, I don't think Trump enjoys going on the news every day and pretending like he's
winning when he's not. It might be more fun when you're actually winning, but the way you're
currently doing, I got to assume that this. Donald Trump doesn't seem, he doesn't seem like he's
enjoyed this last year. It seems like he's been stuck.
It really seemed like he enjoyed the year before that.
And so, you know, unless they're going full dictatorship, which I think is a tough pathway,
and I don't think Trump will get away with it.
This is just, I mean, what is Bannon doing?
What's the point is?
I mean, I don't know.
Got to get on a TV show and go, hey, I'm still the most loyal supporter of Trump.
I'm still absolutely so behind everything that's happening right now.
I still think that we need him to be president in three years, even though it's against our
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Yeah, and I mean, really, I think essentially the only effect of this, much like with Joe Biden.
And when, you know, when people would go out there and say Joe Biden is sharp as attack and he's
going to be amazing in this debate, the only effect that had was just ruining that person's
credibility. And likewise, I just think the only effect this has is just absolutely destroying Steve
Benon's credibility for all of the future.
Like, you know, and he, you know, Steve, Steve Benon was a kind of interesting guy.
You know, a lot of the economic populism, a lot of the anti-war stuff in Donald Trump's
2016 campaign came from him.
But like, you're, okay, so you're on record now saying that, like, what, Trump's doing a
great, he's doing such a great job that he should get another term.
That's what you think about this.
Okay.
I'm guessing we've got Jeffrey Epstein's dear friend to say, I think it's been a great last year.
Oh, that should really be successful.
I'm guessing it's a trying to pull a trick here of people.
The conversation shifting to the Trump supporters still think that Trump is doing so well
that he should remain president against the Constitution instead of having a conversation about all the failures.
The problem with when you put up that much bluster, it's a little bit like when Netanyahu was making statements that Israel,
or Israel supporters were saying that they're the most moral army.
And then sometimes you just piss people off because you're like,
we're definitely not that.
And then people start digging in and go, well,
fuck you.
You're lying to my face.
And so,
the most moral army.
It's unbelievable.
So whatever Bannon's trying to do here,
I think is a,
it's a foolish marketing trick.
And my guess is it's going to just die out.
But it just,
I mean,
I don't see this working and it just seems so unbelievably dumb.
Did you?
I mean, by the way, I was about to say, did you see?
But yes, I know you saw because you emailed it to me earlier today.
Although I had seen it on social media.
But there's this video going super viral today.
It's the number one trending thing on Twitter right now, on X right now.
And I guess the video is not worth playing on the podcast because it's not in English.
But Benjamin Netanyahu's given, I think what is a campaign speech,
over in Israel, and he's just straight up bragging about how he got Trump to launch the war
and around. Like, just no. I mean, it's, it's really is just this unbelievable dynamic. I mean,
Rob, there is literally no difference between the statement he's making and the confidence he's making
it with and what I say. We're both saying the exact same thing. Like, it's, it's really unbelievable.
people this this is the dynamic right it's constantly this dynamic it's someone someone like me goes hey
the israel lobby just unseated a democratically elected uh uh congressman in kentucky and they go dude
it had nothing to do with the israel lobby like that's just an anti-semitic conspiracy theory
it's just that trump didn't endorse him and that's why trump's really popular blah blah and then john pod harris
goes the jewish money came in and took him out randy fine goes
the Jews came in and took him out.
And you're like, wait a minute.
So it's offensive when I say it, if I'm opposed to it.
But then you can just agree that's true.
Dude, and I'm sorry, but this plays right into the ban on point too.
Dude, everybody sees this.
Everybody knows what just happened.
Donald Trump got sucked into a war on behalf of a foreign country.
The leader of that foreign country is openly acknowledging this.
It is crazy, dude, to me that, like, people.
You know, think about how many arguments I've been in over the years about Israel dragging America into war and that you might as well have the longest serving prime minister in Israeli history sitting here going, I'm dragging you into war. It's been my life's work. I mean, Robin, I'm not really exaggerating much. He basically says that. He says, I had to push the Americans into war. I spent decades doing it. Thousands of interviews, thousands of meetings. Right from the horse's mouth.
Yeah, I think later in the interview also says like we're surrounded by enemies.
We can't go about this alone.
And you just got to put it together.
We're surrounded by enemies.
We can't go about this alone.
Luckily, I have a holdover the U.S. government and I'm persuasive enough that I can get on
their TV cameras all the time.
And I was able to push them to take out Iran and to treat Iran like the serious enemy
that it is.
And I guess that's a nice pitch to your country of, hey, we're milking this other country
dry and we're getting them to spend all this money over here because we can't go about it alone.
But then you hear that over here and you go, isn't that exactly what we're complaining about
that we're doing this on their behalf and that they're the junior partner and that they're
bossing us around and why do they have so much influence and how do we benefit from this?
Isn't this exactly what we're complaining about is now his pitch to his country is,
hey, look, look, I'm able to get these suckers.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I mean, this is, dude, it really did remind me, of course.
because this is the same man.
But if you remember that famous secret videotape of him, also in Hebrew,
or I guess it's not clear whether it's a secret videotape of it.
Like, it's not clear whether the kid, like, intentionally left the camera running
or whether they accidentally left the camera running.
But anyway, there is a candid video of Benjamin Netanyahu
where he's bragging about how he moves the Americans.
And his own words were, it's ridiculous.
He goes, I can move the Americans.
I can get them to do what I want.
And then he just like explains to all of them how he torpedoed the two-state solution.
And that he's basically that he got all these poison pills into the agreement.
And so that, yeah, essentially, like, we had made it.
So like, forget exactly what he says in the video, Rob.
But it was something like he goes, he goes, look, we got a different corridor.
Yes.
And Israel has control over the defense.
corridor, which he can define as whatever.
I believe that was the language.
And then he says at one point, I think he goes,
I define all of Area C as a defensive corridor,
meaning like essentially a third of the West Bank.
I just decided, right?
So, meaning there's no two-state solution.
You'll never get Palestine.
You'll never, like, and he's just on,
he's openly bragging about that.
And like, look, that one is at least,
he doesn't think he's being recorded.
This one he knows he's being recorded.
Now, he's speaking in Hebrew.
I mean, they're very conscious of that.
Like, you listen to what Netanyahu says in Hebrew.
and what he says in English, and it is like,
that's what he wants to tell the Israelis,
and that's what he wants to tell the Americans,
which, you know, makes sense.
But, yeah, he's just openly saying, yeah, we moved the Americans.
We wanted this war, and so we got it.
You would think, you know, now that the war's going so bad,
he'd be hesitant to say that.
It's a, again.
I guess getting America stuck in this mess,
because he does say in the speech quite a few times
that we need regime change there.
which is a different goal than, you know, what, uh, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, and so, uh, and so, you know, I guess this is going, going to plan for Netanyahu, he's got us stuck in a mess.
All right. I cannot, you know, look, dude, I did so many, like, high profile debates around the 12-day war.
And, and rather, it's, it's just, it's unbelievable how this always just works this way.
Dude, the, the, I can't tell you. I mean, I mean, I know you saw some of these.
my argument would always be last summer, a year and two months ago or whatever it is now,
that I'd go, guys, Donald Trump may think that this is just about hitting the nuclear sites,
but this is about regime change, and that is the goal of the Israelis.
And that was the topic of debate.
All the defenders of the 12-day war said, that's not true, Dave.
They're just worried about their nuclear ambitions.
Nobody's talking about regime change.
This isn't a—what do you think?
He's George W. Bush.
No one's talking about a regime change war.
We're just talking about hitting their nuclear facilities.
I don't know.
A year later, now they just openly say that it was, of course it was always about regime change.
I'm like, yes, actually, he basically is George W. Bush.
You know why?
Because it's still Benjamin Netanyahu.
That's why.
And so our government still has to be George W. Bush, even though the entire American people reject that.
And voted for this government largely because they've,
ran against all of that stuff. But, you know, I don't know. I mean, I don't know what you can say about
this. It's, it's just both with, with Benjamin Netanyahu and with Steve Ben, with all of them,
this is, this is peak wokeism level delusions on the Republican side now. You know, like, at the very
least, Rob, right, when you announce that, right, this is, I mean, this is just real objective, real easy.
If you announce the goal of this war is regime change, the people should rise up and take control of the government.
We will be extracting all the nuclear dust.
We will be ending their nuclear program.
The straight will be open.
All this stuff.
And it's over six months later and none of those things have been achieved.
You got to at least admit, you go, okay, that part's tough.
So that's going to be, you know what I mean?
Like you launch a war of choice and you didn't achieve any of the things.
It's six months later.
A lot of people have died.
A lot of money has been wasted.
Okay.
Now, look, if you want to argue, hey, I think we're still going to achieve all those goals in the next three months.
And this will be worth it fine.
But to pretend as it's, it's pretending Joe Biden's economy was great.
They literally said that as we had the highest inflation of our lifetimes.
They went, no, it's great.
So, like, yeah, they can, I guess they can look at this war and say, yeah, it's great.
But that didn't work with Joe Biden.
And it's not going to work here either, man.
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ship. All right, let's get back into the show. You know, the, it is almost even worth mentioning just
for a minute, Rob, did you see the situation with Canada? Because it is, and I know you said you hadn't
been following it super closely, but just essentially, just to know the, so essentially Donald Trump
announces these huge tariffs, like 50% tariffs on a few billion dollars worth of Canadian
goods. And the Canadians turned around and said, okay, then we're doing reciprocal tariffs on all
of that. So that's where we are now. And then Donald Trump said he's going to rename the lake and then
started talking shit and all this. But like I just, look, I guess in some, like I'm anti-tariff in general.
Like I always said with you, and I think we had a lot more leniency at the very beginning of Trump's
administration when there was some thought that maybe he'd do something decent, that you go,
look, while tariffs are bad economic policy, in theory, you could get a government maybe
to do something that you want them to do by threatening them with tariffs or something.
Like maybe you can extract some concessions.
And if you remember, Rob, it was reported during Trump's first term that at one of the G7
meetings, he threw out the suggestion that he goes, hey, if you guys are also against my
tariffs, why don't we all just agree to not have tariffs anymore?
And I'll do that.
Because the point in Donald Trump's, you know, his vision of economics, I guess the argument
being that like we have to have the tariffs because you have tariffs on our stuff so it's unfair
that you don't have tariffs but like Rob I'm just saying if that's like that's the best almost
like use of tariffs you could have is to go hey I'm going to tariff you unless you bring your tariffs down
and then if the end result is we all bring our tariffs down that actually is better economic
policy but my point is here some people I suppose would argue that no there's a benefit in tariffs
because they protect American business.
Now, me and you would go, I think,
this is a very flawed argument.
It's just does it.
This is, you could go to Henry Haslett here.
This is, you're arguing that the sun is putting the candle makers out of business.
Like, I don't agree with that.
I think it's goofy.
That being said, if you do believe that, Rob, right?
Like, if you're a protectionist, if you believe, so you would say, well, look, dude,
if we have tariffs on foreign steel, then are,
domestic steel producers will benefit because of that. Now, someone like you, Rob, who's thought about
these things, you might point out like, yeah, but what about the consumer? What about the producers who use
steel, right? So like, they may buy foreign steel, but then produce things in America and now they get the
cost of their steel. So like, you have to account. But if you had the mindset that protectionism is
good because it protects industry, you would have to admit, Rob, with that mindset that foreign tariffs
are bad, right? Because that's hurting your industry when you try to export it, because now it's
more expensive for other people to consume. And so even if you think that tariffs help us,
but their tariffs hurt us, well, then we just got their tariffs raised. So this also just hurt us.
Anyway, my point is, if you actually look at sound economics, it could maybe be a reasonable idea
to threaten tariffs and then get everyone to lower their tariffs. But Rob, when you just go into our
biggest trading partner to the north and put a bunch of tariffs on and then they raise their
tax that would be the exact opposite that would be both sides just raising their tariffs so what we
literally just accomplished out of all of this was both the canadian government and the american
government working to hurt the canadian economy and the american economy and Donald trump
renaming a lake that's what he accomplished with canada over the last 48 hours and it's just on top of
everything else. It's just like, guys, this is like painfully stupid. It's painfully stupid and real
people will actually suffer as a result of this. So anyways, just at least as of right now,
just the worst result. It could have been in terms of a little mini trade war. I just laughed when
I saw the headline because my takeaway was, why are you stirring up this shit now? You got enough
on your plate. You got enough that's not going well. Why are we poking the Canada problem? Just just let
that sit for a while and solve the other problems first. Why do you want this one on your plate too?
You got to know, you've made enough of a mess out of everything else. And also the fact that he was
doing it the same week while he's putting a pause on his beef tariffs because beef prices were
going up, it didn't really make sense. Apparently, I guess, whatever, when you walk into a grocery
store tomorrow and you look at whatever the price of beef is, I guess in Donald Trump's centralized
economy, that's exactly where he thinks the beef price should be, because now's the time that he's
going to change the tariff because he realizes this is the ideal beef price.
That's what happens with central planning.
He didn't want it any lower because then we could have been importing beef this whole time.
And this is at his discretion because he's perfect in whatever move he makes in any direction.
And so this is Donald Trump saying this is his ideal beef price.
Yep.
No, I mean, look, this is what it all comes down to.
It's all just different forms of price fixing, man.
And it's all the interventionist government policy can ever do is just change the price
something and every time they're changing the price they're changing it away from closer to what the
market you know equilibrium was which is where you maximize efficiency um so you know it's it's
interesting even as you say that um you know you go like why pick another fight right now when you got
all this and it's it is weird like leaders act this way when they're going down dude you know you think
about it i always to me i always thought the craziest part of world war two was that after
Japan attacked America at Pearl Harby, at Pearl Harbor, excuse me.
That was a nicer way to say it.
At all Pearl Harvey, Adolf Hitler declared war on America, which was crazy.
Like, we got attacked by a different country.
And he was already at war.
Like, he was already had his hands full.
Like, it was almost, you know, in hindsight, it was such a self-destructive move.
you know, because then, then FDR declared war.
Excuse me, I'm so sorry.
I got stuck in modern American brain,
and I forgot that we were still somewhat of a constitutional republic.
The Congress declared war as the last declared war.
And they declared war on Hitler,
and the fact that he had declared war enough was another,
you know, like after Pearl Harbor, it was clear,
we're getting into the war,
but it wasn't exactly clear, like certainly,
I think FDR really wanted to get into the war in Europe.
But at least Hitler declaring war on us certainly gave a PR boost to be able to say,
well, hey, we were attacked and then he declared war on us.
So we're in this world war now.
But like it is kind of crazy.
Like one of the things that's kind of fascinating about Adolf Hitler is that there were
several points where he probably could have just chilled.
You know?
Like when he, I mean, okay, he took Poland.
England declares war on him.
But he's got a peace deal with Stalin still.
He's not at war with America still.
You know, like, he's fine.
He could have just held, he takes France.
He could have held from France to Poland and just had it.
Then he invaded the Soviet Union to declares war on America.
You know, like, this is insane.
So it's like, I don't know, like, there is something kind of interesting.
Even as you say, obviously, I'm not saying Trump's Hitler or this isn't the same thing.
But there's like this little mini version of like as you're spiraling, you kind of like,
try to go for it more and more and more and more you get more desperate so you have to make a bigger
move you know you need like um because you're down bigger now you need a bigger shot so you got to take
a bigger risk and things can spiral out of control but yeah it seems like a pretty poor time to just
pick a trade war for no reason all right well we're gonna have to call it a show there guys uh thank
you so much for listening and we'll be back tomorrow with a brand new episode peace
